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Title: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Everton News on January 21, 2018, 04:48:47 PM
Watford blame Everton for Silva decline

Watford have sacked manager Marco Silva and placed direct blame for the downturn in results on Everton's approach late last year for the Portuguese manager.

Source: Watford blame Everton for Silva decline (https://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2018/01/watford-blame-everton-silva-decline/)
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: BlueForYou on January 21, 2018, 04:52:31 PM
Silva for Southampton?

They've gone into decline since Koeman left!
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: gizzblue on January 21, 2018, 04:53:39 PM
Sign him up ...as I said on another thread cheaper sacking Sam than buying Silvas contract out.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Macca77 on January 21, 2018, 04:54:51 PM
Bless
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Thornton_19 on January 21, 2018, 04:56:26 PM
Hope this will be on our Season review dvd. As it's my highlight so far.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 21, 2018, 04:58:23 PM
Fair play to us like. First time I've seen a club not only fuck their own season up but also fuck up another clubs season.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: BlueMaquis on January 21, 2018, 05:07:53 PM
It's true, I heard that Moshiri cast a voodoo spell on Silva after he turned us down.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: velimski on January 21, 2018, 05:12:50 PM
What a fucking palaver.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Toffee1 on January 21, 2018, 05:20:52 PM
Dyche, Zola, Sannino, Junyent, McKinlay, Jokanovic, Flores and Mazzarri, the previous managers that they have sacked, who will they blame for that?

What next from them, will they want VAR to be used to judge if Andy Gray's goal in the 84 cup final was a foul?

Hopefully, Watford board's dummy has not flown to far from the pram.

While we are at it - stop using the theme to Z Cars as the players are coming out, we used it first.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: SANA_DR0 on January 21, 2018, 05:24:26 PM
the universe works in mysterious ways...

I dont think Sam will last til the end of March, and i dont see him(allardyce) improving things
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Juanito on January 21, 2018, 05:26:06 PM
Need to sack big Sam now and bring Silva in
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: TheTone on January 21, 2018, 05:26:54 PM
what a shower of cunts running Watford

hahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Mayor Farnum on January 21, 2018, 05:28:27 PM
There is an element of truth in their statement. They correctly called our approach 'unwarranted'. There is no justification why we would have considered him after two minutes in the league.

Although this sounds like them trying to palm him off on us to save themselves a few quid.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Brownie20 on January 21, 2018, 05:29:22 PM
So does anyone still want him?
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Goaljira on January 21, 2018, 05:30:31 PM
So does anyone still want him?

*Want* is a strong term, but i'd prefer him over Allardyce.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Ross on January 21, 2018, 05:33:16 PM
To be fair he looks an ideal fit.

He's a manager whoís teams regularly conceded 2 or more goals and weíre currently a team who regularly concedes two goals.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Ari on January 21, 2018, 05:35:59 PM
Fair play to us like. First time I've seen a club not only fuck their own season up but also fuck up another clubs season.


Gone are the days when so called supporters actually supported...
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: blargins on January 21, 2018, 05:37:31 PM
So does anyone still want him?
Nope.

Thereís better out there. He was never a good fit for us.

To think they wanted 20 million for him. Lol
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: gizzblue on January 21, 2018, 05:43:18 PM
Gone are the days when so called supporters actually supported...
Hahahaha what are we all doing spending money good after bad  going the game then ?.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Macca77 on January 21, 2018, 05:47:44 PM
I bet Silva is made up, shithouse club Watford
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: terrydarracotsbaldpate on January 21, 2018, 05:58:10 PM
I hope Humongous Sam appoints Silva to his massive back room in readiness for the summer. Watford's board worse than ours.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: blargins on January 21, 2018, 06:02:52 PM
We should make approaches for all the managers for teams above us.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Ridge on January 21, 2018, 06:09:54 PM
It's a fair cop, it certainly derailed their momentum, Watford had options and decided at all costs to hold on to a manager who wanted out.

Would certainly take Silva over Allardyce, think he'd restore some pride pretty quickly. But think the last couple of months have shown why he would be a risk, that Koeman was not a terrible manager and that the only improvement this season came under Unsworth.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Simon Paul on January 21, 2018, 06:20:20 PM
he clearly fancied us and had probably told the players to leg it as he walked out of training in his Everton clobber, only to return the next day with his tail between his legs

the wheels have fallen off at Watford since then though, and from what I've seen of them the players don't believe in him any more - almost the same type of performances as Rhino got from our lot when they knew he wasn't getting the job full time but still had to play 6 games under him.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Macca77 on January 21, 2018, 06:30:47 PM
Haha

https://twitter.com/HajdukSplitNews/status/955029445236219905
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Ridge on January 21, 2018, 06:32:26 PM
We are like a virus
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on January 21, 2018, 06:43:26 PM
One shite club fucks up another shite club.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: blueToffee on January 21, 2018, 06:44:05 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/8ubGFLt.gif)
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: bogie on January 21, 2018, 06:53:57 PM
*Want* is a strong term, but i'd prefer him over Allardyce.

and then who to get us back up ?
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Mayor Farnum on January 21, 2018, 06:54:33 PM
Poor excuse from Watford. He had a decent start in his first eight games then it fell apart. It happens to plenty of the also-rans in the top flight and always has.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Jamokachi on January 21, 2018, 06:55:39 PM
So does anyone still want him?

Yes
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: kramer0 on January 21, 2018, 07:11:32 PM
Watford don't like easy money?

They could have rinsed us.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on January 21, 2018, 07:44:26 PM
Makes sense from Watford - they wouldíve got relegated under Silva.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on January 21, 2018, 07:47:29 PM
Will we go for him in the summer? Whichever manager we get needs funds and a couple of seasons to get some cohesion from this Ďteamí. And theyíll be even more turnover with the likes of Jags leaving in the summer, which wonít help. Would our board have enough trust in Silva after the way itís panned out for him?
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Waltzer on January 21, 2018, 08:01:52 PM
Think we need to question Moshiri if Silva isnt appointed. It was only a couple of months ago that he jeopardised our season in his relentless pursuit of him and even offered 12 million. It was an act of desperation that he turned to Allardyce, and lets be honest, he isnt doing that great and the style of football is woeful. If Moshiri doesnt go out an get in, for me, it makes me question his decision making if hes now decided he isnt the option and isnt worth perusing
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Sixx1402 on January 21, 2018, 08:15:41 PM
I would like him yes, think he deserves a chance at a club with decent spending clout to mould a team, he hasn't had that with his last 2 clubs.

And to be fair they were flying until we came in for him.

But Allardyce won't be going anywhere until the summer so I think we can forget about this one as he'll probably have taken another job by then
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 21, 2018, 08:20:18 PM
Think we need to question Moshiri if Silva isnt appointed. It was only a couple of months ago that he jeopardised our season in his relentless pursuit of him and even offered 12 million. It was an act of desperation that he turned to Allardyce, and lets be honest, he isnt doing that great and the style of football is woeful. If Moshiri doesnt go out an get in, for me, it makes me question his decision making if hes now decided he isnt the option and isnt worth perusing

You haven't already questioned Moshiris decision making ?
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: TheRam on January 21, 2018, 08:35:36 PM
Poor excuse from Watford. He had a decent start in his first eight games then it fell apart. It happens to plenty of the also-rans in the top flight and always has.

This sounds very familiar.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: The Analog Kid on January 21, 2018, 08:38:04 PM
What a fucking palaver.

Cant stand that stuff. The meringue gives me toothache.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: toffee_scot on January 21, 2018, 08:46:57 PM
Watford are a strange club who love hiring and firing managers. I think their managers actually have very little say on the recruitment side of things so there will always be a lot of friction between the manager and the hierarchy over the extent of control over the footballing side.

I think Allardyce's position will be safe until at least the summer unless things really get worse for Everton and he can't reverse our poor form. We are coming towards the end of a transfer window where the current manager will have had his input on how to improve the team and to honest, can the club really go through another manager upheaval again in a season which is only really past the halfway point? As much as I hate having this guy in charge of the club I would rather get through this season before sorting out properly the managerial issue at the club.

I am not sure anyway if Silva is the right person to take Everton forward especially if it will take another radical squad upheaval to get the club playing the way he wants them to.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: blargins on January 21, 2018, 08:53:27 PM
I would like him yes, think he deserves a chance at a club with decent spending clout to mould a team, he hasn't had that with his last 2 clubs.

And to be fair they were flying until we came in for him.

But Allardyce won't be going anywhere until the summer so I think we can forget about this one as he'll probably have taken another job by then

Why does he deserve a chance? He's been in management less than 10 years and has changed club at least once a season with little to no success in big leagues. A relegation and a sacking in the prem is hardly a great foundation to go on. And if it is true that we turned his head, then it shows weak leadership that he couldn't turn himself round and focus on the job he is paid millions each year to work at.

He is the epitome of a journeyman manager.

So no thanks. I don't want Sam either, but I've never wanted Silva.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: arteta4spain on January 21, 2018, 09:02:01 PM
Why does he deserve a chance? He's been in management less than 10 years and has changed club at least once a season with little to no success in big leagues. A relegation and a sacking in the prem is hardly a great foundation to go on. And if it is true that we turned his head, then it shows weak leadership that he couldn't turn himself round and focus on the job he is paid millions each year to work at.

He is the epitome of a journeyman manager.

So no thanks. I don't want Sam either, but I've never wanted Silva.
Feel the same he gives off a Martinez vibe to me so no thanks!
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: SANA_DR0 on January 21, 2018, 09:08:14 PM
Will we go for him in the summer? Whichever manager we get needs funds and a couple of seasons to get some cohesion from this Ďteamí. And theyíll be even more turnover with the likes of Jags leaving in the summer, which wonít help. Would our board have enough trust in Silva after the way itís panned out for him?

I dont personally want him anymore, but whichever manager we should go for, we should get now.. give him ten days to buy and get rid of players..  i dread to think how the season will end up keeping Allardyce at the helm.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Waltzer on January 21, 2018, 09:13:44 PM
You haven't already questioned Moshiris decision making ?

Once or twice granted :) But his haphazard approach does concern me
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: eugene on January 21, 2018, 09:26:36 PM
Will we go for him in the summer? Whichever manager we get needs funds and a couple of seasons to get some cohesion from this "team'. And they'll be even more turnover with the likes of Jags leaving in the summer, which won't help. Would our board have enough trust in Silva after the way it's panned out for him?
Like fuckin Groundhog Day this and it comes from the top!
We were better with nish
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: eugene on January 21, 2018, 09:28:38 PM
Why does he deserve a chance? He's been in management less than 10 years and has changed club at least once a season with little to no success in big leagues. A relegation and a sacking in the prem is hardly a great foundation to go on. And if it is true that we turned his head, then it shows weak leadership that he couldn't turn himself round and focus on the job he is paid millions each year to work at.

He is the epitome of a journeyman manager.

So no thanks. I don't want Sam either, but I've never wanted Silva.
Or he could be watching us and thinking they would have been better under me
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Simon Paul on January 21, 2018, 09:34:58 PM
Sky saying they don't buy it

Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: eugene on January 21, 2018, 09:37:01 PM
Sky saying they don't buy it
Donít buy what
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Simon Paul on January 21, 2018, 09:37:37 PM
Don't buy what

That we are to blame for Silva being shit

You don't look at what you're reading do you?
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: eugene on January 21, 2018, 09:46:40 PM
Just hang on for one moment you post a random comment then try to chastise me link your post man and I donít want a fuckin big rant letís be clear
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Simon Paul on January 21, 2018, 09:48:16 PM
Just hang on for one moment you post a random comment then try to chastise me link your post man and I don't want a fuckin big rant let's be clear

You want a link to sky pundits talking on TV?

Get your own subscription and ask your wife permission to watch it in future.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: eugene on January 21, 2018, 09:51:31 PM
You want a link to sky pundits talking on TV?

Get your own subscription and ask your wife permission to watch it in future.
What the fuck are you on lad you talk shit ranting nonsense
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: bogie on January 21, 2018, 10:07:10 PM
Will we go for him in the summer? Whichever manager we get needs funds and a couple of seasons to get some cohesion from this ‘team’. And they’ll be even more turnover with the likes of Jags leaving in the summer, which won’t help. Would our board have enough trust in Silva after the way it’s panned out for him?

lol lol lol lol you made my day with this
 
Whichever manager we get needs funds and a couple of seasons
or  a few weeks depending on the managers

with the likes of Jags leaving in the summer, which won’t help
the best that could happen is jag takes AW with him
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Tony Clifton on January 21, 2018, 10:08:16 PM
Bullet dodged.  Leave him to it on the merry-go-round.  Go for a proven name ASAP.  And fuck Watford. 
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: eugene on January 21, 2018, 10:11:30 PM
lol lol lol lol you made my day with this
 
Whichever manager we get needs funds and a couple of seasons
or  a few weeks depending on the managers

with the likes of Jags leaving in the summer, which won’t help
the best that could happen is jag takes AW with him
Fully agree however we are not a bottomless pit, the whole management and scouting system needs to addressed, remember when we had a shoestring and still improved our squad? Aka Moyes
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: The Analog Kid on January 21, 2018, 10:14:49 PM
Itís as if heís not had enough games in the meantime to forget about Evertonís supposed interest and knuckle down with Watford.

Piss poor excuse.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on January 21, 2018, 10:17:58 PM
The entertainment isn't worth the stress of the last months...but nearly.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Simon Paul on January 21, 2018, 10:36:22 PM
What the fuck are you on lad you talk shit ranting nonsense

If "shit raving nonsense" isn't the very definition of itself then I don't know what is.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: eugene on January 21, 2018, 10:49:33 PM
If "shit raving nonsense" isn't the very definition of itself then I don't know what is.
Shit,ranting nonsense I missed a comma report that to the grammar police!
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Tony Clifton on January 21, 2018, 11:06:09 PM
Look at the shit heís started in here as well... nothing but trouble that Marco Silva.  :wag:
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Rodenplav64 on January 22, 2018, 12:06:05 AM
Watford are a fucking joke of a club and they have sacked some decent Managers in Jokanovic , Sanchez Flores , Matzarri and Silva . One team I wouldn't mind going back down .
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Ridge on January 22, 2018, 12:37:18 AM
It seems to me, he lived his life, like a blowtorch in the sewage pipe
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: brap2 on January 22, 2018, 01:04:25 AM
You want a link to sky pundits talking on TV?

Get your own subscription and ask your wife permission to watch it in future.

You canít half be a dickhead you know
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Simon Paul on January 22, 2018, 01:12:17 AM
You can't half be a dickhead you know

Not that I need your permission, but thanks
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: blargins on January 22, 2018, 02:27:03 AM
They get their replacements in quick though. Wonder how long this one will last.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Ravardo on January 22, 2018, 02:37:50 AM
Fair play to watford foe sacking their manager and employing another on the same day,,,why the fuck would you sack a manager when your in 10th place anyways,, and i think we might of dodged a bullet there with silva but instead we got hit by a massive fuck off bomb
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Shogun on January 22, 2018, 02:43:23 AM
Fair play to watford foe sacking their manager and employing another on the same day,,,why the fuck would you sack a manager when your in 10th place anyways,, and i think we might of dodged a bullet there with silva but instead we got hit by a massive fuck off bomb

Unless things are terrible behind the scenes, it doesn't make much sense to change at this stafe of the season unless you're massively worried about relegation and then bring in an Allardyce type.

Replacing him in January with a manager like Javi Garcia just seems a pretty risky move.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: blue slug on January 22, 2018, 02:55:00 AM
They go through managers so quick they might even end up with Ron Atkinson eventually
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Redartin on January 22, 2018, 02:58:46 AM
Pity they appointed Garcia so soon. They could have gone for revenge and stolen Allardyce. Oh if only!
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Ari on January 22, 2018, 03:24:10 AM
Hahahaha what are we all doing spending money good after bad  going the game then ?.

In my view I am not actually "spending" the money.  I am delivering the money to a game that I love.  And to deliver the money to Everton fooball club has given me more loads and loads of enjoyment through the years.  The joy and love I get in return makes the money I "spend" seem like nothing.  I love Everton and I have done so since 1969.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Ell Capitan on January 22, 2018, 03:32:11 AM
Be quite funny if they tried to poach Allardyce from us.

Though not quite like for like as, even if his head was turned, I don't think it's possible for our results to decline any further.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Ari on January 22, 2018, 03:35:03 AM
Not that I need your permission, but thanks

That's a beautifully arrogant, you are the King in here you can rant all you want Simon... and if someone dares to ask you and correct you in a way  ... you act like a kid in your response.  (to eugene)
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: GLewis on January 22, 2018, 03:40:19 AM
Unless things are terrible behind the scenes, it doesn't make much sense to change at this stafe of the season unless you're massively worried about relegation and then bring in an Allardyce type.

Replacing him in January with a manager like Javi Garcia just seems a pretty risky move.

If the squad realise that he wants out or heís not quite there mentally then itís very easy to keep on sliding down.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: gizzblue on January 22, 2018, 05:59:52 AM
In my view I am not actually "spending" the money.  I am delivering the money to a game that I love.  And to deliver the money to Everton fooball club has given me more loads and loads of enjoyment through the years.  The joy and love I get in return makes the money I "spend" seem like nothing.  I love Everton and I have done so since 1969.
We've all been through thick and thin and the whole shitty years since the good old eighties aside the Martinez first year anomaly...and some good finishes under Moyes.

If we didn't "all" love the club we would all just fuck off and glory hunt elsewhere no?.

And certainly wouldn't bother our arses coming on here .

So one fan is basically comparitive with any other yes?.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: gizzblue on January 22, 2018, 06:00:30 AM
Be quite funny if they tried to poach Allardyce from us.

Though not quite like for like as, even if his head was turned, I don't think it's possible for our results to decline any further.
That's a huge head to turn 😅😅
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: dunkster on January 22, 2018, 03:37:30 PM
The only reason (only) id hire silva right now is the immense satisfaction id get of allardyce being fucked off after just a few weeks.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: MmmBlueRamirez on January 22, 2018, 04:03:19 PM
Be interesting to see if this cat gets a new gig between now and the summer.

If not, it could indicate we have a pre-contract agreed but not publicly declared.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: dunkster on January 22, 2018, 04:08:59 PM
Im sincerely hoping silva was part of a group of managers that we had any chance of getting mid season and in the trouble we were in. Im hoping that come the summer, if we can still promise money to spend, that we have a more ambitious group of managers in mind
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Dr. Sponge on January 22, 2018, 08:06:46 PM
They stole Z Cars from us. Swings and roundabouts.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: everton1952 on January 22, 2018, 08:34:01 PM
Stuff Watford. They have had about 10 managers in the last few years. Who cares what they say?
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Mick 1995 on January 22, 2018, 08:50:23 PM
Times are reporting that Andre Carrillo's head was turned as well and he was discussing moving here with Silva.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Macca77 on January 22, 2018, 08:53:40 PM
Times are reporting that Andre Carrillo's head was turned as well and he was discussing moving here with Silva.

Redshite Echo has picked up on that story

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/marco-silva-wanted-watford-winger-14187862
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on January 22, 2018, 11:54:53 PM
Haha Silva was counting his chickens
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: SANA_DR0 on January 23, 2018, 12:04:14 AM
well at least Everton are a 'catalyst' for something this season, shame we didnt use our incredible youngsters this season as base for our own catalyst.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: BlueForYou on January 23, 2018, 12:53:51 AM
Life's a Silva bullet, Marco

If Saints get relegated, they'll blame us for poaching Koeman

Not written in the stars is it, relegation this year? Watford, Southampton and
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: pjk on January 23, 2018, 06:35:25 AM
It's hardly hilarious or funny where the Silva situation is concerned. We're still looking for stability. Laughing at Watford and our feverishness to bring Silva on board is the way football's going. Everton is losing the spirit we expect. Let's hope we get our feet, sooner, rather than later.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Sixx1402 on January 28, 2018, 08:53:40 PM
Why does he deserve a chance? He's been in management less than 10 years and has changed club at least once a season with little to no success in big leagues. A relegation and a sacking in the prem is hardly a great foundation to go on. And if it is true that we turned his head, then it shows weak leadership that he couldn't turn himself round and focus on the job he is paid millions each year to work at.

He is the epitome of a journeyman manager.

So no thanks. I don't want Sam either, but I've never wanted Silva.

He got Estoril promoted in his first season in charge and won manger of the year.

He then finished 5th with them in their first top flight season qualifying for the Europa league.

The next season he finished 4th with them before he left for sporting.

At his one season at sporting he won the cup, their first piece of silverware since 2008.

Then at Olympiacos he won the league with 6 games remaining in his only season there, this season included a 17 game winning streak (a European record) and a 3-2 win at arsenal in the champions league.

THAT'S why he deserves a chance.

But yeah he's had 'little or no success.'

Maybe we should go for Guardiola instead.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: blargins on January 28, 2018, 08:55:45 PM
He got Estoril promoted in his first season in charge and won manger of the year.

He then finished 5th with them in their first top flight season qualifying for the Europa league.

The next season he finished 4th with them before he left for sporting.

At his one season at sporting he won the cup, their first piece of silverware since 2008.

Then at Olympiacos he won the league with 6 games remaining in his only season there, this season included a 17 game winning streak (a European record) and a 3-2 win at arsenal in the champions league.

THAT'S why he deserves a chance.

But yeah he's had 'little or no success.'

Maybe we should go for Guardiola instead.

Brendon Rodgers has won pretty much everything in Scotland. Should we give him a go?

Sorry, but Silva has done pretty much nothing in the Prem. A relegation and a sacking is not much cause for a ton of excitement.

In fact Rodgers would still probably be the better manager, despite his redshite links.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: gizzblue on January 28, 2018, 09:00:04 PM
Brendon Rodgers has won pretty much everything in Scotland. Should we give him a go?

Sorry, but Silva has done pretty much nothing in the Prem. A relegation and a sacking is not much cause for a ton of excitement.

In fact Rodgers would still probably be the better manager, despite his redshite links.
As much as I hate Brenda Rodgers
Why would ve leave the security and easy life of the Scottish prem for our shite at the min .
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: blargins on January 28, 2018, 09:02:57 PM
As much as I hate Brenda Rodgers
Why would ve leave the security and easy life of the Scottish prem for our shite at the min .

I'm not saying I want Rodgers either. I just don't get the whole Silva love in.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on January 28, 2018, 09:03:05 PM
As much as I hate Brenda Rodgers
Why would ve leave the security and easy life of the Scottish prem for our shite at the min .

I think the point is that success in poor foreign leagues isn't enough credentials to manage a PL team.

Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Juanito on January 28, 2018, 09:27:53 PM
He got Estoril promoted in his first season in charge and won manger of the year.

He then finished 5th with them in their first top flight season qualifying for the Europa league.

The next season he finished 4th with them before he left for sporting.

At his one season at sporting he won the cup, their first piece of silverware since 2008.

Then at Olympiacos he won the league with 6 games remaining in his only season there, this season included a 17 game winning streak (a European record) and a 3-2 win at arsenal in the champions league.

THAT'S why he deserves a chance.

But yeah he's had 'little or no success.'

Maybe we should go for Guardiola instead.

Hopefully we sack Allardyce after the Leicester game and bring him in. I can see the atmosphere turning toxic after Vardy easily outstrips Williams for a early goal.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 28, 2018, 09:43:15 PM
Hopefully we sack Allardyce after the Leicester game and bring him in. I can see the atmosphere turning toxic after Vardy easily outstrips Williams for a early goal.

Really? Hopefully we sack another manager. This 1 after a handful of games. Then take another punt on another flavour of the month only this time he's months out of date and no longer the next next big thing.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Shogun on January 28, 2018, 09:53:36 PM
I hope he's our second choice after Fonseca.

Otherwise it just reinforces the belief that Moshiri and co have absolute no idea what they're doing after identifying him before Allardyce.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Evertonian in NC on January 28, 2018, 11:58:13 PM
all on board the Fonseca train, but 100% feel the next manager has to be positive in his approach.  The whip has most assuredly not worked.

And yes, there is a middle ground before you get to RM redux.  But I go back to RM having it 75-80% right, just being fatally flawed.  You have to instill belief.  Without belief (in team sport) there is nothing.  This squad has zero belief right now.  Neutering them even further hasn't helped.  You're saying "you aren't even up to standard against West Brom at home."
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: kiwiblue65 on January 29, 2018, 03:06:09 AM
the universe works in mysterious ways...

I dont think Sam will last til the end of March, and i dont see him(allardyce) improving things
And Silva will ? I fear Evertonians are happy with shite pretty boy football. We are now a losers club when it comes to our supporters. We should be thinking don't lose 1st and 2nd win. Its a fucking competition. Long may Sam reign think he will make us better
What a fucking palaver.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: kiwiblue65 on January 29, 2018, 03:21:19 AM
Really? Hopefully we sack another manager. This 1 after a handful of games. Then take another punt on another flavour of the month only this time he's months out of date and no longer the next next big thing.
Know what the word supporter means?
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: Juanito on January 29, 2018, 03:25:46 AM
Really? Hopefully we sack another manager. This 1 after a handful of games. Then take another punt on another flavour of the month only this time he's months out of date and no longer the next next big thing.

Yes, as I absolutely canít stand Sam Allardyce. I canít stand his abhorrent brand of Ďfootballí, I canít bear to watch us not register shots on target and I canít bare to listen to him blame the players after his pre historic tactics fail, time after time. Silva would improve us.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: brap2 on January 29, 2018, 03:31:05 AM
And Silva will ? I fear Evertonians are happy with shite pretty boy football. We are now a losers club when it comes to our supporters. We should be thinking don't lose 1st and 2nd win. Its a fucking competition. Long may Sam reign think he will make us better

Yeah thatís it mate, notorious for our slick attractive football arenít we.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 29, 2018, 03:31:50 AM
Know what the word supporter means?

I've no clue as to what you're getting at? You're gonna have to explain. How am I not supporting? Wasn't me wishing yet another manager gets the sack.
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: gizzblue on January 29, 2018, 06:34:33 AM
Know what the word supporter means?
Just because a few hate the manager or think he's shit ,we still go the game ,still support the team ....just not the idiot in charge making us play worse football than an inept Koeman and our caretaker Rhino.....nothing wrong with a bad opinion of a shit manager imho,and it certainly doesn't mean anyone has started wearing Liverpool pj's 😅
Title: Re: [News]Watford blame Everton for Silva decline
Post by: kiwiblue65 on January 29, 2018, 06:55:50 AM
Yeah that's it mate, notorious for our slick attractive football aren't we.
No we aren't. But we need to stop losing 1st. I don't know if  Sam is the long term answer. But I would rather  have him than someone like Silva trying to play football we don't have the players that are able to play.  1st thing stay in the Premier League 2nd  don't get beat, 3rd grind out wins. Confidence will bring the good football eventually. Sure we have lost a few just lately but its still not Sam's team and the players are very much to blame. Or we could just become a team that participates in a supporting act for the top top 4 and play so called great football that entertains and we get beat 5or 6 when we play the top sides. Not for me. It just an opinion.