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Title: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: pjk on December 24, 2017, 03:51:31 PM
These are the sort of games where we need to keep picking up points. Pardews one of the biggest plonkers going, and they're the worst form team around, so I would expect us to beat these.  :)




Just been looking at the form, and it's actually Watford who are the worst form team. Who's their manager, is it Marca Silvo? :snigger:
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: sam of the south on December 24, 2017, 03:56:11 PM
I don't expect a win yet.

Let's not forget, our recent win at Newcastle was our first away win for 17 years, or something.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Bluedylan on December 24, 2017, 03:58:00 PM
Anything less than a 10-0 win and I want him gone.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: The Analog Kid on December 24, 2017, 04:00:10 PM
They were shite against Stoke yesterday like. I canít stand Pardew either.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Macca77 on December 24, 2017, 04:04:06 PM
These are shite, gonna be a truly awful game to watch isnt it, scrappy 1-0 to us
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 24, 2017, 04:11:16 PM
They shouldn't really be troubling us at the back with Rondon and Robson-Kanu who have about 3 goals in their last 100 appearances between them, the issue is can we control the ball enough to trouble them at the other end. Need Rooney back for this to create something. I'm going for a scrappy 1-0 away win.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: sam of the south on December 24, 2017, 04:13:40 PM
If Jagielka is also injured along with Gana, I would rotate a bit and rock up in The Midlands like this and take it 3-0
                      Pickford
        Kenny Holgate Keane Martina
             Schneiderlin Rooney
                    Sigurdsson
        Lookman Calvert-Lewin Vlasic

Robles, Williams, Davies, Baningime, Lennon, Bolasie, Sandro
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: brap2 on December 24, 2017, 04:28:52 PM
4 points against Bournemouth and West Brom would be good considering our away form.

6 would be superb.

1 would be crap.

2 would be a bit disappointing.

Edit:

Absolutely no order to that ^ what an odd way to do it.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 24, 2017, 04:29:37 PM
I don't think he'll trust Holgate and Keane together away from home, not with the inexperience of Kenny and Pickford and Cuco out of position on the left. Williams in for Jags for me and he'll use Holgate when we next play at home for his distribution to help break teams down.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: mikey_blue on December 24, 2017, 04:45:52 PM
.                   Pickford
Kenny Holgate Williams Martina
                     Morgs
           Rooney        Sig         
Lennon           DCL             Vlasic

Steamroll them 1-0 with a sublime rebounded penalty.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Mayor Farnum on December 24, 2017, 04:55:56 PM
I'm trying to think what usually happens when we go away to a team that hasn't won since Adam was a lad.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Ramjam on December 24, 2017, 05:32:26 PM
I'm trying to think what usually happens when we go away to a team that hasn't won since Adam was a lad.

Pity we werenít playing Christmas Eve then
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Rodenplav64 on December 24, 2017, 05:34:05 PM
Never easy playing a team who will set up not to get beat as Chelsea found out yesterday but we should have too much confidence for these . 2-0 for us .
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Simon Paul on December 24, 2017, 05:53:44 PM
Gareth Barry hat trick

When he scores his third he runs up to the bench to punch Koeman in the face only for Big Sam to tell him the news (Barry doesn't have the internet and doesn't believe in newspapers, he says they are evil) at which point he rips off his "Fuck you Koeman" t-shirt and sets fire to it, before walking off down the tunnel muttering "Well that was a waste of my Christmas money wasn't it"
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: ncstate4jpc on December 24, 2017, 05:58:07 PM
Think we go down 0-2, fight back and nick it 3-2
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Macca77 on December 24, 2017, 05:59:47 PM
6 points from our next 2 games is getable, im 75% certain of that
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: TheRam on December 24, 2017, 05:59:47 PM
Pards still looking for his first win as West Brom boss.

Merry Christmas.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: sam of the south on December 24, 2017, 06:03:03 PM
Pards still looking for his first win as West Brom boss.

Merry Christmas.

Ugh, I bet he does that awful hip swivel dance
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: sam of the south on December 24, 2017, 06:04:39 PM
Ugh, I bet he does that awful hip swivel dance

Actually, they could have a cringey dance off


Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on December 24, 2017, 06:05:13 PM
Comfortable win us 2-0

With 2 shots on target all game....both penalties.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Bluedylan on December 24, 2017, 06:07:01 PM
They were better than Stoke yesterday and deserved summat more. Won't be easy.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blargins on December 24, 2017, 06:11:54 PM
Comfortable win us 2-0

With 2 shots on target all game....both penalties.

Rooney must still be out sick for that to happen.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 24, 2017, 06:21:01 PM
I'd like to see Vlasic get a game here. His ability to keep hold of the football is one of the best at the club and away from home we need to try and get a foothold in the game offensively to threaten the opposition goal at bit more than we have done in the past 12 months.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Ross on December 24, 2017, 06:23:37 PM
Another high octane game full of attacking intentions and dynamic inspirational football awaits.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: brap2 on December 24, 2017, 07:03:30 PM
Pards still looking for his first win as West Brom boss.

Merry Christmas.

Enter Everton, stage left
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: SANA_DR0 on December 24, 2017, 07:08:26 PM
post match presser from Chelsea, towards the end it has the pre game interview for WBA, all done together due to christmas day

Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: TSGun on December 24, 2017, 07:53:42 PM
It's hard to believe we're the form team points gained wise behind Man City this month. Kind of doesn't feel like it.

Although far from simple this is a really good game to get quickly back to winning ways. That mentality is an elixir.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: everton1952 on December 24, 2017, 07:54:23 PM
Don't like playing a team which has not won for a club record number of consecutive games. Difficult one this, with maybe  a crazy Boxing Day result.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: School of Science on December 24, 2017, 08:45:20 PM
Anything less than a 10-0 win and I want him gone.

Does this mean there's a chance........
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: BlueBeagle on December 24, 2017, 09:32:58 PM
Another high octane game full of attacking intentions and dynamic inspirational football awaits.

Couldn't give a fuck as long as there's 3 points at the end of it
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: American Evertonian on December 24, 2017, 10:02:44 PM
If Jagielka is also injured along with Gana, I would rotate a bit and rock up in The Midlands like this and take it 3-0
                      Pickford
        Kenny Holgate Keane Martina
             Schneiderlin Rooney
                    Sigurdsson
        Lookman Calvert-Lewin Vlasic

Robles, Williams, Davies, Baningime, Lennon, Bolasie, Sandro

That bench is tasty. Plenty of options top run the ragged if drawing late in the match
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: gizzblue on December 24, 2017, 10:04:14 PM
Smash these 3-0
On the break .
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: everton1952 on December 24, 2017, 10:59:59 PM
Family friends all WBA fans tell me we face a Boxing Day holiday aerial onslaught. They are really up for making it Pardew's first win and break this bad run of theirs.  I am not looking forward to it at all. A draw will be an achievement with our centre backs under huge pressure.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Paddockoldie on December 24, 2017, 11:04:19 PM
Can only see a win here really. DCL needs more support than he had the other day and these will allow us more scope for actually playing football. Rooney back to mid too with Siggy number 10
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: pjk on December 24, 2017, 11:04:23 PM
Family friends all WBA fans tell me we face a Boxing Day holiday aerial onslaught. They are really up for making it Pardew's first win and break this bad run of theirs.  I am not looking forward to it at all. A draw will be an achievement with our centre backs under huge pressure.



The trouble with that is, they're West Brom fans and they will say stuff like that. They are a very poor team and even at our average best, we're still superior to them. I can't say with certainty that we won't get beat, but I can say we're a much better team.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: brap2 on December 25, 2017, 12:14:22 AM
We should smash the arse off em really but a Boxing Day pards miracle wouldnít be surprising
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Juanito on December 25, 2017, 02:22:37 AM
              Pickford
Kenny Williams Keane Holgate
       Schneiderlin Davies
Vlasic      Rooney    Sigurdsson
                DCL
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: American Evertonian on December 25, 2017, 02:38:28 AM
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Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Dr. Sponge on December 25, 2017, 07:50:29 AM
              Pickford
Kenny Williams Keane Holgate
       Schneiderlin Davies
Vlasic      Rooney    Sigurdsson
                DCL

That's a good side that. But also I've have plenty gin and tonics so dunno.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blargins on December 25, 2017, 10:03:46 AM
That's a good side that. But also I've have plenty gin and tonics so dunno.
Itís great it just lacks fire power. Sooner we can replace DCL with a striker who can score the better.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: therealdunc on December 25, 2017, 03:16:45 PM
Going to be a tough game IMO

Not hopeful , expect the manager to rotate a few players with so many games coming up

Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: TheRam on December 25, 2017, 04:50:40 PM
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sam-allardyce-explains-everton-wont-14073698
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 25, 2017, 05:09:38 PM
Don't like playing a team which has not won for a club record number of consecutive games. Difficult one this, with maybe  a crazy Boxing Day result.

Why? Iíd much rather this than a team who havenít lost for a club record number of consecutive games. Bonkers mentality.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Django on December 25, 2017, 07:22:46 PM
Merry Christmas everyone.

Source said it isnít 100% confirmed but think Lennon, Niasse and Bolasie tomorrow
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blue1948 on December 25, 2017, 07:40:51 PM
Actually, they could have a cringey dance off


The saddest thing about that was I watched it !
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blue1948 on December 25, 2017, 07:47:41 PM
Why? Iíd much rather this than a team who havenít lost for a club record number of consecutive games. Bonkers mentality.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sam-allardyce-explains-everton-wont-14073698
Interesting even the players who are not Christians wore hats but Williams didn't ? Maybe he didn't want to damage his locks!
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blargins on December 25, 2017, 08:43:15 PM
Interesting even the players who are not Christians wore hats but Williams didn't ? Maybe he didn't want to damage his locks!
What does being on not being Christian have to do with it? Christians, atheists, Muslims, Jews etc celebrate Christmas.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Confucius on December 25, 2017, 10:03:06 PM
What does being on not being Christian have to do with it? Christians, atheists, Muslims, Jews etc celebrate Christmas.

Muslims, Jews etc not supposed to celebrate Christmas. Just in it for the chocolates to be fair.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blargins on December 25, 2017, 11:58:46 PM
Muslims, Jews etc not supposed to celebrate Christmas. Just in it for the chocolates to be fair.

Spent several great Christmas's with Muslims and Jews in France. But then again, it seems most kids there don't know it's supposed to be about the birth of JC. Beauty of the secular country.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blue1948 on December 26, 2017, 12:13:51 AM
What does being on not being Christian have to do with it? Christians, atheists, Muslims, Jews etc celebrate Christmas.
We don't see eye to eye on lots of things I suppose but you must have seen the clue ! CHRISTmas
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blargins on December 26, 2017, 12:17:06 AM
We don't see eye to eye on lots of things I suppose but you must have seen the clue ! CHRISTmas

That only works in English. Noel is French for Christmas. Don't see anything about Christ there. Besides, there's nothing about Christmas in the bible anyway.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blue1948 on December 26, 2017, 12:19:28 AM
That only works in English. Noel is French for Christmas. Don't see anything about Christ there. Besides, there's nothing about Christmas in the bible anyway.
I am on a roll here ,you might also realise that the language used on is English .No mention of French or indeed the bible but go on----
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blargins on December 26, 2017, 12:25:08 AM
I am on a roll here ,you might also realise that the language used on is English .No mention of French or indeed the bible but go on----

Do you want to continue this elsewhere? Rather than derailing the main purpose of this thread?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 26, 2017, 12:44:30 AM
I always get gay vibes from Barry when heís interviewed. Not that it matters at all.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: American Evertonian on December 26, 2017, 01:29:33 AM
Do you want to continue this elsewhere? Rather than derailing the main purpose of this thread?

I'm on team blarg for this round. The holiday has been commercialized so every faith and atheists celebrate it in some capacity. Nothing wrong with other faiths celebrating when Christians, Jews, and Muslims all have Jesus as part of their theology.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: sam of the south on December 26, 2017, 01:31:43 AM
I always get gay vibes from Barry when heís interviewed. Not that it matters at all.

Yes, I get a massive erection when I see him too
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Simon Paul on December 26, 2017, 01:41:35 AM
Do you want to continue this elsewhere? Rather than derailing the main purpose of this thread?

Fucking love drunk Blarg

Offering lids out all over the gaff!
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: TheRam on December 26, 2017, 01:47:14 AM
Bit worried about Wayne Rooney having Crimbo off tbh lads.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: pjk on December 26, 2017, 01:51:24 AM
Rooney's back with his missus. Posted on Twitter with his family. Colleen's got his back. :wag:
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: brap2 on December 26, 2017, 02:17:11 AM
Bit worried about Wayne Rooney having Crimbo off tbh lads.

Guarantee heís talking the ear off some sort with big Chebs in his local as we speak.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: sam of the south on December 26, 2017, 02:25:42 AM
Guarantee heís talking the ear off some sort with big Chebs in his local as we speak.

Chebs 👌🏼
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 26, 2017, 02:38:11 AM
Wish there was a pub open around here, I'm about to commit mass murder
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blue slug on December 26, 2017, 02:39:56 AM
Iím pretty bored sat home alone after dropping the kids off to the ex jimmy but Iím in stafford so a bit of a trek lol
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on December 26, 2017, 08:41:31 AM
Is Rooney still out?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Confucius on December 26, 2017, 08:49:12 AM
Is Rooney still out?

I am sure he is home by now.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Ramjam on December 26, 2017, 12:16:15 PM
I am sure he is home by now.

Nice 1, but whoís home in he in?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Bluedylan on December 26, 2017, 02:21:13 PM
Going to be a tough game IMO

Not hopeful , expect the manager to rotate a few players with so many games coming up



You're doing a top job of lowering collective expectations, so that every game seems rock hard, and so that people think Allardyce is doing an unbelievable job by getting wins over poor teams.

Hasn't gone unnoticed.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Silas on December 26, 2017, 02:44:39 PM
Yeah we should be winning today, Allardyce is doing well but we are a better team than West Brom. A loss would be poor here.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Ramjam on December 26, 2017, 02:58:44 PM
Its going to be tough, we are tighter at the back but still lacking in the final third. Iíve predicted a score draw and hoping to be proved wrong with a win. This is a huge test of Sams game strategy going away to a team that we should be beating, has he got the tactics to get the cigar. Weíll see.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: therealdunc on December 26, 2017, 03:24:31 PM
You're doing a top job of lowering collective expectations, so that every game seems rock hard, and so that people think Allardyce is doing an unbelievable job by getting wins over poor teams.

Hasn't gone unnoticed.

We are playing a team desperate for a win at their ground
Add to that the 3 player and manager interviews on their website all discuss doing everything to stop their losing record

Add to that our team isnít very good going forward
Our midfield is pretty average at best, badly unbalanced with a No.10 playing left wing,
No Gueye,
Davies stinking the place out
Arron Lennon still his ineffective self

To top all that off our main striker is a kid who while trying his best is not good enough


That is why it will be a tough game

Facts and evidence seem to be a real inconvenience to you
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Silas on December 26, 2017, 03:38:10 PM
We are playing a team desperate for a win at their ground
Add to that the 3 player and manager interviews on their website all discuss doing everything to stop their losing record

Add to that our team isnít very good going forward
Our midfield is pretty average at best, badly unbalanced with a No.10 playing left wing,
No Gueye,
Davies stinking the place out
Arron Lennon still his ineffective self

To top all that off our main striker is a kid who while trying his best is not good enough


That is why it will be a tough game

Facts and evidence seem to be a real inconvenience to you

Its Alan Pardews West Brom though.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Macca77 on December 26, 2017, 03:48:15 PM
Rooney's back with his missus. Posted on Twitter with his family. Colleen's got his back. :wag:

I wished him and Colleen a happy Xmas on twitter, the twat didn't reply. Then again, neither did Zac Effron, Hugh Jackman, Russell Crowe or Sly Stallone

Twats
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Bluedylan on December 26, 2017, 03:49:50 PM
We are playing a team desperate for a win at their ground
Add to that the 3 player and manager interviews on their website all discuss doing everything to stop their losing record

Add to that our team isnít very good going forward
Our midfield is pretty average at best, badly unbalanced with a No.10 playing left wing,
No Gueye,
Davies stinking the place out
Arron Lennon still his ineffective self

To top all that off our main striker is a kid who while trying his best is not good enough


That is why it will be a tough game

Facts and evidence seem to be a real inconvenience to you

Almost everything you've just said is opinion. Your grasp of 'facts' is about the level of Rafa Benitez's.

In my opinion, we've got better players than them in almost every position. We have a better manager than them (not hard). Of course they're desperate for a win. So what. They've not won in the Prem since August (that one's a fact). 17 games without a win, which is the worst ever winless run in their history. The new manager has 2 points in five games. They're 19th.

You can sell Chelsea as a hard game to win but we should be beating these every day of the week, so let's not pretend Sam will be performing a managerial miracle if we do overcome them.

Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: TheRam on December 26, 2017, 04:25:09 PM
If you think Aaron Lennon is ineffective then football really isn't the sport for you.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 26, 2017, 04:29:28 PM
If you think Aaron Lennon is ineffective then football really isn't the sport for you.
I can see, in a world filled with stats, someone could say he is ineffective
Stats don't tell the whole story tho
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: AllyBlue14 on December 26, 2017, 05:11:52 PM
Almost everything you've just said is opinion. Your grasp of 'facts' is about the level of Rafa Benitez's.

In my opinion, we've got better players than them in almost every position. We have a better manager than them (not hard). Of course they're desperate for a win. So what. They've not won in the Prem since August (that one's a fact). 17 games without a win, which is the worst ever winless run in their history. The new manager has 2 points in five games. They're 19th.

You can sell Chelsea as a hard game to win but we should be beating these every day of the week, so let's not pretend Sam will be performing a managerial miracle if we do overcome them.

All this could have been said for Chelsea against us, though. There aren't any 'easy' games in this league, especially away from home - there are definitely those we should be targeting as potential wins and this falls under that bracket.

Whereas therealdunc has made it sound like we're taking on Barcelona with 7 men, you've done the opposite and made it sound like a kickabout in the park. Presumably with the opposite intention of underplaying a potential victory or using it as evidence against Allardyce if we lose.

It's going to be a difficult game, they were unlucky against Stoke and had United holding on at the end. With the way we have played this season, I'm not sure we can legitimately be considered favourites in any game just yet (although I'm not saying we're underdogs for this) - it may be quite to similar to the Newcastle match. If we get a similar result to that, it'll be a good job done in me eyes.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Bluedylan on December 26, 2017, 05:27:42 PM
All this could have been said for Chelsea against us, though. There aren't any 'easy' games in this league, especially away from home - there are definitely those we should be targeting as potential wins and this falls under that bracket.

Whereas therealdunc has made it sound like we're taking on Barcelona with 7 men, you've done the opposite and made it sound like a kickabout in the park. Presumably with the opposite intention of underplaying a potential victory or using it as evidence against Allardyce if we lose.

It's going to be a difficult game, they were unlucky against Stoke and had United holding on at the end. With the way we have played this season, I'm not sure we can legitimately be considered favourites in any game just yet (although I'm not saying we're underdogs for this) - it may be quite to similar to the Newcastle match. If we get a similar result to that, it'll be a good job done in me eyes.

Nope, if you read around my other comments, I've repeatedly given Allardyce credit for his start, said that anyone who doesn't acknowledge that is mad or a liar, and said I'll get beyond my preconceptions and judge him on the team's performances and results.

I'm just keen to challenge the 'Allardyce is working miracles' propaganda that a few people are pushing on here.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: TheRam on December 26, 2017, 05:44:03 PM
I reckon Bolasie will start this.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 26, 2017, 05:44:38 PM
I'll take a halfway house kind of stance on this one. Whilst we're playing West Brom and they're on a horrible run, confidence is low, they have no real firepower to speak of and they're generally quite shite.... we aren't playing great, we're getting the rub of the green, it's away from home and for some reason we have a mental block away from Goodison.
I'm not demanding a win but I'm certainly not anticipating a defeat. A scrappy victory while we still try and find some consistency of play with the ball is about what I'd expect to see. 
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 26, 2017, 05:57:41 PM
Nope, if you read around my other comments, I've repeatedly given Allardyce credit for his start, said that anyone who doesn't acknowledge that is mad or a liar, and said I'll get beyond my preconceptions and judge him on the team's performances and results.

I'm just keen to challenge the 'Allardyce is working miracles' propaganda that a few people are pushing on here.

14pts from 18 is absolutely the top end of what we could achieve.

Allardyce has been brilliant so far
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: therealdunc on December 26, 2017, 06:01:50 PM
If you think Aaron Lennon is ineffective then football really isn't the sport for you.

Arron Lennon was a spurs reserve and reject for a reason

He is not very effective and offers little

We can do so much better

Our wingers are crap, letís not pretend otherwise

Mirallas - a complete failure, turns up about 3 times a season

Lennon - crap

Bolasie - bit of a donkey who mis hits more crosses than successful ones, we paid well over the odds

But is bolasie better than Lennon? Of course, itís not hard

Iím sorry, we are really short of quality down the flanks
And I donít consider lookman nor Vlasic wingers as quite simply they are not.
Sigurdsson clearly isnít a winger.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Everton Mint on December 26, 2017, 06:19:33 PM
What's the odds on Gaz Baz getting their winner ?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Bluedylan on December 26, 2017, 06:21:18 PM
14pts from 18 is absolutely the top end of what we could achieve.

Allardyce has been brilliant so far

11 out of 15. Yeah, good start agreed.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 26, 2017, 06:27:56 PM
Arron Lennon was a spurs reserve and reject for a reason

He is not very effective and offers little

We can do so much better

Our wingers are crap, letís not pretend otherwise

Mirallas - a complete failure, turns up about 3 times a season

Lennon - crap

Bolasie - bit of a donkey who mis hits more crosses than successful ones, we paid well over the odds

But is bolasie better than Lennon? Of course, itís not hard

Iím sorry, we are really short of quality down the flanks
And I donít consider lookman nor Vlasic wingers as quite simply they are not.
Sigurdsson clearly isnít a winger.


Bolasie is a very good player. Inconsistent 1 minute to the next but when he was playing he consistently made great chances. Lennon is very good defensively. The others are either crap or not ready.
We definitely need an upgrade on Lennon if we want to be a more attacking team though
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 26, 2017, 06:28:47 PM
11 out of 15. Yeah, good start agreed.

See you're still under selling it. 11 out of 15 is a fantastic start.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: mikey_blue on December 26, 2017, 06:30:12 PM
Arron Lennon was a spurs reserve and reject for a reason

He is not very effective and offers little

We can do so much better

Our wingers are crap, let's not pretend otherwise

Mirallas - a complete failure, turns up about 3 times a season

Lennon - crap

Bolasie - bit of a donkey who mis hits more crosses than successful ones, we paid well over the odds

But is bolasie better than Lennon? Of course, it's not hard

I'm sorry, we are really short of quality down the flanks
And I don't consider lookman nor Vlasic wingers as quite simply they are not.
Sigurdsson clearly isn't a winger.

Have a day off, mate.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Macca77 on December 26, 2017, 06:41:59 PM
Rooney back, Bolasie starts
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: AllyBlue14 on December 26, 2017, 07:02:55 PM
Nope, if you read around my other comments, I've repeatedly given Allardyce credit for his start, said that anyone who doesn't acknowledge that is mad or a liar, and said I'll get beyond my preconceptions and judge him on the team's performances and results.

I'm just keen to challenge the 'Allardyce is working miracles' propaganda that a few people are pushing on here.

I wouldn't say miracles, but he has organised us a lot quicker than we were expecting and results have been impressive.

My main issue is the preconceptions - not just you but from everyone, for and against. For all our pontificating and expostulating, it really doesn't change anything and ultimately we all want Everton to do well.

I don't care what's gone previously, he's done pretty well up to now. Long may it continue. I'm on board for the long term (if he's doing well, why not?) or at least until we suffer a downturn like we did under the last two.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blargins on December 26, 2017, 07:11:54 PM
Rooney back, Bolasie starts

That's a bold move if true.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Dr. Sponge on December 26, 2017, 07:26:40 PM
I think we'll win this. Our tails are up and I trust the coaching team will have the experience to get our mentality right for it. Scrappy as fuck though.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: bluestevie on December 26, 2017, 07:43:52 PM
Arron Lennon was a spurs reserve and reject for a reason

He is not very effective and offers little

We can do so much better

Our wingers are crap, letís not pretend otherwise

Mirallas - a complete failure, turns up about 3 times a season

Lennon - crap

Bolasie - bit of a donkey who mis hits more crosses than successful ones, we paid well over the odds

But is bolasie better than Lennon? Of course, itís not hard

Iím sorry, we are really short of quality down the flanks
And I donít consider lookman nor Vlasic wingers as quite simply they are not.
Sigurdsson clearly isnít a winger.


Think you need to add an e to the end of your username if you seriously think Lennon is crap pal
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Alanvideo on December 26, 2017, 07:51:51 PM
No Rooney or Sandro according to the Echo
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: American Evertonian on December 26, 2017, 07:58:28 PM
Arron Lennon was a spurs reserve and reject for a reason

He is not very effective and offers little

We can do so much better

Our wingers are crap, letís not pretend otherwise

Mirallas - a complete failure, turns up about 3 times a season

Lennon - crap

Bolasie - bit of a donkey who mis hits more crosses than successful ones, we paid well over the odds

But is bolasie better than Lennon? Of course, itís not hard

Iím sorry, we are really short of quality down the flanks
And I donít consider lookman nor Vlasic wingers as quite simply they are not.
Sigurdsson clearly isnít a winger.


I don't really care to discuss your points. But can you please just explain to me why you are double spacing every sentence.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: American Evertonian on December 26, 2017, 07:59:31 PM
No Rooney or Sandro according to the Echo

Disappointing not to have Sandro involved unless he has a knock or is being rested to start on the weekend. Was expecting him to get more time after his 45min against Chelsea.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Macca77 on December 26, 2017, 08:01:31 PM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/945655456151818244
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: American Evertonian on December 26, 2017, 08:01:41 PM
According to the ECHO  no Rooney, Gueye (obvious absence), Mirallas, Sandro, or Klaassen.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Ross on December 26, 2017, 08:02:07 PM
Welcome back Bolasie.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Bluedylan on December 26, 2017, 08:02:34 PM
3-4-2-1?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: American Evertonian on December 26, 2017, 08:02:58 PM
5-1-3-1

Hmmmm. Can't say Big Sam refuses to try something new.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blargins on December 26, 2017, 08:03:04 PM
5 at the back against West Brom? Um... why?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Cozzie on December 26, 2017, 08:04:24 PM
Nice to see Yannick back.

Can't work out the formation though.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blargins on December 26, 2017, 08:04:49 PM
Cheeky buggers NBC. They're offering a $10 discount for their video streams of all premier league games. We're half way through the season, it should be a 50% discount now. To think this was included in my cable bill last year.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Zoolander on December 26, 2017, 08:05:09 PM
I expect Cuco and Kenny to be pushed forward for the majority
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: American Evertonian on December 26, 2017, 08:06:14 PM
Cheeky buggers NBC. They're offering a $10 discount for their video streams of all premier league games. We're half way through the season, it should be a 50% discount now. To think this was included in my cable bill last year.

I just went ahead and paid it at the beginning of the season. (Un)Fortunately for me Everton have been on NBC Gold a bit more frequently.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 26, 2017, 08:06:59 PM
What's that formation??
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 26, 2017, 08:07:15 PM
Unless he's asking Holgate to be the extra man by strolling into midfield I can't see the need to play 3 centre halves against possibly the poorest attack in the league. 
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: toffee_scot on December 26, 2017, 08:08:14 PM
I wonder what the odds are of Allardyce making 2 subs again at half time.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 26, 2017, 08:08:40 PM
I expect Cuco and Kenny to be pushed forward for the majority

Kenny aye, not sure the value in Martina bombing up and down the pitch on his weaker side.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Alanvideo on December 26, 2017, 08:12:04 PM
What's that formation??
...........Christmas tree ?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Everton Mint on December 26, 2017, 08:13:05 PM
Rooney absent over Xmas per his contract as someone said the other day.

Could this be true... he looked fine in the family photo yesterday ?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blargins on December 26, 2017, 08:13:42 PM
I just went ahead and paid it at the beginning of the season. (Un)Fortunately for me Everton have been on NBC Gold a bit more frequently.

I'm glad I didn't pay for it especially the first half of the season.

But it's like selling 2017 calenders for close to full price when it's June 2017.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 26, 2017, 08:14:46 PM
The fact Niasse is in the squad should put to bed the rumours he's a makeweight in any deal for Tosun.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: TheRam on December 26, 2017, 08:18:29 PM
Rooney has well got Crimbo off haha
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blargins on December 26, 2017, 08:20:14 PM
Any streams for this as yet?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Goaljira on December 26, 2017, 08:20:52 PM
Rooney has well got Crimbo off haha

Unites fans were taking the piss at the weekend as it seems it was a regular occurance for them too.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blargins on December 26, 2017, 08:27:31 PM
Rooney has well got Crimbo off haha

I read somewhere that he was on the night nurse.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Everton Mint on December 26, 2017, 08:30:16 PM
Echo:
Rooney travelled with the team last night but was sent home sick this morning.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Heisenberg on December 26, 2017, 08:30:36 PM
Shouldn't be playing 5 at the back against these
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: sam of the south on December 26, 2017, 08:34:47 PM
Davies in the Martina Babysitting role this time.

Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Cereal Killer on December 26, 2017, 08:35:21 PM
Echo:
Rooney travelled with the team last night but was sent home sick this morning.

Hungover again? Fuck sake  :cheers:
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: The Analog Kid on December 26, 2017, 08:36:12 PM
Rooney absent over Xmas per his contract as someone said the other day.

Could this be true... he looked fine in the family photo yesterday ?

I looked fine in my family photo when really I was pissed as a bastard and the elastic had gone in my sock.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: hannu on December 26, 2017, 08:48:10 PM
any ace streams guys?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Everton Mint on December 26, 2017, 08:49:39 PM
Three at the back today in Gueye's DM absence I assume.

Classic Big Sam... keep a clean sheet first.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: mikey_blue on December 26, 2017, 08:53:38 PM
Didn't we go to a 5 at the back on the second half against Chelsea?

Big Sam said that our ball retention was better in the second half. Maybe that's his reasoning.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Bluedylan on December 26, 2017, 08:54:34 PM
http://cricbox.co/channels/ch3.php
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: everton1952 on December 26, 2017, 08:55:02 PM
Davies to be subbed at half time, or he scores twice and proves me an idiot.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: sam of the south on December 26, 2017, 08:56:34 PM
No Vlasic again.

I hope he gets some game time over the Xmas period, he's impressed me more than most of the other players whenever I've seen him.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 26, 2017, 08:57:28 PM
Any other streams? BD's not working for me
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Bluedylan on December 26, 2017, 08:58:48 PM
Any other streams? BD's not working for me


http://www.hrertw.ga/p/hreretw-8.html
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Everton Mint on December 26, 2017, 08:59:22 PM
http://premierleague-lives.com/live/everton-live-stream-2/channel-1/
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 26, 2017, 08:59:32 PM
http://www.hrertw.ga/p/hreretw-8.html

Thanks a lot :)
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Goaljira on December 26, 2017, 09:01:19 PM
Not the best kit selection to stop colour clashes.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: mikey_blue on December 26, 2017, 09:01:51 PM
Any streams for iPhone. Long shot probably
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Bluedylan on December 26, 2017, 09:02:54 PM
Looks like a 5-2-1-2 with Gylfi in behind DCL and Bolasie.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Everton Mint on December 26, 2017, 09:04:57 PM
http://cricbox.co/channels/ch3.php
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Everton Mint on December 26, 2017, 09:06:27 PM
Keane lucky there, lost Rondon.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Fynci on December 26, 2017, 09:07:36 PM
Iím pretending we are 1-0 down. That Rondon miss was terrible.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Bluedylan on December 26, 2017, 09:08:39 PM
If this game was a town in North America it would be Grimsville, USA.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: everton1952 on December 26, 2017, 09:09:50 PM
So is that idiot on Radio Merseyside. He said the game was poor after 2 minutes.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blargins on December 26, 2017, 09:10:26 PM
It amazes me when we play the likes of Arsenal away, we'll wear our away kit when blue and red is already quite clear on who's who.

We play West Brom and the kits are so close together. Today is when we should be in our away kit.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Tinga on December 26, 2017, 09:10:44 PM
Who picked these kits. Awful.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Everton Mint on December 26, 2017, 09:10:53 PM
Usual slow start and riding our luck.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 26, 2017, 09:12:00 PM
What we would give for a player who can put his foot on the ball in the middle of the park.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Heisenberg on December 26, 2017, 09:12:00 PM
This isn't okay
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: hannu on December 26, 2017, 09:12:06 PM
5 at the back is bull shit id hopedwe had stopped this shit whe we got rid of that clown Koeman, can feel an embarrasing defeat here with this formation and there are signs a goal is coming
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Bluedylan on December 26, 2017, 09:13:22 PM
Hoooofff
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Goaljira on December 26, 2017, 09:13:31 PM
This formation doing us no favours at all.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blargins on December 26, 2017, 09:13:42 PM
So is that idiot on Radio Merseyside. He said the game was poor after 2 minutes.

He has the gift of foresight.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Tinga on December 26, 2017, 09:13:57 PM
Bolasie must be made up playing again.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blargins on December 26, 2017, 09:14:12 PM
This is too soon for Bolasie I think. He needs to be introduced as a sub.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 26, 2017, 09:15:21 PM
This formation doing us no favours at all.

It can never work unless you have players on both flanks who are as comfortable going forward as they are defending, otherwise it's horribly unbalanced.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: cantoffee on December 26, 2017, 09:15:25 PM
We've missed a player like Bolasie who can go by people.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: hannu on December 26, 2017, 09:15:56 PM
typical gareth barry challenge that
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Ross on December 26, 2017, 09:16:41 PM
Someoneís got to get something on that freekick from Sigurdsson 
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Cuttyblue on December 26, 2017, 09:17:05 PM
Need to show we can mix up our approach here.  Long ball been working well since Sam arrived; here it looks like we have room to play.

So get it down on the deck and let's get some possession here. 

That was a chance for DCL there...
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Zoolander on December 26, 2017, 09:18:14 PM
Not playing well at all
Donít know about not training Christmas Day, doesnít look like we have in weeks
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Bluedylan on December 26, 2017, 09:18:23 PM
Lovely ping from Keane there.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: cantoffee on December 26, 2017, 09:18:28 PM
We look awful here
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blueToffee on December 26, 2017, 09:18:53 PM
Itís been said but these kits are pretty confusing.

Pretty big chance they had there.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: hannu on December 26, 2017, 09:18:57 PM
how are we not 2 down
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Audrey Horne on December 26, 2017, 09:18:59 PM
this is so so bad
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 26, 2017, 09:19:06 PM
Surely that's a foul by Barry just shoves Morgan as he goes to head it
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Everton Mint on December 26, 2017, 09:20:06 PM
Cant judge us til at least half an hour gone. We take so long to get going.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: cantoffee on December 26, 2017, 09:20:08 PM
Keane playing some nice cross field balls here. Need to keep that up to open them up a bit.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 26, 2017, 09:20:45 PM
Bolasie looks decent already.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: cantoffee on December 26, 2017, 09:20:54 PM
Surely that's a foul by Barry just shoves Morgan as he goes to head it
Nah, using his body well. Classic Gaz Baz.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 26, 2017, 09:21:01 PM
Keane doesn't half fall asleep in the box a lot doesn't he. Should be 2 down here from his slack defending.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Bluedylan on December 26, 2017, 09:22:03 PM
Gylfi's delivering some gems here. Entitled to expect someone to get their melon on the end of one of these.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Confucius on December 26, 2017, 09:22:13 PM
Keane doesn't half fall asleep in the box a lot doesn't he. Should be 2 down here from his slack defending.

Not sure, been two great balls in
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Everton Mint on December 26, 2017, 09:24:32 PM
We struggle for any control or threat without Rooney. Set-piece probably the best we can hope for...
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Bluedylan on December 26, 2017, 09:25:45 PM
Kenny's in fucking oceans for that entire move.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Everton Mint on December 26, 2017, 09:26:30 PM
Ha ambitious from Yannick !
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: hannu on December 26, 2017, 09:26:53 PM
personally think it should be an instant sacking for any manager playing 3 centre backs, its a dog shit tactic, it should be more defensive but its counter productive as none of the defenders seem to know who to mark
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Heisenberg on December 26, 2017, 09:28:07 PM
No control when on the ball at all. One of the centre backs needs ragging off. Can't be playing like this against the worst team in he league
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 26, 2017, 09:28:46 PM
This is so fuckin boring to watch.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 26, 2017, 09:30:53 PM
Davies has been poor so far.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 26, 2017, 09:32:03 PM
Davies has been poor so far.

Which has been said in far too many games this season already. Definitely hit a plateau.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Bluedylan on December 26, 2017, 09:33:09 PM
Get hold of the frigging ball.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Confucius on December 26, 2017, 09:33:09 PM
personally think it should be an instant sacking for any manager playing 3 centre backs, its a dog shit tactic, it should be more defensive but its counter productive as none of the defenders seem to know who to mark

Chelsea won the league because of it last year
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 26, 2017, 09:33:22 PM
Which has been said in far too many games this season already. Definitely hit a plateau.

Has he just attempted a Bergkamp flick by the sideline
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: cantoffee on December 26, 2017, 09:33:27 PM
They outnumber us too much in midfield it seems. Can't get our foot on the ball here.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Everton Mint on December 26, 2017, 09:33:47 PM
Not happy...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DR-5Hp8WAAEwnaL.jpg)
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Confucius on December 26, 2017, 09:33:54 PM
Grimness, grimness everywhere
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Heisenberg on December 26, 2017, 09:35:02 PM
One of the most pathetic halves Iv ever seen. Change needed at the half
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: hannu on December 26, 2017, 09:35:22 PM
so with the chelsea game its been atleast 120mins without a shot on goal
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Cuttyblue on December 26, 2017, 09:36:03 PM
Stream's out and in for me.  But I can tell we've been poor and lucky to be level.

So fortunate that WBA are truly crap!
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 26, 2017, 09:36:21 PM
Chelsea won the league because of it last year
I would suggest they won the league because they had very good football players.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: TheRam on December 26, 2017, 09:36:27 PM
Shite this
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: therealdunc on December 26, 2017, 09:36:35 PM
Another awful performance from Tom Davies, we are really short of quality in the central areas.
No wonder big sam bypasses the midfield and plays it long to DCL.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 26, 2017, 09:36:46 PM
Roll on half time and a couple of changes. Davies and DCL off for me. Sandro and Niasse on
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Fynci on December 26, 2017, 09:37:03 PM
My dad is in Amsterdam visiting me and I am putting him through this. Iíve ruined Xmas.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: cantoffee on December 26, 2017, 09:37:07 PM
Bolasie is sucking air pretty hard here. Can't think he'll come out for the second half.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Ball8y on December 26, 2017, 09:37:40 PM
Phillips went over Martina's leg there like he'd taken both barrells of a sawn-off shotgun in the chest
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Bluedylan on December 26, 2017, 09:38:29 PM
Burnley 2-0 up at Old Trafford
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: hannu on December 26, 2017, 09:38:29 PM
its like Koeman has come back
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: therealdunc on December 26, 2017, 09:39:17 PM
Bolasie is sucking air pretty hard here. Can't think he'll come out for the second half.

I noticed that
Understandable

Canít see him playing past 60 minutes

But the Everton central midfield is dreadful, they canít pass it between themselves.
Davies and Schneiderlin stinking the place out
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: howard1334 on December 26, 2017, 09:39:19 PM
We need more people in attack. Martina, in particular, does not provide enough of an attacking threat for us to play five at the back.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 26, 2017, 09:39:29 PM
It's no use having three centre halves if they have no-one in midfield to pass to. It's been said before but whoever put this squad together needs shooting, Walshy-lad.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: everton1952 on December 26, 2017, 09:39:52 PM
Probably better than on Radio Merseyside though. They reckon we should be 3 down.  Surprise, surprise WBA have sent in lots of crosses, hence the 3 centre backs.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 26, 2017, 09:40:30 PM
Burnley 2-0 up at Old Trafford

Imagine actually having a go at these so-called bigger clubs. The mind boggles at the cheek of it.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Ross on December 26, 2017, 09:40:46 PM
Fucking hell Burnley are winning 2 nil at Utd.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 26, 2017, 09:40:52 PM
Thought they weren't allowed to drink alcohol over the holidays?

Should never have got rid of Barry you know.........
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: therealdunc on December 26, 2017, 09:41:15 PM
We need more people in attack. Martina, in particular, does not provide enough of an attacking threat for us to play five at the back.

And some people on here where arguing we donít need a left back !

Not Martinaís fault, but the team is so unbalanced itís ridiculous

We have a right back with no left foot playing left back and a No.10 with no pace playing in front of him
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Mac934 on December 26, 2017, 09:41:23 PM
Two terrible teams serving up a bucket load of crap. We are miles away from challenging the top teams. Can't even string passes together against a really bad West Brom side.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Bluedylan on December 26, 2017, 09:41:33 PM
Another awful performance from Tom Davies, we are really short of quality in the central areas.
No wonder big sam bypasses the midfield and plays it long to DCL.

Trotting the excuses out early doors
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 26, 2017, 09:42:29 PM
I can see why he would want Nzonzi in this side.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Simon Paul on December 26, 2017, 09:42:35 PM
Fucking hell Burnley are winning 2 nil at Utd.

Yeah but people snorted in derision at me wanting Dyche at Everton long term
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: hannu on December 26, 2017, 09:42:41 PM
Imagine actually having a go at these so-called bigger clubs. The mind boggles at the cheek of it.

we arent even having a go at west brom
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: therealdunc on December 26, 2017, 09:42:47 PM
Imagine actually having a go at these so-called bigger clubs. The mind boggles at the cheek of it.

Yeah cause if we would have taken Bournemouthís open approach vs Liverpool at Anfield we would deffo have won  ::)
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Shogun on December 26, 2017, 09:43:36 PM
Awful this
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 26, 2017, 09:43:41 PM
Hope to god weve got a deal for a striker lined up for the 1st
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Ross on December 26, 2017, 09:43:45 PM
Burnley 2-0 up at Old Trafford

I was of the opinion weíd catch them but Iím beginning to think we wonít now.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Hesmenos on December 26, 2017, 09:44:03 PM
There's nothing wrong with playing 3 at the back if you have the players for it. Think Atalanta against us.
We unfortunately do not.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: chang on December 26, 2017, 09:44:10 PM
Stream's out and in for me.  But I can tell we've been poor and lucky to be level.

So fortunate that WBA are truly crap!

Is working with the odd refresh http://cricbox.co/channels/ch3.php
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Cuttyblue on December 26, 2017, 09:44:17 PM
I noticed that
Understandable

Canít see him playing past 60 minutes

But the Everton central midfield is dreadful, they canít pass it between themselves.
Davies and Schneiderlin stinking the place out

I can't wait to see the back of Schneiderlin.  He must be world class in training.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: therealdunc on December 26, 2017, 09:45:02 PM
Yeah but people snorted in derision at me wanting Dyche at Everton long term
Dyche is a crap version of Moyes, which is pretty bad

Letís not look at one half time result in isolation.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Paddockoldie on December 26, 2017, 09:45:55 PM
Martina has one role for his left leg and that's standing on. Why we keep giving it him when trying to attack and needing a cross when he can't is puzzling. Bolasie is dead on his feet. Get lÚokman on second half
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 26, 2017, 09:46:25 PM
Dyche is a crap version of Moyes, which is pretty bad

Letís not look at one half time result in isolation.

They are 6th or 7th arent they? Thats half a season not half a match
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Bluedylan on December 26, 2017, 09:46:42 PM
Outplayed and outpassed by a team in 19th who haven't won for 17 games. 0 shots on target.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: hannu on December 26, 2017, 09:47:00 PM
Dyche is a crap version of Moyes, which is pretty bad

Letís not look at one half time result in isolation.

he has plenty of results against much bigger teams
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: stirlingblue on December 26, 2017, 09:47:01 PM
If we're going to stick with five at the back then we need to look at somebody like Lennon out of position at left back
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Ross on December 26, 2017, 09:47:02 PM
How does someone who hates Moyes so vehemently become such a huge Allardyce fan?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: TheRam on December 26, 2017, 09:47:26 PM
This is the type of game where allardyce will lose the fans.

We need to be attacking these
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Goaljira on December 26, 2017, 09:47:30 PM
I cant tell if i fell asleep, or my brain just switched off for 10 minutes.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: stirlingblue on December 26, 2017, 09:47:44 PM
How does someone who hates Moyes so vehemently become such a huge Allardyce fan?

Moyes' football is too fancy and adventurous
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 26, 2017, 09:47:49 PM
Outplayed and outpassed by a team in 19th who haven't won for 17 games. 0 shots on target.

Amen.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 26, 2017, 09:48:32 PM
Yeah cause if we would have taken Bournemouthís open approach vs Liverpool at Anfield we would deffo have won  ::)

Dyche doesn't take the open approach. There is a third way.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Simon Paul on December 26, 2017, 09:48:49 PM
As long as we can win 0-0 again then it'll be sound
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Heisenberg on December 26, 2017, 09:49:11 PM
Out of all the teams in the league, who the fuck are we playing with no No. 10 presence
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on December 26, 2017, 09:49:16 PM
One of them games where you donít mind having a shit stream.

Maximum grimness.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Ross on December 26, 2017, 09:49:42 PM
Moyes' football is too fancy and adventurous

Odd isnít it.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Everton Mint on December 26, 2017, 09:49:53 PM
Big Sam has got us out of trouble - thats what he was hired for. Dont expect him to transform us into a great football team equally fast.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: toffee_scot on December 26, 2017, 09:50:57 PM
What a boring uninspiring game of football this is, when you can even hear 'Big Sam' shouting "pass, pass" then you know your team's football is dire.

Let's get rid of this 3 CB bollocks, take off one of the defenders for maybe Niasse as he can do something a bit unpredictable which this game is crying out for plus take off Bolasie and put on Lennon/Lookman. Davies will come off at some point so Sandro could come on. With these changes, I expect a shot on target or two.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Simon Paul on December 26, 2017, 09:51:09 PM
Big Sam has got us out of trouble - thats what he was hired for. Dont expect him to transform us into a great football team equally fast.

Don't expect people to accept more than 18 months of this shite either then
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Shogun on December 26, 2017, 09:51:31 PM
Put Lookman or Lennon on for Keane in the second half and go back to four at the back.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: pjk on December 26, 2017, 09:51:37 PM
This West Brom side is spot on relegation fodder. We really should beat these pretty easily. Time to show us this legendary tactical nous Big Sam. Dreadful stuff being served up here. ???
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: hannu on December 26, 2017, 09:52:07 PM
Big Sam has got us out of trouble - thats what he was hired for. Dont expect him to transform us into a great football team equally fast.

0ver 135 mins without a shoy on target
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Danny on December 26, 2017, 09:52:55 PM
Straight away the second we've had a poor half everyone is back Allardyce out, i'm sure he'll have measured them up now and have changes at half time, we just need to keep not conceding goals for as long as possible until we can bring in reinforcements, no doubt we'll nick this as well.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: therealdunc on December 26, 2017, 09:53:00 PM
A team who has been awful all season with 2 previous awful managers in Koeman and Unsworth is still awful but at least arenít getting spanked every week and have a transfer window coming up to put it right

Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Everton Mint on December 26, 2017, 09:53:01 PM
Don't expect people to accept more than 18 months of this shite either then

18 months, give him at least a transfer window...
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Bluedylan on December 26, 2017, 09:53:14 PM
Big Sam has got us out of trouble - thats what he was hired for. Dont expect him to transform us into a great football team equally fast.

No one's expecting to be dazzled. We haven't had a shot at goal for a game and a half! We're playing a team who haven't won since the summer!
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: BlueMaquis on December 26, 2017, 09:53:23 PM
What a boring uninspiring game of football this is, when you can even hear 'Big Sam' shouting "pass, pass" then you know your team's football is dire.

Let's get rid of this 3 CB bollocks, take off one of the defenders for maybe Niasse as he can do something a bit unpredictable which this game is crying out for plus take off Bolasie and put on Lennon/Lookman. Davies will come off at some point so Sandro could come on. With these changes, I expect a shot on target or two.

But that's exactly the problem, the players won't pass. It's not the formation. They seem afraid to pass the ball forward. There's a complete lack of confidence there. Bolasie is the lone exception.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: everton1952 on December 26, 2017, 09:53:41 PM
Two terrible teams serving up a bucket load of crap. We are miles away from challenging the top teams. Can't even string passes together against a really bad West Brom side.
Since when are we supposed to be challenging the top teams?? We have moved away from an awful downward spiral into the bottom 3 into relative safety. We have too many 2nd rate players to be seriously challenging the top teams.  Give the new manager time to change the squad and bin a few players including several currently regularly chosen for the first team. WBA away or any away game is difficult game for a team in our transitional state. Don't try to run before you can walk. February hopefully will see a couple of new names, midfield and strikers.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: therealdunc on December 26, 2017, 09:54:21 PM
It seems the Big Sam haters are gonna hate

Some real nasty stuff on here
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 26, 2017, 09:55:13 PM
I'm going to give Sam the benefit of the doubt up to now by acknowledging that he hasn't had a great deal of time to work with these players so he can't be expected to produce a total football turnaround and to be fair he's delivered on results.

However when the amount of time since you had a shot on target is measured in hours rather than minutes then I think it's fair to expect a little more.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Everton Mint on December 26, 2017, 09:55:33 PM
We are still a poor side, low on confidence with some good players still injured and no top striker... but at least we're an organised one.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 26, 2017, 09:56:11 PM
Don't expect people to accept more than 18 months of this shite either then

Can he at least have a transfer window?? Youre absolutely itching for a poor result so you can slaughter him.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Bluedylan on December 26, 2017, 09:56:42 PM
It seems the Big Sam haters are gonna hate

Some real nasty stuff on here

No, nothing nasty or personal. Just criticising the football we're playing.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Shogun on December 26, 2017, 09:56:53 PM
Some real nasty stuff on here

Like what?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: hannu on December 26, 2017, 09:56:54 PM
It seems the Big Sam haters are gonna hate

Some real nasty stuff on here

i dont hate him, he has done fantastic so far, but the tactics in this game are just wrong
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: therealdunc on December 26, 2017, 09:57:05 PM
Since when are we supposed to be challenging the top teams?? We have moved away from an awful downward spiral into the bottom 3 into relative safety. We have too many 2nd rate players to be seriously challenging the top teams.  Give the new manager time to change the squad and bin a few players including several currently regularly chosen for the first team. WBA away or any away game is difficult game for a team in our transitional state. Don't try to run before you can walk. February hopefully will see a couple of new names, midfield and strikers.

Exactly

And half the people on this forum rate Lennon  lolol
Bolasie  lolol
Schneiderlin  lolol
Davies  lolol
Besic  lolol
Niasse  lolol

And they say give Sandro and Klassen time  lolol

The squad is full of crap , people need to call a spade a spade and take of the blue tinted specs and stop over rating players because they play for Everton
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: howard1334 on December 26, 2017, 09:57:41 PM
Can he at least have a transfer window?? Youre absolutely itching for a poor result so you can slaughter him.

This is some pretty dire shit he is serving up here. Happy he has helped steady the ship, but this is way too negative for West Brom.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Confucius on December 26, 2017, 09:57:45 PM
I would suggest they won the league because they had very good football players.

They only started playing well with 5 at the back. The beginning of the season they weren't winning.

Not to say we should be playing it. Surely with 5 at the back we should have a rb and lb out wide to stop the cross coming in and then if it does have the CB to deal with it.

Our full backs are so narrow and the three cb have no idea where they should be.

Davies has been bad. Not good enough. Schneider Lin has been pretty good and Keane has played so great balls from he back. Bolasie looks lovely.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Simon Paul on December 26, 2017, 09:59:06 PM
Can he at least have a transfer window?? Youre absolutely itching for a poor result so you can slaughter him.

Sorry is there not a transfer window in the next 18 months?

And don't judge me by your standards. I'll slaughter him even when we beat Chelsea 0-0
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blob on December 26, 2017, 09:59:16 PM
shite stream, shite performance. time for a dog walk...
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blargins on December 26, 2017, 09:59:46 PM
It's taken Dyche 7 years to get Burnley up there. And next season they'll probably be back near the bottom half again where they have been most of the time.

I never thought he was the answer for us either, but good on him for having a go.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: BlueMaquis on December 26, 2017, 09:59:56 PM
This is some pretty dire shit he is serving up here. Happy he has helped steady the shit, but this is way too negative for West Brom.

What if how we are playing isn't what he wants to see from the players?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Ravardo on December 26, 2017, 10:00:20 PM
Watching schneiderlin is fucking mental,, when we have the ball he's always standing 2 foot from someone as if he's marking them and when they have the ball he's in so much space its unbelievable useless twat
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 26, 2017, 10:00:30 PM
This is some pretty dire shit he is serving up here. Happy he has helped steady the shit, but this is way too negative for West Brom.

Honestly.... In attacking positions we are shit. We dont have a striker or a playmaker and our only good offensive winger is playing his first 45 in over a year. We have shite players and big holes in attacking positions

Saying that weve been shit defensively to today. Its been crap but people are itching for a poor result so they can get at Allardyce.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 26, 2017, 10:00:37 PM
No, nothing nasty or personal. Just criticising the football we're playing.


Using the word 'football' as a non descriptive term.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: everton1952 on December 26, 2017, 10:00:54 PM
Don't expect people to accept more than 18 months of this shite either then
Bit early into 18 months to be so heavily critical isn't it? According to my calendar, Allardyce has only recently arrived, and picked up Koeman's disaster. He can't turn crap workaday players into entertaining ones, only a bit more effective ones.  Just get this season out of  the way.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Simon Paul on December 26, 2017, 10:01:22 PM
What if how we are playing isn't what he wants to see from the players?

Maybe if we look at how his previous teams have played we could get a clue?

If only he'd managed a premier league side before....
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 26, 2017, 10:01:56 PM
Watching schneiderlin is fucking mental,, when we have the ball he's always standing 2 foot from someone as if he's marking them and when they have the ball he's in so much space its unbelievable useless twat

An expensive James McCarthy.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 26, 2017, 10:01:59 PM
shite stream, shite performance. time for a dog walk...

Hope the dog has a good shite.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Rodenplav64 on December 26, 2017, 10:03:35 PM
We are going to fucking batter these 2nd half . The Samster has lulled that fuckwit Pardew into a sense of false security and then , boom , we will fucking trounce them mark my words . I bet that's got therealdunc shuffling in his undies .
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: hannu on December 26, 2017, 10:05:33 PM
thank fuck rondon is shite
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: howard1334 on December 26, 2017, 10:05:44 PM
What if how we are playing isn't what he wants to see from the players?

Of course it is not. But he is still responsible for team selection and tactics, and in my view, he has messed those both up today.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Simon Paul on December 26, 2017, 10:06:03 PM
thank fuck rondon is shite

He's coming to us in January, not going to make us hate him first is he?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Dr. Sponge on December 26, 2017, 10:06:14 PM
Don't care how we're playing (yet) as long as we get the 3 points away from home.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Everton Mint on December 26, 2017, 10:06:22 PM
Lovely skill from Bolasie !
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Ball8y on December 26, 2017, 10:06:55 PM
Oh how I miss Bob Latchford
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blob on December 26, 2017, 10:07:16 PM
Hope  the dog has a good shite.

never fails :)
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 26, 2017, 10:07:24 PM
Maybe if we look at how his previous teams have played we could get a clue?

If only he'd managed a premier league side before....

Come on lad, you're going all MLT on us here
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: hannu on December 26, 2017, 10:07:45 PM
He's coming to us in January, not going to make us hate him first is he?

oh god no lets hope this injury is bad and it falls through
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: howard1334 on December 26, 2017, 10:08:05 PM
Honestly.... In attacking positions we are shit. We dont have a striker or a playmaker and our only good offensive winger is playing his first 45 in over a year. We have shite players and big holes in attacking positions

Saying that weve been shit defensively to today. Its been crap but people are itching for a poor result so they can get at Allardyce.

I have no problem with Alardyce generally. I want us to win. But I disagree with the team selection. I disagree with the tactics. This is not fun to watch. And we are struggling against one of the worst teams in the league. It is utterly reasonable for me to be unhappy with this performance so far.

I also, besides our lacking a striker, don't think our attack options are that bad -- so we are starting our assessments from different places.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Heisenberg on December 26, 2017, 10:08:34 PM
Everton football club are playing 5 at the back against the 1 man attack of Hal Robson Kanu
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Everton Mint on December 26, 2017, 10:10:37 PM
Is no-one at all aware of the effect of Rooney's absence ?

I think our best player and goal-scorer being missing is quite important.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Goaljira on December 26, 2017, 10:10:45 PM
Nailed on last on MOTD
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Bluedylan on December 26, 2017, 10:11:25 PM
Wonder if we'll have another attempt on goal in 2017
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Tinga on December 26, 2017, 10:11:26 PM
shit this.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 26, 2017, 10:11:31 PM
DCL has done absolutely fuck all today. Might as well not be on the pitch. I know its a tough job but hes been terrible
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 26, 2017, 10:12:07 PM
Is no-one at all aware of the effect of Rooney's absence ?

I think our best player and goal-scorer being missing is quite important.

Doesn't necessitate playing a defender in place of him.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Ross on December 26, 2017, 10:12:52 PM
Everton football club are playing 5 at the back against the 1 man attack of Hal Robson Kanu

To be fair Hal Robson Kanu doesnít sound like a one man attack!
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blargins on December 26, 2017, 10:12:57 PM
Nailed on last on MOTD

I'd be surprised if they even bothered to show the game.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 26, 2017, 10:13:25 PM
All's I want for Christmas is a shot on net.

Reminds me of the Christmas threads this Allardyce debate.

Swap me bland socks for a bland goal Sam lad.....

Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Mac934 on December 26, 2017, 10:13:52 PM
Since when are we supposed to be challenging the top teams?? We have moved away from an awful downward spiral into the bottom 3 into relative safety. We have too many 2nd rate players to be seriously challenging the top teams.  Give the new manager time to change the squad and bin a few players including several currently regularly chosen for the first team. WBA away or any away game is difficult game for a team in our transitional state. Don't try to run before you can walk. February hopefully will see a couple of new names, midfield and strikers.
wasnt that the plan? To challenge the top teams. Yes I understand the recent results have stabilised us. But Jees this is just shite football. It's West Brom who can't put a win on the table for months and we are second rate to them! FFS.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Everton Mint on December 26, 2017, 10:13:53 PM
Doesn't necessitate playing a defender in place of him.

No but playing a tired young DCL...
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 26, 2017, 10:14:43 PM
Niasse is just the kind of player for this type of game to be honest. He'll inadvertently, somehow make something happen and turn a clearance into an attack.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: howard1334 on December 26, 2017, 10:15:36 PM
Tom Davies has not really progressed from last year. Disappointing.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 26, 2017, 10:15:42 PM
never fails :)

Trust you Baggied it....bum-bum!
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Everton Mint on December 26, 2017, 10:16:46 PM
Decent comeback by Bolasie.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Smingers on December 26, 2017, 10:17:10 PM
Come on Niasse! Give us a goal!
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Bluedylan on December 26, 2017, 10:17:15 PM
Big Jonjoe's at least doing some good stuff.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 26, 2017, 10:17:20 PM
Tom Davies has not really progressed from last year. Disappointing.

Definitely isn't worthy of a place in the side. Needs a spell out badly.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 26, 2017, 10:18:30 PM
ďRegarding West Brom v Everton, what a shoddy, shambolic encounter between two wretched teams. With so little quality on display itís tough to single out the worst performance but my head has been turned by Jake Livermore who has been mind-numbingly terrible. If he starts the second half I may begin weeping.Ē

Itís been turgid stuff.' Guardian

So its not just us then....
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Ball8y on December 26, 2017, 10:20:34 PM
One thing I am certain of: By the time this gets shown on MOTD, I will be fast asleep
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: everton1952 on December 26, 2017, 10:20:44 PM
Tom Davies has not really progressed from last year. Disappointing.
Can't pass, shoot or tackle. Vlasic and Besic must be doing badly in training to be behind Davies. 
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: hannu on December 26, 2017, 10:21:17 PM
and to think i could be doing so many more enjoyable things than watching this like sleeping, having a shit or jamming a rusty coat hanger down my japs eye
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: therealdunc on December 26, 2017, 10:21:24 PM
Tom Davies has not really progressed from last year. Disappointing.

Been awful all season, needs to be dropped but we have no one else
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: cantoffee on December 26, 2017, 10:22:09 PM
How is that not a card?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 26, 2017, 10:22:23 PM
Id like to see Sandro now or maybe Lookman
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: everton1952 on December 26, 2017, 10:22:39 PM
ďRegarding West Brom v Everton, what a shoddy, shambolic encounter between two wretched teams. With so little quality on display itís tough to single out the worst performance but my head has been turned by Jake Livermore who has been mind-numbingly terrible. If he starts the second half I may begin weeping.Ē

Itís been turgid stuff.' Guardian
Doesn't the Guardian always print shite on every subject?  Although they might be right on this one.
So its not just us then....
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: hannu on December 26, 2017, 10:23:26 PM
kenny winning every ball there
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Bluedylan on December 26, 2017, 10:23:33 PM
Have we had a touch in their box?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 26, 2017, 10:23:57 PM
Streams gone. Anyone?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: keverton1971 on December 26, 2017, 10:24:42 PM
http://cricbox.co/channels/ch3.php
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: hannu on December 26, 2017, 10:24:48 PM
ive been for a shit, have we had a shot on target yet?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Everton Mint on December 26, 2017, 10:25:04 PM
Davies is just garbage. Time for a spell back in the 23's.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 26, 2017, 10:25:40 PM


Could have said shite instead of turgid but guess they'll leave that to the Daily Star or Mail.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Tinga on December 26, 2017, 10:25:47 PM
He should be off there.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: hannu on December 26, 2017, 10:26:11 PM
loves conecting with players faces that dawson
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Everton Mint on December 26, 2017, 10:28:35 PM
Was that a shot ?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: hannu on December 26, 2017, 10:28:57 PM
Was that a shot ?

am not sure
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Bluedylan on December 26, 2017, 10:29:13 PM
Was that a shot ?

Is this football?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: cantoffee on December 26, 2017, 10:29:15 PM
This is really shite.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 26, 2017, 10:29:18 PM
I know I'm running the risk of sounding like a broken record but what the fuck does Schneiderlin offer?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Heisenberg on December 26, 2017, 10:29:29 PM
I don't understand our game plan
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Cuttyblue on December 26, 2017, 10:30:09 PM
Was that a shot ?

As close as we've come to one!  Great distribution by Pickford.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 26, 2017, 10:30:36 PM
I don't understand our game plan

I wasn't aware their was one.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Confucius on December 26, 2017, 10:30:47 PM
Can we get it out of our half. So many corners.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: toffee_scot on December 26, 2017, 10:30:58 PM
We love conceding corners don't we?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 26, 2017, 10:32:13 PM
This is really bad.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: American Evertonian on December 26, 2017, 10:32:31 PM
I'd be happy if we put on another forward as this gameplan relies on warm bodies up front
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Confucius on December 26, 2017, 10:32:34 PM
Lovely header by Williams to prevent the corner. Love little things like that
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: hannu on December 26, 2017, 10:33:03 PM
need a defender off and a mid or striker on
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Simon Paul on December 26, 2017, 10:33:22 PM
Be fuming if you supported West Brom here

We're going to nick t any minute now
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: howard1334 on December 26, 2017, 10:33:34 PM
Ughhhhhhhhhhh................
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: hannu on December 26, 2017, 10:34:01 PM
Be fuming if you supported West Brom here

We're going to nick t any minute now

got to get out our half for that
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: American Evertonian on December 26, 2017, 10:34:13 PM
Are we in 19th or are they? Asking for a friend...
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: toffee_scot on December 26, 2017, 10:34:30 PM
We are making West Brom look like Chelsea.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: cantoffee on December 26, 2017, 10:34:33 PM
Lol Barry with a yellow. Good stuff.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: hannu on December 26, 2017, 10:34:38 PM
out our half this is promosing
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Simon Paul on December 26, 2017, 10:34:39 PM
Barry picking up his customary yellow
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Everton Mint on December 26, 2017, 10:34:42 PM
Pickford is doing great, clearing with good punches.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Confucius on December 26, 2017, 10:34:53 PM
Barry with the tactical yellow. Got to love him
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: American Evertonian on December 26, 2017, 10:35:06 PM
Is Big Sam watching the same match as us?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: everton1952 on December 26, 2017, 10:35:12 PM
Good support from WBA fans considering how long they have suffered. I knew it would be a difficult Boxing Day away game with a fuelled up home crowd yelling them on.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Redartin on December 26, 2017, 10:35:15 PM
Man City form - WDWW WWWW WWWW WWWW WWWW

Everton form - YAWN YAWN YAWN YAWN YAWN
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Tinga on December 26, 2017, 10:35:30 PM
Our style of football is dreadful. Fucking hell.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: cantoffee on December 26, 2017, 10:35:51 PM
Need to change this, we are looking for a point here and that's just not good enough.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Zoolander on December 26, 2017, 10:36:20 PM
Marina is so fucking terrible itís almost funny
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 26, 2017, 10:36:31 PM
Man City form - WDWW WWWW WWWW WWWW WWWW

Everton form - YAWN YAWN YAWN YAWN YAWN

Aye, the one D was us!
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: hannu on December 26, 2017, 10:36:43 PM
if big sam says its a good result he can fuck off
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: American Evertonian on December 26, 2017, 10:36:44 PM
What's the harm in putting Sandro or Lookman on?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: cantoffee on December 26, 2017, 10:36:56 PM
We really need a left back.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: howard1334 on December 26, 2017, 10:37:10 PM
Martina is so awful in attack.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Paddockoldie on December 26, 2017, 10:37:19 PM
Davies is shocking today and has been off for a while now. Needs dropping for a while. Time to get lÚokman on so we can have a shot on goal
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Cuttyblue on December 26, 2017, 10:37:24 PM
I's not as bad as our Southampton performance here, but we are almost back to square one.

I'd be pleased with a point; we've been almost as bad as we've been earlier this season.   
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 26, 2017, 10:37:29 PM
Sam's loving a point here isn't he. Not arsed about nicking a win, keeps his unbeaten run going.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: keverton1971 on December 26, 2017, 10:37:36 PM
i can't remember us actually putting 2 passes together???
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Rodenplav64 on December 26, 2017, 10:37:52 PM
Some proper whine arse fuckers on here .
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Fynci on December 26, 2017, 10:38:01 PM
What's the harm in putting Sandro or Lookman on?

Weíd get fined and docked points I bet. Weíve made two subs already.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Everton Mint on December 26, 2017, 10:38:18 PM
Man City form - WDWW WWWW WWWW WWWW WWWW

Everton form - YAWN YAWN YAWN YAWN YAWN

Real one, we are 3rd: https://www.twtd.co.uk/league-tables/competition:premier-league/form/matches:6/type:home-and-away
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Simon Paul on December 26, 2017, 10:38:20 PM
And Williams showing that any cards Barry can get, he can get as well
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Bluedylan on December 26, 2017, 10:38:26 PM
Carthorse Williams
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Simon Paul on December 26, 2017, 10:39:18 PM
Hahaha!  Matt Phillips!

Good job it's him!
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 26, 2017, 10:39:22 PM
Some proper whine arse fuckers on here .

I've actually cracked open a bottle of red watching this second half.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Mac934 on December 26, 2017, 10:39:36 PM
Some proper whine arse fuckers on here .
are you watching the same game? We are fucking dire!!!
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Redartin on December 26, 2017, 10:39:38 PM
if big sam says its a good result he can fuck off

Maybe he'll say it was phenominal defending.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: hannu on December 26, 2017, 10:40:08 PM
Maybe he'll say it was phenominal defending.

oh god
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: cantoffee on December 26, 2017, 10:40:22 PM
Lol wow Gibbs
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Simon Paul on December 26, 2017, 10:40:36 PM
Kieron Gibbs reminding himself of where it all went wrong at arsenal
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Rodenplav64 on December 26, 2017, 10:40:41 PM
I've actually cracked open a bottle of red watching this second half.

I opened a Harveys Christmas ale .
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 26, 2017, 10:40:48 PM
Carthorse Williams

Wasn't he on Bonanza?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 26, 2017, 10:41:22 PM
Time to switch on Soccer Saturday as well to see what happens before my stream.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Tinga on December 26, 2017, 10:41:47 PM
Some proper whine arse fuckers on here .

Shut up, we're shite.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Cuttyblue on December 26, 2017, 10:41:48 PM
West Brom are sooooo poor. You really feel for their supporters.  shakeyheadman
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Smingers on December 26, 2017, 10:42:13 PM
Can't get to see this? I'm 'watching'  on sky sports news.  What are we like?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 26, 2017, 10:42:38 PM
West Brom are sooooo poor. You really feel for their supporters.  shakeyheadman
I feel for our own before any other team
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Rodenplav64 on December 26, 2017, 10:42:40 PM
are you watching the same game? We are fucking dire!!!

Mate why the fuck would I watch the match . Have you read the entertainment in the previous 20 odd pages .
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: hannu on December 26, 2017, 10:42:41 PM
hanging on here
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Simon Paul on December 26, 2017, 10:42:45 PM
Can't get to see this? I'm 'watching on sky sports news' What are we like?

10 bags of shite and Jordan Pickford
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: howard1334 on December 26, 2017, 10:42:48 PM
At least Kenny's back-post defending remains excellent.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Mac934 on December 26, 2017, 10:43:18 PM
West Brom are sooooo poor. You really feel for their supporters.  shakeyheadman
so are we and I feel for our supporters
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: cantoffee on December 26, 2017, 10:43:29 PM
Going for it here with Beni on for Davies
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Cuttyblue on December 26, 2017, 10:43:36 PM
JJK alert.  Defensive side of his game been on the up.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Tinga on December 26, 2017, 10:43:46 PM
This team needs a proper clear out.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: hannu on December 26, 2017, 10:44:03 PM
10 bags of shite and Jordan Pickford

to be fair kenny has been decent
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Heisenberg on December 26, 2017, 10:44:15 PM
Like for like sub again. Sam Allardyce forgetting who he's managing I think. No bottle at all
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: gizzblue on December 26, 2017, 10:44:23 PM
We are shit today against shitter. ..but are we really any better?.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: everton1952 on December 26, 2017, 10:44:29 PM
Man City form - WDWW WWWW WWWW WWWW WWWW

Everton form - YAWN YAWN YAWN YAWN YAWN
Why can't we be as good as them? Allardyce out, Moshiri out out out.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Simon Paul on December 26, 2017, 10:44:35 PM
to be fair kenny has been decent

Yeah I was unkind

And we've just had a shot on target too!!
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Ross on December 26, 2017, 10:44:46 PM
We had shot.

Put it in your diaries
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: American Evertonian on December 26, 2017, 10:44:48 PM
Just a negative tactics from the start. We deserve a point at most and that's all these tactics were going to get us
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: cantoffee on December 26, 2017, 10:45:24 PM
If we were playing on the counter and letting them have the ball to hit them on the break I could live with that but we aren't even doing that.

Game plan is hoof it and chase them down, hopefully we get the ball near their third.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: American Evertonian on December 26, 2017, 10:45:36 PM
Long ball after long ball after long ball
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: BlueMaquis on December 26, 2017, 10:47:13 PM
It's bizarre. We are playing as if we somehow aren't very good.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 26, 2017, 10:48:20 PM
Long ball after long ball after long ball

Pardew v Allardyce la.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: American Evertonian on December 26, 2017, 10:48:39 PM
Just aimlessly hoofing it. I'll never talk shit about another teams' tactics.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Rodenplav64 on December 26, 2017, 10:48:50 PM
Given our away record under Koeman this is a fantastic point . No doubt it will be about 5 mins before the Dyche , Moyes and Silva threads become active again .
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Dr. Sponge on December 26, 2017, 10:48:53 PM
Disappointing to draw here. But we seriously need a striker.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: everton1952 on December 26, 2017, 10:49:10 PM
Good point this. We nearly won it near the end. No luck at all. We are hard to beat, like we were under Koeman oh hang on.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Everton Mint on December 26, 2017, 10:49:48 PM
Shocking. Cant even dribble the ball clear.

Defence always under the cosh did well, ditto Pickford.

Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Heisenberg on December 26, 2017, 10:49:59 PM
That's honestly the worst everton performance Iv seen in years. I can stomach the Martinez and koeman shite more than that because at least they would always want to win against a team 19th
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: hannu on December 26, 2017, 10:50:12 PM
shite, am gonna play football manager and try get 2 shots on target
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: American Evertonian on December 26, 2017, 10:50:27 PM
Would love to get those two hours of my life back.

Ah - who am I kidding. I would probably watch the replay if I got that time back.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 26, 2017, 10:50:48 PM
Ace result that. West Brom have been on fire!
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: keverton1971 on December 26, 2017, 10:51:00 PM
utter dog shit!  i can't even be arsed goin out for a pint now
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 26, 2017, 10:51:37 PM
I fail to see how that's a good point for any Everton side
Ever
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: april on December 26, 2017, 10:51:53 PM
A point away, still steadying the ship. Rather this than 4-1 defeats.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: howard1334 on December 26, 2017, 10:51:55 PM
Very disappointed with that match. Was really looking forward to it too.

Why do managers not seem to like Vlasic? He has almost always looked decent when he has played. I don't get it. Is he not trying in training?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Everton Mint on December 26, 2017, 10:52:09 PM
United 2-2 Burnley

Dyche out.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: starblood on December 26, 2017, 10:52:23 PM
That's honestly the worst everton performance Iv seen in years. I can stomach the Martinez and koeman shite more than that because at least they would always want to win against a team 19th
C'mon. That away loss at Southampton a month ago was way worse!
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: pjk on December 26, 2017, 10:52:41 PM
It's OK steadying the ship, but that was like an old tugboat. I can't accept that, personally. Allardyce out! Nah! only kidding. Let's hope after the Bournemouth game things improve with a couple of signings.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Bluedylan on December 26, 2017, 10:53:00 PM
Thankfully my stream kept dying, so I think I've only watched about 50-60 minutes of an atrocious display, rather than the full 90.

Sam'll say stuff about wanting to play good football in the post-match and that'll be more than enough to placate the apologists.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Cuttyblue on December 26, 2017, 10:53:22 PM
LOL comedy out there.  Two terrible teams.

Pickford and Kenny done well, maybe Keane and Bolasie done ok as well.

Others were just terrible. 
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Mac934 on December 26, 2017, 10:53:49 PM
Good point this. We nearly won it near the end. No luck at all. We are hard to beat, like we were under Koeman oh hang on.
good point!!!!!! What the fuck are you smoking mate? That was dire, turgid shite. There was no plan other than not lose to a team who haven't won for seventeen games and are so low on confidence. Fuck off.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Ridge on December 26, 2017, 10:54:18 PM
Embarrassingly poor, we were lucky to get a point and they were shocking.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on December 26, 2017, 10:54:59 PM
Rooney is so important to us. We look garbage without him.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on December 26, 2017, 10:55:02 PM
18 more months...
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: everton1952 on December 26, 2017, 10:55:23 PM
Is Koeman available then?    These clean sheets and the unbeaten run with such crap players are terrible to behold and a clear sign of big Sam's failure. Just imagine Koeman and his brother back on the bench and us back on 19th just to ease your stomach. 
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Heisenberg on December 26, 2017, 10:55:26 PM
C'mon. That away loss at Southampton a month ago was way worse!

That was a mixture of things though, mainly the sorry state of affairs we were in. In isolation, them 90minutes, horrific. The whole idea of football is trying to win games.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Cozzie on December 26, 2017, 10:55:28 PM
Niasse really is atrocious isn't he, LMFAO, ROFL & PMSL!

Think the last two games have shown we really miss Rooney for creativity.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blargins on December 26, 2017, 10:56:18 PM
Very poor, very boring, and very Boxing Day too.

At least we're not losing, and we've caught up with Leicester as well.

Next team to catch is Arsenal. Burnley might be too long to reach now they're 2-0 up at Utd. Oh wait, not 2-0? If only they had a manager who could go for it too.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: TheTone on December 26, 2017, 10:56:28 PM
Made up with that result


Full points in the prediction league


Big Sam IN
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: therealdunc on December 26, 2017, 10:56:59 PM
What do people really expect?

A badly unbalanced squad
With major injuries
A manager with no transfer window to make personnel changes
And barely a month to get his ideas across

And we get a clean sheet and away point

4 weeks so we went to an equally as bad Southampton team and got spanked 4-1 that could have been 10-1

Perspective

Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 26, 2017, 10:57:08 PM
Cenk Tosun wouldíve got a hat-trick today lid
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Bluedylan on December 26, 2017, 10:57:13 PM
Is Koeman available then?    These clean sheets and the unbeaten run with such crap players are terrible to behold and a clear sign of big Sam's failure. Just imagine Koeman and his brother back on the bench and us back on 19th just to ease your stomach. 

We haven't got crap players, we've got an unbalanced squad. I wish people would stop trotting out this utter shite.

West Brom have got crap players!
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Zoolander on December 26, 2017, 10:57:17 PM
We should be winning games like that. But Iíll take a point away from home when considering what we were like only a few weeks ago against Southampton.

Desperately need a striker and a left back, could really use a Barkley too tbh.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Cuttyblue on December 26, 2017, 10:57:21 PM
Niasse really is atrocious isn't he, LMFAO, ROFL & PMSL!

Think the last two games have shown we really miss Rooney for creativity.

When he flicked the ball 25 yards ahead of him out of defence, ran a full sprint, lunged and fell on his face... I could;'t help but laugh!

Feel so bad for him.  :-[
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: loroloco on December 26, 2017, 10:57:29 PM
can understand playing for a nil all draw against the champions but playing for one against west brom is absolutely criminal.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 26, 2017, 10:57:47 PM
Unbeaten run continues, letís try and stay a little positive at least. Leicester lose, Burnley draw so 7th still very much on.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Redartin on December 26, 2017, 10:58:02 PM
Can't wait for the cup game.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 26, 2017, 10:58:09 PM
What do people really expect?

A badly unbalanced squad
With major injuries
A manager with no transfer window to make personnel changes
And barely a month to get his ideas across

And we get a clean sheet and away point

4 weeks so we went to an equally as bad Southampton team and got spanked 4-1 that could have been 10-1

Perspective
"An 18th game without a win for West Brom, who were much the better side today but never really managed a clear chance to get a winner."

I for one, don't expect that from an Everton side
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 26, 2017, 10:58:25 PM
18 more months...

Ah, could do that standing on me head!
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: toffee_scot on December 26, 2017, 10:58:57 PM
In the beginning of the summer, we spoke about investing hundreds of millions of pounds in order to break in to the top 4 and compete with the top clubs.

Today, we played some of the most uninspiring football and shown an inferiority complex against a team who are 19th and who haven't won since the summer. We took off an attacking midfielder to bring on a holding midfielder towards the end despite 2 attacking players still on the bench.

I hope Sam Allardyce will at some point realise that this is not acceptable.



Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: sam of the south on December 26, 2017, 10:59:03 PM
Everytime I tuned in the ball was either sailing in the air over the halfway line, zipping past Martina as he failed to block a cross, travelling anywhere but forwards from the boot of Schneiderlin, or from Davies' foot to a West Brom player.

Have I missed any other incidents in between?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: everton1952 on December 26, 2017, 11:00:06 PM
good point!!!!!! What the fuck are you smoking mate? That was dire, turgid shite. There was no plan other than not lose to a team who haven't won for seventeen games and are so low on confidence. Fuck off.
It was to wind up the likes of you , you stupid turd.  Did you boo at the Chelsea game, or more probably turn your TV off as I doubt you were there.?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Heisenberg on December 26, 2017, 11:00:18 PM
I'll tell you what. If we set up in a neutral/attacking style against Chelsea and West Brom. We'd be one point better off than we are now.

Like I said. That shite against Chelsea was okay if we won West Brom. And we didn't. Not good enough at all
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: eugene on December 26, 2017, 11:01:04 PM
A point away, still steadying the ship. Rather this than 4-1 defeats.
I agree to a point but we really should be giving teams like this a bit of a contest donít you think ?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Shogun on December 26, 2017, 11:01:09 PM
Looking forward to 15% possession against Bournemouth on Saturday.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: everton1952 on December 26, 2017, 11:01:30 PM
Can't wait for the cup game.
Are you salivating at the prospect of a Shite win?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 26, 2017, 11:03:03 PM
Thankfully my stream kept dying, so I think I've only watched about 50-60 minutes of an atrocious display, rather than the full 90.

Sam'll say stuff about wanting to play good football in the post-match and that'll be more than enough to placate the apologists.
...youíre loving it.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: TheRam on December 26, 2017, 11:03:24 PM
That was dreadful
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: therealdunc on December 26, 2017, 11:03:31 PM
We haven't got crap players, we've got an unbalanced squad. I wish people would stop trotting out this utter shite.

West Brom have got crap players!
Lennon, Davies, Besic, Martina, Williams, Niasse, etc would prove you wrong

We have loads of crap
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: American Evertonian on December 26, 2017, 11:04:23 PM
Just don't get playing 5 at the back the whole time and still looking like we were more likely to concede. How he didn't switch to 4 in the back and put on Lookman or Sando just baffles me.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Bluedylan on December 26, 2017, 11:04:28 PM
Looking forward to 15% possession against Bournemouth on Saturday.

I reckon they will dick us. We've rode our luck in a few of these games but Bournemouth are the kind of team who will pass it through us and create chances.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Redartin on December 26, 2017, 11:04:43 PM
Bet @Brownie20 (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=169) loves those up and unders. Reminds him of his rugby days. Pity it's the wrong code.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Mac934 on December 26, 2017, 11:05:32 PM
It was to wind up the likes of you , you stupid turd.  Did you boo at the Chelsea game, or more probably turn your TV off as I doubt you were there.?
as I don't live in the uk, but can see every game live, so I can make a judgement on what I see. No I did not turn the tv off at 2 am during the Chelsea game nor boo the side. That was a great result against a form team. Whereas today's game was against a bad, out of form side in 19th place, which most teams have beaten. one should expect some sort of attacking game at least.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 26, 2017, 11:05:48 PM
If you think we can go from being an utter mess and getting humiliated by a poor Soton team - to turning over teams away from home - all within a few weeks, then you need to have a serious word with yourself.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: howard1334 on December 26, 2017, 11:06:29 PM
What do people really expect?

A badly unbalanced squad
With major injuries
A manager with no transfer window to make personnel changes
And barely a month to get his ideas across

And we get a clean sheet and away point

4 weeks so we went to an equally as bad Southampton team and got spanked 4-1 that could have been 10-1

Perspective



The squad did not need to be unbalanced today. We could have started with Lennon and Bolasie on the wings, and Sig through the middle.

Southhampton are a better side than West Brom. Unlike West Brom, when we played them, they had not failed to win in their last 16.

We opted for more aggressive tactics and team selection against Liverpool and Chelsea.

We still had plenty of talent in the team to beat West Brom soundly today. In addition to multiple attacking options on the bench. Yes, we have struggled without a first choice striker, and yes, we have too many No. 10s, but we still have like he 14th most expensive squad in the entire world -- there is a talent there.

The manager opted to play with five at the back, which requires the fullbacks to get forward in attack. At the same time, he was starting a right back at left back, knowing full well Martina is not a good attacking option when playing LB.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: therealdunc on December 26, 2017, 11:06:35 PM
I agree to a point but we really should be giving teams like this a bit of a contest donít you think ?

Who in our starting 11 today would get in West Bromís?

Perspective
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Bluedylan on December 26, 2017, 11:07:08 PM
Lennon, Davies, Besic, Martina, Williams, Niasse, etc would prove you wrong

We have loads of crap

Mate they've got people like Brunt, Hegazi, Livermore etc who wouldn't look out of place in a struggling Championship team.
 

There's a reason they haven't won for 4 months. We rinsed West Ham a few weeks ago, and actually played some enterprising football.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: howard1334 on December 26, 2017, 11:07:40 PM
Who in our starting 11 today would get in West Bromís?

Perspective

Are you serious?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 26, 2017, 11:07:50 PM
Iím assuming (hoping) heís targeting the Bournemouth game as the one to go for the win. With Rooney back I think itís reasonable to assume as such.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Rodenplav64 on December 26, 2017, 11:08:15 PM
Anyone who says that's the worst Everton performance they have ever seen are either lying or very young .
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Mac934 on December 26, 2017, 11:08:24 PM
Gareth Barry........oh hang on!
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Shogun on December 26, 2017, 11:08:36 PM
Iím assuming (hoping) heís targeting the Bournemouth game as the one to go for the win. With Rooney back I think itís reasonable to assume as such.

Is Rooney back or has he took that day off with Annual Leave as well?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: bacon sarnie on December 26, 2017, 11:09:17 PM
In the beginning of the summer, we spoke about investing hundreds of millions of pounds in order to break in to the top 4 and compete with the top clubs.

Today, we played some of the most uninspiring football and shown an inferiority complex against a team who are 19th and who haven't won since the summer. We took off an attacking midfielder to bring on a holding midfielder towards the end despite 2 attacking players still on the bench.

I hope Sam Allardyce will at some point realise that this is not acceptable.





Aye, but they just said he's doing the job he was brought in to do - save Everton from relegation and he's on an unbeaten streak.

Changer pour l'amour du changement my derriere mate.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: therealdunc on December 26, 2017, 11:09:31 PM
If you think we can go from being an utter mess and getting humiliated by a poor Soton team - to turning over teams away from home - all within a few weeks, then you need to have a serious word with yourself.

Haters are gonna hate
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Bluedylan on December 26, 2017, 11:11:15 PM
Haters are gonna hate

Sorry, are you a 12 year old girl bitching on Instagram?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Heisenberg on December 26, 2017, 11:12:30 PM
Playing for a 0-0 against West Brom la. I'm getting on the ale. Have a good one fellas
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Rodenplav64 on December 26, 2017, 11:13:37 PM
We will batter Bournemouth .
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Redartin on December 26, 2017, 11:14:48 PM
Are you salivating at the prospect of a Shite win?
Don't be silly, it'll be a scoreless draw, as will the replay. Klopp has a cardiac on the sidelines and we win on penalties (the only shots we get over the two games).
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 26, 2017, 11:15:45 PM
If you think we can go from being an utter mess and getting humiliated by a poor Soton team - to turning over teams away from home - all within a few weeks, then you need to have a serious word with yourself.
No one is expecting that
What we are expecting is to put passes together, retain possession, create chances agaisnt a side that is in absolute turmoil
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: everton1952 on December 26, 2017, 11:17:02 PM
I reckon they will dick us. We've rode our luck in a few of these games but Bournemouth are the kind of team who will pass it through us and create chances.
How many times has it got to be said. The new manager is picking up the shattered pieces left by Koeman, not a good side with good players having a temporary blip, but a losing gutless shambles of a team. Put up with this lack of creativity until the new man can have the time to infuse new more effective players and bin some of the crap ones. Guardiola could not make good players out of many of our current lot.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: everton1952 on December 26, 2017, 11:18:55 PM
Don't be silly, it'll be a scoreless draw, as will the replay. Klopp has a cardiac on the sidelines and we win on penalties (the only shots we get over the two games).
I would love that, except it might strain a few good Shite friendships to do it twice..
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 26, 2017, 11:18:56 PM
Anyone who says that's the worst Everton performance they have ever seen are either lying or very young .
Recency bias, innit.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Bluedylan on December 26, 2017, 11:20:13 PM
How many times has it got to be said. The new manager is picking up the shattered pieces left by Koeman, not a good side with good players having a temporary blip, but a losing gutless shambles of a team. Put up with this lack of creativity until the new man can have the time to infuse new more effective players and bin some of the crap ones. Guardiola could not make good players out of many of our current lot.

No. West Brom are a shambles. We have plenty of good players. We have resorted to literally pumping it to the corner flag and hoping to pick up free kicks or throw ins. Raise your expectations, and get some perspective.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: everton1952 on December 26, 2017, 11:21:04 PM
as I don't live in the uk, but can see every game live, so I can make a judgement on what I see. No I did not turn the tv off at 2 am during the Chelsea game nor boo the side. That was a great result against a form team. Whereas today's game was against a bad, out of form side in 19th place, which most teams have beaten. one should expect some sort of attacking game at least.
Bless you for staying up til 2am. I withdraw the "turd" reference unreservedly.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Macca77 on December 26, 2017, 11:24:06 PM
Shittest game ever
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: everton1952 on December 26, 2017, 11:24:39 PM
No. West Brom are a shambles. We have plenty of good players. We have resorted to literally pumping it to the corner flag and hoping to pick up free kicks or throw ins. Raise your expectations, and get some perspective.
Fair enough. Name an 11 containing "plenty of good players" by which I presume you mean PL class players and not hopefuls/wannabees.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blargins on December 26, 2017, 11:24:48 PM
Big Sam not too happy with the performance either.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: howard1334 on December 26, 2017, 11:25:27 PM
How many times has it got to be said. The new manager is picking up the shattered pieces left by Koeman, not a good side with good players having a temporary blip, but a losing gutless shambles of a team. Put up with this lack of creativity until the new man can have the time to infuse new more effective players and bin some of the crap ones. Guardiola could not make good players out of many of our current lot.

I think we clearly have some good players. To suggest otherwise is foolish. We may not have a great team, however, given we lack good players in some key positions atm.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Shogun on December 26, 2017, 11:26:25 PM
Big Sam not too happy with the performance either.

Did he talk about the need to be better in possession like he has done after every match despite our football getting progressively worse?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blargins on December 26, 2017, 11:27:13 PM
Did he talk about the need to be better in possession like he has done after every match despite our football getting progressively worse?

He did. At least he acknowledges it unlike our last two managers.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Macca77 on December 26, 2017, 11:27:38 PM
The Allardyce effect eh, setting up not to lose
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Silas on December 26, 2017, 11:28:18 PM
He still deserves a bit of slack but the performances have to start being better
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 26, 2017, 11:29:48 PM
Big Sam not too happy with the performance either.

He is the guy who had 5 defenders marking one striker though. Based on that I would imagine it was job done.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 26, 2017, 11:29:58 PM
He did. At least he acknowledges it unlike our last two managers.
Needs to do sommet about it now, been acknowledging it for a few games
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Mac934 on December 26, 2017, 11:30:44 PM
Bless you for staying up til 2am. I withdraw the "turd" reference unreservedly.
thanks 👍🏼
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blargins on December 26, 2017, 11:39:47 PM
Needs to do sommet about it now, been acknowledging it for a few games

I agree. His successfully completed the first part of his job, which was to stop conceding so many goals and too not get beaten.

Next he must make us play better and also buy some players to stop being so unbalanced.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Brownie20 on December 26, 2017, 11:42:54 PM
Bet @Brownie20 (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=169) loves those up and unders. Reminds him of his rugby days. Pity it's the wrong code.

Been watching rugby this afternoon
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: everton1952 on December 26, 2017, 11:43:26 PM
Watford are catching us up. The Silva swooners will be bigging him up again soon. He is so good looking and maybe a bit shy.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 26, 2017, 11:43:58 PM
The issue for me about today is not that he needs time and not that he's made us defensively better. It's that West Brom are shit, bang out of form yet we set up and played like it was Liverpool away. That can't go on and I refuse to be grateful for a point away at a side like that with a set up like that

Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: chart7 on December 26, 2017, 11:53:19 PM
How many hours has Sam had on the training pitch. Tactics take time to drill into a team for them to become second nature.  He has managed, in the limited training time available, to make us solid. Hadn't had time to train plan B, C or D so let's stick with the plan that is working.....let's keep the positive momentum and then build.

A point away to west Bromwich isn't great...but it's a hell of a lot better than a loss
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Macca77 on December 26, 2017, 11:53:47 PM
The issue for me about today is not that he needs time and not that he's made us defensively better. It's that West Brom are shit, bang out of form yet we set up and played like it was Liverpool away. That can't go on and I refuse to be grateful for a point away at a side like that with a set up like that



Exactly this
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: therealdunc on December 26, 2017, 11:54:56 PM
Needs to do sommet about it now, been acknowledging it for a few games

I donít think he can do anything about it until Jan 1st

With Rooney and Gueye injured we have no other good midfielders.

We really donít

They are a collection of dross like Besic to the inexperience and naive like Davies 

As previously stated, getting players out will be as important as who we bring in as the current squad ability does not reflect the clubs ambition
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Heisenberg on December 26, 2017, 11:55:16 PM
How many hours has Sam had on the training pitch. Tactics take time to drill into a team for them to become second nature.  He has managed, in the limited training time available, to make us solid. Hadn't had time to train plan B, C or D so let's stick with the plan that is working.....let's keep the positive momentum and then build.

A point away to west Bromwich isn't great...but it's a hell of a lot better than a loss

Not that much better, just one point. Would rather have 'gambled' and went for what should have been a winnable 3
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: American Evertonian on December 26, 2017, 11:56:01 PM
How many hours has Sam had on the training pitch.

From the looks of him he hasn't put on a pair of trainers in years.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: therealdunc on December 26, 2017, 11:57:48 PM
From the looks of him he hasn't put on a pair of trainers in years.

You really havenít got a clue

Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blargins on December 26, 2017, 11:58:51 PM
From the looks of him he hasn't put on a pair of trainers in years.

Well done. You translated into English there :)
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: everton1952 on December 27, 2017, 12:01:45 AM
One thing for certain is that there have been so many games in the short time Allardyce and his team have been here, they can have no illusions about the size of the task ahead of them. They have harnessed the pluck and the effort and must have a clear idea of how lacking the squad is in creativity and goal scoring. It might take 3 signings to fix that, and they may not all come in January. Lots of patience needed I think.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Mayor Farnum on December 27, 2017, 12:02:04 AM
The galling thing is that during the Premier League years Everton has always been known for expansive, free-scoring attacking football, especially away from home.

Allardyce comes here and dismantles it in a month.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: therealdunc on December 27, 2017, 12:05:02 AM
The galling thing is that during the Premier League years Everton has always been known for expansive, free-scoring attacking football, especially away from home.

Allardyce comes here and dismantles it in a month.

Love it

If we donít pass the ball and dribble past their entire 11, the manager is negative and must be ousted immediately .
We must believe everything the London Press tell us
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: chart7 on December 27, 2017, 12:06:24 AM
Not that much better, just one point. Would rather have 'gambled' and went for what should have been a winnable 3
Confidence is still low and fragile though. You can't underestimate the power of not losing.

Go out and be more expansive without it being properly drilled and give them a few clear cut chances? They score, we lose and then what? Same again against Bournemouth??

Would rather let confidence build, get more time at finch farm, get new players into a confident squad and then progress
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Silas on December 27, 2017, 12:06:44 AM
The galling thing is that during the Premier League years Everton has always been known for expansive, free-scoring attacking football, especially away from home.

Allardyce comes here and dismantles it in a month.

No we fucking haven't! We've been known for dogged hard work with flashes of quality.  We are missing the latter right now
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 27, 2017, 12:09:19 AM
Love it

If we don't pass the ball and dribble past their entire 11, the manager is negative and must be ousted immediately .
We must believe everything the London Press tell us
Utter shite and you (I'd hope) fucking know it
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Mayor Farnum on December 27, 2017, 12:17:36 AM
No we fucking haven't! We've been known for dogged hard work with flashes of quality.  We are missing the latter right now

And the last two games are the only ones that have been without the flashes of quality. Not bad considering the upturn in results, the poor squad and a manager not yet able to field one player that he bought himself.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 27, 2017, 12:30:27 AM
To be fair we have no striker to hold the ball up, no-one in the middle to put their foot on the ball, no fit left footer in the squad and no-one capable of carrying the ball and beating a man. Amassing points as we go until we can rectify those four issues should be seen as progress.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Ridge on December 27, 2017, 12:32:18 AM
Think he wanted Keane to deal with the aerial threat from set pieces, so we sacrificed our own shape. Allardyce said we were average in possession, sounds very generous.

West Brom had more of the ball and used it better, they are in bottom 2 for both of those stats this season. It's not like they played well, neither team wanted the ball, a dangerous day to be a spectator.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: eugene on December 27, 2017, 12:33:22 AM
The galling thing is that during the Premier League years Everton has always been known for expansive, free-scoring attacking football, especially away from home.

Allardyce comes here and dismantles it in a month.
I think you are being unfair mate, he has inherited a goal shy team and until the last 3 games we have done rather well for goals, 2 of them being top 2
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blargins on December 27, 2017, 12:36:59 AM
Well, that's December we're unbeaten in. Allardyce must be up for manager of the month, mustn't he?

Pep should win that though as he's won every game.

But not a bad start to a club that was in turmoil 4 weeks ago.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: hill135 on December 27, 2017, 12:39:08 AM
People expecting expansive football need to adjust their expectations.

The squad is not up to it.

One of our five centrebacks is press-resistant and comfortable on the ball and the rest are absolute hoof-merchants; nearly all of our central midfielders are crabs and none are capable of controlling any game; none of our strikers can make it stick it in the final third; and none of our attackers generally scare teams enough to make them think twice about pushing up the pitch. That's not a recipe for being on the front-foot.

And that's before you remember that about six games ago we were an absolute laughing stock.

It's all very well saying it's WBA and they're shit but there's a reason why we've won one away game in a year.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Simon Paul on December 27, 2017, 12:45:01 AM
thought we'd get to January at least before Tom Davies took over from Ross Barkley as being the local lad everyone loves to hate
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 27, 2017, 12:47:26 AM
thought we'd get to January at least before Tom Davies took over from Ross Barkley as being the local lad everyone loves to hate

Come off it. He's not playing well, it's reasonable for people to state the blindingly obvious and it's not his fault he's being picked as we have no other options. I think you need to get a bit more festive cheer in your life today.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Mayor Farnum on December 27, 2017, 12:50:30 AM
thought we'd get to January at least before Tom Davies took over from Ross Barkley as being the local lad everyone loves to hate

I thought you'd been watching Everton long enough to know better.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: eugene on December 27, 2017, 12:51:13 AM
Come off it. He's not playing well, it's reasonable for people to state the blindingly obvious and it's not his fault he's being picked as we have no other options. I think you need to get a bit more festive cheer in your life today.
Hear hear let me offer you a goblet of the finest pino and bless you and yours for the festive period, itís only a game?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: bluenuck on December 27, 2017, 12:52:34 AM
Not a fan of 3 at the back with this team. Thought he would have changed it at half or on the hour mark.

Agree with many on here that going forward we're dreadful.

But We need to realize that we are missing a lot. No Rooney, gueye, Barkley, Coleman, left footed left back, and not a proper bonified striker. And bolasie just got back.

Tough to play expansive attractive football when you're missing this.

To add to this we basically have 4 players out there learning on the job, an at best right back playing left back, and a guy playing for the first time in over a full year.

I don't know what people are expecting out of this.

Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: eugene on December 27, 2017, 01:01:48 AM
Wow wax on the top of my Stilton anybody talk me through it?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Everton Mint on December 27, 2017, 01:05:04 AM
Allardyce also said the squad is stretched with injuries and illness in a very busy spell of games.

He isnt just playing who or how he wants, its who is available.

Rooney still being out was another big blow today.

Give the boss a break.. I think he deserves it.

If you want to moan, moan at the poorest players who cant keep the ball for 5 secs.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: sam of the south on December 27, 2017, 01:07:36 AM
From the looks of him he hasn't put on a pair of trainers in years.

I like how you say trainers, whereas I would imagine sneakers or kicks would be your regular parlance
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Shogun on December 27, 2017, 01:11:08 AM
Allardyce also said the squad is stretched with injuries and illness in a very busy spell of games.

He isnt just playing who or how he wants, its who is available.

Rooney still being out was another big blow today.

Give the boss a break.. I think he deserves it.

If you want to moan, moan at the poorest players who cant keep the ball for 5 secs.

Funnily enough all I read on twitter from WHU fans was that he was full of excuses.

The injuries is another thing he's mentioned every week.

Once the results drop (and let's be honest, we've had the luck so far) then these sort of things will start to wear thin.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 27, 2017, 01:18:54 AM
Funnily enough all I read on twitter from WHU fans was that he was full of excuses.

The injuries is another thing he's mentioned every week.

Once the results drop (and let's be honest, we've had the luck so far) then these sort of things will start to wear thin.

West Ham fans on mass insist they've won a World Cup. I'm not sure what value their opinions have
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Mayor Farnum on December 27, 2017, 01:23:20 AM
Funnily enough all I read on twitter from WHU fans was that he was full of excuses.

The injuries is another thing he's mentioned every week.

Once the results drop (and let's be honest, we've had the luck so far) then these sort of things will start to wear thin.

Oh my God managers making excuses for results. When did that all start?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 27, 2017, 01:30:32 AM
Whereís @GLewis when you need some reason?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Dr. Sponge on December 27, 2017, 01:35:56 AM
I said it was disappointing not to win, but I've read some comments since, plus I'm a mouthy bastard lately, so...

Let's keep some perspective please.

We have zero left backs, a right back that's played about 10 top flight games.

No Wayne Rooney, no Adrissa Gueye. No decent striker. A 50% Bolasie. No Seamus Coleman.

Niasse.

One of the worst away records around.

Very shaken confidence after our worst start... in PL history? (Something like that).

After having our arses pummelled left, right and centre this season, and fearing the worst, I'm pleased that we've well and truly stopped the rot. We're solid again.

This is the first disappointing result since the new team took over, and it still wasn't a defeat.

There's a lot of agenda pushing on here lately, which is a bit weird.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Shogun on December 27, 2017, 01:38:19 AM
Disappointing to see Allardyce trying to shoehorn three CBs in as well.

Understandable to an extent against Chelsea but we showed at Newcastle that itís not necessary.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 27, 2017, 01:41:29 AM
How was Davies today?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: therealdunc on December 27, 2017, 01:44:47 AM
West Ham fans on mass insist they've won a World Cup. I'm not sure what value their opinions have

Agree

Most dilusional fans around.

Think they play a special way that they havenít played in over 40 years.

Big Sam was right about West Ham fans, they would turn on Bilic. The West Ham fans at the time laughed, but look who was correct.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Major Clanger on December 27, 2017, 01:49:05 AM
Agree

Most dilusional fans around.

Think they play a special way that they havenít played in over 40 years.

Big Sam was right about West Ham fans, they would turn on Bilic. The West Ham fans at the time laughed, but look who was correct.

It's hardly the prediction of the century.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: therealdunc on December 27, 2017, 01:49:37 AM
thought we'd get to January at least before Tom Davies took over from Ross Barkley as being the local lad everyone loves to hate

Call a spade a spade

Davies has been dreadful all season, today as bad as his performance in the Merseyside derby
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blargins on December 27, 2017, 01:49:51 AM
Disappointing to see Allardyce trying to shoehorn three CBs in as well.

Understandable to an extent against Chelsea but we showed at Newcastle that itís not necessary.

Three cbs was a mistake, totally agree on that. Perhaps it was because he doesn't have faith that Schneiderlin is up to the defensive task on his own?

I'm happy to remain unbeaten in a month. I'm happy we've only conceded 2 goals in the same space of time, and only one of those goals actually mattered and hurt us. We're stable, we're hard to beat again. Now it's up to Sam to find the balance and get us to win more regularly and against shit teams too.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: mikey_blue on December 27, 2017, 01:52:04 AM
Mistake by Big Sam today. Shouldn't of broke up a winning formula. Live and learn. Still picked up a point away from home so it's not all bad.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 27, 2017, 02:19:07 AM
We were all talking about damage limitation til the window opened. We've made it and in a relatively good position too.
We were obviously shit today but then we've spent the last 4 months listing all the stuff our side is lacking. Let's see where we stand when the window shuts.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: loroloco on December 27, 2017, 02:20:00 AM
Call a spade a spade

Davies has been dreadful all season, today as bad as his performance in the Merseyside derby

call a spade a spade. heīs fucking 19 years old, heīs a blue and he has the world at his feet if only he can keep those feet on the ground. give the lad a break. itīs really pissing me off the amount of evertonians who want us to become the new man city. where are all the city local lads playing?? we all want success but if it comes with the price of us selling our soul then you can keep it as far as iīm concerned. jj kenny has been a mountain for us in the past few weeks. rooney has been our leading man. a lot of people pissed off that ross seems to be out the door. i saw joe royle getting stick on here recently when he retired over how things went during unsyīs stint. i want success too, but i want it with the knowlege that everton will always remain the pride of merseyside, the peopleīs club, the team my dad brought me to support and his dad before him, the same club i bring my own kids to see. youīre giving a 19 year old lad, whose dream is to play for his beloved blues, stick. get a fucking life mate.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Dr. Sponge on December 27, 2017, 02:24:56 AM
Davies and DCL should be granted immunity from heavy criticism, seen as they both have the football age of a sperm.

Far too young to have their performances analyses too harshly. The real fail was the recruitment in the summer.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 27, 2017, 02:42:31 AM
call a spade a spade. heīs fucking 19 years old, heīs a blue and he has the world at his feet if only he can keep those feet on the ground. give the lad a break. itīs really pissing me off the amount of evertonians who want us to become the new man city. where are all the city local lads playing?? we all want success but if it comes with the price of us selling our soul then you can keep it as far as iīm concerned. jj kenny has been a mountain for us in the past few weeks. rooney has been our leading man. a lot of people pissed off that ross seems to be out the door. i saw joe royle getting stick on here recently when he retired over how things went during unsyīs stint. i want success too, but i want it with the knowlege that everton will always remain the pride of merseyside, the peopleīs club, the team my dad brought me to support and his dad before him, the same club i bring my own kids to see. youīre giving a 19 year old lad, whose dream is to play for his beloved blues, stick. get a fucking life mate.

Sorry but if you prefer this to what city are doing you're a lunatic
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Macca77 on December 27, 2017, 02:51:27 AM
Allardyce is shit
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Escla on December 27, 2017, 02:54:16 AM
call a spade a spade. heīs fucking 19 years old, heīs a blue and he has the world at his feet if only he can keep those feet on the ground. give the lad a break. itīs really pissing me off the amount of evertonians who want us to become the new man city. where are all the city local lads playing?? we all want success but if it comes with the price of us selling our soul then you can keep it as far as iīm concerned. jj kenny has been a mountain for us in the past few weeks. rooney has been our leading man. a lot of people pissed off that ross seems to be out the door. i saw joe royle getting stick on here recently when he retired over how things went during unsyīs stint. i want success too, but i want it with the knowlege that everton will always remain the pride of merseyside, the peopleīs club, the team my dad brought me to support and his dad before him, the same club i bring my own kids to see. youīre giving a 19 year old lad, whose dream is to play for his beloved blues, stick. get a fucking life mate.

That dream  that your local lads have to play for their beloved blues, same one that Jeffers, Rooney, Rodwell, Barkley had ?



Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 27, 2017, 02:58:52 AM
Allardyce is shit


Not wrong. Doesn't matter how logsided and in many cases shit our squad is. We've decided we have top 4 ambitions and he's falling short.

I'm genuinely fucking livid he hasn't turned DCL into Kane and Lennon into Salah. Where is our free flowing football.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: loroloco on December 27, 2017, 02:59:14 AM
Sorry but if you prefer this to what city are doing you're a lunatic

fair enough mate. not gonna get into a back and forth on here. itīs pointless. youīd prefer to support a soulless club, with no connection to the city, that wins. canīt complain with that i suppose. what will you do when the support for the club is outweighed by foreigners than locals and the club then decides to go play in london instead  because its more profitable for them to be based there than in liverpool. when the fans in china are more important than the oneīs in the ground. you think thatīs not where the league is headed?? you think money isnīt the driving factor in football these days as it is in the states??  (rhetorical questions of course).

so yeah, maybe i am a lunatic, but iīd still prefer to support everton, in liverpool, where local boys actually have a hope of playing for us, fighting for a european spot than be a sell out club where i canīt get a season ticket and the game per game ticket price is a weeks wages with the ground full of japanese tourists. but thatīs just me. i for one wish tom davies all the best and hope he goes on to win the fucking balon dor, while wearing the blue of everton.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Mayor Farnum on December 27, 2017, 02:59:59 AM
call a spade a spade. heīs fucking 19 years old, heīs a blue and he has the world at his feet if only he can keep those feet on the ground. give the lad a break. itīs really pissing me off the amount of evertonians who want us to become the new man city. where are all the city local lads playing?? we all want success but if it comes with the price of us selling our soul then you can keep it as far as iīm concerned. jj kenny has been a mountain for us in the past few weeks. rooney has been our leading man. a lot of people pissed off that ross seems to be out the door. i saw joe royle getting stick on here recently when he retired over how things went during unsyīs stint. i want success too, but i want it with the knowlege that everton will always remain the pride of merseyside, the peopleīs club, the team my dad brought me to support and his dad before him, the same club i bring my own kids to see. youīre giving a 19 year old lad, whose dream is to play for his beloved blues, stick. get a fucking life mate.

I've never really understood this idea that acquiring the best talent equated to selling your soul. For thirty years we've been putting the names of tinned meat, mobile phones and bookies on the front of our shirts. The sleeves have now been sold. Selling your soul appears to be the level that we haven't been in a position to exploit yet and calling it such is our way with dealing with it.
I am just old enough to remember when Everton could write bigger cheques than most; it's great!
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 27, 2017, 03:09:23 AM
fair enough mate. not gonna get into a back and forth on here. itīs pointless. youīd prefer to support a soulless club, with no connection to the city, that wins. canīt complain with that i suppose. what will you do when the support for the club is outweighed by foreigners than locals and the club then decides to go play in london instead  because its more profitable for them to be based there than in liverpool. when the fans in china are more important than the oneīs in the ground. you think thatīs not where the league is headed?? you think money isnīt the driving factor in football these days as it is in the states??  (rhetorical questions of course).

so yeah, maybe i am a lunatic, but iīd still prefer to support everton, in liverpool, where local boys actually have a hope of playing for us, fighting for a european spot than be a sell out club where i canīt get a season ticket and the game per game ticket price is a weeks wages with the ground full of japanese tourists. but thatīs just me. i for one wish tom davies all the best and hope he goes on to win the fucking balon dor, while wearing the blue of everton.


City didn't relocate, Davies won't win the world player of the year. Didn't see any sad city fans when Aguero scored that last minute title decider

I just want to win. I couldn't care less about JJK and Davies if we were playing Alves and Modric in their positions.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: benny on December 27, 2017, 03:09:57 AM
That dream  that your local lads have to play for their beloved blues, same one that Jeffers, Rooney, Rodwell, Barkley had ?




                 there`s nothing wrong in wanting or dreaming mate
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: loroloco on December 27, 2017, 03:28:18 AM
That dream  that your local lads have to play for their beloved blues, same one that Jeffers, Rooney, Rodwell, Barkley had ?

sorry pal. itīs christmas, and i really donīt mean to be argumentative, but you have just inadvertantly made the exact point i was trying to make. itīs exactly because those lads were all evertonians that they were given a chance at such young ages. if they were at different clubs, would they would have been given the same opportunities??

gonna sign out now if itīs alright. i seem to have pissed a few of you off. my bad. iīm just a fan a tom davies and love the fact that the young lads get a chance. enjoy the rest of your boxing day.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Sir Stealth on December 27, 2017, 03:31:03 AM
Didnít see the game as I was in work

But

Lower your expectations if you think you are going to see progressive attacking football

This manager is known for solid defences, escaping relegation battles and playing long ball

Weíve been playing loads of games in a short space of time with injuries galore

Best case scenario this season is we finish 7th and some young players get some good first team experience and then we get a better manager in the summer

We were in trouble when Sam came in, weíre not anymore

We have barely won away from home in 12 months, itís not easy to string together back to back wins away from Home when you are in that kind of form

He will never win us a trophy or get us a top 4 finish - heís purely here to make us harder to beat until the end of the season - it is what it is
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: everton1952 on December 27, 2017, 03:51:17 AM
Saw where Sam was coming from in his honest post match interview. No flannel, we are playing young players who should not be exposed to so many continual games. Some of them panic and can't pass a ball straight such as Davies and DCL.  Other players are ill or still not fit to be selected. WBA should have won. He said it as if he expects improvements when Rooney and others get fit.  Trouble is there are no signs at all of Barkley, Baines, Seamus or even the much maligned McCarthy being fit any time soon. Clearly there are others who do not get selected at all for whatever reason such as Vlasic, Besic etc. Bolassie is probably 5 or 6 games away from being match fit. It is probably going to be a rocky month of January but we are not losing games despite some poor performances. 
Title: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Confucius on December 27, 2017, 04:49:34 AM
Think it's ridiculous to start 5 at the back against West Brom. Even worse is to keep the back5 for 90 minutes. A little bit of a change. Say Lennon for cb or Baningime for a Cb after 55-60min means we more attacking and have a chance to win the game.

Piss poor from Allardyce today.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on December 27, 2017, 06:10:38 AM
Think it's ridiculous to start 5 at the back against West Brom. Even worse is to keep the back5 for 90 minutes. A little bit of a change. Say Lennon for cb or Baningime for a Cb after 55-60min means we more attacking and have a chance to win the game.

Piss poor from Allardyce today.

Post of the day ^^
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: TrevorSteven on December 27, 2017, 06:11:57 AM
Allardyce and his style of football is one thing, but the worst thing is the quality of our players.

It actually isn't any flair, vision or creativity in this team. He has made A team out of this players Allardyce, but when Chris Brunt looks like Messi out there you understand that the days of Earl Barett, Joe Parkinson, Lee Carsley, Barry Horne and John Ebbrell is back.

Williams is crazy and has nothing to offer starting attacks, Holgate may have it in him but made som scary sloppy passes forward, Keane suddenly looks extremely uncomfortable passing the ball, Schneiderlein has lost his silky first touch and never seem to manage taking control of the ball, Martina is average at best, Kenny is the less coordinated physically player I ever have seen - Its a miracle he is not falling in his own legs more often and every time he is gonna make a pass it looks like the biggest strugle a man can have...will he fall, will he hit the ball, where will the ball go? At least he runs like Forest Gump making him so appreciated by the FA that he will get insanly many youth caps. Poor Davies not beeing in form and surrounded by nobody who actually can make an intelligent pass giving him to much of A burden beeing the creative force he still ain't but may one day become. Gylfi is our "kicker" - too bad we dont have the possibility to just put him on at every set-pieces for then watching the rest of the match from the sidelines. Its incredible how fast half a billion Norwegian kroner can be spent on something so slow and stationary. At top we have the diva DCL who would never create chances even if he had any player close to him when he is jumping into the air trying to win A totally unecessary header 30 meters from the goal - fortunately for him he does not have any players close to him, so nobody could complain. This fantastic talent, especially when you compare him to his mate at the England youth team - Solanke -
clearly has everything to offer that Solanke doesnt. No flair, no technique, no dribling, awfull finishing - espescially if he by accident come one on one with the goalkeeper - freaking out loosing all composure and just hits the ball with closed eyes. The scary truth is that A Bolasie, injured for A year is the only player who actually is even close to be able to beat A man.

This Everton-team is really one of the worst we have had for some time, but still this Sam-guy makes them keep the clean-sheet making it possible to get A fluke win here and there
because of A fluke goal here and there.

Happy times!
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: mikey_blue on December 27, 2017, 01:53:52 PM
Allardyce and his style of football is one thing, but the worst thing is the quality of our players.

It actually isn't any flair, vision or creativity in this team. He has made A team out of this players Allardyce, but when Chris Brunt looks like Messi out there you understand that the days of Earl Barett, Joe Parkinson, Lee Carsley, Barry Horne and John Ebbrell is back.

Williams is crazy and has nothing to offer starting attacks, Holgate may have it in him but made som scary sloppy passes forward, Keane suddenly looks extremely uncomfortable passing the ball, Schneiderlein has lost his silky first touch and never seem to manage taking control of the ball, Martina is average at best, Kenny is the less coordinated physically player I ever have seen - Its a miracle he is not falling in his own legs more often and every time he is gonna make a pass it looks like the biggest strugle a man can have...will he fall, will he hit the ball, where will the ball go? At least he runs like Forest Gump making him so appreciated by the FA that he will get insanly many youth caps. Poor Davies not beeing in form and surrounded by nobody who actually can make an intelligent pass giving him to much of A burden beeing the creative force he still ain't but may one day become. Gylfi is our "kicker" - too bad we dont have the possibility to just put him on at every set-pieces for then watching the rest of the match from the sidelines. Its incredible how fast half a billion Norwegian kroner can be spent on something so slow and stationary. At top we have the diva DCL who would never create chances even if he had any player close to him when he is jumping into the air trying to win A totally unecessary header 30 meters from the goal - fortunately for him he does not have any players close to him, so nobody could complain. This fantastic talent, especially when you compare him to his mate at the England youth team - Solanke -
clearly has everything to offer that Solanke doesnt. No flair, no technique, no dribling, awfull finishing - espescially if he by accident come one on one with the goalkeeper - freaking out loosing all composure and just hits the ball with closed eyes. The scary truth is that A Bolasie, injured for A year is the only player who actually is even close to be able to beat A man.

This Everton-team is really one of the worst we have had for some time, but still this Sam-guy makes them keep the clean-sheet making it possible to get A fluke win here and there
because of A fluke goal here and there.

Happy times!

Well that was 3 minutes I'm never getting back.

That was the most "Less coordinated" post I've seen in some time.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Juanito on December 27, 2017, 02:24:42 PM
When I saw 5 at the back with Martina, a mediocre championship right back, playing left wing back, I knew it was going to be a long afternoon.  Also too much to ask of Kenny so early on his career to pose an attack threat as a wing back.

This formation at Old Trafford or Stamford Bridge maybe, but the Hawthorns? The irony is that West Brom nearly won the game with us not having a go. Thatís why I think the Big Sam effect is going to become a little weary once we hit those Ďmagical 40 pointsí
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: UnsyisaRhino on December 27, 2017, 03:17:30 PM
Allardyce and his style of football is one thing, but the worst thing is the quality of our players.

It actually isn't any flair, vision or creativity in this team. He has made A team out of this players Allardyce, but when Chris Brunt looks like Messi out there you understand that the days of Earl Barett, Joe Parkinson, Lee Carsley, Barry Horne and John Ebbrell is back.

Williams is crazy and has nothing to offer starting attacks, Holgate may have it in him but made som scary sloppy passes forward, Keane suddenly looks extremely uncomfortable passing the ball, Schneiderlein has lost his silky first touch and never seem to manage taking control of the ball, Martina is average at best, Kenny is the less coordinated physically player I ever have seen - Its a miracle he is not falling in his own legs more often and every time he is gonna make a pass it looks like the biggest strugle a man can have...will he fall, will he hit the ball, where will the ball go? At least he runs like Forest Gump making him so appreciated by the FA that he will get insanly many youth caps. Poor Davies not beeing in form and surrounded by nobody who actually can make an intelligent pass giving him to much of A burden beeing the creative force he still ain't but may one day become. Gylfi is our "kicker" - too bad we dont have the possibility to just put him on at every set-pieces for then watching the rest of the match from the sidelines. Its incredible how fast half a billion Norwegian kroner can be spent on something so slow and stationary. At top we have the diva DCL who would never create chances even if he had any player close to him when he is jumping into the air trying to win A totally unecessary header 30 meters from the goal - fortunately for him he does not have any players close to him, so nobody could complain. This fantastic talent, especially when you compare him to his mate at the England youth team - Solanke -
clearly has everything to offer that Solanke doesnt. No flair, no technique, no dribling, awfull finishing - espescially if he by accident come one on one with the goalkeeper - freaking out loosing all composure and just hits the ball with closed eyes. The scary truth is that A Bolasie, injured for A year is the only player who actually is even close to be able to beat A man.

This Everton-team is really one of the worst we have had for some time, but still this Sam-guy makes them keep the clean-sheet making it possible to get A fluke win here and there
because of A fluke goal here and there.

Happy times!

Put the sherry down and step away from the noose.

Fuckin ell. You've turned positives into negatives, exaggerated faults, fabricated others and turned an unbalanced team lacking in key areas into one of the worst we've had in some time. That better be a pretty short period of time.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Rodenplav64 on December 27, 2017, 03:22:20 PM
Well that was 3 minutes I'm never getting back.

That was the most "Less coordinated" post I've seen in some time.

Like a pissed up ramble from your mate . " Ah fuck off lid I've had enough ". Or maybe English isn't his first language .
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Escla on December 27, 2017, 03:31:02 PM
                 there`s nothing wrong in wanting or dreaming mate

Who said there was ?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on December 27, 2017, 03:33:22 PM
There's just as big of a job sorting players out that aren't needed and try get rid to make room for new ones.
It's just as much of  mess as the league position was, he's eased the biggest fear of relegation, not out of the woods yet but looking a lot better that's all he can do as the squad is, it was never going to be pretty, a short spell with the wrong man caused this combined with the one before, he's not going to be here for ever.
          Never had the feeling before that we could beat nobody as it was under Koeman so i'll take this until the end of the season as long as we are safe, because we wern't before.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Rodenplav64 on December 27, 2017, 03:42:27 PM
Where have all the people who thought Koemans signings were good gone ?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: BlueForYou on December 27, 2017, 03:46:02 PM
Gone nowhere - I'm here!

Good manager, Koeman - bad summer!

Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: eugene on December 27, 2017, 03:49:55 PM
Think our best hope is to cut a loss on the likes of klassen and Sandro,
They obviously arenít premier league players and get some proven steady eddyís with experience to see us thru this season what about deffo
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: stirlingblue on December 27, 2017, 03:51:09 PM
Where have all the people who thought Koemans signings were good gone ?

Not that I'm a Koeman defender but surely Klaasen in there couldn't be worse than Schniederlin.

For a midfielder he has this amazing ability to be within a yard of an opposition player whenever we have the ball, and nowhere near one whenever they have the ball.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: eugene on December 27, 2017, 03:54:02 PM
Not that I'm a Koeman defender but surely Klaasen in there couldn't be worse than Schniederlin.

For a midfielder he has this amazing ability to be within a yard of an opposition player whenever we have the ball, and nowhere near one whenever they have the ball.
I see what you mean but he just seems so lightweight
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: TheRam on December 27, 2017, 04:16:26 PM
Where have all the people who thought Koemans signings were good gone ?

What a really random thing to say in the match day thread.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: sirblue57 on December 27, 2017, 04:26:36 PM
sorry pal. itīs christmas, and i really donīt mean to be argumentative, but you have just inadvertantly made the exact point i was trying to make. itīs exactly because those lads were all evertonians that they were given a chance at such young ages. if they were at different clubs, would they would have been given the same opportunities??

gonna sign out now if itīs alright. i seem to have pissed a few of you off. my bad. iīm just a fan a tom davies and love the fact that the young lads get a chance. enjoy the rest of your boxing day.
I agree with you mate
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Rodenplav64 on December 27, 2017, 04:46:37 PM
What a really random thing to say in the match day thread.

Its not really random if you read the previous fucking comments about Allardyce needing to get rid and get in players is it ?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: BlueMaquis on December 27, 2017, 05:36:03 PM
Where have all the people who thought Koemans signings were good gone ?

Wasn't that most of us?

Not that I'm a Koeman defender but surely Klaasen in there couldn't be worse than Schniederlin.

For a midfielder he has this amazing ability to be within a yard of an opposition player whenever we have the ball, and nowhere near one whenever they have the ball.

Schneiderlin was also a Koeman signing.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: brap2 on December 27, 2017, 06:23:44 PM
Awful football game that
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Jimmywhack on December 27, 2017, 06:45:32 PM


Awful game that
No football involved
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 27, 2017, 06:57:28 PM
We have no real threat from fullback, no real threat from the wingers, no ball carrying playmaker and no striker. Our entire attack needs ripping out and starting again
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: eugene on December 27, 2017, 07:01:30 PM
We have no real threat from fullback, no real threat from the wingers, no ball carrying playmaker and no striker. Our entire attack needs ripping out and starting again
Phew thank fuck for Pickford then eh?
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blue1948 on December 27, 2017, 07:08:21 PM
No football involved


Shh
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blue1948 on December 27, 2017, 07:09:40 PM
We have no real threat from fullback, no real threat from the wingers, no ball carrying playmaker and no striker. Our entire attack needs ripping out and starting again
You must tone down this positivity .
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 27, 2017, 07:11:22 PM
Phew thank fuck for Pickford then eh?

We look defensively good now (though not yesterday) we've bolasie and Coleman to come back. We still need a striker a winger a left back and either barkley or a direct replacement imo though
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 27, 2017, 07:20:07 PM
You must tone down this positivity .


Im not actually negative about it. Can't wait for the window to open so we can start sorting it.

I think our fans have talked up players who've been dreadfully inaffective and the reality is it's an easy fix with a couple of good signings and a few coming back from injury.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blue1948 on December 27, 2017, 08:18:39 PM
Im not actually negative about it. Can't wait for the window to open so we can start sorting it.

I think our fans have talked up players who've been dreadfully inaffective and the reality is it's an easy fix with a couple of good signings and a few coming back from injury.
I have watched a few of your posts and I don't think you give half of the players a chance .How people can cane Sandro and Klaasen beats me ,I don't understand it.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 27, 2017, 08:22:02 PM
I have watched a few of your posts and I don't think you give half of the players a chance .How people can cane Sandro and Klaasen beats me ,I don't understand it.

I've never slagged either of them off.

Think both haven't been given a fair chance

It's more DCL, Rooney, Sigurdsson and i guess even Lennon for me

Nowhere near good enough. Not the playmaker we needed though his numbers have been very good. Ridiculous signing. Very good defensively but not good enough in attack
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Ravardo on December 27, 2017, 08:28:07 PM
Not that I'm a Koeman defender but surely Klaasen in there couldn't be worse than Schniederlin.

For a midfielder he has this amazing ability to be within a yard of an opposition player whenever we have the ball, and nowhere near one whenever they have the ball.

Exactly what i said yesterday about him,, for a defensive mid he made 1 tackle in the whole game but made 5-6 recoveries...i watched him for all the second half and he hardley touched the ball just 16 passes and 4 of those were wayward,,the  most annoying factor of his game is he will run along side players on their way or into our box and not even bother to tackle or even put them off we seriously need to get rid of him...compare him to gana gueye this season his made over 300 less passes and 35 less tackles than gana gueye the only thing he's leading stat wise is red cards and theres no sign of him doing any better now gana is injured
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blue1948 on December 27, 2017, 08:30:03 PM
I've never slagged either of them off.

Think both haven't been given a fair chance

It's more DCL, Rooney, Sigurdsson and i guess even Lennon for me

Nowhere near good enough. Not the playmaker we needed though his numbers have been very good. Ridiculous signing. Very good defensively but not good enough in attack
If you cannot accept Rooney -who is our top scorer -then I am out .
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Faceatthefence on December 27, 2017, 08:30:36 PM
I have watched a few of your posts and I don't think you give half of the players a chance .How people can cane Sandro and Klaasen beats me ,I don't understand it.
Doesnt need us armchair managers to debate both players abilities,the club would not put 30 million pounds worth of talent(i say that loosely)in the U23,s,or on the bench with regularity if the coaches/manager thought they had a pulse.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on December 27, 2017, 08:36:34 PM
If you cannot accept Rooney -who is our top scorer -then I am out .


I don't not accept him. I'm just baffled as to how we sign 3 number 10s and end up without a genuine playmaker

I just think we needed different types of player than the 1s we actually signed

I'm really not sure where Sigurdsson or rooney would play if we signed a striker a winger and barkley stayed.

We'd have much more control of games with barkley instead.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blue1948 on December 27, 2017, 08:59:24 PM
Doesnt need us armchair managers to debate both players abilities,the club would not put 30 million pounds worth of talent(i say that loosely)in the U23,s,or on the bench with regularity if the coaches/manager thought they had a pulse.
So we don't need a club who puts 30Mill if they" thought they had a pulse ?? Fuck me I thought I had a hard Xmas
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: blue1948 on December 27, 2017, 09:00:20 PM
I don't not accept him. I'm just baffled as to how we sign 3 number 10s and end up without a genuine playmaker

I just think we needed different types of player than the 1s we actually signed

I'm really not sure where Sigurdsson or rooney would play if we signed a striker a winger and barkley stayed.

We'd have much more control of games with barkley instead.
I know I said I was out but for your sake stay off the wacky!
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: Lxxx on December 27, 2017, 09:15:49 PM
I don't not accept him. I'm just baffled as to how we sign 3 number 10s and end up without a genuine playmaker

I just think we needed different types of player than the 1s we actually signed

I'm really not sure where Sigurdsson or rooney would play if we signed a striker a winger and barkley stayed.

We'd have much more control of games with barkley instead.

Rooney was the only signing in that position we needed out of the four we brought in (Rooney, Klaassan, Sig, Vlasic). £80m on the other three is a joke and should be reason enough for Walsh to give back whatever salary he has earned to date and told to make sure from here on in he treats the funds as if they were his own, as he told us he'd do in his quote when he joined.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: SANA_DR0 on December 27, 2017, 11:54:19 PM
cant believe i went to this., it was fucking grim.

seemed like we still had Koeman in charge... no attacking play at all,, until Niasse came on..

why oh why play Bolassie? if i was Vlasic or Lookman id be pissed.. 30% Bolassie starts while one of our best players pre Allerdyce doesnt even get into the team..


please be more expansive.
Title: Re: West Brom V Everton. Boxing day.
Post by: benny on December 28, 2017, 04:24:45 AM
Who said there was ?
                  dont take any notice of me mate i was pissed when i wrote that.