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Title: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Bromefc on February 17, 2018, 06:39:01 PM
been doing the rounds on twitter the last couple of days and people really looking on getting it going.

the Goodison atmosphere is dead, its a absolute joke.

so therefore starting from the street end a few groups are putting money together for a banner for the front behind the goal similar to Italian teams the way they do. then after that as many flags banners going before/during the game.

people willing to be involved in this? setting up a fund me page I think and going from there. the club are involved

also anyone who says its kopite behavior needs their heads checking. lets wake goodison up
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: ncstate4jpc on February 17, 2018, 06:45:25 PM
Doesn’t matter what flags and banners go up, it will always be difficult to get excited about 0 shots on target.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Bromefc on February 17, 2018, 06:48:08 PM
its a before the game kind of thing for me, get it going before z cars and all that and hopefully the game. I understand playing well and lovely football makes it easier but am sick of goodison being boring to go to on the aways now am jealous of like little clubs like Watford who are so much better
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Alanvideo on February 17, 2018, 07:04:02 PM
We've gone quieter and quieter over the years that's for sure and it mostly reflects the performance on the field.
We're still there in numbers but not in spirit.
Last week there was a brass /jazz  band walking round Goodison playing pop songs in the pissing rain .I thought they were brilliant and followed them round. They stopped outside the Winslow and about 3 people clapped. There's just no enthusiasm at the moment. 
We had a sell-out crowd after being humiliated at Arsenal ,the club shop was heaving ,queues at every till , what would it be like if we were playing well ?
So yes ,the flags is a great idea and I hope it comes off but the team need to play their part too.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Shropshire Blue on February 17, 2018, 07:10:40 PM
Doesn’t matter what flags and banners go up, it will always be difficult to get excited about 0 shots on target.
No need to piss on his thread when he's trying to do something positive is there?
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on February 17, 2018, 07:18:59 PM
No need to piss on his thread when he's trying to do something positive is there?

Unfortunately there is a little element of truth in it, especially if we're talking about trying to get a decent atmosphere going again.

The atmosphere is poor though, it's been that way for a few years now, long before Sam took over.

@Bally (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=19) and his megaphone was funny, things like that do make a difference.

If we start playing a similar formation to last week, Rooney, Davies, Walcott, Sig etc. Then it's a good foundation for us to play a more exciting attacking brand of football and hopefully that should help.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: ncstate4jpc on February 17, 2018, 08:09:04 PM
No need to piss on his thread when he's trying to do something positive is there?

Not pissing on anyone’s thread. With a positive style of play, the atmosphere will return. In Roberto’s first year, we were positive in attack and had an incredible Goodison atmosphere every match. It’s not about flags and banners, it’s about having a manager and squad that put in the full shift this club deserves.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: van der Meyde on February 17, 2018, 08:35:15 PM
I very much doubt it will improve the atmosphere, which I think is more of a cultural thing, but I love all this so the more of it the better.

Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Mayor Farnum on February 17, 2018, 09:24:52 PM
Doesn’t matter what flags and banners go up, it will always be difficult to get excited about 0 shots on target.

That's always been our main excuse for the pitiful atmosphere at Goodison; it's the team's job to get us going. The op is trying to take a bit of responsibility for creating a better atmosphere and it should be acknowledged.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 17, 2018, 09:48:16 PM
Serve free ale that'll do it.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: brap2 on February 17, 2018, 09:50:44 PM
Worth a go
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: van der Meyde on February 17, 2018, 09:50:47 PM
Serve free ale that'll do it.
Partly what I was getting at with the cultural thing this.

If you could drink in your seats and if people weren't so preoccupied with having a bevvy on the concourse or being in the boozer, the atmosphere might stand a chance.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Shropshire Blue on February 17, 2018, 11:25:03 PM
Not pissing on anyone’s thread. With a positive style of play, the atmosphere will return. In Roberto’s first year, we were positive in attack and had an incredible Goodison atmosphere every match. It’s not about flags and banners, it’s about having a manager and squad that put in the full shift this club deserves.
You could still be a bit more positive about someone who is at least trying. We all know the current problems but here is someone getting off his arse and having a go.
He deserves a bit of credit and support from us?
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: ncstate4jpc on February 17, 2018, 11:38:05 PM
You could still be a bit more positive about someone who is at least trying. We all know the current problems but here is someone getting off his arse and having a go.
He deserves a bit of credit and support from us?

I’m not slagging him off, fair play to him for coming up with an idea. I just think there is a better way to improve the atmosphere than flags and banners and it starts with Big Sam. Positive play goes much further than gimmicks. Players and managers need to take ownership of the atmosphere we have had this year, as our playing style simply does not generate the famous Goodison atmosphere. The attitude around the club this year has not been up to standard, that’s been the main problem. When the style changes, you’ll see the atmosphere change.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Waltzer on February 17, 2018, 11:52:30 PM
The atmosphere is poor, i dont know if I pay more interest cause its Everton but its also really noticeable when watching it on TV. Go as far as to say its probably the worst in the league, so anything that improves that is a help. Think were stuck in the comfort zone both on and the field, the only real noise is after z cars and when we moan, do feel sorry for most of the players although their performance dont help the matter.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: AllyBlue14 on February 18, 2018, 12:11:07 AM
I’m not slagging him off, fair play to him for coming up with an idea. I just think there is a better way to improve the atmosphere than flags and banners and it starts with Big Sam. Positive play goes much further than gimmicks. Players and managers need to take ownership of the atmosphere we have had this year, as our playing style simply does not generate the famous Goodison atmosphere. The attitude around the club this year has not been up to standard, that’s been the main problem. When the style changes, you’ll see the atmosphere change.

Goodison has been quiet for years, long before Allardyce came here. Yes, people are disillusioned with how this season has gone, but the atmosphere has been flat for ages.

Some clubs' supporters are buoyant no matter what - largely those that have just come into the league and don't know how long they'll be there - but that's more like what we should be aiming for.

Fair dues for trying something different to try and spark some life into the crowd.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: bogie on February 18, 2018, 12:28:03 AM
a well known song that Everton would call their own would help

Rangers were having the same thing some 10/12 years ago and took penny arcade as one of there songs its a crap song but it did what it had to for them
I don't know if they sung it years ago but I was going to a lot of rangers games in the 90,s and never heard it


sorry if that youtube upsets anyone but its only to show
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Alanvideo on February 18, 2018, 12:49:03 AM
a well known song that Everton would call their own would help

Rangers were having the same thing some 10/12 years ago and took penny arcade as one of there songs its a crap song but it did what it had to for them
I don't know if they sung it years ago but I was going to a lot of rangers games in the 90,s and never heard it


sorry if that youtube upsets anyone but its only to show

..............it's not a crap song it's a Roy Orbison classic you peasant .Thanks for posting   :cheers:
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: bogie on February 18, 2018, 01:02:19 AM
I know that but for a football song you would never have picked it but it worked
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Mayor Farnum on February 18, 2018, 01:05:05 AM
Remember the short lived song under the Johnson regime?
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Mayor Farnum on February 18, 2018, 01:09:39 AM
If we are looking for a song to get the atmosphere going before the match I would suggest Fields of Fire by Big Country.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Ramjam on February 18, 2018, 01:12:41 AM
Best way forward for this idea is to get the young kids involved and in return they will grow into the role and it will become second nature to them, the idea could take a decade to take hold property but I do think it’s a good one. Western Sydney Wanderers do it here in Australia and it has worked a treat for them.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Bally on February 18, 2018, 01:15:58 AM
been doing the rounds on twitter the last couple of days and people really looking on getting it going.

the Goodison atmosphere is dead, its a absolute joke.

so therefore starting from the street end a few groups are putting money together for a banner for the front behind the goal similar to Italian teams the way they do. then after that as many flags banners going before/during the game.

people willing to be involved in this? setting up a fund me page I think and going from there. the club are involved

also anyone who says its kopite behavior needs their heads checking. lets wake goodison up
We are in discussion with the group currently to see what we can work out, the fans forum that is not nsno
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Bally on February 18, 2018, 01:17:03 AM
Serve free ale that'll do it.
That was mentioned as a solution....
Not by me


Honest
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 18, 2018, 01:24:28 AM
That was mentioned as a solution....
Not by me


Honest

I believe you big feller  :whistle:
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Thornton_19 on February 18, 2018, 01:30:05 AM
Be boss. I'd love the street end to be booming with colour and movement before kick off. Hopefully it will translate into noise too.

I do feel a big part of the problem is how slow we always seem to start games. So everyone takes their seat and has to wait about 15 minutes before we do anything.

I feel they need to make a singing section but it probably won't be able to be implemented until Bramley Moore.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 18, 2018, 01:36:30 AM
Partly what I was getting at with the cultural thing this.

If you could drink in your seats and if people weren't so preoccupied with having a bevvy on the concourse or being in the boozer, the atmosphere might stand a chance.

Nowt wrong with the alehouse before the match as the bevvy does bring forth song in most people especially surrounded by thousands of  budding Roy Orbisons but sat there with plastic cup in hand kinda kills the mood a bit like at a baseball game in the hot sun with a few hot dogs down yer neck.
Maybe have Philadelphia Eagles style tailgate parties before the match only with free ale for the first 10,000 and see how it goes like.
Hooligans will all be passed out or locked up by noon thus ridding the stadium of scum before kick-off.

Like Bally said........
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: bogie on February 18, 2018, 01:49:49 AM
If we are looking for a song to get the atmosphere going before the match I would suggest Fields of Fire by Big Country.

think the key to a good one is being easy to hum or whistle to get the tune stuck in you head before you get to drunk

something like working man but would need some work by someone that's good at that sort of thing
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: bogie on February 18, 2018, 01:52:31 AM

easy tune that will get stuck in you head
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: GLewis on February 18, 2018, 02:08:15 AM
Anything is worth trying as long as it’s not dead cheesy.

It’s almost completely lost that we are supporters rather than spectators.

Fair enough if after 15 mins the game is poor, an atmosphere is likely to fizzle out.

But the onus currently is almost completely on the team.

And even then, if it’s someone we “should” be beating it’s only ok for about 5 mins of self congratulating “sing when we’re winning” stuff.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Ramjam on February 18, 2018, 05:31:22 AM
a well known song that Everton would call their own would help

Rangers were having the same thing some 10/12 years ago and took penny arcade as one of there songs its a crap song but it did what it had to for them
I don't know if they sung it years ago but I was going to a lot of rangers games in the 90,s and never heard it


sorry if that youtube upsets anyone but its only to show
That was truly amazing, that’s what we need at Goodison.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Simon Paul on February 18, 2018, 05:37:22 AM
We got slagged off when we gave away free flags to celebrate the life of Howard Kendall.  If he isnt worthy of flag waving then what is?
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Ramjam on February 18, 2018, 05:47:31 AM
We got slagged off when we gave away free flags to celebrate the life of Howard Kendall.  If he isnt worthy of flag waving then what is?
Like I said before, get the kids on board with it and they will carry it on then pass it on to their kids, hand them a flag each and they’ll love it and want to keep coming and make noise, that Rangers video was ace as is Celtic when you watch them singing, “ The fields of Athenry”
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Simon Paul on February 18, 2018, 05:48:37 AM
We gave all the kids megaphones one week
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Tony Clifton on February 18, 2018, 05:51:13 AM
How about...


Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: bogie on February 18, 2018, 05:52:50 AM
How about...




there back all ready
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: irishtoffee on February 18, 2018, 05:56:44 AM
How about...

Fuck that was louder than expected! Next you'll be suggesting vuvuzelas
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: irishtoffee on February 18, 2018, 06:05:22 AM
Is there anything to be said for increasing the number of away fans at all premier league games? I know if you're losing if would be extra torture but away fans usually increase the atmosphere of a game. I don't just mean Everton here but all grounds. Goodison is far from the only ground with this problem
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: burkey17 on February 18, 2018, 06:06:22 AM
I’m all for this type of initiative. As a STH the atmosphere is poor and I get fed up with ‘the Old Lady under floodlights’ scenario and this ‘bear pit atmosphere’ that won Everton the game. I did feel it in the past and ok by memory against Bayern it was special and Fiorentina was a good night.... although we lost and yes on a number of occasions since but in recent years it’s a no!
Yes times have gone on but you don’t come out the Ground ‘buzzing’. This year maybe Watford and West Ham but more of relief then anything! Yes we can say we’ll look at the dross we have been served blah blah... but if something can be started why not?
I’m not into the Happy clapper things but for atmosphere in the Prem I would say it works for Leicester and Huddersfield create atmosphere (ok the cynical ones would say they have just been promoted) and Palace are always game. I’m fully behind it but unfortunately in our fanbase there will have to be a big culture change for it to work at Home Games. Don’t go to Aways anymore but as we have only won twice in the last year I can understand why they have nothing to shout about!
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Shogun on February 18, 2018, 06:07:08 AM
As long as it doesn’t include those shite clapper things Leicester have and it isn’t like Crystal Palace where their singing section don’t seem to care about what’s happening on the pitch then I don’t mind.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Tony Clifton on February 18, 2018, 06:26:23 AM
Fuck that was louder than expected! Next you'll be suggesting vuvuzelas

Nah, fuck them off.  They should have been banned worldwide even before the 2010 world cup.  Could have killed many a child that year in the name of those bastard things.  Rattles, smoking and drinking on the terraces (install ashtrays on the backs of seats), and the return of National Service will sort us right out. ;)
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: bogie on February 18, 2018, 06:29:29 AM
seating has to come into it as well sitting with your mates will help it a lot
I did see and hear they would be looking at that for the new ground
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: brap2 on February 18, 2018, 07:26:13 AM
I went to Wigan the other week and there was shit loads of empty seats.

Stood up through the whole thing though, definitely felt differently to sitting there with my
Knees together squeezed between two ahl fellas.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: phillyt on February 18, 2018, 05:08:00 PM
In terms of pre match atmosphere allocated seating is definitely a negative.
If it was a free for all people would get there early doors, bag the decent seats (or spots on the terrace). As it is most people are still in the pub at 2:45 come in having spent nothing on food/drink or even a programme. Sit down to have the wind taken out of their sails by a drab (if we are lucky) start to the game.  If people were on the gwladys street from half one or whatever time the gates open, more money from pies, more money, from programmes. Allow beers down there till say 15 minutes till kick off. A bit of a buzz at 1:30 grows into a small sing song by two which carries on into the start of the match and hopefully beyond.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: JordanianEmbassy on February 18, 2018, 05:42:13 PM
The atmosphere in most stadiums gets slowly worse with each passing season, Goodison isn't much different to most other places with regards to this. ALLOCATED seating is probably the cause, because it stops those that want to sing naturally congregating together. This solution to this is standing/singing areas, but people trying to organise this get shouted down because the whole idea is misunderstood.

Personally, I'm not that fussed about banners and flags. And if one was in front of me obscuring my view, it would annoy me.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Bally on February 18, 2018, 06:51:25 PM
Just to make you all aware, every club are having meetings regarding their atmosphere, every club.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: TheRam on February 18, 2018, 06:55:53 PM
I'd hate to become a set of fans that bounces up and down singing songs all day. That's not a good atmosphere for a football match IMO.

All for flags and banners though. Personally think the group of fans behind this sort of thing are best putting their efforts toward the new ground.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Mayor Farnum on February 18, 2018, 07:00:51 PM
How about...




Wouldn't like to have to carry that fucker up to the top balcony!
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: JordanianEmbassy on February 18, 2018, 11:45:58 PM
I'd hate to become a set of fans that bounces up and down singing songs all day. That's not a good atmosphere for a football match IMO.

All for flags and banners though. Personally think the group of fans behind this sort of thing are best putting their efforts toward the new ground.

If you watch old footage of Goodison you can tell it was a lot noisier in every way.  But were Evertonians ever a set of fans that bounce up and down and sing songs all day? From what I can see certainly not in a cheesy way.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Bingham Boy on February 19, 2018, 12:06:18 AM
If you watch old footage of Goodison you can tell it was a lot noisier in every way.  But were Evertonians ever a set of fans that bounce up and down and sing songs all day? From what I can see certainly not in a cheesy way.
I remember a number of games where we sang non stop for 90 mins. Ok that's not bouncing up and down like.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: bogie on February 19, 2018, 12:16:47 AM
I remember a number of games where we sang non stop for 90 mins. Ok that's not bouncing up and down like.

yeah but some of them great songs then we can't use now
the song for Ross was great and the Roberto had a dream
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Shogun on February 19, 2018, 12:27:15 AM
yeah but some of them great songs then we can't use now
the song for Ross was great and the Roberto had a dream

Moshiri had a dream
to build a football team
We had loads of money and Walsh wasted it all
We hoof from the back
with nothing in attack
We've got Sam Allardyce and we'll never comeback
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Ross on February 19, 2018, 12:33:09 AM
How about...




I remember hearing some fella in the paddock in the early 90’s being told in no uncertain terms he’d need a bloody good surgeon to remove his rattle if he didn’t pack it in.

The game was about 3 minutes old when most had had enough of it.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Bingham Boy on February 19, 2018, 01:01:37 AM
yeah but some of them great songs then we can't use now
the song for Ross was great and the Roberto had a dream
We were doing it before those songs existed though.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: farnhamtoffee on February 19, 2018, 01:10:39 AM
The Street end & Park end were electric in the 70s,we had songs for most of the game ,no problem.Whatever happened to "When youre smiling",used to love that when everybody sang it ?
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Bally on February 19, 2018, 04:32:47 AM
I remember hearing some fella in the paddock in the early 90's being told in no uncertain terms he'd need a bloody good surgeon to remove his rattle if he didn't pack it in.

The game was about 3 minutes old when most had had enough of it.
Hahah I remember that too
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Mick 1995 on February 19, 2018, 05:12:29 PM
Ale. It's always been ale.

Now you've got to sit sobering up, surrounded by women. (It was only ever women that told me to sit down/get off my seat as a 15 year old and it's made me bitter and resentful, sorry). Under the threat of a ban if you swear too much/become too animated?

Remember the tanoys telling us to sit down somewhat-recently. Bell ends.
Shit football is no excuse, because i can remember large parts of the 90s still having a bear-pit like atmosphere.

Sky have made us sober customers and we're doomed to oblivion.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: formerKHL on February 19, 2018, 05:22:49 PM
Having grown up through the "singing pop songs" in the late 60's.....
Singing supporting your team songs in the 70's
Singing the hate your opponents, team, fans and everyone... hooligan songs of the 80's
into the cool 90's and PC brigade 2000's....

i think the "whole people culture change" is the biggest "problem" with poor atmosphere's now at most grounds....having followed the blues away to practically every ground in the country and most abroad too...i have always recently (past 20 years) felt the away games atmosphere was always better than the home games....

everyones scared nowadays of offending someone or something......without being prosecuted, fined, banned, club fines etc from grounds....

with regards to the team should lift the supporters.... the catch 22 argument is exactly that in reverse
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 19, 2018, 06:18:03 PM

Now you've got to sit sobering up, surrounded by women.

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Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: D15TIN on February 20, 2018, 09:46:49 PM
i'll stick a couple of quid in, there is too much sitting down and we have about 2 songs- performances would probably improve with supporters backing too
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Shropshire Blue on February 20, 2018, 10:03:16 PM
Ale. It's always been ale.

Now you've got to sit sobering up, surrounded by women. (It was only ever women that told me to sit down/get off my seat as a 15 year old and it's made me bitter and resentful, sorry). Under the threat of a ban if you swear too much/become too animated?

Remember the tanoys telling us to sit down somewhat-recently. Bell ends.
Shit football is no excuse, because i can remember large parts of the 90s still having a bear-pit like atmosphere.

Sky have made us sober customers and we're doomed to oblivion.
Now it is all seated whilst I understand people want to stand the fact is that those who can't stand for long, if at all, see little or nothing. What should be done about that?
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: D15TIN on February 20, 2018, 11:15:03 PM
Now it is all seated whilst I understand people want to stand the fact is that those who can't stand for long, if at all, see little or nothing. What should be done about that?
Maybe the lower gwladys should be seen as the standing stand -which it is really- if not comfortable standing there is 3 other stands to choose from
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Shogun on February 21, 2018, 12:04:37 AM
Wouldn’t it cheaper to just bribe the ref to give the opposition a really dodgy decision?

Commence Angry Goodison.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Shropshire Blue on February 21, 2018, 01:16:51 AM
Maybe the lower gwladys should be seen as the standing stand -which it is really- if not comfortable standing there is 3 other stands to choose from
It was a general observation - it's worse at away games.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Shropshire Blue on February 21, 2018, 01:27:40 AM
In the short term I can see only two things that will improve the atmosphere at any ground.
Unreserved seating so a seat is guaranteed, but not an exact one, meaning groups can get together. Risky if you're late getting in but a risk you know when you buy your ticket. Potential arguments about ' saving seats' as it fills up. Some element of disruption down the Isles towards kick off as latecomers are looking for empty seats in middle of rows etc. All that could be a stewards worst nightmare?
Secondly,  rail seating which would be the best solution.
After that you're into how you build a new ground that promotes a good atmosphere.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Thornton_19 on February 21, 2018, 02:36:54 AM
The lack of songs for our team and club I think contributes a lot too thinking about it.

What great songs do we have at the moment that everyone loves singing?
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Alanvideo on February 21, 2018, 03:15:23 AM
The lack of songs for our team and club I think contributes a lot too thinking about it.

What great songs do we have at the moment that everyone loves singing?
.................It's not the lack of songs it's the lack of spark from the field. When Hajduk Split fans came on the field the Park End erupted into 'run run whoever you may be ,we are the famous EFC ' hadn't heard it for years.  Like the Phil Neville tackle it just gets you going.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: boothill on February 21, 2018, 09:40:09 AM
We only sing when were winning, not very often then
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: JordanianEmbassy on February 21, 2018, 01:29:59 PM
The lack of songs for our team and club I think contributes a lot too thinking about it.

What great songs do we have at the moment that everyone loves singing?

We've had loads of songs over the last few years that people love singing.... but they only get sung at the aways .

We've actually had a few new ones as well, although one by one we've had to ditch them as people have left - Allez Allez Oh (which sounded amazing when we were first singing it), Roberto had a dream, We've got a Diamond etc.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Bromefc on February 21, 2018, 02:17:24 PM
to be fair we as fans cant do anything in regard to how the team plays or whos in charge, yes nobody wants sam in charge but is that worth ruining the going the game experience. if anyone is going to Watford Saturday they generally have a display before most games now after a fan group took over part of a stand and get it going and its really good. so if a team a lot smaller like Watford can and with less people why cant we. why do we have to be miserable sods who go the game all the time.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Macca77 on February 21, 2018, 02:30:35 PM
to be fair we as fans cant do anything in regard to how the team plays or whos in charge, yes nobody wants sam in charge but is that worth ruining the going the game experience. if anyone is going to Watford Saturday they generally have a display before most games now after a fan group took over part of a stand and get it going and its really good. so if a team a lot smaller like Watford can and with less people why cant we. why do we have to be miserable sods who go the game all the time.


Because we support Everton!!

The atmosphere at Goodison has been shite for years, its the same at most grounds nowadays unfortunately
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Bromefc on February 21, 2018, 03:25:42 PM
We got slagged off when we gave away free flags to celebrate the life of Howard Kendall.  If he isnt worthy of flag waving then what is?
its different fans making and taking banners and flags to the club giving free plastic ones out I think
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Toddacelli on February 21, 2018, 05:36:20 PM
As long as it doesn’t include those shite clapper things Leicester have and it isn’t like Crystal Palace where their singing section don’t seem to care about what’s happening on the pitch then I don’t mind.

I think Leicester have got it about right - but there's a lot of elements:

New ground
Good speaker system for music/announcements
Freebies on seats for everyone - that make noise
Gifts for STH's on special days - like the new chairman's birthday
Adopting a song from Kasabian

Oh - and romping the league from out of nowhere probably helped a wee bit too!

For a boring brand new stadium I think the atmosphere is pretty good there.

When we had this discussion a while back, there were some crazy vids from the yanks with people leading sections and stuff. Personally, I found them a touch cringy, but it's like dancing - I'm too self conscious until I've had 8 or 9 beers - then you can't get me off the dancefloor and I wish I could be like that sober. I don't know where I'm going with this post anymore. #BodyIssues #SelfImage #Derailed #CyForHelp
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Toddacelli on February 21, 2018, 05:36:38 PM
Proper rambled there.

Soz.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Mick 1995 on February 21, 2018, 05:47:17 PM
You're a fantastic dancer and a good egg.
You just be you todd
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 21, 2018, 05:55:29 PM
Proper rambled there.

Soz.
Oh Todd Todd Todd.
You are a star my friend
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Bally on February 21, 2018, 08:59:15 PM
I love you man
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: blue1948 on February 21, 2018, 10:15:11 PM
I remember a number of games where we sang non stop for 90 mins. Ok that's not bouncing up and down like.
There were lots of times I was in Glwadys St when the lads behind the goal had a conductor who never saw anything of the match ,they sang the whole match through .Of course we all joined in but I fear times have changed ,too many other things in peoples lives .For me the whole week was just about waiting for Saturday ,now it's  4/5 days a week and it has been diluted .
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Bingham Boy on February 21, 2018, 10:23:55 PM
There were lots of times I was in Glwadys St when the lads behind the goal had a conductor who never saw anything of the match ,they sang the whole match through .Of course we all joined in but I fear times have changed ,too many other things in peoples lives .For me the whole week was just about waiting for Saturday ,now it's  4/5 days a week and it has been diluted .

Yes that's right. Done it myself. It's phases in life as well, younger lads always come through and Everton is everything to them, plus they are into the partisan aspect of supporting Everton. Then kids and bills come along, and you forget what money even looks like.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: bogie on February 21, 2018, 10:35:19 PM
We need to ask Big Sam what is all time fav song is and sing it to him every week
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Simon Paul on February 21, 2018, 10:45:23 PM
We need to ask Big Sam what is all time fav song is and sing it to him every week

or delete it from history, burn all copies, and remove it from iTunes and Youtube.
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: bogie on February 22, 2018, 03:29:19 AM
or delete it from history, burn all copies, and remove it from iTunes and Youtube.

So will put you down as a mybe then
Title: Re: Artmosphere/Flags
Post by: Shogun on February 22, 2018, 05:02:42 AM
We need to ask Big Sam what is all time fav song is and sing it to him every week