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Title: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: therealdunc on January 18, 2018, 08:59:04 PM
Would any of our squad get into Manchester Cityís starting 11?
No

Would any of our squad get into Manchester Unitedís starting 11?
No

Would any of our squad get into Liverpoolís starting 11?
No

Would any of our squad get into Chelseaís starting 11?
No

Would any of our squad get into Tottenhamís starting 11?
No

Would any of our squad get into Arsenalís starting 11?
Maybe Coleman, no one else.


We have a very long way to go

We have lots of average journeymen players on big wages

7th place after our start is the very best we can hope for, but Koeman May have cost us to many points to close the gap on the likes of Burnley and Leicester.

Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: formerKHL on January 18, 2018, 09:03:09 PM
subjective post that because the inference is that everton players are never good enough to make the top 6 teams...

yet lukaku and Barkeley were part of this original squad and yet they've gone to top 6 clubs...

pushing the limit a bit so was Fellaini....etc etc etc...
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: therealdunc on January 18, 2018, 09:07:16 PM
Lukaku yes but he has gone

He is not in the current squad

I did say current squad

Our best players are too old or couldn't get enough starts for the big clubs

Accept the facts, we deserve to be where we are

And yet some fans expect Allardyce to turn us into world beaters with this squad of journeymen

If you keep buying United, Arsenal and Tottenham reserves or failures, donít be suprised if you consistently finish beneath them
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Lxxx on January 18, 2018, 09:08:35 PM
Yawn.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: therealdunc on January 18, 2018, 09:09:54 PM
Yawn.

Facts are a real inconvenience in this era of fake news
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Mick 1995 on January 18, 2018, 09:12:41 PM
What you reckon on DCL, Lookman, Keane, Davies, Holgate, Vlasic, Onyekuru being good enough for one of the teams in 18 months time?
What about Pickford? reckon Liverpool wouldnt cut their left bollocks off for him? yet he's shipping a shit load of goals at the moment isn't he?
Was Rooney not getting a game for United not 8 months ago?

I'm not sure what your actual point is here. that we'r enot good enough to finish in the top 6?
Nobody is going to argue with you really.

That 7th is the best we can hope for?
With Allardyce's tactical innovation of trying to score goals without having a shot i would suggest even 7th is out of reach.
 
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: therealdunc on January 18, 2018, 09:15:52 PM
As usual itís all big sams fault

My point is simple - the squad is average, why people expect miracles against the top teams like Chelsea, United, Liverpool and spurs in recent weeks is beyond me.

Some people simply ignorant of reality and display real hatred for one of the games best managers.

Please get behind the club or find another one

We are Everton
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Goaljira on January 18, 2018, 09:15:59 PM
Would any of our squad get into Manchester Cityís starting 11?
No

Would any of our squad get into Manchester Unitedís starting 11?
No

Would any of our squad get into Liverpoolís starting 11?
No

Would any of our squad get into Chelseaís starting 11?
No

Would any of our squad get into Tottenhamís starting 11?
No

Would any of our squad get into Arsenalís starting 11?
Maybe Coleman, no one else.


We have a very long way to go

We have lots of average journeymen players on big wages

7th place after our start is the very best we can hope for, but Koeman May have cost us to many points to close the gap on the likes of Burnley and Leicester.

(http://www.hellonatureblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/CaptainObvious_SaluteAnimated.gif)
Captain Obvious salutes you for your un-paralleled level of observation.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: formerKHL on January 18, 2018, 09:17:11 PM
yes Lukaku was part of this current squad..as was Barkeley .......which is why I said the post is subjective...

now you've diversified onto "a blame the manager culture" ? and "everton fans expect.."

The basic point is like everything else in this world everything has a price.... what if for example Chelsea really fancy beningemi ?
spurs fancy davies ? city fancy Holgate?

how do you know they don't and wont make an offer for them at some stage in the future...

very subjective to try anticipate and predict the future
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 18, 2018, 09:18:51 PM
Ah this is a veiled Allardyce is great thread

Roger

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Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: therealdunc on January 18, 2018, 09:20:02 PM
Not sure why you keep rabbiting on about lukaku and Barkley

Neither are in the current squad

If I wrote this post back in June then you would have a point but itís Jan 18

I havenít anticipated the future
Once again I wrote this today Jan 18, not in 2 years time Jan 20.
I donít predict the future

Current squad, current ability, at this moment not 6 months ago and not in 2 years time!

But the squad as it stands is average at best.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: formerKHL on January 18, 2018, 09:30:07 PM
Not sure why you keep rabbiting on about lukaku and Barkley

Neither are in the current squad

If I wrote this post back in June then you would have a point but itís Jan 18

I havenít anticipated the future
Once again I wrote this today Jan 18, not in 2 years time Jan 20.
I donít predict the future

Current squad, current ability, at this moment not 6 months ago and not in 2 years time!

But the squad as it stands is average at best.

I'm rabbiting on about it because once again your facts are incorrect.....
and i'm asking how do you know that any of the "BIG 6" aren't CURRENTLY planning to buy any of our players ? Blowing your point, your trying to badly make, completely out of the water..

But hey you keep thinking these posts up and living in your world.....
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: TheRam on January 18, 2018, 09:31:35 PM
Turn it in TheRealSpunk
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Ross on January 18, 2018, 09:32:57 PM
Pickford gets into the Arsenal and Liverpool teams no danger and possibly the Spurs side.

Sigurdsson would get game time at the above as well and probably Gana, and if he was a youth player Holgate for any of the respective clubs above us heíd likely feature at times.

Thatís ignoring the fact Walcott and Rooney were regulars for top 6 teams last season as well.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: therealdunc on January 18, 2018, 09:33:10 PM
I'm rabbiting on about it because once again your facts are incorrect.....
and i'm asking how do you know that any of the "BIG 6" aren't CURRENTLY planning to buy any of our players ? Blowing your point, your trying to badly make, completely out of the water..

But hey you keep thinking these posts up and living in your world.....

No it hasnít
And not a single player of the current squad has come in for any links with any of the big 6.

Your really struggling here, and I donít like to see a fellow blue like this.

Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: therealdunc on January 18, 2018, 09:34:59 PM
Pickford gets into the Arsenal and Liverpool teams no danger and possibly the Spurs side.

Sigurdsson would get game time at the above as well and probably Gana, and if he was a youth player Holgate for any of the respective clubs above us heíd likely feature at times.

Thatís ignoring the fact Walcott and Rooney were regulars for top 6 teams last season as well.

Sigurdsson spurs reject

Gana wouldnít get into any of the top 6 teams

Pickford currently isnít good enough either
Same is true of Holgate

Rooney is past it and crap, Walcott an arsenal reserve and reject

Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: themilkycoffees on January 18, 2018, 09:38:23 PM
Sigurdsson spurs reject

Gana wouldnít get into any of the top 6 teams

Pickford currently isnít good enough either
Same is true of Holgate

Rooney is past it and crap, Walcott an arsenal reserve and reject

In your opinion. Pickford walks in at Arsenal and Liverpool. Gana would have a decent chance at a couple. Liverpool took Oxlade-Chamberlain, who wasn't an automatic starter for Arsenal and he's picked up and is playing well. Just because someone isn't getting a regular game doesn't necessarily mean they're a reject.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Audrey Horne on January 18, 2018, 09:39:43 PM
Facts are a real inconvenience in this era of fake news

Turn it in Donald.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: formerKHL on January 18, 2018, 09:41:09 PM
sad really....oh well never mind..
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Ross on January 18, 2018, 09:45:51 PM
Sigurdsson spurs reject

Gana wouldnít get into any of the top 6 teams

Pickford currently isnít good enough either
Same is true of Holgate

Rooney is past it and crap, Walcott an arsenal reserve and reject



How silly of me of course youíre right. Weíll be lucky to stay up with this championship squad choke full of international players.

Thank god for the rotund ones tactical acumen weíd surely be fucked without him and his sport scientologist acolytes.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Paddockoldie on January 18, 2018, 09:51:31 PM
Not sure why you keep rabbiting on about lukaku and Barkley

Neither are in the current squad

If I wrote this post back in June then you would have a point but itís Jan 18

I havenít anticipated the future
Once again I wrote this today Jan 18, not in 2 years time Jan 20.
I donít predict the future

Current squad, current ability, at this moment not 6 months ago and not in 2 years time!

But the squad as it stands is average at best.



Not quite sure of your point tbh. We've got some good players but just not a good team at the moment but that's possible to change.  You do actually support Everton don't you? I've heard Liverpool have got 2000 empty seats if you're not happy.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Macca77 on January 18, 2018, 09:56:12 PM
I'll take the bait,

Pickford would walk into the redshite side, they tried to buy him
Pickford would walk into the Arsenal side
Sigurdsson would get into the Spurs side, they also tried to buy him
A fully for Coleman would get into any of the current top 6 sides with the exception of City
Keane would get into the redshite side, they tried to buy him
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: therealdunc on January 18, 2018, 09:58:29 PM
Keane is terrible mate 
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Macca77 on January 18, 2018, 09:59:50 PM
Keane is terrible mate 

He not terrible, he's not great like, but didn't stop the redshite trying to buy him in the summer.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: formerKHL on January 18, 2018, 10:07:34 PM
ye but he wasn't in our squad then was he dunc.......
so it doesn't count does it dunc....

eh ? eh ?
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Mick 1995 on January 18, 2018, 10:16:07 PM
So far this thread has had Pickford and Keane denigrated.

I'm out, it's clear this lad knows the square root of fuck all about football.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Shogun on January 18, 2018, 10:18:27 PM
Coleman or Joe Gomez...
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: stirlingblue on January 18, 2018, 10:42:55 PM
As usual it's all big sams fault


As usual nothing is Allardyce's fault with you
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Lincs Toffee on January 18, 2018, 11:15:21 PM
Like @stirlingblue (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=907), why cant you admit that Allardyce is not the saviour of our team and is not getting the best out of our players, just like our previous managers efforts, we are not playing are best players in their best positions and playing games to our players strengths. We have what are and certainly I feel will be some great attacking players but he is just not getting a tune out of them. I am pretty sure any attacking minded manager would reap the benefits from the skill set our current players have, granted SA has/well did sort our defence, but again that has gone to shit again since he broke up the Holgate/Williams partnership. SA is just doing what he does best, saving and not promoting a team.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Polledreng on January 18, 2018, 11:16:20 PM
 I've always been impressed by the shites defenders and goalkeepers since Ray Clemmence
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 18, 2018, 11:42:44 PM
Think the problem isn't the bulk of our squad but more the lack of the genuine stars. We need a zaha or a marhez. We need to find a flair player or 2 that maybe the top sides would be interested in. Tosan is hopefully gonna prove to be a great signing so maybe him in the future
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: brap2 on January 19, 2018, 12:07:56 AM
Not a snowballs we get 7th bud.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: boothill on January 19, 2018, 12:10:41 AM
Would any of our squad get into Manchester Cityís starting 11?
No

Would any of our squad get into Manchester Unitedís starting 11?
No

Would any of our squad get into Liverpoolís starting 11?
No

Would any of our squad get into Chelseaís starting 11?
No

Would any of our squad get into Tottenhamís starting 11?
No

Would any of our squad get into Arsenalís starting 11?
i see a pattern emerging here, is it the word OF ?
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Lxxx on January 19, 2018, 12:11:26 AM
We should be getting 7th from here on in. In fact it's a huge failure by Allardyce if we don't. He moaned about his options up top so he's been allowed to spend the best part of £50m to solve it and we're already in 9th, he'll hardly have to tear up trees to get there.

In fact he should expect the sack if we don't.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: UnsyisaRhino on January 19, 2018, 12:13:44 AM
Think the problem isn't the bulk of our squad but more the lack of the genuine stars. We need a zaha or a marhez. We need to find a flair player or 2 that maybe the top sides would be interested in. Tosan is hopefully gonna prove to be a great signing so maybe him in the future

This, we have lots of solid players without having any standout individuals.

There is nobody who makes things happen, or who as an individual has a major impact on the game offensively.

Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: boothill on January 19, 2018, 12:15:15 AM


Some people simply ignorant of reality and display real hatred for one of the games best managers.

Please get behind the club or find another one

We are Everton
[/quote]

like you did with unsworth ? go and lay down on the wet patch ya girl.   hypocrite
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: boothill on January 19, 2018, 12:17:52 AM
Turn it in TheRealSpunk
you thief ram
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: boothill on January 19, 2018, 12:20:42 AM
How silly of me of course youíre right. Weíll be lucky to stay up with this championship squad choke full of international players.

Thank god for the rotund ones tactical acumen weíd surely be fucked without him and his sport scientologist acolytes.
we gettin tom cruise before the window shuts rossy la ?
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Ross on January 19, 2018, 12:25:37 AM
we gettin tom cruise before the window shuts rossy la ?

....this game plan will self destruct as soon as we go one nil down
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Gash on January 19, 2018, 12:53:07 AM
We have lots of average journeymen players on big wages

Fits in nicely with our average, journeyman manager on big wages.

And yet some fans expect Allardyce to turn us into world beaters with this squad of journeymen

No they don't.

As usual itís all big sams fault

It's funny, when he started with 4 wins and a draw he took all the credit, then when we start playing shite again it's suddenly the players fault. The "facts" as you like to go on about is that this squad should be doing far better than 4 shots on target in 5 games. The "facts" are this is history repeating itself with Allardyce. And don't quote his time at Bolton, that was over ten years ago since he played in sort of decent football.

My point is simple - the squad is average, why people expect miracles against the top teams like Chelsea, United, Liverpool and spurs in recent weeks is beyond me.

No they don't.

Please get behind the club or find another one

Everyone is entitled to an opinion so you can fuck off with constantly telling people to find another club just because their opinion doesn't fit in with your agenda.

Some people simply ignorant of reality and display real hatred for one of the games best managers.

 lolol

No wonder people think you're a WUM.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 19, 2018, 01:11:04 AM
Fits in nicely with our average, journeyman manager on big wages.

No they don't.

It's funny, when he started with 4 wins and a draw he took all the credit, then when we start playing shite again it's suddenly the players fault. The "facts" as you like to go on about is that this squad should be doing far better than 4 shots on target in 5 games. The "facts" are this is history repeating itself with Allardyce. And don't quote his time at Bolton, that was over ten years ago since he played in sort of decent football.

No they don't.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion so you can fuck off with constantly telling people to find another club just because their opinion doesn't fit in with your appropriate lack of respect .

 lolol

No wonder people think you're a WUM.
Well said that gash
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: GLewis on January 19, 2018, 01:23:34 AM
To be fair, the praise manager when good results and blame players when theyíre poor is consistent if you think that the players are useless.

As if theyíre useless the manager is doing well to get any positive results and therefore performance is not likely to be above natural level all the time.

Poor results are the mean for poor players.

The level of managerial praise / criticism is going to be based on how good / bad you think the players are.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: di_guyo on January 19, 2018, 02:33:20 AM
Pickford is better than Mignolet
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Jamokachi on January 19, 2018, 04:46:18 AM
Absolute myth that this squad is average, peddled by apologists of the succession of useless managers. We have very good players, being coached to play shite football.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on January 19, 2018, 05:09:50 AM
Canít wait until Allardyce fucks off.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: boothill on January 19, 2018, 05:25:13 AM
Pickford is better than Mignolet
better than cech too, on a par with lloris, courtois no great shakes either
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Ramjam on January 19, 2018, 05:54:36 AM
Can't wait until Allardyce fucks off.

Donít you think thereís a manager in there somewhere
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Redartin on January 19, 2018, 06:00:12 AM
Donít you think thereís a manager in there somewhere

Only if he ate one.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Ramjam on January 19, 2018, 06:07:00 AM
Only if he ate one.

Lol 🤣🤣
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: TheRam on January 19, 2018, 02:21:48 PM
Pickford gets in the Spurs, Liverpool and Arsenal team.

So does gana

So does Coleman.

Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Mick 1995 on January 19, 2018, 02:25:53 PM
better than cech too, on a par with lloris, courtois no great shakes either

The echo definitely reads this forum doesn't it?:

https://twitter.com/LivEchoEFC/status/954264386469748736

Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Lxxx on January 19, 2018, 03:05:21 PM
Absolute myth that this squad is average, peddled by apologists of the succession of useless managers. We have very good players, being coached to play shite football.

Spot on. Average is Huddersfield. We're on a different level to the quality they have but for some reason motivation isn't there to bust a gut, pass and move and generally do what they're paid to do
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Macca77 on January 19, 2018, 03:39:56 PM
Absolute myth that this squad is average, peddled by apologists of the succession of useless managers. We have very good players, being coached to play shite football.

100% this


Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: montanatoffeefan on January 19, 2018, 05:48:59 PM
I miss the days when we weren't quite good enough for just the Top 4.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Tofifee on January 19, 2018, 05:51:32 PM
Rubbish

Pickford EASILY gets in the shites team
Coleman starts for all of them too

BS thread
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: therealdunc on January 19, 2018, 05:57:27 PM
Absolute myth that this squad is average, peddled by apologists of the succession of useless managers. We have very good players, being coached to play shite football.

Where are all these very good players hiding?
Havenít seen any since Lukaku and Stones left or Coleman was injured.

Please do tell
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: therealdunc on January 19, 2018, 05:58:15 PM
Spot on. Average is Huddersfield. We're on a different level to the quality they have but for some reason motivation isn't there to bust a gut, pass and move and generally do what they're paid to do

Huddersfield are below average
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Lxxx on January 19, 2018, 06:25:54 PM
Huddersfield are below average

Exactly, and there are only three points difference between the two. The issue isn't the quality of player but the coaching, tactics and motivation levels.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Shogun on January 19, 2018, 06:40:21 PM
The things is top six players are made to look better because they're managed by top managers.

Spurs have a lot of good players but you can't tell me Pochettino isn't a big reason for that.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: BlueWool on January 19, 2018, 09:27:53 PM
I donít blame Sam for us being shit. I donít want him here because heís a cunt whoís prefered way to play football pisses me off.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: GLewis on January 19, 2018, 10:29:54 PM
The things is top six players are made to look better because they're managed by top managers.

Spurs have a lot of good players but you can't tell me Pochettino isn't a big reason for that.

Plus some will be better because they play with better players / the teams are always more confident because they generally win.

Looking at ours this season is bound to draw unfavourable comparisons.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: formerKHL on January 20, 2018, 12:30:16 AM
Oh look the real dunc....
One of our players going to top 7 team that only a couple of weeks ago were a top 6 team....

Blows your theory out the door a bit donít it.....

Like a said never try predicting the future..... you only end up looking stupid...
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: therealdunc on January 20, 2018, 12:31:19 AM
Oh look the real dunc....
One of our players going to top 7 team that only a couple of weeks ago were a top 6 team....

Blows your theory out the door a bit donít it.....

Like a said never try predicting the future..... you only end up looking stupid...
lolol
Please relax, itís friday, enjoy your weekend

And get behind the club

I said current squad

Current top 6

But hey, your living in the past, faircplay to you, your really desperate to get the egg of your face

Be good to meet up in the taxi club tomorrow and enjoy a beer
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: formerKHL on January 20, 2018, 12:35:25 AM
Oh right so Lennon wasnít in the current sqaud and 3 weeks isnít current ok ....

Iíll be on the monse.....
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: therealdunc on January 20, 2018, 12:36:07 AM
CURRENT squad

CURRENT top 6

See my original post and please stop living in the past
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on January 20, 2018, 12:38:33 AM
This thread is insane.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: formerKHL on January 20, 2018, 12:40:05 AM
CURRENT squad

CURRENT top 6

See my original post and please stop living in the past

What the original post that was posted a couple of days ago.....in the past
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: therealdunc on January 20, 2018, 12:41:02 AM
Yes a couple of days ago, not 3 weeks ago

Please keep up and stick to the facts
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: formerKHL on January 20, 2018, 12:44:26 AM
The players have had months if not years at the club to prove themselves
Your post from the other thread .....whose living in the past now?

Or is it a case Iíll post bollocks to try make my argument look good.....when it suits...
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: therealdunc on January 20, 2018, 01:23:36 AM
Yes they have had months and years to prove themselves

What is your point?
Mthey hsve proven themselves pretty average

Molease stick to the topic and stop trying to change it

Look mate, your a fellow blue, Iím not gonna bury you over this episode.
You can learn from it and come back stronger on the next thread.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: bluestevie on January 20, 2018, 01:29:33 AM
This thread is insane.

It was started by therealdunce what did you expect?
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: gizzblue on January 20, 2018, 02:25:54 AM
Can i just ask.
..you say our players are not top six players(aside the top six players we've bought )...oh and the ones bid for by the top six clubs ,not to mention those already mentioned .

Would you say our manager is a top six manager or a bottom four manager ?.

Sticking with the facts of course, I'm sure you would suprise yourself .
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 20, 2018, 02:27:51 AM
Cam i just ask.
..you say our players are not top six players(aside the top six players we've bought )...oh and the ones bid for by the top six clubs ,not to mention those already mentioned .

Would you say our manager is a top six manager or a bottom four manager ?.

Sticking with the facts of course, I'm sure you would suprise yourself .
It's the change over pal, @bogie will reply in ten mins
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: gizzblue on January 20, 2018, 02:29:25 AM
It's the change over pal, @bogie will reply in ten mins
Times like this I miss @realist's happy outlook 😅😅
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: therealdunc on January 21, 2018, 12:53:04 AM
Not a single player today in a blue shirt who would get into the current top 6 teams.

We have a long way to go
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: gizzblue on January 21, 2018, 01:05:11 AM
Not a single player today in a blue shirt who would get into the current top 6 teams.

We have a long way to go
But The manager is a world beater😅😅
The best Woods for the trees statement I've ever seen on here
😅😅.
Ffs sake is that you Sammy Lee...he's got the job enough is enough.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Macca77 on January 21, 2018, 01:07:31 AM
Not a single player today in a blue shirt who would get into the current top 6 teams.

We have a long way to go

This manager has made them worse, Fact
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: TheTone on January 21, 2018, 01:08:02 AM
Not a single player today in a blue shirt who would get into the current top 6 championship teams.

We have a long way to go

Fixed
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: bogie on January 22, 2018, 05:32:23 AM
Pickford gets into the Arsenal and Liverpool teams no danger and possibly the Spurs side.

Sigurdsson would get game time at the above as well and probably Gana, and if he was a youth player Holgate for any of the respective clubs above us he’d likely feature at times.

That’s ignoring the fact Walcott and Rooney were regulars for top 6 teams last season as well.

Pickford look if we had not paid what we did for him he would not have played in a lot of games this year
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Shogun on January 22, 2018, 05:34:02 AM
The only annoyance I have with Pickford is he's stopped doing those boss sliced kicks since Allardyce came in and has instead decided to start booting the ball aimlessly out of play.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Bluedylan on January 22, 2018, 05:41:08 AM
The only annoyance I have with Pickford is he's stopped doing those boss sliced kicks since Allardyce came in and has instead decided to start booting the ball aimlessly out of play.

My annoyance with Pickford is his willingness to follow Allardyce's instructions. Pass the ball to a centre half or a full back FFS.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Ross on January 22, 2018, 05:57:11 AM
Pickford look if we had not paid what we did for him he would not have played in a lot of games this year


Youíve already stated your opinion on Pickford earlier in the thread no need to change accounts to reaffirm it it was silly enough the first time and nobody bite then either.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: bogie on January 22, 2018, 06:11:34 AM
My annoyance with Pickford is his willingness to follow Allardyce's instructions. Pass the ball to a centre half or a full back FFS.

my main one is how many times he is picking the ball out , that's a bad habbit to get into
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: bogie on January 22, 2018, 06:12:17 AM
You’ve already stated your opinion on Pickford earlier in the thread no need to change accounts to reaffirm it it was silly enough the first time and nobody bite then either.

ok give me a clue what the fuck you are on about
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Bluedylan on January 22, 2018, 06:13:37 AM
my main one is how many times he is picking the ball out , that's a bad habbit to get into

That'll happen when you give teams like West Brom 15-20 shots at your goal (at home!).
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: bogie on January 22, 2018, 06:16:40 AM
That'll happen when you give teams like West Brom 15-20 shots at your goal (at home!).

and Van dickheads goal what about that one

spurs 1st goal was it

don't think for 1 min he is a top keeper he is not he could be and that is why we got him
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: bogie on January 22, 2018, 06:19:25 AM
My annoyance with Pickford is his willingness to follow Allardyce's instructions. Pass the ball to a centre half or a full back FFS.

and before he was at the club

get of the bandwagon and think for yourself
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: bogie on January 22, 2018, 06:20:17 AM
That'll happen when you give teams like West Brom 15-20 shots at your goal (at home!).

you counting the replays
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on January 22, 2018, 01:14:02 PM
Pickford look if we had not paid what we did for him he would not have played in a lot of games this year


Haha. Good one.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Mick 1995 on January 22, 2018, 02:45:44 PM
Not a single player today in a blue shirt who would get into the current top 6 teams.

We have a long way to go

So you're telling me Sam has just wasted £50m of our money?
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Macca77 on January 22, 2018, 02:47:36 PM
Wum's just love repeating themselves don't they, they're running out of material.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Lxxx on January 22, 2018, 03:22:19 PM
Not a single player today in a blue shirt who would get into the current top 6 teams.

We have a long way to go

Such a nonsensical argument.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: bogie on January 22, 2018, 05:00:38 PM
Haha. Good one.

Haha even better one



Competition


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


Total 17/18:  32 - - - - 51 8 2.880'

Premier League Premier League 24 - - - - 39 6
Europa League Europa League 3 - - - - 7
FA Cup FA Cup 1 - - - - 2
EFL Cup EFL Cup 1 - - - - 2

6 shutouts

you cant look past it if some are going to keep on posting he is great and all that you also need someone to tell you juts how great he is not just yet

now goal keeper stats are not everything Joel last year for about a 20 game run was by stats the best in the league and by stats this year he will never get a game

there is not a small gap between is and can be

at Sunderland he was a can be
now he is at Everton he,s an is ?
well the stats say he is still a can be along with anyone without the ross glasses

( to them going to get on my back about Pickford go back and read )
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Macca77 on January 22, 2018, 05:03:01 PM
An again in English please?
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Mick 1995 on January 22, 2018, 05:21:46 PM
An again in English please?

I think he is somehow trying to tie the stat of conceding goals to the ability of a keeper.

If so he is sufficiently wrong to just ignore till he goes away.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Macca77 on January 22, 2018, 05:33:42 PM
Goalkeeper in conceding goals shocker
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: gizzblue on January 22, 2018, 06:22:00 PM
Fuck sake put any world class keeper behind our shit defence and they will all pick the ball out the net just as much .
Fuck sake some are blind to their cause.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: SANA_DR0 on January 22, 2018, 06:31:25 PM
As usual itís all big sams fault

My point is simple - the squad is average, why people expect miracles against the top teams like Chelsea, United, Liverpool and spurs in recent weeks is beyond me.

Some people simply ignorant of reality and display real hatred for one of the games best managers.

Please get behind the club or find another one

We are Everton

If we had a decent manager, who knew tactics, how to implment players into formations that suit the style of the players, while offering attacking and defensive stability. a manager who wasnt anti football.

If we had a manager who knew how to develop players and mold them ala Pep. or even Benitez.. then there woud be ess Evertonians feeling how they do, Our squad is decent, lulz at the Journeymen comment.. who of our players are Journey men? do you class being at your third club a Journeymen? do you class the youngsters as Journeymen?

its so obvious to see your tilted view point, but you refuse to see it is Sams fault. a manager with higher proven pedigree would take us up to where we where last season.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on January 22, 2018, 08:54:35 PM
An again in English please?

Youíre barking up the wrong tree if youíre after a readable post from this guy. Itís best to glance at it and try to get the gist of it.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: bogie on January 22, 2018, 11:10:27 PM
You’re barking up the wrong tree if you’re after a readable post from this guy. It’s best to glance at it and try to get the gist of it.

asshole

there can you read that
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Mick 1995 on January 22, 2018, 11:11:57 PM
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Edit.
Link is fucking up.
But Pickford has won England's u21 player of the year award
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Bob Sacamano on January 22, 2018, 11:13:25 PM
asshole

there can you read that

*theyíeir
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: bogie on January 22, 2018, 11:13:59 PM
An again in English please?

would not matter it is something you don't want to here or read so you will put the blinkers on
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: bogie on January 22, 2018, 11:14:28 PM
*they’eir

lol what
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: bogie on January 22, 2018, 11:17:07 PM
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Edit.
Link is fucking up.
But Pickford has won England's u21 player of the year award

good but tell how many u21,s get to play in the league
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: bogie on January 22, 2018, 11:19:05 PM
Fuck sake put any world class keeper behind our shit defence and they will all pick the ball out the net just as much .
Fuck sake some are blind to their cause.

100% with this but I will not sit here and be told he is world class like some are getting on like he has a long way to go
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Mick 1995 on January 22, 2018, 11:19:51 PM
I none cause they must all be shit
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Audrey Horne on January 22, 2018, 11:29:10 PM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/955486847895003141
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: BlueForYou on January 22, 2018, 11:34:13 PM
England's number one goalkeeper
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: bogie on January 22, 2018, 11:37:56 PM

point made
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: TheRam on January 22, 2018, 11:38:35 PM

point made

Got any other examples of him costing us a goal this season?

Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: BlueForYou on January 22, 2018, 11:42:30 PM
Error of judgement
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: bogie on January 22, 2018, 11:43:09 PM
Got any other examples of him costing us a goal this season?



so you agree he was in that game

now we are getting somewhere

at no point this year has he been the best in the league Joel was last year and we murdered him every week on here
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Heisenberg on January 22, 2018, 11:43:40 PM

point made

Point not made. If he stays on his line its still a goal. If its headed in his direction he probably punches it. If Niasse stayed on his post it both potential situations, it's not goal.  Try again
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: bogie on January 22, 2018, 11:44:19 PM
Error of judgement

sugar coat all you want
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: BlueForYou on January 22, 2018, 11:44:59 PM
No sweetener needed

Name a better English goalkeeper this season
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: bogie on January 22, 2018, 11:46:34 PM
Point not made. If he stays on his line its still a goal. If its headed in his direction he probably punches it. If Niasse stayed on his post it both potential situations, it's not goal.  Try again

why is he going behind the player that he can see to clear it if van dick misses it
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: bogie on January 22, 2018, 11:48:23 PM
No sweetener needed

Name a better English goalkeeper this season

well if your going to go like that why not go the whole hog
name a better English goalkeeper playing for Everton this season
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Trowel on January 22, 2018, 11:56:26 PM
at no point this year has he been the best in the league Joel was last year and we murdered him every week on here
It's either my misunderstanding your point or the lack of punctuation making the sentence hard to read... but you appear to have suggested Joel was the best goalkeeper in the league.

...which league?
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: bogie on January 23, 2018, 12:02:48 AM
It's either my misunderstanding your point or the lack of punctuation making the sentence hard to read... but you appear to have suggested Joel was the best goalkeeper in the league.

...which league?

here ........ ,,,,,,,,, """""""""" you go put them where the sun don't shine

its is a know fact that attacking someone grammar just shows them and everyone reading that your a window licking cunt
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: TheRam on January 23, 2018, 12:05:47 AM
here ........ ,,,,,,,,, """""""""" you go put them where the sun don't shine

its is a know fact that attacking someone grammar just shows them and everyone reading that your a window licking cunt

That's nice.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Mick 1995 on January 23, 2018, 12:11:33 AM
here ........ ,,,,,,,,, """""""""" you go put them where the sun don't shine

its is a know fact that attacking someone grammar just shows them and everyone reading that your a window licking cunt
God, you're dense.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Trowel on January 23, 2018, 12:14:39 AM
I tried not to mention punctuation, but I genuinely thought you'd forgotten to spell check, resulting in a sentence where you not only suggested Joel was a Premier League standard goalkeeper, but also that he was... the best?
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: bogie on January 23, 2018, 12:17:48 AM
It's either my misunderstanding your point or the lack of punctuation making the sentence hard to read... but you appear to have suggested Joel was the best goalkeeper in the league.

...which league?

are you sure your an Everton fan
what league do you think our goalkeeper was playing in last year
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: bogie on January 23, 2018, 12:21:03 AM
I tried not to mention punctuation, but I genuinely thought you'd forgotten to spell check, resulting in a sentence where you not only suggested Joel was a Premier League standard goalkeeper, but also that he was... the best?

and on stats he was over 20 games last year any Everton Fan can tell you that , but you might have might not have seen it if you were looking  for spelling and punctuation to be "right "
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: bogie on January 23, 2018, 12:23:45 AM
That's nice.

no its not but I will not just sit here like a wallflower
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: BlueForYou on January 23, 2018, 12:44:50 AM
England's number one goalkeeper, petal
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: bluestevie on January 23, 2018, 02:34:59 AM
Gotta love a poster meltdown, especially when they are badly in the wrong
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Macca77 on January 23, 2018, 02:44:07 AM
So hes been voted Englands under 21 player of the year and yet some still think he wouldnt get into a top 6 side.

The force is strong with these WUMS
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Bally on January 23, 2018, 03:06:20 AM


here ........ ,,,,,,,,, """""""""" you go put them where the sun don't shine

its is a know fact that attacking someone grammar just shows them and everyone reading that your a window licking cunt
See now, this is your one and only warning regarding the latter part of your post.
Say anything like that again and you will be banned.

Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: boothill on January 23, 2018, 03:35:24 AM
no its not but I will not just sit here like a wallflower
Whats up rose ?
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: bogie on January 23, 2018, 03:58:52 AM
See now, this is your one and only warning regarding the latter part of your post.
Say anything like that again and you will be banned.



fuck you to
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 23, 2018, 03:59:52 AM
fuck you to
Ha ha fucking hell lad.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: bogie on January 23, 2018, 04:01:42 AM
Ha ha fucking hell lad.

like it was not going to happen anyway jimmy ,come on lad even you could see that was coming
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 23, 2018, 04:10:21 AM
like it was not going to happen anyway jimmy ,come on lad even you could see that was coming
Not worth going for the ban like
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Lxxx on January 23, 2018, 04:16:58 AM
Safe to come back in here yet?
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Redartin on January 23, 2018, 04:46:31 AM
Safe to come back in here yet?
Yeah it's all good, Swansea won.
Title: Re: Top 6 clubs?
Post by: Bally on January 23, 2018, 12:28:47 PM
fuck you to
Tit