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Title: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: Mick 1995 on February 14, 2018, 02:41:14 PM
Excerpt of Kieron Dyer's autobiography in the Echo (spelling mistakes are the Echo's):

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When you think about some of the most scary players the Prmeier League has ever seen, it's hard to look past Duncan Ferguson isn't it?

The Everton coach and cult hero was certainly an intimidating figure in his playing days - just ask the likes of Paul Ince and Steffen Freund.

But, a new story that has emerged from the Scotsman's days at Newcastle potentially takes his reputation up to a whole new level.

In an extract from his new book published by the Daily Mail , Kieron Dyer has revealed an incredible story involving Ferguson and a fellow former Everton man in Alessandro Pistone.

This was before the defender had made the move to Goodison Park and the pair were playing for Newcastle United - and Dyer has lifted the lid on the moment Ferguson made the Italian cry.
Duncan Ferguson was a scary man, Dyer said.

Once, in a five-a-side match, Alessandro Pistone kept making mistakes so Dunc screamed at him. "F*** off, Dunc," the Italian replied.

Dunc stopped dead, stood stock still, his eyes not moving off Pistone.

When training finished I went into the treatment room with Pistone for a massage.
The doors swung open. Dunc pointed at Pistone and invited him outside. Pistone had panic all over his face.
"'Don't make me ask you again or I'll come over there and drag you outside," said Dunc. By this time, tears were streaming down Pistone's face and he was jabbering. I was trying not to laugh, but I could see the rage in Dunc's eyes.

"'I will tell you this once,' Dunc said. 'If you ever tell me to f*** off again, I will crack your skull." Dunc turned and walked out of the door. Pistone was a wreck.
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: Macca77 on February 14, 2018, 03:10:31 PM
Fucking bully
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: sam of the south on February 14, 2018, 03:20:04 PM
Aww, I would imagine those dreamy, blue Charlie Chaplin eyes gleamed even brighter after that bout of booing 😭
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: TheRam on February 14, 2018, 03:24:19 PM
Man I hated Pistone.

What a proper shite player.
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: sam of the south on February 14, 2018, 04:25:05 PM
Man I hated Pistone.

What a proper shite player.

The utter grimness of our failed transfer policy after we'd qualified for the Champions League was emphatically underlined when we let Pistone go, only to re-sign him a few weeks later because we didn't have adequate cover, and then begin the season as our starting LB  :o

A few parallels there  ;D
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: Macca77 on February 14, 2018, 04:27:37 PM
The utter grimness of our failed transfer policy after we'd qualified for the Champions League was emphatically underlined when we let Pistone go, only to re-sign him a few weeks later because we didn't have adequate cover. 

That was the worst, Moyes was proper embarrassed
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: sam of the south on February 14, 2018, 04:33:13 PM
That was the worst, Moyes was proper embarrassed

So grim, so small-time.

Dinamo Bucharest et al.

I remember all the paper talk of Bellamy, Parker, and Forsell (all exciting propositions at the time) and we got in Phil Neville.
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: Macca77 on February 14, 2018, 04:38:52 PM
So grim, so small-time.

Dinamo Bucharest et al.

I remember all the paper talk of Bellamy, Parker, and Forsell (all exciting propositions at the time) and we got in Phil Neville.

I went looking for Forsell, he was meant to be staying in Beetham Tower on old hall street
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: sam of the south on February 14, 2018, 05:00:16 PM
I went looking for Forsell, he was meant to be staying in Beetham Tower on old hall street

Genius 😃

How long did you stakeout for?
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: Macca77 on February 14, 2018, 05:30:20 PM
Genius 😃

How long did you stakeout for?

About an hour, then i fucked off to the pub
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: Thornton_19 on February 14, 2018, 06:02:33 PM
So grim, so small-time.

Dinamo Bucharest et al.

I remember all the paper talk of Bellamy, Parker, and Forsell (all exciting propositions at the time) and we got in Phil Neville.
To be fair we did permanently sign Arteta as well.
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: Mick 1995 on February 14, 2018, 06:25:23 PM
Simon Davies
Per Kroldrup
Phil Neville
Matteo Ferrari
Nuno Valente
Andy Van Der Meyde


That was our play of getting through a 2 legged tie and having a crack at the champions league.
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: MmmblueBernard on February 14, 2018, 06:34:44 PM
Simon Davies
Per Kroldrup
Phil Neville
Matteo Ferrari
Nuno Valente
Andy Van Der Meyde


That was our play of getting through a 2 legged tie and having a crack at the champions league.

three out of six aint bad ;)
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: brap2 on February 14, 2018, 06:37:16 PM
I wanted forsell very much
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: sam of the south on February 14, 2018, 07:32:11 PM
To be fair we did permanently sign Arteta as well.

Yes, there was that.

Although he'd hardly blossomed at that point.
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 14, 2018, 09:31:48 PM
Excerpt of Kieron Dyer's autobiography in the Echo (spelling mistakes are the Echo's):


So that's what he does!
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: brap2 on February 15, 2018, 01:59:51 PM
Not into that tbh, bullying ahl arse
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: BlueForYou on February 15, 2018, 03:48:20 PM
There are hard people and there are bullies

And there's only one way to treat a bully - retaliate

Oh for a Johnny Morrissey!
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: Morta75 on February 20, 2018, 04:50:17 PM
Duncan Ferguson, premier leauge Legend and bad ass
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: Macca77 on February 20, 2018, 05:11:26 PM
Legend, really?
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: Mick 1995 on February 20, 2018, 05:25:38 PM
Legend, really?

An argument that pops up with regularity.

I think, as a club, the periods between winning nothing and being good are long enough that any player that wins something needs to be considered a legend.
Ferguson got an FA cup medal with us.

Conversley, the periods of success have come frequently enough that any player that doesn't actually win anything shouldn't be considered a legend.

In the great park i would build outside a stadium i would build for us there would be a forest of statues.
the statues would be of our greatest players.
The entry requirement would be to have won something. So Duncan and Gary Ablett are getting statues and, i'm afraid, Cahill and Arteta are not.

Vote 'Mick 1995'
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: Macca77 on February 20, 2018, 05:48:58 PM
An argument that pops up with regularity.

I think, as a club, the periods between winning nothing and being good are long enough that any player that wins something needs to be considered a legend.
Ferguson got an FA cup medal with us.

Conversley, the periods of success have come frequently enough that any player that doesn't actually win anything shouldn't be considered a legend.

In the great park i would build outside a stadium i would build for us there would be a forest of statues.
the statues would be of our greatest players.
The entry requirement would be to have won something. So Duncan and Gary Ablett are getting statues and, i'm afraid, Cahill and Arteta are not.

Vote 'Mick 1995'

Don't me wrong here, I loved Dunc, he was unplayable sometimes and the passion he has for the club and us fans is something special, but a legend he is not

(https://memecrunch.com/meme/B61GS/brewsters-millions/image.png?w=460&c=1)
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: starblood on February 21, 2018, 06:13:16 AM
Don't me wrong here, I loved Dunc, he was unplayable sometimes and the passion he has for the club and us fans is something special, but a legend he is not

(https://memecrunch.com/meme/B61GS/brewsters-millions/image.png?w=460&c=1)

If not him then who? Have we even had one (a legand) in the last 30 years in your opinion?

I don't think anyone would dispute Southall, and he finished playing for us around '97 - any since then?

[Genuine question BTW]
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: Tony Clifton on February 21, 2018, 06:28:51 AM
If not him then who? Have we even had one (a legand) in the last 30 years in your opinion?

I don't think anyone would dispute Southall, and he finished playing for us around '97 - any since then?

[Genuine question BTW]

None in my opinion.
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: TheRam on February 21, 2018, 02:04:00 PM
You don't have to win a cup to be a legend IMO.

Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: Macca77 on February 21, 2018, 02:08:49 PM
If not him then who? Have we even had one (a legand) in the last 30 years in your opinion?

I don't think anyone would dispute Southall, and he finished playing for us around '97 - any since then?

[Genuine question BTW]

Ermmmm, the only one I can think of is Cahill
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: Mick 1995 on February 21, 2018, 03:54:34 PM
You don't have to win a cup to be a legend IMO.



I'd say that was bare minimum for a club with out success to be honest.
Not the only criteria, but the minimum bar to pass.
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: TheRam on February 21, 2018, 03:57:18 PM
I'd say that was bare minimum for a club with out success to be honest.
Not the only criteria, but the minimum bar to pass.

What about Bob Latchford?
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: Mick 1995 on February 21, 2018, 04:00:41 PM
What about Bob Latchford?


The proof of the rule is the exception really.
30 goals in 1 season and top scorer for so many seasons kind of mitigates the lack of a cup.

Holding Latchford and his record for us against somebody like Pienaar is apples and oranges.
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: Macca77 on February 21, 2018, 04:03:49 PM
What about Bob Latchford?


One of my dads fav ever players, loved him

Jesus saves, but Latchford nets the rebound
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: Bally on February 21, 2018, 04:50:40 PM
One of my dads fav ever players, loved him

Jesus saves, but Latchford nets the rebound
One of my favourite people, he's boss is Bob
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: GLewis on February 22, 2018, 01:48:58 AM
The proof of the rule is the exception really.
30 goals in 1 season and top scorer for so many seasons kind of mitigates the lack of a cup.

Holding Latchford and his record for us against somebody like Pienaar is apples and oranges.

Dave Hickson?
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: Mick 1995 on February 22, 2018, 02:54:12 PM
Dave Hickson?

25 goals to get us promoted?

I'd say promotion is sufficient cause for celebration.
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: Toddacelli on February 22, 2018, 02:55:13 PM
If not him then who? Have we even had one (a legand) in the last 30 years in your opinion?

I don't think anyone would dispute Southall, and he finished playing for us around '97 - any since then?

[Genuine question BTW]


(http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/attachments/player-faces-facepacks/720387-cut-out-faces-blackmagic10-denisstracqualursi.png)
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: Escla on February 22, 2018, 06:23:52 PM
If not him then who? Have we even had one (a legand) in the last 30 years in your opinion?

I don't think anyone would dispute Southall, and he finished playing for us around '97 - any since then?

[Genuine question BTW]

If Dunc is a legend then Timmy Cahill is definitely one.
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: Bally on February 22, 2018, 06:41:02 PM
If Dunc is a legend then Timmy Cahill is definitely one.
Both nowhere deserving of the title but very good point
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: Mick 1995 on February 22, 2018, 06:54:24 PM
I refer back to my original point m'lud
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: formerKHL on February 22, 2018, 07:29:49 PM
Talking of legends.....and Bob Latchford

I always remember when Billy Butler was the stadium anouncer for us...some of his tannoy statements were legendary..

There used to be a flag hanging from the upper gwladys st..." bobby latchford walks on water"
Butler anounces over the tannoy during the match...
" can the person in upper gwladys street with the bob latchford flag please pull it in...we've just had an offer off derby county for him.."
for you young ones on here....The Derby's pitch was basically a muddy water laden bog at the time..i remember watching some of the players actually laughing...

Another one from butler....we were playing a foreign team in the cup winners cup at the time and there was only about 6 away fans there....."will all the away supporters please remain in the ground for ten minutes after the game please....your taxi is going to be late.."

He always said them during the game as well which was the reason they stopped him doing it....the palyers used to be in bulk...
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: Bingham Boy on February 22, 2018, 08:24:15 PM
About an hour, then i fucked off to the pub

I remember doing similar with Amokachi. My mate in work had a big birthday coming up and everyone signs a card. I had it on me in my dinner hour and saw Amo go into Wade Smith so I waited for him for a bit to come out and so he could sign it but had to give up after about 20 mins to get back to work.
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 22, 2018, 08:53:48 PM
Talking of legends.....and Bob Latchford

I always remember when Billy Butler was the stadium anouncer for us...some of his tannoy statements were legendary..

There used to be a flag hanging from the upper gwladys st..." bobby latchford walks on water"
Butler anounces over the tannoy during the match...
" can the person in upper gwladys street with the bob latchford flag please pull it in...we've just had an offer off derby county for him.."
for you young ones on here....The Derby's pitch was basically a muddy water laden bog at the time..i remember watching some of the players actually laughing...

Another one from butler....we were playing a foreign team in the cup winners cup at the time and there was only about 6 away fans there....."will all the away supporters please remain in the ground for ten minutes after the game please....your taxi is going to be late.."

He always said them during the game as well which was the reason they stopped him doing it....the palyers used to be in bulk...


Had them all holding their plums.

Baseball ground was always a laugh to go to - neanderthal, man. Auditions for One Million BC every home game.
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: BlueForYou on February 23, 2018, 01:15:21 AM
Unsworth close as legend

Over 300 games and over 30 goals over a decade playing, making his debut at 18

FA Cup winner

England appearance

Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: blue1948 on February 23, 2018, 01:28:07 AM
Talking of legends.....and Bob Latchford

I always remember when Billy Butler was the stadium anouncer for us...some of his tannoy statements were legendary..

There used to be a flag hanging from the upper gwladys st..." bobby latchford walks on water"
Butler anounces over the tannoy during the match...
" can the person in upper gwladys street with the bob latchford flag please pull it in...we've just had an offer off derby county for him.."
for you young ones on here....The Derby's pitch was basically a muddy water laden bog at the time..i remember watching some of the players actually laughing...

Another one from butler....we were playing a foreign team in the cup winners cup at the time and there was only about 6 away fans there....."will all the away supporters please remain in the ground for ten minutes after the game please....your taxi is going to be late.."

He always said them during the game as well which was the reason they stopped him doing it....the palyers used to be in bulk...

Butler got sacked if I remember right after we played Sheff Wed .He said just before the match started " Here is a late football result ,Everton 3 Sheff Wed 2. He was never on again which was sad as he really was funny. Is he still alive by the way ?
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: Jamokachi on February 23, 2018, 02:39:11 AM
If Dunc is a legend then Timmy Cahill is definitely one.

Dunc won the FA Cup... just to continue the "you have to win something" argument.
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: TheRam on February 23, 2018, 04:01:06 AM
Dunc won the FA Cup... just to continue the "you have to win something" argument.

He hardly had a big contribution towards that cup win though.

Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: Jamokachi on February 23, 2018, 11:12:12 AM
He hardly had a big contribution towards that cup win though.

:)
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: GLewis on February 23, 2018, 12:45:35 PM
25 goals to get us promoted?

I'd say promotion is sufficient cause for celebration.

Yes I agree that you need to contextualise - as non top tier achievements canít be seen in reference to us hardly ever playing there as legendary stuff.

No doubt that Dave Hickson is a legend (same with Latchford).
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: Toddacelli on February 23, 2018, 05:20:59 PM
Just to chip in - remember when you're putting someone forward as a legend the company they will keep - Dean - Southall - Ball - Stracqualursi

That will help you to see things in context.
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: formerKHL on February 23, 2018, 07:59:44 PM
Butler got sacked if I remember right after we played Sheff Wed .He said just before the match started " Here is a late football result ,Everton 3 Sheff Wed 2. He was never on again which was sad as he really was funny. Is he still alive by the way ?
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Yes he is i'm sure i heard him on merseyside a couple of months ago when over at me mams....


his competition hold your plums was legendary to...on a sunday morning....always remember him trying to get ananswer off a woman..teh answer was potatoes....and he was trying to break the syllables up..ie pot... eight... toes...must've went on for an hour him and his mate was laffing theor heads......they couldn't talk for for laffing which was not good on radio...but very very funny...
Title: Re: Dunc making Pistone cry
Post by: blue1948 on February 23, 2018, 10:17:42 PM
Butler got sacked if I remember right after we played Sheff Wed .He said just before the match started " Here is a late football result ,Everton 3 Sheff Wed 2. He was never on again which was sad as he really was funny. Is he still alive by the way ?
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Yes he is i'm sure i heard him on merseyside a couple of months ago when over at me mams....


his competition hold your plums was legendary to...on a sunday morning....always remember him trying to get ananswer off a woman..teh answer was potatoes....and he was trying to break the syllables up..ie pot... eight... toes...must've went on for an hour him and his mate was laffing theor heads......they couldn't talk for for laffing which was not good on radio...but very very funny...

There are lots on you tube including that one .Still laugh after the tenth time listening .Brilliant.