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Title: You do voodoo? He do
Post by: plowman2 on January 10, 2018, 04:29:47 AM
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/42630016

Speechless!
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Post by: WeimaranerBlues on January 10, 2018, 04:33:28 AM
yeah just seen this

wtf

Striker Romelu Lukaku decided to leave Everton after a "voodoo message" told him to join Chelsea, the Merseyside club's major shareholder has claimed.

The Belgium international, 24, eventually joined Manchester United for an initial £75m last summer.

Farhad Moshiri told a shareholders' meeting the player received the message "on a pilgrimage to Africa" having been set to sign a new deal at Everton.

"He had a voodoo and got the message he needs to go to Chelsea," said Moshiri.

Premier League champions Chelsea had bid for Lukaku, but he opted instead to join Jose Mourinho's Manchester United.

Last March Lukaku's agent, Mino Raiola, had claimed a new deal to remain at Everton was "99.9% done".

"We offered him a better deal than Chelsea and his agent came to Finch Farm to sign the contract," Moshiri told Everton's annual general meeting.

"Robert [Elstone, chief executive] was there, everything was in place, there were a few reporters outside," he added.

Moshiri said Lukaku then "called his mother" before the player revealed he had received the message telling him to join Chelsea.

Iranian billionaire Moshiri, who has put £150m of his own money into the Merseyside club to clear debts, said the Toffees offered the striker an "unbelievable" amount of money to stay.

"The issue with Romelu was not financial. As long as I am major shareholder, financial issues are irrelevant," he said.

"I wasted two summers to keep him. First summer with his agent, him and his family we managed to keep him. Last summer we offered him a better deal than Chelsea - whatever they offered we matched but he just didn't want to stay.

"If I tell you what we offered him you wouldn't believe it, but they offered him a better deal."

Lukaku spent time on holiday in Los Angeles last summer with his friend, Manchester United midfielder Paul Pogba, and Moshiri says it proved impossible to convince him to stay at Everton.

"I got close to Rom, I like the boy, he's a good boy, and I used all my charm to keep him and I flatly failed," he added.

"The issue was his brain had gone. He was in LA and he wouldn't come back."

So we did or we did not offer him a better deal?? to stay  makes not sense as he went to Manu not Chelsea ---need to stick some pins in his doll
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Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on January 10, 2018, 05:14:07 AM
Moshi madness. Love it. Heís such a nutty bloke.
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Post by: Tony Clifton on January 10, 2018, 05:29:25 AM
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"The issue was his brain had gone. He was in LA and he wouldn't come back."

lolol

To clear the deal thing up - we were matching Chelsea all the way, couldn't match Utd = Lukaku loves the cash over his "dream move".  Which will still be his "dream move" when he does end up back at Chelsea.
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Post by: Macca77 on January 10, 2018, 05:31:12 AM
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Post by: Ramjam on January 10, 2018, 06:10:23 AM
Lukakus mum is watching to many James Bond movies
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Post by: Ross on January 10, 2018, 06:41:23 AM
Well it makes more sense than our own manager telling him to leave I suppose.
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Post by: sam of the south on January 10, 2018, 07:10:33 AM
This is the only bit that mattered:

"The issue with Romelu was not financial. As long as I am major shareholder, financial issues are irrelevant"

Mad hearing the top man at Everton say that.

Mad 👌🏼
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Post by: Ravardo on January 10, 2018, 07:26:01 AM
Part of a good tune back in the day
ab_channel=-NuclearWastE3
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Post by: bluestevie on January 10, 2018, 07:27:19 AM
He's getting some shite for his comments at the AGM, particularly off that tit DaveK on Grand Old Team who was hoping he was pissed, even though he's tee total, and comparing him to Sam Hammam the ex Wimbledon and Cardiff owner for actually showing he gives a shit about pushing our club further unlike Kenwright
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Post by: BlueMaquis on January 10, 2018, 09:10:39 AM
Isn't voodoo an American thing? Why would a Belgian of African descent have any interest in it?
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Post by: bacon sarnie on January 10, 2018, 09:55:24 AM
Isn't voodoo an American thing? Why would a Belgian of African descent have any interest in it?

Haitian.

Bless you!
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Post by: blargins on January 10, 2018, 09:57:01 AM
Supposedly a Christian too. Oh well each to their own.
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Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on January 10, 2018, 02:26:25 PM
Part of a good tune back in the day

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Post by: Macca77 on January 10, 2018, 04:10:05 PM
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Post by: Lxxx on January 10, 2018, 04:21:52 PM
This is the only bit that mattered:

"The issue with Romelu was not financial. As long as I am major shareholder, financial issues are irrelevant"

Mad hearing the top man at Everton say that.

Mad 👌🏼

Call me a miserable bastard but I'd like him to be a bit more circumspect when he talks about our financial situation now. Selling clubs and agents have us in their crosshairs already, this won't do anything to stop us getting fleeced from here on in.
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Post by: sam of the south on January 10, 2018, 04:32:12 PM
Call me a miserable bastard but I'd like him to be a bit more circumspect when he talks about our financial situation now. Selling clubs and agents have us in their crosshairs already, this won't do anything to stop us getting fleeced from here on in.

Yes, that did cross my mind once the initial excitement had died diwn
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Post by: Gash on January 10, 2018, 04:36:04 PM
Call me a miserable bastard but I'd like him to be a bit more circumspect when he talks about our financial situation now. Selling clubs and agents have us in their crosshairs already, this won't do anything to stop us getting fleeced from here on in.

It's up there with Martinez statement that we can 'compete against anyone in world football'. It's naive at best, we don't have a bottomless pit of money and paying over the odds for 'decent' players isn't sustainable, especially when they don't work out and we need to somehow get their huge salaries off the wage bill.
Title: Re: You do voodoo? He do
Post by: sam of the south on January 10, 2018, 04:51:07 PM
It's up there with Martinez statement that we can 'compete against anyone in world football'. It's naive at best, we don't have a bottomless pit of money and paying over the odds for 'decent' players isn't sustainable, especially when they don't work out and we need to somehow get their huge salaries off the wage bill.

Yes, totally agree.

It is, however, nice to hear it initially, after years of "we'll gooo with hwhat we've got"
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Post by: BlueMaquis on January 10, 2018, 05:17:22 PM
Call me a miserable bastard but I'd like him to be a bit more circumspect when he talks about our financial situation now. Selling clubs and agents have us in their crosshairs already, this won't do anything to stop us getting fleeced from here on in.

It could work both ways though. We could find certain agents and players taking more of an interest in us at least initially because they know we will be able to satisfy their financial demands.
Title: Re: You do voodoo? He do
Post by: blue1948 on January 10, 2018, 05:40:19 PM
Isn't voodoo an American thing? Why would a Belgian of African descent have any interest in it?
Sometimes it is best to say nothing .

https://listverse.com/2013/12/11/10-things-you-didnt-know-about-voodoo/
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Post by: blue1948 on January 10, 2018, 05:41:58 PM
Call me a miserable bastard but I'd like him to be a bit more circumspect when he talks about our financial situation now. Selling clubs and agents have us in their crosshairs already, this won't do anything to stop us getting fleeced from here on in.
So you want him to be quiet ? isnt it him footing the inflated bill?
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Post by: Macca77 on January 10, 2018, 06:33:03 PM
https://twitter.com/MattHughesTimes/status/951067175728697344
Title: Re: You do voodoo? He do
Post by: BlueMaquis on January 10, 2018, 06:34:09 PM
Sometimes it is best to say nothing .

https://listverse.com/2013/12/11/10-things-you-didnt-know-about-voodoo/

Sometimes it is best to use accurate sources

http://www.univie.ac.at/Anglistik/webprojects/LiveMiss/Voodoo/chap1.htm
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Voodoo originated in the West Indies country of Haiti during the French Colonial Period
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Post by: Lxxx on January 10, 2018, 06:47:16 PM
I'm not sure whether I like the fact that our majority shareholder doesn't seem like a full shilling or not.
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Post by: TheRam on January 10, 2018, 06:48:47 PM
He's in big trouble if this isn't true.

After last night I'm starting to believe the rumours he's just a front for Usmanov.

For somebody so wealth he's isn't half naive.
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Post by: brap2 on January 10, 2018, 07:06:57 PM
This is the only bit that mattered:

"The issue with Romelu was not financial. As long as I am major shareholder, financial issues are irrelevant"

Mad hearing the top man at Everton say that.

Mad 👌🏼

Itís also bullshit.

What the fuck was he thinking of saying this voodoo shite? Personally really disappointed, looks to me like heís just trying to ingratiate himself further with fans by making Lukaku and his ma look like mongs.

Tbh I think Moshiri is a bit of a dickhead, and Iím not 100% convinced on his acumen for running a club either.
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Post by: Gash on January 10, 2018, 07:11:06 PM
I'm beginning to think he's an absolute hatstand.
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Post by: Django on January 10, 2018, 07:11:36 PM
Really feel like Moshiri running a football club is akin to giving a dinner jacket to a frog.

He's got no clue about how to behave and is making himself a laughing stock with comments like that. Even the Suarez comment he made just makes us look really small time imo.

Heavy how he just admitted he falls for Jim White 141'ing him to get info.
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Post by: Lxxx on January 10, 2018, 07:14:56 PM
He's just attempting to enjoy his 15 minutes of fame. He's been a bag man for the big boys and now this is his time to grab a bit of limelight. It's not working.
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Post by: blue1948 on January 10, 2018, 07:18:01 PM
Sometimes it is best to use accurate sources

http://www.univie.ac.at/Anglistik/webprojects/LiveMiss/Voodoo/chap1.htm
I don't think the origin has anything to do with Lukaku .The fact that he has reacted to it has nothing whatsoever to do with Haiti ,no more than any belief in a country where it didn't originate .
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Post by: blue1948 on January 10, 2018, 07:22:45 PM
I don't know if he is naive but the comments about him and his business acumen really are if not just stupid ,to imagine a man who is a self made billionaire ( We all get a leg up somewhere along the road) is not up to it beggars belief !! I have no idea what gets you lot to spout shite like that but for that I am out .
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Post by: TSGun on January 10, 2018, 07:23:20 PM
It could be seen as a bit over the top if viewed that way but isn't he really only putting to rest any thought that Lukaku didn't stay due to wage requirements?

There is naivety, people will analyse every word you say.
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Post by: Macca77 on January 10, 2018, 07:23:54 PM
Moshiri comes across as uncle nobhead.
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Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 10, 2018, 07:25:49 PM
https://twitter.com/MattHughesTimes/status/951067175728697344

Fuck him. Probably 99.9% not true but even with them odds sometimes the unexpected happens
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Post by: Jimmywhack on January 10, 2018, 07:26:26 PM
Fuck him. Probably 99.9% not true but even with them odds sometimes the unexpected happens
Could see that coming a mile off
Title: Re: You do voodoo? He do
Post by: Lxxx on January 10, 2018, 07:27:05 PM
I don't know if he is naive but the comments about him and his business acumen really are if not just stupid ,to imagine a man who is a self made billionaire ( We all get a leg up somewhere along the road) is not up to it beggars belief !! I have no idea what gets you lot to spout shite like that but for that I am out .

He got his stakes in companies worth over a billion by way of a gift from Usmanov did he not?
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Post by: gizzblue on January 10, 2018, 07:27:44 PM
More proof ....He's a kid with an ant farm and magnifying glass ...wondering why it's all burning .
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Post by: sam of the south on January 10, 2018, 07:28:06 PM
Could see that coming a mile off

Yeah, I was 99.9% certain a comment like that would happen.

Etc.
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Post by: sam of the south on January 10, 2018, 07:30:32 PM
Itís also bullshit.

What the fuck was he thinking of saying this voodoo shite? Personally really disappointed, looks to me like heís just trying to ingratiate himself further with fans by making Lukaku and his ma look like mongs.

Tbh I think Moshiri is a bit of a dickhead, and Iím not 100% convinced on his acumen for running a club either.

Yes, the voodoo comment is crazy.

It's what you'd expect someone like Joe Kinnear to say about a black player who didn't want to play for him anymore.
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Post by: charlatan on January 10, 2018, 07:31:26 PM
Certainly our transfer dealings since he arrived makes him appear to not have a clue
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Post by: Gash on January 10, 2018, 08:20:34 PM
I don't know if he is naive but the comments about him and his business acumen really are if not just stupid ,to imagine a man who is a self made billionaire ( We all get a leg up somewhere along the road) is not up to it beggars belief !! I have no idea what gets you lot to spout shite like that but for that I am out .

I don't think anyone's question his business acumen, more how he conducts himself and some of the things that come out his mouth. However, he wouldn't be the first successful business man to see a football club as a bit of an ego trip and go against everything he's learned in "normal" business and make a complete mess of it. The recent history in the Premier League and Championship is full of wealthy, self made business people who have taken clubs to the brink of ruin. I'm not saying that's what Moshiri is doing here but it's stupid to suggest that just because he's been successful outside of football automatically means that he will do here as well.
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Post by: Bluedylan on January 10, 2018, 08:37:09 PM
Fuck Lukaku with his snooty 'representative's statement' as well. Dickhead.
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Post by: Lxxx on January 10, 2018, 08:43:11 PM
I think the only saving grace on this one is that he's a successful accountant by trade, used to working with some of the largest companies in the world, and therefore you would think his appreciation of making the numbers work would be his primary concern. The rest is all fluff, embarrassing fluff mind, but stuff you hope can be addressed by some sensible words in his ear and a professional PR/Comms team in place.
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Post by: Mick 1995 on January 10, 2018, 08:45:03 PM
Stinging retort from the "representative":

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Romelu is very catholic and voodoo is not part of his life or his beliefs.
He simply had no faith in Everton and no confidence in Mr Moshiri's project. That is why he did not want to sign on any condition.
He wanted to make the next step in his career and wanted the security to be able to leave.
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Post by: Django on January 10, 2018, 08:57:12 PM
Stinging retort from the "representative":


Lukaku is just a complete nob. The way he's behaved at United, putting out stories about how he's falling out with Pogba because he isn't standing up for him being put out wide does give me some confidence that he's probably said it's been a vision that he has to sign for Chelsea. Moshiri has probably reiterated that with a bit of added racism for good measure.
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Post by: sam of the south on January 10, 2018, 09:10:16 PM
Lukaku is just a complete nob. The way he's behaved at United, putting out stories about how he's falling out with Pogba because he isn't standing up for him being put out wide does give me some confidence that he's probably said it's been a vision that he has to sign for Chelsea. Moshiri has probably reiterated that with a bit of added racism for good measure.

Yes, he is a tool alright.

However, what an absolute gift this could be for The Shite; in a week where their argument (along with there is no footage) in favour of Firmino not being racist is 'he's black as well' (yes, I sanitised their actual phrasing) our non-white Mr.Big also says something that if it came out of the mouth of a white bloke would look extremely dodgy indeed.

Oh the shit irony of it all.
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Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 10, 2018, 09:13:32 PM
Shamanism is still popular in Africa despite Christianity . As someone pointed out it is Haitian but its origins are African . Its no big deal really but in todays world I suppose Mosh should be put to death .
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Post by: TheRam on January 10, 2018, 09:17:49 PM
This is the maddest season we've ever had.
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Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 10, 2018, 09:41:49 PM
Stinging retort from the "representative":


I don't think lukaku and his agent understand percentages then. Well either that or they are liars
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Post by: Jimmywhack on January 10, 2018, 10:15:32 PM
Can someone fit moshiri with a muzzle
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Post by: toffee_scot on January 11, 2018, 02:44:26 AM
Next time Man Utd come to Goodison:

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Post by: eugene on January 11, 2018, 02:57:05 AM
It's up there with Martinez statement that we can 'compete against anyone in world football'. It's naive at best, we don't have a bottomless pit of money and paying over the odds for 'decent' players isn't sustainable, especially when they don't work out and we need to somehow get their huge salaries off the wage bill.
We donít have it the Mosh may not but his mate lurking in the shadows of bramley moor is fuckin brewsted
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Post by: Ramjam on January 11, 2018, 08:10:37 AM
Next time Man Utd come to Goodison:


Or maybe this one (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180111/2ab1e32816780f1eedcf7fc8c5f9d741.jpg)
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Post by: blue1948 on January 11, 2018, 11:08:06 AM
I don't think anyone's question his business acumen, more how he conducts himself and some of the things that come out his mouth. However, he wouldn't be the first successful business man to see a football club as a bit of an ego trip and go against everything he's learned in "normal" business and make a complete mess of it. The recent history in the Premier League and Championship is full of wealthy, self made business people who have taken clubs to the brink of ruin. I'm not saying that's what Moshiri is doing here but it's stupid to suggest that just because he's been successful outside of football automatically means that he will do here as well.
I think you have only confirmed what I was trying to say ,I never said he would automatically succeed that was only your interpretation .All I meant was he is not a business fool ,if he was given a "gift " then you can rest assured it was not for nothing. Do I like the things he says -NO -but that is not the point ,the point is whether he is what we need at the moment and whether he is a front for Usmanov .That in itself is laughable the man likes to be the centre of attention ,had the chance to sell his shares and still he hasn't made a move ,so what exactly do you think ?
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Post by: Lxxx on January 11, 2018, 03:48:08 PM
Next time Man Utd come to Goodison:


An absolute tune. Too many drugs taken listening to this song I'm surprised I can recollect it.
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Post by: formerKHL on January 11, 2018, 05:23:18 PM
I now wish lukaku had used more of his "magic" when playing for us.....he may not have wanted to leave then...
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Post by: gizzblue on January 11, 2018, 07:26:44 PM
I now wish lukaku had used more of his "magic" when playing for us.....he may not have wanted to leave then...
Not to mention breach of contract for refusing to return from his 'love in' with Pogba.
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Post by: Ramjam on January 12, 2018, 04:14:51 AM
Not to mention breach of contract for refusing to return from his 'love in' with Pogba.

His last tarot card reading told him heíd find love in the USA, and there you have it the Pogba relationship flourished
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Post by: gizzblue on January 12, 2018, 04:39:01 AM
His last tarot card reading told him he'd find love in the USA, and there you have it the Pogba relationship flourished
Allegedly on the rocks now though as Pogba won't side with him on the mourinho front 😅
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Post by: BlueMaquis on January 12, 2018, 07:12:34 AM
Is it really defaming someone to say they practice voodoo anyway? Footballers aren't exactly known for their intelligence so it's hardly going to bring him down in the eyes of most people.