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Title: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Everton News on November 27, 2017, 09:54:05 PM
Allardyce in Everton talks

Sky Sports News are reporting that Everton are in talks with Sam Allardyce with a view to making him the new manager of the Blues.

Source: Allardyce in Everton talks (https://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2017/11/allardyce-everton-talks/)
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Cereal Killer on November 27, 2017, 09:55:57 PM
Allardyce in Everton talks

Sky Sports News are reporting that Everton are in talks with Sam Allardyce with a view to making him the new manager of the Blues.

Source: Allardyce in Everton talks (https://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2017/11/allardyce-everton-talks/)

 :bonk:
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: blueToffee on November 27, 2017, 09:59:23 PM
The weird thing is, if they're serious then what is the need for talks? More procrastination. Talks happened already. If we're going down this path then just get it done. Why more delays?

The lack of decisiveness is almost worse than the horrendous decision making.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: montanatoffeefan on November 27, 2017, 10:03:08 PM
The weird thing is, if they're serious then what is the need for talks? More procrastination. Talks happened already. If we're going down this path then just get it done. Why more delays?

The lack of decisiveness is almost worse than the horrendous decision making.

If they are really considering hiring Sam Alardyce, then a lack of decisiveness could be our best hope.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 27, 2017, 10:03:40 PM
Fuck this right off.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Cereal Killer on November 27, 2017, 10:05:37 PM
January to be full of 'experienced' signings who've battled against relegation previously

And will also have agents pally with Allardyce  :whistle:
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 27, 2017, 10:11:56 PM
Awful.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 27, 2017, 10:13:26 PM
So I take it we're giving Palace their 2 million back are we?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Alanvideo on November 27, 2017, 10:17:06 PM
Desperate times ,desperate measures.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: montanatoffeefan on November 27, 2017, 10:17:22 PM
January to be full of 'experienced' signings who've battled against relegation previously

He'll have to. Our current roster is devoid of the sort of thugs necessary to implement Big Sam's 'system."
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Thornton_19 on November 27, 2017, 10:18:58 PM
In a bit Everton.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 27, 2017, 10:19:44 PM
The weird thing is, if they're serious then what is the need for talks? More procrastination. Talks happened already. If we're going down this path then just get it done. Why more delays?

The lack of decisiveness is almost worse than the horrendous decision making.
Because now weíre utterly desperate, heíll be dictating the terms. No easy get-out clauses for the club etc.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Alanvideo on November 27, 2017, 10:22:09 PM
 Ex-England manager takes over - another first for Everton  8)
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: nsno on November 27, 2017, 10:24:41 PM
Great bit of news if true. He's really what we need, no nonsense approach, will separate the men from the boys so to speak and get some passion back on the pitch. Just what the club need, hopefully the "tuchel brigade" get behind him, if he's appointed.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lazarou on November 27, 2017, 10:26:11 PM
Great bit of news if true. He's really what we need, no nonsense approach, will separate the men from the boys so to speak and get some passion back on the pitch. Just what the club need, hopefully the "tuchel brigade" get behind him, if he's appointed.

You may be right and the glass may be half full, but ffs!
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Major Clanger on November 27, 2017, 10:26:55 PM
As usual for his clubs, we'll be saved from relegation and will still somehow end up far worse off when he's eventually sacked.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Goaljira on November 27, 2017, 10:33:10 PM
(http://sealedabstract.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/down-with-this-sort-of-thing.jpg)
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: everton1952 on November 27, 2017, 10:42:51 PM
Good, get it done. I hope he empties out 4 or 5 of the dross we are carrying in the process. Gives us time to appoint a better one maybe next season and put this blip  behind us.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Fynci on November 27, 2017, 10:43:27 PM
Does Kevin Nolan still play?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Fynci on November 27, 2017, 10:43:48 PM
Seriously though. If Sam Allardyce is the answer, then we're asking the wrong questions.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Faceatthefence on November 27, 2017, 10:45:50 PM
January to be full of 'experienced' signings who've battled against relegation previously

And will also have agents pally with Allardyce  :whistle:
James collins,Lee cattermole and Peter crouch all on their way lads
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Big Nev on November 27, 2017, 10:47:14 PM
Provided we stop conceding and start scoring again I wouldn't care who it is!!
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: GLewis on November 27, 2017, 10:48:25 PM
Who did Palace buy last Jan?

Sunderland?

Think he got players you wouldnít have thought / heard of.

Plus, if this has been pushed by Walsh theyíre more likely to be, potentially at least, the type of signings that Walsh was supposed to make.

Clouds with silver linings everywhere!
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on November 27, 2017, 10:51:41 PM
He got Schlupp from Leicester. Van Arn Holt from Sunderland and Milevojevic I think.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: GLewis on November 27, 2017, 10:52:24 PM
He got Schlupp from Leicester. Van Arn Holt from Sunderland and Milevojevic I think.

Well we need left sided defenders!
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: chang on November 27, 2017, 10:52:41 PM
At this point in time anyone who can steady the ship ... one thing at a time right now
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 27, 2017, 10:52:52 PM
Well we need left sided defenders!
Your desperate for silver linings!!!!
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Polledreng on November 27, 2017, 10:53:26 PM
Who did Palace buy last Jan?

Sunderland?

Think he got players you wouldnít have thought / heard of.

Plus, if this has been pushed by Walsh theyíre more likely to be, potentially at least, the type of signings that Walsh was supposed to make.

Clouds with silver linings everywhere!
I only see clouds at the moment
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Confucius on November 27, 2017, 10:53:29 PM
Your desperate for silver linings!!!!

Aren't we all?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on November 27, 2017, 10:54:00 PM
Schlupp and Van Arn Holt could be considered then. That would be replacing Baines. Not sure if Palace will let any players go in Jan with the predicament they are in.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Major Clanger on November 27, 2017, 10:59:04 PM
Good, get it done. I hope he empties out 4 or 5 of the dross we are carrying in the process. Gives us time to appoint a better one maybe next season and put this blip  behind us.

You may hope but he never does any of that. He just signs a bunch of journeymen players on big contracts and lets the club deal with the consequences.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on November 27, 2017, 11:04:19 PM
Your desperate for silver linings!!!!


First line I've been desperate for since my early 20s.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: stirlingblue on November 27, 2017, 11:06:54 PM
He got Schlupp from Leicester. Van Arn Holt from Sunderland and Milevojevic I think.

To be fair, we do need a left back and he appears to have signed two this year
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: everton1952 on November 27, 2017, 11:08:02 PM
I predict he will attain God-like status in 2 weeks if the score is Shite 0 - Everton 1. Worth all of 2 million to Palace just for that.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 27, 2017, 11:08:49 PM
Hopefully this is where Steve Walsh earns his corn. If Allardyce wants to come and bring all his band of merry men with him, and sign typical Allardyce players, then you would hope he steps in and reminds him that we now have a club ethos (I don't think we do but I'd like there to be) and we'll sign players that fit that moving forwards.

Alternatively he'll just get a remit to keep us in the league and we'll deal with the rest in the summer.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: GLewis on November 27, 2017, 11:10:19 PM
You may hope but he never does any of that. He just signs a bunch of journeymen players on big contracts and lets the club deal with the consequences.

Ah but this is where the DoF steps in!
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: nsno on November 27, 2017, 11:12:19 PM
In all fairness to Sam's last two jobs, the remit has been premier league survival and he has bought players to achieve that. With us in January it will likely be the same. I can see him getting an 18 month contract at the least, so if we achieve survival the summer will be interesting.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Major Clanger on November 27, 2017, 11:14:57 PM
Ah but this is where the DoF steps in!

You mean the Director of No More Football For You?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 27, 2017, 11:20:13 PM
I predict he will attain God-like status in 2 weeks if the score is Shite 0 - Everton 1. Worth all of 2 million to Palace just for that.
I'd rather stay up tbh
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Cereal Killer on November 27, 2017, 11:20:59 PM
Ah but this is where the DoF steps in!

"Cut me in your usual deals Sam, say 25% and l'll sign off whoever you want"
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ari on November 27, 2017, 11:21:03 PM
He'll have to. Our current roster is devoid of the sort of thugs necessary to implement Big Sam's 'system."
į

Welcome to the big time Ryan Shawcross.......
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 27, 2017, 11:21:05 PM
He'll be an improvement on Unsworth and at this moment in time I'll take that.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ari on November 27, 2017, 11:27:50 PM
Schlupp and Van Arn Holt could be considered then. That would be replacing Baines. Not sure if Palace will let any players go in Jan with the predicament they are in.

We could get Danny Rose in jan.  As  much i do not like him and his attitude, he could do a job for us.  And to give Baines some slack and resting time.  so he could be the player he was.   
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 27, 2017, 11:28:12 PM
just disgusting
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Shropshire Blue on November 27, 2017, 11:28:51 PM
It's interesting to note how opinions are formed on managers.
Allardyce''s history with richer successful clubs doesn't take long to research. He's never been at one! Ironically at the time he left West Ham they were playing some good football and it will be interesting to see how he goes on with our squad because despite the current mess we do have considerable talent and potential in there.
Overall we are quite a spoiled fan base because apart from that extremely close call with relegation some years ago we never have to experience football reality. We've been safely cushioned in one of the best leagues in the world for over half a century and it won't do us any harm to see what football life is really like outside that bubble. There's never serious appreciation  of that being success in itself only a continual whinge that we should be winning things as if we have a God given right.
Welcome to real football life!
Sam Allardyce has built his reputation on making the most of what little he has. On that basis he is a successful manager. Mourinho had f**k all idea how to rebuild Chelsea second time around - what does that say about him?
If SA becomes our manager we know it's to do a specific job and probably not for very long. More people need to appreciate where we are and now and concentrate on stabilising things and then reflect on what went wrong and how we avoid that in the future. During that period we get behind our manager.
One potential interesting debate (once things are sorted) will be around putting the Kenwright era and Moyes time here in context. A lot of people wanted them out and that is obviously happening and we are seeing a new era. Perhaps all this is just a transition to a new world with a new ground and an even more successful future. Or perhaps what we are seeing now is the new world?
Who was it said 'We live in interesting times'?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 27, 2017, 11:31:13 PM
He'll be an improvement on Unsworth and at this moment in time I'll take that.
Although he was in charge for far too long, the silver lining of the Unsworth reign is that it dispelled the naive idea that anyone could just come in and Ďget them to show a bit of passioní and the results would follow.

We need someone experienced and with an actual survival strategy and weíve got him. Our chances of beating West Ham and Huddersfield have vastly improved.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MmmblueBernard on November 27, 2017, 11:33:27 PM
Checks date on thread, sees its recent, kills self.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Craig_1878 on November 27, 2017, 11:33:47 PM
Not the most exciting appointment but he will sure up the defence which we are desperate for atm and weedle out the shithouses, and maybe Benteke will be tempted to link up with him again after his time at Palace? I dont know, its all a bit embarrassing at this stage but there are positives (we hope).
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Cereal Killer on November 27, 2017, 11:34:37 PM
We could get Danny Rose in jan.  As  much i do not like him and his attitude, he could do a job for us.  And to give Baines some slack and resting time.  so he could be the player he was.

 lolol  because he doesn't want to go to United?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on November 27, 2017, 11:37:26 PM
Hobsons
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 27, 2017, 11:38:13 PM
would be the darkest day of our history (at least in my lifetime), I can't and won't support it.  Period, full stop.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: dazfrancis on November 27, 2017, 11:41:03 PM
4 weeks ago I was vehemently against this, now I'm just desperate for us to stop getting battered.

How depressing
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ari on November 27, 2017, 11:41:17 PM
lolol  because he doesn't want to go to United?

I have not seen that... thanks for correcting me :)
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 27, 2017, 11:41:50 PM
would be the darkest day of our history (at least in my lifetime), I can't and won't support it.  Period, full stop.

Bit dramatic.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: GLewis on November 27, 2017, 11:45:46 PM
Hobsons

Already at Palace mate.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 27, 2017, 11:47:24 PM
Bit dramatic.

I don't think so.  We're poisoning our club, in more ways than one.  Will take 3-5 years to recover, if we recover.  All because we couldn't "think bigger" on a search list outside of Marco Silva.  That's unforgivably poor management.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 27, 2017, 11:50:54 PM
I did kind of think I would only take him if we were in a real crisis. Itís starting to look that way now. We are scrapping for our lives

I imagine if he comes in now and we beat West Ham and Huddersfield and donít get beat in the Derby then most will have at least warmed to him. Even that seems a big ask at the moment
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on November 27, 2017, 11:56:29 PM
I don't think so.  We're poisoning our club, in more ways than one.  Will take 3-5 years to recover, if we recover.  All because we couldn't "think bigger" on a search list outside of Marco Silva.  That's unforgivably poor management.
I know what your'e saying mate but we might never recover at all if we go down.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Paddockoldie on November 28, 2017, 12:00:25 AM
would be the darkest day of our history (at least in my lifetime), I can't and won't support it.  Period, full stop.

I don't like the idea myself but getting relegated would be much worse fella.. you know that already but I share your pain
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 28, 2017, 12:02:24 AM
would be the darkest day of our history (at least in my lifetime), I can't and won't support it.  Period, full stop.

Certainly didn't mean to like that, far from it. So you won't support us anymore because you don't like our choice of manager ? Fine, find yourself another team, it is what it is and we all need to get behind the team, the manager, the club.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: bluenuck on November 28, 2017, 12:04:51 AM
I don't think so.  We're poisoning our club, in more ways than one.  Will take 3-5 years to recover, if we recover.  All because we couldn't "think bigger" on a search list outside of Marco Silva.  That's unforgivably poor management.

But according to reports that some said were magically leaked my Moshiri to Jim White, we were after Simeone....

That's thinking bigger than Silva.

I think we all have to realize that Some managers looked at this job and realized it was managerial suicide and didn't want it. Or why would they want it when they're perfectly comfortable coaching good teams?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: penguinofdoom1878 on November 28, 2017, 12:07:42 AM
we dont need big boned Sam now or ever, we can get out of this mess without him
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 28, 2017, 12:10:06 AM
Has anyone considered this is just Sky generating clicks on a slow news day?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 28, 2017, 12:10:25 AM
we dont need big boned Sam now or ever, we can get out of this mess without him

Didn't look like that to me last Thursday or on Sunday , so how exactly do you think we get out of this mess before it's too late ?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: TheRam on November 28, 2017, 12:11:06 AM
Fuck Steve Walsh the fucking gremlin.

Fuck Moshiri as well.

It's going to take a lot for me to ever take him seriously again.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on November 28, 2017, 12:20:18 AM
https://twitter.com/grandoldteam/status/935181330580738048
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 28, 2017, 12:35:20 AM
Just don't understand the fume ! It is what it fucking is because we are totally in the shite with not a shred of hope for survival in the Prem if things don't change fast ! Allardyce would not be anybody's first choice but it seems that he may be our only viable choice, FFS let's steady the ship first before we get all delusional again about attracting managers of the ilk of Simeon's, Ancelloti, Silva etc. If, and it is not certain that he will join but if he does and is introduced on Wednesday night I hope to God we don't have any fuckwits in the crowd that would boo him, that would be as bad as those knuckle dragging retards that booed Williams during his warm up on Sunday. Get behind the team, the manager the Club ffs.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: BlueBeagle on November 28, 2017, 12:42:51 AM
Not even particularly arsed about it being Allerdyce anymore, I'm passed the point of giving a fuck, but it's entertaining watching people lose their minds
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Shropshire Blue on November 28, 2017, 12:43:41 AM
Fuck Steve Walsh the fucking gremlin.

Fuck Moshiri as well.

It's going to take a lot for me to ever take him seriously again.
His money?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 28, 2017, 12:45:41 AM
Just don't understand the fume ! It is what it fucking is because we are totally in the shite with not a shred of hope for survival in the Prem if things don't change fast ! Allardyce would not be anybody's first choice but it seems that he may be our only viable choice, FFS let's steady the ship first before we get all delusional again about attracting managers of the ilk of Simeon's, Ancelloti, Silva etc. If, and it is not certain that he will join but if he does and is introduced on Wednesday night I hope to God we don't have any fuckwits in the crowd that would boo him, that would be as bad as those knuckle dragging retards that booed Williams during his warm up on Sunday. Get behind the team, the manager the Club ffs.

Maybe the fume is because not everyone agrees with your belief that there is currently "not a shred of hope for survival" unless we get Allardyce?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on November 28, 2017, 12:46:36 AM
Imagine being the players when Allardyce and Sammy Lee come waddling in to training for the first time.

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: cantoffee on November 28, 2017, 12:48:16 AM
Looking forward to bringing in Chris Samba on a 4 year 100k a week deal.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 28, 2017, 12:48:47 AM
Maybe the fume is because not everyone agrees with your belief that there is currently "not a shred of hope for survival" unless we get Allardyce?

Don't recall saying "not a shred of hope for survival unless we get Allardyce" ? Think you might be confusing this with my saying "unless things change fast"
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 28, 2017, 12:50:30 AM
Imagine being the players when Allardyce and Sammy Lee come waddling in to training for the first time.

Isn't going to happen though is it, do you honestly think anyone at Everton would approve of the appointment of Sammy Lee !
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Waltzer on November 28, 2017, 12:52:52 AM
Maybe the fume is because not everyone agrees with your belief that there is currently "not a shred of hope for survival" unless we get Allardyce?
I agree, although I don't think people we want are available. I suspect the hope would've been that Unworth showed enough to give confidence that he could do it until the summer, the reality is he's been woeful so their hand was forced. Its not ideal, but we needed to replace Unworth and fast
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on November 28, 2017, 12:53:53 AM
Isn't going to happen though is it, do you honestly think anyone at Everton would approve of the appointment of Sammy Lee !

Yes.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Waltzer on November 28, 2017, 12:54:38 AM
Isn't going to happen though is it, do you honestly think anyone at Everton would approve of the appointment of Sammy Lee !
It'll be Craig Shakespeare. Walsh is surrounding himself with his people to keep himself In a job
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 28, 2017, 12:55:42 AM
Don't recall saying "not a shred of hope for survival unless we get Allardyce" ? Think you might be confusing this with my saying "unless things change fast"

I was paraphrasing, but your post seemed to be saying that you are confused by the fume, so I offered you an explanation. You did seem to be suggesting that Sam is the only viable option (as anyone better would be delusion?) and that we have to act now, which to me implied that you think we have to get Sam or else we are going down, and therefore the fume is foolish. Perhaps you could clarify what you actually meant if that was not it?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 28, 2017, 12:57:13 AM
Finding it quite bizzare that people all of sudden reckon we'll be fine because of Allardyce, his record at Palace and Sunderland was shocking
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: fubarruk on November 28, 2017, 12:57:23 AM
Said it before, bring that corrupt, disgraced ex England manager into our club and we've effectively sold out and hit rock bottom.

Him and Redknapp have both been caught out trying to 'bypass' transfer laws, both having lined their pockets doing it, I swear people in football have the shortest memories on the planet... 
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on November 28, 2017, 12:58:19 AM
I've heard Aldo is going to be head of fitness.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 28, 2017, 12:58:31 AM
I agree, although I don't think people we want are available. I suspect the hope would've been that Unworth showed enough to give confidence that he could do it until the summer, the reality is he's been woeful so their hand was forced. Its not ideal, but we needed to replace Unworth and fast

I agree, but Sam is not the way for me. If we really are in a state of 'survival specialist required' (which I don't think we are personally) then Pulis would be a better option. Also terrible football, not going to take us to the heights, play the averages with set pieces etc, but far less of a toe rag. Just to be clear, I do not want Pulis, just think he would be the lesser of two evils.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Heisenberg on November 28, 2017, 01:00:48 AM
Pathetic appointment. Everything about it just reeks of shit housery.

- We just point out refuse to look abroad for anything. Managers and players. Which has proven an absolute expensive shambles since Moyes left.

- Allarydyce although hasn't taken clubs down, he leaves them in terrible positions.

- Assembles dross players meaning its a complete rebuilding task when he leaves.

- Will never ever push us on.

- Negative horrible football.

- Won fuck all. Isn't a winner.

We dont know what we are doing
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Juanito on November 28, 2017, 01:01:52 AM
Went from 6/4 to 1/5. Itís happening but anything is better than Unsworth and Ebrell.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Juanito on November 28, 2017, 01:02:57 AM
Went from 6/4 to 1/5. Itís happening but anything is better than Unsworth and Ebrell. If we waited any longer Mick Madar would have been recruited as a striker coach.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 28, 2017, 01:08:17 AM
Went from 6/4 to 1/5. Itís happening but anything is better than Unsworth and Ebrell.

It reached that a couple of weeks ago, and has since been back out beyond 15/1. Those odds have most likely been created by a load of bets being place on him today when at higher odds after Sky Sports sent a tweet.

Do Sky also own a betting company by any chance? :whistle:
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: bluenuck on November 28, 2017, 01:13:25 AM
It reached that a couple of weeks ago, and has since been back out beyond 15/1. Those odds have most likely been created by a load of bets being place on him today when at higher odds after Sky Sports sent a tweet.

Do Sky also own a betting company by any chance? :whistle:

Now there's corrupt.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: bluestevie on November 28, 2017, 01:17:05 AM
Smacks so fucking much of Walsh and Kenwright getting their way, nothings ever gonna change until the so called greatest Evertonian and his band of merry men have well and truly fucked off from the club
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: eugene on November 28, 2017, 01:17:57 AM
would be the darkest day of our history (at least in my lifetime), I can't and won't support it.  Period, full stop.
Think you need a little cuddle my Yankee chum x
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: blargins on November 28, 2017, 01:18:51 AM
If he gets it, at least no one will have a problem with people going "ffs Allerdyce" in the match day threads and we'll all be united in hating him.

Until he wins the title with us next season because no one expects him to do anything other than save us from relegation.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: penguinofdoom1878 on November 28, 2017, 01:19:01 AM
Didn't look like that to me last Thursday or on Sunday , so how exactly do you think we get out of this mess before it's too late ?

If I knew myself then I would be a football manager in real life, not an admin manager within the welsh government.

But at no point have I thought I know we need Sam Allardyce, with his 39.4% win ratio and his 18 wins from his last 55 games as a Premier League manager.

I can not believe for 1 second he is the ONLY option in the entire world. We are not at Simeone/Tuchel levels but we are not at Sam Allardyce levels either. Bringing him in wont guarantee safety.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 28, 2017, 01:19:52 AM
I was paraphrasing, but your post seemed to be saying that you are confused by the fume, so I offered you an explanation. You did seem to be suggesting that Sam is the only viable option (as anyone better would be delusion?) and that we have to act now, which to me implied that you think we have to get Sam or else we are going down, and therefore the fume is foolish. Perhaps you could clarify what you actually meant if that was not it?

My post requires no clarification, it is intended as it reads, if you choose to make assumptions about what I "seem" to be suggesting that's fine, thanks for coming but you are way off the mark. You say for example that I was "confused" about the fume, wrong, I simply don't understand it, big difference, what you "think I seem to be suggesting" what qualifies you to make such assumptions ?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: TheRam on November 28, 2017, 01:20:31 AM
With the squad at his disposal and the budget he's going to be given he should be getting this team top half at the very least.

Let's not think he's done a good job because we don't go down. Let's try and keep some standards aye
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Mayor Farnum on November 28, 2017, 01:22:16 AM
would be the darkest day of our history (at least in my lifetime), I can't and won't support it.  Period, full stop.

Drama Queen. Exclamation mark!
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: AllyBlue14 on November 28, 2017, 01:27:08 AM
My post requires no clarification, it is intended as it reads, if you choose to make assumptions about what I "seem" to be suggesting that's fine, thanks for coming but you are way off the mark. You say for example that I was "confused" about the fume, wrong, I simply don't understand it, big difference, what you "think I seem to be suggesting" what qualifies you to make such assumptions ?

Leave it mate, he wilfully misinterpreted something I said about Koeman a couple of months back. And when I tried to clarify myself, he misinterpreted that too. I think what you were saying was pretty clear.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: everton1952 on November 28, 2017, 01:32:04 AM
we dont need big boned Sam now or ever, we can get out of this mess without him
Oh, Have you transmitted your alternative to the board?  Name your alternative.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 28, 2017, 01:32:25 AM
My post requires no clarification, it is intended as it reads, if you choose to make assumptions about what I "seem" to be suggesting that's fine, thanks for coming but you are way off the mark. You say for example that I was "confused" about the fume, wrong, I simply don't understand it, big difference, what you "think I seem to be suggesting" what qualifies you to make such assumptions ?

I was just asking as it seemed I had misunderstood what you meant. If you don't want to explain, that's fine. Maybe I've misunderstood the purpose of posting on a forum too.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 28, 2017, 01:34:24 AM
Leave it mate, he wilfully misinterpreted something I said about Koeman a couple of months back. And when I tried to clarify myself, he misinterpreted that too. I think what you were saying was pretty clear.

What exactly is wilful about misinterpreting? If I've misunderstood, let me know. If you can't, then it's not really my issue at all, is it?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: AllyBlue14 on November 28, 2017, 01:34:57 AM
All this talk of 18 wins out of 55 and shit football - he was managing Palace and Sunderland, who were possibly one of the worst sides in PL history. The fact he kept them up is more of an achievement than Guardiola winning the league this season with City, such is the disparity in quality.

Allardyce is by no means a guarantee of survival, but he's proven he can turn teams around. It's not the most fashionable option (I'd prefer Dyche, having realised that Tuchel or anyone else of note wouldn't touch us with a barge pole) but if he comes here, we get behind him.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Paddockoldie on November 28, 2017, 01:38:36 AM
Allardyce is a calculated gamble because of his experience but there are no guarantees. Bringing somone outside of the prem is a bigger gamble and it's a rock and a hard place scenario. We're not that great a catch but more of a reputation wrecker for any good manager. That's just reality for me. It will change for the better but as I've said before our expectation is our biggest weakness.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: ally2 on November 28, 2017, 01:38:45 AM
Pathetic appointment. Everything about it just reeks of shit housery.

- We just point out refuse to look abroad for anything. Managers and players. Which has proven an absolute expensive shambles since Moyes left.

- Allarydyce although hasn't taken clubs down, he leaves them in terrible positions.

- Assembles dross players meaning its a complete rebuilding task when he leaves.

- Will never ever push us on.

- Negative horrible football.

- Won fuck all. Isn't a winner.

We dont know what we are doing

You do realise he hasn't actually been appointed yet right?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 28, 2017, 01:40:26 AM
Ha. Pep Allardyce.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: AllyBlue14 on November 28, 2017, 01:40:39 AM
What exactly is wilful about misinterpreting? If I've misunderstood, let me know. If you can't, then it's not really my issue at all, is it?

I did let you know, about 5 times, and you continued to misunderstand/take me to task. Given that it's happened again here, I'd say you're either doing it on purpose or you're stupid. Both of which make it your issue.

Anyway, that's it. This is off-topic and annoying for people wanting to share their visions of our successful future under Big Sam.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 28, 2017, 01:51:36 AM
I did let you know, about 5 times, and you continued to misunderstand/take me to task. Given that it's happened again here, I'd say you're either doing it on purpose or you're stupid. Both of which make it your issue.

Anyway, that's it. This is off-topic and annoying for people wanting to share their visions of our successful future under Big Sam.

OK, if insulting is easier then I guess you can just have control of the thread.  :bonk:
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Optimistic Blue on November 28, 2017, 01:53:51 AM
When Spurs hired Harry Redknapp after a career of battling with skint teams fighting relegation he was able to take his shot at the big time and took them to the champions league and built the foundations for the team they are today.

The same will happen with us and Fat Sam.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: AllyBlue14 on November 28, 2017, 01:54:28 AM
OK, if insulting is easier then I guess you can just have control of the thread.  :bonk:

Thanks dipshit 😉
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: TheRam on November 28, 2017, 01:55:22 AM
All this talk of 18 wins out of 55 and shit football - he was managing Palace and Sunderland, who were possibly one of the worst sides in PL history. The fact he kept them up is more of an achievement than Guardiola winning the league this season with City, such is the disparity in quality.

Allardyce is by no means a guarantee of survival, but he's proven he can turn teams around. It's not the most fashionable option (I'd prefer Dyche, having realised that Tuchel or anyone else of note wouldn't touch us with a barge pole) but if he comes here, we get behind him.

What an absolutely ludicrous comparison.

He kept palace up with players like benteke, Zaha and Sakho.

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Cozzie on November 28, 2017, 01:58:57 AM
When Spurs hired Harry Redknapp after a career of battling with skint teams fighting relegation he was able to take his shot at the big time and took them to the champions league and built the foundations for the team they are today.

The same will happen with us and Fat Sam.

And thats why you are named Optimistic Blue!

In all fairness I have never been more petrified of going down so unfortunately, even though he isn't who I want I do feel he is what we NEED, as much as it pains me to say that.

Surely he has to do better than the way things are now.

We might actually have a chance at Anfield now too.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 28, 2017, 02:00:09 AM
Hated at Newcastle
Hated at West Ham
Hated at Palace

Recurring pattern there like
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 28, 2017, 02:00:41 AM
And thats why you are named Optimistic Blue!

In all fairness I have never been more petrified of going down so unfortunately, even though he isn't who I want I do feel he is what we NEED, as much as it pains me to say that.

Surely he has to do better than the way things are now.

We might actually have a chance at Anfield now too.

Steady on
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Waltzer on November 28, 2017, 02:00:48 AM
When Spurs hired Harry Redknapp after a career of battling with skint teams fighting relegation he was able to take his shot at the big time and took them to the champions league and built the foundations for the team they are today.

The same will happen with us and Fat Sam.
Like your optimism. I think he'll do a decent job and definitely move us up the table but I don't think he'll be afforded the time to have a lasting impact due to his style of play.  Harry was an expansive manager which gives you more time.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 28, 2017, 02:01:58 AM
When Spurs hired Harry Redknapp after a career of battling with skint teams fighting relegation he was able to take his shot at the big time and took them to the champions league and built the foundations for the team they are today.

The same will happen with us and Fat Sam.

Are we getting Bale in January?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: GLewis on November 28, 2017, 02:02:08 AM
Hated at Newcastle
Hated at West Ham
Hated at Palace

Recurring pattern there like

Delusional fan bases? ;)
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: GLewis on November 28, 2017, 02:03:06 AM
In fairness heís got massive self belief and given how heís always moaned about not getting a top job, then heíll really want to do well here to prove a point.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 28, 2017, 02:04:10 AM
What an absolutely ludicrous comparison.

He kept palace up with players like benteke, Zaha and Sakho.

Careful mate. Only positive daydreams of Allardyce are allowed in this thread.  ;D
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: AllyBlue14 on November 28, 2017, 02:04:43 AM
What an absolutely ludicrous comparison.

He kept palace up with players like benteke, Zaha and Sakho.



Brought Sakho in himself, who turned out great for them (just for those saying he'll fetch in Nolan et al). They were still woefully out of form and he got them into a competitive unit.

My comment was about Sunderland - objectively, keeping them up was a great effort. They were dead and gone around the time we beat them 6-2.

I'm by no means enthusiastic about the prospect of Allardyce being our manager and can't quite believe how far we've fallen so quickly. At this point, I'm just glad it isn't O'Neill.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Waltzer on November 28, 2017, 02:05:48 AM
In fairness he's got massive self belief and given how he's always moaned about not getting a top job, then he'll really want to do well here to prove a point.
I thought he'd been appointed somewhere else then when you said he got a top job.....
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Optimistic Blue on November 28, 2017, 02:08:23 AM
Are we getting Bale in January?

Gareth Bale was utter shit before Harry Redknapp came in.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MmmblueBernard on November 28, 2017, 02:10:15 AM
Hated at Newcastle
Hated at West Ham
Hated at Palace

Recurring pattern there like

Says more bout Bolton tbh.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Mayor Farnum on November 28, 2017, 02:11:27 AM
Hated at Newcastle
Hated at West Ham
Hated at Palace

Recurring pattern there like

So we respect the opinion of those fans now do we?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: AllyBlue14 on November 28, 2017, 02:12:02 AM
Careful mate. Only positive daydreams of Allardyce are allowed in this thread.  ;D
So you are doing it on purpose! 👍
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Mayor Farnum on November 28, 2017, 02:13:38 AM
He has an unshakable self-belief and doesn't suffer fools. Just what this squad needs.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: AllyBlue14 on November 28, 2017, 02:14:35 AM
With the exception of Newcastle,  perhaps, which annoyingly is his biggest appointment, are there any jobs where he has genuinely not met the targets he was set?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: eugene on November 28, 2017, 02:15:01 AM
He has an unshakable self-belief and doesn't suffer fools. Just what this squad needs.
And he really does hate the shite!
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Risky on November 28, 2017, 02:18:40 AM
He has an unshakable self-belief and doesn't suffer fools. Just what this squad needs.

This squad needs someone who can galvanise it - not someone who can come in and alienate players.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Mayor Farnum on November 28, 2017, 02:18:47 AM
Delusional fan bases? ;)

West Ham fans hated him from the day he said something about The Academy being a myth and it had never won them anything anyway.

He is a straight talker and that never sits well with football fans.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Mayor Farnum on November 28, 2017, 02:20:34 AM
This squad needs someone who can galvanise it - not someone who can come in and alienate players.

I don't think that will be a problem. He is close to his players and they are very loyal to him.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Major Clanger on November 28, 2017, 02:22:28 AM
He has an unshakable self-belief and doesn't suffer fools. Just what this squad needs.

We could just re-hire Koeman if that's what we need.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on November 28, 2017, 02:23:47 AM
wonder if he rated Paul Bracewell , was assistant manager left in june-  could bring him in
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Cereal Killer on November 28, 2017, 02:27:25 AM
(https://y.yarn.co/5a06e639-c173-4671-a1ca-7e2f864150a3_screenshot.jpg)
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on November 28, 2017, 02:27:53 AM
He didn't play the 'West Ham way', wherever the fuck that is.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: terrydarracotsbaldpate on November 28, 2017, 02:29:31 AM
Oh shi#. I understand he organises defences. However I thought our back 4 includes a captain of Wales a 30 million purchase and 2 30 plus defenders with over 620 appearance so go figure that!!
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: GLewis on November 28, 2017, 02:30:39 AM
We could just re-hire Koeman if that's what we need.

Would say that heís very specific about the plans that he wants his teams to carry out so Iíd guess that heís much more coaching orientated than Koeman was.

Also it looks like some / lots of the squad need more permanent direction. Could be crucial point re the length of the deal and how they respond.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: kramer0 on November 28, 2017, 02:35:13 AM
As much as I expect it all to end in mid-table mediocrity, it would be hilarious if the Allardyce/Walsh ďdream teamĒ absolutely smashed it.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: GoodisonPk on November 28, 2017, 02:35:38 AM
If it's him it's him. So be it. No time to waste. Get in there fire them up and straight up 3 points against west ham will get us back on track.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Alanvideo on November 28, 2017, 02:38:31 AM
When Spurs hired Harry Redknapp after a career of battling with skint teams fighting relegation he was able to take his shot at the big time and took them to the champions league and built the foundations for the team they are today.

The same will happen with us and Fat Sam.
..............can people stop calling him Fat Sam ? if he was gay would you call him Gay Sam ,if he was black would you call him Black Sam ? We don't tolerate racist or sexist insults on here but apparently it's ok to disrespect someone for their weight. He's a big lad but there are quite a few big lads on here, self included.
In fact Dave Unsworth is probably bigger than Sam and 20 years younger . I don't hear anyone calling him Fat Dave .




Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: sirblue57 on November 28, 2017, 02:39:48 AM
Ok. Shittycorrupt Sam....bettet?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on November 28, 2017, 02:43:02 AM
Festively plump Sam

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Goaljira on November 28, 2017, 02:44:14 AM
..............can people stop calling him Fat Sam ? if he was gay would you call him Gay Sam ,if he was black would you call him Black Sam ? We don't tolerate racist or sexist insults on here but apparently it's ok to disrespect someone for their weight. He's a big lad but there are quite a few big lads on here, self included.
In fact Dave Unsworth is probably bigger than Sam and 20 years younger . I don't hear anyone calling him Fat Dave .

(https://i.imgflip.com/2036np.jpg)
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Brownie on November 28, 2017, 02:49:34 AM
..............can people stop calling him Fat Sam ? if he was gay would you call him Gay Sam ,if he was black would you call him Black Sam ? We don't tolerate racist or sexist insults on here but apparently it's ok to disrespect someone for their weight. He's a big lad but there are quite a few big lads on here, self included.
In fact Dave Unsworth is probably bigger than Sam and 20 years younger . I don't hear anyone calling him Fat Dave .






TBH with you I'm packing more weight these days and I refer to myself as fat all the time, as do my mates. it's not a problem.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: blue slug on November 28, 2017, 02:50:08 AM
..............can people stop calling him Fat Sam ? if he was gay would you call him Gay Sam ,if he was black would you call him Black Sam ? We don't tolerate racist or sexist insults on here but apparently it's ok to disrespect someone for their weight. He's a big lad but there are quite a few big lads on here, self included.
In fact Dave Unsworth is probably bigger than Sam and 20 years younger . I don't hear anyone calling him Fat Dave .






Fair point that matey
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: bigac on November 28, 2017, 02:53:40 AM
All just a bad dream. We'll wake up tomorrow morning and everything will be alright.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Confucius on November 28, 2017, 02:58:05 AM
All just a bad dream. We'll wake up tomorrow morning and everything will be alright.

Might not want to wake up at all if it's all true
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Alanvideo on November 28, 2017, 02:59:29 AM
TBH with you I'm packing more weight these days and I refer to myself as fat all the time, as do my mates. it's not a problem.
.............yes me too. It's one thing having a laugh with your mates but it's a bit much when people start throwing pies at you in the street.  lolol
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 28, 2017, 03:03:06 AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/everton-now-willing-hand-sam-11598446.amp
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 28, 2017, 03:04:48 AM
Gareth Bale was utter shit before Harry Redknapp came in.

 :o

I was only joking mate, but are you seriously suggesting that Redknapp made Bale what he is?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 28, 2017, 03:05:40 AM
So you are doing it on purpose! 👍

Taking the piss? I am now, since you've tried to ban discussion.  :hail:
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 28, 2017, 03:06:14 AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/everton-now-willing-hand-sam-11598446.amp
Cheeky cunt
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Brownie on November 28, 2017, 03:07:02 AM
A long term deal!!! FFS.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: D15TIN on November 28, 2017, 03:07:05 AM
Talk on twitter of Ferguson being sacked
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 28, 2017, 03:08:33 AM
Talk on twitter of Ferguson being sacked
Darren?
Where is he nowadays?

Holy shit, wait do you mean fergie from the black eyed peas??

Fewming
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Major Clanger on November 28, 2017, 03:09:58 AM
:o

I was only joking mate, but are you seriously suggesting that Redknapp made Bale what he is?

Having been moved from the defensive line to midfield is what made him.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Tony Clifton on November 28, 2017, 03:13:17 AM
Iím warming to the idea of The Big Sam*

*#thankyoukoeman
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 28, 2017, 03:16:30 AM
Having been moved from the defensive line to midfield is what made him.

I always thought it was his pace and his ability on the ball that made him? Granted being played in midfield helped give him more license to roam, but again was that some genius observation where only Redknapp could realise that if you give you best player freedom to roam and do his thing, you'll win more? Do we have to credit Brenda for making Suarez too?  :(
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: mikey_blue on November 28, 2017, 03:17:45 AM
..............can people stop calling him Fat Sam ? if he was gay would you call him Gay Sam ,if he was black would you call him Black Sam ? We don't tolerate racist or sexist insults on here but apparently it's ok to disrespect someone for their weight. He's a big lad but there are quite a few big lads on here, self included.
In fact Dave Unsworth is probably bigger than Sam and 20 years younger . I don't hear anyone calling him Fat Dave .

Would you mind not saying "Him"? It's really unfair to assume gender.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Major Clanger on November 28, 2017, 03:18:08 AM
I always thought it was his pace and his ability on the ball that made him? Granted being played in midfield helped give him more license to roam, but again was that some genius observation where only Redknapp could realise that if you give you best player freedom to roam and do his thing, you'll win more? Do we have to credit Brenda for making Suarez too?  :(

All I'm saying is that he looked utter dogshit as a fullback.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 28, 2017, 03:23:00 AM
Dunc and Jeffers relieved of their duties apparently
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 28, 2017, 03:24:13 AM
All I'm saying is that he looked utter dogshit as a fullback.

His free kicks were still pretty damn good.

That run of games without Spurs winning when he started was a fairly big millstone though.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 28, 2017, 03:24:38 AM
Dunc and Jeffers relieved of their duties apparently
They did fuck all anyways
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Heisenberg on November 28, 2017, 03:24:40 AM
The best thing about this is that we had to 'reopen talks'. Because we never bothered at first because we knew he wasn't good enough. and then we've gone crawling back. They havent got a clue
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Alanvideo on November 28, 2017, 03:25:33 AM
Dunc and Jeffers relieved of their duties apparently
.............night of the long knives  nod
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: TheRam on November 28, 2017, 03:26:01 AM
Time to get rid of the bloos
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Brownie on November 28, 2017, 03:26:17 AM
Unsworth apparently at the U23 game tonight
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 28, 2017, 03:26:31 AM
https://twitter.com/sammatterface/status/935256424824950784
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 28, 2017, 03:26:35 AM
If we are willing to accept this appointment is it under the idea that he steadies the ship, gets us a mid table finish and then we replace him in the summer?

Heís not the most likeable guy, but I think he doesnít like the general view of him that he plays dinousaur football and has no style. He will point to how he has always embraced sports science and technology and of course how he managed to turn Bolton into a club who qualified for Europe after being perennial relegation candidates

He will feel like heís got a point to prove and that this is a much bigger job than he had at West Ham, Sunderland, Blackburn, Palace etc

I think his ego tells him that he can turn us from a relegation threatened side into a top 6 candidate

Iím seeing this as a hopefully short term fix before a permanent more exciting appointment in the summer
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 28, 2017, 03:27:16 AM
Dunc and Jeffers relieved of their duties apparently

What!? Why?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Silas on November 28, 2017, 03:28:00 AM
I hate this so much mainly because if he comes in i am obliged by my very nature to back the cunt
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: bluenuck on November 28, 2017, 03:28:23 AM
Festively plump Sam

cholesterol face takes the cake for me.

Fuck me, @TheRam (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1602) , that was hilarious.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: TheRam on November 28, 2017, 03:29:35 AM
cholesterol face takes the cake for me.

Fuck me, @TheRam (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1602) , that was hilarious.

Hahaha

Unashamedly robbed off Twitter when someone used it to describe Alan Brazil.

Great init.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Alanvideo on November 28, 2017, 03:30:09 AM
What!? Why?
.............nobody knows what Dunc does anyway and Jeffers is a recent addition. I wouldn't like to be the one who gives Dunc his P45 like.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 28, 2017, 03:31:02 AM
He's big Sam.
Not cos he's fat, or tall.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: D15TIN on November 28, 2017, 03:31:07 AM
Sam Matterface just tweeted Allardyce almost done, Unsworth back with u23s and Ferguson future unclear
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 28, 2017, 03:31:40 AM
Might not want to wake up at all if it's all true

You of all people should be careful what you wish for !
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: D15TIN on November 28, 2017, 03:39:20 AM
Peter Reids part of the backroom staff apparently
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: BlueBeagle on November 28, 2017, 03:42:28 AM
Gay Sam or Black Sam ffs lolol lolol
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 28, 2017, 03:43:23 AM
What!? Why?

Cause there awful
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Confucius on November 28, 2017, 03:44:45 AM
You of all people should be careful what you wish for !

If it's my time it's my time. My family are looked after and the insurance money will make sure all my kids go to university free and my wife can live her life dating playboys or pining for me. Whatever works for her I don't mind.

Death doesn't scare me.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 28, 2017, 03:45:41 AM
Peter Reids part of the backroom staff apparently

IF true, great news ! If though ?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 28, 2017, 03:49:53 AM
If it's my time it's my time. My family are looked after and the insurance money will make sure all my kids go to university free and my wife can live her life dating playboys or pining for me. Whatever works for her I don't mind.

Death doesn't scare me.

Yes that's all fine that your family are taken care of and that death doesn't scare you but to say you may not want to wake up if it's true ? We are talking about a football thing here, not that you have been given a terminal diagnosis, I would suggest a little bit of context/perspective here, Spare a thought for how your
family may feel if you don't wake up.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 28, 2017, 03:55:16 AM
https://twitter.com/BenTaylor1_/status/935226230244368384
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: montanatoffeefan on November 28, 2017, 04:07:03 AM
.............night of the long knives  nod

...and short brains.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: pjk on November 28, 2017, 04:07:48 AM
Has Big Sam ever had a big budget to go into the transfer market with? I'm not sure he's such a bad choice if he has proper backing. We'll soon see, I suppose. That's if the rumours are correct like.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: D15TIN on November 28, 2017, 04:08:08 AM
Apologies its paul bracewell, not peter reid, Mike Hooper as GK coach, Shakespeare assistant
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Brownie on November 28, 2017, 04:13:29 AM
Apologies its paul bracewell, not peter reid, Mike Hooper as GK coach, Shakespeare assistant

Mike Hooper. There's a blast from the past
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: blueski on November 28, 2017, 04:14:22 AM
is this for real? I feel nauseous
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 28, 2017, 04:17:03 AM
My Kopite mates are gutted about this

They reckon we will now stay up

And will get a point in the derby


Would take that after the debarcle of this season
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Confucius on November 28, 2017, 04:18:44 AM
Yes that's all fine that your family are taken care of and that death doesn't scare you but to say you may not want to wake up if it's true ? We are talking about a football thing here, not that you have been given a terminal diagnosis, I would suggest a little bit of context/perspective here, Spare a thought for how your
family may feel if you don't wake up.

hyperbole
[hahy-pur-buh-lee]
noun Rhetoric.
obvious and intentional exaggeration.

an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally, as ďto wait an eternity.Ē
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: toshyboy on November 28, 2017, 04:20:13 AM
Apologies its paul bracewell, not peter reid, Mike Hooper as GK coach, Shakespeare assistant

Think the GK coach will be martyn margeston
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: ally2 on November 28, 2017, 04:30:58 AM
I want Allardyce.

Did I just say that?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Heisenberg on November 28, 2017, 04:34:43 AM
My Kopite mates are gutted about this

They reckon we will now stay up

And will get a point in the derby


Would take that after the debarcle of this season

My Kopite mates are absolutely loving it. We are a joke right now
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: BlueBeagle on November 28, 2017, 04:35:27 AM
He's actually won away at Anfield before
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 28, 2017, 04:42:22 AM
He's actually won away at Anfield before
So did Walter Smith
Let's bring him back
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: D3blue on November 28, 2017, 04:43:43 AM

Sam will get the job done...I'll go with him.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 28, 2017, 04:43:56 AM
My Kopite mates are absolutely loving it. We are a joke right now

We are a joke under Unsworth, they are right about that
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: benny on November 28, 2017, 04:46:12 AM
Iím warming to the idea of The Big Sam*

*#thankyoukoeman
                      :o
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 28, 2017, 04:57:43 AM
He will have our pants down in these negotiations. He doesnít give a fuck. Just wants his £1m for keeping us up, which any half decent manager could do at as a minimum requirement anyway.

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 28, 2017, 05:01:33 AM
He will have our pants down in these negotiations. He doesnít give a fuck. Just wants his £1m for keeping us up, which any half decent manager could do at as a minimum requirement anyway.

Evidence?

Glad you have admitted that Unsworth is not a half decent manager
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: ally2 on November 28, 2017, 05:02:46 AM
He will have our pants down in these negotiations. He doesn't give a fuck. Just wants his £1m for keeping us up, which any half decent manager could do at as a minimum requirement anyway.

I'm not so sure. His reputation after England is quite poor. He will never get a better club or betteropportunity than to manage here. I know we are desperate but he would be absolutely mad to start trying to call the shots and playing 'who blinks first'.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on November 28, 2017, 05:08:31 AM
Still 3 in the frame according to Sky
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 28, 2017, 05:11:58 AM
Quote
If Sam gets the job he will load that team with experienced players - with his big hitters.

Defoe and Crouch in January then eh
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 28, 2017, 05:12:54 AM
Evidence?

Glad you have admitted that Unsworth is not a half decent manager

Find a post saying I did. Dopey prick.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 28, 2017, 05:14:42 AM
He will have our pants down in these negotiations. He doesn't give a fuck. Just wants his £1m for keeping us up, which any half decent manager could do at as a minimum requirement anyway.
He lives on this.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 28, 2017, 05:15:40 AM
I'm not so sure. His reputation after England is quite poor. He will never get a better club or betteropportunity than to manage here. I know we are desperate but he would be absolutely mad to start trying to call the shots and playing 'who blinks first'.

Isnít going back to him blinking first?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: brap2 on November 28, 2017, 05:35:45 AM
4 weeks ago I was vehemently against this, now I'm just desperate for us to stop getting battered.

How depressing

Same, Iíve got myself to the point of just wanting it to stop.

Lad from work has been pushing big sam for about a month. Iíve been openly laughing at him.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: ally2 on November 28, 2017, 05:37:13 AM
Isn't going back to him blinking first?

Sort of. But we didn't seem to want him last time. Who knows?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: sam of the south on November 28, 2017, 05:38:07 AM
Does anyone know if Allardyce coaches his team to press, or is it all about ten behind the ball, then a direct long ball over the top for players to run onto?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Redartin on November 28, 2017, 07:03:46 AM
If Moshiri had 3 contenders and two are Martin O'Neill, and this FAT CUNT I can't wait to find out who the third turd is.

We are a laughing stock.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Mac934 on November 28, 2017, 07:49:12 AM
Claudio Ranieri, proven PL Manager with Championship winning team😏😜👍🏼😂
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ramjam on November 28, 2017, 07:59:13 AM
Canít wait to see Sammy Lee in the Everton dugout for the derby with all his new gear on shouting for the Toffees while the Kop abuse the fuck out of him then the penny finally drops, this is where I belonged all the time and I never knew it until now.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: KingOfNapaValley on November 28, 2017, 09:44:39 AM
I think they already have him all but signed up. This is just a trial balloon by management to see how angry fans will be.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: boothill on November 28, 2017, 10:48:38 AM
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Bluedylan on November 28, 2017, 11:56:45 AM
Are we allowed to call him 'Twat Sam'?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 28, 2017, 01:05:03 PM
Are we allowed to call him 'Twat Sam'?

I already do
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: BlueNoseMike on November 28, 2017, 01:12:33 PM
If Moshiri had 3 contenders and two are Martin O'Neill, and this FAT CUNT I can't wait to find out who the third turd is.

We are a laughing stock.

Apparently it's fonseca. According to the chat in the debate last night anyway
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Bluebridge on November 28, 2017, 01:46:43 PM
Does anyone know if Allardyce coaches his team to press, or is it all about ten behind the ball, then a direct long ball over the top for players to run onto?
At this moment in time, unfortuantely, that is excatly what we need to do.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 28, 2017, 01:54:51 PM
Does anyone know if Allardyce coaches his team to press, or is it all about ten behind the ball, then a direct long ball over the top for players to run onto?

Its the later, his tactics have always been defend the launch it up to a target man, won't work here
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Waltzer on November 28, 2017, 02:15:04 PM
Its the later, his tactics have always been defend the launch it up to a target man, won't work here

I dont think he is actually too dissimilar to Koeman. Koeman used to like to play it into the channels and then get it in the box, I dont see Sam being that different, which for me is why it kind of makes sense to go down this route over Silva who would expect a more expansive game from his players, and a big squad overhaul. Its a basic brand of no nonsense, risk adverse football, which if were being honest is about the limits of our squad, theyve been asked to do other things and just fail .
 
Sam will bring the best out of Keane and Sigurdsson for sure, plus with Bolasie coming back I can see us doing okay, it will mean we get a target man in January, but I dont see that as being a bad thing.

And you say it wont work here, but id argue we are probably more synonymous with direct football, in my lifetime, than we are with anything else
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 28, 2017, 02:16:07 PM
Some really lazy opinions on here of Big Sam based on nasty London media tabloids and not on reality or facts

Some of you lads read the sun and mirror to much
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Redartin on November 28, 2017, 02:20:33 PM
Are we allowed to call him 'Twat Sam'?
Probably will be deemed offensive to other twats on here, being associated with him.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: gizzblue on November 28, 2017, 02:21:36 PM
Some really lazy opinions on here of Big Sam based on nasty London media tabloids and not on reality or facts

Some of you lads read the sun and mirror to much
Id say most opinions were actually based on historical shite of his teams....not to mention the video footage of him actually being dodgy as fuck about transfer fees and agents. 😅..which got him sacked from England and the FA were alevery twat is dodgy .😅
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 28, 2017, 02:24:31 PM
Probably will be deemed offensive to other twats on here, being associated with him.

Everton is one big family, respect and love your fellow fans
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 28, 2017, 02:24:55 PM
Sam would do a functional, and effective job for us at this moment in time, which is exactly what we are in desperate need for.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Redartin on November 28, 2017, 02:25:20 PM
When he was England manager how did he react to Barkley? Was it him who dropped Ross or did he select him?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 28, 2017, 02:25:25 PM
Some really lazy opinions on here of Big Sam based on nasty London media tabloids and not on reality or facts

Some of you lads read the sun and mirror to much

Probably from watching his shit football teams play shit football for over a decade.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 28, 2017, 02:25:48 PM
I dont think he is actually too dissimilar to Koeman. Koeman used to like to play it into the channels and then get it in the box, I dont see Sam being that different, which for me is why it kind of makes sense to go down this route over Silva who would expect a more expansive game from his players, and a big squad overhaul. Its a basic brand of no nonsense, risk adverse football, which if were being honest is about the limits of our squad, theyve been asked to do other things and just fail .
 
Sam will bring the best out of Keane and Sigurdsson for sure, plus with Bolasie coming back I can see us doing okay, it will mean we get a target man in January, but I dont see that as being a bad thing.

And you say it wont work here, but id argue we are probably more synonymous with direct football, in my lifetime, than we are with anything else

What im saying is it wont work because we havent got a target man and will struggle to get one in January
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Waltzer on November 28, 2017, 02:28:21 PM
What im saying is it wont work because we havent got a target man and will struggle to get one in January

Sorry, yes i agree 100%, but whoever we got in would have the same issues. I think with Sam we should give ourselves more chance until then as you can assume we'll be a lot more solid at the back. This shipping 3/4 goals per game needs to end!!
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Paddockoldie on November 28, 2017, 02:28:40 PM
If, and it is an if he can stop the slide, stop us leaking goals and get us safe then I have to go with him. We can't be choosey in our situation, even though I think our position isn't as bad as it seems and a couple of wins would make a huge difference but i can't see them happening as we are.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 28, 2017, 02:30:48 PM
Probably from watching his shit football teams play shit football for over a decade.

Have you forgotten the football under unsworth?
Or maybe the football under Koeman?
Or can I mention Martinez 2nd and 3rd seasons?
Or the site stuff under Moyes?

Some people donít like reality and facts
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Redartin on November 28, 2017, 02:34:07 PM
Everton is one big family, respect and love your fellow fans
Your right, but Sometimes it isn't easy.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 28, 2017, 02:34:53 PM
Honestly you would think Allardyce is up there with the world's best managers the way a few of you are going on. Hes shit, has been at every club hes managed, apart from a very brief spell at Bolton, won't be any different here, but will be lauded a hero when we stay up
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 28, 2017, 02:35:56 PM
Have you forgotten the football under unsworth?
Or maybe the football under Koeman?
Or can I mention Martinez 2nd and 3rd seasons?
Or the site stuff under Moyes?

Some people donít like reality and facts

What are you in about you dopey prick? Just because you put fact after an opinion doesnít make that opinion a fact. Proper dopey prick lolol

As if a decade of seeing his shit football teams play shit football without a single trophy isnít an indicator him serving up more trophy-less shit football.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 28, 2017, 02:39:11 PM
Sorry, yes i agree 100%, but whoever we got in would have the same issues. I think with Sam we should give ourselves more chance until then as you can assume we'll be a lot more solid at the back. This shipping 3/4 goals per game needs to end!!

He is wrong again

Sunderland didnít play with a target man and he kept them up when they looked doomed

More lazy opinions saying j only plays with a target man based on tabloid twaddle and not facts

Plus , the same big Sam moaners have been whining since September that we didnít sign a target man  :bonk:

You canít win!
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 28, 2017, 02:39:46 PM
Honestly you would think Allardyce is up there with the world's best managers the way a few of you are going on. Hes shit, has been at every club hes managed, apart from a very brief spell at Bolton, won't be any different here, but will be lauded a hero when we stay up

I haven't seen anybody on here suggesting he's up there with the best managers in the world, nobody is suggesting that. I have seen a lot of people taking the pragmatic approach to him given our current dire situation, nothing wrong with that.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 28, 2017, 02:40:47 PM
What are you in about you dopey prick? Just because you put fact after an opinion doesnít make that opinion a fact. Proper dopey prick lolol

As if a decade of seeing his shit football teams play shit football without a single trophy isnít an indicator him serving up more trophy-less shit football.

Please stop the nasty personal attackís.
Reported
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 28, 2017, 02:41:01 PM
When he was England manager how did he react to Barkley? Was it him who dropped Ross or did he select him?
Not really relevant, Barkley is as good as gone.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 28, 2017, 02:41:40 PM
I haven't seen anybody on here suggesting he's up there with the best managers in the world, nobody is suggesting that. I have seen a lot of people taking the pragmatic approach to him given our current dire situation, nothing wrong with that.

Quite a few seem to think all or our trouble will vanish when he takes over, its ridiculous
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 28, 2017, 02:42:53 PM
Please stop the nasty personal attackís.
Reported

Dopey prick.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: TheRam on November 28, 2017, 02:43:35 PM
For anyone who thinks he guarantees a solid defence, he lost 4-0 to Sunderland last season.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 28, 2017, 02:44:43 PM
For anyone who thinks he guarantees a solid defence, he lost 4-0 to Sunderland last season.

But hold on a minute. The tabloid media tell us heís the right man for the job and we canít do any better.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 28, 2017, 02:45:38 PM
For anyone who thinks he guarantees a solid defence, he lost 4-0 to Sunderland last season.

You can find a bad scoreline with any manager even the greats like sir Alex.
Not sure what that adds to the debate?
If I post a scoreline of a game Palace won unexpectedly, does that work in his favour?

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Waltzer on November 28, 2017, 02:46:33 PM
He is wrong again

Sunderland didnít play with a target man and he kept them up when they looked doomed

More lazy opinions saying j only plays with a target man based on tabloid twaddle and not facts

Plus , the same big Sam moaners have been whining since September that we didnít sign a target man  :bonk:

You canít win!

I think his preference would be to have a target man, but he will adapt, you have to. Id be surprised in January if we went for someone of Defoes stature or style over someone like Bas Dost and that is proven when he does have the ability to get in who he wants.
And I didnt really care in September who we got in target man or someone about 4ft tall, we just needed someone and then we wouldnt be in this position.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: TheRam on November 28, 2017, 02:47:46 PM
You can find a bad scoreline with any manager even the greats like sir Alex.
Not sure what that adds to the debate?
If I post a scoreline of a game Palace won unexpectedly, does that work in his favour?



Lost 4-0 to one of the worst teams the world has ever seen.

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 28, 2017, 02:49:18 PM
Lost 4-0 to one of the worst teams the world has ever seen.
Clearly
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: TheRam on November 28, 2017, 02:50:22 PM
But hold on a minute. The tabloid media tell us heís the right man for the job and we canít do any better.

Very nearly took Sunderland down until they come across and Everton team during the last days of Martinez. Pretty sure we beat them 6-2 that season when he was in charge as well?

Lost his first five games when he took over palace.

This man will bring us right down to his level.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 28, 2017, 02:52:33 PM
Very nearly took Sunderland down until they come across and Everton team during the last days of Martinez. Pretty sure we beat them 6-2 that season when he was in charge as well?

Lost his first five games when he took over palace.

This man will bring us right down to his level.

Correct and yet people still want him here, it beggars belief

Oh and he lost 4 out of his last 5 games at Palace
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Waltzer on November 28, 2017, 02:53:14 PM
Very nearly took Sunderland down until they come across and Everton team during the last days of Martinez. Pretty sure we beat them 6-2 that season when he was in charge as well?

Lost his first five games when he took over palace.

This man will bring us right down to his level.

Im getting the feeling you dont hold a lot of confidence in our board to get the best outcomes for us!! :)
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 28, 2017, 02:53:22 PM
Very nearly took Sunderland down until they come across and Everton team during the last days of Martinez. Pretty sure we beat them 6-2 that season when he was in charge as well?

Lost his first five games when he took over palace.

This man will bring us right down to his level.

You right again

What happened at palace will happen exactly the same at Everton cause heís got the same players and resources at the same club

And no doubt the same thing that happened at Sunderland will happen at Everton as we also have the same players, resources and club

Why didnít I think of this?

Or maybe your only as good as the hand your dealt ?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 28, 2017, 02:54:43 PM
Very nearly took Sunderland down until they come across and Everton team during the last days of Martinez. Pretty sure we beat them 6-2 that season when he was in charge as well?

Lost his first five games when he took over palace.

This man will bring us right down to his level.

Your avatar looks like Big Sam in disguise   :snigger:
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Bluedylan on November 28, 2017, 03:00:36 PM
You right again

What happened at palace will happen exactly the same at Everton cause heís got the same players and resources at the same club

And no doubt the same thing that happened at Sunderland will happen at Everton as we also have the same players, resources and club

Why didnít I think of this?

Or maybe your only as good as the hand your dealt ?


There's a reason he only gets shit hands dealt to him. He only manages shit clubs with short-term chaotic, reactive thinking. That's his level.

Anyone running a progressive, ambitious club wouldn't be seen dead with this retrograde fuck anywhere near the reigns.

We get that you don't think too much of Everton, and that you're happy for any old shyster to walk through the door. Some of us have standards, and believed our club had standards. Apparently we were wrong.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Rhys on November 28, 2017, 03:01:52 PM
It looks like it is happening and when it does we just have to get on with it.

But seeing as he isn't in yet still time to whinge. For over 15 years his teams have been horrible to watch, horrid football, encouraged people to cheat and play with dirty tactics. Any time we played against one of his teams it was urgh got to play against that. But worst of all was hated to listen to him as a person to watch speaking after games, analysis it was all about how good he was. If his team lost it was the players aren't performing, if they win it is all my tactics are brilliant.

15 years of hating watching his football, 15 years of hating watching him speak. And it looks like we are resorting to it. Can just imagine him getting us into mid table and him talking like he has performed the impossible in doing it and expecting us to lick his feet.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 28, 2017, 03:03:54 PM
It looks like it is happening and when it does we just have to get on with it.

But seeing as he isn't in yet still time to whinge. For over 15 years his teams have been horrible to watch, horrid football, encouraged people to cheat and play with dirty tactics. Any time we played against one of his teams it was urgh got to play against that. But worst of all was hated to listen to him as a person to watch speaking after games, analysis it was all about how good he was. If his team lost it was the players aren't performing, if they win it is all my tactics are brilliant.

15 years of hating watching his football, 15 years of hating watching him speak. And it looks like we are resorting to it. Can just imagine him getting us into mid table and him talking like he has performed the impossible in doing it and expecting us to lick his feet.

You still talking about Moyes?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 28, 2017, 03:05:48 PM
I just think we've looked high and low and no-one of any calibre wants to come, or is available, so we're going for a stop gap to hopefully keep us up and then if we have to get rid in the summer he gets a years payoff and we maybe move onto a fresh target to take us forwards. He's not daft he knows he's not first choice, he's said it himself in interviews, so he'll see it as a challenge and a pension top-up. It is what it is, let's hope we stay up and common sense prevails.

You know worra mean like. (Eurgh!)
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Rhys on November 28, 2017, 03:07:47 PM
You still talking about Moyes?

For some maybe, I still won't have a bad word said about the job he did here though!
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Smingers on November 28, 2017, 03:08:22 PM
Why cant we get Ancellotti? Or someone else with pedigree. I know we are not a pretty prospect at the moment.  But I've said it before and I'll say it again money talks. Just pay over the odds for a world class manager. Why can't we find the next poch like Southampton did? I'm sure there are tens of managers better than allardyce who would want this job.

We are a laughing stock of a club from top to bottom if we take on allardyce.

We are getting there but this would take the cake!
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 28, 2017, 03:08:54 PM
For some maybe, I still won't have a bad word said about the job he did here though!

Not even a few small gripes. Just a couple like.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 28, 2017, 03:09:36 PM
Why cant we get Ancellotti? Or someone else with pedigree.

For the same reason we have DCL and not Messi up front.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Smingers on November 28, 2017, 03:17:13 PM
For the same reason we have DCL and not Messi up front.

I get that. But money talks. And getting a good manager in is a bit easier than signing the best player in the world.  Look at man city who would have thought they could be where they are now, even after being bought and sold a few times. They still went out and put a stamp on the league and splashed out on big names.

OK then, if not ancellotti then the next pochettino? Someone must be scouting progressive managers abroad?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 28, 2017, 03:22:01 PM
I just think we've looked high and low and no-one of any calibre wants to come, or is available, so we're going for a stop gap to hopefully keep us up and then if we have to get rid in the summer he gets a years payoff and we maybe move onto a fresh target to take us forwards. He's not daft he knows he's not first choice, he's said it himself in interviews, so he'll see it as a challenge and a pension top-up. It is what it is, let's hope we stay up and common sense prevails.

You know worra mean like. (Eurgh!)

Exactly my thoughts, we need someone like tomorrow to stop the haemhoraging, we approached him earlier with a short term contract which would have been the right thing to do and get someone else in before the start of next season but he declined, fine, so we still need someone, he wants 2 1/2 year contract at £4 million per year, give it to him, he keeps us up and we sack him end of season, we might have to pay him £6 million quid, Moshiri gives a fuck, he was willing to pay £12 million compensation to Watford, if he still wants Silva at the end of this season he gets him on a free.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Paddockoldie on November 28, 2017, 03:22:53 PM
Why cant we get Ancellotti? Or someone else with pedigree. I know we are not a pretty prospect at the moment.  But I've said it before and I'll say it again money talks. Just pay over the odds for a world class manager. Why can't we find the next poch like Southampton did? I'm sure there are tens of managers better than allardyce who would want this job.

We are a laughing stock of a club from top to bottom if we take on allardyce.

We are getting there but this would take the cake!

We haven't got the time frame to find the new Poch because we're falling week in week out. Throwing money around has resulted in the chaos we have now maybe.. repeating that might end the same. A laughing stock? Get relegated and you'll never hear the end of the laughing.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 28, 2017, 03:25:54 PM
I get that. But money talks. And getting a good manager in is a bit easier than signing the best player in the world.  Look at man city who would have thought they could be where they are now, even after being bought and sold a few times. They still went out and put a stamp on the league and splashed out on big names.

OK then, if not ancellotti then the next pochettino? Someone must be scouting progressive managers abroad?

Man City got the world class players in before they could attract a world class manager, we don't have a single player anywhere near best in the country let alone best in the world.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Paddockoldie on November 28, 2017, 03:26:31 PM
Honestly you would think Allardyce is up there with the world's best managers the way a few of you are going on. Hes shit, has been at every club hes managed, apart from a very brief spell at Bolton, won't be any different here, but will be lauded a hero when we stay up

Where's Silva? The only one we'd get sits under the Lone Ranger's arse
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: sirblue57 on November 28, 2017, 03:29:14 PM
You still talking about Moyes?

Moyes is ten times the manager that prick is.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 28, 2017, 03:29:42 PM
I get that. But money talks. And getting a good manager in is a bit easier than signing the best player in the world.  Look at man city who would have thought they could be where they are now, even after being bought and sold a few times. They still went out and put a stamp on the league and splashed out on big names.

OK then, if not ancellotti then the next pochettino? Someone must be scouting progressive managers abroad?

I don't think we're that forward thinking as a club, we have no structure to facilitate that. We don't have the hierarchy or even an identifiable ethos to enable this to happen.

Which is the most disappointing thing for me. The first thing I would have liked our majority shareholder to do is to signal an intent to follow a model like Atletico, or Sevilla, who always seem one step ahead of the present in terms of planning. Let's build a club around a togetherness that is progressive and clearly identifiable. Maybe the appointment of a Monchi would have tried to do this but in clear Everton fashion we might end up with a couple of old school English blokes from Lancashire eating pie and chips in the boardroom planning our near future. 
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: brap2 on November 28, 2017, 03:40:18 PM
still working on the Reasons to be Cheerful About Sam list, let yas know where I get with it.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: GLewis on November 28, 2017, 03:44:09 PM
Silver lining number...4

We are currently the easiest team to play against probably in the whole football league.

As mentioned we wonít be with him in charge.

As long as the players do what he has told them to do.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 28, 2017, 04:01:21 PM
Moyes and Allardyce in the dugouts at Goodison on Wednesday maybe. What a strange and horrible twist of fate we've been dealt.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 28, 2017, 04:02:32 PM
Moyes and Allardyce in the dugouts at Goodison on Wednesday maybe. What a strange and horrible twist of fate we've been dealt.

Horrible
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 28, 2017, 04:04:25 PM
Has a new manager ever been boo'd when introduced to the fans?

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 28, 2017, 04:04:51 PM
Moyes is ten times the manager that prick is.
lolol lolol lolol lolol lolol lolol
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: GoodisonPk on November 28, 2017, 04:08:16 PM
Jim White says it's very very close to being Sam.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ell Capitan on November 28, 2017, 04:08:24 PM
Whilst Allardyce isn't anyone's idea of a long term manager, he's a safe pair of hands to steady the ship and hopefully put us in a position in 6 or 18 months to hand over the reins to someone else.

If you really look at it, we've been far from solid for the better part of 4 years. Last season was OK but we undid all the good work quickly with our transfer policy this summer.

This season is already a write off so i view the primary objective as stabilising and setting us up for the future.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Rhys on November 28, 2017, 04:11:40 PM
Not even a few small gripes. Just a couple like.

Maybe a couple but was so used to being on the defensive about him on here cant remember what they were...
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 28, 2017, 04:12:22 PM
Jim White says it's very very close to being Sam.
I wonder how this will be publicised? Getting a new manager is obviously a big deal but just canít see the club releasing a swanky video with Sam sat at the managerís desk, holding a pint of wine grinning like a Cheshire Cat.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ross on November 28, 2017, 04:13:59 PM
Next 24 hours Moshiriís mouthpiece just said...

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 28, 2017, 04:15:34 PM
Has a new manager ever been boo'd when introduced to the fans?

I think there was a small element within the West Ham crowd that booed Moyes, what they hope to achieve by doing that God only knows, I sincerely hope that should Allardyce indeed be introduced to the crowd at Goodison that we don't have any of that nonsense, what would be the point ?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 28, 2017, 04:16:33 PM
Haters gonna hate

Lots of hatred and bile on here, really nasty stuff

Need to unite behind the club now, letís come together and cheer the lads on the pitch
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 28, 2017, 04:16:45 PM
Lot of media camped outside Goodison, announcement imminent is the latest
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 28, 2017, 04:17:52 PM
Haters gonna hate

Lots of hatred and bile on here, really nasty stuff

Need to unite behind the club now, letís come together and cheer the lads on the pitch

Says the fella who refered to someone as a nonce
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 28, 2017, 04:19:33 PM
I think there was a small element within the West Ham crowd that booed Moyes, what they hope to achieve by doing that God only knows, I sincerely hope that should Allardyce indeed be introduced to the crowd at Goodison that we don't have any of that nonsense, what would be the point ?

It lets the clowns running the club know that the vast majority of us arn't happy with this appointment, and rightly so.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Alanvideo on November 28, 2017, 04:22:04 PM
Lot of media camped outside Goodison, announcement imminent is the latest
...................here he comes

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 28, 2017, 04:23:10 PM
Says the fella who refered to someone as a nonce

Itís old news mate, just mentioning it . Sorry I didnít ignore it so you could feel better about your poster boy
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: bigl1cks on November 28, 2017, 04:25:00 PM
Who cares who it is in the dugout, itís all about the 3 points every Saturday for me.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 28, 2017, 04:26:39 PM
It lets the clowns running the club know that the vast majority of us arn't happy with this appointment, and rightly so.

Where have you seen the statistic that "the vast majority" aren't happy ? There may well be a majority that have a sense of relief at least that we are no longer rudderless . If you want to let the board know you're unhappy write them a letter or e.mail but don't make the players, Manager and coaching staff feel like shit before a ball has been kicked. I doubt that this will stop you booing (if you are a match goer ?)
but can only hope that those around you are more sensible/mature and put you right.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: School of Science on November 28, 2017, 04:36:37 PM
It lets the clowns running the club know that the vast majority of us arn't happy with this appointment, and rightly so.

End of the day the club comes first, if Sam serves his purpose, fine we get rid, we can afford it, but booing him will be counter productive to Everton. I don't like it but if he gets us out of trouble in a years time we can go for the Silva's  of this world get them and move on. I'm getting through this because I'm thinking of it as a setback, medicine today to get us up and running with a Silva lining next year.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: brap2 on November 28, 2017, 04:36:55 PM
Stats floating about that heís lost the majority of his first games in his last two appointments. 8 in 11 in one place!
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 28, 2017, 04:39:18 PM
Where have you seen the statistic that "the vast majority" aren't happy ? There may well be a majority that have a sense of relief at least that we are no longer rudderless . If you want to let the board know you're unhappy write them a letter or e.mail but don't make the players, Manager and coaching staff feel like shit before a ball has been kicked. I doubt that this will stop you booing (if you are a match goer ?)
but can only hope that those around you are more sensible/mature and put you right.

Not saying it should happen, but its possible that it will. Every single fan I've spoken to lately is pissed off with this appointment.

I'm a match goer, but won't be going tomorrow due to family commitments and I have to sort my sock draw out.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Smingers on November 28, 2017, 04:40:04 PM
Stats floating about that heís lost the majority of his first games in his last two appointments. 8 in 11 in one place!

This is the kind of reason why we shouldnt give him the job. But it looks imminent now. Smh
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 28, 2017, 04:40:43 PM
End of the day the club comes first, if Sam serves his purpose, fine we get rid, we can afford it, but booing him will be counter productive to Everton. I don't like it but if he gets us out of trouble in a years time we can go for the Silva's  of this world get them and move on. I'm getting through this because I'm thinking of it as a setback, medicine today to get us up and running with a Silva lining next year.

Exactly !
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: TheTone on November 28, 2017, 04:45:05 PM
does he still sit in the stands first half with the head piece on?

this is going to be interesting to say the least

kin hell
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 28, 2017, 04:47:29 PM
Not saying it should happen, but its possible that it will. Every single fan I've spoken to lately is pissed off with this appointment.

I'm a match goer, but won't be going tomorrow due to family commitments and I have to sort my sock draw out.

Well people get pissed off but when it comes to it I doubt they will actually boo, it's up to Allardyce to win the crowd over but it won't happen overnight, only once we start moving up the table.

Sock drawers are important too ! You could always watch the match from behind the settee !
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 28, 2017, 04:49:45 PM
Stats floating about that heís lost the majority of his first games in his last two appointments. 8 in 11 in one place!
Link?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 28, 2017, 04:51:10 PM
Well people get pissed off but when it comes to it I doubt they will actually boo, it's up to Allardyce to win the crowd over but it won't happen overnight, only once we start moving up the table.

Sock drawers are important too ! You could always watch the match from behind the settee !

Odd pairs all over the place, it's just not good enough. Oh I'll be watching and my swear box will overflowing as usual.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: ally2 on November 28, 2017, 05:00:24 PM
I'm not an Allardyce fan but I think he will sort us out. And by God we need sorting out.

It will please me greatly that his appointment will piss off a lot of our fans. Those that are still in total denial and delusion about where we sit in the football pyramid. The same ones that boo our own players and probably our new manager. The same ones crying to sack Koeman after five games after he led us into Europe following the Martinez car crash. And I'm really hoping they all just F off for good and 'support' someone else. Fed up of reading this sentimental bullshit on here. We think we are special. So does every fan of their club.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Londontoff33 on November 28, 2017, 05:00:33 PM
Heís coming in to do the job till May. Anything further will depend on how well he does but I think moshiri knows who he wants from then onwards. 

Maybe we can call him fireman sam at klanfield. When weíre 3-0 up and the fire drill is sounding when the kopites are all walking out at the 80th minute.

Wishful thinking?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 28, 2017, 05:03:31 PM
Stats floating about that heís lost the majority of his first games in his last two appointments. 8 in 11 in one place!

73% of stats are made up
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: TheRam on November 28, 2017, 05:08:58 PM
https://twitter.com/gregok/status/935462641073643522

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 28, 2017, 05:13:00 PM
73% of stats are made up

"There are three kinds of lies, lies, dammned lies and statistics" Benjamin Disraeli
" The only statistics you can trust are the ones you falsify yourself" Winston Churchill
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 28, 2017, 05:13:06 PM
So basically Walsh is just hiring all of his mates
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 28, 2017, 05:16:09 PM
"There are three kinds of lies, lies, dammned lies and statistics" Benjamin Disraeli
" The only statistics you can trust are the ones you falsify yourself" Winston Churchill

"We're in the stickiest situation since Sticky the stick insect got stuck on a sticky bun" - Edmund Blackadder
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: sam of the south on November 28, 2017, 05:21:59 PM
https://twitter.com/gregok/status/935462641073643522



I'm disliking P.E. Teacher Walsh more with each passing day, and Moshiri too.

I've got a weird, unexplainable feeling that I'm going to like Allardyce a lot more than those two, however.

I've got blind hope that he's going to organise us, which we desperately need, and that players are going to respond well to him, because he's more gregarious than Koeman, and has more stature in the game than Unsworth, and that our flair players are going to feel able to perform with a more solid base behind them.

Probably all denial on my part, though, and we'll end up playing even shitter football than we have been up until now, and getting relegated by March.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 28, 2017, 05:23:31 PM
He'll take them all out for a curry and a few beers first, for bonding and team morale.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Mayor Farnum on November 28, 2017, 05:35:14 PM
Has a new manager ever been boo'd when introduced to the fans?



No but if ever there was a group of fans stupid enough to do it........
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Tinga on November 28, 2017, 05:42:08 PM
Imagine telling us this story in the summer or when Moshiri came in.  lolol What the hell has happened?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Mayor Farnum on November 28, 2017, 05:42:54 PM
Stats floating about that heís lost the majority of his first games in his last two appointments. 8 in 11 in one place!

That's probably an indication as to the jobs he gets offered. Any stats as to where clubs are when he takes over and where they are when he leaves?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Mayor Farnum on November 28, 2017, 05:44:46 PM
So basically Walsh is just hiring all of his mates

It's the oldest tradition in football.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lazarou on November 28, 2017, 05:48:17 PM
Imagine telling us this story in the summer or when Moshiri came in.  lolol What the hell has happened?

(https://media.giphy.com/media/l0Ex9UwY2qcKLnZHG/giphy.gif)

Never would have believed any of it six months ago, shows how quick football can change for better or for worse.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 28, 2017, 05:48:39 PM
I'm not an Allardyce fan but I think he will sort us out. And by God we need sorting out.

It will please me greatly that his appointment will piss off a lot of our fans. Those that are still in total denial and delusion about where we sit in the football pyramid. The same ones that boo our own players and probably our new manager. The same ones crying to sack Koeman after five games after he led us into Europe following the Martinez car crash. And I'm really hoping they all just F off for good and 'support' someone else. Fed up of reading this sentimental bullshit on here. We think we are special. So does every fan of their club.

Best post I have read on this forum for years
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 28, 2017, 05:51:24 PM
Update from my source, Rooney is made up with Big Sam coming and has made contact.

If that is a call or text I donít know but itís great to see the players getting behind the new manager, if only some of the fans could grasp reality and realise some of the mud thrown at Allerdyce by the London media isnít true.

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Waltzer on November 28, 2017, 05:52:12 PM
I'm disliking P.E. Teacher Walsh more with each passing day, and Moshiri too.

I've got a weird, unexplainable feeling that I'm going to like Allardyce a lot more than those two, however.

I've got blind hope that he's going to organise us, which we desperately need, and that players are going to respond well to him, because he's more gregarious than Koeman, and has more stature in the game than Unsworth, and that our flair players are going to feel able to perform with a more solid base behind them.

Probably all denial on my part, though, and we'll end up playing even shitter football than we have been up until now, and getting relegated by March.

Im with you on this. I was hoping my scepticism would be wrong about Moshiri but im still to be proven wrong. I really dislike Walsh and dont think he should be at the club, hes done nothing and is living off of apparent past glories. People go on about him getting x,y and z in but was he really the sole factor in highlighting and recruiting these, I dont know?

And Allardyce hasn't exactly got big boots to fill, were almost at an all time low, even for Everton standards, so any impact should be good.

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 28, 2017, 05:57:09 PM
We're finishing 7th under this fella this season. Overtaking the frontrunners for this position like Watford and Burnley.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Brownie on November 28, 2017, 06:15:27 PM
Rumours that there's an evening training session tonight doing the rounds
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Tofifee on November 28, 2017, 06:16:45 PM
i despise Fat Sam, and all the bullsh*t that goes with him
BUT
I despise the mess we are in now even more, and if its gonna be Sam, then appoint him, get it done and lets get bloody on with it!

And to think, a few years back people thought we should be going for Jose when we got RK....
The delusion of the fans of this club never ceases to amaze

If its Sam, its Sam, so be it, get on with it and best of luck Sam......you cnut!
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lincs Toffee on November 28, 2017, 06:18:13 PM
Rumours that there's an evening training session tonight doing the rounds
Apparently Sam is in Dubai isn't he?...so cant see much of a change for the first few games if it is actually him coming in, unless he is Skyping everyone tonight on a big screen at the training ground!!
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Mayor Farnum on November 28, 2017, 06:19:12 PM
Can we have a rule on here that swear words should be spelt properly or not used at all?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: blargins on November 28, 2017, 06:26:58 PM
Apparently Sam is in Dubai isn't he?...so cant see much of a change for the first few games if it is actually him coming in, unless he is Skyping everyone tonight on a big screen at the training ground!!

I'm thinking of him managing via that big fuck off screen in the corner of the stadium via skype in his armchair in Dubai.

The dream of every fan that is :)
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: TheRam on November 28, 2017, 06:28:16 PM
We're finishing 7th under this fella this season. Overtaking the frontrunners for this position like Watford and Burnley.

We won't finish above 12th
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MmmblueBernard on November 28, 2017, 06:41:17 PM
Can we have a rule on here that swear words should be spelt properly or not used at all?

is 'Allerdice' even a swear word?

If not, it should be.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Tofifee on November 28, 2017, 06:43:57 PM
Can we have a rule on here that swear words should be spelt properly or not used at all?

ah fupp off ya ol teabag
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Tinga on November 28, 2017, 07:07:07 PM
Update from my source, Rooney is made up with Big Sam coming and has made contact.

If that is a call or text I donít know but itís great to see the players getting behind the new manager, if only some of the fans could grasp reality and realise some of the mud thrown at Allerdyce by the London media isnít true.



Like the respect you show the man when you can't even type his name correctly.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 28, 2017, 07:09:07 PM
Correct

Welcome to Goodison Park Samuel

Your now part of the greatest football family on earth

Win us a trophy and we will love you forever
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 28, 2017, 07:09:33 PM
Update from my source, Rooney is made up with Big Sam coming and has made contact.

If that is a call or text I donít know but itís great to see the players getting behind the new manager, if only some of the fans could grasp reality and realise some of the mud thrown at Allerdyce by the London media isnít true.



Oh fuck off.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Bluedylan on November 28, 2017, 07:10:16 PM
I'm not an Allardyce fan but I think he will sort us out. And by God we need sorting out.

It will please me greatly that his appointment will piss off a lot of our fans. Those that are still in total denial and delusion about where we sit in the football pyramid. The same ones that boo our own players and probably our new manager. The same ones crying to sack Koeman after five games after he led us into Europe following the Martinez car crash. And I'm really hoping they all just F off for good and 'support' someone else. Fed up of reading this sentimental bullshit on here. We think we are special. So does every fan of their club.

So if people don't agree with you, they should go and support someone else? Forgive me, but that sounds like a load of self important bollocks. Not allowed differences of opinion anymore?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 28, 2017, 07:11:45 PM
Oh fuck off.

See my earlier posts
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Bluedylan on November 28, 2017, 07:12:50 PM
Like the respect you show the man when you can't even type his name correctly.

Or referring to another manager in the running as a 'nonce'. Right loudmouth bellend this realdunc fella.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: dax78 on November 28, 2017, 07:14:10 PM
We won't finish above 12th

That will hardly be Sam's fault
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MmmblueBernard on November 28, 2017, 07:15:28 PM
 Is therealdunc a genuine WUM or ITK? Who knows. In reality is there a genuine need for the nastiness though?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 28, 2017, 07:16:01 PM
Update from my source, Rooney is made up with Big Sam coming and has made contact.

If that is a call or text I donít know but itís great to see the players getting behind the new manager, if only some of the fans could grasp reality and realise some of the mud thrown at Allerdyce by the London media isnít true.


(http://img01.thedrum.com/s3fs-public/news/tmp/77017/capture_91.png)
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Mayor Farnum on November 28, 2017, 07:21:57 PM
(http://img01.thedrum.com/s3fs-public/news/tmp/77017/capture_91.png)

Sauce; maybe. They even put in on the bottle for you.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 28, 2017, 07:30:16 PM
Unsworth press conference live on o.s. Now, should give us a clue or two.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 28, 2017, 07:32:09 PM
Unsworth press conference live on o.s. Now, should give us a clue or two.
Feel sorry for him
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Mayor Farnum on November 28, 2017, 07:34:10 PM
Unsworth press conference live on o.s. Now, should give us a clue or two.

He's grown a mustache, is chewing gum and his shirt is unbuttoned to mid-chest. There may be a message in that.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 28, 2017, 07:37:27 PM
Link?

From the club results, in his first 11 PL games at Sunderland, W3 L8. For comparison, his first 11 at Palace were W4 D1 L6 with the last three of those games being wins.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 28, 2017, 07:39:47 PM
73% of stats are made up

No, that's wrong, it's 88.1%.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: benny on November 28, 2017, 07:42:36 PM
From the club results, in his first 11 PL games at Sunderland, W3 L8. For comparison, his first 11 at Palace were W4 D1 L6 with the last three of those games being wins.
            plus i agree with Michael Ball in the echo when he says we haven`t got the type of players that suit the way Allardyce plays his game
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: BlueMaquis on November 28, 2017, 07:46:36 PM
From the club results, in his first 11 PL games at Sunderland, W3 L8. For comparison, his first 11 at Palace were W4 D1 L6 with the last three of those games being wins.

I just wonder if when he loses those 8 out of 11 games for us he will be judged as harshly as Unsworth is being judged at the moment. I doubt it.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 28, 2017, 07:50:05 PM
I just wonder if when he loses those 8 out of 11 games for us he will be judged as harshly as Unsworth is being judged at the moment. I doubt it.

Of course he will. Everyone gets judged on results. Not sure what angle you're coming from here.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 28, 2017, 07:51:42 PM
I just wonder if when he loses those 8 out of 11 games for us he will be judged as harshly as Unsworth is being judged at the moment. I doubt it.

Opinions may vary. If you take the palace results, after after 8 PL games it was W1 D1 L6, around an FA Cup "run" of draw/win against Bolton, loss to City. He also took over late December so had the window after a couple of games.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: BlueMaquis on November 28, 2017, 07:56:45 PM
Of course he will. Everyone gets judged on results. Not sure what angle you're coming from here.

I just think the "give him time" crowd will be out in force. Unsy isn't getting time so Sam shouldn't either.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 28, 2017, 08:02:38 PM
I just think the "give him time" crowd will be out in force. Unsy isn't getting time so Sam shouldn't either.

Behave.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: ally2 on November 28, 2017, 08:05:14 PM
Looks like we'll have to pay off his contract

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42151947
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: SANA_DR0 on November 28, 2017, 08:06:36 PM
Rather get Fonseca from Shaktar Donesk
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 28, 2017, 08:10:20 PM
Rather get Fonseca from Shaktar Donesk

would rather have Simeone or Ancelloti or Tuchel or Silva or or or ......fact is they are all beyond our reach.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Mayor Farnum on November 28, 2017, 08:19:31 PM
From the club results, in his first 11 PL games at Sunderland, W3 L8. For comparison, his first 11 at Palace were W4 D1 L6 with the last three of those games being wins.

Were those clubs running along nicely prior to him taking over?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 28, 2017, 08:28:00 PM
No, they were all deep in the shit the way we are.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: D15TIN on November 28, 2017, 08:32:27 PM
Rather get Fonseca from Shaktar Donesk
Based on what exactly? Because he has a foreign name? Mightnt even speak English, never been in the premier league, and he's expected to sort this mess out? Not a chance, basically suicide for us - a Remi Garde type appointment.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ross on November 28, 2017, 08:36:00 PM
No, they were all deep in the shit the way we are.

Are we in deep shit or just in poor form? If heís takes over on Thursday he could well walk into a club sitting comfortably in mid table and only 7 points behind the team in our much tipped and widely expected finishing position from pre season when optimism was running high.

If he gets us in a relegation fight after being handed such a position itís got to be viewed as a failure has it not?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: SANA_DR0 on November 28, 2017, 08:52:49 PM
would rather have Simeone or Ancelloti or Tuchel or Silva or or or ......fact is they are all beyond our reach.

Tuchel would be my first choice. but as you said beyond our reach, while Fonseca isnt and is being linked with us.. He's done well every where else has managed..

Based on what exactly? Because he has a foreign name? Mightnt even speak English, never been in the premier league, and he's expected to sort this mess out? Not a chance, basically suicide for us - a Remi Garde type appointment.

as said above. hes done very well everywhere  else he has managed.. he's almost a star manager... but i digress back on topic.. Lets get Allardyce in then.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Mayor Farnum on November 28, 2017, 08:54:28 PM
Are we in deep shit or just in poor form? If heís takes over on Thursday he could well walk into a club sitting comfortably in mid table and only 7 points behind the team in our much tipped and widely expected finishing position from pre season when optimism was running high.

If he gets us in a relegation fight after being handed such a position itís got to be viewed as a failure has it not?

We've conceded about a zillion goals. There's your clue.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ross on November 28, 2017, 09:02:42 PM
We've conceded about a zillion goals. There's your clue.

Hence the ďpoor formĒ comment.

If he comes in and weíre mid table within touching distance of our anticipated finishing position surely we should be looking to be moving up the league and not down it? Especially if he is this managerial magician some have him pegged as.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: D15TIN on November 28, 2017, 09:03:04 PM
Tuchel would be my first choice. but as you said beyond our reach, while Fonseca isnt and is being linked with us.. He's done well every where else has managed..

as said above. hes done very well everywhere  else he has managed.. he's almost a star manager... but i digress back on topic.. Lets get Allardyce in then.
Were by far the worst team in the league based on performances, we can't afford to take a chance, in the summer I'd consider a Fonseca type, but not now, we are fucking shite.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 28, 2017, 09:18:24 PM
So much for paddy power being Ďgenerousí and a so called bookie when it comes to the Everton managers job.

Big Sam is 4/7, maximum stake is £50

Joke of a bookie

Yet they would allow me to have thousands on the roulette or FOBTs.

This lot should lose their gambling license
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 28, 2017, 09:20:06 PM
So much for paddy power being Ďgenerousí and a so called bookie when it comes to the Everton managers job.

Big Sam is 4/7, maximum stake is £50

Joke of a bookie

Yet they would allow me to have thousands on the roulette or FOBTs.

This lot should lose their gambling license

11/10 on William Hill currently
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 28, 2017, 09:21:44 PM
Hasnít got a William hill account but may open one.

Are they as bad as paddy power for limiting your stake?

3rd time paddy power have limited my stake on a short price bet, had enough of them now
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Rhys on November 28, 2017, 09:26:12 PM
Based on what exactly? Because he has a foreign name? Mightnt even speak English, never been in the premier league, and he's expected to sort this mess out? Not a chance, basically suicide for us - a Remi Garde type appointment.

Thats assuming a lot that you are only likely to do well in this job if you have shown something in England. Southampton were in trouble, doing ok as could expect with Adkins sacked him and got Pochettino, he got them playing really well and kept them up. He then finished 8th, Spurs gambled and are getting the rewards. Garde didnt work, maybe he was a bad manager? Maybe Fonseca is a bad manager I dont know, but if he is good then just because he hasnt managed in England yet doesnt mean he shouldnt be capable of pushing us up the league. Likewise if he is good there is much more chance of us achieving something moving forward than Allardyce.

Aside from that, Garde's record as a manager before Villa was only at Lyon;

11/12 - Finished 4th, 18 points behind winners Montpellier. Did win the cup.
12/13 - Finished 3rd
13/14 - Finished 5th

They finished 2nd the two following seasons after he was there, maybe he was doing a bad job?

Fonseca (speaks fluent english) top flight record up to now;

12/13 - Pacos Ferreira - 3rd - Qualified for CL for their first time ever when they had finished 10th the year before
13/14 - Porto - Sacked in March when they were 3rd
14/15 - Pacos Ferreira - 8th
15/16 - Braga - 4th. Won the cup
16/17 - Shakthar - Won the league and cup (Kiev won the league for previous 2 seasons)

It's a mixed bag with not doing well at Porto but there are some very good things in there and much more of a scope for people who scout managers for a living to look at someone and say how they might do as opposed to Remi Garde.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 28, 2017, 09:26:42 PM
Are we in deep shit or just in poor form? If heís takes over on Thursday he could well walk into a club sitting comfortably in mid table and only 7 points behind the team in our much tipped and widely expected finishing position from pre season when optimism was running high.

If he gets us in a relegation fight after being handed such a position itís got to be viewed as a failure has it not?

I think we are in deep shit because of our poor form, thing is I don't see anything other than an immediate appointment of a manager bringing about an improvement in our poor form.

Don't disagree with your final sentence but personally think it's highly unlikely.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Mayor Farnum on November 28, 2017, 09:31:51 PM
Fonseca is a huge risk to be taking in our predicament. We may have done our homework and he may have a very good reputation. However, his record is patchy at best.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: SANA_DR0 on November 28, 2017, 09:52:01 PM
So much for paddy power being Ďgenerousí and a so called bookie when it comes to the Everton managers job.

Big Sam is 4/7, maximum stake is £50

Joke of a bookie

Yet they would allow me to have thousands on the roulette or FOBTs.

This lot should lose their gambling license

paddy power rock

check this everton team by them
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEIkrORXYAA-olJ.jpg)
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: formerKHL on November 28, 2017, 09:55:50 PM
Here's my reason for not wanting allardyce here....this is in answer to therealduncs post in the everton V west ham thread...

When he was at Bolton I was watching their tactics once at goodison...it was basically play up the line..win a throw..play up the line win a throw....play up the line win a throw....until they got near enough to our area to put a "long throw" high into our box....ALTERNATIVELY it was lump it up to Davis and I cant remember the (Danish I think lad he had up front with him).....They went 1-0 up...subsequently everytime we got a throw, free kick, goal kick etc they would kick the ball away and waste time...allardyce actually kicked it into the crowd a couple of times..and they held on to a 1-0 lead.....

As chance would have it..i went with my then club academy to play Bolton U-16's academy....and it was actually the same tactics..they were 1-0 after 15 or so minutes and  allardyce was on the line next to his coach ( a big black lad called Tony if anyone knows him) at one point with about 3-4 minutes to go the ball went out near their coach and he went to kick it back to our player to take the throw and allardyce went off on one at him and actually kicked the ball over a wall that surrounded the academy...

Fast Forward to Alalrdyce at Blackburn and hey presto exactly the same tactics at goodison as the Bolton game...

hopefully this is NOT what we're signing up to !!
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 28, 2017, 09:59:09 PM
If you have limited players , you have limited tactics

At Everton he will have some good players , and the tactics and football will be able to reflect it
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: formerKHL on November 28, 2017, 10:12:55 PM
If you have limited players , you have limited tactics

At Everton he will have some good players , and the tactics and football will be able to reflect it

at Bolton they finished 6th one year and was in the EUFA cup !! ask west ham fans why they didn't like him..so he did have the players at the time to work with..his style of football is dire...
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 28, 2017, 10:17:43 PM
Itís a well established fact gold & Sullivan didnít back him financially

This is widely reported

They where more concerned with getting the new stadium and saving any money for a lengthy legal battle to get the stadium and stop spurs and Leyton orient
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Goaljira on November 28, 2017, 10:20:30 PM
He's grown a mustache, is chewing gum and his shirt is unbuttoned to mid-chest. There may be a message in that.

He's joined a cartel by the sounds of that description.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 28, 2017, 10:24:04 PM
Thats assuming a lot that you are only likely to do well in this job if you have shown something in England. Southampton were in trouble, doing ok as could expect with Adkins sacked him and got Pochettino, he got them playing really well and kept them up. He then finished 8th, Spurs gambled and are getting the rewards. Garde didnt work, maybe he was a bad manager? Maybe Fonseca is a bad manager I dont know, but if he is good then just because he hasnt managed in England yet doesnt mean he shouldnt be capable of pushing us up the league. Likewise if he is good there is much more chance of us achieving something moving forward than Allardyce.

Aside from that, Garde's record as a manager before Villa was only at Lyon;

11/12 - Finished 4th, 18 points behind winners Montpellier. Did win the cup.
12/13 - Finished 3rd
13/14 - Finished 5th

They finished 2nd the two following seasons after he was there, maybe he was doing a bad job?

Fonseca (speaks fluent english) top flight record up to now;

12/13 - Pacos Ferreira - 3rd - Qualified for CL for their first time ever when they had finished 10th the year before
13/14 - Porto - Sacked in March when they were 3rd
14/15 - Pacos Ferreira - 8th
15/16 - Braga - 4th. Won the cup
16/17 - Shakthar - Won the league and cup (Kiev won the league for previous 2 seasons)

It's a mixed bag with not doing well at Porto but there are some very good things in there and much more of a scope for people who scout managers for a living to look at someone and say how they might do as opposed to Remi Garde.
Season hasn't got going, players out of form, worst defence in the league, no striker worthy of the name, horribly constructed squad and a toxic atmosphere around games. I's a tough ask for a bright young manager with no knowledge of the English game to come in and make the difference. Of course he may well do but he looks like he might be the right appointment at the wrong time. I think a perceived 'safety first' mentality, with a very expensive new stadium in the offing, has won the day on this one.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 28, 2017, 10:27:04 PM
11/10 on William Hill currently

Set me account up , and the price is only 4/6

No 11/10 lad

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: D15TIN on November 28, 2017, 11:31:22 PM
Paul Joyce has just confirmed it - will be completed by tomorrow night
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 28, 2017, 11:36:09 PM
Set me account up , and the price is only 4/6

No 11/10 lad

It was at the time I posted. Been fluctuating all day.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on November 28, 2017, 11:36:28 PM
Paul Joyce has just confirmed it - will be completed by tomorrow night

Where?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 28, 2017, 11:37:39 PM
Welcome aboard

https://twitter.com/EvertonNewsFeed/status/935230442357362689
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 28, 2017, 11:40:25 PM
Where?
The Times
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 28, 2017, 11:43:00 PM
The Times
What, in tomorrow's edition ?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 28, 2017, 11:44:54 PM
What, in tomorrow's edition ?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/everton-aim-to-appoint-sam-allardyce-as-manager-by-tomorrow-evening-t89dshc8n
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 28, 2017, 11:46:26 PM
What, in tomorrow's edition ?
It's a big world this Internet yano
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: blueToffee on November 28, 2017, 11:46:33 PM
Another manager who is so excited to join he's not going to interrupt his holidays.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 28, 2017, 11:47:34 PM
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/everton-aim-to-appoint-sam-allardyce-as-manager-by-tomorrow-evening-t89dshc8n

Paul Joyce doesn't confirm anything in that article, he says "aim" to complete signing tomorrow.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 28, 2017, 11:52:47 PM
Paul Joyce doesn't confirm anything in that article, he says "aim" to complete signing tomorrow.
I know, but it's the answer to the question asked by @Duncs_a_legend (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=598)
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ross on November 28, 2017, 11:52:51 PM
Another manager who is so excited to join he's not going to interrupt his holidays.

They wonít want to introduce him to the crowd at halftime in case he goes all Niasse and does a lap of the centre circle and collapses mid jog.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 28, 2017, 11:55:16 PM
Welcome (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171128/e3e4817bb69f4b948fdbc62de09d801b.jpg)
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 28, 2017, 11:56:57 PM
Welcome (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171128/e3e4817bb69f4b948fdbc62de09d801b.jpg)

Did @Bally (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=19) give his head a welcome hug?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 29, 2017, 12:01:01 AM
Another manager who is so excited to join he's not going to interrupt his holidays.

How do you know that ? Has he been signed ?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: penguinofdoom1878 on November 29, 2017, 12:02:00 AM
From hoping for a top 4 challenge in June to attempting to convince ourselves Allardyce is in anyway a good option for us in November. My goodness how far we've fallen. Awful appointment every way its looked at.

Sam Allardyce never has been and never will be good enough for this club. We are 1 win from 11th we do not need Sam Allardyce, just a sheer no ambition panic appointment.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: boothill on November 29, 2017, 12:03:18 AM
at Bolton they finished 6th one year and was in the EUFA cup !! ask west ham fans why they didn't like him..so he did have the players at the time to work with..his style of football is dire...
That was in the times teams could still kick shit out of each other, and his bolton team were dirty cheating bastards, giving it out in spades then rolling around like a seal pup when you went near them. his teams have done fuck all since football as become less of a contact sport. i despise the corrupt , cheating cunt, but i will still follow everton, because as much as it drives me crazy, i still love it
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: gizzblue on November 29, 2017, 12:05:18 AM
Fucking joe Royle won't have the biggest hat size at goodison anymore ....Sams Side of beef is way bigger ....but in all honestly I think Royle is probably the better manager .
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: bluenuck on November 29, 2017, 12:07:37 AM
From hoping for a top 4 challenge in June to attempting to convince ourselves Allardyce is in anyway a good option for us in November. My goodness how far we've fallen. Awful appointment every way its looked at.

Sam Allardyce never has been and never will be good enough for this club. We are 1 win from 11th we do not need Sam Allardyce, just a sheer no ambition panic appointment.

I'm not defending the appointment, but more the "panic appointment" thinking.

If this were a panic appointment he would have been in charge weeks ago imo.

I believe, and it's been said by Alan Meyers that they looked at up to 12 managers for the job, that they did do their due diligence but were basically left with Allardyce. They couldn't pry away managers working already because of many reasons. And Guys like Tuchel probably didn't want the job...

Moshiri, Walsh, the players, the club, have no one to blame but themselves for putting the club in this predicament.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: everton1952 on November 29, 2017, 12:10:42 AM
From hoping for a top 4 challenge in June to attempting to convince ourselves Allardyce is in anyway a good option for us in November. My goodness how far we've fallen. Awful appointment every way its looked at.

Sam Allardyce never has been and never will be good enough for this club. We are 1 win from 11th we do not need Sam Allardyce, just a sheer no ambition panic appointment.
Oh ! We are one win from 11th so there is no problem. Presumably leave Unsworth to get on with his successful run?  No need for panic. Tell that to everyone on here and put it to a vote.  Panic or no panic.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on November 29, 2017, 12:37:36 AM
With this and Harry's wedding i'm over the moon.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 12:38:21 AM
https://twitter.com/the85s/status/935334507925950465
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Toddacelli on November 29, 2017, 12:39:01 AM
Fuck.

Thought the lad in work was winding me up. Shot straight on here. Wish I hadn't bothered.

Double fuck.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Heisenberg on November 29, 2017, 12:45:15 AM
So looks like it will be Allardyce because this Fonsesca turned us down. The board don't even want him! this is absolutely awful. If we give him a contract longer than 18 months  Im done with everton (Im not really but I hope this threat shows how pissed off I am)
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: brap2 on November 29, 2017, 12:52:57 AM
This appointment is truly showing the wheat from the yer daís.

Iíve decided the two most Everton timelines would be :

get Fonseca, rejoice, be relegated.

Get Sam, get your head around it and even argue the toss with reds, be relegated for the first time in his career. Bonus points for yet another Everton first.

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Smingers on November 29, 2017, 12:53:01 AM
Has this been confirmed?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: bluenuck on November 29, 2017, 12:53:11 AM
So looks like it will be Allardyce because this Fonsesca turned us down. The board don't even want him! this is absolutely awful. If we give him a contract longer than 18 months  Im done with everton (Im not really but I hope this threat shows how pissed off I am)

Be ready for a 2 1/2 year deal.

But you know Moshiri will dump him this summer if the right manager wants the job.

The next manager(after Allardyce) must work. If not it's going to start hurting us in the players we can afford.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Confucius on November 29, 2017, 01:07:06 AM
Has this been confirmed?

Since when do we need confirmation to froth at the mouth
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: blueski on November 29, 2017, 01:11:00 AM
so much for barkley staying then

he will be out the door for sure - if he wasn't inspired by the former barcelona star can't see him staying to work with big sam
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Bluedylan on November 29, 2017, 01:13:10 AM
Once Joyce weighs in, it's usually a done deal.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Seahawk on November 29, 2017, 01:16:06 AM
Be ready for a 2 1/2 year deal.

But you know Moshiri will dump him this summer if the right manager wants the job.

The next manager(after Allardyce) must work. If not it's going to start hurting us in the players we can afford.
Got to agree with this.
We can write this season off and concentrate now on steadying the ship. Allardyce can and probably will do that. Moshri will more than likely show him the door after this season is over, if there is the right man available and willing to come. The only reason that won't happen is if Big Sam actually does a brilliant job. Either way, his appointment (if true) is something we probably need at present.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: GLewis on November 29, 2017, 01:23:14 AM
Once Joyce weighs in, it's usually a done deal.

Canít believe he doesnít know about Fonseca ;)
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on November 29, 2017, 01:29:13 AM
Bet it's gone up to 3 years for keeping the twat waiting.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Sixx1402 on November 29, 2017, 01:30:13 AM
The way I look at it is this:

Big Sam is probably not the man to take us where we want to go and the football will be questionable at best.

However those on here saying we're not in trouble clearly haven't watched the last few games. We are BANG in trouble. If it continues and we actually did get relegated it would all be over, probably for a few years at least. Moshiri may fuck off and we'd be left in the shit.

Now if Sam gets us to a decent league position and then moshiri has the nuts to drop him at the end of the season and pay him off so we can get a long term appointment in then it's all good as far as I'm concerned.

If he does amazing and we end up in a Europe spot then it's win win.

At the end of the day this club cannot be relegated as the consequences will be dire so that has to be the main aim of this bullshit written off season now.

We can regroup at the end when we've (hopefully) stayed up.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2017, 01:34:41 AM
Bet it's gone up to 3 years for keeping the twat waiting.

It might be longer, Moshiri said a couple of weeks back they wanted the new manager to be here for the next 5 years.

Wonder how all those who are happy about this think of that?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on November 29, 2017, 01:39:26 AM
It might be longer, Moshiri said a couple of weeks back they wanted the new manager to be here for the next 5 years.

Wonder how all those who are happy about this think of that?
Well we are beggars now so if we stay up the Mosh can ditch him, but if we go down he would be a good championship manager, if he does fantastic we might want him to stay...wierd times
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2017, 01:40:29 AM
I'll take Allardyce for 6mnths if there's a silva, fonseca etc at the end of this hell
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Smingers on November 29, 2017, 01:41:51 AM
Love all this we can ditch him after we stay up brigade. If he does sign and keep us up, knowing Everton we will probably give him a 5 year extension and a statue outside the ground.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: bluenuck on November 29, 2017, 01:44:06 AM
It might be longer, Moshiri said a couple of weeks back they wanted the new manager to be here for the next 5 years.

Wonder how all those who are happy about this think of that?

Be hard pressed to find anyone really happy with his appointment.

Would people want a manager like Tuchel or Favre instead, but are willing to accept his appointment because of what we've become on the field and don't want to be relegated? yes

Happy? No

Big difference.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2017, 01:45:13 AM
Love all this we can ditch him after we stay up brigade. If he does sign and keep us up, knowing Everton we will probably give him a 5 year extension and a statue outside the ground.

False economy and the sort of business planning that gets clubs into real deep trouble.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2017, 01:46:26 AM
Be hard pressed to find anyone really happy with his appointment.

Would people want a manager like Tuchel or Favre instead, but are willing to accept his appointment because of what we've become on the field and don't want to be relegated? yes

Happy? No

Big difference.

I donít think youíve been paying enough attention if you canít see some people are happy with this.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on November 29, 2017, 01:48:24 AM
Imagine being lead on twice by a struggling Everton. I'd laugh my head off if we announced Fonseca whilst Allardyce is waiting for the phone call back from us.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 01:53:45 AM
Imagine being lead on twice by a struggling Everton. I'd laugh my head off if we announced Fonseca whilst Allardyce is waiting for the phone call back from us.

Would be wonderful
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 29, 2017, 02:02:39 AM
Autism fucking rife on here
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ell Capitan on November 29, 2017, 02:05:15 AM
I think a  reason a lot of people are against this appointment is that it's a small time move. So called big clubs would never appoint Sam. It's a bit of a kick to the old ego.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on November 29, 2017, 02:05:57 AM
Autism fucking rife on here

Huh?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: brap2 on November 29, 2017, 02:06:43 AM
I think a  reason a lot of people are against this appointment is that it's a small time move. So called big clubs would never appoint Sam. It's a bit of a kick to the old ego.

Final nail in the Nothing Club coffin.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 29, 2017, 02:07:12 AM
Once Joyce weighs in, it's usually a done deal.
Yep, gets his info directly from Kenwright.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: bluenuck on November 29, 2017, 02:07:49 AM
I donít think youíve been paying enough attention if you canít see some people are happy with this.

Well, I don't read any twitter threads, and I haven't seen anyone over the moon about it on here yet.

All I've read on here is that people think it might be what this team needs as of right now, but...

Maybe you can show me where people are happy with his appointment. Not accepting of it, but actually happy with it. Like fuckin celebrating it like happy people do when their happy about something.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Mayor Farnum on November 29, 2017, 02:11:32 AM
I think a  reason a lot of people are against this appointment is that it's a small time move. So called big clubs would never appoint Sam. It's a bit of a kick to the old ego.

Maybe we should have told some of the other candidates we are a big club.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 29, 2017, 02:14:11 AM
I think a  reason a lot of people are against this appointment is that it's a small time move. So called big clubs would never appoint Sam. It's a bit of a kick to the old ego.
But big clubs (assuming you mean the top 6) wouldnít be in this position in the first place, and if they were, the new manager would have a top squad to work with.

But agree it is a kick in the ego which is why some people canít handle the fact this season is a write-off and is purely about survival. Still loads of denial.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Mayor Farnum on November 29, 2017, 02:14:15 AM
Well, I don't read any twitter threads, and I haven't seen anyone over the moon about it on here yet.

All I've read on here is that people think it might be what this team needs as of right now, but...

Maybe you can show me where people are happy with his appointment. Not accepting of it, but actually happy with it. Like fuckin celebrating it like happy people do when their happy about something.

Cough cough.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 29, 2017, 02:15:44 AM
Well, I don't read any twitter threads, and I haven't seen anyone over the moon about it on here yet.

All I've read on here is that people think it might be what this team needs as of right now, but...

Maybe you can show me where people are happy with his appointment. Not accepting of it, but actually happy with it. Like fuckin celebrating it like happy people do when their happy about something.
Agree, there is a clear distinction.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: bluenuck on November 29, 2017, 02:19:38 AM
Cough cough.

lol

I've seen you advocate him. Never seen you think he should be our first choice though.

Is he your first choice?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2017, 02:24:52 AM
Well, I don't read any twitter threads, and I haven't seen anyone over the moon about it on here yet.

All I've read on here is that people think it might be what this team needs as of right now, but...

Maybe you can show me where people are happy with his appointment. Not accepting of it, but actually happy with it. Like fuckin celebrating it like happy people do when their happy about something.

Itís bad enough reading once Iím not going over it for you because you canít be arsed.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: SANA_DR0 on November 29, 2017, 02:25:00 AM
Love all this we can ditch him after we stay up brigade. If he does sign and keep us up, knowing Everton we will probably give him a 5 year extension and a statue outside the ground.

Welcome to NSNO Mr Allardyce.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Mayor Farnum on November 29, 2017, 02:26:00 AM
lol

I've seen you advocate him. Never seen you think he should be our first choice though.

Is he your first choice?

Pretty much, partly due to circumstances but I also think he's never had a real go at a top club with potential to operate at the top end of the league.

I worked in Bolton when he was their manager and he is a fierce competitor and will defend his club to the hilt.

If we give him a chance and get behind him we may be surprised.

I've seen a lot of football and the advantage of being a successful team is that you can pretty much write your own reviews. There is a lot more long ball football about and some of it played by very successful teams.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: GLewis on November 29, 2017, 02:26:09 AM
Yep, gets his info directly from Kenwright.

Maybe BK isnít aware that FM is after appointing someone else...
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: bluenuck on November 29, 2017, 02:29:38 AM
Itís bad enough reading once Iím not going over it for you because you canít be arsed.

Expected response... ;)
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: bluenuck on November 29, 2017, 02:31:04 AM
Pretty much, partly due to circumstances but I also think he's never had a real go at a top club with potential to operate at the top end of the league.

I worked in Bolton when he was their manager and he is a fierce competitor and will defend his club to the hilt.

If we give him a chance and get behind him we may be surprised.

I've seen a lot of football and the advantage of being a successful team is that you can pretty much write your own reviews. There is a lot more long ball football about and some of it played by very successful teams.

Well, it's the first I've seen of an Evertonian actually wanting this appointment.

 :)
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Mayor Farnum on November 29, 2017, 02:33:54 AM
9 voted for him in the poll. Am I the only one brave enough to put my head above the parapet? I need my own version of rainbow laces.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Smingers on November 29, 2017, 02:47:20 AM
I hope the lack of announcement up to now signals that it's not happening... I can only hope

I hope we thrash West Ham tomorrow... I can only hope
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: blue slug on November 29, 2017, 02:51:24 AM
9 voted for him in the poll. Am I the only one brave enough to put my head above the parapet? I need my own version of rainbow laces.

I didnít vote for him originally but Iíd take him now for sure
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: plumber on November 29, 2017, 02:55:08 AM
I didnít vote for him originally but Iíd take him now for sure

Me too.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: mikey_blue on November 29, 2017, 02:55:32 AM
9 voted for him in the poll. Am I the only one brave enough to put my head above the parapet? I need my own version of rainbow laces.

I'm with you mate. I'd of happily given this Fonseca the job, if it was the start of the season and I was still full of wonderment and optimism, but we're in the trenches now, and we need a ruddy big Northerner to bark at this spineless bunch of wasters to get them in shape. Save the good-looking managers with the slick haircuts for the summer.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Rhys on November 29, 2017, 02:58:24 AM
I'm with you mate. I'd of happily given this Fonseca the job, if it was the start of the season and I was still full of wonderment and optimism, but we're in the trenches now, and we need a ruddy big Northerner to bark at this spineless bunch of wasters to get them in shape. Save the good-looking managers with the slick haircuts for the summer.

We've had one of them for the last few weeks and that's not gone so well...
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 29, 2017, 02:59:32 AM
Rooney is loving the Big Sam appointment, he knows we have got ourselves a quality manager who will take us to the top end of the league and challenge for trophyís.


Welcome to Goodison Park Samuel Allardyce
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Smingers on November 29, 2017, 03:01:24 AM
Can we save the welcomes until it's announced? Unless I'm missing something?

Unless that was sarcasm? I'm a bit delicate at the moment lol! Proper fuming with our club!
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on November 29, 2017, 03:02:47 AM
Once Allardyce leaves the club, we will be back to square one, scouring many managers who have no intention of joining the club. I think it's only a brief rest bite in delaying the inevitable, with the current hierarchical structure in place, we'll be relegated next season or the season after.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 29, 2017, 03:03:52 AM
9 voted for him in the poll. Am I the only one brave enough to put my head above the parapet? I need my own version of rainbow laces.
Hey brother
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: mikey_blue on November 29, 2017, 03:04:27 AM
We've had one of them for the last few weeks and that's not gone so well...

Do you not think he'd be able to sort them out?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 29, 2017, 03:05:07 AM
Once Allardyce leaves the club, we will be back to square one, scouring many managers who have no intention of joining the club. I think it's only a brief rest bite in delaying the inevitable, with the current hierarchical structure in place, we'll be relegated next season or the season after.
Mate

Whatever you're going through, call us free any time, from any phone on 116 123.

Give them a call
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on November 29, 2017, 03:06:47 AM
Mate

Whatever you're going through, call us free any time, from any phone on 116 123.

Give them a call

You're a bellend yano.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2017, 03:12:31 AM
It would be amazing if moshiri trumps kenwright here
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: TheRam on November 29, 2017, 03:12:39 AM
https://twitter.com/sean_lunt/status/935589771023446016

I recommend everyone reads this thread.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: penguinofdoom1878 on November 29, 2017, 03:14:30 AM
I'm not defending the appointment, but more the "panic appointment" thinking.

If this were a panic appointment he would have been in charge weeks ago imo.

I believe, and it's been said by Alan Meyers that they looked at up to 12 managers for the job, that they did do their due diligence but were basically left with Allardyce. They couldn't pry away managers working already because of many reasons. And Guys like Tuchel probably didn't want the job...

Moshiri, Walsh, the players, the club, have no one to blame but themselves for putting the club in this predicament.

Thanks for the response, wasn't aware of the Alan Meyers comment. Its an awful painful situation we are in, I dont want him anywhere near us, but I have resigned myself to it and will back the side while hes here.

Sam Allardyce, Everton manager though jebus
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on November 29, 2017, 03:14:50 AM
Mate

Whatever you're going through, call us free any time, from any phone on 116 123.

Give them a call

No. Best you keep that number for the next 12-24 months whilst wiping those tears away.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: plumber on November 29, 2017, 03:15:22 AM
This drama queens fest is getting boring lads.
WhatĎs done is done (if it's really done). Those who want to kill themselves, poke their eyes with a rusty nail or cut their balls off, do it. Those who donĎt, accept it and give him a chance.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Brownie on November 29, 2017, 03:17:43 AM
Rooney is loving the Big Sam appointment, he knows we have got ourselves a quality manager who will take us to the top end of the league and challenge for trophyís.


Welcome to Goodison Park Samuel Allardyce

I've never understood the attraction of trolling. Is everything ok at home with you? You not getting the attention you need?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Mayor Farnum on November 29, 2017, 03:18:39 AM
https://twitter.com/sean_lunt/status/935589771023446016

I recommend everyone reads this thread.

Yes I mean Sunderland and Palace were running along nicely before he turned up.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 29, 2017, 03:19:20 AM
Well, I don't read any twitter threads, and I haven't seen anyone over the moon about it on here yet.

All I've read on here is that people think it might be what this team needs as of right now, but...

Maybe you can show me where people are happy with his appointment. Not accepting of it, but actually happy with it. Like fuckin celebrating it like happy people do when their happy about something.

I am happy that we have appointed a manager.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: plumber on November 29, 2017, 03:19:24 AM
By the way, talking about stats and our first choice Silva. We have conceded 28 goals, Watford 24. Defense was a bit shitty in every club he managed. Considering the main issue now is sorting out our terrible defending, he doesn't look like a great choice, does he?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 03:28:29 AM
https://twitter.com/sean_lunt/status/935589771023446016

I recommend everyone reads this thread.

Scary shit that
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Gash on November 29, 2017, 03:32:08 AM
Rooney is loving the Big Sam appointment, he knows we have got ourselves a quality manager who will take us to the top end of the league and challenge for trophyís.


Welcome to Goodison Park Samuel Allardyce

As a WUM you're being too obvious now.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: BlueBeagle on November 29, 2017, 03:37:59 AM
Whooooaaaaaa Sammy Sammy
Sammy Sammy Sammy Sammy Allerdyyyyyce
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: van der Meyde on November 29, 2017, 03:38:49 AM
Yes I mean Sunderland and Palace were running along nicely before he turned up.
Aye. It's all useless without context.

At least we've all watched Allardyce's teams and can try to put these in to context.

A similar thread on Fonseca would be absolutely meaningless as pretty much none of us have watched his teams fucking play regularly.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: BlueBeagle on November 29, 2017, 03:40:45 AM
Does anyone think a manager who has only really managed lower half PL teams is going to have a 70% win rate for fuck sake? Let's get real for a minute.

I don't want him but the world's hardly caved in if he does come.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: april on November 29, 2017, 03:42:38 AM
Prepare to win the Grand Slam...
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Shropshire Blue on November 29, 2017, 04:07:32 AM
Autism fucking rife on here
Care to explain that one?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Confucius on November 29, 2017, 04:26:01 AM
@GrantyBoy78 (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=332) What was that autism comment about. Bull shit mate.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 29, 2017, 04:28:13 AM
https://twitter.com/sean_lunt/status/935589771023446016

I recommend everyone reads this thread.

What a sad life poor Sean must lead to have nothing better to do with his life than troll such shit as that out.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 29, 2017, 04:28:21 AM
https://twitter.com/DominicKing_DM/status/935635880689192961
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2017, 04:28:54 AM
Sammy Lee, Shakespeare And Duncan Ferguson His Backroom Staff
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Goaljira on November 29, 2017, 04:30:33 AM
https://twitter.com/DominicKing_DM/status/935635880689192961

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 29, 2017, 04:31:47 AM
It should be a stipulation that Sammy Lee is not allowed anywhere near this club. What next, Kevin Nolan as 1st team coach?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: ally2 on November 29, 2017, 04:32:20 AM
Is Sammy Lee supposed to be the good cop then?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: TheRam on November 29, 2017, 04:32:23 AM
What a sad life poor Sean must lead to have nothing better to do with his life than troll such shit as that out.

Shit or facts?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: ally2 on November 29, 2017, 04:33:02 AM
It should be a stipulation that Sammy Lee is not allowed anywhere near this club. What next, Kevin Nolan as 1st team coach?

Stevie G to replace Unsworth in the U23s
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: toshyboy on November 29, 2017, 04:33:36 AM
Autism fucking rife on here

What a disgraceful and ignorant comment
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 29, 2017, 04:33:54 AM
Such a shame that this is on. Weíve been let down badly on this.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: TheRam on November 29, 2017, 04:34:38 AM
He's taking the absolute piss out of us.

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 29, 2017, 04:37:40 AM
https://twitter.com/EvertonNewsFeed/status/935636946742841344
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 29, 2017, 04:37:51 AM
He's taking the absolute piss out of us.

O.k. If that shit about  Sammy Lee is true that's it, I will do a 180 degree turn and shout from the barricades I don't want this cunt anywhere near our club, if it's not true I'm willing to give him a chance.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2017, 04:41:05 AM
Sammy Lee is a loyal Allardyce lieutenant why would anyone be surprised if heís coming?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Smingers on November 29, 2017, 04:43:11 AM
I'm gonna wait til morning now to make any more comments. Thank you and good night
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 04:47:00 AM
Allardyce supporters still happy then? Sammy fucking Lee, absolutely ridiculous, as if already wasnt embarrassing enough, Moshiri and the rest of the clowns quite clearly don't give a flying fuck about the fans.
Title: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: ally2 on November 29, 2017, 04:50:03 AM
Aww. He's only ickle.

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Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jamokachi on November 29, 2017, 04:52:02 AM
Sammy fucking Lee. I could be done here, lads.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: TheRam on November 29, 2017, 04:52:47 AM
Dissapointed with the amount of people who are happy with this.

It's a sad day for the club and the start of an eventual decline for me.

I just hope Moshiri gets rid no matter what at the end of the season and learns from this whole debacle otherwise we face a very bleak few years.

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 04:55:10 AM
Struggling to see any positives at all, we've been through a lot of shit over the years but this is by far the worst, its an actual piss take
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2017, 05:09:11 AM
Genuinely interested to see how our pr team turn this cos, let's face it, 90 percent of our fans are uninspired or fuming
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on November 29, 2017, 05:11:00 AM
I think we should have done more particularly when Kings Dock never materialised and Rooney was sold. Mass protests needed to happen then to get rid of Kenwright. We needed to act like kopites. He's an abject failure of a man and this just epitomises his regard for the supporters.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: fubarruk on November 29, 2017, 05:17:54 AM
I'm still clinging to the tiniest shred of hope that this won't happen and it's all just a bad dream.

Make this appointment the club dies, and a big part of my love for it dies with it.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: bluestevie on November 29, 2017, 05:23:32 AM
Fuck sake, I was merely vomiting at the thought of that corrupt prick being in charge as it was, I'm at Exorcist levels now at the news that Kopite gremlin might be joining him
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: ally2 on November 29, 2017, 05:27:40 AM
Allardyce is simply a vehicle to channel discontent. It's hard to admit but the sooner fans are honest with themselves and realise that, the better.

We've got money now. We need to be patient and get behind the club and stop taking pot shots at anyone at the club we can think of. IT DOES NOT HELP IN ANY WAY.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Rhys on November 29, 2017, 05:28:49 AM
Figures being talked about of what we will be paying him is 6m a year. Outside of the elite managers in the world, surely most managers for 6m a year would come to us even in this state? He'll be around the top 10 paid managers in the world, crazy.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Shropshire Blue on November 29, 2017, 05:30:52 AM
Struggling to see any positives at all, we've been through a lot of shit over the years but this is by far the worst, its an actual piss take
Look down the football pyramid and see what is below.  We don't know what 'shit' is at this club.
We may not be in a good place at the moment but, believe me, it doesn't come remotely close to what many others have been through.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2017, 05:33:20 AM
Figures being talked about of what we will be paying him is 6m a year. Outside of the elite managers in the world, surely most managers for 6m a year would come to us even in this state? He'll be around the top 10 paid managers in the world, crazy.
*dies inside*
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 29, 2017, 05:34:56 AM
We complain about WUMs on the forum, but the truth is the biggest WUMs are the media.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: D_murph0278 on November 29, 2017, 05:37:34 AM
I'm finished with Everton Football Club.
This is an absolute piss take of an outcome and one which would never happen with an Everton man in charge.
Kenwright may never have had the money that Moshiri has, but it's quite clear the shambolic decision making that's gone on and is potentially going to kill my relationship with the club I loved in these next 48 hours (Allardyce and Sammy Lee) is Moshiri's doing. Not that they'll give a fuck like..... but how can you fail to recognise the scumb bag that Allardyce has been and has be-friended his whole rotten piss stained football career. Sammy Lee, El hadji Diouf, Kevin Nolan, etc etc.
Never again for me.

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 29, 2017, 05:41:28 AM
I'm finished with Everton Football Club.
This is an absolute piss take of an outcome and one which would never happen with an Everton man in charge.
Kenwright may never have had the money that Moshiri has, but it's quite clear the shambolic decision making that's gone on and is potentially going to kill my relationship with the club I loved in these next 48 hours (Allardyce and Sammy Lee) is Moshiri's doing. Not that they'll give a fuck like..... but how can you fail to recognise the scumb bag that Allardyce has been and has be-friended his whole rotten piss stained football career. Sammy Lee, El hadji Diouf, Kevin Nolan, etc etc.
Never again for me.



Don't go away forever. Be ready to support whatever arises from the ashes, whatever division it might be in.

But every Evertonian has every right not to recognize an Allardyce regime as the least bit legitimate. It's a crime against the values Everton Football Club is supposed to stand for. The people's club. OUR club.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: blueToffee on November 29, 2017, 05:45:03 AM
I'm finished with Everton Football Club.
This is an absolute piss take of an outcome and one which would never happen with an Everton man in charge.
Kenwright may never have had the money that Moshiri has, but it's quite clear the shambolic decision making that's gone on and is potentially going to kill my relationship with the club I loved in these next 48 hours (Allardyce and Sammy Lee) is Moshiri's doing. Not that they'll give a fuck like..... but how can you fail to recognise the scumb bag that Allardyce has been and has be-friended his whole rotten piss stained football career. Sammy Lee, El hadji Diouf, Kevin Nolan, etc etc.
Never again for me.



I don't think this is Moshiri's doing. If we're to believe the rumours that have come out during this process it was Moshiri who was after the bigger name, Silva, Fonseca (whisper it but Simeone). It was Kenwright who wanted Dyche, not sure on Kenwright's position on Allardyce but definitely he was Steve Walsh's choice it would seem.

Kenwright has never spread the net very far when it has come to a mangerial search either. Moyes, Martinez, Koeman...these were all PL managers.

Frankly I think the mistakes that were made, the decision to go with Unsworth, bringing back Rooney is where having sentimentality overrule good decisions.

It's not about having an Everton man in charge (even that would be nice) but having competent people in charge.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 29, 2017, 05:54:02 AM
Come on, folks.

Can we at least wait until it happens before we disavow the club for all time?

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Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: D_murph0278 on November 29, 2017, 06:02:06 AM
I don't think this is Moshiri's doing. If we're to believe the rumours that have come out during this process it was Moshiri who was after the bigger name, Silva, Fonseca (whisper it but Simeone). It was Kenwright who wanted Dyche, not sure on Kenwright's position on Allardyce but definitely he was Steve Walsh's choice it would seem.

Kenwright has never spread the net very far when it has come to a mangerial search either. Moyes, Martinez, Koeman...these were all PL managers.

Frankly I think the mistakes that were made, the decision to go with Unsworth, bringing back Rooney is where having sentimentality overrule good decisions.

It's not about having an Everton man in charge (even that would be nice) but having competent people in charge.

"Competent people"?
So let's have any fucker who'll get us a few wins eh?
I'd rather have Brendan Fucking Rogers than this twat and his Piss drinking assistant Sami Lee. Sami fucking Lee!!!
Just say it back to yourself and then envisage him in the home dugout with his Everton tracksuit on. This cunt is on the same level as the likes of Phil Thompson and Ian Rush and as a result it's no longer my club. I've thought football is dead for a while now..... I'm fucking certain now.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 29, 2017, 06:02:35 AM
I'm finished with Everton Football Club.
This is an absolute piss take of an outcome and one which would never happen with an Everton man in charge.
Kenwright may never have had the money that Moshiri has, but it's quite clear the shambolic decision making that's gone on and is potentially going to kill my relationship with the club I loved in these next 48 hours (Allardyce and Sammy Lee) is Moshiri's doing. Not that they'll give a fuck like..... but how can you fail to recognise the scumb bag that Allardyce has been and has be-friended his whole rotten piss stained football career. Sammy Lee, El hadji Diouf, Kevin Nolan, etc etc.
Never again for me.

If your serious can you hand me your season ticket?
If not, please see early post with Samaritans hotline number on
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Brownie on November 29, 2017, 06:08:30 AM
Is it any wonder some of the players have a lack of fight if this is how people who support the club act when faced with adversity?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: brap2 on November 29, 2017, 06:12:13 AM
Sammy Lee mate this is unreal, Thatcher for goalkeeping coach next.

P.s anyone getting mad at the sam stats arenít reading them. The big picture is he will (probably) keep us up, itíll just be a very expensive, turgid season. But, we will be up hopefully.

P.s still working on that positive Sam list.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: toffeeglas on November 29, 2017, 06:12:46 AM
Figures being talked about of what we will be paying him is 6m a year. Outside of the elite managers in the world, surely most managers for 6m a year would come to us even in this state? He'll be around the top 10 paid managers in the world, crazy.
Exactly what I thought. Is allardyce on more than koeman was on? Absolutely crazy. Better be a short contract
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: D_murph0278 on November 29, 2017, 06:17:11 AM
Is it any wonder some of the players have a lack of fight if this is how people who support the club act when faced with adversity?

We're not quite there yet, but it's imminent . So these players you mention with a lack of fight have no excuse. They've been shocking all season and some (Schneiderlen and Williams) since they walked through the door.
They're meant to give me reason to spend my hard earnt money to come and watch them play.... not the other way around you deluded f**k.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: blueToffee on November 29, 2017, 06:19:48 AM

"Competent people"?
So let's have any fucker who'll get us a few wins eh?
I'd rather have Brendan Fucking Rogers than this twat and his Piss drinking assistant Sami Lee. Sami fucking Lee!!!
Just say it back to yourself and then envisage him in the home dugout with his Everton tracksuit on. This cunt is on the same level as the likes of Phil Thompson and Ian Rush and as a result it's no longer my club. I've thought football is dead for a while now..... I'm fucking certain now.

I meant competent people at board level. That was not meant to be defence of picking Allardyce.

My response was only that I don't think it was Moshiri who wanted Allardyce...if he did this process would've been over weeks ago. He wanted the bigger name, or at least a more progressive name (see the money we were throwing at Watford to get that deal done) and I think it was Walsh and quite possibly Kenwright who wanted the Dyche or Allardyce types. He probably just feels he has to acquiesce at this point to others after the drubbings and take an available name.

I certainly think Moshiri has his faults, but I think he is dreaming of bigger things. He just probably doesn't know how to get there.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Gash on November 29, 2017, 06:20:27 AM
Figures being talked about of what we will be paying him is 6m a year. Outside of the elite managers in the world, surely most managers for 6m a year would come to us even in this state? He'll be around the top 10 paid managers in the world, crazy.

If that's right it just smacks of another Tony Fernandes style move by Moshiri, chucking world class money at average people.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: blueToffee on November 29, 2017, 06:23:46 AM
If that's right it just smacks of another Tony Fernandes style move by Moshiri, chucking world class money at average people.

We desperately need a better/proper Director of Football in. Moshiri is willing to spend, but he needs direction. If Walsh is saying the answer is Allardyce, we need him out if we're serious about moving on and building this club into something better.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: bluenuck on November 29, 2017, 06:24:07 AM
Is it any wonder some of the players have a lack of fight if this is how people who support the club act when faced with adversity?

Bang on!!

This season has shown the true colours of some of our fans.

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: D_murph0278 on November 29, 2017, 06:33:22 AM
Bang on!!

This season has shown the true colours of some of our fans.

Do me a favour.....
I've sat through multiple seasons of shit in years gone by.
This cunt about to take over, is top or near enough, of names who I don't want anywhere near Everton Football Club.
His assistant 'to be, is pretty much top of that list.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: toffeeglas on November 29, 2017, 07:03:32 AM
Bang on!!

This season has shown the true colours of some of our fans.
Itís the hope that kills you, lads. At least weíll know better next time we Ďwin the transfer windowí
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: bluenuck on November 29, 2017, 07:04:42 AM

Do me a favour.....
I've sat through multiple seasons of shit in years gone by.
This cunt about to take over, is top or near enough, of names who I don't want anywhere near Everton Football Club.
His assistant 'to be, is pretty much top of that list.

I don't know mate. Maybe it's because I'm all the way over in Vancouver and don't have to, and never had to, live with kopites.

Ex players over here coach any team that's willing to take them on. No matter who they played for.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Tinga on November 29, 2017, 07:15:16 AM
It feels like somebody has died.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: cantoffee on November 29, 2017, 07:15:42 AM
6m a year for him?

I could understand 2m a year as that is already a high salary but 6m is atrocious, incompetence of the highest order to over pay an out of work manager for the biggest job he'll ever have.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: sirblue57 on November 29, 2017, 07:19:35 AM
Bang on!!

This season has shown the true colours of some of our fans.





Just do one will ya. I have followed this club a long time. And I stood in the fucking boys pen like Billy bullshit. And after the dross, the lies and the failures, we have a right to say "enough" fuck off with the amateurs running themclub. Let's shown some nous for once, some ambition, some fucking balls.

Sick of the shit somemof you will accept. I have had it with this club if they appoint that fuckernsnd his fucking monkey. If that upsets you tough shit.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: bluenuck on November 29, 2017, 09:41:01 AM
6m a year for him?

I could understand 2m a year as that is already a high salary but 6m is atrocious, incompetence of the highest order to over pay an out of work manager for the biggest job he'll ever have.

6m a year might be a good thing I reckon. That usually means the length of the contract is short. Maybe he will sign for 1 to 1 1/2 seasons. That's 6-9m. Better than signing him to 4 years at 2ish million.

Gotta take the positives anywhere we can.  :)
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 29, 2017, 11:05:41 AM
Figures being talked about of what we will be paying him is 6m a year. Outside of the elite managers in the world, surely most managers for 6m a year would come to us even in this state? He'll be around the top 10 paid managers in the world, crazy.

Can surely only be for a 12 month contract if true ?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: BlueBeagle on November 29, 2017, 12:41:45 PM
From talk of a top 4 challenge to having our pants pulled down by Sam Allerdyce in the space of 4 months.

Everton as fuck.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Silas on November 29, 2017, 01:23:07 PM
Everyone's entitled to their view and I totally get people being pissed off but not one of you is a better fan than the other because you want to or do not want to back an Allardyce appointment. Pack in the accepting mediocrity shit,  pack in the you're a shit fan if stuff we all want a successful Everton
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 01:23:27 PM
Is Roy Evans available?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: fubarruk on November 29, 2017, 01:24:47 PM
6m a year for him?

I could understand 2m a year as that is already a high salary but 6m is atrocious, incompetence of the highest order to over pay an out of work manager for the biggest job he'll ever have.
Don't forget the extra few quid he'll be making in backhanders on massive transfer deals, 6m is merely what's on the books, he knows ways to get round rules remember.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 01:27:26 PM
https://twitter.com/GregOK/status/93565432180661043
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 29, 2017, 01:29:34 PM
We paid Koeman £6m a year for what? Being a steady PL manager? Well, surely thatís what any future manager would expect, unless it was Unsworth or someone whoís just grateful being there. Moshiri has set us up to be rinsed by any future manager, salary wise.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 29, 2017, 01:33:37 PM
Everyone's entitled to their view and I totally get people being pissed off but not one of you is a better fan than the other because you want to or do not want to back an Allardyce appointment. Pack in the accepting mediocrity shit,  pack in the you're a shit fan if stuff we all want a successful Everton
Agree. I donít think anyone is accepting of mediocrity but some of us are more accepting of the predicament (we believe) weíre in.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Brownie on November 29, 2017, 01:39:55 PM

We're not quite there yet, but it's imminent . So these players you mention with a lack of fight have no excuse. They've been shocking all season and some (Schneiderlen and Williams) since they walked through the door.
They're meant to give me reason to spend my hard earnt money to come and watch them play.... not the other way around you deluded f**k.

Nice. Not deluded pal. Just feed up of whining little pricks who I wouldn't want next to me in the trenches, having their little meltdowns. Now do you want me to find a nice safe place for you while all this horrible stuff is going on?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: southtoff on November 29, 2017, 01:42:49 PM
Cant bear the thought of him beating his chest like a gorilla as we survive by a point on the last day... What the fuck has happened to our club
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: D_murph0278 on November 29, 2017, 02:10:30 PM
Nice. Not deluded pal. Just feed up of whining little pricks who I wouldn't want next to me in the trenches, having their little meltdowns. Now do you want me to find a nice safe place for you while all this horrible stuff is going on?

If I pay money to go through the gates at Goodison, I'll say what I want during the game. I also pay the money to support the team, not affect their performances by slagging them off. The difference being, this time I cant be taking my seat and supporting 2 absolute gobshites of the game running Everton.
Apologies for the "deluded f**k" jibe btw.
Nothing winds me up like this football club of ours.....
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Alanvideo on November 29, 2017, 02:13:39 PM
Wasn't Lee on Koeman's staff at Southampton ? he didn't come here then and I don't think he'll come this time.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: TheRam on November 29, 2017, 02:14:40 PM
He's going to be one of the highest paid managers in the world.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahaha

He's played a fucking blinder here. Fair play to him.

I certainly will not be getting behind him. I'll grin and bear it for the few months he's here before he gets fucked off as it becomes abundantly clear he's out of his depth managing Everton.

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Waltzer on November 29, 2017, 02:20:47 PM
He's going to be one of the highest paid managers in the world.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahaha

He's played a fucking blinder here. Fair play to him.

I certainly will not be getting behind him. I'll grin and bear it for the few months he's here before he gets fucked off as it becomes abundantly clear he's out of his depth managing Everton.



Next few months!! 2.5 year contract hes signing!! :(

He will be in charge next season for sure
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Cereal Killer on November 29, 2017, 02:22:22 PM
If he's on that much then we aren't getting shot of him in the summer either, the payouts will be huge again for him and his staff.....
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 29, 2017, 02:24:11 PM
Who the fuck is making these decisions?!
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 02:26:57 PM
We're officially a laughing stock, 6 million quid a year for one of the worst managers in the Premier League is a massive joke, well played Everton.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Waltzer on November 29, 2017, 02:30:45 PM
We're officially a laughing stock, 6 million quid a year for one of the worst managers in the Premier League is a massive joke, well played Everton.


Dont get me wrong its still an extortionate amount of money but I heard it was 12 million for 2.5 years, which will be just under 5 mill per year. Plus we have to pay Crystal Palace 2 mill for the privilege of having him, couldn't write it could you.......
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 02:32:23 PM
Dont get me wrong its still an extortionate amount of money but I heard it was 12 million for 2.5 years, which will be just under 5 mill per year. Plus we have to pay Crystal Palace 2 mill for the privilege of having him, couldn't write it could you.......

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Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 02:40:40 PM
https://twitter.com/TheEFCForum/status/935461817928871936
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2017, 02:46:02 PM
Iíd presume Allardyce was on £2m a year at Palace, hence the rumoured £2m compo fee?

So Iíd like to know just what Moshiri sees in him to offer treble that amount now? Less than twelve months on. It makes no sense whatsoever. Allardyce went to Palace at a much later stage than this and they were in far greater need of a ďfirefighter specialistĒ to help them stay up given their position compared to our current one. Yet they seemingly werenít held to ransom by him or his agent and here we are with this supposed ďtopĒ businessman in charge paying hand over fist, again, for a manager nobody else is interested in.

Howís it come to this? Weíve gone from being a prudent, tightly run business less than 20 months ago to chucking cash around like a drunken sailor on shore leave. If we carry on like this it wonít be long before we begin to circle the plug hole, like countless clubs before us.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Waltzer on November 29, 2017, 02:53:45 PM
Iíd presume Allardyce was on £2m a year at Palace, hence the rumoured £2m compo fee?

So Iíd like to know just what Moshiri sees in him to offer treble that amount now? Less than twelve months on. It makes no sense whatsoever. Allardyce went to Palace at a much later stage than this and they were in far greater need of a ďfirefighter specialistĒ to help them stay up given their position compared to our current one. Yet they seemingly werenít held to ransom by him or his agent and here we are with this supposed ďtopĒ businessman in charge paying hand over fist, again, for a manager nobody else is interested in.

Howís it come to this? Weíve gone from being a prudent, tightly run business less than 20 months ago to chucking cash around like a drunken sailor on shore leave. If we carry on like this it wonít be long before we begin to circle the plug hole, like countless clubs before us.

Think he was on 2.5 million with bonuses, the 2 million we have to pay was in his contract in case he took another job within 12 months of leaving them.

I agree its an absolute shambles on and off the pitch, and without sounding like a broken record, is the reason I was so against Koeman sacking, he wasnt the problem, the problems run much deeper at our club.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 02:55:30 PM
Echo seems to think he could be announced today.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 29, 2017, 03:18:33 PM
Bang on!!

This season has shown the true colours of some of our fans.



I'm not sure what you think fans are for. Are fans not human and entitled to have opinions and views or are they supposed to just get behind the club regardless? No individual has to support Everton Football Club, it's not a given unlike some romantic notions that seem to think it is.

If some fans decide the club is going backwards and they can't stomach a kopite on the touchlines then they are perfectly within their rights to withhold their money and support and become a passive fan, at best, if they want. Clubs are there to serve the fans not the other way around and empty seats are usually decent indicators of the balance.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Alanvideo on November 29, 2017, 03:24:20 PM
The current bottom 6 clubs are managed by Hughes ,Pardew ,(Allardyce ) ,Moyes ,Clements ,& Hodgson . All experienced managers ,some with experience of fighting relegation. It's going to be a struggle to get away from this group .
I don't want Allardyce either but he's what we need at this time.   FFS.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Faceatthefence on November 29, 2017, 03:27:24 PM
Aww. He's only ickle.

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Looks like one of them baboons that rob ya food in Gib.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 03:37:04 PM
Can't wait to see the the official announcement video, that should be fun

2 years ago it was Koeman flying into JLA on a private Jet, today it will be Sam Fucking Allardyce walking out of a subway munching a footlong
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Rhys on November 29, 2017, 03:37:48 PM
Talk of a 4m 'saving us from relegation' bonus as well.

He's played two blinders, retiring in the summer was always going to make whoever got him next pay more to 'convince' him to come out of retirement. Also walking away from negotiations so publically last time when he knew he wasn't first choice meant that if we did come back he'd hold all the cards when negotiatiating. Everything has fallen into place for him now he's about to earn about 4m in wages, 4m for keeping us up and whatever big signing on bonus he'll get so probably make 10m between now and the end of the season alone.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 29, 2017, 03:39:47 PM
Can't wait to see the the official announcement video, that should be fun

2 years ago it was Koeman flying into JLA on a private Jet, today it will be Sam Fucking Allardyce walking out of a subway munching a footlong
Thank goodness it will be a proper footlong and not a nonce 6incher that Fonseca would be chomping on
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 03:40:44 PM
Talk of a 4m 'saving us from relegation' bonus as well.

He's played two blinders, retiring in the summer was always going to make whoever got him next pay more to 'convince' him to come out of retirement. Also walking away from negotiations so publically last time when he knew he wasn't first choice meant that if we did come back he'd hold all the cards when negotiatiating. Everything has fallen into place for him now he's about to earn about 4m in wages, 4m for keeping us up and whatever big signing on bonus he'll get so probably make 10m between now and the end of the season alone.

This angers me a lot, he won't save us from relegation, we'd be fine with whoever took over, but he will be lauded a hero by a few on here.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 29, 2017, 03:42:26 PM
Talk of a 4m 'saving us from relegation' bonus as well.

He's played two blinders, retiring in the summer was always going to make whoever got him next pay more to 'convince' him to come out of retirement. Also walking away from negotiations so publically last time when he knew he wasn't first choice meant that if we did come back he'd hold all the cards when negotiatiating. Everything has fallen into place for him now he's about to earn about 4m in wages, 4m for keeping us up and whatever big signing on bonus he'll get so probably make 10m between now and the end of the season alone.

Where do you get that 4m for keeping us up, The Beano ?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: dax78 on November 29, 2017, 03:42:49 PM
He's going to be one of the highest paid managers in the world.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahaha

He's played a fucking blinder here. Fair play to him.

I certainly will not be getting behind him. I'll grin and bear it for the few months he's here before he gets fucked off as it becomes abundantly clear he's out of his depth managing Everton.



The same as Koeman, Martinez, Moyes, Smith, Walker, before him
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 29, 2017, 03:43:40 PM
I think I'm starting to see why Usmanov kept Moshiri in the background while he negotiated the big boy deals and his Penfold-like No 2 carried his bag and did his online banking for him.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Gash on November 29, 2017, 03:49:38 PM
Aww. He's only ickle.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171128/43d22b9a26e4c77d1c8632aedf043844.jpg)

Bet the kopites loved that.

Not that we'd see many photos like that if he comes here.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Rhys on November 29, 2017, 03:50:05 PM
Where do you get that 4m for keeping us up, The Beano ?

Varying reports.

But he got 4m for keeping palace up and seeing as we will be trebling his wages it makes those reports seem more than plausible.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4063082/Crystal-Palace-pay-new-boss-Sam-Allardyce-4million-keeps-Eagles-up.html
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lazarou on November 29, 2017, 03:50:19 PM
I still can't believe this is happening. And the money! All those precious £££'s on this outcome. What have we become besides a laughing stock.


Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 03:52:59 PM
https://twitter.com/grandoldteam/status/935797253217890305
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 29, 2017, 03:54:54 PM
Can't wait to see the the official announcement video, that should be fun

2 years ago it was Koeman flying into JLA on a private Jet, today it will be Sam Fucking Allardyce walking out of a subway munching a footlong

Surely they wont be doing a video??
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2017, 03:54:54 PM
Talk of a 4m 'saving us from relegation' bonus as well.

He's played two blinders, retiring in the summer was always going to make whoever got him next pay more to 'convince' him to come out of retirement. Also walking away from negotiations so publically last time when he knew he wasn't first choice meant that if we did come back he'd hold all the cards when negotiatiating. Everything has fallen into place for him now he's about to earn about 4m in wages, 4m for keeping us up and whatever big signing on bonus he'll get so probably make 10m between now and the end of the season alone.

Whatís the length of contract youíve heard Rhys?

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 29, 2017, 03:56:42 PM
Personally I think Moshiri has looked at the amount of money he could make by building a new stadium and everything that goes with it, has seen that potentially going up in smoke and realised he can't preside over a relegation so he's gone for perceived safety first.
As long as we're in the top half of the Premier League from now until then he'll make a tidy profit when he comes to depart so if it's boring stability for a few years then so be it. The sexy names can come later. Call it a revised business plan.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 29, 2017, 03:57:16 PM
Surely they wont be doing a video??

Nah...they only do that for world class ex Barca legend Managers....and then they sack em !....
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 29, 2017, 03:58:18 PM
Nah...they only do that for world class ex Barca legend Managers....and then they sack em !....


I mean, they MUST know the general fan feelings on this?? Doing a video would show how out of touch they are.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 29, 2017, 04:00:33 PM
Jim White show about to start on talksport, looking forward to finding out what moshiri has planned
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 29, 2017, 04:01:33 PM
I mean, they MUST know the general fan feelings on this?? Doing a video would show how out of touch they are.

Surely to God if anyone knows anything then at least Bill Kenwright must protest above everything else
about Sammy Lee, surely that can't happen, if it does then we know where we stand, insignificant in the money game that is now the Premier League.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 29, 2017, 04:04:16 PM
No Jim White!
Max rushden covering instead, no Everton news likely.

Also Alan Brazil randomly has Silvan Distin as his co-host tomorrow. Itís an upgrade on Joey Barton
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 29, 2017, 04:05:40 PM
I mean, they MUST know the general fan feelings on this?? Doing a video would show how out of touch they are.

Itíll be an understated announcement. They will thank Unsworth I reckon and just say about Allardyce being a former England manager for the tiniest bit of positive spin

Iíve kind of made peace with it now. Keep us up Sam and then take a decent pay off in the summer when we replace you with someone younger with more ambition who can progress us and I will just accept that it is what it is
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2017, 04:06:18 PM
Personally I think Moshiri has looked at the amount of money he could make by building a new stadium and everything that goes with it, has seen that potentially going up in smoke and realised he can't preside over a relegation so he's gone for perceived safety first.
As long as we're in the top half of the Premier League from now until then he'll make a tidy profit when he comes to depart so if it's boring stability for a few years then so be it. The sexy names can come later. Call it a revised business plan.

Plans havenít even been released, a planning application is yet to go in never mind the 3/4 years it takes to build once all thatís sorted. This isnít about the stadium, we could be up and down a number of times before thatís built.

Christ we might even threaten to win something if we get our act together in the meantime.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 29, 2017, 04:07:54 PM
Sam is getting £6m because Koeman got £6m -  weíve made it the going rate for managing Everton by paying Koeman over market value.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 29, 2017, 04:11:23 PM
Plans havenít even been released, a planning application is yet to go in never mind the 3/4 years it takes to build once all thatís sorted. This isnít about the stadium, we could be up and down a number of times before thatís built.

Christ we might even threaten to win something if we get our act together in the meantime.

The stadium is his long term project though. He's not here to preside over a club who haven't won anything for decades who play in an old wooden stadium that needs tearing down. He's here to rebuild and rebrand an old club and hopefully cash in when we hit a peak, not end up like Leeds United.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 29, 2017, 04:15:15 PM
https://twitter.com/grandoldteam/status/935797253217890305

When it's in full illustrative colour....
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 04:16:56 PM
It seems to me that a lot people are happy with Allardyce because they believe he is the only manager in the world capable of "keeping us up"


Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: School of Science on November 29, 2017, 04:17:10 PM
I mean, they MUST know the general fan feelings on this?? Doing a video would show how out of touch they are.

Don't worry Liz's, they'd have to remake " The Titanic " for Big Sam's video!
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lazarou on November 29, 2017, 04:21:28 PM
It seems to me that a lot people are happy with Allardyce because they believe he is the only manager in the world capable of "keeping us up"

Very true, we are in a mess no doubt about it and then some but we are a club with a expensive squad, fantastic youth set up etc etc. We are still in November though and I think it is still a bit early to push the panic button.

A manager with a decent calibre and some organisation should easily be able to get us out of this mess, why does it have to be him and his backroom staff. Sammy fucking Lee FFS!

All on Walsh by the looks of it, he can fuck off. Embarrassing.

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 29, 2017, 04:22:22 PM
If they make a video they havenít got a fucking clue. Iíd say at the very best 1 in 50 fans are keen on this appointment.

If I were a betting man Iíd wager he gets chased out of the club quicker than he did at Newcastle.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 04:22:57 PM
Sam Allardyce - achieved nothing in his managerial career, kept Sunderland up though
Craig Shakespeare - led a players revolt against Raniera and got him sacked, got the job, did well for a month and two, sacked after less than a year
Sammy Lee - manager Bolton, sacked after 20 games

Welcome to Everton
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: everton1952 on November 29, 2017, 04:23:12 PM
Very true, we are in a mess no doubt about it and then some but we are a club with a expensive squad, fantastic youth set up etc etc. We are still in November though and I think it is still a bit early to push the panic button.

A manager with a decent calibre and some organisation should easily be able to get us out of this mess, why does it have to be him and his backroom staff. Sammy fucking Lee FFS!

All on Walsh by the looks of it, he can fuck off. Embarrassing.


Name one that you know is likely to be available now or very soon.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2017, 04:24:37 PM
The stadium is his long term project though. He's not here to preside over a club who haven't won anything for decades who play in an old wooden stadium that needs tearing down. He's here to rebuild and rebrand an old club and hopefully cash in when we hit a peak, not end up like Leeds United.

Of course the stadium is a long term project which makes such a short term expensive appointment all the more ridiculous. If thatís the plan who next after Allardyce? Pulis? Heís never been relegated. Hughes?....




Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: TheTone on November 29, 2017, 04:25:47 PM
Sam Allardyce - achieved nothing in his managerial career, kept Sunderland up though
Craig Shakespeare - led a players revolt against Raniera and got him sacked, got the job, did well for a month and two, sacked after less than a year
Sammy Lee - manager Bolton, sacked after 20 games

Welcome to Everton

is it really true about Sammy Lee mate or is it a wind up?

surely Allardyce isn't that fucking stupid
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ramjam on November 29, 2017, 04:27:42 PM
Surely Sammy Lee isnít that fuckin stupid
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 29, 2017, 04:31:44 PM
Very true, we are in a mess no doubt about it and then some but we are a club with a expensive squad, fantastic youth set up etc etc. We are still in November though and I think it is still a bit early to push the panic button.

A manager with a decent calibre and some organisation should easily be able to get us out of this mess, why does it have to be him and his backroom staff. Sammy fucking Lee FFS!

All on Walsh by the looks of it, he can fuck off. Embarrassing.

We are almost in December and coming into the hectic Christmas period where I think we have 7 games in a month, 21 points to lose ! If we are in the drop zone come January that's it, we needed someone in yesterday, o.k. It's Allerdyce, not our or anybody else's first choice but he has a job to do and I think he can do it, we can get back to day dreaming about Simeone once we have 45 points on the board.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 04:32:36 PM
is it really true about Sammy Lee mate or is it a wind up?

surely Allardyce isn't that fucking stupid

McNulty has confirmed it, great isn't it

It would seem Nil Satis Nisi Optimum no longer has a meaning to owner and board.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lazarou on November 29, 2017, 04:33:34 PM
Name one that you know is likely to be available now or very soon.

Not my job. But if we are offering £6 million a year, a transfer budget, a fantastic training ground etc etc then if we can't get anyone else interested then the chairman etc are failing massively.

Just let this sink in, Sammy Lee on our bench in our club.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 29, 2017, 04:37:41 PM
Of course the stadium is a long term project which makes such a short term expensive appointment all the more ridiculous. If that’s the plan who next after Allardyce? Pulis? He’s never been relegated. Hughes?....






I totally agree, I'm just trying to understand why we've acted in such a way.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: sam of the south on November 29, 2017, 04:45:27 PM
IT'S SPELLED A-L-L-A-R-D-Y-C-E!

I don't particularly want him here, but it seems strange that those that do constantly spell his name wrong!

Just look up as you type, it's spelled correctly in the thread title!

Oh, and Sammy Lee.

Fucking hell, a fucking redshite that looks like an albino werewolf 😔
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 29, 2017, 04:45:44 PM
Talk sport reporting 2 1/2 year deal @ 12 million, that's 4.8 a year.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: velimski on November 29, 2017, 04:50:15 PM
It's imminent isn't it. Just waiting for the white smoke to appear. Or perhaps black smoke would be more appropriate.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 04:52:38 PM
Talk sport reporting 2 1/2 year deal @ 12 million, that's 4.8 a year.

2 1/2 years to long!
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lazarou on November 29, 2017, 04:53:12 PM
Talk sport reporting 2 1/2 year deal @ 12 million, that's 4.8 a year.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/l0MYJJLeEG5TOHToI/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2017, 04:54:09 PM
Mike Walker - I understood the reasons
Royle, I got it
Smith, got it
Moyes, a risk but I got it
Martinez, wasn't sure but I got it
Koeman, got it
Allardyce.... I just don't get it at all

We win tonight, we are twelfth. If this clown keep us up, even 17th he gets four million

Unreal
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: TheRam on November 29, 2017, 04:57:27 PM
Never has a board flapped it so much.

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Alanvideo on November 29, 2017, 04:58:26 PM
It seems to me that a lot people are happy with Allardyce because they believe he is the only manager in the world capable of "keeping us up"



............Nobody has said they are happy with Allardyce but he might keep us up. It seems we've approached quite a few prospective managers and they've all fucked us off. Just have to grin and bear it . But Lee can fuck right off.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 04:59:11 PM
New club moto

Sed Satis Est Infra Quod Average
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Rhys on November 29, 2017, 05:01:32 PM
Whatís the length of contract youíve heard Rhys?



Everything seeing says 2 and a half years. I just really hope we are doing that length so doesnt seem to the players like it is a short term appointment but there is a clause in there that allows us to pay him off not for the full contract in the summer when they can get someone better. I think that is more hope than expectation though.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 29, 2017, 05:03:12 PM
75 points to play for and we're throwing 'safety bonuses' at him? Is this some kind of joke? I get the appointment, don't really agree with it but I reluctantly get it. However offering him a bonus for doing his job successfully with 2/3 of the season left to go is bonkers.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Alanvideo on November 29, 2017, 05:03:58 PM
Mike Walker - I understood the reasons
Royle, I got it
Smith, got it
Moyes, a risk but I got it
Martinez, wasn't sure but I got it
Koeman, got it
Allardyce.... I just don't get it at all

We win tonight, we are twelfth. If this clown keep us up, even 17th he gets four million

Unreal
................you're dead right but do you see us winning tonight ? there needs to be a drastic uplift from the players . We can't score and we can't defend.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 05:04:37 PM
75 points to play for and we're throwing 'safety bonuses' at him? Is this some kind of joke? I get the appointment, don't really agree with it but I reluctantly get it. However offering him a bonus for doing his job successfully with 2/3 of the season left to go is bonkers.

Everton that
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: sam of the south on November 29, 2017, 05:05:42 PM
Who would we have preferred, Allardyce, Pulis, O'Neill, or Pardew? (I know it's like a choice between bad AIDS and varieties of the big c, but just curious)
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 29, 2017, 05:07:51 PM
Who would we have preferred, Allardyce, Pulis, O'Neill, or Pardew? (I know it's like a choice between bad AIDS and varieties of the big c, but just curious)

Martinez.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: mikey_blue on November 29, 2017, 05:08:14 PM
In times like this there's one thing that you need more than ever....

The NSNO Podcast.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2017, 05:08:59 PM
................you're dead right but do you see us winning tonight ? there needs to be a drastic uplift from the players . We can't score and we can't defend.
Yeah I could see us winning tonight
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2017, 05:10:00 PM
Who would we have preferred, Allardyce, Pulis, O'Neill, or Pardew? (I know it's like a choice between bad AIDS and varieties of the big c, but just curious)
It didn't have to be that way tho
That's what's annoying
Big wide world out there
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: everton1952 on November 29, 2017, 05:11:15 PM
All the shite and hate spouted on here for several weeks could have been  avoided if the voice of NSNO had been heeded by the club. Many foreign names have been suggested by knowledgeable people, all of them suitable for the plumb Everton job, and apparently all dying to come. Nothing happened. We could have saved all this unpleasantness and stayed with the popular Unsworth. One writer opened the Unsworth  thread saying "I love this guy".   Unsie is so nice, cuddly, honest, endearing, loyal, all the qualities not applicable to Big Sam, and would work for nothing if asked. It might have taken Unsie  2 years to get the 40 pts,  but although fat like Sam, at least he was never sacked by England and would prefer Ebbrell  as his assistant rather than a former shite man named Lee. All points in Unsie's favour. Come on Bill. If you pick Big Sam, some on NSNO might never go to a match again (or in some cases never turn the TV on again).
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: dax78 on November 29, 2017, 05:15:18 PM
New club moto

Sed Satis Est Infra Quod Average

If you believe this should be our motto only now, then what have you been watching for the last 28 years.
Think its time to bin off all this Allardyce bashing, and get on board with it, like it or not, its happening.
I support, have always supported, and will continue to support, Everton Football club, not the manager or coach or chairman, or owner, but Everton FC. This will not change.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Cereal Killer on November 29, 2017, 05:16:19 PM
It didn't have to be that way tho
That's what's annoying
Big wide world out there

"But but but it's full of Johnny Foreigner who won't have a clue about English football as it is completely different to how they play everywhere else in the world, so they'd bound to get us relegated....."

 :headbang: :bonk:
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 05:20:47 PM
If you believe this should be our motto only now, then what have you been watching for the last 28 years.
Think its time to bin off all this Allardyce bashing, and get on board with it, like it or not, its happening.
I support, have always supported, and will continue to support, Everton Football club, not the manager or coach or chairman, or owner, but Everton FC. This will not change.

At the moment it should be, the board have showed their lack of ambition here big style, a huge backward step.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Dr. Sponge on November 29, 2017, 05:22:32 PM
I wanted Allardyce in a few weeks ago, because I saw how bad we were. Under Koeman and then Unsworth.

And since then we've gotten worse. We're getting absolutely battered, not just lingering mid-table.

It's very worrying and Allardyce is the closest you can get to guaranteed improvement.

If we were a little higher in the table or looked a little more assured in performances, we could afford a slightly riskier appointment. "Progressive" as some people have said... I don't like using that word but I get what they mean. An attacking philosophy. Although right now we just need pragmatism and some strong leadership.

But Sammy Lee... fuck sake, there has to be another option.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: dax78 on November 29, 2017, 05:23:34 PM
At the moment it should be, the board have showed their lack of ambition here big style, a huge backward step.

Yes, but average is what we have been for the past 3 decades, that has not been altered by this appointment alone, as you suggest.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lazarou on November 29, 2017, 05:23:49 PM
If you believe this should be our motto only now, then what have you been watching for the last 28 years.
Think its time to bin off all this Allardyce bashing, and get on board with it, like it or not, its happening.
I support, have always supported, and will continue to support, Everton Football club, not the manager or coach or chairman, or owner, but Everton FC. This will not change.

Why should I get on board with it? I don't agree with it.

This man and his cronies should have nothing to do with my club.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: sam of the south on November 29, 2017, 05:24:58 PM
I reckon that any manager that is coveted decided not to touch us with a bargepole, currently.

Hopefully if we avoid relegation (we should, especially when we get some reinforcements in in January) we will look far more attractive come the summer.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2017, 05:26:01 PM
Announcement imminent
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Waltzer on November 29, 2017, 05:29:33 PM
All the shite and hate spouted on here for several weeks could have been  avoided if the voice of NSNO had been heeded by the club. Many foreign names have been suggested by knowledgeable people, all of them suitable for the plumb Everton job, and apparently all dying to come. Nothing happened. We could have saved all this unpleasantness and stayed with the popular Unsworth. One writer opened the Unsworth  thread saying "I love this guy".   Unsie is so nice, cuddly, honest, endearing, loyal, all the qualities not applicable to Big Sam, and would work for nothing if asked. It might have taken Unsie  2 years to get the 40 pts,  but although fat like Sam, at least he was never sacked by England and would prefer Ebbrell  as his assistant rather than a former shite man named Lee. All points in Unsie's favour. Come on Bill. If you pick Big Sam, some on NSNO might never go to a match again (or in some cases never turn the TV on again).

Struggling to understand what you're going on about tbh but are you saying you'd prefer to get relegated with Unsworth and Ebbrell than stay up with Allardyce and Lee.
Exactly what points in Unsies favour, hes been an absolute car crash and were in a much worst mess now than we were when he took over, hence the reason our hand has been forced
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 05:37:30 PM
Announcement imminent

https://twitter.com/ALANMYERSMEDIA/status/935829055982710785
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Waltzer on November 29, 2017, 05:37:30 PM
I wanted Allardyce in a few weeks ago, because I saw how bad we were. Under Koeman and then Unsworth.

And since then we've gotten worse. We're getting absolutely battered, not just lingering mid-table.

It's very worrying and Allardyce is the closest you can get to guaranteed improvement.

If we were a little higher in the table or looked a little more assured in performances, we could afford a slightly riskier appointment. "Progressive" as some people have said... I don't like using that word but I get what they mean. An attacking philosophy. Although right now we just need pragmatism and some strong leadership.

But Sammy Lee... fuck sake, there has to be another option.

I dont think things are that bad, and nothing any manager worth his salt couldn't rectify, plus the addition of a striker of course.

The irony is teams like Spurs and Liverpool aren't saying they're out of the title hunt yet were closer in points to them than they are to City, a win tonight and were level with the team in 12th position, despite this season being an absolute car crash, we had an horrendous set of fixtures at the beginning with some very winable games coming up and in 2 weeks things could look a whole lot different.

My only regret is that Unsworth has been so poor, if there was even a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel under him we wouldnt appoint Sam, does that make it right, no from me, but we are where we are and there isnt much any of us can do to stop it so we might as well try to enjoy the journey!
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 29, 2017, 05:38:18 PM
I suspect Allardyce doesn't give a shit what any fan thinks. This is one last big payday, biggest of his career, and he's going to milk it for all it's worth. He's not stupid, much as the media might sometimes give that impression, and he'll know he won't be a popular choice within his own boardroom let alone the fanbase but he's not arsed.
To curry favour with fans he could have omitted Sammy Lee from his staff due to the obvious conflicts and history but he won't because he doesn't need to. We've rolled over and asked him to tickle our collective belly while furnishing him with a fistful of gold coins.

I reckon it'll be a rollercoaster of cheers and jeers and much as I hate to admit it he'll probably give us our best result against the shite for many a year due to his thoroughness of preparation and pragmatic approach.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Risky on November 29, 2017, 05:42:48 PM
https://twitter.com/ALANMYERSMEDIA/status/935829055982710785

I love a good Conclave
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 05:43:53 PM
You can almost smell the gravy
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Tinga on November 29, 2017, 05:43:53 PM
Exciting... might swerve the match off later and play some Rocket League with my mates.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lazarou on November 29, 2017, 05:48:55 PM
Be interesting to see if they do the half time parade of the goons. I am sure that will be well received.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: AllyBlue14 on November 29, 2017, 05:50:58 PM
Let me preface this by reiterating that my first choice would have been Tuchel and Iím not exactly doing cartwheels at the prospect of Allardyce becoming our manager. We may only be 3 pts off 10th or whatever it is, but in terms of performance, weíre miles away and sinking fast.

Clearly other teams are panicking too Ė Hodgson and Pardew are hardly long-term appointments and Iíd expect Pulis to be back before long. Personally, Iíd take Allardyce over any of them.

I really donít know who people expect us to bring in Ė this isnít a fashionable appointment but itís really not the time to be experimenting with unknown quantities. We could cast our net further afield but whoís there? Weíve clearly tried other options but they havenít been interested/available.

Allardyce has a record of turning teams around and the longer we leave it, the more difficult the situation becomes. Sammy Lee is a kick in the balls though.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lazarou on November 29, 2017, 05:54:23 PM
We aren't a team old codgers on a budget, like the old days. There is no reason to be in the position we are in other than some organisation and some team spirit.

Allardyce just cannot be the only viable alternative available to us.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2017, 05:56:09 PM
You can almost smell the gravy
Mmmmm bisto
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2017, 05:56:51 PM
Can already see the agent Sammy banners and posts now
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 05:57:44 PM
Hoping is a low key announcement, can't be doing with a fanfare etc...
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Silas on November 29, 2017, 05:58:18 PM
Allardyce will do alright what is worrying is that alright is what the boards ceiling seems to be right now. For all the talk it screams of panic
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Gash on November 29, 2017, 06:02:24 PM
Sky saying a deal's agreed and he'll be at Finch Farm later.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 29, 2017, 06:03:32 PM
Sky saying a deal's agreed and he'll be at Finch Farm later.

I'm sure the fans will be out lining the driveway in waiting to wish him good luck.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Waltzer on November 29, 2017, 06:04:10 PM
Allardyce will do alright what is worrying is that alright is what the boards ceiling seems to be right now. For all the talk it screams of panic

What worry's me more is he was actually Walsh's preferred candidate all along, and I get the feeling this would have been the case if we were 6th or 16th
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Gash on November 29, 2017, 06:04:44 PM
I'm sure the fans will be out lining the driveway in waiting to wish him good luck.

They might be lining the driveway.........
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: sam of the south on November 29, 2017, 06:05:23 PM
I can understand the Allardyce appointment.

But bringing Sammy Lee, though?

Fuck off, mate 🖕🏼
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Waltzer on November 29, 2017, 06:06:13 PM
Its done, according to Sky
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lazarou on November 29, 2017, 06:08:32 PM
Sky saying a deal's agreed and he'll be at Finch Farm later.

I may pop down and welcome the new management team.

(https://i.imgur.com/Yke4j86.jpg)
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Bally on November 29, 2017, 06:10:17 PM
Deal agreed
Sammy Lee and Craig Shakespeare as part of his backroom staff
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 29, 2017, 06:10:44 PM
Very true, we are in a mess no doubt about it and then some but we are a club with a expensive squad, fantastic youth set up etc etc. We are still in November though and I think it is still a bit early to push the panic button.

A manager with a decent calibre and some organisation should easily be able to get us out of this mess, why does it have to be him and his backroom staff. Sammy fucking Lee FFS!

All on Walsh by the looks of it, he can fuck off. Embarrassing.
I disagree mate, we are an absolute state and could easily be on 6 points.

And it does sound as if we attempted to get someone of a Ďdecent calibreí but they werenít interested or their clubs wouldnít let them go.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Waltzer on November 29, 2017, 06:12:18 PM
If its done, as reported, I want him in charge tonight, even without the opportunity to take a training session id be more confident in us getting a results with him than I would with Unsworth in charge, this game is too important for us and Unsworth fills me with no confidence that he has the ability to pick the right team.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: van der Meyde on November 29, 2017, 06:12:21 PM
I can understand the Allardyce appointment.

But bringing Sammy Lee, though?

Fuck off, mate 🖕🏼
Kenwright kiboshed that idea when Koeman came in too.

It just shows how much Allardyce has had us over a barrel.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: sam of the south on November 29, 2017, 06:13:39 PM
Kenwright kiboshed that idea when Koeman came in too.

It just shows how much Allardyce has had us over a barrel.

What idea did Kenwright kibosh?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Bluedylan on November 29, 2017, 06:15:14 PM
Jim White show about to start on talksport, looking forward to finding out what moshiri has planned

Doesn't surprise me that you listen to talksport.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 06:15:41 PM
Ecstatic
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 06:16:36 PM
What idea did Kenwright kibosh?

Sammy Lee, Koeman wanted him in as a coach, Kenwright said no.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 06:20:16 PM
Hahaha

https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/935845176307781633
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lazarou on November 29, 2017, 06:21:57 PM
I disagree mate, we are an absolute state and could easily be on 6 points.

And it does sound as if we attempted to get someone of a Ďdecent calibreí but they werenít interested or their clubs wouldnít let them go.

Yes very true mate. Just a piece of me has died inside (the blue bit). Can't believe it has come to this.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Gash on November 29, 2017, 06:24:15 PM
Only Everton could take 5 weeks to appoint a manager who wasn't even tied to a club.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Dr. Sponge on November 29, 2017, 06:25:39 PM
ALLARDYCE OUT
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Tinga on November 29, 2017, 06:27:03 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/kg9fAQryp5fMY/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Everton Mint on November 29, 2017, 06:28:46 PM
All time low. We actually needed to resort to Allardyce. The players should be ashamed.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 29, 2017, 06:30:01 PM
Only Everton could take 5 weeks to appoint a manager who wasn't even tied to a club.

And overpay him for the privilege.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: bigl1cks on November 29, 2017, 06:30:58 PM
I think he'll do well, but Sammy Lee is a kick in the balls.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MmmblueBernard on November 29, 2017, 06:31:08 PM
Just when you thought is couldn't get any worse.

Sammy Fucking Lee.

Does fan opinion no longer matter? Does taste and decency no longer matter?

I feel sick to the pit of my stomach.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Bluedylan on November 29, 2017, 06:31:19 PM
Pathetic all round. Obviously not going to stop supporting the club or the team, and anyone who says they will is exaggerating, but it's going to be very hard to stay on board with the entire Moshiri 'project' until the day Allardyce gets inevitably binned. Already counting down to that day, so that I can get fully behind the club again without any obstacles.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lazarou on November 29, 2017, 06:33:04 PM
Just when you thought is couldn't get any worse.

Sammy Fucking Lee.

Does fan opinion no longer matter? Does taste and decency no longer matter?

I feel sick to the pit of my stomach.

Totally agree, appointing Sammy Lee is one of our lowest points in our history. Can you imagine John Moores doing something like that?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Tinga on November 29, 2017, 06:33:41 PM
I just can't see anything but toxicity if we lose tonight and then the inevitable losing of the next games. We're in some major shit here.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Gary1878 on November 29, 2017, 06:34:21 PM
This is genuinely the worst season I have watched Everton. Even in the relegation threatened days of the 90s, it wasn't like this, as we knew what we were, and we were proud of our battling qualities and fighting spirit. The football was crap but we loved the derbies and did well in them (from memory). We even won our last trophy!

The season has been literally the worst it could have been apart from being bottom. The club is a mess from top to bottom, from the board to the management, to the squad. And all after spending the most in our history.

In my mind, we have gone back to square one and reversed 15 years pre-Moyes back to the Walter Smith days. Bringing in Sam Allardyce through the doors is the last resort. It is the equivalent to the UK having Trident and needing to use it. We have no choice due to the utter state the club is in. I absolutely hate it but can see the necessity of it as the club needs a stable footing, and there is no doubt he will provide that and also provide a backbone until the summer.

Hard questions need to be asked, and a lot of people need to have a long look in the mirror in June/July to evaluate what has been one of the most disruptive seasons in Everton's PL history.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 06:34:34 PM
Alladyce, Sammy Lee as assistant with Craig Shakespeare and Dunc as coaches
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: van der Meyde on November 29, 2017, 06:36:37 PM
What idea did Kenwright kibosh?
Koeman wanted to bring Sammy Lee with him from Southampton.

Kenwright refused.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 29, 2017, 06:37:19 PM
Weekly curry night round Steve Walsh's house with him, Allardyce, Lee and Shakespeare to talk shop. You couldn't make this shit up.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 06:38:47 PM
Honestly feel sick
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 06:39:28 PM
Weekly curry night round Steve Walsh's house with him, Allardyce, Lee and Shakespeare to talk shop. You couldn't make this shit up.

Shakespeare brings the wine and Sammy the pint glasses
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: bigmanbob on November 29, 2017, 06:39:53 PM
Kendall, Ball, Labone and Dean will be turning in their graves. School of fucking science?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2017, 06:39:53 PM
Can we get the echo to do a sting report and fuck the cunt off
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Escla on November 29, 2017, 06:40:06 PM
Just confirmed on TS by Jimbo who has just left Moshiri in a coffee shop round the corner (in London)
apparently contract is for remainder of this season and next season, confirmed he brings Shakespear and Lee, Allardyce will be at the match this evening.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2017, 06:40:11 PM
ďGoing to be there tonight.Ē

Moshiris mouthpiece

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 29, 2017, 06:41:04 PM
Doesn't surprise me that you listen to talksport.
Normally only listen to the sports bar in bed at 10pm but I thought I would make an exception to see what Jim White knew
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Tinga on November 29, 2017, 06:41:29 PM
Laughing stock.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Thornton_19 on November 29, 2017, 06:41:57 PM
I'd of rather been relegated than appoint this man.
Everton to me is more than a win/loss ratio.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 29, 2017, 06:42:26 PM
Shakespeare brings the wine and Sammy the pint glasses

Well they can afford it. Imagine the collective salaries those let will be taking out of us. Those four wouldn't look out of place plotting Wigan's attack on promotion to the Championship but instead they're trousering well over half a million pounds a month out of Everton Football Club.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2017, 06:42:43 PM
No even on the official site.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 29, 2017, 06:43:27 PM
Kendall, Ball, Labone and Dean will be turning in their graves. School of fucking science?
Other than Martinez first season, canít thimk of a single Everton side that has played good football since 1989

The school is science stuff is a myth
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: bigmanbob on November 29, 2017, 06:43:33 PM
apparently contract is for remainder of this season and next season
That's one thing at least then, that tells you they've got him in to keep us up this season and then to look at it in the summer. Fonsecca will be out of contract then
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Waltzer on November 29, 2017, 06:43:34 PM
Just confirmed on TS by Jimbo who has just left Moshiri in a coffee shop round the corner (in London)
apparently contract is for remainder of this season and next season, confirmed he brings Shakespear and Lee, Allardyce will be at the match this evening.

Actually happier if its only 18 months, all things going well we have a respectable finish to the season and we get rid during the summer, everyones a winner
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Tinga on November 29, 2017, 06:43:49 PM
No even on the official site.

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/840/283/350.png)
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Waltzer on November 29, 2017, 06:44:08 PM
Struth.....

https://twitter.com/JimWhite/status/935851606817591296
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: AllyBlue14 on November 29, 2017, 06:44:46 PM
This is genuinely the worst season I have watched Everton. Even in the relegation threatened days of the 90s, it wasn't like this, as we knew what we were, and we were proud of our battling qualities and fighting spirit. The football was crap but we loved the derbies and did well in them (from memory). We even won our last trophy!

The season has been literally the worst it could have been apart from being bottom. The club is a mess from top to bottom, from the board to the management, to the squad. And all after spending the most in our history.

In my mind, we have gone back to square one and reversed 15 years pre-Moyes back to the Walter Smith days. Bringing in Sam Allardyce through the doors is the last resort. It is the equivalent to the UK having Trident and needing to use it. We have no choice due to the utter state the club is in. I absolutely hate it but can see the necessity of it as the club needs a stable footing, and there is no doubt he will provide that and also provide a backbone until the summer.

Hard questions need to be asked, and a lot of people need to have a long look in the mirror in June/July to evaluate what has been one of the most disruptive seasons in Everton's PL history.

I was pondering this before and thought, in all my time supporting Everton (I'm 31) has there ever been a manager signing to really get excited about?

Koeman was probably the most prestigious name but even he had something of a chequered managerial history. Martinez and Moyes had decent reputations but both were gambles for different reasons. Smith, Kendall (mk III), Royle and Walker before them - although to be honest, I probably wasn't old enough to really gauge reaction to a manager signing.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 29, 2017, 06:45:19 PM
Struth.....

https://twitter.com/JimWhite/status/935851606817591296

Yep, back up the M62, keep going, as far as Hull then off the fuckin edge into the sea.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: van der Meyde on November 29, 2017, 06:45:57 PM
Not entirely sure what people were expecting after turning on Koeman, to be honest.

I may have wanted Koeman out, but that was in full knowledge that something like this was likely if Unsworth didn't work out.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2017, 06:46:27 PM
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/840/283/350.png)

Sorry Ting itís official straight from Moshiri via Jimbo to all the talksport listeners.

#theevertonway
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Paddockoldie on November 29, 2017, 06:47:03 PM
Whether we like it or not it's happening so time to deal with it. If you can't or won't accept it then make a decision on your support but something had to change and we didn't have a lot of options. If he does the biz alot of you will suddenly think it's okay. Grab your blue balls and get on board or don't. No player is bigger than the club? Same with supporters lads. Shit just happend
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Waltzer on November 29, 2017, 06:47:20 PM
Yep, back up the M62, keep going, as far as Hull then off the fuckin edge into the sea.

What annoys me more than anything is that its a blatant lie, if he really did think this then why not sign him up 5 weeks ago, why piss around only wanting to offer him a contract till the end of the season. Moshiri is winding me up more than anyone else at this club at the moment!!!
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: brap2 on November 29, 2017, 06:47:21 PM
ďThe players were terrified it was going to be allardyce.Ē

Extremely reliable source.

Fucked it lids.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Cuttyblue on November 29, 2017, 06:47:28 PM
Just confirmed on TS by Jimbo who has just left Moshiri in a coffee shop round the corner (in London)
apparently contract is for remainder of this season and next season, confirmed he brings Shakespear and Lee, Allardyce will be at the match this evening.

Right, thatís good. Think we all would want just till seasonís end but thatís just not realistic. 18 months works for me. Letís see what these guys can do.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: AllyBlue14 on November 29, 2017, 06:47:29 PM
I'd of rather been relegated than appoint this man.
Everton to me is more than a win/loss ratio.

So would you prefer for us to go down if it means he's then not in charge?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lazarou on November 29, 2017, 06:49:55 PM
Whether we like it or not it's happening so time to deal with it. If you can't or won't accept it then make a decision on your support but something had to change and we didn't have a lot of options. If he does the biz alot of you will suddenly think it's okay. Grab your blue balls and get on board or don't. No player is bigger than the club? Same with supporters lads. Shit just happend

(https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGEdiBproT9zajC/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: plumber on November 29, 2017, 06:50:27 PM
I have no issues with Allardyce, but now when Sammy Lee is almost confirmed I understand those who hate Allardyce.
If they they feel the same about Big Sam as I feel about that gremlin, it's really hard to swallow that.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Thornton_19 on November 29, 2017, 06:53:12 PM
So would you prefer for us to go down if it means he's then not in charge?
I genuinely don't care. I'm out until he is gone.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 29, 2017, 06:53:21 PM
ďThe players were terrified it was going to be allardyce.Ē

Extremely reliable source.

Fucked it lids.

This is not true

Rooney, Pickford and Baines are made up

Please donít make things up
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: bigl1cks on November 29, 2017, 06:54:12 PM
ďThe players were terrified it was going to be allardyce.Ē

Extremely reliable source.

Fucked it lids.

Yeah, because he'll whip the useless shower of bastards into shape and out of their cosy little lives hopefully.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 29, 2017, 06:54:32 PM
I genuinely don't care. I'm out until he is gone.

Stick to your word and meet up with me tonight and hand me your season ticket.

I will come back on here later on and let everyone know you kept your word your not just a kid keyboard warrior

This is your moment to prove you are not all talk
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MmmblueBernard on November 29, 2017, 06:54:46 PM
Silver lining #7

At least this gang of management utter bellends will all be pulling in the same direction (Walsh included).
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: brap2 on November 29, 2017, 06:54:54 PM
I reckon ban these WUMs like, rubbing salt in the wound.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: nwatson on November 29, 2017, 06:55:09 PM
Im not against the Allardyce appointment.Id prefer someone else, but we are shite and heading for the championship. We can go on getting thumped week in week out by poor teams. FFS we conceded 4 against Southampton who have struggled to score all season and they didnt have to do much to beat us.
So i can live with Allardyce for the remainder of the season BUT the club can get fucked for allowing Sammy fucking Lee in our dugout and Allardyce can do 1 to. I despise LFC and im expected to support one of their good old boys sitting on our bench. Fuck that and Fuck Moshiri too.
We are the peoples club no more. We have been sold down the river and a really hope the boos ring out around goodison until Allardyce, Lee and Moshiri are sent packing
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: van der Meyde on November 29, 2017, 06:55:40 PM
ďThe players were terrified it was going to be allardyce.Ē

Extremely reliable source.

Fucked it lids.
Well they should have shown something on the fucking pitch over the past week then, shouldn't they.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Waltzer on November 29, 2017, 06:56:43 PM
ďThe players were terrified it was going to be allardyce.Ē

Extremely reliable source.

Fucked it lids.

I actually hope this is true. A majority of the players need a rocket and one of the positives is he'll provide that. Our players have been a shambles and most arent even fit to wear the shirt for the effort they've put in. They need to take a long hard look at themselves before questioning other people.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 29, 2017, 06:57:02 PM
I agree about Sammy Lee, suprised me that one.

Not so much his coaching ability but he has far too much baggage from his time at Liverpool.

Mind you, if we win the league next year, Iíll get a Sammy Lee tattoo
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: kramer0 on November 29, 2017, 06:57:22 PM
I wonder what Allerdice will do with Barclay.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 29, 2017, 06:58:14 PM
I wonder what Allerdice will do with Barclay.
Maybe get a current account?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Waltzer on November 29, 2017, 06:58:28 PM
I wonder what Allerdice will do with Barclay.

The same as what Koeman, Unsworth or anyone else would have done. Watch him leave in January
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Major Clanger on November 29, 2017, 06:59:49 PM
Whether we like it or not it's happening so time to deal with it. If you can't or won't accept it then make a decision on your support but something had to change and we didn't have a lot of options. If he does the biz alot of you will suddenly think it's okay. Grab your blue balls and get on board or don't. No player is bigger than the club? Same with supporters lads. Shit just happend

I've no doubt he'll do the job, so long as we define the job as staying up. I've no doubt most other managers would've done it too.

What I'm worried about is what happens to us after he's gone.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Gary1878 on November 29, 2017, 07:01:04 PM
I was pondering this before and thought, in all my time supporting Everton (I'm 31) has there ever been a manager signing to really get excited about?

Koeman was probably the most prestigious name but even he had something of a chequered managerial history. Martinez and Moyes had decent reputations but both were gambles for different reasons. Smith, Kendall (mk III), Royle and Walker before them - although to be honest, I probably wasn't old enough to really gauge reaction to a manager signing.

You are right. Most of the managers that have come into the club have done so under dire circumstances, apart from Martinez and Koeman. I would say that Martinez had the most stable environment after Moyes' relative success, as he had a decent squad who all knew their roles and a solid defence. Although the season we finished 4th was good results wise, Martinez first season was the best season to watch the blues in the PL. It was exciting football, with goals but also solidity learnt from Moyes. The fact that he couldn't retain that solidity was his ultimate downfall, but dare say it, I would rather have a Martinez-like coach at Everton any day of the week over Fat Sam.

However, it is what it is.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 07:01:30 PM
https://twitter.com/Tony_Scott11/status/935852212844187650
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Waltzer on November 29, 2017, 07:04:36 PM
Isnt this the truth, it isnt just in the managerial position though....

https://twitter.com/JimWhite/status/935853386313936897
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 07:04:59 PM
Jim White saying all sorts about the deal and yet not a single thing has been announced by the club, fucking Everton
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lazarou on November 29, 2017, 07:05:40 PM
https://twitter.com/Tony_Scott11/status/935852212844187650

  lolol  :wanker:

Like your dad making his way onto the dance floor.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 29, 2017, 07:08:27 PM
Probably couldnít have picked a manger Iíd want less than this crook.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 07:08:36 PM
  lolol  :wanker:

Like your dad making his way onto the dance floor.


My dads got no legs you heartless beast
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Paddockoldie on November 29, 2017, 07:10:08 PM
I'd of rather been relegated than appoint this man.
Everton to me is more than a win/loss ratio.

Uh? Do you live in the City lad? Relegation is unthinkable and you really need to have a word with yourself. That comment is shameful blue
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lazarou on November 29, 2017, 07:10:21 PM
My dads got no legs you heartless beast

 :blush: apologies mate.

Must just be my Dad then.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 29, 2017, 07:10:53 PM
Stick to your word and meet up with me tonight and hand me your season ticket.

I will come back on here later on and let everyone know you kept your word your not just a kid keyboard warrior

This is your moment to prove you are not all talk

Everton is one big family, respect and love your fellow fans

Look, you're happy about this, but some people really aren't. It's an emotional moment, maybe you should think about following your own advice?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on November 29, 2017, 07:11:01 PM
Everton now just waiting for Sky, BBC, the independent, guardian and telegraph to confirm it first before it becomes official, but it looks like the deal is done. Jesus H Christ, Big fucking Sam Allardyce and Sammy Lee the management team of our beloved Everton football club - what a fucking crock of shit. Ah, well, that's that then - I love the club, so I wish them well, and will now be totally 100% behind him and the boys - time for a good scrap! COYB!
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 29, 2017, 07:11:37 PM
Iíll be astounded if he gets past 6 months. There will be loads of managers available in the summer.

Everton with another appointment that takes the least amount of effort 
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2017, 07:12:13 PM
This is not true

Rooney, Pickford and Baines are made up

Please don't make things up
Baines is made up cos he isn't there for 6 weeks

Didn't Allardyce not play Pickford?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: blob on November 29, 2017, 07:13:29 PM
better than nothing...i hope
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: van der Meyde on November 29, 2017, 07:13:45 PM
I've no doubt he'll do the job, so long as we define the job as staying up. I've no doubt most other managers would've done it too.

What I'm worried about is what happens to us after he's gone.
It's interesting that Allardyce is blamed for what happens once he leaves, yet Moyes was given a lot of the credit for our defence in Martinez's first season. If Moyes really was the reason for that, why isn't Allardyce leaving behind solid defences for the next manager too? (Is this just because Moyes had a better eye for quality defenders?)

I must admit I was surprised that most of the players Allardyce has signed recently were in that 24-26 year old bracket too.

Allardyce's transfer dealings may lead to a future of expensive mediocrity, but that path was already set with the signings of Bolasie, Williams, Rooney and Sigurdsson.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Waltzer on November 29, 2017, 07:14:05 PM
Iíll be astounded if he gets past 6 months. There will be loads of managers available in the summer.

Everton with another appointment that takes the least amount of effort 

I tend to agree with this, with the exception that he has a blinder and we storm up the league, but thats a good thing too. The commitment from Moshiri isnt and wasnt ever there hence the reason we offered a 6 month deal originally. All this guarantees is that Sam will get a hefty pay off for the remainder of his contract and i can live with that.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 29, 2017, 07:14:56 PM
I tend to agree with this, with the exception that he has a blinder and we storm up the league, but thats a good thing too. The commitment from Moshiri isnt and wasnt ever there hence the reason we offered a 6 month deal originally. All this guarantees is that Sam will get a hefty pay off for the remainder of his contract and i can live with that.

Happily pay him what he wants to fuck off.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 07:15:54 PM
Iíll be astounded if he gets past 6 months. There will be loads of managers available in the summer.

Everton with another appointment that takes the least amount of effort 

Just said the same to the lads in work (all reds) they agreed after they stopped pissing themselves laughing, not about Allardyce, they're stunned about Sammy Lee
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2017, 07:18:37 PM
Baines is made up cos he isn't there for 6 weeks

Didn't Allardyce not play Pickford?

Wasnít he on loan for the whole season at PNE when Allardyce was at Sunderlan?

Doubt heís ever meet him on a professional level before.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 29, 2017, 07:19:47 PM
"The players were terrified it was going to be allardyce.Ē

Extremely reliable source.

Fucked it lids.
Because heíd call them out for the cunts they are?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on November 29, 2017, 07:22:47 PM
Does anyone want to email the Everton Information & Communication Department and let them know we have appointed Big Sam?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Thomas on November 29, 2017, 07:23:22 PM
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Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 29, 2017, 07:24:03 PM
Does anyone want to email the Everton Information & Communication Department and let them know we have appointed Big Sam?

Moshiri probably called Jim White before he called Bill.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: van der Meyde on November 29, 2017, 07:24:16 PM
Wasnít he on loan for the whole season at PNE when Allardyce was at Sunderlan?

Doubt heís ever meet him on a professional level before.
No. Allardyce recalled him from Preston in January then promptly dropped him when Mannone was fit.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: sirblue57 on November 29, 2017, 07:25:20 PM
This is not true

Rooney, Pickford and Baines are made up

Please donít make things up
Heard this but not seen any actual link.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Paddockoldie on November 29, 2017, 07:26:20 PM
Mission brief: Get safe then get shut.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Major Clanger on November 29, 2017, 07:27:16 PM
Allardyce's transfer dealings may lead to a future of expensive mediocrity, but that path was already set with the signings of Bolasie, Williams, Rooney and Sigurdsson.

I don't disagree with that. But it's worrying to see those weren't just a blip or failed experiments but apparently our new policy on board level.

(Regarding the Moyes legacy, we knew Moyes left us with both the short-term benefit of a stable squad and a mid-term problem of an ageing squad. So at best his legacy was seen as mixed even back in the days.)
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2017, 07:27:47 PM
Wasn't he on loan for the whole season at PNE when Allardyce was at Sunderlan?

Doubt he's ever meet him on a professional level before.
Back of my mind was moyes gave him his big break
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: TheRam on November 29, 2017, 07:30:06 PM
Hang on.

Have we just got Jim fucking White to announce this?

What in gods name is happening to us. Moshiri hasn't a clue
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Thornton_19 on November 29, 2017, 07:30:12 PM
Stick to your word and meet up with me tonight and hand me your season ticket.

I will come back on here later on and let everyone know you kept your word your not just a kid keyboard warrior

This is your moment to prove you are not all talk
I wouldn't want a cunt like you going the game every week mate.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: GLewis on November 29, 2017, 07:33:20 PM
Hang on.

Have we just got Jim fucking White to announce this?

What in gods name is happening to us. Moshiri hasn't a clue

Maybe we can claim itís not real if not on OS :eh:
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Thomas on November 29, 2017, 07:34:02 PM
This decision and whole management recruitment farce just sums up what a complete charlatan Moshiri in particular is with his embarrassing leaks to Jim White, grandiose aspirations of the big time and the very best and splashing cash...... when it allegedly isn't even his money, our NET spend has been minimal, the new ground we won't even own or fill and telling Jim White a load of shite about big players and managers coming and Barkley leaving. Now it's reduced to Sam Allardyce and probably signing Scott Dann and Charlie Austin.

I haven't heard one fucking fan lay the blame at Moshiri, Kenwright or the boards door. All because they are seemingly under the delusion  of a honeymoon period for Moshiri and tbat this new stadium is going to take us into a brave new world.

Allardyce might not be here for long although I doubt his backroom staff would accept that. But once again that's Manager No2 Moshiri has picked and once again it's been a complete disaster.

Everything the man touches is either allegedly someone else's or a walking disaster. Not having a person who doesn't support our club tear it apart, strip away it's soul and send it into mediocrity.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2017, 07:34:51 PM
No. Allardyce recalled him from Preston in January then promptly dropped him when Mannone was fit.

Which raises questions about his attitude to young players and how itíll effect the development of Kenny, Davies, Benin, Lookman, DCL, Vlasic.....
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: GLewis on November 29, 2017, 07:39:04 PM
Which raises questions about his attitude to young players and how itíll effect the development of Kenny, Davies, Benin, Lookman, DCL, Vlasic.....

Doesnt look like itíll be too much of an issue with an 18 month deal.

Be surprised if he sees 2019.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Major Clanger on November 29, 2017, 07:41:11 PM
I haven't heard one fucking fan lay the blame at Moshiri, Kenwright or the boards door.

You can go to your GP to have the wax plugs removed from your ears then. :)
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2017, 07:43:18 PM
Doesnt look like itíll be too much of an issue with an 18 month deal.

Be surprised if he sees 2019.

Can Moshiri really afford to be looking for his 3rd new manager in less than 3 years any time soon?

Iím not convinced heís here just for such a short time, seems like people are saying it just to make themselves feel better about this when the reality is no club hire a manager on a longish ,expensive, contract with a view to sacking them in the not to distant future.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on November 29, 2017, 07:44:35 PM
18 months seems a decent deal, if he does well, great we sign him on longer, if he doesnt, it wont cost us a fortune to fuck him off.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Major Clanger on November 29, 2017, 07:44:46 PM
Can Moshiri really afford to be looking for his 3rd new manager in less than 3 years any time soon?

Iím not convinced heís here just for such a short time, seems like people are saying it just to make themselves feel better about this when the reality is no club hire a manager on a longish ,expensive, contract with a view to sacking them in the not to distant future.

Man United did it with Moyes, but that was a one off.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: GLewis on November 29, 2017, 07:46:22 PM
Can Moshiri really afford to be looking for his 3rd new manager in less than 3 years any time soon?

Iím not convinced heís here just for such a short time, seems like people are saying it just to make themselves feel better about this when the reality is no club hire a manager on a longish ,expensive, contract with a view to sacking them in the not to distant future.

Yes.

Clubs change manager frequently until they find the right one.

Weíve been the (almost) exception that proves the rule until recently.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2017, 07:47:24 PM
Man United did it with Moyes, but that was a one off.

Moyes signed a 6 year deal.

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Tony Clifton on November 29, 2017, 07:47:55 PM
Does anyone want to email the Everton Information & Communication Department and let them know we have appointed Big Sam?

They'll be cobbling together one of those videos.  Get your popcorn ready.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Everton Mint on November 29, 2017, 07:48:25 PM
The grim fact is that Allardyce is exactly what we need with the team at rock-bottom.

We dont need a manager to help us play great football... we need one just to make us a team again.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Major Clanger on November 29, 2017, 07:52:09 PM
Moyes signed a 6 year deal.

With a clause that allowed them to sack him without compensation in his first year, as planned.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: sirblue57 on November 29, 2017, 07:54:51 PM
The club has been run by amateurs since Moore's left. One fucking bad decision after another.
And we got mad when the Rafa called us a small club, he was on the money, small.club, small.ambition.

After over 45 years of supporting this club, following them everywhere, the (few) highs and many many lows, disappointments and failures. This is the lowest I have felt.
Thanks to the board for finally showing how small time and lacking in ambition you are. Not another penny of my fucking hard earned cash will you get, never again will I put seeing them play before something else. I will gollow the results and still have an attachment , but it will never be the same now I know you dint have the same passion and dreams I have for the club. For so long we waited patiently for someone to come along and take us forward, someone who had the finance; the business acumen, the drive and ambition. And we have once again been let down.

There is only so many times you can be deceived and let down before you finally realise the truth. We will never be a big club again while the board and players do not share the same dreams and ambitions the fans do.

Thank you for finally killing.my passion and my club. I hope it was worth it for you, because the pain for me is palpable.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: van der Meyde on November 29, 2017, 07:55:46 PM
I don't disagree with that. But it's worrying to see those weren't just a blip or failed experiments but apparently our new policy on board level.
Can we infer from this appointment whether the policy extends to board level or if it's just the limit of their football knowledge?

It's not a particularly uncommon thought process with the money at stake. Just yesterday our caretaker manager said we may need to recruit "proven Premier League players" to stave off relegation. :)

Bournemouth, Burnley, and Huddersfield are happy to take the risk on inexperienced managers in the hopes of reaching the Premier League. There's not a chance they'd do it with Premier League status at stake. Leicester were happy to take risks on Mahrez and Vardy in the Championship, but won't risk Gray and Iheanacho losing them games now they're there.

I'm probably one of the least risk-averse on here, it's why I was (clearly foolishly) willing to give Unsworth a chance. I find it difficult to blame the Board's conservatism when that gamble backfires though.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 07:59:24 PM
The club has been run by amateurs since Moore's left. One fucking bad decision after another.
And we got mad when the Rafa called us a small club, he was on the money, small.club, small.ambition.

After over 45 years of supporting this club, following them everywhere, the (few) highs and many many lows, disappointments and failures. This is the lowest I have felt.
Thanks to the board for finally showing how small time and lacking in ambition you are. Not another penny of my fucking hard earned cash will you get, never again will I put seeing them play before something else. I will gollow the results and still have an attachment , but it will never be the same now I know you dint have the same passion and dreams I have for the club. For so long we waited patiently for someone to come along and take us forward, someone who had the finance; the business acumen, the drive and ambition. And we have once again been let down.

There is only so many times you can be deceived and let down before you finally realise the truth. We will never be a big club again while the board and players do not share the same dreams and ambitions the fans do.

Thank you for finally killing.my passion and my club. I hope it was worth it for you, because the pain for me is palpable.

Amen to this.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Major Clanger on November 29, 2017, 08:00:12 PM
Can we infer from this appointment whether the policy extends to board level or if it's just the limit of their football knowledge?

Whichever it is, it doesn't bode well for our future.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lazarou on November 29, 2017, 08:02:09 PM
The club has been run by amateurs since Moore's left. One fucking bad decision after another.
And we got mad when the Rafa called us a small club, he was on the money, small.club, small.ambition.

After over 45 years of supporting this club, following them everywhere, the (few) highs and many many lows, disappointments and failures. This is the lowest I have felt.
Thanks to the board for finally showing how small time and lacking in ambition you are. Not another penny of my fucking hard earned cash will you get, never again will I put seeing them play before something else. I will gollow the results and still have an attachment , but it will never be the same now I know you dint have the same passion and dreams I have for the club. For so long we waited patiently for someone to come along and take us forward, someone who had the finance; the business acumen, the drive and ambition. And we have once again been let down.

There is only so many times you can be deceived and let down before you finally realise the truth. We will never be a big club again while the board and players do not share the same dreams and ambitions the fans do.

Thank you for finally killing.my passion and my club. I hope it was worth it for you, because the pain for me is palpable.

It's a sad state of affairs that the club cannot see or feel what this appointment has done to the fan base. The owner(s) and senior management are just custodians until it passes onto someone else, and as custodians they have let everyone down in the last twelve months more so because expectations have rightly been raised.

Sorry you feel this way and I feel very much the same.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2017, 08:03:16 PM
Yes.

Clubs change manager frequently until they find the right one.

Weíve been the (almost) exception that proves the rule until recently.

Other clubs chopping and changing managers either have the finances to back it up (Chelsea) or donít pay anyway near the sort of compensation/salary/severance we do.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Waltzer on November 29, 2017, 08:04:27 PM
Wow 10 million over 18 months.

It is understood Allardyce has signed a contract to the summer of 2019 worth £9million Ė with the Toffees set to hand him a £1million bonus if he keeps the club in the Premier League.

And the Daily Mirror reckons Allardyce, who will be formally introduced to the crowd before Wednesdayís Premier League match with West Ham, will earn more per year during his time at Goodison than Atletico Madrid boss Diego Simeone, Juventus manager Max Allegri, PSG chief Unai Emery and even Real Madrid coach Zinedine Zidane will make.

Allardyce is expected to take charge for the first time when Everton face Huddersfield on Saturday.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2017, 08:06:02 PM
Formally introduced
That will be interesting
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 08:07:20 PM
Wow 10 million over 18 months.

It is understood Allardyce has signed a contract to the summer of 2019 worth £9million Ė with the Toffees set to hand him a £1million bonus if he keeps the club in the Premier League.

And the Daily Mirror reckons Allardyce, who will be formally introduced to the crowd before Wednesdayís Premier League match with West Ham, will earn more per year during his time at Goodison than Atletico Madrid boss Diego Simeone, Juventus manager Max Allegri, PSG chief Unai Emery and even Real Madrid coach Zinedine Zidane will make.

Allardyce is expected to take charge for the first time when Everton face Huddersfield on Saturday.

Stinks of desperation, he must be laughing his head off, well and truly had our pants down here.

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lazarou on November 29, 2017, 08:08:24 PM
Wow 10 million over 18 months.

It is understood Allardyce has signed a contract to the summer of 2019 worth £9million Ė with the Toffees set to hand him a £1million bonus if he keeps the club in the Premier League.

And the Daily Mirror reckons Allardyce, who will be formally introduced to the crowd before Wednesdayís Premier League match with West Ham, will earn more per year during his time at Goodison than Atletico Madrid boss Diego Simeone, Juventus manager Max Allegri, PSG chief Unai Emery and even Real Madrid coach Zinedine Zidane will make.

Allardyce is expected to take charge for the first time when Everton face Huddersfield on Saturday.

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Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: van der Meyde on November 29, 2017, 08:08:32 PM
Whichever it is, it doesn't bode well for our future.
On the surface, no.

There's no excuse for the manager or Director of Football now though. When it all goes tits up, they'll be gone at the end of next season. Maybe then, with a little more planning and though, we'll be able to sort it out the structure properly. We offer enough in wages that we could convince plenty of decent people.

A wasted few years, but we've already wasted a lot of them anyway.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Confucius on November 29, 2017, 08:09:33 PM
A little bit of me still hoping it's not true...
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: sam of the south on November 29, 2017, 08:10:34 PM
Craig Shakespeare looks a tad local..


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Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 08:10:53 PM
A little bit of me still hoping it's not true...

I'm sorry to break this to you but, it is true.

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Everton Mint on November 29, 2017, 08:11:42 PM
Disappointing as this season has been, relegation simply has to be avoided. The Championship is full of once great clubs and we could become another.

If you think this is bad, imagine the oblivion of years in the wilderness.

Bite the bullet, keep the faith and the future can still come good.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on November 29, 2017, 08:12:45 PM
so he has a win rate of 37% so based on that expect approx 9 more wins this season , if i'm correct, but way better than being relegated
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 29, 2017, 08:13:54 PM
On that kind of money there goes any plan to stitch him up by offering him 5% of any agents fee for a Venezuelan international in January.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 29, 2017, 08:14:01 PM
Formally introduced
That will be interesting

Has a club ever been fined for supporters throwing things at their own manager during his introduction? With the way the mood is I wouldn't be particularly surprised if that happened.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Thomas on November 29, 2017, 08:14:27 PM
The club has been run by amateurs since Moore's left. One fucking bad decision after another.
And we got mad when the Rafa called us a small club, he was on the money, small.club, small.ambition.

After over 45 years of supporting this club, following them everywhere, the (few) highs and many many lows, disappointments and failures. This is the lowest I have felt.
Thanks to the board for finally showing how small time and lacking in ambition you are. Not another penny of my fucking hard earned cash will you get, never again will I put seeing them play before something else. I will gollow the results and still have an attachment , but it will never be the same now I know you dint have the same passion and dreams I have for the club. For so long we waited patiently for someone to come along and take us forward, someone who had the finance; the business acumen, the drive and ambition. And we have once again been let down.

There is only so many times you can be deceived and let down before you finally realise the truth. We will never be a big club again while the board and players do not share the same dreams and ambitions the fans do.

Thank you for finally killing.my passion and my club. I hope it was worth it for you, because the pain for me is palpable.
Good post. This is exactly how I feel and added to this having to argue with fans who are sometimes ridiculously gullible and taken in by grand ideas and the lure of big money just alienates me further.

We have a new manager that is disliked across football and are leaving our home without even checking if we can stay or so much as a whimper by some of our fans because they worship big money and have a borderline sky era mentality.
Can we infer from this appointment whether the policy extends to board level or if it's just the limit of their football knowledge?

It's not a particularly uncommon thought process with the money at stake. Just yesterday our caretaker manager said we may need to recruit "proven Premier League players" to stave off relegation. :)

Bournemouth, Burnley, and Huddersfield are happy to take the risk on inexperienced managers in the hopes of reaching the Premier League. There's not a chance they'd do it with Premier League status at stake. Leicester were happy to take risks on Mahrez and Vardy in the Championship, but won't risk Gray and Iheanacho losing them games now they're there.

I'm probably one of the least risk-averse on here, it's why I was (clearly foolishly) willing to give Unsworth a chance. I find it difficult to blame the Board's conservatism when that gamble backfires though.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: TheTone on November 29, 2017, 08:15:37 PM
I wonder what Allerdice will do with Barclay.

open an offshore account with them and send an instruction to expect £10m to be cleaned tax free over the next 2 years
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Thomas on November 29, 2017, 08:15:45 PM
Wow 10 million over 18 months.

It is understood Allardyce has signed a contract to the summer of 2019 worth £9million Ė with the Toffees set to hand him a £1million bonus if he keeps the club in the Premier League.

And the Daily Mirror reckons Allardyce, who will be formally introduced to the crowd before Wednesday's Premier League match with West Ham, will earn more per year during his time at Goodison than Atletico Madrid boss Diego Simeone, Juventus manager Max Allegri, PSG chief Unai Emery and even Real Madrid coach Zinedine Zidane will make.

Allardyce is expected to take charge for the first time when Everton face Huddersfield on Saturday.
If that's true words fail me.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2017, 08:16:07 PM
Has a club ever been fined for supporters throwing things at their own manager during his introduction? With the way the mood is I wouldn't be particularly surprised if that happened.
Could add that to our ever growing list of firsts
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: bigl1cks on November 29, 2017, 08:16:39 PM
On that kind of money there goes any plan to stitch him up by offering him 5% of any agents fee for a Venezuelan international in January.

Oh bore off.  People like to make money for themselves, its the way of the world.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Thomas on November 29, 2017, 08:17:25 PM
I'm sorry to break this to you but, it is true.
There's a strong brandy on the rocks in the living room for you lad, I might join you.

Jesus fucking wept this is woeful.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 29, 2017, 08:17:38 PM
Has a club ever been fined for supporters throwing things at their own manager during his introduction? With the way the mood is I wouldn't be particularly surprised if that happened.

Where's that nutter who tried to stick one on a Lyon player while holding his son.... Get him in to get Sam to sign his lads shirt.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: nsno on November 29, 2017, 08:19:25 PM
The club has been run by amateurs since Moore's left. One fucking bad decision after another.
And we got mad when the Rafa called us a small club, he was on the money, small.club, small.ambition.

After over 45 years of supporting this club, following them everywhere, the (few) highs and many many lows, disappointments and failures. This is the lowest I have felt.
Thanks to the board for finally showing how small time and lacking in ambition you are. Not another penny of my fucking hard earned cash will you get, never again will I put seeing them play before something else. I will gollow the results and still have an attachment , but it will never be the same now I know you dint have the same passion and dreams I have for the club. For so long we waited patiently for someone to come along and take us forward, someone who had the finance; the business acumen, the drive and ambition. And we have once again been let down.

There is only so many times you can be deceived and let down before you finally realise the truth. We will never be a big club again while the board and players do not share the same dreams and ambitions the fans do.

Thank you for finally killing.my passion and my club. I hope it was worth it for you, because the pain for me is palpable.
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Like yourself, I've supported Everton for a long time and believe me this isn't the lowest we've been as a club, not by a long shot.  I've seen worse teams, worse managers and worse players.  I hope your going to get behind the new manager and give him and the players the support you need. You never know big Sam might just surprise you.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 29, 2017, 08:20:10 PM
Where's that nutter who tried to stick one on a Lyon player while holding his son.... Get him in to get Sam to sign his lads shirt.

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Sam brings him in as an aggression coach for the squad.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 08:20:23 PM
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Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2017, 08:20:49 PM
The actual only good point of the last 7 days had been the leaked naked celebs pics I got sent
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Bwana on November 29, 2017, 08:21:04 PM
It hurts but this is the right choice, at least on the paper, at this point. We're in a fuckin' free fall and we need some-one like Allardyce to steady the boat.

I'm behind this man if He becomes a Blue now.

COYB!
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Thomas on November 29, 2017, 08:21:27 PM
Oh bore off.  People like to make money for themselves, its the way of the world.
If your a socialist or more importantly a half decent person. No.

Not everything has to be dictated by money. When it is,  it results in us giving a mediocre manager £9m a year.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: sirblue57 on November 29, 2017, 08:22:11 PM
The actual only good point of the last 7 days had been the leaked naked celebs pics I got sent

I think you should share, I fucking need something to cheer me up  :woohoo: :woohoo: :whistle:
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 08:22:36 PM
The actual only good point of the last 7 days had been the leaked naked celebs pics I got sent

Louisa Johnson though, the little minx.

Anyway, do he really need to be introduced to the fans, will anyone really be arsed, just officially announce him and let him get to work.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: everton1952 on November 29, 2017, 08:23:35 PM
Struggling to understand what you're going on about tbh but are you saying you'd prefer to get relegated with Unsworth and Ebbrell than stay up with Allardyce and Lee.
Exactly what points in Unsies favour, hes been an absolute car crash and were in a much worst mess now than we were when he took over, hence the reason our hand has been forced
Errr, sorry the sarcasm passed over your head.actually.  I am mocking all those who know better and would have done better and spout utter bile. Come on Sam.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2017, 08:24:57 PM
Louisa Johnson though, the little minx.

Anyway, do he really need to be introduced to the fans, will anyone really be arsed, just officially announce him and let him get to work.
I'll check her now
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2017, 08:26:28 PM
Louisa Johnson though, the little minx.

Anyway, do he really need to be introduced to the fans, will anyone really be arsed, just officially announce him and let him get to work.
Yup yup
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: everton1952 on November 29, 2017, 08:27:54 PM
Exciting... might swerve the match off later and play some Rocket League with my mates.
Are you giving up your ticket which would be sad, or don't you have one?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2017, 08:28:36 PM
I think you should share, I fucking need something to cheer me up  :woohoo: :woohoo: :whistle:
Done
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Tinga on November 29, 2017, 08:28:57 PM
Are you giving up your ticket which would be sad, or don't you have one?

My ticket is me sitting on my fat arse trying to find a decent stream.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: everton1952 on November 29, 2017, 08:32:00 PM
This decision and whole management recruitment farce just sums up what a complete charlatan Moshiri in particular is with his embarrassing leaks to Jim White, grandiose aspirations of the big time and the very best and splashing cash...... when it allegedly isn't even his money, our NET spend has been minimal, the new ground we won't even own or fill and telling Jim White a load of shite about big players and managers coming and Barkley leaving. Now it's reduced to Sam Allardyce and probably signing Scott Dann and Charlie Austin.

I haven't heard one fucking fan lay the blame at Moshiri, Kenwright or the boards door. All because they are seemingly under the delusion  of a honeymoon period for Moshiri and tbat this new stadium is going to take us into a brave new world.

Allardyce might not be here for long although I doubt his backroom staff would accept that. But once again that's Manager No2 Moshiri has picked and once again it's been a complete disaster.

Everything the man touches is either allegedly someone else's or a walking disaster. Not having a person who doesn't support our club tear it apart, strip away it's soul and send it into mediocrity.
Gosh, you are in a bad way. It would be hard to match that load of bile. Why don't you start a thread "Moshiri Out". and see what response you get?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: everton1952 on November 29, 2017, 08:34:52 PM
The club has been run by amateurs since Moore's left. One fucking bad decision after another.
And we got mad when the Rafa called us a small club, he was on the money, small.club, small.ambition.

After over 45 years of supporting this club, following them everywhere, the (few) highs and many many lows, disappointments and failures. This is the lowest I have felt.
Thanks to the board for finally showing how small time and lacking in ambition you are. Not another penny of my fucking hard earned cash will you get, never again will I put seeing them play before something else. I will gollow the results and still have an attachment , but it will never be the same now I know you dint have the same passion and dreams I have for the club. For so long we waited patiently for someone to come along and take us forward, someone who had the finance; the business acumen, the drive and ambition. And we have once again been let down.

There is only so many times you can be deceived and let down before you finally realise the truth. We will never be a big club again while the board and players do not share the same dreams and ambitions the fans do.

Thank you for finally killing.my passion and my club. I hope it was worth it for you, because the pain for me is palpable.
Where in the ground is your ticket? I know two people who want a season ticket and will pay up front. I asked the same off someone else but there was no response. Perhaps he changed his mind.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Silas on November 29, 2017, 08:37:10 PM
It's a weird one because it's essentially very similar to the West Ham Moyes appointment. You know what you are getting, it's almost a certainty what the ceiling is with him and its just very much safety first.

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Bluenose 91 on November 29, 2017, 08:37:22 PM
He wasn't many peoples first choice but he's here now and it is what it is.

Doing anything other than just trying to get behind him is counter productive.

We are properly, properly in the shite.  Getting battered most weeks by poor sides.

At the very least he has a set game plan and should bring in a couple of decent additions in January.

It's a bit of a shambles it's come to this, especially turning him down then going crawling back but we're desparate at the minute.

Anyone who boo's him tonight or likes to make a big song and dance about how they're ''done'' with Everton need to give their head a wobble.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Waltzer on November 29, 2017, 08:38:01 PM
Looks like the club arent even arsed about this.....

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/11/29/club-statement

Club Statement

Sam Allardyce will be at USM Finch Farm this afternoon to finalise terms on becoming the new manager of Everton Football Club.

David Unsworth will remain in charge of the Blues for tonightís Premier League match against West Ham United at Goodison Park.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: everton1952 on November 29, 2017, 08:39:34 PM
Has a club ever been fined for supporters throwing things at their own manager during his introduction? With the way the mood is I wouldn't be particularly surprised if that happened.
Have you thought of seeking therapy? Such lunatic thoughts are a worrying sign for you and your loved ones. I will take a camera in case you actually do it.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lazarou on November 29, 2017, 08:42:56 PM
Looks like the club arent even arsed about this.....

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/11/29/club-statement

Club Statement

Sam Allardyce will be at USM Finch Farm this afternoon to finalise terms on becoming the new manager of Everton Football Club.

David Unsworth will remain in charge of the Blues for tonightís Premier League match against West Ham United at Goodison Park.

Wow the club appear to be so proud of this amazing piece of news.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 29, 2017, 08:44:03 PM
Where in the ground is your ticket? I know two people who want a season ticket and will pay up front. I asked the same off someone else but there was no response. Perhaps he changed his mind.

Come on, some people are upset about this and venting. Needling people for saying they are done in the heat of the moment is just unnecessary.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: blue1948 on November 29, 2017, 08:45:27 PM
As a life long blue of course I will give him support but no words can describe how disappointed I am with his appointment ,it could only be equaled by Moyes coming back ,no that would be better .Absolutely gutted by this guy coming in ,part because he is a first rate twat and secondly because it gives a message that we are being run by nincompoops and thirdly because this is EVERTON we don't employ crooks .Ask all who have been forced to leave before .Fucking gutted.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: blue1948 on November 29, 2017, 08:46:27 PM
Have you thought of seeking therapy? Such lunatic thoughts are a worrying sign for you and your loved ones. I will take a camera in case you actually do it.
Therapy ? I will give him throwing practice!
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 29, 2017, 08:47:25 PM
Have you thought of seeking therapy? Such lunatic thoughts are a worrying sign for you and your loved ones. I will take a camera in case you actually do it.

That is a disgusting thing to say. You consider mental health to be a joke subject for mocking your fellow fans?

If you'd been following I was making a joke, but to come back with a statement like that.. wow.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Trowel on November 29, 2017, 08:51:23 PM
Remember when we used to argue about whether Mourinho would be good enough for us?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 08:58:48 PM
Even our sponsors are taking the piss

https://twitter.com/SportPesa_UK/status/935884258547261441
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Faceatthefence on November 29, 2017, 09:05:53 PM
Remember when we used to argue about whether Mourinho would be good enough for us?
The diversity of opinions is what makes a thread or complete forum,youre right about the mourinho shout but that just puts into context the majority of glittering thoughts  we have when expectations are raised so high.Moshiris money has come with a curse up to now,talk of sanchez and simione bids have also been embarrassing.We have royally f@#%&d up and i just hope its a learing curve for the new owner.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: toffee_scot on November 29, 2017, 09:08:46 PM
I am anticipating the Angry Birds announcement of this:

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/angrybirds/images/4/44/AB_Movie_Terence.png/revision/latest?cb=20161008100225)
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Waltzer on November 29, 2017, 09:11:13 PM
The diversity of opinions is what makes a thread or complete forum,youre right about the mourinho shout but that just puts into context the majority of glittering thoughts  we have when expectations are raised so high.Moshiris money has come with a curse up to now,talk of sanchez and simione bids have also been embarrassing.We have royally f@#%&d up and i just hope its a learing curve for the new owner.

The thing is it was our owner that ramped up the expectations, he said we were spending big, doing this doing that, so far thats about the extent of it, him running his mouth off and doing nothing to back it up. The learning needs to be 'shut your mouth unless you plan on backing it up'
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lazarou on November 29, 2017, 09:15:41 PM
Even our sponsors are taking the piss

https://twitter.com/SportPesa_UK/status/935884258547261441

Like the way he is chewing gum like some raver off his head. The piss taking I will be getting for this will be merciless. And thoroughly deserved.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Danny on November 29, 2017, 09:19:41 PM
Call me glass half full kind of guy if you want but I think we'll do very well under him, probably sign Benteke in January and go on a run.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Rodenplav64 on November 29, 2017, 09:24:14 PM
That is a disgusting thing to say. You consider mental health to be a joke subject for mocking your fellow fans?

If you'd been following I was making a joke, but to come back with a statement like that.. wow.

Don't be a snowflake .
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2017, 09:26:57 PM
Oh well. It is what it is.

Pros: We finally have a permanent manager and  contract is only 18 months.

Cons: isn't the man any of us wanted

I'll support him but just hope his reign isn't longer than the current contract. All about survival now. Season is the anithetical kind of nervousness than we were expecting.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 09:28:49 PM
The FA Cups got our name on it
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Rodenplav64 on November 29, 2017, 09:30:53 PM
Gutted but this is Everton and we have made ourselves a laughing stock . I support the team in any case but I won't be making 600 mile round trips while Allardyce is Manager ( well not unless someone else drives and buys my ticket ) .
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: blargins on November 29, 2017, 09:31:17 PM
Is it too late to push for the title this season yet?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Faceatthefence on November 29, 2017, 09:33:14 PM
Like the way he is chewing gum like some raver off his head. The piss taking I will be getting for this will be merciless. And thoroughly deserved.
Wait till he replaces the salad bar at FF with a Greggs display counter.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Thomas on November 29, 2017, 09:37:02 PM
Jack Collison on working with Big Sam
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: bluenuck on November 29, 2017, 09:37:36 PM
I'm not sure what you think fans are for. Are fans not human and entitled to have opinions and views or are they supposed to just get behind the club regardless? No individual has to support Everton Football Club, it's not a given unlike some romantic notions that seem to think it is.

If some fans decide the club is going backwards and they can't stomach a kopite on the touchlines then they are perfectly within their rights to withhold their money and support and become a passive fan, at best, if they want. Clubs are there to serve the fans not the other way around and empty seats are usually decent indicators of the balance.

Not saying they can't do what they want. But like you said, I can have an opinion on it. And I do.

I don't care if people are upset about allardyce coming in. I don't want allardyce either. But to throw the white towel in on Everton now?

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: blue1948 on November 29, 2017, 09:44:36 PM
Oh well. It is what it is.

Pros: We finally have a permanent manager and  contract is only 18 months.

Cons: isn't the man any of us wanted

I'll support him but just hope his reign isn't longer than the current contract. All about survival now. Season is the anithetical kind of nervousness than we were expecting.
Do you ever re read your posts ?
Pros his contract is only 18months and we at least have a permanent manager??????
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: sam of the south on November 29, 2017, 09:50:07 PM
Do you ever re read your posts ?
Pros his contract is only 18months and we at least have a permanent manager??????

You are so aggressive, mate 😁

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: mikey_blue on November 29, 2017, 09:53:50 PM
Jack Collison on working with Big Sam

Interesting that. So far this season, our zone 14 has been absolutely pillaged.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 09:54:02 PM
https://twitter.com/Scott_MorrisEfc/status/935897487092699136
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 29, 2017, 09:56:13 PM
https://twitter.com/Scott_MorrisEfc/status/935897487092699136
Face on Walsh?
Bellend
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 29, 2017, 09:57:13 PM
Not saying they can't do what they want. But like you said, I can have an opinion on it. And I do.

I don't care if people are upset about allardyce coming in. I don't want allardyce either. But to throw the white towel in on Everton now?



I don't agree with it myself but was just pointing out that we live in a fluffy world now where people take umbridge at the slightest thing and flounce around like a flower. If they want to take their ball home because we've employed someone they don't like so be it.

I'm ambivalent either way. At least I can justify having a midweek drink tonight while I watch us with a bit of anticipation for a change.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: blue1948 on November 29, 2017, 09:58:43 PM
You are so aggressive, mate 😁


Aggressive asking that question ? Get a life .
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: blue1948 on November 29, 2017, 09:59:42 PM
The FA Cups got our name on it
Thanks for that .Still laughing.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: sam of the south on November 29, 2017, 10:00:43 PM
Aggressive asking that question ? Get a life .


Haha, there you go again, proving my point! 😂

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Faceatthefence on November 29, 2017, 10:02:09 PM
https://twitter.com/Scott_MorrisEfc/status/935897487092699136
Sam just asking walsh...Has that car got a big bungbox...i mean glovebox.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 10:05:14 PM
Face on Walsh?
Bellend

High fived shortly after the pic was taken
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: mikey_blue on November 29, 2017, 10:14:23 PM
High fived shortly after the pic was taken

They've got one of those elaborate Jesse Lingard handshakes.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Faceatthefence on November 29, 2017, 10:20:08 PM
Scarf seller will go a bomb tonight with the Big Sams blue and white army numbers.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 29, 2017, 10:22:16 PM
https://twitter.com/Scott_MorrisEfc/status/935897487092699136

'Didn't I say just bear with me Sam lad. Now come inside I've got a can of Worthington's on my desk for you.'
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 29, 2017, 10:52:55 PM
Official announcement at 5 apparenty
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 29, 2017, 10:53:32 PM
Don't be a snowflake .

I'm not. We've had a few discussions, so you know I both keep it civil and stand up for myself. His comment was along the lines of that muppet yesterday, and that poster has been on the wind up.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ross on November 29, 2017, 10:55:29 PM
Official announcement at 5 apparenty

Just had to send out for a wider angled lens for his media shots and update the bandwidth on the home server.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 29, 2017, 10:57:20 PM
They've got one of those elaborate Jesse Lingard handshakes.

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/ad2cbf548eb0f572195452f3da5f0d84/tumblr_od134ia5fA1uf3ssqo1_r1_400.gif)
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Tinga on November 29, 2017, 10:58:48 PM
Everton's dead Dave.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: American Evertonian on November 29, 2017, 11:14:50 PM
Do you ever re read your posts ?
Pros his contract is only 18months and we at least have a permanent manager??????

No idea what you're getting at here mate. Genuinely asking.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: bluenuck on November 29, 2017, 11:19:31 PM
https://twitter.com/Scott_MorrisEfc/status/935897487092699136

We might see what a good partnership between a DoF and a manager will look like now.

Just trying to find the positives.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Thomasmcd on November 29, 2017, 11:39:24 PM
Turns out AVB wasn't quitting to come to us....

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/nov/29/andre-villas-boas-quits-as-manager-of-shanghai-sipg-to-take-part-in-dakar-rally
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: MrWhite on November 29, 2017, 11:53:08 PM
Even our sponsors are taking the piss

https://twitter.com/SportPesa_UK/status/935884258547261441

Probably jealous that PaddyPower got to announce it ahead of them.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Brownie on November 29, 2017, 11:53:18 PM
Don't be a snowflake .

Fuck off with that shit. There are people on here who genuinely suffer with mental health issues. Then there are people like me who work closely with kids who are in utter bits because of their mental health. It's not being a snowflake as I am far from that. It's called not being a cunt
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Confucius on November 29, 2017, 11:59:44 PM
My thoughts...

I am unhappy, we always were a cut above the rabble. Not appointing the same old tired group who move from one club to the other. We are more than a laughing stock.

One thing is clear, a group of old white, rich men control the inner workings of things and they keep things pretty much to themselves. i am sad we are a part of that.

My only positive is that we have absolutely no hope for the derby so if we actually do win, what would that make the Liverpool? An even bigger laughing stock?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ell Capitan on November 30, 2017, 12:01:59 AM
Figures being talked about of what we will be paying him is 6m a year. Outside of the elite managers in the world, surely most managers for 6m a year would come to us even in this state? He'll be around the top 10 paid managers in the world, crazy.

Is this true?

That's a complete joke.

On the one hand it's not my money so who cares.

But we're made to look a laughing stock to have our pants pulled down so publicly by Allardyce in a completely bungled negotiation.

And every agent, whether for a player or a manager, will know if they play their cards right with some very basic negotiating tactics, they'll be able to completely mug us off.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Faceatthefence on November 30, 2017, 12:48:57 AM
Is this true?

That's a complete joke.

On the one hand it's not my money so who cares.

But we're made to look a laughing stock to have our pants pulled down so publicly by Allardyce in a completely bungled negotiation.

And every agent, whether for a player or a manager, will know if they play their cards right with some very basic negotiating tactics, they'll be able to completely mug us off.
Sad mate...Weve jumped into bed with Aspreys and shopped at Ratners.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: brap2 on November 30, 2017, 12:48:59 AM
OK. I am now going to try and talk myself into accepting Allardyce.

1. We desperately need organisation.

Itís clear as day that we need organisation. In regards to a manager who spend some time (or rather his coaches do) on shape, organisation, structure with and without the ball - Big Sam does so these things.

His teams are very clear in terms of personality and ethos. Weíve lacked this for 3/4 years and the total chaos we see every week is the logical conclusion of this.

He will sort out this back four inside a month I think. He will be good for Keane, good for Jags and maybe even good for Williams.

2. Transfers

We will have somewhat more joined up thinking with Walsh and Sam eating off the same extra-large Carvery plate, unlike koeman and Walsh that seemed to barely be able to look one another in the eye.

This kind of cohesion is GOOD. Whether they will actually do well with it, I donít know, but at least theyíll all be on the same page for once.

If you look through his historic buys, there are a number of big hits (Djorjkaeff, Anelka, Okocha) and he has been known to buy from less obvious places compared to most English managers. Heís moved away a bit, but maybe him and Walsh can bring in some exotic gems to remind us all of his heyday?

3. His Past - Our Immediate Future

He knows his way around this particular buffet better than anyone. Yes, that does write the narrative for us to be the first, most expensive, most useless fucking side ever to take the premís premier escapologist down, but in my opinion heís probably in an easier situation than heís been in the past. Squad is fucked, but with the organisation from above and the individual attacking players (even while being the worst weíve been in years, weíve still scored somehow, so with an actual plan and hopefully less crushingly early Goals and heartbreakingly simple and inevitable defeats...we may even score a bit more).

Itís not likely to be champagne football, but what we do like is aggression, tackles and a bit of snide. He should be able to bring this, and as long as he hits his own average we will be fine. If he betters it, we may get a surprise.

4. Prog-Grock

Yep, he plays for yardage. Yep, he plays for set pieces. Yep, he believes in getting it up there and getting it in the fucking net.

But - heís actually a weirdly progressive coach. Itís not in the typical way of fancy possession based play, but he has a style, and he is extremely effective at implementing it.

He is in my opinion, the first Ďmoneyballí coach of the prem, and this goes back to Bolton. The concept of identifying undervalued assets and gaining an advantage through leveraging those assets in your own set up is something sam has been doing for a long time.

Sometimes through signing older players, sometimes through singing from (at the time) exotic leagues - his transfer record is 1) pretty good and 2) pretty good value for doh.

Also, there is a very modern trend for paying very close attention to set pieces to gain an advantage often ignored by competition (moneyball again) see : F.C. mid and Brentford is it? - well sam has been doing that since day one. He embraced data and sports science before any other English manager.

Sigurdsson will benefit from Sam Allardyceís tutalage. So will anyone in the squad who can head a ball. Looking at you Jags, Keane, Williams.

5) Step Up?

Is this his biggest job in club football? Probably is, innit?

Heís a man whoís regularly banged his own drum. Heís a truculent chest banger with a monstrous ego. What do you think he wants to do with this job? Yeah sure, earn a wedge of doh, but heís been talking about how heíd win the lot with a bigger team, so have his extremely annoying fan club on here all week - so fuck it, letís see what heís got.

6) Star Man

It is also typical of Sam to implement his structure and allow one or two Star men to shine. Another good sign for Sig? Lookman maybe?

A typical Ďproper football maní doesnt strike me as the sort to allow jay jay okocha the room to perform, and if we had another escapologist like pards or Pulis I would say - attackers are fucked, but Sam doesnít mind a bit of flair, especially when it helps him win free kicks high up the pitch.

7) Dunno

Listen, I know think this is half arsed, I know Iím leaning quite heavily on some proper half facts, but I need something to lean on and thatís not just down to the 4 cans of ipa Iím pounding on the virgin pendalino to limey.

I didnít want him, I donít want him, I think itís a bad sign and Iím fucked off with it. I also donít believe in guarantees in footy so he better get to work ASAP.

But - you canít tell me you watched that saints game and thought, yeah weíll get out of this mess.

Another write off season from Everton, but fuckin hell. What can I do about it? Iíll probably feel differently later after moyesyís gang of knobheads stick us in the reggers zone, but right now Iím just grasping and hoping.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: sam of the south on November 30, 2017, 12:52:57 AM
Haha, Allardyce filmed in car park through a curtain.

Can understand him smiling, Moshiri looked way to chuffed for my liking, though
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ell Capitan on November 30, 2017, 12:53:03 AM
This is his big chance. Let's see if he takes it.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 30, 2017, 12:53:46 AM
Just arrived at Goodison with Moshiri and Walsh, huge smile on his face
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 30, 2017, 12:56:56 AM
Fucking hell haha

https://twitter.com/SirStevoTimothy/status/935939186426859521
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Gash on November 30, 2017, 12:58:46 AM
El Hadj Diouf says he'll get us into the Champions League.  :eh:
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lincs Toffee on November 30, 2017, 01:02:21 AM
OK. I am now going to try and talk myself into accepting Allardyce.

1. We desperately need organisation.

It's clear as day that we need organisation. In regards to a manager who spend some time (or rather his coaches do) on shape, organisation, structure with and without the ball - Big Sam does so these things.

His teams are very clear in terms of personality and ethos. We've lacked this for 3/4 years and the total chaos we see every week is the logical conclusion of this.

He will sort out this back four inside a month I think. He will be good for Keane, good for Jags and maybe even good for Williams.

2. Transfers

We will have somewhat more joined up thinking with Walsh and Sam eating off the same extra-large Carvery plate, unlike koeman and Walsh that seemed to barely be able to look one another in the eye.

This kind of cohesion is GOOD. Whether they will actually do well with it, I don't know, but at least they'll all be on the same page for once.

If you look through his historic buys, there are a number of big hits (Djorjkaeff, Anelka, Okocha) and he has been known to buy from less obvious places compared to most English managers. He's moved away a bit, but maybe him and Walsh can bring in some exotic gems to remind us all of his heyday?

3. His Past - Our Immediate Future

He knows his way around this particular buffet better than anyone. Yes, that does write the narrative for us to be the first, most expensive, most useless fucking side ever to take the prem's premier escapologist down, but in my opinion he's probably in an easier situation than he's been in the past. Squad is fucked, but with the organisation from above and the individual attacking players (even while being the worst we've been in years, we've still scored somehow, so with an actual plan and hopefully less crushingly early Goals and heartbreakingly simple and inevitable defeats...we may even score a bit more).

It's not likely to be champagne football, but what we do like is aggression, tackles and a bit of snide. He should be able to bring this, and as long as he hits his own average we will be fine. If he betters it, we may get a surprise.

4. Prog-Grock

Yep, he plays for yardage. Yep, he plays for set pieces. Yep, he believes in getting it up there and getting it in the fucking net.

But - he's actually a weirdly progressive coach. It's not in the typical way of fancy possession based play, but he has a style, and he is extremely effective at implementing it.

He is in my opinion, the first "moneyball' coach of the prem, and this goes back to Bolton. The concept of identifying undervalued assets and gaining an advantage through leveraging those assets in your own set up is something sam has been doing for a long time.

Sometimes through signing older players, sometimes through singing from (at the time) exotic leagues - his transfer record is 1) pretty good and 2) pretty good value for doh.

Also, there is a very modern trend for paying very close attention to set pieces to gain an advantage often ignored by competition (moneyball again) see : F.C. mid and Brentford is it? - well sam has been doing that since day one. He embraced data and sports science before any other English manager.

Sigurdsson will benefit from Sam Allardyce's tutalage. So will anyone in the squad who can head a ball. Looking at you Jags, Keane, Williams.

5) Step Up?

Is this his biggest job in club football? Probably is, innit?

He's a man who's regularly banged his own drum. He's a truculent chest banger with a monstrous ego. What do you think he wants to do with this job? Yeah sure, earn a wedge of doh, but he's been talking about how he'd win the lot with a bigger team, so have his extremely annoying fan club on here all week - so fuck it, let's see what he's got.

6) Star Man

It is also typical of Sam to implement his structure and allow one or two Star men to shine. Another good sign for Sig? Lookman maybe?

A typical "proper football man' doesnt strike me as the sort to allow jay jay okocha the room to perform, and if we had another escapologist like pards or Pulis I would say - attackers are fucked, but Sam doesn't mind a bit of flair, especially when it helps him win free kicks high up the pitch.

7) Dunno

Listen, I know think this is half arsed, I know I'm leaning quite heavily on some proper half facts, but I need something to lean on and that's not just down to the 4 cans of ipa I'm pounding on the virgin pendalino to limey.

I didn't want him, I don't want him, I think it's a bad sign and I'm fucked off with it. I also don't believe in guarantees in footy so he better get to work ASAP.

But - you can't tell me you watched that saints game and thought, yeah we'll get out of this mess.

Another write off season from Everton, but fuckin hell. What can I do about it? I'll probably feel differently later after moyesy's gang of knobheads stick us in the reggers zone, but right now I'm just grasping and hoping.
Decent post that mate, we have no option but to get behind him now heís here, as unlikely as that may have seemed this summer. We are the worst performing team in the league and need a kick up the arse, hopefully all the positives you have highlighted will be implemented and we will be pleasantly surprised by the end off the season.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on November 30, 2017, 01:03:30 AM
Haha, Allardyce filmed in car park through a curtain.

Can understand him smiling, Moshiri looked way to chuffed for my liking, though
Must have been the Mosh's medication time.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Everton Mint on November 30, 2017, 01:03:31 AM
A lot of bullshit is spoken about football manager's.... all that style of play and tactical genius stuff.

Good organisation, playing for each other and getting real team spirit are as important, if not more so, and especially if the players arent the best or low on confidence.

If Allardyce gets these aspects right then the good football will come anyway through our more talented players.

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: blue slug on November 30, 2017, 01:13:43 AM
At the end of the day heís our manager wether we like it or not so get behind him and the team and fingers crossed he may surprise us
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: School of Science on November 30, 2017, 01:14:54 AM
El Hadj Diouf says he'll get us into the Champions League.  :eh:

Well that's a relief, didn't Roberto say that as well...you've got to laugh  :)
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: bluenuck on November 30, 2017, 01:18:34 AM
Is this true?

That's a complete joke.

On the one hand it's not my money so who cares.

But we're made to look a laughing stock to have our pants pulled down so publicly by Allardyce in a completely bungled negotiation.

And every agent, whether for a player or a manager, will know if they play their cards right with some very basic negotiating tactics, they'll be able to completely mug us off.

In contract terms usually when the salary per year is high it means the contract length is short.

It's 9m total. So Moshiri has to take that and make the best of it. Do you sign him to 2m a season for 4 1/2 seasons, or 6m a season for 18 months?

If we're stuck with him I'm happy it's the latter.

p.s.  I'm sure there's a clause in this contract about relegation. If we're relegated he won't see all of it.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Heisenberg on November 30, 2017, 01:21:45 AM
How long is his contract?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Gash on November 30, 2017, 01:23:56 AM
How long is his contract?

18 months.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: blue slug on November 30, 2017, 01:24:04 AM
I thought it was 18 month contract but my mate thinks itís 2 and 1/2 years?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Heisenberg on November 30, 2017, 01:25:45 AM
18 months.

You know what. I can live with that. As long as he doesn't get an excessive transfer kitty.

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: bluenuck on November 30, 2017, 01:28:13 AM
You know what. I can live with that. As long as he doesn't get an excessive transfer kitty.

If the right manager is available, and wants to come to us, then I don't see Allardyce lasting past June 2018.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 30, 2017, 01:46:56 AM
Ah no - gets worse this. Beam me up Scotty lad!
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ramjam on November 30, 2017, 01:52:17 AM
So is it official that he is our new manager, nothing on the official site like?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Heisenberg on November 30, 2017, 01:54:31 AM
If the right manager is available, and wants to come to us, then I don't see Allardyce lasting past June 2018.

No. He can finish literally anywhere this season above relegation zone. Will finish top half next season. And kenwright will be doing interviews saying how lucky we are and how much progress we made. He will then be offered a 20 year contract on 10 mil a year
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 30, 2017, 03:34:01 AM
Apparently Allerdyce picked the team and gave the team-talk.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: mikey_blue on November 30, 2017, 03:35:26 AM
Apparently Allerdyce picked the team and gave the team-talk.

Done a good job then.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Cereal Killer on November 30, 2017, 03:53:12 AM
Apparently joe royle gave the team talk naked from the showers
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Heisenberg on November 30, 2017, 03:59:03 AM
Can we pull out of this deal now?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: blue slug on November 30, 2017, 04:02:39 AM
Thereís no pulling out of big Sam
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Ridge on November 30, 2017, 04:08:12 AM
If we're not really in relegation battle, whats the point of him.

Can we employ Allardyce as Director of threatening to become manager?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: bacon sarnie on November 30, 2017, 04:17:37 AM
If we're not really in relegation battle, whats the point of him.

Nine million pound ploy to put one over on David Moyes.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Macca77 on November 30, 2017, 04:22:57 AM
Apparently Allerdyce picked the team and gave the team-talk.

Wrong, Unsworth picked the team, just said so himself
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 30, 2017, 04:27:56 AM
Unsworth picked the team which Allardyce wanted to happen

Allardyce spoke with the players before the game

Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 30, 2017, 04:28:59 AM
Is this true?

That's a complete joke.

On the one hand it's not my money so who cares.

But we're made to look a laughing stock to have our pants pulled down so publicly by Allardyce in a completely bungled negotiation.

And every agent, whether for a player or a manager, will know if they play their cards right with some very basic negotiating tactics, they'll be able to completely mug us off.

'You would have to be daft to think I wasn't brought in for my recruiting talents. I'll spend money as it was my own. I won't waste it.'
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 30, 2017, 04:30:01 AM
Unsworth picked the team which Allardyce wanted to happen

Allardyce spoke with the players before the game



lolol
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: dax78 on November 30, 2017, 04:33:43 AM
Lets not try and shit all over what was a great and much needed win. They have been too few and far between this season
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 30, 2017, 04:47:19 AM
Unsworth picked the team which Allardyce wanted to happen

Allardyce spoke with the players before the game
And the whole quick forward pass and not dwelling on the ball in your own half - seems a very obvious instruction.

Heís the manager now, of course he had input into the team.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 30, 2017, 05:14:07 AM
And the whole quick forward pass and not dwelling on the ball in your own half - seems a very obvious instruction.

Heís the manager now, of course he had input into the team.

lolol
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: van der Meyde on November 30, 2017, 05:17:58 AM
I have now convinced myself that Allardyce is an upgrade on Koeman.

Please feel free to bookmark this post and slate me for it in a year's time.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: boothill on November 30, 2017, 05:23:47 AM
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: TheRam on November 30, 2017, 05:25:31 AM
He's got a challenge on his hands saving a team in 13th place from relegation.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 30, 2017, 05:28:58 AM
So we will be finishing 12th or higher?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: therealdunc on November 30, 2017, 05:49:18 AM
Itís amazing,
Under unsworth we have been dreadful but the usual apologists say itís not his fault  lolol

Tonight, with the new manager in the stand who also spoke with the players before kick off, we see a totally different performance and yet itís all down to unsworth and nothing to do with the new manager  lolol

I guess haters are gonna hate
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 30, 2017, 05:52:42 AM
lolol
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: bigac on November 30, 2017, 06:27:11 AM
Itís amazing,
Under unsworth we have been dreadful but the usual apologists say itís not his fault  lolol

Tonight, with the new manager in the stand who also spoke with the players before kick off, we see a totally different performance and yet itís all down to unsworth and nothing to do with the new manager  lolol

I guess haters are gonna hate

No mate, nothing to do with Mr Bung, it was all about the cuco factor!
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: sirblue57 on November 30, 2017, 03:30:41 PM
I find it odd that the players said the wanted to play for Unsworth, yet the performances didn't show this. And yet last night they did play better.
Maybe the manager was not the problem at all.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: GLewis on November 30, 2017, 03:38:30 PM
I find it odd that the players said the wanted to play for Unsworth, yet the performances didn't show this. And yet last night they did play better.
Maybe the manager was not the problem at all.

Maybe it was the formation which didnít expose the back 4 so much?

Or that we went in front early?

Or that we got a bit of luck with them hitting the bar / missing a pen?

Quite a few things other than players giving / not giving a toss Iíd think.
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Simon Paul on November 30, 2017, 03:54:48 PM
Imagine being so worried that your managerial appointment would spoil the atmosphere that you don't parade him on the pitch at half time

Imagine knowing your choice of manager had spot the fans so badly. But doing it anyway

And people think the fans views on the stadium?
Title: Re: [News]Allardyce in Everton talks
Post by: Lxxx on November 30, 2017, 03:58:15 PM
I also think having Rooney nowhere near the front allowed him to get on the ball facing the opposition goal a lot more. When you've got a guy with the experience and brain he has you want him, at his age, looking at play not facing his own goal or dropping back on the half turn. It lengthened Scholes' career and it might do the same for Rooney, if we can get good enough players around him.