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Title: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: gizzblue on February 02, 2018, 06:50:03 AM
So what's the deal ,why is Sams alleged highly coveted striker been  benched for Oumar ?.

Only crystal ballers and complete bullshit answers please .

Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Gash on February 02, 2018, 07:02:20 AM
So what's the deal ,why is Sams alleged highly coveted striker been  benched for Oumar ?.

Only crystal ballers and complete bullshit answers please .



Would you like this moved into the Everton forum?
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: gizzblue on February 02, 2018, 07:14:37 AM
Would you like this moved into the Everton forum?
Thanks Gash
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: blueToffee on February 02, 2018, 08:10:13 AM
I feel like this should be in the Feedback and Suggestions forum. Can you move it again..?
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Fynci on February 02, 2018, 09:59:18 AM
I feel like it should be on the Grand Old Team forum, can you move it there?
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Polledreng on February 02, 2018, 11:53:00 AM
And a player wanted by Napoli cant even make the bench. But then again we have quality like Morgan sitting there..
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Mick 1995 on February 02, 2018, 12:25:37 PM
Niasse scored in his last outing. He deserved a crack.

He fluffed his chance so I expect to see Tosun start against Arsenal
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Ramjam on February 02, 2018, 01:09:08 PM
Niasse scored in his last outing. He deserved a crack.

He fluffed his chance so I expect to see Tosun start against Arsenal
Probably not fair to ditch him for missing two chances as hes actually scored a few this season out of nothing. His persistence is something that very few strikers possess these days and he has bagfuls of it so I can see him bagging a few more
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Ell Capitan on February 02, 2018, 01:10:19 PM
Made the first goal against West Ham.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: School of Science on February 02, 2018, 01:43:06 PM
 Our shiny new highly rated signing Cenk to start and Niasse to come on late on because he is an excellent impact sub. Everton to then go on and win the league, Sam Allardyce to be knighted and political correctness to be given a back seat......Crystal ball ?????
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: brap2 on February 02, 2018, 01:44:59 PM
Made a good case for himself I thought.

Reckon Ill moan my socks off regardless of who starts on Saturday tbh.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Paddockoldie on February 02, 2018, 01:52:20 PM
I'm not saying it is, but it wouldn't be the first 27 million we've wasted on a player.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: brap2 on February 02, 2018, 01:57:18 PM
I'm not saying it is, but it wouldn't be the first 27 million we've wasted on a player.

In fact at this point its almost our modus operandi.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Waltzer on February 02, 2018, 02:06:31 PM
I dont see the problem, I think part of the reason we did so miserably at the begging of the season was down to the fact we didn't give players to opportunity to adjust or settle in. Coming from Turkey it probably wouldnt have been easy on, or off of the field. I wish we had these options with Klasseen and Sandro, rather than throwing them in straight off destroying their confidence then seemingly binning them after they didnt perform.

Hope Tosun turns out to be a good signing but the fee is immaterial, you need to be training and performing better than your competitors and maybe its taking him a bit of time to get up to speed?
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: brap2 on February 02, 2018, 02:28:58 PM
I dont see the problem, I think part of the reason we did so miserably at the begging of the season was down to the fact we didn't give players to opportunity to adjust or settle in. Coming from Turkey it probably wouldnt have been easy on, or off of the field. I wish we had these options with Klasseen and Sandro, rather than throwing them in straight off destroying their confidence then seemingly binning them after they didnt perform.

Hope Tosun turns out to be a good signing but the fee is immaterial, you need to be training and performing better than your competitors and maybe its taking him a bit of time to get up to speed?

Oh 100% hes only been here two mins like.

The worry is that we started from quite a low starting point with oumar and dom, nothing against either of them but most of the prem have a striker that would walk in over that and be able to either offer better hold up than Niasse or more of a threat than Dom, due to where they are in their own careers atm... unfortunately tosun has played in games where weve been crap, so hasnt had much of a chance to show us what hes got yet, and weve seen recent purchases get binned off for less!
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Waltzer on February 02, 2018, 02:39:23 PM
Oh 100% hes only been here two mins like.

The worry is that we started from quite a low starting point with oumar and dom, nothing against either of them but most of the prem have a striker that would walk in over that and be able to either offer better hold up than Niasse or more of a threat than Dom, due to where they are in their own careers atm... unfortunately tosun has played in games where weve been crap, so hasnt had much of a chance to show us what hes got yet, and weve seen recent purchases get binned off for less!

Id be amazed if he was binned, Sam went on about the importance of his first signing being a success, Tosun will be given every opportunity to succeed at least until the end of the season, and in to next if Sam  is still here!!?
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Mayor Farnum on February 02, 2018, 02:51:02 PM
Maybe he's just being saved for an away game that we won't have much possession so a more physical presence will be needed. However, he's not particularly big for a Premier League player.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Lxxx on February 02, 2018, 02:57:04 PM
Might just have been feeling a bit under the weather, coming from Turkey to Liverpool and it being fucking freezing n all that. I don't think it was anything more sinister than bedding him in.

Although I 100% don't agree with it as Niasse should never be starting a Premier League match, unless we're really desperate, as you can't build any kind of a platform with a guy who's running round like a headless chicken and not offering any structure to his play. He has a place and it's playing against tired defenders when we need a goal poacher or someone to make something happen, somehow.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: TheRam on February 02, 2018, 02:57:09 PM
Reckon you're all reading too much into him not playing on Wednesday.

He'll be starting tomorrow
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Macca77 on February 02, 2018, 03:48:55 PM
Tosun starts tomorrow
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: TheTone on February 02, 2018, 04:37:29 PM
he'll play when it warms up a bit like, whats the forecast for tomorrow?
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Rodenplav64 on February 02, 2018, 04:38:14 PM
I wish we could just fuck off the acclimatisation shite . The furthest point in Europe is about 4 hours these days . For me I would say we need to start creating more before we see Tosun contribute . Maybe the fact that Niasse chases down defenders and create space for Walcott is a short term tactic against certain teams . Certainly you need to press Leicester to stop them wafting it to Vardy and their defence never really got the ball down on the right . Long term we need a creative midfielder . Tosun just has a game we can't cater to at the minute .
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: blue1948 on February 02, 2018, 05:01:17 PM
I wish we could just fuck off the acclimatisation shite . The furthest point in Europe is about 4 hours these days . For me I would say we need to start creating more before we see Tosun contribute . Maybe the fact that Niasse chases down defenders and create space for Walcott is a short term tactic against certain teams . Certainly you need to press Leicester to stop them wafting it to Vardy and their defence never really got the ball down on the right . Long term we need a creative midfielder . Tosun just has a game we can't cater to at the minute .
Explanation needed .What on earth has time got to do with acclimatisation ?I would have thought it would have more to do with weather but hey ho who am I to question someone who obviously knows ! I thought the clue was in the word acclimatise .
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Paddockoldie on February 02, 2018, 05:18:54 PM
I think Niasse has more impact off the bench where his energy and running will do more damage as defenders tire. Tosun needs to play to adapt but also given time.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: plumber on February 02, 2018, 05:21:54 PM
Every genuine Everton fan should moan and slag off Fat Sam either way.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: gizzblue on February 02, 2018, 05:34:39 PM
I think Niasse has more impact off the bench where his energy and running will do more damage as defenders tire. Tosun needs to play to adapt but also given time.
This is my thinking he's only gonna improve if he plays on the rainy freezing nights ....and as much as possible .
And (as has been said )Niasse off the bench is deffo the way forward ....let DCL watch a bit.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: formerKHL on February 02, 2018, 07:59:01 PM
my only worry with cenk not playing the other night is he'd maybe thinking..

why the foook ham I seeting on benche..when dat uzerless roobishe is on pahrk.....
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: blueski on February 02, 2018, 08:08:10 PM
Start them both!

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Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: gizzblue on February 02, 2018, 08:32:54 PM
Start them both!

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If only, talk about the unknown commodity 😅😅...no one would have a clue what's gonna happen next ...including us .
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: formerKHL on February 02, 2018, 08:49:59 PM
including him...
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: civemark on February 02, 2018, 10:27:36 PM
Niasse has earned his chance
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: brap2 on February 02, 2018, 10:55:55 PM
Id be amazed if he was binned, Sam went on about the importance of his first signing being a success, Tosun will be given every opportunity to succeed at least until the end of the season, and in to next if Sam  is still here!!?

Prepare to be amazed
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: D15TIN on February 02, 2018, 11:07:39 PM
It worries me that people cant see the positive effect niasse brings to the team, yes he missed an easy chance on Wednesday (all do, he's actually a pretty good finisher in general), his persistence and workrate open up gaps for others to exploit, I wouldn't even sell him in the summer, for me he starts for the rest of the season whilst were in the position were in, he looks more of a threat than any of the other strikers.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: BlueMaquis on February 02, 2018, 11:20:00 PM
I wish we could just fuck off the acclimatisation shite . The furthest point in Europe is about 4 hours these days . For me I would say we need to start creating more before we see Tosun contribute . Maybe the fact that Niasse chases down defenders and create space for Walcott is a short term tactic against certain teams . Certainly you need to press Leicester to stop them wafting it to Vardy and their defence never really got the ball down on the right . Long term we need a creative midfielder . Tosun just has a game we can't cater to at the minute .

Agreed. The daily average and low for January between Istanbul and Liverpool differs by less than one degree celsius. Istanbul also gets more rain and snow.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: gizzblue on February 03, 2018, 12:53:21 AM
Think Tosun has been dipping his chips in Sam's personal gravy. ..if he doesn't start Satutday.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 03, 2018, 02:37:57 AM
Thought Cenk looked quite good against Spurs. Think he will prove a very good buy
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: brap2 on February 03, 2018, 04:38:03 AM
I liked him at spurs deffo and just in general you dont wanna not see your new striker! Hes. Twenty odd million pound man and he plays up front I wanna see him on the pitch bagging goals or at least the midfield setting him up chances before any negativity sets in.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: colin on February 03, 2018, 04:43:49 AM
I assumed he didn't play Wednesday because he was being saved for tomorrow so I'm expected Cenk to start with Niasse coming on later.  Tough to predict the lineup these days though.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 03, 2018, 04:49:33 AM
Think they should start Cenk and switch for Niasse for the final 20 and vice versa til they become superstars.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Danny on February 03, 2018, 05:19:36 AM
What's great about Niasse is when we signed him looking at his Youtube video everyone was saying he was scoring some quality goals but that a lot of them were scrappy and wouldn't happen in the prem, it turns out only the scrappy goals go in.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: brap2 on February 03, 2018, 05:23:32 AM
What's great about Niasse is when we signed him looking at his Youtube video everyone was saying he was scoring some quality goals but that a lot of them were scrappy and wouldn't happen in the prem, it turns out only the scrappy goals go in.

I think it must be a skill. Like that chance he had in the week where he made a one on one out of just running directly at someone - theyre supposed to be freaks them but his YouTube was full of them and hes buried about 4 of them this year.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: gizzblue on February 03, 2018, 06:11:52 AM
Its written In the stars for Niasse ...only they know what the fuck hes gonna do next ...even Nostrodamus was sctatching his head .
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Lxxx on February 03, 2018, 03:24:21 PM
I think it must be a skill. Like that chance he had in the week where he made a one on one out of just running directly at someone - theyre supposed to be freaks them but his YouTube was full of them and hes buried about 4 of them this year.

Its got to be an art, of sorts. I played centre half for years and Im trying to put myself in the position of facing a player who is unorthodox, direct, a pest, never stops running and is always trying to get in or around the danger areas.
I reckon hed be a nightmare as he doesnt make your usual runs, hed sometimes run straight through you than round you, and you can see why hes always making things happen for himself, even if he doesnt always have the quality to capitalise.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: loroloco on February 03, 2018, 04:13:42 PM
I liked him at spurs deffo and just in general you dont wanna not see your new striker! Hes. Twenty odd million pound man and he plays up front I wanna see him on the pitch bagging goals or at least the midfield setting him up chances before any negativity sets in.

i agree with you wholeheartedly. i just wish the same mentality had been applied to niasse. people slaughtered him before he even went off to hull, even though he had only played a few minutes for us. once the hatred sets in people cant see anything else. the stick niasse gets is completely out of step with the lads talent. hes clearly a baller, just unconventional. im not saying hes a world beater by any stretch but a great squad player imo. drop the hate and give both of them time i reckon. people seem to forget (intentionally i think) that niasse has only played in about 20 games for us. his goal per minute ratio is pretty good. i wish them both well.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: eugene on February 03, 2018, 04:31:00 PM
Every genuine Everton fan should moan and slag off Fat Sam either way.
No mate every Everton fan should get behind the team including the manager, we had a good win midweek had a decent January window and quite frankly defeatist overtones like yours are numbing.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Gash on February 03, 2018, 05:09:57 PM
i agree with you wholeheartedly. i just wish the same mentality had been applied to niasse. people slaughtered him before he even went off to hull, even though he had only played a few minutes for us. once the hatred sets in people cant see anything else. the stick niasse gets is completely out of step with the lads talent. hes clearly a baller, just unconventional. im not saying hes a world beater by any stretch but a great squad player imo. drop the hate and give both of them time i reckon. people seem to forget (intentionally i think) that niasse has only played in about 20 games for us. his goal per minute ratio is pretty good. i wish them both well.

I don't think anyone hates him it's just some rate him higher than others. Most people accept that he's got a great attitude and has held his dignity in very different circumstances and that's got as much to do with his popularity as anything he's done on the pitch. Personally I think he optimises where we are at the moment, ideally he wouldn't even be here never mind starting games but that's not his fault.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: dchans on February 03, 2018, 05:32:52 PM
Who gives a fuck - we won didn't we?!

Don't care if we playing Elvis and Santa up front as long as three points are in the sack come the end of 90 minutes
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 03, 2018, 05:42:02 PM
Who gives a fuck - we won didn't we?!

Don't care if we playing Elvis and Santa up front as long as three points are in the sack come the end of 90 minutes
An elvis related pun for points would have worked so much better
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: gizzblue on February 03, 2018, 07:22:05 PM
Looks like Niasse is leading our line from here on in as Sam and Walsh have made another Sandro of Cenk 👍well done everton ffs. ...either buy someone were gonna actually play or don't fucking bother ...useless bastards.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: plumber on February 03, 2018, 07:34:49 PM
Blaming Sam and Walsh at this stage is as much silly as writing off Tosun.
Calm down folks.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: BlueMaquis on February 03, 2018, 07:38:27 PM
An elvis related pun for points would have worked so much better

"A little less simulation, a little more action" is some advice Niasse could well heed.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: gizzblue on February 03, 2018, 07:46:28 PM
Blaming Sam and Walsh at this stage is as much silly as writing off Tosun.
Calm down folks.
There the ones who bought him and won't play him 😅
Havnt seen anyone write Cenk off only Sam saying Niasse(who he was gonna sell) is ahead in the pecking order .
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: plumber on February 03, 2018, 08:33:44 PM
There the ones who bought him and won't play him 😅
Havnt seen anyone write Cenk off only Sam saying Niasse(who he was gonna sell) is ahead in the pecking order .
It's the second game he's not starting ffs. You are a real stress head, aren't you.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: eugene on February 03, 2018, 08:36:24 PM
I recon Cenk has had more hair plugs done and has been given time off whilst they knit much the same as Rooney over Christmas
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: SANA_DR0 on February 03, 2018, 08:47:34 PM
should play them both, 2 up top, or Cenk and DCL, bringing Niasse on for whoever looks jaded.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Everton Mint on February 03, 2018, 09:48:24 PM
Niasse for me. He just has the intensity and work-rate we so badly need. That has to come before the unknown quantity of Tosun at the moment.

Niasse also also has a great goals:minutes ratio so that also counts. He could have had a couple of goals vs Leicester... he didnt but at least he was in positions to attempt them.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: gizzblue on February 03, 2018, 09:53:17 PM
It's the second game he's not starting ffs. You are a real stress head, aren't you.
Yeah its stressful being under the dinosaur cunt for sure .but in reality if Cenk was as good as they made out when buying him he'd be nailed on starting .no?.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Mayor Farnum on February 03, 2018, 10:21:02 PM
It's the second game he's not starting ffs. You are a real stress head, aren't you.

Two games plus a month of training sessions is why a small amount of concern can be forgiven.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: gizzblue on February 03, 2018, 11:25:30 PM
Two games plus a month of training sessions is why a small amount of concern can be forgiven.
But but but ...he was off for a full week before he signed ...and erm his dogs not well his cat has the runs ......erm cant acclimatise the air is thinner at mersey sea level .. ..erm erm.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Cereal Killer on February 04, 2018, 01:17:37 AM
should play them both, 2 up top, or Cenk and DCL, bringing Niasse on for whoever looks jaded.

Yes, Cenk and Niasse! Whys it need to be one or the other?

4-4-2 is the future.....
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: brap2 on February 04, 2018, 01:20:53 AM
Yes, Cenk and Niasse! Whys it need to be one or the other?

4-4-2 is the future.....

Havent got the midfield for it.

4-3-3 with the right mix and well be fine.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: gizzblue on February 04, 2018, 01:23:24 AM
Looks like we're gonna need to be more boring from here on in ....New formation of

        9 defensive







        1... Niasse because he's now          Pele
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: TheTone on February 04, 2018, 01:28:03 AM
Tosun, 12 mins of moaning and looking half arsed there
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Martip on February 04, 2018, 01:32:40 AM
Tosun, 12 mins of moaning and looking half arsed there
He won't be our main c.f. next year
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: montanatoffeefan on February 04, 2018, 01:35:48 AM
Our shiny new highly rated signing Cenk to start and Niasse to come on late on because he is an excellent impact sub. Everton to then go on and win the league, Sam Allardyce to be knighted and political correctness to be given a back seat......Crystal ball ?????

Or crystal meth....or crystal drain cleaner smoked with hash.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: montanatoffeefan on February 04, 2018, 01:38:46 AM
Tosun, 12 mins of moaning and looking half arsed there

So, he's fitting right in with his new teammates then.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Ramjam on February 04, 2018, 02:47:43 AM
Starting to throw his arms up already, think he watched to much of Lukaku when he was here
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: TheRam on February 04, 2018, 02:51:55 AM
Niasse was actually sound today.

Linked up as well as he's ever done.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Lxxx on February 04, 2018, 03:33:09 AM
He won't be our main c.f. next year

Hes not even our main centre forward this year.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Cozzie on February 04, 2018, 03:39:47 AM
He's had service to him that he's not held up and he's found it a struggle at this level because of the pace and the physicality of the game,

He hasn't looked bad from what I have seen in that regard so far and he couldn't have held it up against West Brom as we never even so much as targeted him.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Paddockoldie on February 04, 2018, 06:10:54 AM
We've bought a second class striker pure and simple. Funny how Aubameyang seems to have adapted quick enough. If that's what Walsh has searched the leagues of the world for then fuck him off now before he wastes more of our money.
Tosun won't adapt sat on his arse... do we not have coaches at the club??? Utter shite
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Ravardo on February 04, 2018, 06:33:37 AM
3 people outta the whole thread suggest playing 2 upfront...to me that makes complete sense and would also help tosun bed in and not look isolated/shite on his own,,if we actually play him that is
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Tony Clifton on February 04, 2018, 07:01:16 AM
3 people outta the whole thread suggest playing 2 upfront...to me that makes complete sense and would also help tosun bed in and not look isolated/shite on his own,,if we actually play him that is

I doubt he's ever going to "bed-in" now mate - the "manager" has just thrown him under his prehistoric bus.  He even reversed over him just to make sure.

Good luck back at Besiktas, Cenk!
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: School of Science on February 04, 2018, 11:12:53 AM
We've bought a second class striker pure and simple. Funny how Aubameyang seems to have adapted quick enough. If that's what Walsh has searched the leagues of the world for then fuck him off now before he wastes more of our money.
Tosun won't adapt sat on his arse... do we not have coaches at the club??? Utter shite

Submerging has better players around him, Sam left any semblance of attacking prowess or ambition on the bench.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 04, 2018, 02:16:51 PM
Genuinely amazed that Allardyce has said that

The West brom game was a fucking embarrassment, he barely had a touch let alone a chance to hold it up
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Everton Mint on February 04, 2018, 07:31:02 PM

Out: Lukaku 75m

In: Cenk 27m

'Nuff said.

Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: gizzblue on February 04, 2018, 07:42:49 PM
Out: Lukaku 75m

In: Cenk 27m

'Nuff said.
Not really nobody mentioned lukaku it's Niasse or Cenk ...one of which Sam wanted to sell the other he coveted allegedly then bought ....although it's difficult to tell now which is which of late .
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Everton Mint on February 04, 2018, 07:46:26 PM
Not really nobody mentioned lukaku it's Niasse or Cenk ...one of which Sam wanted to sell the other he coveted allegedly then bought ....although it's difficult to tell now which is which of late .
My point is regarding Cenk being the CF buy we have waiting for since Lukaku left.

But his price says he clearly isnt.

And that Niasse is preferred says even more.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: gizzblue on February 04, 2018, 07:53:50 PM
My point is regarding Cenk being the CF buy we have waiting for since Lukaku left.

But his price says he clearly isnt.

And that Niasse is preferred says even more.
At the end of the day i still think we robbed man u on lukaku 4 goals -13 games tells it's own tale for man u who create a dam site more than us . but you could argue they were both bought for us with comparitive monies ... give ot take a couple of mil.

Point being ,Sam's coveted striker can't move Niasse or DCL from the pecking order  (although he's Sam's buy )....although we as fans can't really judge it because we havnt seen enough of him tbh.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: TheTone on February 04, 2018, 07:57:22 PM
would have been better off going for someone like Slimani and saved a few quid
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: TheRam on February 04, 2018, 08:26:00 PM
Out: Lukaku 75m

In: Cenk 27m

'Nuff said.



What players worth 75mil or more would come to Everton?
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Lincs Toffee on February 05, 2018, 03:00:56 PM
Sam did say that his first signing has to be the right one as that is what he will be judged on....I'll say no more.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Lxxx on February 05, 2018, 04:10:22 PM
What players worth 75mil or more would come to Everton?

I wouldn't bother. Reality is wasted on this subject.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Morta75 on February 08, 2018, 01:05:11 PM
Cenk Tosun for me. He need game time to see/feel the different from Turkey to Premier Leauge
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: toffee_scot on February 09, 2018, 04:43:19 AM
I expect Tosun will get some more game time, otherwise he could end up becoming the next erm...Niasse
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: gizzblue on February 09, 2018, 07:18:05 AM
I expect Tosun will get some more game time, otherwise he could end up becoming the next erm...Niasse
I'm not sure wether that's a positive or a negative any more 😅👍.

Would love to see him start ....some much needed excitement would be added to saturdays game .
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Ramjam on February 09, 2018, 08:24:12 AM
I expect Tosun will get some more game time, otherwise he could end up becoming the next erm...Niasse
Or worse maybe the next Sandro
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: brap2 on February 09, 2018, 01:54:20 PM
Had a dream niasse bagged two
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: gizzblue on February 10, 2018, 12:22:19 AM
Had a dream niasse bagged two
Here's hoping ....

Would love this ...or any of our players to bag a brace .
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 10, 2018, 02:33:35 AM
Had a dream niasse bagged two

He's a duck shooter in his spare time.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: brap2 on February 10, 2018, 02:35:01 AM
Here's hoping ....

Would love this ...or any of our players to bag a brace .

Well prepare yourself cause my mans getting two. Ones a header ones a six yard box scramble. Or it was in the dream anyway.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Tofifee on February 10, 2018, 05:49:49 PM
Never in the history of football, or any sport ever, ever has a club wasted so much money relative to their wealth in such a short space of time as Everton have in the last 18 months
Its incredible the money we have spent for the utter **** we have purchased
Comparative to our standing and actual money available its the equivalent of a blind man spending his inheritance on a foreign language porn stash
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: gizzblue on February 10, 2018, 07:27:51 PM
So again according to the leaked team sheet Niasse leads the line against Palace ...just how shit is Allardyces Cenk Tosun of he still cant get a place in our shite squad ....gravy swigging cunt really proving every aspect of the game is now beyond his realm of expertise.

Ffs we need get rid of the useless cunt.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Sir Stealth on February 11, 2018, 03:23:24 PM
4th best goals to minutes ratio in the league behind Kane, Salah and Aguero for Niasse

Purely for how good an impact sub he is, I'd keep him about after a summer clear out.

We would have been fucked without him this season . Works his arse off, gives everything he's got for the cause. Not many players do that these days and it's such a valuable skill to the team and to the atmosphere. Plenty of players in this squad who wouldn't chase a lost cause, this lad would run through brick walls

Respect to big Oumar
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Ell Capitan on February 11, 2018, 03:24:08 PM
Easy to say after hes had a good game so I accept that, but the fact is we look more dangerous with Niasse on the pitch, and recently hes been our main source of goals - whether scored, assisted, or both - something our team is sorely lacking.

Ive no idea how Cenk is doing in training, but earning your place on merit is a principle I am in favour of. Just because we spent 27 million on Cenk doesnt mean he gets in ahead of Niasse, if its not the right decision for the team.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Martip on February 11, 2018, 03:26:35 PM
4th best goals to minutes ratio in the league behind Kane, Salah and Aguero for Niasse

Purely for how good an impact sub he is, I'd keep him about after a summer clear out.

We would have been fucked without him this season . Works his arse off, gives everything he's got for the cause. Not many players do that these days and it's such a valuable skill to the team and to the atmosphere. Plenty of players in this squad who wouldn't chase a lost cause, this lad would run through brick walls

Respect to big Oumar
Agree with this....sad though isn't it that he stands out as he's a grafter-doesnt say  a lot about some of our squad on 80k a week plus.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: van der Meyde on February 11, 2018, 03:50:26 PM
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Moshiri and Walsh personally scouted the player together in October when Tosun played at Monaco for Besiktas in the Champions League, well before the arrival of Allardyce, who is understood to feel the player does not work hard enough in training.
Ah yes. Great to see our major shareholder is personally scouting our signings...
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: AllyBlue14 on February 11, 2018, 04:02:50 PM
So again according to the leaked team sheet Niasse leads the line against Palace ...just how shit is Allardyces Cenk Tosun of he still cant get a place in our shite squad ....gravy swigging cunt really proving every aspect of the game is now beyond his realm of expertise.

Ffs we need get rid of the useless cunt.

Pathetic.

How about Sam Allardyce's Walcott?

And doesn't the quote above this suggest Tosun may have been scouted before Allardyce became involved?

Anyway, Niasse is great. I don't get all this negativity about him not being a great player. There are going to be games when he goes missing, but that happens to all strikers - some weren't happy when we had Lukaku here so God knows what they're expecting.

He might not have the most orthodox technique but he's a danger and makes things happen, whether it's goals, assists, penalties or taking out the keepers. A fluke may happen once or even twice, but he's on something like 7 goals now and we'd be screwed without him.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: gizzblue on February 11, 2018, 04:39:59 PM
Pathetic.

How about Sam Allardyce's Walcott?

And doesn't the quote above this suggest Tosun may have been scouted before Allardyce became involved?

Anyway, Niasse is great. I don't get all this negativity about him not being a great player. There are going to be games when he goes missing, but that happens to all strikers - some weren't happy when we had Lukaku here so God knows what they're expecting.

He might not have the most orthodox technique but he's a danger and makes things happen, whether it's goals, assists, penalties or taking out the keepers. A fluke may happen once or even twice, but he's on something like 7 goals now and we'd be screwed without him.
I'm not negative about Niasse at all ...more the fact that after all the waste in the summer we've now got another striker who can't even get a game .
One poster a while back actually accused me of being up Niasse's arse ,childish but funny I know .

That was also talk Sam was after Cenk at palace too so it's fucking anybody's guess what's actually true .

Walcot was allegedly scouted by Walsh although we all saw him week in week out .👍.but yeah Sam will take credit .
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Lxxx on February 11, 2018, 04:45:59 PM
I'm not negative about Niasse at all ...more the fact that after all the waste in the summer we've now got another striker who can't even get a game .
One poster a while back actually accused me of being up Niasse's arse ,childish but funny I know .

That was also talk Sam was after Cenk at palace too so it's fucking anybody's guess what's actually true .

Walcot was allegedly scouted by Walsh although we all saw him week in week out .👍.but yeah Sam will take credit .


To be fair Walcott didn't need any scouting so no-one should be proclaiming any kind of success in this one.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Jamokachi on February 12, 2018, 04:23:01 AM
recently hes been our main source of goals - whether scored, assisted, or both

This isn't a dig, but Plalace was the first time he's ever assisted and scored in a PL game.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Mayor Farnum on February 12, 2018, 04:32:02 AM
To be fair Walcott didn't need any scouting so no-one should be proclaiming any kind of success in this one.

Yet according to plenty on here he was not up to the job of playing for Everton.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Dr. Sponge on February 12, 2018, 04:37:19 AM
Yet according to plenty on here he was not up to the job of playing for Everton.

We do this a lot with players. We sign them, we moan, then they end up being fabulous

Walcott, Barry, Rooney being recent ones.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Cozzie on February 12, 2018, 02:02:49 PM
Can't answer this yet as I haven't seen enough of Cenk because some horrible fat kebab headed twat refuses to give him game time.

Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Mick 1995 on February 12, 2018, 03:16:13 PM
So Allardyce told Phil Kirkbride that he doesn't intend on using Tosun until we are mathmatically safe as he is not at the fitness standards required to be effective in the premier league.

Before you all start gnashing you teeth at that, i reckon it probably would take more than just running laps to get to that muscle-memory level of fitness required.

So it sounds a bit like Niasse at the minute. Comes over in Jan and isn't up to speed. Let's hope our next manager (if we do have a new one in the summer) doesn't treat this guy like Niasse was treated by his second Everton manager.

(Oh, and get on Niasse being confident enough of scoring now that he has little rehearsed celebrations. Eye-bleedingly adorable. Sigurdsson turning round to take the piss was even funnier)
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Polledreng on February 12, 2018, 03:19:33 PM
I’ve no idea how Cenk is doing in training, but earning your place on merit is a principle I am in favour of. Just because we spent 27 million on Cenk doesn’t mean he gets in ahead of Niasse, if it’s not the right decision for the team.
quite well if this is to be believed .. http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/02/12/report-everton-staff-impressed-by-cenk-tosuns-finishing-in-train/
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Lxxx on February 12, 2018, 03:29:17 PM
'We won't use our new signing until we're mathematically safe' is about as small time mentality as it gets. I bet the lad is feeling ten feet tall in training this morning.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Ell Capitan on February 12, 2018, 03:38:27 PM
'We won't use our new signing until we're mathematically safe' is about as small time mentality as it gets. I bet the lad is feeling ten feet tall in training this morning.

Allardyce has said Tosun is struggling with the pace of the PL in training.

I know people dont like SA but Id like to think hes at least capable of discerning when a player is underperforming in training.

The need to have a pop at the manager over every last thing is a bit tiresome.

Would you be starting Tosun ahead of Niasse right now?
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Ell Capitan on February 12, 2018, 03:40:59 PM
quite well if this is to be believed .. http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/02/12/report-everton-staff-impressed-by-cenk-tosuns-finishing-in-train/

The source article in the Mail has it somewhat different:

To listen to Allardyce, it was impossible not to conclude that concerns lurk behind the scenes.

He is struggling with the pace, he said. That happens to more players than it doesnt when they come in in January. There are more who struggle than succeed.

As time goes on and the more we get closer to our safety the more we can release and see what hes got. There is no doubting his goal-scoring ability but you have to have the capabilities to get in those positions to score, and that is the hard bit. We have to try to be patient as the team are winning without him.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: TheRam on February 12, 2018, 03:41:33 PM
Niasse is doing sound, no need to rush tosun in the team but he should be getting more minutes than he is at the moment.

Strange thing is he looked very good against Spurs.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Hannibal Lecter on February 12, 2018, 03:48:10 PM
Niasse is doing sound, no need to rush tosun in the team but he should be getting more minutes than he is at the moment.

Strange thing is he looked very good against Spurs.
Who cares what a player's overall performance and contribution looks like.

It's all about statistics. Right?
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: arteta4spain on February 12, 2018, 03:49:03 PM
Niasse is doing sound, no need to rush tosun in the team but he should be getting more minutes than he is at the moment.

Strange thing is he looked very good against Spurs.
Completely agree mate and was gonna say the same. Niasse is having a purple patch at the mo so why bench him? Although Tosun has looked a handful at Spurs, theres no need to drop Niasse just to get the fella minutes. But without minutes hes gonna be sat there thinking wtf Ive moved here and Im it getting a game.
Solution is to play the two of them up top but then who do you drop? Sigurdsson? Rooney? Davies? Walcott? Or just play each striker a half each. Who knows what Sams thinking.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Lxxx on February 12, 2018, 05:31:52 PM
Allardyce has said Tosun is struggling with the pace of the PL in training.

I know people dont like SA but Id like to think hes at least capable of discerning when a player is underperforming in training.

The need to have a pop at the manager over every last thing is a bit tiresome.

Would you be starting Tosun ahead of Niasse right now?

No I wouldn't but I also wouldn't be informing the world about our desire to be mathematically safe before we used him either, which is a bit condescending. There is a third way you know and it's what good man managers use when they're trying to keep morale high and everyone onside.
He could maybe tell the world that the lad is doing great in training but Niasse is also playing well and scoring goals so he'll get his turn in due course. He could then work with him in private to bring him up to speed.

If he has genuine concerns about him maybe the best way to address those concerns is not to tell every man and his dog in public that you have them.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: blargins on February 12, 2018, 05:40:15 PM
It took Niasse 2 years to make the first team. Probably be the same for Toscun.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Lxxx on February 12, 2018, 05:43:41 PM
It took Niasse 2 years to make the first team. Probably be the same for Toscun.

At a time when Allardyce was publicly bemoaning the fact he doesn't have a main striker at the club we go and spend big money mid season on a striker who isn't ready to be the main striker at the club. Whichever way you look at it it's not great is it.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Macca77 on February 12, 2018, 05:53:09 PM
He'll be a forgotten man soon enough, just like Klaassen
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: sam of the south on February 12, 2018, 05:56:52 PM
It took Niasse 2 years to make the first team. Probably be the same for Toscun.

Getting in with an ironic, intentional misspelling before the genuine ones start? 🤔
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: blargins on February 12, 2018, 05:58:25 PM
Getting in with an ironic, intentional misspelling before the genuine ones start? 🤔

It's early here. I can't remember how you spell his stupid name.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on February 12, 2018, 06:02:48 PM
Ive heard it was actually Tosun who asked to dropped as hes all over the place, mentally. Hes feeling really homesick, apparently.  Probably not far off the true given was Tosun said in the press conference the other week.

No matter how much you want the move and the money - its a bit of a culture shock just sat in a hotel after training rather than being on the beach.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Ell Capitan on February 12, 2018, 06:12:56 PM
No I wouldn't but I also wouldn't be informing the world about our desire to be mathematically safe before we used him either, which is a bit condescending. There is a third way you know and it's what good man managers use when they're trying to keep morale high and everyone onside.
He could maybe tell the world that the lad is doing great in training but Niasse is also playing well and scoring goals so he'll get his turn in due course. He could then work with him in private to bring him up to speed.

If he has genuine concerns about him maybe the best way to address those concerns is not to tell every man and his dog in public that you have them.


Fair point. Wouldnt be my style either.  Interestingly SA has done exactly this from the minute Tosun was signed, which made me wonder if it was more Walshs purchase and this was SA already trying to distance himself.

Also interestingly Koeman took the same approach with Klaassen and I think Sandro too, highlighting that they were struggling. I didnt love that at the time because you imagine it just heaps more pressure on. But youd like to think these well paid managers have some method to their madness.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: gizzblue on February 12, 2018, 06:23:49 PM
Does seem strange a player who was tearing it up in the champions league can't handle the premier league ....despite being linked with teams from Juventus to Spurs ...and still only ten odd mins in a blue shirt ...he allegedly can't handle it .
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: sam of the south on February 12, 2018, 06:25:55 PM
It's early here. I can't remember how you spell his stupid name.

Racist
















;)
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: van der Meyde on February 12, 2018, 06:28:56 PM
Would you be starting Tosun ahead of Niasse right now?
I wouldn't even be starting him ahead of Calvert-Lewin right now.

Tosun's been available for 5 game. He's started two of them, came off the bench in another. In one of the games he didn't play, we'd had two players go off injured before the second half had even started - with Gueye also needing to be replaced.

It's hardly the grand freezing out it's being portrayed as and a little patience has never done any player coming over harm. Let's not forget just how about players like Niasse and Fellaini looked when they first game over, eh.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Mayor Farnum on February 12, 2018, 06:31:53 PM
Niasse is doing sound, no need to rush tosun in the team but he should be getting more minutes than he is at the moment.

Strange thing is he looked very good against Spurs.
And this is part of the problem. To a layman maybe he did look ok. But you have to acknowledge that Sam and his coaches will see a lot more in a game than you, I or any other fan will see. The difference with Sam is that he just tells it like it is and it makes him unpopular because fans never like to be spoken to like adults. Remember when he first came and said something like "I took the job because it was Everton." and how giddy that made you feel. Well maybe if he added a couple of couple of "greatest fans in the world" or "Goodison cauldron" instead of taking the time to explain why he isn't playing someone the fans are anxious to see he would be a little more popular. But he doesn't really care if he's popular.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: blargins on February 12, 2018, 07:40:32 PM
Racist
















;)

It's almost as stupid as mine.

I mean blargins ffs. ;)
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Liam on February 12, 2018, 09:38:13 PM
Oumar deserves his place in the team at the minute and his record is clearly showing that: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/everton/top-scorers
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: mikey_blue on February 12, 2018, 09:42:40 PM
Oumar deserves his place in the team at the minute and his record is clearly showing that: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/everton/top-scorers

Fair play.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: gizzblue on February 12, 2018, 09:44:49 PM
Oumar deserves his place in the team at the minute and his record is clearly showing that: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/everton/top-scorers
Nobody is disputing that fact mate  .....but we should be easing Cenk in surely...he's gonna learn fuck all on the bench weekly..imho.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Paddockoldie on February 12, 2018, 10:09:23 PM
Only we can buy a desprately needed striker and then say he's not ready to play yet. When we're safe he can play because we won't need to rely on his goals to stay up. Even Niasse had a fucked up wrist when we bought him and he wasn't ready.
Morata: Bam.. scored goals straight away.
Aubameyang: Bam.. scored early doors as did Lacazette.
Even Jelovic hit the ground running first season but then turned shit.

Tosun has gone from our solution to a gamble and it's not his fault... just typical Everton
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on February 12, 2018, 10:26:58 PM
still not having the he's not ready fitnness wise for the prem and then wait until we are safe,  said all this after he was questioned about not bringing him on , after bringing MS on,  even the echo kirkbride gets it wrong when he says that had one last chance to bring him on @ 3-1 but it was 3-0 with 10m to go when MS came on and we still conceded,   yets he says 3-1 and did not want to let them back in to 3-2 with Rooney and Davies not able to play defensive,  all bollocks
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: formerKHL on February 12, 2018, 11:11:57 PM
If Id paid 27 million for a striker particularly after bigging him up the way he did...

Hed be the first name on the sheet......

If hes as bad/not ready as we are being led to believe...let us see it.... after all he cant be as bad as Niasse was when he first arrived here and is now......

Either way playing him will only vindicate Allardyce....... I didnt want him... he was Walsh/Moshiri choice.......thats the reason I never picked him......
Hopefully it will be .... thats why I never picked him I wanted him to settle in first and it paid off...

Allardyce cant lose......
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: blargins on February 12, 2018, 11:18:44 PM
I wonder if he can head the ball?
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Confucius on February 12, 2018, 11:19:08 PM
Reckon we could get 25m for Niasse at the end of the season too. But then why would we want to sell a 10-15 goal a season striker.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: formerKHL on February 12, 2018, 11:22:42 PM
Loved the header on Saturday...his head went one way the ball went the other...gotta love the bloke..
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Lxxx on February 12, 2018, 11:27:15 PM
Got a bit of the Shaun Goater about him. The ball goes in the net and it's not always certain how but the goals rack up at the end of the season. Fans favourite but not a manager's.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Ross on February 12, 2018, 11:27:29 PM
Reckon we could get 25m for Niasse at the end of the season too. But then why would we want to sell a 10-15 goal a season striker.

Crazy to hear talk we were open to moving him on in January, hopefully it was just paper bullshit, but its something you could imagine us contemplating given the current disorganised mess were in off the pitch.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: brap2 on February 12, 2018, 11:31:29 PM
Strongly suspect big sams much-lauded use of statistics begins and ends with ground covered and general work rate related data.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Liam on February 13, 2018, 03:00:27 PM
still not having the he's not ready fitnness wise for the prem and then wait until we are safe,  said all this after he was questioned about not bringing him on , after bringing MS on,  even the echo kirkbride gets it wrong when he says that had one last chance to bring him on @ 3-1 but it was 3-0 with 10m to go when MS came on and we still conceded,   yets he says 3-1 and did not want to let them back in to 3-2 with Rooney and Davies not able to play defensive,  all bollocks

Remember when we brought Oumar on with 10 to go on at west ham a few seasons ago?
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Macca77 on February 13, 2018, 03:30:24 PM
Sorry if already posted but the echo are claiming Allardyce has said he won't play Tosun until we're mathematically safe from relegation

Cannot wait for Allardyce to fuck off, absolute joke.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Lxxx on February 13, 2018, 04:44:51 PM
Remember when we brought Oumar on with 10 to go on at west ham a few seasons ago?

Yeh remember that well. The stunned silence walking out was bizarre as everyone couldn't quite work out how we had managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Classic Martinez.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: GLewis on February 14, 2018, 03:14:36 AM
Remember when we brought Oumar on with 10 to go on at west ham a few seasons ago?

We were down to 10 men and they were having a decent season though.

Plus we took off Lennon who was doing a lot of work defensively.

We could have just swapped Tosun for Niasse without affecting the defensive balance at that stage.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: brap2 on February 14, 2018, 03:47:04 AM
We were down to 10 men and they were having a decent season though.

Plus we took off Lennon who was doing a lot of work defensively.

We could have just swapped Tosun for Niasse without affecting the defensive balance at that stage.

To be honest I think the right move would have been niasse off DCL on.

Pace and work rate goes unaffected but we keep the ball better.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: ajax_andy on February 14, 2018, 03:48:08 AM
So our DOF failed to get a striker in all summer, now we have one and he's not capable of playing?!

How has Walsh STILL got a job?!
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: School of Science on February 14, 2018, 03:56:32 AM
Beginning to really dislike Allardyce, why on earth would you turn your own fans onto the big money striker you've just bought ? We hear he is not working hard enough in training, he doesn't like the weather and the game is too quick for him because he isn't fit enough. Talk about destroying a players confidence.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: blueski on February 14, 2018, 04:17:52 AM
Sorry if already posted but the echo are claiming Allardyce has said he won't play Tosun until we're mathematically safe from relegation

Cannot wait for Allardyce to fuck off, absolute joke.
how's that for a pat on the back and a bit of confidence for him
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Thornton_19 on February 14, 2018, 04:21:52 AM
Watched Niasses header at the weekend loads. No idea how he kept it on target he aimed one way and it hit the side of his head and went another.

Love him to bits though.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: blue slug on February 14, 2018, 04:24:23 AM
Niasse is just so likeable he wears his heart on his sleeve and is a proper battler
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Cuttyblue on February 14, 2018, 09:24:44 AM
Niasse is just so likeable he wears his heart on his sleeve and is a proper battler

Some of his goals look soo jammy.  God loves Niasse, no doubt about it.
Title: Re: Cenk or Niasse
Post by: Ramjam on February 14, 2018, 11:56:39 AM
Niasse is just so likeable he wears his heart on his sleeve and is a proper battler
Without his goals this season wed be about 17th right now and looking for a new manager