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Title: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Thomas on December 17, 2017, 10:49:39 PM
Allardyce seems happy with Martina. However we all know as fans Baines needs a young pretender. We could wait to see what is at the world cup in Russia but I'm not sure.

As everyone on this forum knows I'd pay a kings ransom for KT at Celtic who I have talked about for 18months + and BBC Football Focus started raving about when interviewing him last week, but he has been unequivocal that at this point over the next few years he has zero interest in leaving his boyhood club, even when propositioned with moves to Arsenal. I think he wants to lift 10 in a row as captain and leave then.





t=1s

Anyway then you look at Chilwell at Leicester who is fairly similar to KT but I cant see them letting him leave with such a settled side?
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 17, 2017, 10:54:55 PM
We have to buy one yes, that's a given imo

Whether or not it's either of them... I'd be surprised

Fully expecting van aanholt
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 17, 2017, 10:57:56 PM
Tierney will win a few more things with Celtic before going to Utd in a couple of years time.

And I’m not sure Chilwell would see us as a step-up from Leicester. They’ve got as much money as us, doubt we could bully them financially.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Thomas on December 17, 2017, 11:04:35 PM
Tierney will win a few more things with Celtic before going to Utd in a couple of years time.

And I’m not sure Chilwell would see us as a step-up from Leicester. They’ve got as much money as us, doubt we could bully them financially.

Agree on both pal, like I've said KT is a rarity in wanting to stay (Le Tissier/Gerrard gear) for as long as possible but realistically it will be 10 in a row, boots thrown into the crowd and clapped off.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: therealdunc on December 17, 2017, 11:13:02 PM
Think the OP is wrong regarding Allardyce comments on Martina

He said Martina is doing well considering he is out of position

He said his improvement has made signing a left back not as critical

Fully expect a quality left back to turn up as Baines is on a slow decline , and Garbutt may finally move on.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Gash on December 17, 2017, 11:14:33 PM
Good player but I'd question Tierney's ambition if he stays at Celtic for another 18 months never mind 4 years.

I don't think we'll go for one in January, more likely go with what we've got or perhaps give Garbutt a squad number and wait until the summer. With or without a left back we'll still finish in or around 8th.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: everton1952 on December 17, 2017, 11:15:29 PM
How about Garbutt? Worth a try surely and no cost.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: therealdunc on December 17, 2017, 11:16:39 PM
Charlie Daniels is still consistently crap
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: brap2 on December 17, 2017, 11:53:59 PM
Guarantee we get that palace LB.

Jan stop gap innit.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on December 17, 2017, 11:58:01 PM
Chilwell is the man. (they have Fuchs who seems to play alot more)


lol at op saying that Allardyce prefers Martina... what options does Allardyce have Garbutt? and thats it...
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 18, 2017, 12:00:15 AM
Chilwell is the man. (they have Fuchs who seems to play alot more)


lol at op saying that Allardyce prefers Martina... what options does Allardyce have Garbutt? and thats it...
He says is happy with Martina and he is, loads of Press saying it
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: BlueBeagle on December 18, 2017, 12:00:28 AM
What sort of pro worth his salt would want to stay at Celtic, boyhood club or not.

What a waste of a career that would be.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Thomas on December 18, 2017, 12:02:42 AM
Good player but I'd question Tierney's ambition if he stays at Celtic for another 18 months never mind 4 years.

I don't think we'll go for one in January, more likely go with what we've got or perhaps give Garbutt a squad number and wait until the summer. With or without a left back we'll still finish in or around 8th.

TBF @Gash (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=14) I've openly said I'm amazed considering the signing on fee, wages and agents cut that KT is basically rebuffing that he is prepared to follow through with his statement that he wants to stay at Celtic as a one club man like McStay.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/15637436.Kieran_Tierney__I_hope_I_go_on_to_become_a_one_club_legend_at_Celtic_like_Billy_McNeill_and_Paul_McStay/

I feel age and experience and new challenges will slowly transform that platitude into a more realistic thing. So maybe when he is at his peak we can snip him then. He's also already captain material, and we need winners and captains in our team.

Short term i think giving Garbutt a squad number and buying someone from the world cup might be the right idea.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Thomas on December 18, 2017, 12:04:34 AM
What sort of pro worth his salt would want to stay at Celtic, boyhood club or not.

What a waste of a career that would be.

Celtic is a big club around the world, although with massive domestic and financial restrictions. A contradiction in terms sure, but once they get going in Europe most realistically in the EL or even the CL they still trump the appeal of Everton in my eyes factoring out the wages and better level of players.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Thomas on December 18, 2017, 12:05:24 AM
Playing devils advocate, purely because he is a Scouser and Sam had him at WHU

Cresswell?
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: BlueForYou on December 18, 2017, 12:07:08 AM
Go all out for Sessegnon
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Thomas on December 18, 2017, 12:09:26 AM
Go all out for Sessegnon

I'd like Marcelo, the world's best, but that is not happening.

Is there anyone at the top 4 clubs who isnt getting game time we could snip? (Not Luke Shaw)
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on December 18, 2017, 12:12:13 AM
I've always thought I'd be happy with Tierney.
However we all know how poor the Scottish league is. I keep tabs on Hearts and I"ve been up to watch them recently as my mates brother plays for them, and it's it's noticeable how poor the quality is (compared to the PL), I'd say it's barely championship level, yet Hearts just spanked Celtic 4-0 today, with Tierney in the squad (who had a shocker by all accounts and was subbed after the 1st half).

At least Chilwell has PL experience.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: BlueForYou on December 18, 2017, 12:14:08 AM
Sessegnon could be tempted with the ever growing crop of young players at our club and he would displace Baines immediately, so straight into the first team

£25m?


 
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Thomas on December 18, 2017, 12:15:42 AM
I've always thought I'd be happy with Tierney.
However we all know how poor the Scottish league is. I keep tabs on Hearts and I"ve been up to watch them recently as my mates brother plays for them, and it's it's noticeable how poor the quality is (compared to the PL), I'd say it's barely championship level, yet Hearts just spanked Celtic 4-0 today, with Tierney in the squad (who had a shocker by all accounts and was subbed after the 1st half).

At least Chilwell has PL experience.

To be fair to you lad I should of said this earlier, because we (Celtic - as you know i have season tickets for both) had a complete meltdown today een with him playing but as the Cally McGregor interview says, all young players have and tbh need a dip to improve. Celtic haven't been playing well recently especially in defence but thats more to do with the CBs and BRs pass it out from the back philosophy making us look shit in Europe and away from home.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on December 18, 2017, 12:16:23 AM
Sessegnon could be tempted with the ever growing crop of young players at our club and he would displace Baines immediately, so straight into the first team

£25m?


 

In this day n age you might have to double that.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Gash on December 18, 2017, 12:18:04 AM
TBF @Gash (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=14) I've openly said I'm amazed considering the signing on fee, wages and agents cut that KT is basically rebuffing that he is prepared to follow through with his statement that he wants to stay at Celtic as a one club man like McStay.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/15637436.Kieran_Tierney__I_hope_I_go_on_to_become_a_one_club_legend_at_Celtic_like_Billy_McNeill_and_Paul_McStay/

He was saying all the right things as players do just after signing his contract but that BBC interview has a slightly different tone to it. He said he's living his dream at the moment and not thinking about other clubs but this is football so you never know what will happen which is a bit different from saying he wants to be a Paul McStay. It's all a bit romantic to think that a player of his quality will spend his whole career at Celtic playing in a poor league although if that's the height of his ambition he maybe deserves to stay there.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: BlueBeagle on December 18, 2017, 12:19:36 AM
Celtic is a big club around the world,

Honestly, it ain't.

The only people who think that are Celtic fans.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on December 18, 2017, 12:20:55 AM
To be fair to you lad I should of said this earlier, because we (Celtic - as you know i have season tickets for both) had a complete meltdown today een with him playing but as the Cally McGregor interview says, all young players have and tbh need a dip to improve. Celtic haven't been playing well recently especially in defence but thats more to do with the CBs and BRs pass it out from the back philosophy making us look shit in Europe and away from home.

Ye, I mean today's result was a 1 off, but I think it outlines my concern with Tierney, its the only niggle of concern that I have with him, that he doesn't have PL experience and we don't really know how good he is, so that puts Chilwell slightly ahead for me. I doubt Leicester would sell anyway.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Thomas on December 18, 2017, 12:22:48 AM
Honestly, it ain't.

The only people who think that are Celtic fans.

Go and have a look at what Guardiola, Messi, Stones and Hart tell you about playing there or ex players who will admit when they went there they didnt think much of the size of the club but when they left they 'got it'.

They have probably just as big a fanbase as Everton, play at a higher European Level and whatever you think of Scotland, win cups. Also try getting an away ticket for a Celtic match, its fucking solid. Everton is way easier.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: brap2 on December 18, 2017, 12:26:43 AM
Prefer cresswell over Chilwell, think Chilwell may possibly be shite, but doubt we’ll get either.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Gash on December 18, 2017, 12:27:21 AM
Go and have a look at what Guardiola, Messi, Stones and Hart tell you about playing there or ex players who will admit when they went there they didnt think much of the size of the club but when they left they 'got it'.

They have probably just as big a fanbase as Everton, play at a higher European Level and whatever you think of Scotland, win cups. Also try getting an away ticket for a Celtic match, its fucking solid. Everton is way easier.

Having a decent atmosphere doesn't make a club big. Celtic are big in Scotland and Ireland other than that they're not a big club and haven't been for a long time, the exact same goes for Rangers. As for winning cups, it's pretty hard to finish second in a one horse race and even with Rangers doing well, the odds are still pretty good in a two horse race.

Anyway, this is an Everton forum so lets talk about Everton and their left backs rather than make it into a "Celtic's better than Everton" thread.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Simon Paul on December 18, 2017, 12:32:13 AM
Luke Shaw is being put in the shop window at the moment isn't he?

Tierney had an absolute stinker today though.  When Kyle Lafferty runs you ragged then it's time to drop down to the youth team again and gain some confidence.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: kramer0 on December 18, 2017, 12:33:10 AM
Philipp Max is an interesting one. On current form, he looks like the best creative LB in the top 5 leagues -- 2.9 key passes per 90 with 9 assists to show for it (not that it's necessarily a fair comparison, but Baines' best individual season totals were 3.1 key passes per 90 and 11 assists). It's unlikely that Augsburg would be able to resist a serious offer, especially given that they have only an outside chance of CL qualification.

Concerns are that the likes of United, City, and Chelsea are being linked (we can't compete if they're serious) and that he hasn't shown this level of performance before in his career. Also, as with most defenders we're linked with, I have no idea if he can actually defend.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Cereal Killer on December 18, 2017, 12:45:12 AM
I have no idea if he can actually defend.

Doesn't seem to be a priority or even that important for full backs these days!!
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: brap2 on December 18, 2017, 12:53:09 AM
Philipp Max is an interesting one. On current form, he looks like the best creative LB in the top 5 leagues -- 2.9 key passes per 90 with 9 assists to show for it (not that it's necessarily a fair comparison, but Baines' best individual season totals were 3.1 key passes per 90 and 11 assists). It's unlikely that Augsburg would be able to resist a serious offer, especially given that they have only an outside chance of CL qualification.

Concerns are that the likes of United, City, and Chelsea are being linked (we can't compete if they're serious) and that he hasn't shown this level of performance before in his career. Also, as with most defenders we're linked with, I have no idea if he can actually defend.

Seen bad reviews defensively
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Cassius on December 18, 2017, 01:41:52 AM
I'd go all out for Sessengnon too.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: piggypop on December 18, 2017, 01:47:19 AM
What actually is it about Chilwell? Is it just that game against us when he had exactly the same running style as Baines?
I don't think he's good enough for us. He's just an average back up at Leicester.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: ally2 on December 18, 2017, 01:49:32 AM
What actually is it about Chilwell? Is it just that game against us when he had exactly the same running style as Baines?
I don't think he's good enough for us. He's just an average back up at Leicester.

Yeah that's pretty much it.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: TheRam on December 18, 2017, 02:05:43 AM
Grimaldo
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: van der Meyde on December 18, 2017, 02:46:04 AM
Think we'd have to pay brewsties to prise Cresswell away from West Ham. van Aanholt went to Palace for £14m odd last summer and they've no need to sell.

For the money we'd have to pay for either of them, given they're both 27+ and full back's an increasingly athletic position, I'd like us to go for someone with a bit more longevity with us.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: MmmblueBernard on December 18, 2017, 03:33:06 AM
Think we'd have to pay brewsties to prise Cresswell away from West Ham. van Aanholt went to Palace for £14m odd last summer and they've no need to sell.

For the money we'd have to pay for either of them, given they're both 27+ and full back's an increasingly athletic position, I'd like us to go for someone with a bit more longevity with us.

Seconded.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: therealdunc on December 18, 2017, 03:33:42 AM
He says is happy with Martina and he is, loads of Press saying it

No he doesn’t

Read what he actually says

He’s not gonna say Martina is not good enough which we all know is the case, he simply says he is happy with his effort considering he is a crap right back playing out of position.

Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: therealdunc on December 18, 2017, 03:38:04 AM
What actually is it about Chilwell? Is it just that game against us when he had exactly the same running style as Baines?
I don't think he's good enough for us. He's just an average back up at Leicester.

2 seasons ago after Leicester won the CL, Liverpool required and followed up with a bid that was rejected.

Chilwell himself has spoken about why he understands the club turned it down.

In the past 2 seasons or so, he hasn’t developed at the rate expected and failure to consistently dislodge an ageing and pretty average Fuchs is a concern.
Much similar to how Garbutt has failed to live up to his hype and failed to dislodge an ageing and declining Baines.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Faceatthefence on December 18, 2017, 05:28:42 AM
Jonas Hector at Koln should be a target for us,international left back thats the right age and with his team set adrift in the Bundesliga looks a real target.The flag wavers over the park were reported to have done a deal for him,but thats gone quiet.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: D15TIN on December 18, 2017, 01:56:30 PM
Playing devils advocate, purely because he is a Scouser and Sam had him at WHU

Cresswell?
He's a kopite, don't rate him that highly either
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: D15TIN on December 18, 2017, 01:57:54 PM
What actually is it about Chilwell? Is it just that game against us when he had exactly the same running style as Baines?
I don't think he's good enough for us. He's just an average back up at Leicester.
I remember deulofeu tearing him to pieces in his last game for us, don't rate him very highly either
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: brap2 on December 18, 2017, 02:09:24 PM
God I’d love Deulofeu back you know.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: D15TIN on December 18, 2017, 02:34:58 PM
I think Luke Shaw ticks most the boxes, the only question mark being his fitness
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: brap2 on December 18, 2017, 04:02:31 PM
I think Luke Shaw ticks most the boxes, the only question mark being his fitness

Seems to add up imo but definitely question marks over his mentality more than once in his career.

Also know a secondhand story about an interaction with him that made me think quite strongly that he is a dickhead.

Take him on loan tho like.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: bogie on December 18, 2017, 05:41:18 PM
God I’d love Deulofeu back you know.

as a left back fuck me you have lost the plot
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Waltzer on December 18, 2017, 05:45:48 PM
Think we'd have to pay brewsties to prise Cresswell away from West Ham. van Aanholt went to Palace for £14m odd last summer and they've no need to sell.

For the money we'd have to pay for either of them, given they're both 27+ and full back's an increasingly athletic position, I'd like us to go for someone with a bit more longevity with us.

Most West Ham fans think Creswell is s**t anyway and that they missed the boat not off loading him a couple seasons ago when he looked half decent. I dont think hes good enough irrespective of his age
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: everton1952 on December 18, 2017, 05:49:47 PM
Anyone seen Garbutt playing recently, or is he written off in peoples' minds? He filled in for Baines very well some time ago. He is here and he costs nothing.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Lincs Toffee on December 18, 2017, 05:52:07 PM
Anyone seen Garbutt playing recently, or is he written off in peoples' minds? He filled in for Baines very well some time ago. He is here and he costs nothing.
Saw him in a couple of games against Notts County, and Lincoln and he was ok, certainly worth registering anyway, he would however be much better if he wasn't pissing about with his hair all the time.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: van der Meyde on December 18, 2017, 06:02:48 PM
Most West Ham fans think Creswell is s**t anyway and that they missed the boat not off loading him a couple seasons ago when he looked half decent. I dont think hes good enough irrespective of his age
I'll be honest, I really haven't got a clue what any of the players we've been linked with are like. :)
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 18, 2017, 06:16:00 PM
We need to find our own players. We can't keep buying proven because they are expensive and proven and want to come here are often not a vast improvement on what we have
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: claimabstract on December 18, 2017, 06:40:31 PM
as a left back fuck me you have lost the plot
Don't really quite think he was suggesting to play him at left back ...
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Gary1878 on December 18, 2017, 09:01:58 PM
Chilwell is a ready made replacement for Baines. He runs like him as well, so if your eyes were a bit blurry, you would never know the difference!
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: april on December 18, 2017, 09:33:59 PM
The lad who played left back for West Ham v Chelsea looked an excellent player. Sorry, I don't know his name.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: D15TIN on December 20, 2017, 03:47:20 AM
The lad who played left back for West Ham v Chelsea looked an excellent player. Sorry, I don't know his name.
was it Masuaku?
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 20, 2017, 04:22:54 AM
I think Luke Shaw ticks most the boxes, the only question mark being his fitness
Empty pizza boxes, empty kebab boxes...
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: BlueForYou on December 20, 2017, 11:59:48 PM
Luke Shaw: File with Schneiderlin
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Thomas on December 21, 2017, 05:54:45 AM
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on December 21, 2017, 06:01:36 AM
Against the team bottom of the SPL though
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Thomas on December 21, 2017, 06:06:05 AM
Against the team bottom of the SPL though
True bud, true.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: blargins on December 21, 2017, 06:11:32 AM
I saw Leighton Baines on a Wigan highlights reel on Facebook the other day for some premiership page. He looked so young back then *sniff*
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Thomas on December 21, 2017, 06:14:04 AM
I saw Leighton Baines on a Wigan highlights reel on Facebook the other day for some premiership page. He looked so young back then *sniff*
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: april on December 27, 2017, 04:03:00 PM
was it Masuaku?
Yes, just seen him now again vs Bournemouth. Can’t comment on his defending, but he looks great in possession and on the attack.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: TheRam on December 27, 2017, 04:11:52 PM
Yes, just seen him now again vs Bournemouth. Can’t comment on his defending, but he looks great in possession and on the attack.

I've been thinking this but I'm sure he was really shite last season.

Last couple of games he's been brilliant, think Moyes has has even been putting him in midfield.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 27, 2017, 04:14:30 PM
He had a stinker last season till they played us. Think he is poor defensively but quick and mobile going forward
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: eugene on December 27, 2017, 04:15:03 PM
No question we need a left back, it saddens me to say bains has peeked and come out the other side, along with a striker the position is a priority to fill
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Lxxx on December 27, 2017, 04:29:29 PM
If one comes available in January then great but not really top priority. Baines is back in January and Garbutt is eligible to be used as and when needed too which, when compared to Martina in that position, has to be at least as good of an option bearing in mind he actually has a left foot so offers balance and will be playing to prove he has a future.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Gary1878 on December 27, 2017, 04:34:24 PM
Could Jonjo or Seamus do a job on the left? Imagine having both of them on the pitch if we could convert one into a LB. Depends if they practiced with their left foot against the wall when they were smaller!

Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Bluedylan on December 27, 2017, 04:49:32 PM
Anybody considered that Bainesy might be a fair bit better when he comes back now that we have some semblance of shape and defensive organisation in the team, just as all the other defenders now look much better? The rest will also have done him the world of good. Yes we need another player at LB, but I suspect he's being written off far too quickly (unusually for our fans).
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: School of Science on December 27, 2017, 05:10:25 PM
Been a great servant, but we should be looking for the new Baines now, age and injuries have taken their toll. A recurrence of his thigh injury now is the latest.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 27, 2017, 05:13:33 PM
Been a great servant, but we should be looking for the new Baines now, age and injuries have taken their toll. A recurrence of his thigh injury now is the latest.
Of course we should.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: School of Science on December 27, 2017, 05:33:17 PM
Of course we should.

To think a few years ago we had the two best fullbacks in the league, in my opinion. Our poor wingers also compound the lack of width in our team. We do need our luck to change in the new year on the injury front.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 27, 2017, 05:39:30 PM
Whether it’s Baines, Garbutt or a new signing; we need a left-footer in at LB ASAP. We simply can’t attack down the left at the moment due to Martina being so right-footed. Not his fault but our attacks constantly break down because he was to check back onto his right foot. Then the ball gets switched to the right (usually slowly) and the opposition have already anticipated it. Really stifling our play and makes us unbalanced and predictable.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Gash on December 27, 2017, 05:48:16 PM
If Garbutt's any ambition at all to play at this level he'll be knocking on the manager's door and asking for a squad number in January to be given a chance to prove himself.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 27, 2017, 05:53:51 PM
If Garbutt's any ambition at all to play at this level he'll be knocking on the manager's door and asking for a squad number in January to be given a chance to prove himself.
He's meant to be a big time Charlie which is Unreal considering he is 25 and done fuck all
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: TheRam on December 27, 2017, 06:03:48 PM
He's not going to find anyone willing to match what he's getting paid here.

He'll sit on that contract as long as he can.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: everton1952 on December 27, 2017, 06:09:15 PM
Could Jonjo or Seamus do a job on the left? Imagine having both of them on the pitch if we could convert one into a LB. Depends if they practiced with their left foot against the wall when they were smaller!


How can Seamus do a job on the left? He is out injured and according to the Echo  we may not see him for a long time to come.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Gary1878 on December 27, 2017, 06:19:39 PM
How can Seamus do a job on the left? He is out injured and according to the Echo  we may not see him for a long time to come.

Is this a special Xmas/New Year joke or are you serious? I can't tell?
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: everton1952 on December 27, 2017, 06:23:05 PM
I know the Echo is shite but today it quotes Allardyce saying that Seamus is a long way off being fit. I did not make it up. Goes to show how we were all conned into thinking a load of injured players would be available around this period. All we got is a semi fit Bolassie.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: blargins on December 27, 2017, 06:54:45 PM
I know the Echo is shite but today it quotes Allardyce saying that Seamus is a long way off being fit. I did not make it up. Goes to show how we were all conned into thinking a load of injured players would be available around this period. All we got is a semi fit Bolassie.

It was only Seamus and Bolasie who would make a difference anyway. Hardly a load.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: everton1952 on December 27, 2017, 07:10:50 PM
I agree, the others are not a great loss, unless of course Barkley had any intention of playing for us again.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Shogun on December 27, 2017, 08:06:27 PM
He's not going to find anyone willing to match what he's getting paid here.

He'll sit on that contract as long as he can.

And the club won't give him a first team chance because of the message that would send to anyone else who could be in a similar position.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Lxxx on December 27, 2017, 08:23:19 PM
And the club won't give him a first team chance because of the message that would send to anyone else who could be in a similar position.

What?
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Shogun on December 27, 2017, 08:28:38 PM
What?

The club needs to show that you can't simply hang around the U23s and wait for an opportunity in the first team whilst your in you mid-20s like McAleny and Garbutt have done.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Lxxx on December 27, 2017, 08:31:15 PM
The club needs to show that you can't simply hang around the U23s and wait for an opportunity in the first team whilst your in you mid-20s like McAleny and joe Garbutt have done.

If we have a need and he’s deemed good enough he’ll get a chance. Much as the club would like to send out positive signals we have a football club to be getting on with and if Baines isn’t fit and Allardyce wants to have a look at a left footer at left back he’ll play, regardless of what has gone on in the past or any perceived attitude issues.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: therealdunc on December 27, 2017, 08:33:56 PM
It was rumoured we enquired about Sheff Wed full back in the summer

Wonder if that’s an option
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Alanvideo on December 27, 2017, 09:23:25 PM
ECHO............
There was bad news about Leighton Baines last night.

Everton’s left-back has suffered an injury setback and will now miss the remainder of the busy festive period.

The good news is that Ross Barkley and James McCarthy are closing in on returns.

“We’ve had a bit of a setback with Leighton Baines ,” said Allardyce. “He was on the (training) field but has felt his calf again.”

“James will play in an 11 v 11 game on Wednesday. Ross Barkley is joining in training so hopefully he’s not too bad.

“However, Seamus Coleman is still a way off. That’s one we would like to get back.

“(Ramiro) Funes Mori is still way, way off, into March apparently.

“It’s tough at the moment. Hopefully when they do get fit they’ll stay fit and bring a bit more to the attacking side of our play.”
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Silas on December 27, 2017, 09:33:16 PM
Garbutts never making it at Premier league level and certainly not at Everton
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: blargins on December 27, 2017, 09:36:10 PM
Forgot all about Mori as well.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Bluedylan on December 27, 2017, 09:36:21 PM
Why are people even talking about Garbutt? Have I fallen asleep and woke up in 2014?
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: eugene on December 27, 2017, 09:50:53 PM
https://www.101greatgoals.com/news/details-evertons-e20million-transfer-revealed/
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on December 27, 2017, 10:15:12 PM
Garbutt is too busy buying his bird premium German motors to worry about playing footy.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Lxxx on December 27, 2017, 10:32:06 PM
Garbutts never making it at Premier league level and certainly not at Everton

You're right, but if he doesn't get picked it's because he's not good enough not because it's to send a message out to anyone else about coasting through a career.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 27, 2017, 10:37:58 PM
Garbutts never making it at Premier league level and certainly not at Everton
Three years ago people were outraged he didn't get in an England squad......
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Alanvideo on December 27, 2017, 10:53:35 PM
Three years ago people were outraged he didn't get in an England squad......
..................well he did take a good corner once . :wag:
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: brap2 on December 27, 2017, 11:26:24 PM
More chance of antonee Robinson making it at LB than Garbutt.

We’ll get a LB in jan I reckon
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: TheRam on December 27, 2017, 11:28:01 PM
Think people only talk of Garbutt because the decision not to even register him in the squad was ridiculous.

Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Polledreng on December 27, 2017, 11:39:10 PM
..................well he did take a good corner once . :wag:
I was there... against Wolfsburg  ;)
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Thomas on January 01, 2018, 04:55:01 AM
Against the team bottom of the SPL though
Voted best LB in CL Groups though.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Shogun on January 01, 2018, 04:59:56 AM
Voted best LB in CL Groups though.

Is that even a thing?
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Thomas on January 01, 2018, 05:07:15 AM
Is that even a thing?
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/newsid=2526639.html#/

"Defender: Kieran Tierney (Celtic), 20
At 20, Tierney has already played over 100 matches for Celtic and captained Scotland. Rated the best British-born left-back of his generation, the youngster's assist for Leigh Griffiths' goal in the 3-0 win at Anderlecht was Tierney at his swashbuckling best."


Breakthrough team 2017
(https://img.uefa.com//MultimediaFiles/Photo/competitions/General/02/52/76/74//2527674_w1.jpg)
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Shogun on January 01, 2018, 05:13:43 AM
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/newsid=2526639.html#/

"Defender: Kieran Tierney (Celtic), 20
At 20, Tierney has already played over 100 matches for Celtic and captained Scotland. Rated the best British-born left-back of his generation, the youngster's assist for Leigh Griffiths' goal in the 3-0 win at Anderlecht was Tierney at his swashbuckling best."


Breakthrough team 2017
(https://img.uefa.com//MultimediaFiles/Photo/competitions/General/02/52/76/74//2527674_w1.jpg)


Fair play.

He was voted the best U24 left back making his Champions League debut in 2017 then.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Thomas on January 01, 2018, 05:21:18 AM
Fair play.

He was voted the best U24 left back making his Champions League debut in 2017 then.

I thought the lad from Porto would get it, but considering who he is up against and the league he regularly plays in, a good start. He was so so vs The Hun though.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Gash on January 01, 2018, 06:52:40 AM
Keep thinking I've logged into TalkCeltic when I read this thread.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Ramjam on January 01, 2018, 07:08:31 AM
What about the young 17 year old from Fulham who’s name is difficult to spell. Has a brother playing in the Fulham team as well if I’m not mistaken
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: therealdunc on January 01, 2018, 02:54:12 PM
Rufus Brevett?
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: MmmblueBernard on January 01, 2018, 02:56:47 PM
Rufus Brevett?

Sounds like a hipsters choice of breakfast.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Thornton_19 on January 01, 2018, 07:25:11 PM
What about the young 17 year old from Fulham who's name is difficult to spell. Has a brother playing in the Fulham team as well if I'm not mistaken
Meant to be off to Southampton.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: BlueForYou on January 01, 2018, 07:43:57 PM
Real Madrid, more like
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on January 01, 2018, 08:35:29 PM
Hopefully a genuine link to a LB emerges in the coming days. Need one ASAP.
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Shogun on January 01, 2018, 11:13:01 PM
Antonee Robinson is doing well at Bolton
Title: Re: Left Back - Do we buy one in January?
Post by: Ramjam on January 02, 2018, 08:32:26 AM
Meant to be off to Southampton.

Getting prepared for his move to the RS then