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Title: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: dangermouse on January 25, 2018, 04:03:16 PM
Conte on Barkley after their defeat to Arsenal last night...

"When there is an injury to one of your best players it is not simple," Conte said. "Especially when on the bench the only substitute is Ross Barkley.

"Barkley has a lot of space for improvement, he is working with us only two weeks but for sure today I was forced to make this substitution, but he can improve a lot."

OUCH

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/ross-barkley-receives-bizarre-criticism-14200063
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Gash on January 25, 2018, 04:22:28 PM
And Barkley thought Koeman was hard on him.

I think this is one of those Chelsea transfers that the manager didn't have a lot of say in. It's not the first time Conte's made similar, less than enthusiastic comments about Barkley, it makes the suggestion that they've bought him just to turn him into profit all the more believable.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Escla on January 25, 2018, 04:27:18 PM
Conte on Barkley after their defeat to Arsenal last night...

"When there is an injury to one of your best players it is not simple," Conte said. "Especially when on the bench the only substitute is Ross Barkley.

"Barkley has a lot of space for improvement, he is working with us only two weeks but for sure today I was forced to make this substitution, but he can improve a lot."

OUCH

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/ross-barkley-receives-bizarre-criticism-14200063

But, will he improve a lot ? Personally doubt it.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Escla on January 25, 2018, 04:29:53 PM
And Barkley thought Koeman was hard on him.

I think this is one of those Chelsea transfers that the manager didn't have a lot of say in. It's not the first time Conte's made similar, less than enthusiastic comments about Barkley, it makes the suggestion that they've bought him just to turn him into profit all the more believable.

No doubt he will make them a profit, half decent couple of games, nothing spectacular and they could still flip him for £30-40 million under the next Manager in 6 months time.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Mayor Farnum on January 25, 2018, 05:11:03 PM
I think he may have meant that everyone else on the bench was a youngster and thus Barkley his only option.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: 74Blue on January 25, 2018, 06:37:44 PM
Not really glowing words of encouragement there. I think Barkley's dropped a massive bollock going to Chelsea tbh. He needs an arm round the shoulder type of manager to get the best out of him. Conte is just not that type. Roberto Martinez was perhaps too much that type of manager and probably over-indulged  Ross' need to feel the love. He needs lots of encouragement with a sprinkling of constructive criticism. Under RM, he got none of the latter.
Anyway, he's Chelsea's problem now, so fuck him!
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 25, 2018, 10:25:11 PM
Loved his last second corner. Everyone up including the keeper and he hits the first man. He got slaughter on twitter too. They want a refund
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Shogun on January 26, 2018, 12:31:54 AM
Still haven't quite come to terms that he's there.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: gizzblue on January 26, 2018, 12:36:36 AM
Hope nobody was booing him in a cock-a-ney  accent for poor corners aww diddums...

In all honesty couldn't write that without giggling 😅😅
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 26, 2018, 12:57:20 AM
Out for a good 6 months, comes on and isn't up to speed. Wow. I'm shocked
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Gash on January 26, 2018, 01:29:38 AM
Out for a good 6 months, comes on and isn't up to speed. Wow. I'm shocked

The worry if you're Barkley or a Chelsea fan is it just looked like a similar performance that we've seen plenty times over the years from a match fit Barkley.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 26, 2018, 01:44:18 AM
Out for a good 6 months, comes on and isn't up to speed. Wow. I'm shocked

But their complaints were very much similar to the complaints he got when playing for us. Suggests maybe he is up to speed
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on January 26, 2018, 01:44:50 AM
The worry if you're Barkley or a Chelsea fan is it just looked like a similar performance that we've seen plenty times over the years from a match fit Barkley.

Beat me to it
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 26, 2018, 01:56:40 AM
The worry if you're Barkley or a Chelsea fan is it just looked like a similar performance that we've seen plenty times over the years from a match fit Barkley.
Yeah I agree with that. Bit early to write him off tho imo
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: gizzblue on January 26, 2018, 02:09:17 AM
Yeah I agree with that. Bit early to write him off tho imo
Thing is if his next performance is as poor ...when will somebody who is obvs week mentally start letting it get to him ...if he read Conte's but in the paper he could already be full of doubts .
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 26, 2018, 02:10:09 AM
Thing is if his next performance is as poor ...when will somebody who is obvs week mentally start letting it get to him ...if he read Conte's but in the paper he could already be full of doubts .
Time will tell

Id still have him in our midfield any day of the week
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: gizzblue on January 26, 2018, 02:11:06 AM
Time will tell

Id still have him in our midfield any day of the week
Not me we have enough shite not performing right here .
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 26, 2018, 02:14:23 AM
Not me we have enough shite not performing right here .
It's all about opinions pal
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: gizzblue on January 26, 2018, 02:35:23 AM
It's all about opinions pal
Too true .👍
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Gash on January 26, 2018, 03:36:58 AM
Yeah I agree with that. Bit early to write him off tho imo

Perhaps but it is a bit of history repeating itself. It's the old story, there's always an excuse for him. I think it'll be a bad move for him, it was a transfer that barely caused a ripple for the one time future of English football and certainly didn't inspire Chelsea fans. He got a bit of grief from a minority of Everton fans but that will be nothing compared to what the Chelsea fans will give him, injury or not, time is not on his side and if they turn quickly on him his confidence will be shot and we've all seen what he's like when his head drops.

At the end of the day he's played 150 Premier League games and been in and around the league for 6 or 7 years now, he's no longer an inexperienced kid finding his way in the game. I can't help think we'll still be having these conversations when he's 29 and people will still be claiming that the next season is a big season for him or saying he's still got potential.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 26, 2018, 03:47:01 AM
Perhaps but it is a bit of history repeating itself. It's the old story, there's always an excuse for him. I think it'll be a bad move for him, it was a transfer that barely caused a ripple for the one time future of English football and certainly didn't inspire Chelsea fans. He got a bit of grief from a minority of Everton fans but that will be nothing compared to what the Chelsea fans will give him, injury or not, time is not on his side and if they turn quickly on him his confidence will be shot and we've all seen what he's like when his head drops.

At the end of the day he's played 150 Premier League games and been in and around the league for 6 or 7 years now, he's no longer an inexperienced kid finding his way in the game. I can't help think we'll still be having these conversations when he's 29 and people will still be claiming that the next season is a big season for him or saying he's still got potential.
I doubt theres many who think this is a good move for him but it's been and gone now
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Alanvideo on January 27, 2018, 03:11:22 AM

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2018/jan/26/ross-barkley-stumbling-start-chelsea-antonio-conte#comment-111362645
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: velimski on January 27, 2018, 03:50:51 AM
Hope he fails miserably.

There, I've said it.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: blargins on January 27, 2018, 05:01:22 AM
He's been all potential with a few flashes of brilliance here and there. Perhaps as he matures he may get close to being the player we expected. This is the worst move he could have made from a footballing perspective. I expect him to eventually become one of Leicester's greatest players.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Heisenberg on January 29, 2018, 04:32:40 AM
With his poor mental game, a few bad games and benchings and he could be on a slippery slope to running down his massive contract on the bench.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: dangermouse on January 31, 2018, 02:50:10 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2018/jan/26/ross-barkley-stumbling-start-chelsea-antonio-conte#comment-111362645

From that article

"He whirled around a lot, finding pockets of pointless space."   

Haha  just how I remember him playing for us.

He has been out for 6-8 months though so Im not really surprised he had a stinker of a debut. Im sure he will improve but not enough to meet Chelsea standards. I imagine he will spend a season there being a useful sub and then get sold on to West Ham or some other uninteresting team.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: bacon sarnie on January 31, 2018, 09:42:06 PM
Mahrez will end up in the same boat at City and he's a way better player.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: chang on February 01, 2018, 04:19:07 AM
Subbed off @ 54 minutes tonight

Think there is an error with the BBC website - it says Chelsea 0 Bournemouth 3  :whistle:
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: MmmblueBernard on February 01, 2018, 04:33:18 AM
Subbed off @ 54 minutes tonight

Think there is an error with the BBC website - it says Chelsea 0 Bournemouth 3  :whistle:

Not the best of home debuts......

Cant pin all the blame on him mind.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Jamokachi on February 01, 2018, 07:49:07 AM
He's still going to be miles of match fitness and sharpness.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: blueToffee on February 01, 2018, 08:58:42 AM
Chelsea look ready to combust again. Conte almost certainly gone, I wonder who'll they'll bring in next.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Glory on February 01, 2018, 09:36:51 AM
He's still going to be miles of match fitness and sharpness.
Could have said the same about Coleman...
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Jamokachi on February 01, 2018, 11:26:25 AM
Could have said the same about Coleman...

You could. But the you could remember that players are individuals and react differently.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: The Analog Kid on February 01, 2018, 01:55:02 PM
Chelsea look ready to combust again. Conte almost certainly gone, I wonder who'll they'll bring in next.

Luis Enrique.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: School of Science on February 01, 2018, 08:20:09 PM
Luis Enrique.

Hmm wonder what Conte is doing then, type of manager we should be all over if we want to reach the next level.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: gizzblue on February 01, 2018, 08:26:56 PM
He was shite here(aside one game I remember) but got away with it for being a local lad. ...now he's shit there people still giving him leeway 😅....he's had plenty of time training to get his fitness (he was up to fitness with us, just didn't want to play I rekon)...the lad is just shit imho.

West ham foder for the future or maybe Newcastle at a push ...another waste of what might of been.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: blargins on February 01, 2018, 11:33:51 PM
Chelsea look ready to combust again. Conte almost certainly gone, I wonder who'll they'll bring in next.

SA.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: The Analog Kid on February 02, 2018, 12:39:26 AM
Hmm wonder what Conte is doing then, type of manager we should be all over if we want to reach the next level.

Going back to Italy isnít he?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Toffee1 on February 02, 2018, 12:43:52 AM
Going back to Italy isnít he?

Inter wanted him before he got the Chelsea and would probably move for him if/when he leaves Chelsea.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Heisenberg on February 02, 2018, 01:23:08 AM
To be fair it is really tough for players coming back from long term fake injuries
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: School of Science on February 02, 2018, 02:05:24 AM
Going back to Italy isnít he?

Could we afford more than where he's going though, sometimes money talks.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Alanvideo on February 04, 2018, 02:18:30 PM

Possible hamstring again..............
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/02/03/chelseahead-coach-antonio-conte-scrutiny-afterross-barkleypicks/
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Ramjam on February 04, 2018, 02:25:29 PM
Possible hamstring again..............
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/02/03/chelseahead-coach-antonio-conte-scrutiny-afterross-barkleypicks/
Fuck him
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Goaljira on February 04, 2018, 04:14:52 PM
Possible hamstring again..............
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/02/03/chelseahead-coach-antonio-conte-scrutiny-afterross-barkleypicks/

Flashbacks to the soft-tissue crisis of 2014-15
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: TheTone on February 04, 2018, 06:56:53 PM
Chelsea look ready to combust again. Conte almost certainly gone, I wonder who'll they'll bring in next.

The Napoli manager being talked about
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Ramjam on February 05, 2018, 05:51:14 PM
The Napoli manager being talked about
Klaassen on his way to the bridge then
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: gizzblue on February 05, 2018, 11:58:02 PM
Awe poor Ross,

Pahahahahahahahaha 😅
New Chelsea sick note. 
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Redartin on February 06, 2018, 05:38:08 PM
Could we afford more than where he's going though, sometimes money talks.
I've said it before, the amount we have pissed out on un-performing managers in both wages and compo packages in recent years, (and still are), has been enough to afford anyone.
Title: Where's Barkley?
Post by: Paddockoldie on March 05, 2018, 01:26:03 AM
Is he still injured or is he just not good enough for Chelsea? Not even in the bench today so assume injured.
Title: Re: Where's Barkley?
Post by: blue slug on March 05, 2018, 01:27:42 AM
Is he still injured or is he just not good enough for Chelsea? Not even in the bench today so assume injured.

Iíd say the latter
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Gash on March 05, 2018, 01:30:22 AM
Is he still injured or is he just not good enough for Chelsea? Not even in the bench today so assume injured.

Only just back from another hamstring injury, he was available but not selected.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Ross on March 05, 2018, 01:33:26 AM
Heíd improve us no ends as a team and youíd be made to think otherwise.

Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Brownie on March 05, 2018, 01:41:11 AM
Heíd improve us no ends as a team and youíd be made to think otherwise.



That's not saying much at the moment. I've said it before, he's not got it mentally to be a top player. There's a sigh centre to him. He'll be at Newcastle or West Ham in a season's time
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Ross on March 05, 2018, 01:45:00 AM
That's not saying much at the moment. I've said it before, he's not got it mentally to be a top player. There's a sigh centre to him. He'll be at Newcastle or West Ham in a season's time

If Barkleys fit and so is every other Everton midfielder, whoís the best player?

Heís well above West Ham or Newcastle level he might have to taste a step back after poor career advice but it wonít be his level.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Brownie on March 05, 2018, 01:56:30 AM
If Barkleys fit and so is every other Everton midfielder, whoís the best player?

Heís well above West Ham or Newcastle level he might have to taste a step back after poor career advice but it wonít be his level.

His decision making is poor, he has no fight in him. He's never fulfilled his promise. He's not a kid anymore. Sadly I think he's done
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Ross on March 05, 2018, 02:00:11 AM
His decision making is poor, he has no fight in him. He's never fulfilled his promise. He's. It a kid anymore. Sadly I think he's done

Is there any midfielder in our squad whoís better than him?

Like I said he might not last long at Chelsea but heís way above the likes of West Ham weíd have him back before he goes to that sort of club.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Brownie on March 05, 2018, 02:02:39 AM
Is there any midfielder in our squad whoís better than him?

Like I said he might not last long at Chelsea but heís way above the likes of West Ham weíd have him back before he goes to that sort of club.

Do you know what it's so long since I've seen him play and so long since he had a great game I couldn't actually tell you. Technically he's probably better than the majority, but skill alone does not make you a better player. And tbh, I wouldn't want him back at the club.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 05, 2018, 02:29:42 AM
I miss him
For me he's a better player than Sigurdsson and klaasen
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: TheRam on March 05, 2018, 02:38:53 AM
Nah, sigurdson is a lot better for me and I think 95% of managers out there take him over Barkley.

And that's coming from someone who ridiculed people for saying this a year ago.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Brownie on March 05, 2018, 02:49:21 AM
Nah, sigurdson is a lot better for me and I think 95% of managers out there take him over Barkley.

And that's coming from someone who ridiculed people for saying this a year ago.

I agree.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Jimmywhack on March 05, 2018, 03:05:59 AM
Nah, sigurdson is a lot better for me and I think 95% of managers out there take him over Barkley.

And that's coming from someone who ridiculed people for saying this a year ago.
Them together would be great
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: gizzblue on March 05, 2018, 03:09:15 AM
Sig is really where he should be aiming now tbh. ...although hasn't got Sigs work rate or composure at all .
Wouldn't want him back either, cunts trick he and his agent pulled on the club....so you could add a serious lack of loyalty to the bad things about him in too .
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Ross on March 05, 2018, 04:44:12 AM
Need your bumps read if you think Sigurdsson is a better player than Barkley.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Shogun on March 05, 2018, 04:54:52 AM
You'd never see Barkley scoring the goal Gylfi got at Anfield.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Brownie on March 05, 2018, 05:06:51 AM
Need your bumps read if you think Sigurdsson is a better player than Barkley.

What is so good about Barkley though? I honestly haven't given him a second thought since he scored against Watford last year. Take your blue tinted specs off for a minute. He was always more hype than substance. When did he ever turn up against a top team?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Bluedylan on March 05, 2018, 05:17:28 AM
What is so good about Barkley though? I honestly haven't given him a second thought since he scored against Watford last year. Take your blue tinted specs off for a minute. He was always more hype than substance. When did he ever turn up against a top team?

Dominated Man City in that game we wanted to lose so the shite didn't win the title. Not just the amazing goal but ran the midfield that day.

Also played very well against City in the cup semi at the Etihad.

Put in some strong displays against Arsenal, home and away.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Ross on March 05, 2018, 05:18:55 AM
What is so good about Barkley though? I honestly haven't given him a second thought since he scored against Watford last year. Take your blue tinted specs off for a minute. He was always more hype than substance. When did he ever turn up against a top team?

Yeah youíre right he was awful thinking about it.

Thank god we got shut of him and bought Sigurdsson itís improved us no end.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Brownie on March 05, 2018, 05:24:18 AM
Dominated Man City in that game we wanted to lose so the shite didn't win the title. Not just the amazing goal but ran the midfield that day.

Also played very well against City in the cup semi at the Etihad.

Put in some strong displays against Arsenal, home and away.

In that away semi he played well up until his goal then like the rest of the team we were blown away.

I didn't watch the game against City after he scored the wonder goal so can't comment. The 3-0 Arsenal game he played well as did the whole team.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: gizzblue on March 05, 2018, 05:26:17 AM
Dominated Man City in that game we wanted to lose so the shite didn't win the title. Not just the amazing goal but ran the midfield that day.

Also played very well against City in the cup semi at the Etihad.

Put in some strong displays against Arsenal, home and away.
So four games in as many years 😅😅.. dont forget that 45 mins against Newcastle once.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Brownie on March 05, 2018, 05:26:43 AM
Yeah youíre right he was awful thinking about it.

Thank god we got shut of him and bought Sigurdsson itís improved us no end.

So, you revert to sarcasm rather than engage in reasoned debate? I have a different opinion of Barkley than you but I respect that you feel differently. I just don't think that the over-hyped, shit house is a big miss.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Jamokachi on March 05, 2018, 05:28:48 AM
Player leaves club, instantly derided by fans. What a shocker.

Barkley is a good player, and we would be better off with him. Is he better than Gylfi? At the moment probably not. Does that make hima bad player? Not at all.

Far too much hyperbole going on in this thread.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Shogun on March 05, 2018, 05:30:03 AM
I still think Barkley is a very good player though that hamstring injury will ruin him. Looked like a major operation he went under and itís already come back to give him problems.

I wasnít a fan of Sigurdsson that much before he came heís really settled in recent months.

Incredibly hard working.
Very strong on the ball.
Can unleash a hell of a shot.
Those free kicks in the centre (near enough) from 30+ yards that heís bends into the area, thereís nobody better.
Super-composed.

Itís a shame he doesnít have more of an eye for a pass (though look at his role in the goal v Burnley) but thatís the only criticism.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Brownie on March 05, 2018, 05:31:29 AM
Player leaves club, instantly derided by fans. What a shocker.

Barkley is a good player, and we would be better off with him. Is he better than Gylfi? At the moment probably not. Does that make hima bad player? Not at all.

Far too much hyperbole going on in this thread.

Got nothing to do with him leaving for me at all. He was good at times but nothing more in my humble. Like I've said I've not list any sleep about him going
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Jamokachi on March 05, 2018, 05:37:58 AM
Got nothing to do with him leaving for me at all. He was good at times but nothing more in my humble. Like I've said I've not list any sleep about him going

You're more of the level headed ones around here, the comment wasn't really directed at you. And I don't think anyone has lost any sleep, lets be fair.

The lad was a good player for us, that can't be denied.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Brownie on March 05, 2018, 05:41:17 AM
You're more of the level headed ones around here, the comment wasn't really directed at you. And I don't think anyone has lost any sleep, lets be fair.

The lad was a good player for us, that can't be denied.

We all wanted him to be great, and those flashes like Newcastle away, the free kick against Swansea gave us hope. But just looking back over his time with us he wasn't as good as we all hoped he would be. As I've said before, he's one of those who needs things to be going well for him and doesn't appear to have the mental strength when things go wrong.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Ross on March 05, 2018, 05:41:40 AM
So, you revert to sarcasm rather than engage in reasoned debate? I have a different opinion of Barkley than you but I respect that you feel differently. I just don't think that the over-hyped, shit house is a big miss.

ďShit houseĒ?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Brownie on March 05, 2018, 05:46:18 AM
ďShit houseĒ?

It was an attempt at humour as a number on here feel that is what he is for the way he left.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Ross on March 05, 2018, 05:53:24 AM
It was an attempt at humour as a number on here feel that is what he is for the way he left.

Seriously you donít think weíd be better with him in our team?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Brownie on March 05, 2018, 05:56:39 AM
Seriously you donít think weíd be better with him in our team?

Like I said difficult to say for me. Haven't seen him play for the best part of a year. I don't think he's ever going to be the player we hoped. The team is a mess at the moment too - can you imagine a lie on confidence, returning from injury Barkley in this team? I'd fear for him mentally.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: TheRam on March 05, 2018, 09:12:00 AM
Seriously you donít think weíd be better with him in our team?

What is he giving us that Sigurdsson doesn't give us already?

Maybe an ability to dribble past a player, but apart from that there's not much else.

Sigurdsson gives you a base level of performance that never drops below 6/10 and can go out there and perform the task given to him by the manager to a very good standard. Barkley is a luxury player who seems to have to get carried by everyone else on the pitch.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Confucius on March 05, 2018, 12:13:21 PM
Let's remember how great Barkley was for us... wait, I can't. Don't think he ever put in one full 90 minutes together let alone a few games in a row. Would do something amazing one week and then be total crap for 10. Just doesn't have the mentality for him. A very good Sports Psychologist would help him no end.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: sirblue57 on March 05, 2018, 12:53:22 PM
Barkley has talent, there's no issue with that.
His mental strength is questionable, I hate saying this, but he never controlled a game the way Gerrard did, was never as consistent, I remember Rooney coming through and being far more of a driving consistant force for us.
Barkley believed he was as good  therein lies his problem, he never actually showed it enough.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Cereal Killer on March 05, 2018, 02:37:49 PM
Don't really get the 'would Barkley have improved us this season' - we had him half the season, he's been injured, he's still injured, so no, wouldn't have made a blind bit of difference. Might as well ask would Lukaku have improved us this season
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Gash on March 05, 2018, 04:59:54 PM
Even fit he wouldn't have improved us. He was never a player to step up when we weren't playing well and grab the game and players by the scruff of the neck and be a leader. He'd more than likely be wandering around with his head down and confidence shot playing in this team at the moment.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: blargins on March 05, 2018, 05:55:10 PM
The only loss in losing Barkley was 15 million.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: bacon sarnie on March 05, 2018, 07:14:26 PM
The only loss in losing Barkley was 15 million.

And another homegrown talent. He may get a game when conte gets the boot.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: gizzblue on March 05, 2018, 07:20:38 PM
And another homegrown talent. He may get a game when conte gets the boot.
He will do really well on the Chelsea bench ....playing tiddlywinks with that led from Leicester who's name is also a distant memory now .
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: blargins on March 05, 2018, 07:51:32 PM
And another homegrown talent. He may get a game when conte gets the boot.
Itís whether he can produce the goods as to whether heíll stay in it though. Guess heís still young. He may turn into a consistent player as he ages but Iíve never been that enamoured about him.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: bacon sarnie on March 06, 2018, 02:12:43 AM
He will do really well on the Chelsea bench ....playing tiddlywinks with that led from Leicester who's name is also a distant memory now .

Frank Worthington?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: bacon sarnie on March 06, 2018, 02:14:10 AM
Itís whether he can produce the goods as to whether heíll stay in it though. Guess heís still young. He may turn into a consistent player as he ages but Iíve never been that enamoured about him.

Same here but its nice to have more than 'one of our own' in the squad. Too bad he's not Harry Kane.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: blargins on March 06, 2018, 02:21:12 AM
Same here but its nice to have more than 'one of our own' in the squad. Too bad he's not Harry Kane.

It seems our own are quote unloyal. We had hopes of him being the next Rooney, but he really has turned into the next Rodwell.

Spurs have been so lucky with Kane coming through their ranks. they wouldn't be where they are now without him. Having said that, I think it would be sad if this current Spurs team didn't win something, they've probably been the most consistent and together team in the prem over the past 3 years.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: stirlingblue on March 14, 2018, 04:25:07 AM
He will do really well on the Chelsea bench ....playing tiddlywinks with that led from Leicester who's name is also a distant memory now .

Thatís harsh, Drinkwater is contributing and getting game time
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: gizzblue on March 14, 2018, 04:33:20 AM
That's harsh, Drinkwater is contributing and getting game time
😅😅😅😅.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Brownie on April 06, 2018, 03:12:01 AM
£7m in agent's fees for this deal. Wonder what it would have been if he'd been sold in Sept?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Cozzie on April 06, 2018, 05:19:48 PM
In all honesty I had forgotten about him.

Agent fees are getting ridiculous though.

Read somewhere that Ellis short the Sunderland owner spent £4.3M on agents fees but only £1.25M on players.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Toffee1 on April 06, 2018, 05:23:42 PM
In all honesty I had forgotten about him.

Agent fees are getting ridiculous though.

Read somewhere that Ellis short the Sunderland owner spent £4.3M on agents fees but only £1.25M on players.

Wonder if Allardyce was in charge at the time and getting his slice of the pie?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on April 06, 2018, 10:48:34 PM
£7m in agent's fees for this deal. Wonder what it would have been if he'd been sold in Sept?

Theses fees are amazing. I could have sold Barkley to Chelsea. I could have sold pogba to Utd. What the fuck are the clubs paying for? Why are the clubs even paying a man that represents the player
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Major Clanger on April 08, 2018, 12:51:09 AM
Theses fees are amazing. I could have sold Barkley to Chelsea. I could have sold pogba to Utd. What the fuck are the clubs paying for? Why are the clubs even paying a man that represents the player

Well, in the Pogba to United case the answer is easy: the same agent was representing the seller and the buyer clubs as well.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: blargins on April 08, 2018, 01:20:50 AM
Well, in the Pogba to United case the answer is easy: the same agent was representing the seller and the buyer clubs as well.

Sounds like buying a house in France.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: blueToffee on April 09, 2018, 12:24:54 AM
Europa League for them almost certainly next year then.

I wonder if the next manager will play him.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Shogun on April 09, 2018, 12:47:29 AM
That scar looked pretty serious after he had surgery. Kept him out for six months and he's already been out with a hamstring injury since.

Wouldn't be surprised if it plagues his career.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: TheRam on April 09, 2018, 12:48:26 AM
That scar looked pretty serious after he had surgery. Kept him out for six months and he's already been out with a hamstring injury since.

Wouldn't be surprised if it plagues his career.

Let's hope so.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Brownie on April 09, 2018, 03:33:10 AM
That scar looked pretty serious after he had surgery. Kept him out for six months and he's already been out with a hamstring injury since.

Wouldn't be surprised if it plagues his career.

Done before he gets anywhere near 30 is my guess
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: blargins on April 09, 2018, 04:58:04 AM
Barkley and Rodwell are just a couple of the biggest earning failures in football.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: gizzblue on April 09, 2018, 05:06:45 AM
Barkley and Rodwell are just a couple of the biggest earning failures in football.
Could've would've should've at best them two.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Goaljira on April 09, 2018, 05:30:33 AM
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Cozzie on April 09, 2018, 04:28:51 PM
Said it for a while.

If he wasn't scouse or an Evertonian not many would care that much for him. The fact he was "one of our own" clouded many of his average performances for us.

A good goal against Newcastle and a brief purple patch in Martinez first season wasn't enough to convince me.

Hasn't got the mentality to be a top player, he will realise soon that the grass isn't always greener, as did Rodwell.

Only regret is that we never got £35M for him instead of £15M.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Brownie on April 09, 2018, 10:53:33 PM
Said it for a while.

If he wasn't scouse or an Evertonian not many would care that much for him. The fact he was "one of our own" clouded many of his average performances for us.

A good goal against Newcastle and a brief purple patch in Martinez first season wasn't enough to convince me.

Hasn't got the mentality to be a top player, he will realise soon that the grass isn't always greener, as did Rodwell.

Only regret is that we never got £35M for him instead of £15M.

Pretty much my thoughts on it
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: D15TIN on April 10, 2018, 02:17:53 AM
Walks straight into our XI still though
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Shogun on April 10, 2018, 02:25:31 AM
Walks straight into our XI still though

Limps
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: mikey_blue on May 04, 2018, 05:37:49 AM
https://twitter.com/jakelawless_/status/992133004540686336?s=21

Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 07, 2018, 02:16:49 AM
Wonder if he's regretting it yet? Really don't see how he ever plays over hazard or willian and if they sell 1 of them surely they'd buy a replacement. They aren't even giving him a few minutes off the bench
Have to admit I'm quite enjoying it
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Gash on May 07, 2018, 02:27:26 AM
Just coming back from injury isn't he?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Brownie on May 07, 2018, 02:30:35 AM
Wonder if he's regretting it yet? Really don't see how he ever plays over hazard or willian and if they sell 1 of them surely they'd buy a replacement. They aren't even giving him a few minutes off the bench
Have to admit I'm quite enjoying it

He's injured again that's why
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 07, 2018, 02:34:55 AM
Just coming back from injury isn't he?

He is but the fact they arenít even giving him the last few minutes even when games are won surely doesnít bode well.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 07, 2018, 02:35:20 AM
He's injured again that's why

He was on the bench today. Has been the last few
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Gash on May 07, 2018, 02:37:20 AM
He is but the fact they arenít even giving him the last few minutes even when games are won surely doesnít bode well.

I don't know how long he's been back and on the bench but they've not had many games recently that have been won to give him a chance to come on.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 07, 2018, 02:39:26 AM
I don't know how long he's been back and on the bench but they've not had many games recently that have been won to give him a chance to come on.

Iím pretty sure itís at least 3 now where heís been an unused sub. I think his best chance is a change of manager. Not sure conte is overly keen
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Brownie on May 07, 2018, 02:40:58 AM
He was on the bench today. Has been the last few

Was he? My apologies. I didn't watch the game. I thought he was still injured from the other week.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: TheRam on May 07, 2018, 03:21:59 AM
I don't think he's been injured for a while
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: blueToffee on May 07, 2018, 04:03:25 AM
Whether he's injured or not, it seems pretty clear Conte isn't his biggest fan. Although, Conte at the time wasn't overly keen on Giroud coming in either but he's getting games now. Next season probably make or break for Barkley there. If Conte leaves then the window opens even more you'd suspect.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 07, 2018, 04:05:58 AM
Unused sub in the last 4 games apparently

5 actually the article was written before todayís game
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Brownie on May 07, 2018, 04:31:42 AM
Unused sub in the last 4 games apparently

5 actually the article was written before todayís game

Where the fuck have I been then? I genuinely thought I'd read he'd had a reoccurrence of his hamstring injury and was done for weeks
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 07, 2018, 04:57:42 AM
Where the fuck have I been then? I genuinely thought I'd read he'd had a reoccurrence of his hamstring injury and was done for weeks

He definitely got injured again but been back a few weeks now. I like to check heís not playing. Got to get my pleasure somewhere with this miserable season. No doubt heíll score the winner in the cup final though just to spoil it
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Brownie on May 07, 2018, 04:58:32 AM
He definitely got injured again but been back a few weeks now. I like to check heís not playing. Got to get my pleasure somewhere with this miserable season. No doubt heíll score the winner in the cup final though just to spoil it

I've lost so much interest in football in general this last year
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 07, 2018, 05:05:59 AM
I've lost so much interest in football in general this last year

Me too. Iíve missed the last few Everton games but I doubt Iíve watched a full 90 of anyone else this season.
Iím not sure Iím gonna get it back either now. Even a good Everton donít compete for titles and probably donít even compete for top 4
It just seems that all over Europe itís a closed shop. Seeing the same teams doing well year after year isnít interesting.

Love Everton but Iím not sure I much like football anymore
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Brownie on May 07, 2018, 05:07:59 AM
Me too. Iíve missed the last few Everton games but I doubt Iíve watched a full 90 of anyone else this season.
Iím not sure Iím gonna get it back either now. Even a good Everton donít compete for titles and probably donít even compete for top 4
It just seems that all over Europe itís a closed shop. Seeing the same teams doing well year after year isnít interesting.

Love Everton but Iím not sure I much like football anymore

Yeah, I'm just glad I've got my love of rugby too. Otherwise I'd well disillusioned with sport
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Cereal Killer on May 07, 2018, 05:13:26 AM
It just seems that all over Europe itís a closed shop. Seeing the same teams doing well year after year isnít interesting.

Hasn't that been the goal for ages though? Then can push through the 'super league' as the domestic leagues are no longer challenging etc etc, with games around the world, all in the name of money
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: TheRam on May 07, 2018, 05:15:07 AM
Can we save the melodramatism for the Everton forum aye?

Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: blargins on May 07, 2018, 07:07:27 PM
When the final day of the season is focused on who will finish in the top 3rd, 4th and 5th (which are technically loser positions), and a couple of real loser positions, ie relegation, you know it's been a poor season.

Zero excitement this year, just glad it's over and no more football til August. Think we need a break.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Alanvideo on May 07, 2018, 07:36:22 PM
When the final day of the season is focused on who will finish in the top 3rd, 4th and 5th (which are technically loser positions), and a couple of real loser positions, ie relegation, you know it's been a poor season.

Zero excitement this year, just glad it's over and no more football til August. Think we need a break.
.................Not long to wait ,transfer window closes 5 pm on Thursday August 9th.
                             First games 11/12th  August.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Shogun on May 07, 2018, 07:57:32 PM
When the final day of the season is focused on who will finish in the top 3rd, 4th and 5th (which are technically loser positions), and a couple of real loser positions, ie relegation, you know it's been a poor season.

Zero excitement this year, just glad it's over and no more football til August. Think we need a break.

So it’s only exciting if it’s a title on the line?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: blargins on May 07, 2018, 08:02:47 PM
So itís only exciting if itís a title on the line?

Pretty much. The rest is nothing really. Who remembers the teams coming anything other than first?

That's why it's so sad the FA cup final is so devalued now, because it had that big rush. Even the neutrals would get in on it.

Nothing will ever be able to top the final seconds of that season when Arsenal beat the shite 2-0 at Anfield to win the title though. That was the ultimate.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: TheRam on May 07, 2018, 08:46:29 PM
I enjoy a good relegation last day saga.

The race for 4th can fuck off though. No one is actually arsed.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Bob Sacamano on May 07, 2018, 11:22:33 PM
I enjoy a good relegation last day saga.

The race for 4th can fuck off though. No one is actually arsed.

Haha. Was just thinking the exact same. Like I reckon only Arsenal and Spurs fans will care which ends up in the top 4.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 07, 2018, 11:23:32 PM
Haha. Was just thinking the exact same. Like I reckon only Arsenal and Spurs fans will care which ends up in the top 4.
Will genuinely laugh if Liverpool don't get top 4 after all their fans yday saying so what we lost, we have bigger fish to fry
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Nicco on May 08, 2018, 12:24:02 AM
When the final day of the season is focused on who will finish in the top 3rd, 4th and 5th (which are technically loser positions), and a couple of real loser positions, ie relegation, you know it's been a poor season.

Zero excitement this year, just glad it's over and no more football til August. Think we need a break.
Yeah, fuck the WC
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 08, 2018, 12:43:01 AM
Will genuinely laugh if Liverpool don't get top 4 after all their fans yday saying so what we lost, we have bigger fish to fry

Be brilliant if they ended the season with fuck all. We all know we arenít that lucky though
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: blargins on May 08, 2018, 12:50:08 AM
Yeah, fuck the WC

You got that right. Fuck it :)
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Goaljira on May 09, 2018, 05:44:20 AM
Will genuinely laugh if Liverpool don't get top 4 after all their fans yday saying so what we lost, we have bigger fish to fry

You know if they finished 5th theyd end up just winning it anyway, so it'd be more funny for me for Spurs to fail to get it.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: GLewis on May 13, 2018, 09:07:02 PM
Playing today.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 13, 2018, 10:17:12 PM
Playing today.

Getting slaughtered on Twitter. Apparently heís not doing very well
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Alanvideo on May 13, 2018, 10:24:39 PM
Getting slaughtered on Twitter. Apparently he’s not doing very well
.................3-0 down ,the Barkley effect
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: GLewis on May 13, 2018, 10:29:11 PM
Getting slaughtered on Twitter. Apparently heís not doing very well

Only saw the first half.

Was poor as the rest of the Chelsea team.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Brownie on May 13, 2018, 11:43:23 PM
Getting slaughtered on Twitter. Apparently heís not doing very well

Get Jags to give him a call and make him feel better
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Alanvideo on May 14, 2018, 01:40:41 AM
Barkley was shown scratching his head on SSN ,maybe he got a splinter.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Ramjam on May 14, 2018, 06:18:19 AM
Barkley was shown scratching his head on SSN ,maybe he got a splinter.
Or maybe heís just realised what a fucking bad decision heís made regarding his career
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: gizzblue on May 16, 2018, 02:19:09 AM
Was his usual self tbh...tried lots not much came off and missed an easy chance .
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: blargins on May 16, 2018, 03:41:25 AM
It's quite ironic that we sold him for just 15 million, but it now feels like we fleeced them.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: GLewis on May 20, 2018, 01:15:29 AM
Cup winners medal...
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Cereal Killer on May 20, 2018, 01:23:16 AM
Cup winners medal...

More than Lukaku's got...
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Alanvideo on May 20, 2018, 01:46:04 AM
Cup winners medal...
....................faultless performance    8)
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 20, 2018, 02:43:50 AM
Did he play at all in the cup? Think I'd be inclined to give it to someone who contributed in an earlier round if I were him
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on May 20, 2018, 03:26:57 AM
Did he play at all in the cup? Think I'd be inclined to give it to someone who contributed in an earlier round if I were him

yep someone like Andreas Christensen  deserved it
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Brownie on May 20, 2018, 07:28:50 PM
Did he play at all in the cup? Think I'd be inclined to give it to someone who contributed in an earlier round if I were him

17 mins in Round 4. He's went full on John Terry in the final
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 20, 2018, 07:40:33 PM
to be honest, im a little embarrassed for him. That photo he put on instagram is full on embarrasing.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Ramjam on May 20, 2018, 07:41:56 PM
to be honest, im a little embarrassed for him. That photo he put on instagram is full on embarrasing.
Donít tell me heís got a photo with the FA cup and a medal
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: blargins on May 20, 2018, 07:53:28 PM
Is it a participation medal he got?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Brownie on May 20, 2018, 07:54:33 PM
Is it a participation medal he got?

We all know what that leads to
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 20, 2018, 07:56:34 PM
In his defence he does look pretty embarrassed at the start of the celebration video.
Getting ripped apart of twitter though. Heís becoming a bit of a joke
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 20, 2018, 07:56:36 PM
Donít tell me heís got a photo with the FA cup and a medal

https://twitter.com/thatsagoal/status/998120578656686081
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: TheRam on May 20, 2018, 09:33:21 PM
Shame what's happening to him really.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: 74Blue on May 20, 2018, 09:36:13 PM
https://twitter.com/thatsagoal/status/998120578656686081
That's almost as shameless as Sam Allardyce claiming the credit for the win against West Ham in Unsworth's last game in charge.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: blargins on May 21, 2018, 01:02:56 AM
Shame what's happening to him really.
The season was always going to be a write off for him. Out for so long heís going to need a pre season to get back to proper fitness and eventually form.

I expect heíll get another season at Chelsea and then be sold to a club around our level. Maybe even us.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Brownie on May 21, 2018, 02:18:36 AM
The season was always going to be a write off for him. Out for so long heís going to need a pre season to get back to proper fitness and eventually form.

I expect heíll get another season at Chelsea and then be sold to a club around our level. Maybe even us.

Wouldn't have him back
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 21, 2018, 02:22:02 AM
So now he is supposed to not celebrate winning a cup? Even as a sub?
I hope there's no one on here who has won a cup and been a sub and celebrated... Shame on you.

I was meant to play today, would have been my first game in this cup but couldn't. They won, I celebrated with them as if I played

Bar the drinking out the cup and getting leathered bit like!!!
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 21, 2018, 02:56:26 AM
So now he is supposed to not celebrate winning a cup? Even as a sub?
I hope there's no one on here who has won a cup and been a sub and celebrated... Shame on you.

I was meant to play today, would have been my first game in this cup but couldn't. They won, I celebrated with them as if I played

Bar the drinking out the cup and getting leathered bit like!!!

I don't think it's the celebrating with his mates. Its pics with the cup in full kit. It kind of implies he played a bigger role than he actually did.
Anyways it's not that he's done a bad thing. He's just become a figure of fun and people are enjoying it
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Brownie on May 21, 2018, 03:03:05 AM
So now he is supposed to not celebrate winning a cup? Even as a sub?
I hope there's no one on here who has won a cup and been a sub and celebrated... Shame on you.

I was meant to play today, would have been my first game in this cup but couldn't. They won, I celebrated with them as if I played

Bar the drinking out the cup and getting leathered bit like!!!

I didn't get a trophy in one of our cup wins as I hadn't come off the bench ☹️
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 21, 2018, 03:06:29 AM
I don't think it's the celebrating with his mates. Its pics with the cup in full kit. It kind of implies he played a bigger role than he actually did.
Anyways it's not that he's done a bad thing. He's just become a figure of fun and people are enjoying it
But he was on the bench. Should he sit there without his kit on? It's not like he came out the crowd like Terry
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 21, 2018, 03:06:48 AM
I didn't get a trophy in one of our cup wins as I hadn't come off the bench
Only time I didn't get one was for being sent off
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 21, 2018, 03:16:27 AM
But he was on the bench. Should he sit there without his kit on? It's not like he came out the crowd like Terry

Surely heíd have something over his kit?
I donít think itís really about shouldnít or morality. People are just having a laugh at his expensive. Been going on since his move. With Everton fans and a wider audience. Will continue until he makes contributions.

Itís like the Kane thing. No one actually really cares. Itís just something to take the piss out of
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: velimski on May 21, 2018, 03:25:54 AM
Hardly done a 'John Terry' has he.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: themilkycoffees on May 21, 2018, 03:29:44 AM
Bit embarrassing this. He was on the bench, in full kit, so why shouldn't he get a photo in his kit? He's moved on and we should too.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: SANA_DR0 on May 21, 2018, 05:22:07 PM
Ross 5 years at Everton, no trophy, no anything... 6 months at Chelsea, got injured.. got hammered against Newcastle (the only match he started) on the subs bench in the fa cup final.. wins medal.

fair play to him really, lots of Everton fans where on his back when he was at Everton... i hate that he's a Chelsea, but least he's won something.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 21, 2018, 06:26:25 PM
Ross 5 years at Everton, no trophy, no anything... 6 months at Chelsea, got injured.. got hammered against Newcastle (the only match he started) on the subs bench in the fa cup final.. wins medal.

fair play to him really, lots of Everton fans where on his back when he was at Everton... i hate that he's a Chelsea, but least he's won something.

Surely he won't be thinking he's won the fa cup. No one's that unaware. Chelsea is a great move for him if he gets in the team and contributes. Can't be daft enough to be thinking it's gone well so far though can he
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Ramjam on May 21, 2018, 06:28:08 PM
Ross 5 years at Everton, no trophy, no anything... 6 months at Chelsea, got injured.. got hammered against Newcastle (the only match he started) on the subs bench in the fa cup final.. wins medal.

fair play to him really, lots of Everton fans where on his back when he was at Everton... i hate that he's a Chelsea, but least he's won something.
An extremely hollow victory for him. He contributed fuck all for them, Chelsea fans want us to take him back for free.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: blargins on May 21, 2018, 06:37:40 PM
It must make the Chelsea players who actually worked for their victory annoyed too. I mean, they've put all the work and effort in and someone who has done nothing gets the same reward as them.

Didn't it used to be only those who contributed and played got a medal?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 21, 2018, 06:48:34 PM
It must make the Chelsea players who actually worked for their victory annoyed too. I mean, they've put all the work and effort in and someone who has done nothing gets the same reward as them.

Didn't it used to be only those who contributed and played got a medal?
Am sure if you are in the matchday squad you get a medal
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Gash on May 21, 2018, 07:09:32 PM
Ross 5 years at Everton, no trophy, no anything... 6 months at Chelsea, got injured.. got hammered against Newcastle (the only match he started) on the subs bench in the fa cup final.. wins medal.

fair play to him really, lots of Everton fans where on his back when he was at Everton... i hate that he's a Chelsea, but least he's won something.

I don't think he'll feel he's won something. He looked extremely uncomfortable in the video Chelsea released of the players celebrating in the changing rooms. I don't agree he's "done a John Terry" but right now this medal has become more a monkey on his back rather than something to celebrate and even when the pisstaking dies down I don't think he'll look back and feel it's any sort of achievement.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: SANA_DR0 on May 21, 2018, 07:15:11 PM
i understand its not something to be proud of,maybe  he will contribute more next season, or be sold back to us :D

but if thats the only medal he ever wins.. thats still pretty good. (even if he didnt get to kick a ball)

Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: SANA_DR0 on May 21, 2018, 07:15:59 PM
It must make the Chelsea players who actually worked for their victory annoyed too. I mean, they've put all the work and effort in and someone who has done nothing gets the same reward as them.

Didn't it used to be only those who contributed and played got a medal?

i agree with this, but he still got a medal.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Cereal Killer on May 21, 2018, 07:22:52 PM
i agree with this, but he still got a medal.

Yeah but he won't be in the Champions League, so it's a bit meaningless  ;)
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: SANA_DR0 on May 21, 2018, 07:53:46 PM
Yeah but he won't be in the Champions League, so it's a bit meaningless  ;)

when has a medal been meaningless? and whats winning the fa cup got to do with the CL? i said in the other thread that MANUTD had a better season.

if he had stayed at  Everton, he wouldnt have been in Europe at all,or got a winners medal.. he might not have got injured tho..

but your post is what i meant originally,some Evertonians are bitter,he knew we weren't pushing on, he didnt want to stagnate even more,, when he knew he could be in a squad that wins things.. fairplay to him really.

its kinda what Rooney did.. but like x1000 times less.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: TheRam on May 21, 2018, 08:04:05 PM
It's a good picture for Instagram.

That's all he seems to care about these days.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: SANA_DR0 on May 21, 2018, 08:50:33 PM
It's a good picture for Instagram.

That's all he seems to care about these days.

its what normal folk care about also.

glad i dont have insta. or any of those shitty things that people use to take pics then put filters on..
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Gash on May 22, 2018, 01:54:54 AM
i understand its not something to be proud of,maybe  he will contribute more next season, or be sold back to us :D

but if thats the only medal he ever wins.. thats still pretty good. (even if he didnt get to kick a ball)



If that's the only medal he wins it will be a massively underwhelming career for someone once touted as the future of English football. I reckon he'd be more than slightly disappointed if that turns out to be his only medal.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: SANA_DR0 on May 22, 2018, 06:46:50 AM
If that's the only medal he wins it will be a massively underwhelming career for someone once touted as the future of English football. I reckon he'd be more than slightly disappointed if that turns out to be his only medal.

probably will be the only medal he wins, but one in 6 months from a move from his home town club... be awesome if he didnt win any others until he came back to us :D hopefully we get him before he's 30+

 but the  touting wasnt his fault, we go crazy for any sort of player with skill (english press/media in general)

he still has atleast 7 years to go.. i dont mind him being succesful for another club, just a shame we had Koeman and Sam here and played anti football.

Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Toddacelli on June 19, 2018, 02:42:22 PM
We had hopes of him being the next Rooney, but he really has turned into the next Rodwell.

Sums it up perfectly.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Toffee_4_Life on July 24, 2018, 12:59:32 AM
Played really well today in the 4-3-3 under a new coach.

Be gutted if he turns into anything close to the player we all thought he could be and we only got £15 million for him!!
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Major Clanger on July 24, 2018, 02:04:09 AM
Played really well today in the 4-3-3 under a new coach.

Be gutted if he turns into anything close to the player we all thought he could be and we only got £15 million for him!!

He'll turn into whatever he'll turn into.

It's not like we've had much of a choice in the matter.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: gizzblue on July 24, 2018, 02:47:59 AM
Played really well today in the 4-3-3 under a new coach.

Be gutted if he turns into anything close to the player we all thought he could be and we only got £15 million for him!!

Didn't Chelsea just buy another attacking midfielder of the managers choice ? ....don't see Ross getting much time off his favorite bench seat tbh ...Drinkwater may though .
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Ramjam on July 24, 2018, 02:50:08 AM
He played against Perth ffs
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Macca77 on July 24, 2018, 02:55:37 AM
Played well in a pre season game, just like Besic
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Ramjam on July 24, 2018, 04:51:43 AM
Iím sure Besic played against better opposition than Barkley did, but hi, if Barkley had a good game against the equivalent of a second division team, thatís great🤣🤣
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Everton Mint on August 02, 2018, 03:19:48 AM
Playing tonight vs Arsenal and seems he's been finally drilled into just taking only one or two touches and then passing.

He clearly has natural ability and if a manager and team-mates can get it out of him he could still be a top player.

I still doubt him mentally though. He just doesnt have that fight and will to win.

Stream https://www.vipleague.lc/1-arsenal-vs-chelsea-fc-live-streaming
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Shogun on September 16, 2018, 06:25:15 AM
Kovacic looked class in the highlights today, canít see him every getting a starting place in this side.

Will be battling it out for the substitute role with Loftus-Cheek this season.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Jamokachi on September 16, 2018, 06:45:36 AM
Kovacic looked class in the highlights today, canít see him every getting a starting place in this side.

Will be battling it out for the substitute role with Loftus-Cheek this season.

Looked decent when he came on. Seemed to have a deeper role. Sprayed some good passes about.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: TheRam on September 16, 2018, 06:54:17 AM
Finding myself wanting him to do well now.

Getting a good amount of game time and with kovavic there he should learn a lot about how to become a better player in that role.

Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Shogun on September 16, 2018, 07:03:33 AM
Finding myself wanting him to do well now.


Why? He shit all over us
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Jamokachi on September 16, 2018, 10:19:46 AM
Why? He shit all over us

There's always too sides to a story. Life's too short for grudges.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: gizzblue on September 27, 2018, 09:39:20 PM
Truly shit again last night ...kept taking way to many touches and then giving the ball away ....so he's exactly the same player ,appears to have learned fuck all so far .

Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Jamokachi on September 28, 2018, 04:00:46 AM
I've read plenty of comments saying he played well.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: blueToffee on September 28, 2018, 04:09:04 AM
I've read plenty of comments saying he played well.

He was involved in the goal at least. Also though I think he was lucky his headed backpass didn't lead to a Liverpool goal, so maybe that evens out.

He contributed but not in a particularly confident way, just kept the ball moving. He's still missing that drive from midfield that he used to have...perhaps he leaves that to Hazard though now.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Shogun on September 28, 2018, 04:25:51 AM
He was involved in the goal at least. Also though I think he was lucky his headed backpass didn't lead to a Liverpool goal, so maybe that evens out.

He contributed but not in a particularly confident way, just kept the ball moving. He's still missing that drive from midfield that he used to have...perhaps he leaves that to Hazard though now.

Hamstring won't let him do that anymore imo.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Jimmywhack on September 28, 2018, 05:14:56 AM
I've read plenty of comments saying he played well.
Watched him a few times this year and he's looked decent
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: gizzblue on September 28, 2018, 05:53:12 AM
It appears he was the worst Chelsea player last night  :thumbsup:...some still wearing blue tinted glasses here.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Shogun on September 28, 2018, 07:21:26 AM
After watching Fabregas in that match then he's probably been knocked down to fifth choice midfielder now.

He's better playing off the wing anyway in my opinion.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: blueToffee on September 28, 2018, 08:37:05 AM
One silver lining for him - at least heís felt what itís like to beat Liverpool I suppose.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: blueToffee on September 28, 2018, 08:38:15 AM
Hamstring won't let him do that anymore imo.

He kinda stopped doing it before that though. Seemed like a coaching issue. Donít know though, maybe it was that bad...would be a shame to have lost that element.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Cereal Killer on September 28, 2018, 01:21:05 PM
He'll be in the next England squad

More just because he's played some games, rather than he's actually played well

RLC hasn't particularly had a sniff of game time
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: gizzblue on September 28, 2018, 08:08:00 PM
Starting to think the FA only have a pool of the top six benches these days ....thought Southgate was gonna be different ,but took no time at all to revert to type .

Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: School of Science on September 28, 2018, 08:57:39 PM
Watching him the other night, just seems to play within himself, play safe hasn't really moved on from his early days at Everton. Still loses the ball in dangerous area's, almost cost Chelsea two late goals against the shite. But Sarri seems to rate him enough to play him and that is all that matters.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: stirlingblue on September 29, 2018, 02:21:36 AM
Watching him the other night, just seems to play within himself, play safe hasn't really moved on from his early days at Everton. Still loses the ball in dangerous area's, almost cost Chelsea two late goals against the shite. But Sarri seems to rate him enough to play him and that is all that matters.

You see flashes of the old Barkley when heís put under pressure and canít take the safe option.

Iíve seen him a few times escape the original press and then when heís got momentum go on to glide past a few more players but for some reason he canít initiate it himself when heís got time.

Definitely still a player in there if he gets over that mental hurdle, as much as I dislike the way he left thereís a real lack of CM talent for England so I hope he does come good.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Cassius on September 29, 2018, 07:29:35 PM
Starting to think the FA only have a pool of the top six benches these days ....thought Southgate was gonna be different ,but took no time at all to revert to type .



Is this comment based on someone speculating that he'll be called up by England because he's played some games?
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: gizzblue on September 29, 2018, 07:36:32 PM
Is this comment based on someone speculating that he'll be called up by England because he's played some games?

Yeah ...I was meant to quote the above post . :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Cereal Killer on October 04, 2018, 08:36:19 PM
He'll be in the next England squad

More just because he's played some games, rather than he's actually played well

RLC hasn't particularly had a sniff of game time

 :whistle:
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2018, 02:21:18 AM
Gets sent out for the press conference.

Is on the bench with RLC and Fabregas in the starting XI... (and Kovacic)
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: gizzblue on October 07, 2018, 09:54:56 PM
Played well today ...assist and a goal albeit of his shin ...they all count .
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: School of Science on October 07, 2018, 09:58:06 PM
Yes played well today probably his best game for them.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: blueToffee on October 07, 2018, 10:11:24 PM
Yeah, was a decent game from him today. I don't think it was any better than his better days for us, but the difference is if he does it in a Chelsea shirt that means an England call up :)

Chelsea looking good.
Title: Re: Ross Barkley Chelsea Debut
Post by: Fynci on October 13, 2018, 02:48:51 AM
2 years since his last England call up, wonder how many more before his next?


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