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Title: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Shogun on February 08, 2018, 06:29:19 AM
Obviously this isn't actually the case because that's Pickford but I don't understand why Koeman took him out of the side and I don't know why he gets jumped on any time he misplaces a few passes.

The reason he misplaces passes is because he tries to drag us up the pitch and make forward passes yet the likes of the EFC Twitteratti will slag him off after a match whilst in the same breath lamenting Scheniderlin for being a crab.

Even the simple things like at 56 seconds in this video


Without trying to turn this into a Schneiderlin slag off, right there he'd have taken an extra touch and passed that into Gana. Davies' first thought is to turn towards the opposition half and play forward ball to Rooney with space to drive into.

I just think many need to accept the type of footballer he is. He's not a Barkley and he's not DM but he's a fairly unique player that certainly isn't championship standard as someone mentioned in the Gana thread.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: kramer0 on February 08, 2018, 06:39:16 AM
He's not perfect but we're a better team with him on the pitch, whatever his form. He's energetic and forward-thinking which unlocks a lot of possibilities for us in attack. I also think he's underrated technically. He's a pretty good dribbler and has a nice weight of pass when he looks to play the ball in behind the defense.

He's a top snide too.

Really poor from Koeman and Allardyce to leave him out so often. He's already influential and he's only going to get better with games.
Title: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Ramjam on February 08, 2018, 06:40:11 AM
He's another Peter Reid, always looking forward and trying to get on the front foot and ignite something, should be a regular starter.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Shogun on February 08, 2018, 06:45:09 AM
He's not perfect

I know you're fan so this isn't aimed at you but what top midfielder was at 19?
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: kramer0 on February 08, 2018, 07:05:04 AM
I know you're fan so this isn't aimed at you but what top midfielder was at 19?

Yep. Same deal with the rest of the youngsters. Nobody is a top player at that age.

There's plenty to be disappointed with regarding Allardyce but his eagerness to expel all of the young players from the side is the worst for me. Holgate, Kenny, Davies, Calvert-Lewin, Lookman, and Vlasic have rarely let us down when they've played this season. They have their flaws (so do most of the expensive senior players, to be fair) but how can we expect them to get to the level needed if they're not getting meaningful time on the pitch? I understand dropping Kenny for Coleman and Lookman and Vlasic are probably better used off the bench at this stage but the point remains.

I'm not saying the youngsters don't need protecting at times and the team will certainly struggle if we play too many of them but I can't find a good reason why, at the very least, Holgate (our best defender during his run at CB), Davies (without whom our midfield plainly doesn't work), and Calvert-Lewin (who will chase anything and has a better first touch and more quality on the ball than Niasse) aren't starting every match. These players will pay dividends for a manager willing to afford them some patience.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: blueToffee on February 08, 2018, 07:18:53 AM
He has just a little hint of the Pienaar's about him in terms of winning a foul too. Not a bad skill to have.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: boothill on February 08, 2018, 08:00:49 AM
He's another Peter Reid, always looking forward and trying to get on the front foot and ignite something, should be a regular starter.
reidy was originally a winger before he came to us, injury curtailed that position for him
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Ramjam on February 08, 2018, 08:07:35 AM
reidy was originally a winger before he came to us, injury curtailed that position for him
Lucky for us then as he turned out to be a superstar in the middle, didnít know he played on the wing though, you live and learn.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: boothill on February 08, 2018, 08:17:52 AM
Lucky for us then as he turned out to be a superstar in the middle, didn't know he played on the wing though, you live and learn.
he'd been a few seasons has neville bartos before he came to lourdes like
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 08, 2018, 08:24:25 AM
He's just a football player.  The past two managers struggle because they want to put him in a box.  Let him make things happen, he certainly contributes all over the pitch whenever I see him play.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: GLewis on February 08, 2018, 12:38:06 PM
I know you're fan so this isn't aimed at you but what top midfielder was at 19?

This is whatís most annoying.

Nearly every young player has a dip 6/12 months into their career through a combination of things such as drops in adrenaline, confidence; the opposition taking notice of you; increased expectations and attention so flaws / mistakes are highlighted and remembered more.

As long as there are still some signs of quality then this sort of slump is nothing to worry about; yet with people's short term opinions he swings from should go to the WC to championship player. Ridiculous.

In terms of picking him, he was rubbish at the start of the season so there werenít overwhelming arguments to pick him then at all.

But itís obvious that heís part of the only midfield that plays well and given the future benefits of playing him he should certainly be starting most games now.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: GLewis on February 08, 2018, 12:42:42 PM
The other thing aside from his passing that I like is that he tends to make good runs from inside to out which helps the wider players with passing options but also distracts central defensive players leaving more space in the middle for our attackers.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Goaljira on February 08, 2018, 01:06:08 PM
The other thing aside from his passing that I like is that he tends to make good runs from inside to out which helps the wider players with passing options but also distracts central defensive players leaving more space in the middle for our attackers.

Like what Klaassen did for Rooney's goal in the Stoke game.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Morta75 on February 08, 2018, 01:08:34 PM
Yes, He always works his ass off, even if he's not always friends with the ball. He's only 19 still. Game time and we will have a good squad player in this Davies.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Waltzer on February 08, 2018, 01:35:13 PM
Until we get a forward thinking progressive manager players like Davies, Lookman and Vlasic will always struggle. At the moment Sams main priority is how to stop goals, its his selling point, so he wants players who are defensively minded, which is a real shame
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Bob Sacamano on February 08, 2018, 01:54:57 PM
This thread is going to give Thomas a brain aneurysm.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Macca77 on February 08, 2018, 02:04:21 PM
Always rated him, his quality on the ball is great, gets stuck in and will get better, that said, the boo boys are already giving him the treatment, what is it with our fans and local homegrown players, why are they singled out for more abuse that others.

If he played for one of the "Sky top 6" he would have quite a few England caps by now
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: brap2 on February 08, 2018, 03:01:29 PM
Very enjoyable player to watch. When heís having an off day it can be frustrating because he can be dominated, but thatís the middle of the pitch in the prem.

A team thatís missing forward motion and vertical passing as much as we have been this year really canít afford to leave him out.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Toffee1 on February 08, 2018, 03:05:12 PM
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2018/02/07/tom-davies

I'd have him in the team all the time because he tries and shows a bit of fight. He can be frustrating when things he tries don't work but at least he has a go, when others shy away.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 08, 2018, 03:05:23 PM
My issue with him is when he gives the ball away trying simple things
Ive never had any issue with a player trying to make things happen
He was always gonna have an issue with form, he is a young lad
Like I said a couple of games ago, even when he isn't at his best I wouldn't take him off as we look far better with him on the pitch than without him
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Lxxx on February 08, 2018, 03:58:45 PM
He's more intelligent than most players at his age. When he plays with Rooney and Rooney drops deep to get the ball Schneiderlin would just stand still and let Rooney try and manipulate the ball whereas I notice Davies immediately decides to vacate that area and offer another body ahead of the ball to give us options and vice versa when Rooney bombs on he slots in. If he cost £30m he'd be in the team every week.

He doesn't help himself by doing the simple things poorly at times but he's a kid and he'll learn.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: april on February 08, 2018, 04:37:58 PM
Itís great when he plays. Heís Everton.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Bluenose 91 on February 08, 2018, 06:20:29 PM
I've been harsh on him in the past to be honest.

While not everything he tries comes off he links that midfield together when he plays, especially when it's with Gana and Rooney.

He actually gets beyond the striker from deep as well which gives us so much more in attack.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 08, 2018, 06:49:10 PM
He's more intelligent than most players at his age. When he plays with Rooney and Rooney drops deep to get the ball Schneiderlin would just stand still and let Rooney try and manipulate the ball whereas I notice Davies immediately decides to vacate that area and offer another body ahead of the ball to give us options and vice versa when Rooney bombs on he slots in. If he cost £30m he'd be in the team every week.

He doesn't help himself by doing the simple things poorly at times but he's a kid and he'll learn.

You can't put a price on football intelligence like that.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: dazfrancis on February 08, 2018, 06:50:34 PM
Tom Davies makes the whole greater than the sum of it's parts. Lot's of managers seem to ignore this.

We saw the same when Baines, Pienaar and Osman all played in the same team. All intelligent, technical footballers who knew each other's games inside out. When they played together they were 2 or 3 steps ahead of the opposition and ran rings around them but when they never matched that level when the played with other equal and better quality players
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Lxxx on February 08, 2018, 06:55:43 PM
But we have a midfielder in Schneiderlin who cost 24 million quid with more experience.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: mikey_blue on February 08, 2018, 07:54:40 PM
I'd rather be frustrated by Davies trying to pull something progressive off than be frustrated by Schneiderlin being a shit bag.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on February 09, 2018, 08:47:31 AM
With the amount of shithouses he's had to play alongside it's a wonder he's progressed as far as he has..How shniderlin would ever be on a team sheet while Tom Davies is fit is a total fuckin mystery.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Dr. Sponge on February 09, 2018, 01:52:50 PM
I'm a big fan of Davies, especially in a midfield 3. He's just suffered from being in a very poor team this season.

I'm not worried about his development stunting, because it's good for young players to take a step back and watch sometimes. But yeah we're a better team with him in it.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Lxxx on February 09, 2018, 02:54:17 PM
With the amount of shithouses he's had to play alongside it's a wonder he's progressed as far as he has..How shniderlin would ever be on a team sheet while Tom Davies is fit is a total fuckin mystery.

24...million...quid.

It goes off how much you cost these days apparently not ability.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: blue slug on February 10, 2018, 12:49:40 AM
He makes mistakes but heís young and we still look better with him in the team
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Shogun on February 10, 2018, 10:56:38 PM
Whose praises should I sing before next week's game?
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Gash on February 10, 2018, 10:57:44 PM
Whose praises should I sing before next week's game?

Schneiderlin needs all the help he can get.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: van der Meyde on February 10, 2018, 10:58:36 PM
Whose praises should I sing before next week's game?
Whoever you want. No fucker will be playing next week.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Cozzie on February 10, 2018, 11:10:28 PM
As the thread title says, first name on the team sheet.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 11, 2018, 11:53:58 PM
Whose praises should I sing before next week's game?

2nd name on the teamsheet ought be Mason Holgate, so go with that?  Pretty please?
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Mick 1995 on February 12, 2018, 04:28:30 PM
2nd name on the teamsheet ought be Mason Holgate, so go with that?  Pretty please?

It shouldn't mate. I know you really get fixated on a kid from time to time and Holgate is definitely the future. But there are more important players to bed in at the moment.



Back on Davies, i vomited a little in my throat when i heard Allardyce say he was back in the team because "he raised his training stats".
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: van der Meyde on February 12, 2018, 06:31:29 PM
It shouldn't mate. I know you really get fixated on a kid from time to time and Holgate is definitely the future. But there are more important players to bed in at the moment.



Back on Davies, i vomited a little in my throat when i heard Allardyce say he was back in the team because "he raised his training stats".
Would love to know what the training stats actually are.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: brap2 on February 12, 2018, 11:47:09 PM
That 3 in midfield is the one definitely.

Need to find some form of that we can play away from home...
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: TheRam on February 13, 2018, 04:08:38 AM
I'd like to see klassen play the Davies role before the season is out.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Lincs Toffee on February 14, 2018, 03:10:52 PM
I'd like to see klassen play the Davies role before the season is out.
He can't even make it on the bench so fuck knows when mate, but yes I think he is the technical player we are actually missing to unlock defences, probably just needs to toughen up a little !
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: dazfrancis on February 14, 2018, 03:19:16 PM
I'd like to see klassen play the Davies role before the season is out.

Would be proper weird if we ended up with three 10s in the starting 11 again but actually playing well.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Lxxx on February 14, 2018, 03:24:49 PM
Would be proper weird if we ended up with three 10s in the starting 11 again but actually playing well.

It's not impossible though. Good players should be able to play with each other if they know each otherís game well enough. 
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: blargins on February 14, 2018, 04:56:38 PM
Klaassen was never brought in as a number 10. He was brought in to play Davies role.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Lxxx on February 14, 2018, 06:12:42 PM
Klaassen was never brought in as a number 10. He was brought in to play Davies role.

Isn't Davies playing that role now though.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: blargins on February 14, 2018, 06:14:55 PM
Isn't Davies playing that role now though.

He is now. What if he gets injured though or loses form?

Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Lxxx on February 14, 2018, 06:16:23 PM
He is now. What if he gets injured though or loses form?



We have Sig, Rooney, Vlasic and Klaassan in the squad who have all played in the No 10 role in their career and can do so again if need be. It's the one area we don't need to be too worried about personnel until the end of the season.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: blargins on February 14, 2018, 06:29:47 PM
We have Sig, Rooney, Vlasic and Klaassan in the squad who have all played in the No 10 role in their career and can do so again if need be. It's the one area we don't need to be too worried about personnel until the end of the season.

Davies doesn't typically play the number 10 role. That's the point. Klaassen was brought to provide competition with Davies, not the number 10 role. He's just been lumped in with all the other number 10s we have.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Lxxx on February 14, 2018, 06:56:58 PM
Davies doesn't typically play the number 10 role. That's the point. Klaassen was brought to provide competition with Davies, not the number 10 role. He's just been lumped in with all the other number 10s we have.

The point being we have enough bodies in the squad to cover another loss of form or injury to Davies.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: blargins on February 14, 2018, 07:13:52 PM
The point being we have enough bodies in the squad to cover another loss of form or injury to Davies.
But we didnít when we bought Klaassen. He was one of the first in.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: TheRam on February 14, 2018, 07:18:05 PM
I'd say Klassen is probably the only number ten we have.

Sigurdsson is better off the left

Rooney better deep

Davies better as an 8

Whereas I dont think Klassen could play anywhere else but number 10 in this league. Obviously the other names mentioned can play the number 10 role, but they're all better somewhere else imo
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: blargins on February 14, 2018, 07:20:54 PM
I'd say Klassen is probably the only number ten we have.

Sigurdsson is better off the left

Rooney better deep

Davies better as an 8

Whereas I dont think Klassen could play anywhere else but number 10 in this league. Obviously the other names mentioned can play the number 10 role, but they're all better somewhere else imo
Always thought Sig would be better centrally. Not seen him there much for us. Am glad heís showing some better form and results at least.

Rooney definitely better deep but we certainly need an upgrade on him as he is not getting any younger.

I really hope Klaassen is given more of a chance. I feel given the better stability we have now he would have a better chance of establishing himself now.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Dr. Sponge on February 14, 2018, 07:48:53 PM
I know he is Dutch but Klassen doesn't look an outstanding amount of technically gifted. I'd say Rooney and Sigurdson were better in that department. From what  I've seen of him, he links up play well.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: brap2 on February 14, 2018, 08:02:46 PM
Neither Davies Klaassen or Rooney are 10s anyway.

Sigurdsson is a 10 but nowhere near on the ball enough to play 10 for a big club.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: brap2 on February 14, 2018, 08:04:11 PM
I know he is Dutch but Klassen doesn't look an outstanding amount of technically gifted. I'd say Rooney and Sigurdson were better in that department. From what  I've seen of him, he links up play well.

Yeah heís not technically gifted - closer to a lampard than a Gerrard or Scholes.

Late runs, arriving at the edge of the box, or linking up around the box.

The lads whoíve come through this year de beek and de jong look miles better technically than davvy ever was.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: brap2 on February 14, 2018, 08:14:43 PM
P.s this is all from the internet of course
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: shylockbusiness on February 14, 2018, 09:06:19 PM
Heís lagged behind this season but then again so hasnít everyone? At least Tom is attempting those attacking passes and encouraging are attackers to make the right kind of runs. Other players *cough* Schneiderlin are doing nothing creatively and still managing to make a mess out of it.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: sam of the south on February 14, 2018, 09:15:12 PM
Yeah heís not technically gifted - closer to a lampard than a Gerrard or Scholes.

Late runs, arriving at the edge of the box, or linking up around the box.

The lads whoíve come through this year de beek and de jong look miles better technically than davvy ever was.

De Beek luvsh de beak, sho I've heard.



Ik pak mijn xenofobe jas
(I'll get my xenophobic coat)
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Toddacelli on February 14, 2018, 10:35:52 PM
His intelligence off the ball speaks volumes for his ability to develop. For me - he has the raw materials - he just needs to learn his craft and should be given every opportunity to do so.

As for playing 3 number 10's - can that be done? What formation - 3-3-3-1 ?

             Pickford

Holgate Jagielka Mangala

Coleman Gueye Davies

Rooney Klaasen Sigurdsson

               Tosun

Not sure what I think of that - don't think I'd like to try it in an important game!
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Jamokachi on February 15, 2018, 02:42:47 AM
Everton fans have become #10 obsessed.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: brap2 on February 15, 2018, 05:43:27 AM
Everton fans have become #10 obsessed.

Just in time for the rest of modern football to leave them behind in favour of goal scoring wide men. Superb.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Dr. Sponge on February 15, 2018, 06:39:03 AM
Just in time for the rest of modern football to leave them behind in favour of goal scoring wide men. Superb.

This is Everton all over. I suppose Spurs still get some joy from their central attacking players, Eriksen etc. But they rely heavily on having quality fullbacks with engines on them. Then you look at our fullbacks and realise how horribly wrong we've got it (considering Coleman's injury).
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Toddacelli on February 15, 2018, 02:00:46 PM
All the best teams attacking teams have players who are looking to hurt you and score throughout midfield and attack.

It's like our midfielders are thinking "my job is x - I must stick to x" wheras the top ones will be thinking "my job is x - but the moment any space opens up in front of me I'm going to try and use it to score or create"

Is this attitude, tactics or both?
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Lxxx on February 15, 2018, 02:25:55 PM
Just in time for the rest of modern football to leave them behind in favour of goal scoring wide men. Superb.

To be fair we have just bought one of them whose record stands up to most in that position.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: brap2 on February 15, 2018, 03:37:39 PM
To be fair we have just bought one of them whose record stands up to most in that position.

Agree, looks a superb addition.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: TheRam on February 15, 2018, 04:29:35 PM
Just in time for the rest of modern football to leave them behind in favour of goal scoring wide men. Superb.

Can see us going in for rashford in the summer.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Lxxx on February 15, 2018, 04:33:29 PM
Can see us going in for rashford in the summer.

I can see them only letting him go on loan which I'd be happy with. Rashford and Walcott in the same team with Rooney pulling the strings would be a pretty decent attacking unit, if we can sort out what's happening behind them.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Macca77 on February 15, 2018, 04:35:11 PM
Joe Royle said Davies was harshly treated by Koeman, was treated like a scapegoat, its great to see him back in the team and he will go on to be one of our best players
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: dazfrancis on February 15, 2018, 06:18:00 PM
I can see them only letting him go on loan which I'd be happy with. Rashford and Walcott in the same team with Rooney pulling the strings would be a pretty decent attacking unit, if we can sort out what's happening behind them.
And in front
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: brap2 on February 15, 2018, 07:54:11 PM
Can see us going in for rashford in the summer.

Would bite your hand off even on loan, doubt heíd consider it tho.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: BlueForYou on February 15, 2018, 10:01:14 PM
Rashford would be a top signing

£50m?
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Mick 1995 on February 16, 2018, 02:17:51 PM
Rashford would be a top signing

£50m?

That the loan fee?
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: BlueForYou on February 16, 2018, 03:12:04 PM
No - but they get Tosun and Sandro
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Macca77 on February 17, 2018, 03:05:55 AM
Not a single fuck was given by Davies here

Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Macca77 on February 18, 2018, 09:22:19 PM
These two are loving life

https://twitter.com/nsno_83/status/964930487323189250
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: sam of the south on February 19, 2018, 12:30:55 AM
I love Kenny.

Such a lad.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Lxxx on February 19, 2018, 05:49:35 PM
Looks like DCL is starting to fill out finally. He needed another stone of beef to fill out his frame, next season he might be closer to what we need. 
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Hesmenos on February 20, 2018, 02:40:37 AM
http://www.football-observatory.com/?lang=en (http://www.football-observatory.com/?lang=en)

Tom Davies is rated as the 7th most promising u20 player in Europe.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: brap2 on February 20, 2018, 02:54:58 AM
Looks like DCL is starting to fill out finally. He needed another stone of beef to fill out his frame, next season he might be closer to what we need. 

Donít think heíll ever be a proper big man 9, so considering that heís done brilliantly at times this year in that role.

See him as more of a mobile, dare I say, firmino type - mobile, linking up and creating for others while getting a few.

Just my pure blag opinion like, probably miles off.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: TheRam on February 20, 2018, 04:54:03 AM
Donít think heíll ever be a proper big man 9, so considering that heís done brilliantly at times this year in that role.

See him as more of a mobile, dare I say, firmino type - mobile, linking up and creating for others while getting a few.

Just my pure blag opinion like, probably miles off.

Doesn't offer enough infront of goal go ever be a number 9 IMO. Maybe it's something he could develop overtime but I think it's something you have or you don't. Maybe having someone like Walcott could help him with that though.

Think he can still become a very good player though in a kind of Danny Wellbeck mode. Tall, fast, powerful striker who'll never get you more than 12 goals a season, but will offer a lot in other aspects of the game.

He's already improved massively from the player who broke into the team a year ago.

As for Davies, he's the business. Got everything you need as a midfielder in the modern game.

Looks like the lads are making the most of this Dubai trip as well. Holgate getting on some model in the clubs and that.

Is right the lads.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: stirlingblue on February 20, 2018, 05:18:34 AM
I love Kenny.

Such a lad.

Lid
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on February 20, 2018, 04:00:29 PM
Lid
He deffo wears Reebok classics
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Lxxx on February 20, 2018, 04:32:24 PM
And he'll have the same hairstyle all his career.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: brap2 on February 20, 2018, 07:43:33 PM
Doesn't offer enough infront of goal go ever be a number 9 IMO. Maybe it's something he could develop overtime but I think it's something you have or you don't. Maybe having someone like Walcott could help him with that though.

Think he can still become a very good player though in a kind of Danny Wellbeck mode. Tall, fast, powerful striker who'll never get you more than 12 goals a season, but will offer a lot in other aspects of the game.

He's already improved massively from the player who broke into the team a year ago.

As for Davies, he's the business. Got everything you need as a midfielder in the modern game.

Looks like the lads are making the most of this Dubai trip as well. Holgate getting on some model in the clubs and that.

Is right the lads.

Agree re: DCL

Davies just missing pace / power / dribbling. Doesnít look an athlete which is a shame given his mentality.

Agree re: holgate smashing worldies.
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: brap2 on February 21, 2018, 12:22:24 AM
Oh and he canít shoot
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Bob Sacamano on February 21, 2018, 04:24:32 AM
Where this holgate stuff at?
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: Paddockoldie on February 21, 2018, 04:29:21 AM
Think DCL is more Sharp than a Lukaku. He's more mobile and can control a high ball better  (most of the time)
Title: Re: Tom Davies - First Name on the Teamsheet
Post by: brap2 on February 21, 2018, 02:40:32 PM
Think DCL is more Sharp than a Lukaku. He's more mobile and can control a high ball better  (most of the time)

But about one hundredth as deadly in front of goal.

DCL doesnít even seem to even really make an effort to go for goal with runs etc.

Iíve also never ever seen him strike a ball cleanly. Even when players like Kane and lukaku are young or out of form, they can strike through a ball cleanly.