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Title: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: formerKHL on May 17, 2018, 04:26:28 PM
very narcissistic and jim white being very patronising...
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: MarcusFenix on May 17, 2018, 04:30:01 PM
IMO he is being very gracious, not bitter at all.

Having said that I do think he's a bit deluded if he thinks that most Evertonians were happy with him
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Post by: TheRam on May 17, 2018, 04:30:34 PM
Still saying most people didn't want him out.

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Post by: Ramjam on May 17, 2018, 04:32:14 PM
Still saying most people didn't want him out.
Delusional
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Post by: Ross on May 17, 2018, 04:33:08 PM
Sounded like heíd got a banging hangover.
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Post by: 74Blue on May 17, 2018, 04:34:19 PM
Sounded like heíd got a banging hangover.
I'd have a fucking massive hangover if some cunt had just given me £6m for doing fuck all.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: formerKHL on May 17, 2018, 04:35:21 PM
i wont be bitter either when i get my £6 million pay off.....

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Post by: Ross on May 17, 2018, 04:37:12 PM
I'd have a fucking massive hangover if some cunt had just given me £6m for doing fuck all.

No to mention the £2m ďstaying upĒ bonus!
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: formerKHL on May 17, 2018, 04:37:31 PM
how can he possibly say "overall everton progressed under my time there" ?

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Post by: Macca77 on May 17, 2018, 04:38:26 PM
Must be hard for him to speak while Jim White is sucking his cock
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: AllyBlue14 on May 17, 2018, 04:41:14 PM
Regardless of your opinion on Allardyce, I think Everton could've handled the situation a lot better.

Why not just say that he has an 18-month contract but we'll take stock at the end of the season?

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Post by: GLewis on May 17, 2018, 04:47:22 PM
Regardless of your opinion on Allardyce, I think Everton could've handled the situation a lot better.

Why not just say that he has an 18-month contract but we'll take stock at the end of the season?



Apparently we wanted to insert a break clause but he demanded 18 months, no option.

Therefore it was up to him to be good enough to see that out.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: TheRam on May 17, 2018, 04:48:52 PM
Our fans phoning in are fucking idiots.

Not one person is articulating their point properley.

Someone saying he wants Moyes back for fucks sake.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: velimski on May 17, 2018, 04:49:39 PM
Sounded like heíd got a banging hangover.

Pints of wine can do that to you.
Title: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Ramjam on May 17, 2018, 04:50:23 PM
Our fans phoning in are fucking idiots.

Not one person is articulating their point properley.

Someone saying he wants Moyes back for fucks sake.
Probably Kopites phoning in taking the piss
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Post by: Macca77 on May 17, 2018, 04:51:52 PM
Our fans phoning in are fucking idiots.

Not one person is articulating their point properley.

Someone saying he wants Moyes back for fucks sake.

Deffo kopites
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Post by: TheRam on May 17, 2018, 04:56:39 PM
Nah they're defo Blues like
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Post by: WeimaranerBlues on May 17, 2018, 04:58:14 PM
and the last one a villa fan  "be careful what you wish for"  ---fuck off--
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Toffee1 on May 17, 2018, 05:01:11 PM
Thanks to all of you for the updates but I did not want to listen to his interview as he is no longer Everton manager and therefore, does not matter to me.

Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: formerKHL on May 17, 2018, 05:03:54 PM
Liverpool built their history on 1-0 wins throughout the 70's & 80's...however they were very entertaining, played good football and won trophies....(god that stuck in my throat)...

we got 1 -0 wins with one shot on goal....draws with no shots on target...

big difference..

and whichever way people want to paint it......it was terrible performances overall...and only the manager can take the responsibility for that...

I ask myself..if he hadn't come in the way he did..ie after 3 other managers...been with us all season and we finished where we did and the way we did.......would we have still kept him ??
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Post by: Macca77 on May 17, 2018, 05:05:13 PM
Nah they're defo Blues like

I hope they all stand barefoot on upturned plugs the stub their toes on table legs

Twats!!
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Post by: dunkster on May 17, 2018, 05:13:15 PM
Thanks to all of you for the updates but I did not want to listen to his interview as he is no longer Everton manager and therefore, does not matter to me.



Got to admit whilst there are obviously talking points here, I am also in the "let anything allardyce related" disappear down the thread list into oblivion.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: dunkster on May 17, 2018, 05:14:19 PM
That cunt is so up his own arse he will love the thought of his reign being discussed for ever and a day.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Macca77 on May 17, 2018, 05:16:26 PM
Erase from our memory, can we all agree that the last 6 months never happened....
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: formerKHL on May 17, 2018, 05:17:52 PM
it's about the club... a major talking point....the media are effectively siding with him, against us...

ie...slating the club....and this is a forum about everton..

PS...listen to the red dick on now....sez it all why it needs defending....total gobshite..
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Post by: SANA_DR0 on May 17, 2018, 05:21:23 PM
What did he expect,,as rightly said above he is/was delusional  he said some silly stuff, like west ham are as big as us, 'how can he play Lookman when he has a 30 million pound Bolasie'  the shit he said about away fans, that he doesnt care aslong as we win at home.. that fucking smirk when we lost to burnley.. and not using the squad to prepare for next season... if he had just looked to the future instead of being a boring fuck.. Everton fans might have given him a chance..

Initially he was like yay Everton... the only time he let players express themselves was against Liverpool in the cup, every other match the players where restricted from playing football....When the fans got on his back.. his BIG SAM ego kicked in.. and thus all the nonsense that i mentioned above (plus lots more that i cant even recall)
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Post by: Ravardo on May 17, 2018, 05:25:00 PM
Just seen a stat that we had 213 shots on goal since allardyce arrived the lowest out of all the prem teams
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Post by: formerKHL on May 17, 2018, 05:32:48 PM
and not many on target i'll bet..
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Post by: Ramjam on May 17, 2018, 05:35:40 PM
Any one know what the goals ratio is since he arrived against minuets in charge?
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Post by: velimski on May 17, 2018, 05:39:24 PM
Ray Parlour can fuck off too.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Ramjam on May 17, 2018, 05:41:55 PM
Why is it all these cunts put the slipper into us at every opportunity?
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Lxxx on May 17, 2018, 05:42:29 PM
He knew it was a 6 month appointment all along. I suppose he could have tried to reinvent himself for one last fling with the biggest club he had managed but the fact he didn't tells you everything about him.
He'd already created a narrative for himself which has served him well and rewarded him handsomely the past few decade, why change now and risk it by chancing expansive football only for it to blow up in his face.
He's preserved his reputation doing what he does and still has maybe one last big payday left at Xmas again if he wants it, with the next crisis club. 

His media appearances now are about deflecting blame. Horrible man.
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Post by: WeimaranerBlues on May 17, 2018, 05:43:33 PM
Liverpool built their history on 1-0 wins throughout the 70's & 80's...however they were very entertaining, played good football and won trophies....(god that stuck in my throat)...

we got 1 -0 wins with one shot on goal....draws with no shots on target...

big difference..

and whichever way people want to paint it......it was terrible performances overall...and only the manager can take the responsibility for that...

I ask myself..if he hadn't come in the way he did..ie after 3 other managers...been with us all season and we finished where we did and the way we did.......would we have still kept him ??
  If he arrived at the beginning of the season and everything finished the same --   then  NO  he fucked up his biggest  job ever , minus the England Job ,
together with the stats we keep seeing,   the the dour performances v  Spurs/Arsenal   and defensive setups against the likes of Bournemouth/WBA twice and the no shots on target period,  he missed the boat big time , he said this was the easiest job he had taken ,   BUT showed sign of change even after we got to 40pts

If we had beaten Burnley  ,  i think we would have finished 7th and thats the only way he may have kept his job   but it would have been same again next season
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: brap2 on May 17, 2018, 05:49:32 PM
Apparently we wanted to insert a break clause but he demanded 18 months, no option.

Therefore it was up to him to be good enough to see that out.

He knew the hand he was being dealt and played it rather cynically I think.

Fair enough I suppose, but it does make a mockery of the idea he wanted a big job to prove himself. He wanted 6 months and a pay off.
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Post by: blue slug on May 17, 2018, 05:56:23 PM
Sounded like heíd got a banging hangover.

Probably been sinking pints of gravy and vodka with a bovril chaser
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Macca77 on May 17, 2018, 06:00:48 PM
He was here for the money, its plain and simple really,

This job was his one big chance to prove all of the doubters wrong, to have a good go and see how if he could compete with the bigger boys, he failed, he just used the same tactics that hes done for all of his career, that won't wash here, which he has now discovered.

I will say this though, if he had connected with us fans and embraced the clubs history and values then maybe, just maybe he would still have a job, however he made no effort whatsoever to engage with us, not once did he praise us, he did the opposite and said shite in every press conference.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: TheRam on May 17, 2018, 06:01:31 PM
There's an obsession in this country with relegation and it's gotten to the point where a manager just keeping a team in the premier league (outside the top six) is now thought of as doing a good job.

God forbid a team like ourselves should show a bit of ambition and attempt to compete.
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Post by: TheRam on May 17, 2018, 06:07:28 PM
Also, if this was a foreign manager the reaction would be very different.
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Post by: Toffee1 on May 17, 2018, 06:07:59 PM
His time here works out at about £65,868 a day - not bad work if you can get it, so i don't have any feelings of sorrow for him.

The only ones who matter in all of this and who I feel sorry for are the fans who paid their hard earned money to go home and away to watch the crap that he served up.
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Post by: Gash on May 17, 2018, 06:12:34 PM
Didn't Moshiri say he'd be more careful with the likes of Jim White and the information he gave him? Seems to me White's got the hump with that and is sticking the boot in at every opportunity, he had Allardyce on SSN the other day and now has him on Talksport blowing smoke up his arse.

He blew it, he had every chance to prove that he's not a defensive manager and can set teams up to play football and he never did it. Even when we were safe he said he can't experiment with players as it's him that's in the firing line. Safe in the league and going to Swansea setting up not to lose it's grounds enough to sack the negative, self serving cunt.
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Post by: Macca77 on May 17, 2018, 06:13:21 PM
Mancini and Pellegrini both won trophies and titles with City - Both were sacked
Rogers almost won the league with the shite - he was sacked
Shite fans basically got Hodgson sacked

They brought replacements in to make them more successful, I don't recall there being much fuss made about it back then.

We sack a manager for getting us up to 8th and the ghosts of footballers past all crawl out of their caves and have a go at us, how dare Everton and their fans have ambition, they're not one of the Sky 6!!
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Post by: TheBlackWatchFanzine on May 17, 2018, 06:19:24 PM
He was here for the money, its plain and simple really,

This job was his one big chance to prove all of the doubters wrong, to have a good go and see how if he could compete with the bigger boys, he failed, he just used the same tactics that hes done for all of his career, that won't wash here, which he has now discovered.

I will say this though, if he had connected with us fans and embraced the clubs history and values then maybe, just maybe he would still have a job, however he made no effort whatsoever to engage with us, not once did he praise us, he did the opposite and said shite in every press conference.

Spot on. This was his chance to put the stereotypes about his style of football and abilities to bed. Instead he just reverted to type and always gave the impression that he was more important than the club, the players, and the fans.

The thing that's doing my head in is the amount of people the media are asking for opinions who have absolutely no affinity with Everton. Fucking Kevin Nolan, Jamie Redknapp, Paul Merson, all of whom completely missing the point. It's only been a day and I'm already sick of this "be careful what you wish for" patronising crap.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 17, 2018, 06:22:48 PM
It's almost like someone's a self aggrandizing cunt for 20-30 years, you pretty well can count on him staying that way.  No need to really "give him a chance" ya know?
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Post by: dunkster on May 17, 2018, 06:27:14 PM
You guys have allowed the bollocks that he comes out with, that the media climb on board and side with him, and then deduce that we ought be lucky with 8th, wind you up and effectively spoil the happiness that was yesterday.
 Ignore all the comments, they will be yesterday's news pretty soon. I for one couldn't give a fuck what non everton people say.
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Post by: GLewis on May 17, 2018, 06:30:11 PM
The be careful what you wish for thinking is linked to the need to change our image.

As mentioned before we need to show that even with an awful season we still finish 8th.

Allardyceís Ppg (33 Pts/ 24 games = 1.375) would give 52 pts over the season.

Thatís not enough even this season for European qualification.

But the perception with these people is that that was still good for us.

Non of the top 6 are ever considered relegation candidates and so any managerial changes are seen as a positive.

We wonít just jump into that bracket but we need to be portrayed/ seen as a team that fails if it doesnít qualify for Europe (or at least be in a position that often does) and also if it doesnít look likely that we will qualify the year after.
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Post by: Alanvideo on May 17, 2018, 06:31:33 PM
Are Talksport going to give Moyes the same platform ? if SA had any class he would have kept his mouth shut.
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Post by: dunkster on May 17, 2018, 06:35:57 PM
There's one fundamental thing they are all missing and that's ENTERTAINMENT. It's the Everton supporters who pay their bucks to watch the team.  And they want to be entertained.
If you go to a restaurant and they serve you tastless crap to eat, they could argue that your belly is still full and you got the nutrients you need to survive.  But at £40 a head you expect far more for your money.
They just don't get it...fuck em
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Post by: brap2 on May 17, 2018, 06:46:07 PM
Spot on. This was his chance to put the stereotypes about his style of football and abilities to bed. Instead he just reverted to type and always gave the impression that he was more important than the club, the players, and the fans.

The thing that's doing my head in is the amount of people the media are asking for opinions who have absolutely no affinity with Everton. Fucking Kevin Nolan, Jamie Redknapp, Paul Merson, all of whom completely missing the point. It's only been a day and I'm already sick of this "be careful what you wish for" patronising crap.

Going to be a lot of people who canít wait to stick the boot in at the first hurdle - I just hope we can all get behind whoever the new man is and keep some positivity going, hopefully have a stormer and rub it in their big fat faces.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: blueski on May 17, 2018, 06:46:37 PM
he is just doing whats required to ensure he gets a job again next season

some club will hire him in December or January for a nice £6-8m payday for a partial season worth of work again

It really is a quality gig if you can get it-avoid all the hassles of summer, and preseason preparation, save a club from relegation by managing it in a manner unthinkably dire to most managers, even those in trouble, get sacked and go on a 6 month holiday waiting for the next one
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: brap2 on May 17, 2018, 06:47:45 PM
There's one fundamental thing they are all missing and that's ENTERTAINMENT. It's the Everton supporters who pay their bucks to watch the team.  And they want to be entertained.
If you go to a restaurant and they serve you tastless crap to eat, they could argue that your belly is still full and you got the nutrients you need to survive.  But at £40 a head you expect far more for your money.
They just don't get it...fuck em

For me itís not even REALLY about entertainment, Iím not expecting jogs bonita, but we do need long term plans and progression - anyone with one working eyeball can see Sam is not, and has not ever been, the man for that.
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Post by: GLewis on May 17, 2018, 06:55:41 PM
For me itís not even REALLY about entertainment, Iím not expecting jogs bonita, but we do need long term plans and progression - anyone with one working eyeball can see Sam is not, and has not ever been, the man for that.

Yes itís the hope that it will be better next year that keeps you going.

Canít be starting the season with a ďwhatís the point?Ē attitude.

Although I do think that entertainment will be an increasing factor everywhere.

A combination of the cost of attending hitting Home and the chances of actually winning the league receding for all but a select few will reduce the acceptance of points at all costs and increase a demand for enjoyment.

Weíre in an interesting place as weíre unlike to be relegated and (very) unlikely to win the league.

If every team plays to par next season weíll finish 7th. So if thatís the case you need enjoyment on top of the hope that it will be better in terms of achievement the season after.
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Post by: Toffee1 on May 17, 2018, 07:03:17 PM
https://twitter.com/1kevincampbell/status/996977838787088384


https://twitter.com/1kevincampbell/status/997034936967278592
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Lxxx on May 17, 2018, 07:05:13 PM
The be careful what you wish for thinking is linked to the need to change our image.

As mentioned before we need to show that even with an awful season we still finish 8th.

Allardyceís Ppg (33 Pts/ 24 games = 1.375) would give 52 pts over the season.

Thatís not enough even this season for European qualification.

But the perception with these people is that that was still good for us.

Non of the top 6 are ever considered relegation candidates and so any managerial changes are seen as a positive.

We wonít just jump into that bracket but we need to be portrayed/ seen as a team that fails if it doesnít qualify for Europe (or at least be in a position that often does) and also if it doesnít look likely that we will qualify the year after.

This for me and should be a priority of Moshiri's now. He's got a second bite at the cherry, forget the false start and let's create the type of ambitious club players want to play for, sponsors want to be associated with and Sky/BT want to put on the TV again.
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Post by: Ravardo on May 17, 2018, 07:18:55 PM
Did anyone hear the everton fan on talkshite being abusive i missed it but heard them apologising fort it?
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Ross on May 17, 2018, 07:24:49 PM
Apparently we wanted to insert a break clause but he demanded 18 months, no option.


You can imagine Silvas agent is rubbing his hands hearing stuff like this.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: GLewis on May 17, 2018, 07:32:47 PM
You can imagine Silvas agent is rubbing his hands hearing stuff like this.

Well I think we were happy to essentially take out expensive insurance cover.

An extra £6m is cheaper than finishing 13th even, compared to 8th.

Itís hard to just stop paying a certain level of wage as any agent will point to the previous encumbentís wage (as would anyone in the normal world) but with all the changes Iíd expect it to be more realistic.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: American Evertonian on May 17, 2018, 07:35:17 PM
Liverpool built their history on 1-0 wins throughout the 70's & 80's...however they were very entertaining, played good football and won trophies....(god that stuck in my throat)...

we got 1 -0 wins with one shot on goal....draws with no shots on target...

big difference..

and whichever way people want to paint it......it was terrible performances overall...and only the manager can take the responsibility for that...

I ask myself..if he hadn't come in the way he did..ie after 3 other managers...been with us all season and we finished where we did and the way we did.......would we have still kept him ??


Different eras mate. Don't think that Liverpool squad would be grinding out wins against modern day City or Liverpool.

In addition, I would say players are faster, bigger, and more skilled now days than in the 70's and 80's so those days are likey gone.

I don't think being 19th and 20th in almost all offensive stats would save anyone their job unless they make CL as a team outside the top 6. Big Sam has antiquated tactics and is the only one that can't see that. He should be thanking us for giving him a job after disgraceful fall from the England job.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Ross on May 17, 2018, 07:43:29 PM
Well I think we were happy to essentially take out expensive insurance cover.

An extra £6m is cheaper than finishing 13th even, compared to 8th.

Itís hard to just stop paying a certain level of wage as any agent will point to the previous encumbentís wage (as would anyone in the normal world) but with all the changes Iíd expect it to be more realistic.

Hopefully whoever comes in gets a deal truly representative of their ability. Promise them the earth if itís what it takes just learn some lessons from the past and make it heavily incentivised to keep them hungry and focused.
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Post by: sam of the south on May 17, 2018, 08:51:49 PM
Itís not even the entertainment thing for me.

It was the lack of sustainability in all of the approaches of our last three permanent managers.

Their philosophy and tactics didnít produce enough quality, clear-cut goal scoring opportunities, and at the same time they didnít limit the opposition enough at the other end.

Even Martinezí first season was supplemented by a fair amount of screamers from outside the box.

It was juxtaposed with a lot of us laughing at Rogers early days at The Shite, but they were still having 20+ shots per game, and it took a change of tactics to lobbing it over the top for the pace of Sterling and Suarez and then they nearly won the league.
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Post by: Toffee1 on May 17, 2018, 08:59:49 PM
Some fans according to this still want him.

https://www.footballtransfertavern.com/premiership/what-a-coup-that-would-be-leeds-united-fans-on-twitter-urge-club-to-make-move-for-boss/

Given the site it comes from I am thinking it is lazy journalism based on one tweet.
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Post by: blue1948 on May 17, 2018, 09:24:15 PM
For me itís not even REALLY about entertainment, Iím not expecting jogs bonita, but we do need long term plans and progression - anyone with one working eyeball can see Sam is not, and has not ever been, the man for that.
It is about entertainment for the fans ,business for the club but for us it has to be entertainment first .
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Post by: Cereal Killer on May 17, 2018, 09:53:37 PM
Let's not get dragged into the entertainment argument

Clearly having the least shots/shots on target and letting the opposition have a stupidly high number of shots is an obvious recipe for relegation, and continued over a whole season may well have ended in that. It certainly doesn't represent an ambitious team or even a cohesive solid team that can grind out results
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Post by: Brownie on May 17, 2018, 10:42:19 PM
Seems his son is an even bigger bellend. His tweet last night needs to be screen shot, printed off and then rammed down his throat.

https://mobile.twitter.com/_doggsy/status/996853602713923585?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.liverpoolecho.co.uk%2Fsport%2Ffootball%2Ftransfer-news%2Feverton-news-transfer-rumours-live-14660998&tfw_creator=LivEchonews&tfw_site=LivEchonews
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Post by: Gash on May 17, 2018, 10:51:09 PM
It's all a bit patronsing with this "what more do they expect". It's like everyone outside of the top six should just be grateful to be in the Premier League and accept mid table mediocrity. Heaven help a club should actually have a bit of ambition and try to break into the top 4/6, hard as it will be.

We recently finished 5th, we've been the best equipped club (allowing for Leicester's freak season) to break in to the top 6 in recent season, we've just finished 5 points below the mighty Burnley who went something like 12 games without a win at one point and Arsenal have had one of their worst seasons in a generation and we still didn't capitalise on it. So I think we're perfectly entitled to feel that we might just have missed a trick this year and it's fair to have expected a bit more than Allardyce offered for the last few months.
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Post by: blue1948 on May 17, 2018, 10:55:12 PM
Seems his son is an even bigger bellend. His tweet last night needs to be screen shot, printed off and then rammed down his throat.

https://mobile.twitter.com/_doggsy/status/996853602713923585?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.liverpoolecho.co.uk%2Fsport%2Ffootball%2Ftransfer-news%2Feverton-news-transfer-rumours-live-14660998&tfw_creator=LivEchonews&tfw_site=LivEchonews
Just look at his job description -LIVING OFF DAD
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Gash on May 17, 2018, 10:56:52 PM
Seems his son is an even bigger bellend. His tweet last night needs to be screen shot, printed off and then rammed down his throat.

https://mobile.twitter.com/_doggsy/status/996853602713923585?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.liverpoolecho.co.uk%2Fsport%2Ffootball%2Ftransfer-news%2Feverton-news-transfer-rumours-live-14660998&tfw_creator=LivEchonews&tfw_site=LivEchonews

Not playing attractive football and winning the Europa League is one thing, not playing attractive football and getting pumped 5-1 at Arsenal, 4-1 at Tottenham, drawing at home to West Brom, losing away to Burnley and Watford and drawing away to Swansea is a totally different matter. And not to mention the wins that were less than convincing.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Brownie on May 17, 2018, 10:58:22 PM


I didn't see that but one of my thoughts for a potential reply was 'shouldn't you be praying for your dad's morbid obesity to kick in so you can inherit all that money he's just received.' But then I remembered I'm much better than that 😉
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Jacko4468 on May 17, 2018, 11:11:03 PM
There's one fundamental thing they are all missing and that's ENTERTAINMENT. It's the Everton supporters who pay their bucks to watch the team.  And they want to be entertained.
If you go to a restaurant and they serve you tastless crap to eat, they could argue that your belly is still full and you got the nutrients you need to survive.  But at £40 a head you expect far more for your money.
They just don't get it...fuck em
couldnít of put it better
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Macca77 on May 17, 2018, 11:45:16 PM
Seems his son is an even bigger bellend. His tweet last night needs to be screen shot, printed off and then rammed down his throat.

https://mobile.twitter.com/_doggsy/status/996853602713923585?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.liverpoolecho.co.uk%2Fsport%2Ffootball%2Ftransfer-news%2Feverton-news-transfer-rumours-live-14660998&tfw_creator=LivEchonews&tfw_site=LivEchonews

Imagine trying to compare your dad who's won fuck all in over 20 years as a manager, to Simeone, who has won 8 trophies in 6 years at a massive club in a league which is normally dominated by 2 teams
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Bluedylan on May 18, 2018, 12:21:48 AM
Have a listen to this for an informed view of the situation in the media. We're the first point of discussion:

https://audioboom.com/posts/6860109-welbeck-or-bust-melchester-rovers-and-paging-jody-morris
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Post by: TheRam on May 18, 2018, 12:27:08 AM
Have a listen to this for an informed view of the situation in the media. We're the first point of discussion:

https://audioboom.com/posts/6860109-welbeck-or-bust-melchester-rovers-and-paging-jody-morris

You had me at paging Jody Morris.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: brap2 on May 18, 2018, 12:46:17 AM
Tomorrowís commute that.

Usually reserve Fridays for hip hop so I can start feeling the groove, but didnít listen to any pods today.

Perhaps Friday home commute can be hip hop hour.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Redartin on May 18, 2018, 01:18:37 AM
Probably Kopites phoning in taking the piss
I think the whole thing was a piss take. Bear in mind Big SAm is now joining the Talksport team. A team that say things to wind people up and get them to phone in. So he goes on and says the majority of Evertonians were happy with him, on comes Jim White with his, ďdo Everton fans agree with thatĒ, the phone lines light up, and we have a show. Simply.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: blue slug on May 18, 2018, 01:22:44 AM
I see being a delusional bellend runs in the family, what a weapon
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: velimski on May 18, 2018, 01:25:26 AM
Rather unfortunate for him that he inherited his dad's massive head.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: TheTone on May 18, 2018, 01:25:33 AM
When we appoint a new manager is there anyway some whizz kid lid can do something on this forum and the whole of the internet and wipe out all references to  Allardyce and Everton that ever existed, sound
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on May 18, 2018, 01:58:52 AM
Allardyce is an opportunist and con merchant of the highest order. Offered a 6 month deal and dragged it out by not giving us an answer,  we moved on albeit desperate and went back to him when he saw the opportunity to screw the club over.

He was never ever interested in being given an opportunity to manage the biggest club and prove himself by going over and beyond what he does. He was happy just to play it safe, do the minimum required and treat the club and everyone associated as mugs, whilst maximising his bank balance.

Sums up the man when he mentions that his backroom staff are disappointed by whats happened and how difficult it is for them to get back into football. Just one selfish horrible knobhead.
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Post by: eyesalwaysblue on May 18, 2018, 02:57:02 AM
A fume with Allardyce is like buying a dog and hating it when it behaves like a dog.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Toffee1 on May 18, 2018, 03:02:31 AM
https://twitter.com/Meisarch/status/997143384090439680
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Ramjam on May 18, 2018, 04:04:43 AM
Mancini and Pellegrini both won trophies and titles with City - Both were sacked
Rogers almost won the league with the shite - he was sacked
Shite fans basically got Hodgson sacked

They brought replacements in to make them more successful, I don't recall there being much fuss made about it back then.

We sack a manager for getting us up to 8th and the ghosts of footballers past all crawl out of their caves and have a go at us, how dare Everton and their fans have ambition, they're not one of the Sky 6!!
Post of the day, fuckin nailed it
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Evertonian in NC on May 18, 2018, 08:27:17 PM
Expecting Allardyce to behave with class would be like expecting one's cat to recite the Gettysburg Address.  In Latin.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: TSGun on May 18, 2018, 09:05:09 PM
He actually did a decent job.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: sirblue57 on May 18, 2018, 09:12:44 PM
He actually did a decent job.

your cat? get it on BGT cowell will love it
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Macca77 on May 19, 2018, 04:13:25 AM
https://twitter.com/EvertonBlueArmy/status/997578948551872514

https://twitter.com/EvertonBlueArmy/status/997579275028090882
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Toffee1 on May 19, 2018, 04:20:14 AM
https://twitter.com/EvertonBlueArmy/status/997578948551872514

https://twitter.com/EvertonBlueArmy/status/997579275028090882

He probably had more shots at the bar in his Spanish house than the team did in the game.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Jamokachi on May 19, 2018, 06:54:53 AM
His house that he built in Spain is called Casa St James. He named it that, as he built it with the pay-off he got from Newcastle. Stay classy, Samuel.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Ramjam on May 19, 2018, 06:56:45 AM
His house that he built in Spain is called Casa St James. He named it that, as he built it with the pay-off he got from Newcastle. Stay classy, Samuel.
So maybe heíll call his granny flat Sir Rupertís place
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Jamokachi on May 19, 2018, 07:04:40 AM
He can build Toffee Town with the amount we fucking paid.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: TSGun on May 19, 2018, 03:15:43 PM
your cat? get it on BGT cowell will love it
Haha I'm not trying to defend him at all but it's all a bit over the top really.

He's gone, happy days, we move on.
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Post by: sirblue57 on May 19, 2018, 05:15:46 PM
 :shock:
Haha I'm not trying to defend him at all but it's all a bit over the top really.

He's gone, happy days, we move on.
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Haha I'm not trying to defend him at all but it's all a bit over the top really.

He's gone, happy days, we move on.

Your cats gone? :shock: :'(
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Bob Sacamano on May 19, 2018, 06:21:01 PM
His house that he built in Spain is called Casa St James. He named it that, as he built it with the pay-off he got from Newcastle. Stay classy, Samuel.

Is this real?
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: SANA_DR0 on May 19, 2018, 06:23:27 PM
He actually did a decent job.

being negative against lowly teams is not decent... playing no attacking football, is not decent.
not utilizing his squad so he could build for next year is not decent, dissing the fans and the club is not decent.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Bluedylan on May 19, 2018, 06:25:41 PM
Is this real?

Yep
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Toffee1 on May 19, 2018, 06:29:01 PM
Is this real?

https://twitter.com/_AndyHa/status/781506226517643265
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Bob Sacamano on May 19, 2018, 06:50:37 PM
Yep

Itís really unwholesome.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Toffee1 on May 19, 2018, 06:54:43 PM
Itís really unwholesome.

Just like it's owner.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: toffee_scot on May 19, 2018, 06:59:53 PM
I'm so glad we can finally close this short but unsavoury chapter of the club's history.

Onwards and upwards, NSNO.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 19, 2018, 07:18:34 PM
Hope he calls his next villa casa nsno
And he stays there forever, rocking back and forth in his chair muttering more fans liked me, they did
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Toffee1 on May 19, 2018, 07:27:43 PM
Hope he calls his next villa casa nsno
And he stays there forever, rocking back and forth in his chair muttering more fans liked me, they did

Picking petals of a flower saying ' they liked me, they liked me not"
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 19, 2018, 07:32:33 PM
Echo quoting that podcast @Bluedylan (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3747) posted the other day today!!!
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on May 19, 2018, 07:37:32 PM
Can we just close this negative, wallowing, piss- flap of a thread?
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Post by: GLewis on May 19, 2018, 09:39:00 PM
Imagine being pyar paid and buying a villa in Benidorm.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Bluedylan on May 19, 2018, 09:55:29 PM
Did GLewis just say 'pyar'? What fresh hell is this? Is the apocalypse nigh?
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 19, 2018, 10:02:34 PM
Did GLewis just say 'pyar'? What fresh hell is this? Is the apocalypse nigh?
Blending in init
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Alanvideo on May 19, 2018, 10:28:23 PM
Imagine being pyar paid and buying a villa in Benidorm.
..................was just going to say this ( not the pyar bit ) but being able to build anywhere and choosing Benidorm . Shows what a classless fuck he is.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: GLewis on May 19, 2018, 10:30:11 PM
Did GLewis just say 'pyar'? What fresh hell is this? Is the apocalypse nigh?

Itís the off season...
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: TheRam on May 19, 2018, 10:38:57 PM
Did GLewis just say 'pyar'? What fresh hell is this? Is the apocalypse nigh?

Heads gone here.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Lxxx on May 19, 2018, 10:46:05 PM
His house that he built in Spain is called Casa St James. He named it that, as he built it with the pay-off he got from Newcastle. Stay classy, Samuel.

Heís a proper caricature of what an absolute bellend would look like on an episode of Phoenix Nights.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: brap2 on May 20, 2018, 12:17:58 AM
Heís such a brexit head
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Paddockoldie on May 20, 2018, 12:38:44 AM
Heís a proper caricature of what an absolute bellend would look like on an episode of Phoenix Nights.

'Casa I was shite' doesn't have  the same ring to it, despite the accuracy.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: MmmblueBernard on May 20, 2018, 01:05:32 AM
'Casa I was shite' doesn't have  the same ring to it, despite the accuracy.

Casa Bisto.
Title: Re: allardyce trying to justify himself on talksport now..
Post by: Hawkandro on May 21, 2018, 03:30:09 PM
His house that he built in Spain is called Casa St James. He named it that, as he built it with the pay-off he got from Newcastle. Stay classy, Samuel.

Looking forward to hearing about his new bathroom then; Le Blue Shitteur.