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Title: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Escla on February 09, 2018, 12:26:34 AM
Anyone know what he is actually for ? Was his appointment and retention by subsequent managers borne out of a belief that he was a fan “legend” and there would be an outcry if he was not given a job/retained.
Strange that he was kept on by both Koeman and Allardyce, I just see him sitting on the bench chatting shite to Allardyce.

Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Alanvideo on February 09, 2018, 12:29:14 AM
Anyone know what he is actually for ? Was his appointment and retention by subsequent managers borne out of a belief that he was a fan “legend” and there would be an outcry if he was not given a job/retained.
Strange that he was kept on by both Koeman and Allardyce, I just see him sitting on the bench chatting shite to Allardyce.


...........Elstone has had Dunc's P45 in his pocket for a year but daren't hand it to him
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Shropshire Blue on February 09, 2018, 12:36:51 AM
Anyone know what he is actually for ? Was his appointment and retention by subsequent managers borne out of a belief that he was a fan “legend” and there would be an outcry if he was not given a job/retained.
Strange that he was kept on by both Koeman and Allardyce, I just see him sitting on the bench chatting shite to Allardyce.


How do you actually know what he's talking about?
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Escla on February 09, 2018, 12:42:44 AM
How do you actually know what he's talking about?

Well whatever he’s talking about it’s not having any impact so it might as well be shite.
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Simon Paul on February 09, 2018, 12:49:28 AM
Put the cones out and carries the bibs and balls
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Escla on February 09, 2018, 12:54:09 AM
Put the cones out and carries the bibs and balls

I’m sure that’s not far off the truth, I mean by all means recognise him for his service and past contribution but is he really the best we can do to develop the likes of DCL, Tosun, Niasse ?
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Simon Paul on February 09, 2018, 12:59:05 AM
I'm sure that's not far off the truth, I mean by all means recognise him for his service and past contribution but is he really the best we can do to develop the likes of DCL, Tosun, Niasse ?
Was told that he was banned from shouting instructions from the bench by Martinez
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Macca77 on February 09, 2018, 01:02:12 AM
He's a yes man
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Escla on February 09, 2018, 01:05:13 AM
Was told that he was banned from shouting instructions from the bench by Martinez

Then someone should tell him Martinez has gone and that he should tell little Sam to stfu and get a bit involved in the game himself.
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Shogun on February 09, 2018, 01:17:40 AM
Was told that he was banned from shouting instructions from the bench by Martinez

Shame, probably would have been a nice equilibrium after Martinez telling them they played boss after losing 3-0 to Sunderland.
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 09, 2018, 01:21:26 AM
Hope some day he strangles Allardyce and Lee live on teevee.
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Lxxx on February 09, 2018, 01:41:32 AM
Amuses me how a lot of people slag him for not having much input but on other topics they're the ones saying he should be binned as he's partly responsible for our decline.
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: ajax_andy on February 09, 2018, 01:44:38 AM
Not sure what he does now but in the past he worked closely with Anichebe and taught him how to hold up the ball properly.

Maybe he still coaches the strikers as well as being part of the match day staff?
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Escla on February 09, 2018, 01:57:59 AM
Amuses me how a lot of people slag him for not having much input but on other topics they're the ones saying he should be binned as he's partly responsible for our decline.
Wasn’t slagging him originally, was just asking a question but what is the difference between those two scenarios ? One could slag him for not giving any input and at the same time blame that for the fact that our strikers are not being coached, didn’t really see anyone blaming him for our decline though ?










Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Lxxx on February 09, 2018, 02:02:33 AM
Wasn’t slagging him originally, was just asking a question but what is the difference between those two scenarios ? One could slag him for not giving any input and at the same time blame that for the fact that our strikers are not being coached, didn’t really see anyone blaming him for our decline though ?


He's just a glorified cheerleader really so it's a non-subject.
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Escla on February 09, 2018, 02:06:08 AM
Well for a non subject I reckon we’ll get a fair few pages on what is otherwise a slow day on here  :snigger:
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Jamokachi on February 09, 2018, 02:24:18 AM
Was told that he was banned from shouting instructions from the bench by Martinez


Only because Martinez was on a power trip. No one was allowed a voice apart from him. This extends to players in the dressing room, a culture he eradicated from Moyes' days. Not a reflection on DF in the slightest.

Taken with a massive pinch of salt, the latest FM has Ferguson's coaching potential as being sky high. It does make me wonder how they measure this, and whether it is anywhere near as accurate as player stats employed by the game.
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Dr. Sponge on February 09, 2018, 03:03:23 AM
These discussions about Big Dunc are weird. It's like blaming the kid with the towel for Henman not winning Wimbledon.
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Escla on February 09, 2018, 03:12:18 AM
These discussions about Big Dunc are weird. It's like blaming the kid with the towel for Henman not winning Wimbledon.

Nobody has blamed him for anything, where do you get that from ? People simply asking what he does, do you know ?
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Shropshire Blue on February 09, 2018, 03:40:05 AM
Quote
I just see him sitting on the bench chatting shite to Allardyce.

You just blamed him for talking shite! ! 😲
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Cozzie on February 09, 2018, 03:51:10 AM
I also don't know what he is for, but it doesn't bode well that he has been part of 4 failed regimes, but they are too scared to sack him I bet.
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Shropshire Blue on February 09, 2018, 03:58:26 AM
Quite a revelation that 4 managers have been too scared him.
Won't be surprised if this gets picked up by the tabloids. He must have something really big and scary over them.
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: TheRam on February 09, 2018, 04:05:56 AM

Only because Martinez was on a power trip. No one was allowed a voice apart from him. This extends to players in the dressing room, a culture he eradicated from Moyes' days. Not a reflection on DF in the slightest.

Taken with a massive pinch of salt, the latest FM has Ferguson's coaching potential as being sky high. It does make me wonder how they measure this, and whether it is anywhere near as accurate as player stats employed by the game.

He keeps having a pop at me for trying to turn Aaron Lennon into a full back.

He's having none of it.
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Jamokachi on February 09, 2018, 04:07:59 AM
He keeps having a pop at me for trying to turn Aaron Lennon into a full back.

He's having none of it.

He failed his coaching exam for me, but I was too scared to do anything about it.
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: brap2 on February 09, 2018, 04:27:49 AM
He keeps having a pop at me for trying to turn Aaron Lennon into a full back.

He's having none of it.

Wingback all day long
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Escla on February 09, 2018, 04:41:18 AM
You just blamed him for talking shite! ! 😲

You need to look up the definition of “blame”  :)
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Shropshire Blue on February 09, 2018, 05:26:39 AM
You need to look up the definition of “blame”  :)
To be paid a big salary in our football club for sitting on the bench talking shite is wrong. He's an adult and therefore he is responsible for doing this. So, if it's wrong he is to blame.
You were very clear about what he is doing.
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Confucius on February 09, 2018, 06:08:34 AM
These discussions about Big Dunc are weird. It's like blaming the kid with the towel for Henman not winning Wimbledon.

The kid did put some chloroform on the towel though
Title: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Dr. Sponge on February 09, 2018, 10:14:14 AM
Nobody has blamed him for anything, where do you get that from ? People simply asking what he does, do you know ?

People have pointed the finger at him quite a few times during a rant, not necessarily your post.

People want to know what Walsh's role is, I get that because we want to know who's to blame for the recruitment disaster etc. But Ferguson is just a bit-part coach that helps out.
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Mick 1995 on February 09, 2018, 01:46:41 PM
You reckon there's a thread on a Huddersfield board musing/wondering/accusing/blaiming/whatevering about Andrew Hughes' role?

I don't to be honest.
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Lxxx on February 09, 2018, 02:53:15 PM
You reckon there's a thread on a Huddersfield board musing/wondering/accusing/blaiming/whatevering about Andrew Hughes' role?

I don't to be honest.


Cue someone with too much time on their hands finding said thread.
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Deano Blue Boy on February 09, 2018, 03:58:33 PM
We've turned into a sorry looking fans haven't we
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Escla on February 09, 2018, 04:11:48 PM
You reckon there's a thread on a Huddersfield board musing/wondering/accusing/blaiming/whatevering about Andrew Hughes' role?

I don't to be honest.

How did we get onto the subject of Andrew Hughes ?
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Mick 1995 on February 09, 2018, 04:47:12 PM
How did we get onto the subject of Andrew Hughes ?

he's the first team coach of huddersfield, Like Ferguson is ours.

andrew Jones has a head coach above him in the pecking order though. Craig Shakespeare seems to be ours (but i think he doesn't haev the title of "head").

It's only because people have thie weird little antagonism towards Ferguson that they look for reasons to doubt him.
He is a first team coach. There's no reason to believe he does more or less than all of the other first team coaches across the land.
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Lxxx on February 09, 2018, 05:19:58 PM
he's the first team coach of huddersfield, Like Ferguson is ours.

andrew Jones has a head coach above him in the pecking order though. Craig Shakespeare seems to be ours (but i think he doesn't haev the title of "head").

It's only because people have thie weird little antagonism towards Ferguson that they look for reasons to doubt him.
He is a first team coach. There's no reason to believe he does more or less than all of the other first team coaches across the land.
I think people are so desperate to pin the tail on a donkey that they're searching high and low for a scapegoat, as if he's somehow responsible for diabolical recruitment or negative tactics or a totally unbalanced system.
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Escla on February 09, 2018, 05:27:14 PM
I think people are so desperate to pin the tail on a donkey that they're searching high and low for a scapegoat, as if he's somehow responsible for diabolical recruitment or negative tactics or a totally unbalanced system.

I don’t think anyone needs to search for a scapegoat when it is blatantly obvious that Allardyce and Walsh are to blame for diabolical recruitment and negative tactics, don’t you agree ?
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Mick 1995 on February 09, 2018, 05:37:52 PM
People have seemingly taken delight in casting aspersions his way during the last 2 managers as well. It's nothing new.

As opposed to seeing him being "part of" 4 failed regimes (harsh on Unsworth as well that statement) i choose to see it as 3 managers have thought he has been good enough to keep in a job.
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: formerKHL on February 09, 2018, 05:40:48 PM
Duncan is part of a coaching team...probably consisting of at least 4 of them......

he will have a role to play but his role obviously doesn't consist of "tactical input" on match day....

I would say it'd be more about monitoring and assessing progress/non progress of players on a day to day to basis...with some input on coaching sessions during the week.....his verbal input will come throughout the week in the form of feedback on his observations....I would also assume his feedback will influence player selections........

the big question should be...."is his feedback taken any notice of?"......
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Escla on February 09, 2018, 05:48:50 PM
Duncan is part of a coaching team...probably consisting of at least 4 of them......

he will have a role to play but his role obviously doesn't consist of "tactical input" on match day....

I would say it'd be more about monitoring and assessing progress/non progress of players on a day to day to basis...with some input on coaching sessions during the week.....his verbal input will come throughout the week in the form of feedback on his observations....I would also assume his feedback will influence player selections........

the big question should be...."is his feedback taken any notice of?"......

Thanks, that answers my question exactly, you are probably spot on.
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: brap2 on February 10, 2018, 02:42:29 AM
Seen more of Duncan than I have Shakespeare over the last few weeks. Where is he and what does he do?
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: mikey_blue on February 10, 2018, 02:49:11 AM
He said he'd batter them if they sacked him.
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Morta75 on February 10, 2018, 10:20:35 PM
The one and only Duncan Ferguson  :hail:
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Major Clanger on February 10, 2018, 10:49:19 PM
Why is this a thing?
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: dunkster on February 11, 2018, 03:04:37 PM
Who cares what he does...it's big Dunc
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: dunkster on February 11, 2018, 03:05:59 PM
I'm pretty sure lukaku was talking about how Dunc was working on his back-to-goal hold up play when he was here.
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Martip on February 11, 2018, 03:38:10 PM
I'm pretty sure lukaku was talking about how Dunc was working on his back-to-goal hold up play when he was here.
Obviously we don't know what he's doing behind the scenes but surely he has to take some credit in Rom taking his game to the next level .....
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Mick 1995 on February 23, 2018, 12:53:26 PM
Edit: tweet not working.

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2018/02/21/martina
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Jamokachi on February 23, 2018, 01:48:26 PM
Edit: tweet not working.

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2018/02/21/martina

"but he only puts out the cones..."
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Simon Paul on February 23, 2018, 02:01:31 PM
"but he only puts out the cones..."
Just puts them on the left of the pitch more these days
Title: Re: Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Hawkandro on February 23, 2018, 02:28:13 PM
He failed his coaching exam for me, but I was too scared to do anything about it.

I sacked him off straight away. Then I changed my name and location. Best to be sure.