Post by: Morta75 on May 31, 2018, 09:11:14 PM
Post by: blargins on May 31, 2018, 09:12:38 PM
Post by: Rodenplav64 on May 31, 2018, 09:18:01 PM
Everything is finally in locked in place. Let's get on with the rebuilding.
Yep its done . Its done early and despite some reservations at least there is no fucking around . Hope the rest of our business over the summer follows suit but positive signs .
Post by: Ross on May 31, 2018, 09:18:11 PM
Post by: American Evertonian on May 31, 2018, 09:19:01 PM
Post by: Crackling on May 31, 2018, 09:20:11 PM
We've needed a manager who has a tactical plan, creates disciplined teams and likes to attack.
I'm looking forward to enjoying watching us again.
Post by: Waltzer on May 31, 2018, 09:23:09 PM
Honestly hope the trend of bringing players from previous positions doesn't happen here unless it is Richarlson or Dracoure. Can't stand to see another Martina, Robles, etc come with the manager because he is familiar with them
Cleverley looked okay at times too!! :)
Post by: Alanvideo on May 31, 2018, 09:23:11 PM
Post by: Cereal Killer on May 31, 2018, 09:23:56 PM
Post by: Cereal Killer on May 31, 2018, 09:24:33 PM
His back-up team all confirmed on SSN ,no mention of Dunc yet . :wag:
They confirmed he'd be kept on as part of the coaching team
Post by: Macca77 on May 31, 2018, 09:27:55 PM
Post by: Alanvideo on May 31, 2018, 09:32:30 PM
They confirmed he'd be kept on as part of the coaching team............he's a lucky guy then.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on May 31, 2018, 09:32:47 PM
I think he’ll do fine. Not exactly following much with allardyce koeman and Martinez.
Post by: Mac934 on May 31, 2018, 09:33:36 PM
Post by: blargins on May 31, 2018, 09:35:40 PM
How long before his lovely dark hair turns grey?
He'll look lovely in silver. Just like me.
Post by: bluestevie on May 31, 2018, 09:38:55 PM
Who are the back up team please?
Assistant - Joao Pedro
GK Coach - Hugo Oliveira
Technical Scout - Antonis Lemonakis
Fitness Coach - Pedro Conceicao
First Team Coach - Duncan Ferguson
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 31, 2018, 09:40:39 PM
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 31, 2018, 09:41:44 PM
Post by: bluestevie on May 31, 2018, 09:43:01 PM
ok, yep, i fancy him... his voice mY GOD
Easy girl, don't want the site getting flooded now lol
Post by: Bluedylan on May 31, 2018, 09:44:40 PM
Post by: Gash on May 31, 2018, 09:45:16 PM
Post by: Bluenose 91 on May 31, 2018, 09:46:27 PM
You'd like to think Brands, Silva and the board have been in contact discussing such things before these official announcements like.
Post by: Faceatthefence on May 31, 2018, 09:47:06 PM
They confirmed he'd be kept on as part of the coaching teamGood,the pigeons in his loft were all shitting themselves.
Post by: Sir Stealth on May 31, 2018, 09:48:23 PM
Post by: blue1948 on May 31, 2018, 09:51:19 PM
Post by: Macca77 on May 31, 2018, 09:51:19 PM
William Carvalho and Richarlison double swoop imminent
Calvalho looks a certainty
Post by: TheRam on May 31, 2018, 09:53:51 PM
Anyone reckon we'll get any players in before the World Cup?
You'd like to think Brands, Silva and the board have been in contact discussing such things before these official announcements like.
Big willy from sporting would be my shout.
I reckon brands and silva have this all planned ahead in advance.
Post by: blargins on May 31, 2018, 09:58:34 PM
Post by: Gash on May 31, 2018, 10:00:04 PM
Reckon Ross Barkley will be thinking, wish I'd stayed now?
He'll be the only one. :whistle:
Post by: Bluedylan on May 31, 2018, 10:00:25 PM
Post by: Waltzer on May 31, 2018, 10:03:01 PM
William Carvalho and Richarlison double swoop imminent
I dont get the Richarlison thing if im honest, they'd want an absolute fortune for him and when ive seen him play he hasnt looked particularly great. I get that hes still young, but it looks like he has a long way to go to make it to the top.
Post by: TheRam on May 31, 2018, 10:03:07 PM
That bodes well.
Post by: Bluedylan on May 31, 2018, 10:04:49 PM
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 31, 2018, 10:06:24 PM
Post by: BlueForYou on May 31, 2018, 10:08:25 PM
Hope the fans stay faithful to you, otherwise you'll feel like a Lone Ranger
"Hi-Yo Silva, Away................!"
Nothing But The Best to you, Marco - a Brands new start!
Looking forward to it
Post by: Fynci on May 31, 2018, 10:09:45 PM
Post by: TheRam on May 31, 2018, 10:09:46 PM
Post by: School of Science on May 31, 2018, 10:12:29 PM
We do need a whole new spine in our team, but we have a lot of deadwood on high wages which will be hard to shift. Would like to see gradual improvement, better football and for us to have a go at the top six, not expecting miracles. But wish him all the best at our great club.
Post by: Normm on May 31, 2018, 10:12:40 PM
Post by: Faceatthefence on May 31, 2018, 10:15:20 PM
Like to see him given time and patience from our fans and board alike. He wants us to play football again, it will take time, especially with the group of players we have. We saw last year that a lot of changes doesn't always make instant success.Grounded reaction from seamus,saying we as a group of players have got to keep the manager in his job.
We do need a whole new spine in our team, but we have a lot of deadwood on high wages which will be hard to shift. Would like to see gradual improvement, better football and for us to have a go at the top six, not expecting miracles. But wish him all the best at our great club.
Post by: Omar on May 31, 2018, 10:19:31 PM
Grounded reaction from seamus,saying we as a group of players have got to keep the manager in his job.
and the comment "we have a lot of deadwood on high wages which will be hard to shift."
is true and that takes some balls to say, wonder who specifically he's talking about?
Post by: blue slug on May 31, 2018, 10:20:10 PM
im so excited you know.... MARCO AND MARCEL'S BLUE ARMY.
I must admit I'm getting more excited and have a better feeling with this silva/brands appointment than I have with any other appointment going back a long time
Post by: Bluedylan on May 31, 2018, 10:22:18 PM
I think he's really talented, and we've just got him at a stage when he has a point to prove. He's been at a couple of basket case clubs in England so far. I think this might be a nice convergence of the right job at the right time, for him and us.
Post by: Macca77 on May 31, 2018, 10:27:58 PM
Post by: blue slug on May 31, 2018, 10:28:02 PM
Post by: Martip on May 31, 2018, 10:34:28 PM
Post by: blargins on May 31, 2018, 10:36:37 PM
Zidane didn’t get his application in on time!
He's coming in to replace Dunc as the cone guy.
Post by: Brownie on May 31, 2018, 10:36:54 PM
Post by: Toffee1 on May 31, 2018, 10:42:12 PM
https://twitter.com/ALANMYERSMEDIA/status/1002201396605792262
Post by: jonni on May 31, 2018, 11:18:03 PM
Post by: dazfrancis on May 31, 2018, 11:18:47 PM
I am really looking forward to watching actual football at Goodison next season.
Post by: Silas on May 31, 2018, 11:39:08 PM
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 31, 2018, 11:40:17 PM
Really pleased about this. It is OK for me to be fucking excited about this right?Nope
Post by: Waltzer on May 31, 2018, 11:59:11 PM
https://royalbluemersey.sbnation.com/2018/5/31/17413416/marco-silva-new-everton-manager-seamus-coleman-quotes-players-step-up-allardyce
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on June 01, 2018, 12:10:01 AM
ok, yep, i fancy him... his voice mY GODSteady now Tinkerbell..
Post by: Silas on June 01, 2018, 12:13:45 AM
Nope
Tough you can't tell me how to feel man. Only my wife can do that
Post by: Macca77 on June 01, 2018, 12:17:21 AM
Post by: Tinga on June 01, 2018, 12:30:52 AM
Connected to the fans with what he said, that's how you do it
Martinez was also connected to the fans, not to be a complete fucking downer though.
Post by: Macca77 on June 01, 2018, 12:34:44 AM
Martinez was also connected to the fans, not to be a complete fucking downer though.
This is true, however Silva didn't say "good moment" or "phenomenal"
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on June 01, 2018, 12:39:48 AM
https://twitter.com/eirSport/status/1002216037495001089
Post by: everton1952 on June 01, 2018, 12:43:14 AM
Post by: Escla on June 01, 2018, 12:51:07 AM
Really pleased about this. It is OK for me to be fucking excited about this right?
Not according to El Captain no !
Post by: Silas on June 01, 2018, 12:51:39 AM
Martinez was also connected to the fans, not to be a complete fucking downer though.
And the first season was fucking boss. I would take a bit of that right now
Post by: Escla on June 01, 2018, 12:52:15 AM
Is it possible for enough fans to let the club know that Seamus should lead us on the pitch in this new era?
I’d rather the manager and DOF made that decision based on what they see day in day out.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on June 01, 2018, 12:55:56 AM
Is it possible for enough fans to let the club know that Seamus should lead us on the pitch in this new era?
Should we just get rid of silva and we’ll manage by fan poll?
Post by: Cozzie on June 01, 2018, 01:09:12 AM
I'm right behind him. Sexy football SHOULD be back.
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on June 01, 2018, 01:14:17 AM
Should we just get rid of silva and we’ll manage by fan poll?The "net" 15 could be better than the "1"
Post by: dunkster on June 01, 2018, 01:18:13 AM
Post by: Macca77 on June 01, 2018, 01:23:04 AM
Post by: blue slug on June 01, 2018, 01:24:24 AM
Lampard getting more air time on sky sports news as expected
Why’s that mate
Post by: gizzblue on June 01, 2018, 01:24:54 AM
Will be a full blown stonk on if we can actually spend more time going the other way on the pitch from Sam had us .
Post by: blue slug on June 01, 2018, 01:26:09 AM
Got my semi on ...just thinking about attacking footy from us ....under this panache fucker .
Will be a full blown stonk on if we can actually spend more time going the other way on the pitch from Sam had us .
Just playing attacking and high paced football will be nice even if we do get beat
Post by: sixymack on June 01, 2018, 01:26:45 AM
Older article, posted before, still worth a read though.
Post by: brap2 on June 01, 2018, 01:34:29 AM
I can be as bad as anyone on here when it comes to knee jerk reactions, but if we get off to bad start, we need to help pull them up not start lambasting them st the first opportunity.
We’ve seen what a toxic Goodison can do to a side, it’s literally sapping for them. We’ve also seen what an absolutely frothing at the mouth, shaking the girders, calling out the opposition players for straighteners any time they look the wrong way at an Everton player Goodison can do to a side as well. A player with an out-for-blood Goodison behind him grows a foot in height and another in length.
Clean slate from me now. Back this lot and they’ll pay us back, I know they will. Up the fucking toffees.
Post by: gizzblue on June 01, 2018, 01:35:27 AM
Just playing attacking and high paced football will be nice even if we do get beat
Yeah exciting at least :laugh:
Post by: blue slug on June 01, 2018, 01:36:35 AM
Yeah exciting at least :laugh:
To have several shots on goal in a game will be groundbreaking lol
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on June 01, 2018, 01:39:37 AM
Got my semi on ...just thinking about attacking footy from us ....under this panache fucker .Two and a half managers not just Sam, some crap players to off hire before this squad will improve, hope it starts now though.
Will be a full blown stonk on if we can actually spend more time going the other way on the pitch from Sam had us .
Post by: boothill on June 01, 2018, 01:40:25 AM
Post by: blue slug on June 01, 2018, 01:41:03 AM
Two and a half managers not just Sam, some crap players to off hire before this squad will improve, hope it starts now though.
There is so much deadwood do get rid of I think it’ll take a few windows
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on June 01, 2018, 01:45:02 AM
There is so much deadwood do get rid of I think it’ll take a few windowsAn awful lot, making the room for what we need to improve on will be as big a job as anything else, not easy or cheap.
Post by: blue slug on June 01, 2018, 01:47:38 AM
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on June 01, 2018, 01:51:21 AM
I’d rather us have a smaller squad with quality 11 than all these average playersThey are in the way, but unfortunately very expensive to get rid of, we could do with a good hit man.
Post by: Audrey Horne on June 01, 2018, 01:58:43 AM
vamos la blues
you been reading my sig?
Post by: Ross on June 01, 2018, 01:59:29 AM
This man needs to be captain. Love the fella.
https://twitter.com/eirSport/status/1002216037495001089
Yeah it’s his time now especially with all the changes going on.
Post by: boothill on June 01, 2018, 02:07:42 AM
you been reading my sig?Whats that liz ?
Post by: Confucius on June 01, 2018, 02:09:30 AM
M&M's a re always a good thing. Think the toffee girls can start throwing those to the crowd?
He looks younger and fitter than Jags to be fair.
Post by: Makis on June 01, 2018, 02:13:55 AM
Martinez was also connected to the fans, not to be a complete fucking downer though.Difference was Martinez was all style, he himself said the way the team plays is more important than results. Silva said in his very first interview that style is important but in the end you are judged by the results (or words to that effect). So he seems far more pragmatic.
Post by: blue slug on June 01, 2018, 02:17:31 AM
Post by: D15TIN on June 01, 2018, 02:35:10 AM
Post by: D15TIN on June 01, 2018, 02:36:05 AM
Martinez was also connected to the fans, not to be a complete fucking downer though.Martinez didn't work on set pieces or pressing the opposition etc, very slow build up play etc. He was crap
Post by: Shogun on June 01, 2018, 02:38:40 AM
That's a really positive thing for Holgate in particular and possible Robinson if he impresses pre-season. DCL could have a part of play but not as a starter and Davies should become a much better footballer on the ball.
I don't think Dowell particularly fits anywhere though.
Post by: blue slug on June 01, 2018, 02:44:34 AM
Really pleased to hear him talking about age not being a factor and I've heard this about him from former players too.
That's a really positive thing for Holgate in particular and possible Robinson if he impresses pre-season. DCL could have a part of play but not as a starter and Davies should become a much better footballer on the ball.
I don't think Dowell particularly fits anywhere though.
I’m liking what he’s saying he’s highly regarded by his past players and is meticulous with his planning for tactics and wants his players fit and working hard without the ball. I really am hopeful for the future but we all need to give him a long time in my opinion as a lot of the players he’s inheriting are not what he’d want to implement his philosophy
Post by: Escla on June 01, 2018, 02:45:36 AM
Martinez didn't work on set pieces or pressing the opposition etc, very slow build up play etc. He was crap
Martinez biggest weakness was he couldn’t close a game out, we were forever most vulnerable in the last 15 minutes.
Post by: GLewis on June 01, 2018, 02:49:33 AM
Really pleased to hear him talking about age not being a factor and I've heard this about him from former players too.
That's a really positive thing for Holgate in particular and possible Robinson if he impresses pre-season. DCL could have a part of play but not as a starter and Davies should become a much better footballer on the ball.
I don't think Dowell particularly fits anywhere though.
Given how Dowell’s season tailed off and seemingly got some stick, I just can’t see how he shouldn’t be loaned out again.
We don’t particularly like players who look lackadaisical as it is, and that would only be worse if a player only appears every now and again as they wouldn’t ever get up to speed.
Post by: Bluedylan on June 01, 2018, 02:52:36 AM
Really pleased to hear him talking about age not being a factor and I've heard this about him from former players too.
That's a really positive thing for Holgate in particular and possible Robinson if he impresses pre-season. DCL could have a part of play but not as a starter and Davies should become a much better footballer on the ball.
I don't think Dowell particularly fits anywhere though.
If we were to play a 4-2-3-1, as he has elsewhere at times, couldn't Dowell be the understudy to Gylfi in the AM role, playing some cup games and coming off the bench sometimes?
Post by: Tinga on June 01, 2018, 03:08:42 AM
If we were to play a 4-2-3-1, as he has elsewhere at times, couldn't Dowell be the understudy to Gylfi in the AM role, playing some cup games and coming off the bench sometimes?
What personality does Siggy have? If he is resolute we are quids in to be honest.
Post by: toffee_scot on June 01, 2018, 03:46:31 AM
Sounds like a lot of work and planning has been going on behind the scenes, let's just hope we have a decent transfer window and form a team that gels much better than last season's.
Post by: blue slug on June 01, 2018, 03:49:15 AM
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on June 01, 2018, 03:59:59 AM
The Brands interview was interesting, it must have been filmed the same time the DoF was unveiled.
Sounds like a lot of work and planning has been going on behind the scenes, let's just hope we have a decent transfer window and form a team that gels much better than last season's.
I was thinking that, it's the clearly the same day.
Nice to know it's all been signed and sealed for a few weeks.
Post by: Paddockoldie on June 01, 2018, 04:44:30 AM
Martinez biggest weakness was he couldn’t close a game out, we were forever most vulnerable in the last 15 minutes.
He would never admit he was wrong either.. Drove me up the fuckin wall he did.. Fine margins, intensity, phenomenonal... But never I got it wrong.
Post by: Ramjam on June 01, 2018, 04:46:35 AM
He would never admit he was wrong either.. Drove me up the fuckin wall he did.. Fine margins, intensity, phenomenonal... But never I got it wrong.He liked everybody and would never say anything off the cuff or have a random spat at anyone. Nice guys finish last.
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 01, 2018, 04:46:53 AM
Martinez biggest weakness was he couldn't close a game out, we were forever most vulnerable in the last 15 minutes.He had us in so many good positions but then he threw them away, the biggest nearly manager of all time
Post by: blargins on June 01, 2018, 04:58:16 AM
Given how Dowell’s season tailed off and seemingly got some stick, I just can’t see how he shouldn’t be loaned out again.
We don’t particularly like players who look lackadaisical as it is, and that would only be worse if a player only appears every now and again as they wouldn’t ever get up to speed.
Dowell was moved to the wing apparently. Even his manager said it was the most likely reason it affected his game. Who knows how he would have been if he'd carried on centrally.
He liked everybody and would never say anything off the cuff or have a random spat at anyone. Nice guys finish last.
So to complete splogniff's like Allardyce.
Post by: Gash on June 01, 2018, 05:03:38 AM
He liked everybody and would never say anything off the cuff or have a random spat at anyone. Nice guys finish last.
Baines would probably disagree with that.
I don't think he was a nice guy, I reckon he'll be the type that on the outside comes across as a decent sort but behind the scenes was a bit of a stubborn cunt who wouldn't listen to anyone's suggestions or feedback and would actually take it as criticism if they did. It's not like there was a line of players coming out and supporting him and saying they'd miss him when he's gone, in fact if rumours were true it was the opposite and he'd lost most of the players.
Post by: howard1334 on June 01, 2018, 05:11:18 AM
Am a little concerned about how well he will work with a DOF, as apparently some of his dissatisfaction at Watford was the result of his limited influence over transfers.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2018/may/31/everton-marco-silva-manager-third-premier-league-club
Post by: Thornton_19 on June 01, 2018, 05:23:59 AM
Happy with this. Chance he will be gone within a year or two, as the below Guardian article makes clear, but hopeful that Everton will be fun to watch again in the meantime.He has worked as a director of football, so he is not alien to the concept of it. Im sure him and Brands have been talking since December.
Am a little concerned about how well he will work with a DOF, as apparently some of his dissatisfaction at Watford was the result of his limited influence over transfers.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2018/may/31/everton-marco-silva-manager-third-premier-league-club
Post by: Ramjam on June 01, 2018, 05:48:44 AM
Baines would probably disagree with that.I get your points there mate but what I was referring to was more in line with his press conferences where he told anyone who would listen how good everyone was and how phenomenal such a player is as well as talking the opposition up with the upmost respect to them, and yes we should respect the top six teams but we shouldn’t fear them, after all we are still a bigger club than most teams in the prem.
I don't think he was a nice guy, I reckon he'll be the type that on the outside comes across as a decent sort but behind the scenes was a bit of a stubborn cunt who wouldn't listen to anyone's suggestions or feedback and would actually take it as criticism if they did. It's not like there was a line of players coming out and supporting him and saying they'd miss him when he's gone, in fact if rumours were true it was the opposite and he'd lost most of the players.
Post by: pjk on June 01, 2018, 06:43:42 AM
http://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11671/11374641/marco-silva-to-everton-what-makes-him-such-a-highly-rated-manager?__twitter_impression=true
Post by: Ramjam on June 01, 2018, 07:28:43 AM
Post by: blueski on June 01, 2018, 07:52:29 AM
The other sense is that you felt like both Koeman and Allardyce could be arsed whether or not they took the Everton job; Koeman didn't seem to want it initially and same with Allardyce. Silva wants this.
Post by: Ramjam on June 01, 2018, 08:03:36 AM
Post by: Mac934 on June 01, 2018, 10:35:41 AM
I’d rather us have a smaller squad with quality 11 than all these average playersJust like them across the park. Hasn't done them any harm really.
Post by: toffee_scot on June 01, 2018, 01:15:55 PM
Am a little concerned about how well he will work with a DOF, as apparently some of his dissatisfaction at Watford was the result of his limited influence over transfers.
I think that has more to do with Watford and the Pozzo structure, managers there have very limited influence and they end up changing their manager at least once a season anyway.
Silva should have more influence at Everton but he should also be able to work better with Brands - assuming the communication between the two has been solid in the last few weeks.
Post by: Hawkandro on June 01, 2018, 02:32:49 PM
Happy with this. Chance he will be gone within a year or two, as the below Guardian article makes clear, but hopeful that Everton will be fun to watch again in the meantime.
Am a little concerned about how well he will work with a DOF, as apparently some of his dissatisfaction at Watford was the result of his limited influence over transfers.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2018/may/31/everton-marco-silva-manager-third-premier-league-club
Do Watford have a DOF? I thought it was just their owner deciding to bring players in from one of his other clubs all the time?
Post by: arteta4spain on June 01, 2018, 03:03:41 PM
Post by: Bluenose 91 on June 01, 2018, 06:44:23 PM
They won 3-0 and you'd have thought they were the home side.
I know Newcastle are shit like but I can't remember the last time we went away anywhere and played like that.
That's the sort of thing I'm really hoping he replicates here.
Post by: stirlingblue on June 01, 2018, 06:55:11 PM
Post by: Ramjam on June 01, 2018, 06:57:29 PM
Have we signed anyone yet?Marco Silva
Post by: Bluedylan on June 01, 2018, 06:58:44 PM
Post by: blargins on June 01, 2018, 07:32:02 PM
Can we have Silva on the opening app page now? Sick of seeing that cheesy grin from Koeman.
I'd hang off on changing that just yet. Let's see if he's still here at the end of the season.
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 01, 2018, 08:14:12 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2018/jun/01/marco-silva-everton-manager-in-trayGood that
Post by: Toddacelli on June 01, 2018, 08:29:09 PM
Last season's highlights for me were all off the pitch, pre-season - that was when i was excited and proud to be an Evertonian.
How fucking bad is that? I am confident that I will have reasons to cheer once the season has started this year as well.
I work in a place that employs people from all over the world to deliver service to customers all over the world and last season it felt like every PL team and European team that beat us - someone would come and rub my nose in it. Well fuck that - stick it up 'em Marco.
We've been too long without any Silva at this club.
Post by: sam of the south on June 01, 2018, 10:34:59 PM
I'd hang off on changing that just yet. Let's see if he's still here at the end of the season.
So you’d just rather keep Koeman on there :eh:
Post by: blargins on June 01, 2018, 10:40:55 PM
So you’d just rather keep Koeman on there :eh:
Apparently it costs money to change the image. Ask Si.
Better off changing it to something that will never change like the logo or something.
Post by: sam of the south on June 01, 2018, 10:43:52 PM
Apparently it costs money to change the image. Ask Si.
Better off changing it to something that will never change like the logo or something.
Ah right, fair enough.
Post by: howard1334 on June 02, 2018, 12:25:39 AM
Do Watford have a DOF? I thought it was just their owner deciding to bring players in from one of his other clubs all the time?
My point was not that he did not like working under a DOF at Watford but that he was unhappy with the level of control he had over transfers, and similarly, the presence of a DOF at Everton will also limit his control over transfers at Everton. But you are right; the situations at Watford and Everton are different. Hopefully this will be a non-issue.
Post by: sam of the south on June 02, 2018, 12:48:44 AM
Post by: toffee_scot on June 02, 2018, 04:03:45 AM
Apparently it costs money to change the image. Ask Si.
Better off changing it to something that will never change like the logo or something.
Or Duncan Ferguson, well he has survived 4 managerial changes.
Post by: blargins on June 02, 2018, 08:31:03 AM
Half way down it says Simeon’s people contacted us. Why didn’t we go further? Simeon or Allardyce? Wtf?
Post by: Alanvideo on June 02, 2018, 02:18:28 PM
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/06/01/marco-silva-taking-everton-may-increase-chances-watford-getting/
Post by: Mac934 on June 02, 2018, 02:29:52 PM
Post by: Ramjam on June 02, 2018, 02:34:25 PM
This just won't go away..............I think Duncan has been kept on to run the arbitration discussions 🤜
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/06/01/marco-silva-taking-everton-may-increase-chances-watford-getting/
Post by: School of Science on June 02, 2018, 02:41:34 PM
This just won't go away..............
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/06/01/marco-silva-taking-everton-may-increase-chances-watford-getting/
Are Watford short of money or something ? Maybe we should have a whipround for the bums.
Post by: Jamokachi on June 02, 2018, 02:57:20 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-atletico-madrid-model-marco-14733260.amp
Half way down it says Simeon’s people contacted us. Why didn’t we go further? Simeon or Allardyce? Wtf?
There's a lot more to it than you're making out, as if we weren't interested.
His people got in touch to express an interest in our "project". But that by no means indicates either party were in a position to move on a deal in October/November. In fact from what I heard Simeone's people had said they wold be interested in discussing the situation at the end of the season. Since then Simeone has signed a new deal at Atletico, so was it merely a double bluff from his representatives to move along those negotiations? Also, we were clearly in talks with Brands (his quotes suggest 2 years of talks), so you have to take into account his opinion and decision, perhaps he doesn't see Simeone as suiting our project?
In short, there are numerous reasons as to why this didn't happen, so there's really no need for the "wtf" disbelief response and the comment on Allardyce over him, as that's quite clearly far too simplistic a statement.
Post by: Macca77 on June 02, 2018, 02:57:40 PM
Post by: Jamokachi on June 02, 2018, 02:59:47 PM
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on June 02, 2018, 03:04:55 PM
Makes me laugh that, they sacked him, why the fuck should they get any compo
Cos results were shit. They want 2 bites at the cherry. Turned an offer down. Then he becomes worth less to them months later and they then want the offer. It’s a whole load of nonsense
Post by: sam of the south on June 02, 2018, 03:08:59 PM
Cos results were shit. They want 2 bites at the cherry. Turned an offer down. Then he becomes worth less to them months later and they then want the offer. It’s a whole load of nonsense
Yes, I agree.
It’s verging on Kopshite behaviour.
Post by: Gash on June 02, 2018, 03:16:10 PM
Post by: Ramjam on June 02, 2018, 03:19:55 PM
We were prepared to pay 12m compo, I'm sure we'll be fine whatever we need to fork out.I think so as well however they have been a bit Johnny come lately with their request for compo, they should have taken up the claim at the time of the approach. Since then we moved on and appointed Sam they accepted that and moved to dismiss silva of their own accord and now that we have Sacked Sam and moved to appoint a manager who was sacked from his previous appointment (Silva) it just seems a wee bit rich that they have decided to come for the compo now. Fuck them.
Post by: Bluedylan on June 02, 2018, 03:20:00 PM
The club's done the right thing, appointing him and getting on with things. Do Watford have the right to some compo? Maybe. Who gives a fuck. It's a billionaire arguing with multi-millionaires over a few quid.
Post by: Paddockoldie on June 02, 2018, 03:25:43 PM
Post by: Bluedylan on June 02, 2018, 03:33:28 PM
In the words of Boris Johnson.. Go whistle!! Tell them to fuck off. What can they actually do when they sacked the fella?
Well presumably they can say that we made an illegal approach to their manager, which altered his performance and destabilised their season, costing them money and a higher finishing place. Seems quite straight forward.
Post by: Ramjam on June 02, 2018, 03:36:43 PM
Well presumably they can say that we made an illegal approach to their manager, which altered his performance and destabilised their season, costing them money and a higher finishing place. Seems quite straight forward.Why didn’t they run with it at the time, why now?
Post by: Alanvideo on June 02, 2018, 03:41:21 PM
Why didn’t they run with it at the time, why now?.................been going on for months not just now ,Watford complained to the PL in about March ,talks have been held at least two occasions.
Post by: Ramjam on June 02, 2018, 03:43:18 PM
.................been going on for months not just now ,Watford complained to the PL in about March ,talks have been held at least two occasions.Ok I wasn’t aware of that, compo should be minimal anyway
Post by: sam of the south on June 02, 2018, 04:00:52 PM
Post by: Escla on June 02, 2018, 04:26:03 PM
Well presumably they can say that we made an illegal approach to their manager, which altered his performance and destabilised their season, costing them money and a higher finishing place. Seems quite straight forward.
Not sure of the sequence of events actually but did not Man UTd. De-stabilise us by telling Moyes he had the job, don’t sign a new contract and keep stumm ? Think the Watford thing should go to a court of Law,
would like to see how they could possibly prove that we cost them money by de stabilising them, it’s a simple case of an illegal tap up, it’s happened loads of times , our neighbours are world class at it, there are precedents for the penalty and it is nowhere near in the millions.
Post by: toffee_scot on June 02, 2018, 04:38:07 PM
Post by: Paddockoldie on June 02, 2018, 05:01:41 PM
Well presumably they can say that we made an illegal approach to their manager, which altered his performance and destabilised their season, costing them money and a higher finishing place. Seems quite straight forward.
We were rebuffed so the drop in performance is circumstantial at best. If Spurs start being poor is that because RM came knocking? Thinking and proving in law are two different beasts. I'd still tell them to swivel.
Post by: Goaljira on June 02, 2018, 05:20:19 PM
On Everton's YouTube channel it looks like there will be a press conference featuring Brands and Silva on Monday, be interesting to hear more from them
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Post by: Bluedylan on June 02, 2018, 05:40:46 PM
We were rebuffed so the drop in performance is circumstantial at best. If Spurs start being poor is that because RM came knocking? Thinking and proving in law are two different beasts. I'd still tell them to swivel.
Genuinely no idea why people are bothered about this.
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on June 02, 2018, 05:51:18 PM
You'd hope Watford won't want to drag it out as much as Everton don't.
You'd imagine part of his contract termination at Watford had some kind of compensation clause owed to Watford should another club take him on in the next X amount of years, in return for a favourable severance package for Silva.
We paid it to Palace for Sam (although he quit, not got sacked) so I reckon we'll be ok to pay it for Silva.
Post by: blargins on June 02, 2018, 06:22:48 PM
There's a lot more to it than you're making out, as if we weren't interested.
His people got in touch to express an interest in our "project". But that by no means indicates either party were in a position to move on a deal in October/November. In fact from what I heard Simeone's people had said they wold be interested in discussing the situation at the end of the season. Since then Simeone has signed a new deal at Atletico, so was it merely a double bluff from his representatives to move along those negotiations? Also, we were clearly in talks with Brands (his quotes suggest 2 years of talks), so you have to take into account his opinion and decision, perhaps he doesn't see Simeone as suiting our project?
In short, there are numerous reasons as to why this didn't happen, so there's really no need for the "wtf" disbelief response and the comment on Allardyce over him, as that's quite clearly far too simplistic a statement.
That story is the first I've heard of anyone from his camp expressing any interest in joining us, so the rest of what you wrote I have no idea about and the article didn't mention it. I know we've had fanciful ideas of him joining us, but that's all I thought they were.
Post by: Redartin on June 02, 2018, 06:46:25 PM
Makes me laugh that, they sacked him, why the fuck should they get any compo
Here is how Watford fans view it. Try from page 23 onwards.
http://wfcforums.com/index.php?threads/marco-silva-tapping-up-complaint.54573/page-24
If you are from Liverpool you may want to swerve this, some of the comments aren't very favourable.
Post by: Jamokachi on June 02, 2018, 07:07:11 PM
That story is the first I've heard of anyone from his camp expressing any interest in joining us, so the rest of what you wrote I have no idea about and the article didn't mention it. I know we've had fanciful ideas of him joining us, but that's all I thought they were.
Nah, it was pretty widely reported on.
Post by: blargins on June 02, 2018, 07:11:48 PM
Nah, it was pretty widely reported on.
And that's fine, I just don't recall it.
Post by: Bluedylan on June 02, 2018, 08:47:16 PM
Post by: Everton Mint on June 04, 2018, 12:23:53 AM
Hearing a lot of good things about him but something about his history tells me he's not going to be the long-term solution.
My money is definitely on 1-2 years max and then we'll be back to square one again. I just hope I'm totally wrong.
Post by: Bluedylan on June 04, 2018, 12:25:57 AM
I'll state here and now that I dont think Silva is going to be the man for us and the huge rebuilding job required.
Hearing a lot of good things about him but something about his history tells me he's not going to be the long-term solution.
My money is definitely on 1-2 years max and then we'll be back to square one again. I just hope I'm totally wrong.
You don't really get long term solutions anymore. They almost all do 2/3 years, if they get that far. Brands is the long term solutions guy.
Post by: Gash on June 04, 2018, 01:42:17 AM
Post by: Bally on June 04, 2018, 05:13:48 AM
Or Duncan Ferguson, well he has survived 4 managerial changes.No
Post by: Macca77 on June 04, 2018, 02:20:40 PM
He's the bitterest blue you will ever meet by the way, proper old school bitter, his hatred for everything red is stronger than ever, he's supported Everton for over 65 years, but has fell completely out of love with them, proper fed up with all things Everton at the moment, never thought I'd hear him say that.
Post by: Toffee1 on June 04, 2018, 02:39:33 PM
Post by: dangermouse on June 04, 2018, 03:45:53 PM
"He's a bit like Hitler really. The Germans didn't like him either...... but they came around in the end"
Post by: Mayor Farnum on June 04, 2018, 04:53:31 PM
I heard a great comment about Silva this morning....
"He's a bit like Hitler really. The Germans didn't like him either...... but they came around in the end"
Looking forward to the next five years in that case. However, things may turn a little sour after that.
Post by: Escla on June 04, 2018, 05:00:51 PM
Looking forward to the next five years in that case. However, things may turn a little sour after that.
Would be ironic if we got into Europe and first away tie was in Poland !
Post by: Ramjam on June 04, 2018, 05:04:04 PM
I heard a great comment about Silva this morning....If I was one of the players I’d be a bit worried when he said I’ve booked you all into a training camp in Europe
"He's a bit like Hitler really. The Germans didn't like him either...... but they came around in the end"
Post by: Lxxx on June 04, 2018, 05:15:40 PM
I'll state here and now that I dont think Silva is going to be the man for us and the huge rebuilding job required.
Hearing a lot of good things about him but something about his history tells me he's not going to be the long-term solution.
My money is definitely on 1-2 years max and then we'll be back to square one again. I just hope I'm totally wrong.
He's 40 years old. Going over his long career as a manager so far you've managed to convince yourself he's not the man for the job. Unbelievable.
Post by: Ross on June 04, 2018, 05:47:36 PM
He's 40 years old. Going over his long career as a manager so far you've managed to convince yourself he's not the man for the job. Unbelievable.
Pretty sure he’s only looking at the pattern of his career to date.
He’s been a manager for 7 years and we’re his 6th club, he’s had a new club every season for the past 5.
It’s not the sort of record that indicates a long term stay is it?
Post by: Cereal Killer on June 04, 2018, 05:55:09 PM
Post by: Lxxx on June 04, 2018, 06:10:23 PM
Pretty sure he’s only looking at the pattern of his career to date.
He’s been a manager for 7 years and we’re his 6th club, he’s had a new club every season for the past 5.
It’s not the sort of record that indicates a long term stay is it?
As ever the devil is in the detail.
There's only been one job that he's left under any sign of a cloud, which was Olympiakos citing 'personal reasons.' The rest all have valid explanations attached to them which stand up to scrutiny.
Post by: Ross on June 04, 2018, 06:15:06 PM
As ever the devil is in the detail.
There's only been one job that he's left under any sign of a cloud, which was Olympiakos citing 'personal reasons.' The rest all have valid explanations attached to them which stand up to scrutiny.
Surely Watford?
And I’m pretty sure he was sacked at Sporting for falling out with the board.
Whichever way you look at it he’s not a fella to stick around so saying he’s unlikely to be here past 2 years is a fair estimate.
Post by: blargins on June 04, 2018, 06:20:19 PM
Moyes used to do both jobs. Now Brands does a big part and Silva another part.
Apparently, between the two of them, their wages are not as much as we were paying the fat one last season. Brands on 2 mill a year, Silva on 3 mill.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on June 04, 2018, 06:27:58 PM
Post by: TheRam on June 04, 2018, 06:29:46 PM
Surely Watford?
And I’m pretty sure he was sacked at Sporting for falling out with the board.
Whichever way you look at it he’s not a fella to stick around so saying he’s unlikely to be here past 2 years is a fair estimate.
Sporting sacked him because they wanted to hire Jorge Jesus and needed an excuse to get rid.
They decided to use the 'breaking club policy' related to a game back in December where he didnt wear the club suit
Post by: blargins on June 04, 2018, 08:51:17 PM
Sporting sacked him because they wanted to hire Jorge Jesus and needed an excuse to get rid.
They decided to use the 'breaking club policy' related to a game back in December where he didnt wear the club suit
Damn. We should have used the 'breaking club policy' to sack Sam when he spilt gravy on his tie.
Post by: blue slug on June 04, 2018, 08:56:33 PM
Damn. We should have used the 'breaking club policy' to sack Sam when he spilt gravy on his tie.
proper made me chuckle did that
Post by: Mayor Farnum on June 05, 2018, 12:38:15 AM
No teams have longevity really though. 4 prem teams currently have manager whose been there over 3 years
Any of those four teams successful ones by any chance?
Post by: Bluedylan on June 05, 2018, 01:08:13 AM
Post by: Cereal Killer on June 05, 2018, 04:00:39 AM
Any of those four teams successful ones by any chance?
Well 3 of them included promotion from the Championship, so possibly? Only one manager over 3 years in charge of a team whilst in the prem (Poch) and he hasn't actually won anything
Post by: Macca77 on June 08, 2018, 03:03:13 AM
https://twitter.com/Becky__B2/status/1004807260625866752
Post by: TheTone on June 08, 2018, 04:33:01 AM
Post by: Macca77 on June 08, 2018, 07:11:21 PM
https://twitter.com/jammyp2/status/1005050548717047808
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on June 08, 2018, 07:20:33 PM
https://twitter.com/jammyp2/status/1005031801369300992
https://twitter.com/jammyp2/status/1005050548717047808
I have serious doubts that top end professionals we pay in millions share club secrets with random strangers and then pose for pics to legitimise their claims. If he wants a pic he’s gonna share it and if he’s sharing it he’s sharing the secret that apparently came with it. Silva would have to be a genuine retard for this story to be true
Post by: Macca77 on June 08, 2018, 07:24:13 PM
I have serious doubts that top end professionals we pay in millions share club secrets with random strangers and then pose for pics to legitimise their claims. If he wants a pic he’s gonna share it and if he’s sharing it he’s sharing the secret that apparently came with it. Silva would have to be a genuine retard for this story to be true
Look at his smile though, its the smile of a man we can trust
Post by: TheRam on June 08, 2018, 07:27:26 PM
Post by: Lxxx on June 08, 2018, 07:43:00 PM
Post by: Brownie on June 08, 2018, 08:41:45 PM
It's probably it's probably been written somewhere but has it been quoted how much he is being paid?
Airport worker? Prob about £22k a year
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 08, 2018, 08:51:19 PM
It's probably it's probably been written somewhere but has it been quoted how much he is being paid?Half what koeman was on
Post by: Macca77 on June 08, 2018, 09:08:53 PM
Airport worker? Prob about £22k a year
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Post by: Bluedylan on June 08, 2018, 09:11:16 PM
Post by: blargins on June 08, 2018, 10:08:26 PM
It's know it's probably been written somewhere but has it been quoted how much he is being paid?
We have Brands and Silva for a million less than what fat Sam and Koeman were on. We're paying our management team more sensible wages. Now we must apply it to our playing staff too.
Post by: kramer0 on June 08, 2018, 10:53:58 PM
As an aside, I like the fact that we're getting him at what might be considered a low point in his admittedly young career. It's extra satisfying to see a player or coach who's lost his way realize his potential at your club and hopefully that's how it'll play out for him here.
Post by: Toddacelli on June 08, 2018, 11:13:49 PM
Fair play to Silva for accepting half of what our last two managers were on. I know his reputation has taken a hit recently but it would have been easy for him to point at those dinosaurs with there terrible ideas about how to play football and ask for parity (or something close).
As an aside, I like the fact that we're getting him at what might be considered a low point in his admittedly young career. It's extra satisfying to see a player or coach who's lost his way realize his potential at your club and hopefully that's how it'll play out for him here.
Agreed. And I'm hopeful because I believe he will have better tools to do his job with at Everton.
Read that whichever way you like :)
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on June 08, 2018, 11:37:35 PM
Agreed. And I'm hopeful because I believe he will have better tools to do his job with at Everton.Your'e spot on, we have a skip full of tools...
Read that whichever way you like :)
Post by: Bluedylan on June 08, 2018, 11:44:55 PM
Feel free to quote this back to me if he’s fired at Christmas x
Post by: Brownie on June 08, 2018, 11:58:59 PM
I’m fully sticking my neck out. I think Silva will be our best manager since Kendall.
Feel free to quote this back to me if he’s fired at Christmas x
As long as it's not Kendall Mark 3
Post by: TheRam on June 08, 2018, 11:59:11 PM
I’m fully sticking my neck out. I think Silva will be our best manager since Kendall.
Feel free to quote this back to me if he’s fired at Christmas x
Had a few frosty ones in the sun?
Post by: Bluedylan on June 09, 2018, 12:36:34 AM
Had a few frosty ones in the sun?
Not yet today. Just think he's gonna be a bit special for us.
Post by: Shogun on June 09, 2018, 12:39:32 AM
Post by: blue slug on June 09, 2018, 12:42:57 AM
I’m fully sticking my neck out. I think Silva will be our best manager since Kendall.
Feel free to quote this back to me if he’s fired at Christmas x
Woah steady on there matey
Post by: blargins on June 09, 2018, 12:54:02 AM
Post by: Brownie on June 09, 2018, 12:56:12 AM
I think he's talking about Kendall Mk 3.
Get your own jokes. You can't act all American and just take what you want
Post by: blargins on June 09, 2018, 12:57:37 AM
Get your own jokes. You can't act all American and just take what you want
Oh bollocks. Missed that.
Can I edit to say Mk 2 then? Mk2 was bad, but not quite as bad as Mk 3.
Post by: Confucius on June 09, 2018, 02:49:40 AM
He's far too good looking for us like
Speak for yourself mate. Cassius and stealth are at least on his level.
Post by: Morta75 on June 09, 2018, 02:31:04 PM
I’m fully sticking my neck out. I think Silva will be our best manager since Kendall.
Feel free to quote this back to me if he’s fired at Christmas x
Let's hope you are right :cheers:
Post by: Bluedylan on June 10, 2018, 09:35:35 AM
http://www.evertonfc.com/evertontv/archive/2018/06/05/everton-unseen-marco-silvas-first-day
Post by: eugene on June 10, 2018, 01:44:51 PM
Apparently it costs money to change the image. Ask Si.How about our stadium then?
Better off changing it to something that will never change like the logo or something.
Post by: Silas on June 10, 2018, 01:58:03 PM
Post by: dunkster on June 10, 2018, 08:25:35 PM
Unless something drastically goes wrong he needs 12 months just to implement his style.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on June 10, 2018, 08:37:51 PM
A slow, bad start and the masses will soon point to his Hull and Watford stint.
Unless something drastically goes wrong he needs 12 months just to implement his style.
I don’t really think that’s true. Think he’s in a very strong position with the fans. We all accept the squad is a mess. If it’s still a mess and the new signings look poor brands will take some of the blame
I think everyone will happily give him a year assuming it’s not truly dreadful.
Post by: School of Science on June 10, 2018, 08:38:39 PM
A slow, bad start and the masses will soon point to his Hull and Watford stint.
Unless something drastically goes wrong he needs 12 months just to implement his style.
Agree with what you say except for the time element, I'd say two full years, the team is in a hell of a mess.
Post by: gizzblue on June 10, 2018, 09:00:55 PM
Post by: Bluedylan on June 10, 2018, 11:21:31 PM
Post by: dunkster on June 11, 2018, 05:56:13 AM
Post by: Toddacelli on June 11, 2018, 01:58:45 PM
Would literally have rather watched any other team in the league than us last season. Heartbreaking stuff at times.
Post by: Lxxx on June 11, 2018, 04:44:42 PM
Post by: Escla on June 11, 2018, 04:59:15 PM
We really could do with getting a decent set of fixtures first up. I know there were a number of things which caused last season to go into meltdown but those opening set of games set us off on a slide which made everything snowball from there.
Is the fixture list determined by a computer with a given set of parameters, I.e. Everton & Liverpool not playing at home same day etc. ?
Post by: Alanvideo on June 11, 2018, 05:01:08 PM
We really could do with getting a decent set of fixtures first up. I know there were a number of things which caused last season to go into meltdown but those opening set of games set us off on a slide which made everything snowball from there...........................don't see how things could snowball when there was a meltdown lolol
Post by: Toddacelli on June 11, 2018, 05:33:43 PM
..........................don't see how things could snowball when there was a meltdown lolol
Haha! He's got you there @Lxxx (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4362) !
(https://i.imgur.com/C5otJTn.jpg)
Post by: Bluedylan on June 12, 2018, 01:09:13 AM
Post by: Macca77 on June 12, 2018, 01:14:10 AM
Nice touch to text the young players at the tournament with a positive message. First impressions matter a lot, when trying to get people on side. Can't imagine big Ronald popping good luck texts out, for example. Will matter a lot to a young lad that.
Especially if he put a few cheeky XX after each text
Post by: blue slug on June 12, 2018, 01:15:20 AM
Nice touch to text the young players at the tournament with a positive message. First impressions matter a lot, when trying to get people on side. Can't imagine big Ronald popping good luck texts out, for example. Will matter a lot to a young lad that.
Yeah definitely agree and you can’t imagine Sam doing anything like that he’d be to busy knocking back pints of wine and slamming a few ginsters down his gob
Post by: TheRam on June 12, 2018, 01:27:24 AM
Nice touch to text the young players at the tournament with a positive message. First impressions matter a lot, when trying to get people on side. Can't imagine big Ronald popping good luck texts out, for example. Will matter a lot to a young lad that.
Word is he’s already done his research on the youngsters and rates them.
Dowell inparticular has been singled out as somebody he wants to have a good look at.
Connolly as well could have a role.
Post by: kramer0 on June 12, 2018, 02:51:10 AM
Word is he’s already done his research on the youngsters and rates them.
Dowell inparticular has been singled out as somebody he wants to have a good look at.
Connolly as well could have a role.
Connolly could become an excellent squad player with the right management.
Plays anywhere across the backline*, is strong in the air, and looks like a genuine goal threat from set pieces.
* He played defensive midfield for Mick McCarthy's Ipswich last season but I'm not sure how much potential he has in that role because Mick McCarthy is exactly the sort of guy who would play a natural defender in midfield.
Post by: Bob Sacamano on June 12, 2018, 03:11:40 AM
Post by: brap2 on June 12, 2018, 04:04:47 AM
Word is he’s already done his research on the youngsters and rates them.
Dowell inparticular has been singled out as somebody he wants to have a good look at.
Connolly as well could have a role.
Dowell to be played by Silva in a De Bruyne style deep languid playmaker who can’t sprint role. Has the passing ability to do it. Oh my goodness.
Post by: TheRam on June 12, 2018, 04:08:00 AM
Dowell to be played by Silva in a De Bruyne style deep languid playmaker who can’t sprint role. Has the passing ability to do it. Oh my goodness.
Then has his spirit completely ruined by the lower g lids and retires at the age of 24 to discover himself away from football.
Post by: Silas on June 12, 2018, 04:40:43 AM
Then has his spirit completely ruined by the lower g lids and retires at the age of 24 to discover himself away from football.
Ah doing a David Bentley
Post by: formerKHL on June 14, 2018, 04:45:42 PM
considering watford are after us for compensation for Silva.....they have to pay us 3.5 million as part of the delefeou deal !!!
anyone else cast some light on this...
Post by: Gash on June 14, 2018, 04:57:12 PM
Just heard something really weird/coincidental....
considering watford are after us for compensation for Silva.....they have to pay us 3.5 million as part of the delefeou deal !!!
anyone else cast some light on this...
Can't see why they'd need to pay us anything? We sold him to Barca, I'd have thought if there was any money due it would be from them rather than Watford.
Post by: themilkycoffees on June 14, 2018, 04:57:24 PM
Just heard something really weird/coincidental....
considering watford are after us for compensation for Silva.....they have to pay us 3.5 million as part of the delefeou deal !!!
anyone else cast some light on this...
Might be some truth in that. As we had to sell Deulofeu back to Barcelona as part of their buy back option, we may have been able to insert some clauses like this if they were to sell him on. Could be a way of ending this little issue with Watford if true.
Post by: formerKHL on June 14, 2018, 05:11:26 PM
Post by: Mick 1995 on June 14, 2018, 05:19:32 PM
but that is between us and Barca, not the buying club.
Post by: formerKHL on June 14, 2018, 05:25:30 PM
Post by: Morta75 on June 22, 2018, 07:13:21 PM
Post by: stirlingblue on June 23, 2018, 02:46:16 PM
Let get going now Marco Silva, waiting for some real activity...
You won’t see much happen during a World Cup, patience is the order of the day
Post by: boothill on July 24, 2018, 05:18:00 PM
Post by: stirlingblue on July 24, 2018, 05:45:23 PM
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Absolute cringe that lad
Post by: Jamokachi on July 24, 2018, 06:06:58 PM
Post by: boothill on July 24, 2018, 07:52:05 PM
Horrible racist undertones too.really ? Where ?
Post by: boothill on July 24, 2018, 07:54:29 PM
Absolute cringe that ladThought it quite funny myself, but i guess it takes all sorts eh
Post by: pjk on July 24, 2018, 08:09:01 PM
Post by: boothill on July 24, 2018, 09:36:56 PM
I think it's the onion bhaji's and piss getting a mention, being outside their ground, wot done it. :eh:so onion bhajis dont smell ? Piss doesnt smell ? but the mention of hotdogs is ok then ? Maybe if you try and look deeper and deeper some of our european cousins maybe offended too, ffs
Post by: blargins on July 24, 2018, 09:42:37 PM
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 24, 2018, 09:48:20 PM
Why, of all of the food sources in the universe, why do you reckon they chose onion bhajis speficially?
Then, if you can come up with an answer - one that does not generalise a crowd of people or their demographic (maybe it's become a renown area of south asian cuisine in the 3 months since i was last there, i dont know) - you need to ask why this specific food item and it's origin was chosen specifically for its aroma and has been put on the same level as urine.
If you have plausible answers to them to questions, then fair enough.
But there are no plausible answers, only willful ignorance.
Post by: Bluedylan on July 24, 2018, 09:50:24 PM
ok, i normally couldn't be arsed getting into these types of conversations, but i'll bite.
Why, of all of the food sources in the universe, why do you reckon they chose onion bhajis speficially?
Then, if you can come up with an answer - one that does not generalise a crowd of people or their demographic (maybe it's become a renown area of south asian cuisine in the 3 months since i was last there, i dont know) - you need to ask why this specific food item and it's origin was chosen specifically for its aroma and has been put on the same level as urine.
If you have plausible answers to them to questions, then fair enough.
But there are no plausible answers, only willful ignorance.
Calm down, snowflake.
Post by: TheRam on July 24, 2018, 09:53:04 PM
Never knew you could be racist to food?
You can’t. You can use food to stereotype certain demographics though.
Post by: blargins on July 24, 2018, 09:56:11 PM
You can’t. You can use food to stereotype certain demographics though.
I thought the whole thing was just about slamming kopites and there was a thing about this food being used in this locality. An inside joke if you like.
Post by: gizzblue on July 24, 2018, 10:04:26 PM
While at goodison it was scouse pies and oxo in a cup you could smell.
Post by: themilkycoffees on July 24, 2018, 10:10:01 PM
really ? Where ?
Didn't find it funny myself but it's one of them where you have to be a bit of a racist to detect anything racist in it. I certainly didn't. Piss, onion bhajis and hot dog water. How is that racist in any way shape or form?
Post by: boothill on July 24, 2018, 10:36:40 PM
ok, i normally couldn't be arsed getting into these types of conversations, but i'll bite.i certainly never read it as racist, if i thought that for 1 second id never have posted it. i read it as a jokey, throw away comment of what some people identify as a pungent smelling food, along with hotdogs and piss to piss takingly describe kopites. if it offends then i apologise
Why, of all of the food sources in the universe, why do you reckon they chose onion bhajis speficially?
Then, if you can come up with an answer - one that does not generalise a crowd of people or their demographic (maybe it's become a renown area of south asian cuisine in the 3 months since i was last there, i dont know) - you need to ask why this specific food item and it's origin was chosen specifically for its aroma and has been put on the same level as urine.
If you have plausible answers to them to questions, then fair enough.
But there are no plausible answers, only willful ignorance.
Post by: blargins on July 24, 2018, 10:38:20 PM
i certainly never read it as racist, if i thought that for 1 second id never have posted it. i read it as a jokey, throw away comment of what some people identify as a pungent smelling food, along with hotdogs and piss to piss takingly describe kopites. if it offends then i apologise
Exactly how I took it.
Indian food is lovely, but the smell of some of it is pungent.
Reminds me. I have some left over chicken Korma in the fridge.
Post by: Alanvideo on July 24, 2018, 10:54:46 PM
Post by: 74Blue on July 24, 2018, 11:59:51 PM
I thought the common fayre or smells were pickled herring and meatballs ....I don't know where you're smelling scouse pies at Goodison. They stopped selling them when they switched to Wrights as the pie supplier. Used to love a decent scouse pie as well.
While at goodison it was scouse pies and oxo in a cup you could smell.
Ironically, the shite still sell them at the shithole, even though you'd struggle to find a fucking scouser in there.
Post by: blargins on July 25, 2018, 12:00:26 AM
Post by: 74Blue on July 25, 2018, 12:07:02 AM
Never had Scouse pie. Not even sure what it is.The scouse pies that they used to sell at the match aren't proper scouse. A big pan of proper homemade scouse cannot be replicatec or beaten. Chuck the leftover scouse in a bit of pastry and it's the food of winners.
If you ask anybody in Liverpool, they will always tell you that nothing can beat a pan of homemade scouse and that their ma's scouse is the best in the world.
It's really just a stew made from leftover vegetables and meat from the Sunday roast dinner. It's absolutely fucking awesome when it served with red cabbage or beetroot and a load of fresh crusty bread.
Post by: Bluedylan on July 25, 2018, 12:08:24 AM
The scouse pies that they used to sell at the match aren't proper scouse. A big pan of proper homemade scouse cannot be replicatec or beaten. Chuck the leftover scouse in a bit of pastry and it's the food of winners.
If you ask anybody in Liverpool, they will always tell you that nothing can beat a pan of homemade scouse and that their ma's scouse is the best in the world.
It's really just a stew made from leftover vegetables and meat from the Sunday roast dinner. It's absolutely fucking awesome when it served with red cabbage or beetroot and a load of fresh crusty bread.
Correct
Post by: blargins on July 25, 2018, 12:09:21 AM
The scouse pies that they used to sell at the match aren't proper scouse. A big pan of proper homemade scouse cannot be replicatec or beaten. Chuck the leftover scouse in a bit of pastry and it's the food of winners.
If you ask anybody in Liverpool, they will always tell you that nothing can beat a pan of homemade scouse and that their ma's scouse is the best in the world.
It's really just a stew made from leftover vegetables and meat from the Sunday roast dinner. It's absolutely fucking awesome when it served with red cabbage or beetroot and a load of fresh crusty bread.
Sounds great.
Everybody over here always takes the piss out of British food, but there's a lot of it I really miss. Yorkshire puddings, proper roasties, bubble and squeak.
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 25, 2018, 12:12:38 AM
so onion bhajis dont smell ? Piss doesnt smell ? but the mention of hotdogs is ok then ? Maybe if you try and look deeper and deeper some of our european cousins maybe offended too, ffs
Surely it’s the suggestion that people who eat them are a lower class of person. Like people who piss themselves
Post by: TheRam on July 25, 2018, 12:14:07 AM
Post by: Bluedylan on July 25, 2018, 12:15:11 AM
Post by: brap2 on July 25, 2018, 12:16:14 AM
That and spag Bol, everything else is my ma’s territory.
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 25, 2018, 12:16:54 AM
The Mrs scouse is grim
Post by: 74Blue on July 25, 2018, 12:17:41 AM
My mums meat to potatoe ratio in a pan of scouse is a disgrace tbh.Well if your ma's scouse isn't the best in the world, that must make you a bad wool by default 😁
Post by: Brownie on July 25, 2018, 12:17:50 AM
Sounds great.
Everybody over here always takes the piss out of British food, but there's a lot of it I really miss. Yorkshire puddings, proper roasties, bubble and squeak.
The nation that lives on steak, fried chicken and fries takes the piss out of British food?
Post by: blue slug on July 25, 2018, 12:18:09 AM
Post by: Macca77 on July 25, 2018, 12:18:45 AM
Post by: blue slug on July 25, 2018, 12:19:31 AM
Post by: Bluedylan on July 25, 2018, 12:20:30 AM
My mums Scouse is amazing, she always makes an extra pan full and drops it off at mine, with loads of crusty cobs. Mines ok, when I can be arsed
Has to be with crusty cobs. She won't make it if she hasn't got them.
Post by: gizzblue on July 25, 2018, 12:23:08 AM
Never had Scouse pie. Not even sure what it is.
Basically pastry wrapped indigestion and heartburn ....only hammered for after a few too many scoops.
Post by: blargins on July 25, 2018, 12:24:11 AM
Post by: Alanvideo on July 25, 2018, 12:25:30 AM
Post by: TheRam on July 25, 2018, 12:29:27 AM
Going to try to bring this thread back on topic by wondering if Marco Silva has ever had Scouse pie.
He’ll be getting plenty of scouse pie I imagine.
Sorry everyone.
Post by: Macca77 on July 25, 2018, 12:34:16 AM
Has to be with crusty cobs. She won't make it if she hasn't got them.
Heavily buttered
Post by: Bluedylan on July 25, 2018, 12:35:03 AM
Heavily buttered
Still talking about the cobs?
Post by: TheRam on July 25, 2018, 12:36:39 AM
Heavily buttered
Beautifully timed.
Post by: Macca77 on July 25, 2018, 12:39:02 AM
Still talking about the cobs?
Haha nicely done
Post by: Escla on July 25, 2018, 12:39:44 AM
Has to be with crusty cobs. She won't make it if she hasn't got them.
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Got to have a side of pickled cabbage with it too !
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 25, 2018, 01:07:39 AM
Has to be with crusty cobs. She won't make it if she hasn't got them.Crusty cobs and topped with sliced beetroot
Post by: Brownie on July 25, 2018, 01:12:55 AM
Post by: eugene on July 25, 2018, 01:19:05 AM
Post by: blargins on July 25, 2018, 01:19:23 AM
The nation that lives on steak, fried chicken and fries takes the piss out of British food?
Everybody in the world takes the piss out of British food.
I've married into an Italian family as well, so they have that over me too.
Post by: blue slug on July 25, 2018, 01:20:40 AM
Post by: eugene on July 25, 2018, 01:21:37 AM
Everybody in the world takes the piss out of British food.Built an empire and won 2 world wars did British grub,
I've married into an Italian family as well, so they have that over me too.
Post by: eugene on July 25, 2018, 01:22:25 AM
I need crusty cobs right now ffsThick with country life butter?
Post by: blargins on July 25, 2018, 01:23:27 AM
Built an empire and won 2 world wars did British grub,
Spartans didn't pretty well on shitty food too.
Post by: plowman2 on July 25, 2018, 01:27:01 AM
Post by: blue slug on July 25, 2018, 01:27:58 AM
Post by: eugene on July 25, 2018, 01:28:43 AM
Spartans didn't pretty well on shitty food too.Nah crap we battered them too!
Post by: boothill on July 25, 2018, 01:29:36 AM
Surely it's the suggestion that people who eat them are a lower class of person. Like people who piss themselvesyeah kopites or people from burnley
Post by: Escla on July 25, 2018, 01:34:13 AM
Everybody in the world takes the piss out of British food.
I've married into an Italian family as well, so they have that over me too.
London has more Michelin star restaurants than Paris. It’s over thirty years ago since the phrase was coined “if you want to eat well in England you need to eat breakfast three times a day” British chefs are
celebrated all over the world.
Post by: Alanvideo on July 25, 2018, 01:41:54 AM
London has more Michelin star restaurants than Paris. It’s over thirty years ago since the phrase was coined “if you want to eat well in England you need to eat breakfast three times a day” British chefs are.......................I quite agree @Escla (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=5210) our food is amongst the best . Unfortunately as a nation we can' t or won't cook. We now have a generation of kids who can't even use cutlery. :blush:
celebrated all over the world.
Post by: Brownie on July 25, 2018, 01:43:18 AM
London has more Michelin star restaurants than Paris. It’s over thirty years ago since the phrase was coined “if you want to eat well in England you need to eat breakfast three times a day” British chefs are
celebrated all over the world.
Especially when using quality local produce
Post by: blargins on July 25, 2018, 01:43:25 AM
London has more Michelin star restaurants than Paris. It’s over thirty years ago since the phrase was coined “if you want to eat well in England you need to eat breakfast three times a day” British chefs are
celebrated all over the world.
Nonetheless, British food is still taken the piss out of. Most people don't eat at fancy restaurants either.
I like British food, so I really don't care. In fact, it's great. I get all the Marmite to myself, all the Branston Pickle, salad cream and other stuff.
Peanut butter and jelly is disgusting. And I can't stand Italian food either. Pasta and tomatoes are shite.
Post by: eugene on July 25, 2018, 01:43:47 AM
Post by: Brownie on July 25, 2018, 01:48:27 AM
Nonetheless, British food is still taken the piss out of. Most people don't eat at fancy restaurants either.
I like British food, so I really don't care. In fact, it's great. I get all the Marmite to myself, all the Branston Pickle, salad cream and other stuff.
Peanut butter and jelly is disgusting. And I can't stand Italian food either. Pasta and tomatoes are shite.
I don't mind Italian but it wouldn't be my first choice for a meal out
Post by: blue slug on July 25, 2018, 01:51:05 AM
Post by: blargins on July 25, 2018, 01:53:02 AM
Chinese is ok, but I think the quality is pretty shit over here.
Post by: blue slug on July 25, 2018, 01:54:50 AM
Post by: blue slug on July 25, 2018, 01:55:42 AM
Post by: Brownie on July 25, 2018, 01:57:46 AM
Indian is my favorite and I am so happy we have found an Indian restaurant about a 20 minute drive from home.
Chinese is ok, but I think the quality is pretty shit over here.
Found Indian was really expensive in the States
Post by: eugene on July 25, 2018, 02:01:50 AM
Post by: boothill on July 25, 2018, 02:01:58 AM
Post by: Escla on July 25, 2018, 02:04:42 AM
Nonetheless, British food is still taken the piss out of. Most people don't eat at fancy restaurants either.
I like British food, so I really don't care. In fact, it's great. I get all the Marmite to myself, all the Branston Pickle, salad cream and other stuff.
Peanut butter and jelly is disgusting. And I can't stand Italian food either. Pasta and tomatoes are shite.
I don’t agree that British food is taken the piss out of, by who ? the lard arsed Americans raised on mega portion full fat burgers and fried chicken? and FYI marmite, Branson pickle and salad cream has fuck all to do with British Cuisine, we have great chefs cooking traditional cuisine, Rick Stein, Brian Turner, James Martin, Jamie Oliver , Gordon Ramsay and dozens more, theres one half decent chef in America that is an Austrian, Wolfgang Puch, started out o.k but has now moved into steak house and Pizza franchises because that’s where the money is in a Trumpland.
Post by: blargins on July 25, 2018, 02:06:06 AM
Found Indian was really expensive in the States
In general I've found that too. The one near me is very reasonable. Average meal is $13. I can never finish it there either, always too much, so bring it home to finish off a day or two later.
Post by: Escla on July 25, 2018, 02:12:01 AM
Quite partial to Middle eastern food, mates family from Lebanon and have had some great food, don’t ask me what it’s called it’s just tasty
Lived in the Middle East for six years, Lebanese the king of cuisines, you are talking about Kibbeh, babbaganoush, , shish taouk, shawarmah etc. In London eat at Fahkreldine on Piccadilly, Al Hamra on Edgeware Rd, great take away/ home delivery from Comptoir Libanese in Kensington, they also have outlets Ar Heathrow, Gatwick and Westfield London Stadium ( had a West Ham pre match mezzeh there)
Post by: blargins on July 25, 2018, 02:13:01 AM
I don’t agree that British food is taken the piss out of, by who ? the lard arsed Americans raised on mega portion full fat burgers and fried chicken? and FYI marmite, Branson pickle and salad cream has fuck all to do with British Cuisine, we have great chefs cooking traditional cuisine, Rick Stein, Brian Turner, James Martin, Jamie Oliver , Gordon Ramsay and dozens more, theres one half decent chef in America that is an Austrian, Wolfgang Puch, started out o.k but has now moved into steak house and Pizza franchises because that’s where the money is in a Trumpland.
It's taken the piss out of by the French as well. Big time. It's something I've always come across in my travels overseas, British food has a poor reputation. I think it stems from the fact we had to ration everything during and after the war. The reputation still exists. Boiling the fuck out of potatoes and veggies is a big one for example.
I know the foods I mentioned aren't true British food either. That's just the stuff I can get on a fairly regular basis that I like from Britain.
And how many meals have you eaten by those chefs you mention anyway? That's a different class of food altogether anyway.
Post by: boothill on July 25, 2018, 02:13:15 AM
In general I've found that too. The one near me is very reasonable. Average meal is $13. I can never finish it there either, always too much, so bring it home to finish off a day or two later.what does a take away cost blarg ?
Post by: blargins on July 25, 2018, 02:13:52 AM
what does a take away cost blarg ?
Indian? The same as if you ate there.
Post by: Brownie on July 25, 2018, 02:17:56 AM
Quite partial to Middle eastern food, mates family from Lebanon and have had some great food, don’t ask me what it’s called it’s just tasty
Love Middle Eastern food. City Road in the centre of Cardiff has four or five great Middle Eastern restaurants
Post by: Escla on July 25, 2018, 02:23:21 AM
It's taken the piss out of by the French as well. Big time. It's something I've always come across in my travels overseas, British food has a poor reputation. I think it stems from the fact we had to ration everything during and after the war. The reputation still exists. Boiling the fuck out of potatoes and veggies is a big one for example.
I know the foods I mentioned aren't true British food either. That's just the stuff I can get on a fairly regular basis that I like from Britain.
And how many meals have you eaten by those chefs you mention anyway? That's a different class of food altogether anyway.
FYI, and for your further elucidation, the French take the piss out of every other country on this planets cuisine, none more so than the U.S. and BTW, have eaten in many of those and equivalent standard restaurants, admittedly mostly on biz expenses or in an other professional capacity.
Post by: blargins on July 25, 2018, 02:25:34 AM
FYI, and for your further elucidation, the French take the piss out of every other country on this planets cuisine, none more so than the U.S. and BTW, have eaten in many of those and equivalent standard restaurants, admittedly mostly on biz expenses or in an other professional capacity.
Most people haven't and don't normally. High end restaurants are really not the norm.
The fact is, wherever I've been, other nations take the piss out of British food.
Post by: Escla on July 25, 2018, 02:31:49 AM
Most people haven't and don't normally. High end restaurants are really not the norm.
The fact is, wherever I've been, other nations take the piss out of British food.
TBH Blargs, I’m guessing I’ve been to many other nations than you and that has not been my experience
so leave it at that.
Post by: GLewis on July 25, 2018, 02:36:22 AM
My mums meat to potatoe ratio in a pan of scouse is a disgrace tbh.
Wouldn’t traditionally expect a big meat ration.
Post by: Escla on July 25, 2018, 02:39:40 AM
Wouldn’t traditionally expect a big meat ration.
Especially not in a “ blind Scouse “ (yes, we had it as kids !)
Post by: blargins on July 25, 2018, 02:42:16 AM
TBH Blargs, I’m guessing I’ve been to many other nations than you and that has not been my experience
so leave it at that.
Ok, whatever you say. Not sure why you're so vexed by it, but there you go.
Post by: eugene on July 25, 2018, 02:43:44 AM
Post by: Toffee Tuesdays on July 25, 2018, 02:45:18 AM
Most people haven't and don't normally. High end restaurants are really not the norm.
The fact is, wherever I've been, other nations take the piss out of British food.
Definitely a stereotype I've heard. When I went to England when I was younger our tour guide even jokingly apologized for the food. I enjoyed it though
Post by: Escla on July 25, 2018, 02:46:27 AM
Ok, whatever you say. Not sure why you're so vexed by it, but there you go.
Not in the least vexed Blargs, just don’t think that you are qualified to make judgement statement on what the rest of the world thinks about British cuisine, think you might be falling back on the the old fish and chips or steak and kidney pie perception commonly held by foreigners, no harm done.
Post by: blargins on July 25, 2018, 02:48:25 AM
Not in the least vexed Blargs, just don’t think that you are qualified to make judgement statement on what the rest of the world thinks about British cuisine, think you might be falling back on the the old fish and chips or steak and kidney pie perception commonly held by foreigners, no harm done.
I'm just going by whatever I've heard, and it's pretty much the same thing every country I've visited. Perhaps I don't keep with the same class of people as you?
Post by: Confucius on July 25, 2018, 02:48:36 AM
People all over the world take the piss out of British Food. Sure you have great restaurants but they not serving authentic British cuisine as it's main items.
Portoguese food is the best especially Peri-Peri prawns.
Post by: eugene on July 25, 2018, 02:51:03 AM
Post by: Escla on July 25, 2018, 02:51:59 AM
@Escla (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=5210)
People all over the world take the piss out of British Food. Sure you have great restaurants but they not serving authentic British cuisine as it's main items.
Portoguese food is the best especially Peri-Peri prawns.
Con, or Blargs for that matter, could you please give me three examples of what you call “authentic British cuisine” ?
Btw. peri peri is Angolan, not Portuguese.
Post by: Confucius on July 25, 2018, 02:55:04 AM
Con, or Blargs for that matter, could you please give me three examples of what you call “authentic British cuisine” ?
Yorkshire Pudding
Mushy peas
Black Pudding
Roast Beef(actually like this)
Fish and Chips
Steak and Kidney Pie
toad in the hole.
Post by: Confucius on July 25, 2018, 02:55:42 AM
Con, or Blargs for that matter, could you please give me three examples of what you call “authentic British cuisine” ?
Btw. peri peri is Angolan, not Portuguese.
Yeah you are kind of right. Mozambican actually
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 25, 2018, 02:56:22 AM
@Escla (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=5210)Con... I love you
People all over the world take the piss out of British Food. Sure you have great restaurants but they not serving authentic British cuisine as it's main items.
Portoguese food is the best especially Peri-Peri prawns.
Post by: TheRam on July 25, 2018, 02:57:49 AM
@Escla (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=5210)
People all over the world take the piss out of British Food. Sure you have great restaurants but they not serving authentic British cuisine as it's main items.
Portoguese food is the best especially Peri-Peri prawns.
Portuguese food is spectacular.
Post by: blargins on July 25, 2018, 02:59:18 AM
Con, or Blargs for that matter, could you please give me three examples of what you call “authentic British cuisine” ?
Btw. peri peri is Angolan, not Portuguese.
I'd add onto what Con wrote above, bubble & squeak, Scouse has to be there too I guess :). Bangers & mash (yummy). I'll think of some more, it's been a long time.
Post by: Escla on July 25, 2018, 03:08:54 AM
Yorkshire Pudding
Mushy peas
Black Pudding
Roast Beef(actually like this)
Fish and Chips
Steak and Kidney Pie
toad in the hole.
Yorkshire pudding is a garnish, not a dish, mushy peas are an accompaniment, Black pudding a componant of a full English breakfast, greatest in the world, Roast beef, yes we eat a lot of this, and it’s good.
Fish and chips, nobody does it better than the Sea Shell in Lisson Grove or Jules off Kensington High St,
served with a buttered bread roll and a bottle of Frascatti, steak and kidney pie, agreed a great English dish, toad in the hole, nice if you have quality sausages in it, but I equally enjoy a good boerawoerst off a decent Braai in S,A.
Post by: Escla on July 25, 2018, 03:12:54 AM
I'd add onto what Con wrote above, bubble & squeak, Scouse has to be there too I guess :). Bangers & mash (yummy). I'll think of some more, it's been a long time.
Too long I think Blargs, the Lyons Cafe on Piccadilly Circus has long gone and the Wimpy went in 1976 😀
Post by: GLewis on July 25, 2018, 03:14:35 AM
Post by: Bluedylan on July 25, 2018, 03:15:44 AM
Post by: Escla on July 25, 2018, 03:20:06 AM
We do have quality produce here (eg fish/ seas food - lots of the mussels, hake etc that you get in Spain is from here) just that much of it has slipped from people’s diets.
Am in Tenby at the moment, fresh dressed crab, Whole lobster less than £15 , just had a fresh caught mackerel in brown butter with Pembrokeshire new potatoes (ask Brownie, better than Jersey Royals all day long) and you are right, some of our best fish being served in France/Spain/Portugal.
Post by: eugene on July 25, 2018, 03:22:50 AM
Post by: gizzblue on July 25, 2018, 03:22:59 AM
Yorkshire pudding is a garnish, not a dish, mushy peas are an accompaniment, Black pudding a componant of a full English breakfast, greatest in the world, Roast beef, yes we eat a lot of this, and it’s good.
Fish and chips, nobody does it better than the Sea Shell in Lisson Grove or Jules off Kensington High St,
served with a buttered bread roll and a bottle of Frascatti, steak and kidney pie, agreed a great English dish, toad in the hole, nice if you have quality sausages in it, but I equally enjoy a good boerawoerst off a decent Brie in S,A.
Just an fyi black pudding is way more than a breakfast thing .....I love it on salads sprinkled over ....but my absolute fave is smoked haddock fillet poached egg ,mushy peas and bury black pudding ....its awesome ...and certainly not just for breckie :thumbsup:
Post by: Escla on July 25, 2018, 03:25:11 AM
Just an fyi black putting is way more than a breakfast thing .....I love it on salads sprinkled over ....but my absolute fave is smoked haddock fillet poached egg ,mushy peas and bury black pudding ....its awesome ...and certainly not just for breckie :thumbsup:
Bury black pudding the best in the world ! Love it on a salad too with a soft poached egg, sounds great with the haddock, will try that.
Post by: Confucius on July 25, 2018, 03:41:16 AM
Yorkshire pudding is a garnish, not a dish, mushy peas are an accompaniment, Black pudding a componant of a full English breakfast, greatest in the world, Roast beef, yes we eat a lot of this, and it’s good.
Fish and chips, nobody does it better than the Sea Shell in Lisson Grove or Jules off Kensington High St,
served with a buttered bread roll and a bottle of Frascatti, steak and kidney pie, agreed a great English dish, toad in the hole, nice if you have quality sausages in it, but I equally enjoy a good boerawoerst off a decent Braai in S,A.
Love a good braai. English breakfast is decent but not my fvourite
Post by: Escla on July 25, 2018, 03:43:28 AM
Love a good braai. English breakfast is decent but not my fvourite
Actually a full Irish is better, includes all the English plus white pudding and potato pancakes.
Post by: GLewis on July 25, 2018, 03:47:01 AM
Post by: Makis on July 25, 2018, 04:08:01 AM
Post by: GLewis on July 25, 2018, 04:17:39 AM
Anyone who likes Indian, try Nepalese. I prefer it over Indian, Indian food is too often just about the curry whereas Nepalese food has more variety.
Your general Indian restaurant is usually homegenous - a bit like if you had a European restaurant and just picked one dish from each country and repeated the formula everywhere.
Certainly outside of London you don’t seem to see too many regional restaurants, although you do get some South Indian ones these days, but they provide much more variety than just “curry”.
Post by: Jamokachi on July 25, 2018, 04:25:20 AM
Didn't find it funny myself but it's one of them where you have to be a bit of a racist to detect anything racist in it. I certainly didn't. Piss, onion bhajis and hot dog water. How is that racist in any way shape or form?
You fucking what?
Post by: Confucius on July 25, 2018, 04:26:27 AM
Turkish breakfast is a mad selection of salads, cheeses, eggs, sausages, olives, different jams bread etc.
Indian breakfast is curry and puri. So delicious
Post by: GLewis on July 25, 2018, 04:27:47 AM
Indian breakfast is curry and puri. So delicious
I’d be up for that.
Post by: Brownie on July 25, 2018, 04:32:05 AM
Portuguese food is spectacular.
Come down for the Cardiff game and I'll take you to an awesome Portuguese restaurant
Post by: Brownie on July 25, 2018, 04:33:46 AM
Am in Tenby at the moment, fresh dressed crab, Whole lobster less than £15 , just had a fresh caught mackerel in brown butter with Pembrokeshire new potatoes (ask Brownie, better than Jersey Royals all day long) and you are right, some of our best fish being served in France/Spain/Portugal.
When you leaving Tenby?
Post by: Jamokachi on July 25, 2018, 04:34:05 AM
Post by: Brownie on July 25, 2018, 04:51:40 AM
Actually a full Irish is better, includes all the English plus white pudding and potato pancakes.
Add some Laverbread for a Welsh brekkie 😋
Post by: Cassius on July 25, 2018, 04:53:37 AM
There are some Indian restaurants springing up here that serve the sort of food I ate when I worked in Mumbai, which is so much better. Pani Puri, Wada Pav, Dosas etc. Awesome stuff.
(Just trying to elevate my post to Escla's levels of bourgeoisie)
Post by: Confucius on July 25, 2018, 05:00:24 AM
Post by: Bluedylan on July 25, 2018, 05:12:33 AM
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 25, 2018, 05:36:27 AM
Lived in the Middle East for six years, Lebanese the king of cuisines, you are talking about Kibbeh, babbaganoush, , shish taouk, shawarmah etc. In London eat at Fahkreldine on Piccadilly, Al Hamra on Edgeware Rd, great take away/ home delivery from Comptoir Libanese in Kensington, they also have outlets Ar Heathrow, Gatwick and Westfield London Stadium ( had a West Ham pre match mezzeh there)
Should I give this a go for sure? And recommendations on what to try?
Post by: blargins on July 25, 2018, 05:39:15 AM
Indian food in the UK is rarely from India though. It's usually Bangladeshi. At least here in Birmingham anyway.
There are some Indian restaurants springing up here that serve the sort of food I ate when I worked in Mumbai, which is so much better. Pani Puri, Wada Pav, Dosas etc. Awesome stuff.
(Just trying to elevate my post to Escla's levels of bourgeoisie)
Chinese food is even worse in that regard. Most of it is from New York.
Post by: brap2 on July 25, 2018, 05:43:37 AM
Lived in the Middle East for six years, Lebanese the king of cuisines, you are talking about Kibbeh, babbaganoush, , shish taouk, shawarmah etc. In London eat at Fahkreldine on Piccadilly, Al Hamra on Edgeware Rd, great take away/ home delivery from Comptoir Libanese in Kensington, they also have outlets Ar Heathrow, Gatwick and Westfield London Stadium ( had a West Ham pre match mezzeh there)
Love middle eastern / med food. Seems to be quite good since I have a nut allergy as well.
Fresh salad, pork, chicken, olives, halloumi.
Fuckin starving now nice one.
Post by: sam of the south on July 25, 2018, 05:46:02 AM
Just an fyi black pudding is way more than a breakfast thing .....I love it on salads sprinkled over ....but my absolute fave is smoked haddock fillet poached egg ,mushy peas and bury black pudding ....its awesome ...and certainly not just for breckie :thumbsup:
Black Pudding is glorious filth.
The best black pudding I had was served underneath massive scallops (including roe) with pea pureé and drizzled in hollandaise.
Oh yeah, and there was crispy bacon as well.
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 25, 2018, 05:50:26 AM
Love middle eastern / med food. Seems to be quite good since I have a nut allergy as well.
Fresh salad, pork, chicken, olives, halloumi.
Fuckin starving now nice one.
Halloumi mate. I’ve discovered that this is one of my favourite 420 snacks.
Post by: dunkster on July 25, 2018, 05:55:44 AM
Post by: Ramjam on July 25, 2018, 06:01:04 AM
Post by: blargins on July 25, 2018, 06:05:09 AM
Is Silva still our manager by the way?
Who?
Post by: Brownie on July 25, 2018, 06:12:47 AM
Black Pudding is glorious filth.
The best black pudding I had was served underneath massive scallops (including roe) with pea pureé and drizzled in hollandaise
Food porn
Post by: sam of the south on July 25, 2018, 06:50:37 AM
Food porn
Seriously, Brownie, I nearly fucking died that day 💦💦💦
And funnily enough I had a hot chocolate brownie and white chocolate ice cream for dessert as well.
Post by: Escla on July 25, 2018, 01:14:25 PM
When you leaving Tenby?
In about an hour, quick stop off in Narberth then back to the smoke and heat.
Post by: Escla on July 25, 2018, 02:01:02 PM
Should I give this a go for sure? And recommendations on what to try?
Closed down unfortunately, try the Al Hamra round the corner in Shepherd Market, just as good as Fakreldine was but just as pricey.
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 25, 2018, 02:45:20 PM
Closed down unfortunately, try the Al Hamra round the corner in Shepherd Market, just as good as Fakreldine was but just as pricey.
Any tips on places in soho?
Post by: Brownie on July 25, 2018, 02:54:32 PM
In about an hour, quick stop off in Narberth then back to the smoke and heat.
Ah gutted. I'll probably be down there some time this week.
Post by: Bluedylan on July 26, 2018, 05:09:14 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5992663/Watford-reignite-compensation-claim-against-Everton-Marco-Silva-affair.html
Post by: Ramjam on July 26, 2018, 06:30:43 AM
Cheeky fuckers -What a joke, no one will tell me that this didn’t come up during negotiations, fuck wits
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5992663/Watford-reignite-compensation-claim-against-Everton-Marco-Silva-affair.html
Post by: bluestevie on July 26, 2018, 05:03:05 PM
Post by: Lxxx on July 26, 2018, 05:07:03 PM
Post by: Brownie on July 26, 2018, 05:07:59 PM
Just a bunch of jokers aren't they, trying to extract as much money from the English game as possible before probably selling it on for a decent profit.
And they haven't even posted anything about food the bad bells.
Post by: Macca77 on July 26, 2018, 05:11:08 PM
Post by: Ramjam on July 26, 2018, 05:11:12 PM
They've made it official now with a statement on their websiteThey believe that they have forfeited any compensation claim as they did not follow the correct arbitration process.
Post by: TheRam on July 26, 2018, 05:11:56 PM
Post by: Macca77 on July 26, 2018, 05:12:43 PM
Post by: Alanvideo on July 26, 2018, 05:16:13 PM
I honestly don't understand their thinking at all, surely they lost their right to any compo on the day the sacked him...............you can read the statement t's in the Echo . So now it's not about money they just want to be twats and see us get a fine or points deduction.
Post by: Macca77 on July 26, 2018, 05:17:38 PM
...............you can read the statement t's in the Echo . So now it's not about money they just want to be twats and see us get a fine or points deduction.
Copy and paste please, can't be doing with all the adverts in the echo, takes ages to open it
Post by: Jamokachi on July 26, 2018, 05:19:29 PM
Anyone actually read the statement?
Yep, forfeited any right to compensation, so it's not about the money.
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on July 26, 2018, 05:21:20 PM
Post by: Ramjam on July 26, 2018, 05:21:53 PM
Post by: Jamokachi on July 26, 2018, 05:22:36 PM
Watford FC feels compelled to make the following statement in a bid to correct erroneous and misleading media reports concerning an ongoing dispute with Everton FC.
The club have made an official complaint to the Premier League over an allegation of an illegal approach to former manager, Marco Silva.
The complaint to the Premier League makes clear the seriousness of the allegation and what the club believes is overwhelming evidence of a clear breach of Premier League rules.
At the request of the Premier League we entered into mediation with Everton in a process that involved club officials and their respective legal teams, with no conclusion being reached.
Therefore the disciplinary process continues. In pursuing its disciplinary claim, the club has known from the outset it forfeited any right to compensation as a consequence of not following a proposed arbitration process.
We believe this situation is not about a compensation figure but the principle of making a stand when the actions of one Premier League club completely undermine and cause intrinsic damage to a fellow member club.
We trust in the Premier League to fully investigate the complaint and we will comply with that process.
The club will be making no further comment
https://www.watfordfc.com/club/club-statement-watford-fc-official-statement
Post by: Brownie on July 26, 2018, 05:27:23 PM
Post by: sam of the south on July 26, 2018, 05:32:32 PM
They are basically saying they want us to have points deducted.
That is no way for a fellow football club to conduct themselves.
It’s Kopite behaviour.
Post by: Sixx1402 on July 26, 2018, 05:38:26 PM
This is quite spiteful, to be honest.
They are basically saying they want us to have points deducted.
That is no way for a fellow football club to conduct themselves.
It’s Kopite behaviour.
It's exactly what they're after.
I hope the don't have any grounds for it as starting the season on minus points will be shit.
It's never happened to any other premier league club as far as I can remember, would just be our luck though
Post by: Ross on July 26, 2018, 05:39:19 PM
Apart from worse case scenario points deduction (which I doubt we’ll get) all this negative publicity heaps more pressure on Silva to be an instant success because the media and pundits will be jumping all over him/us and asking questions right from the start.
What is interesting is iirc the club media friendly journalists at the time were quick to distance Kenwright from the managerial hunt.
Post by: Macca77 on July 26, 2018, 05:52:46 PM
Post by: brap2 on July 26, 2018, 05:54:13 PM
Post by: gizzblue on July 26, 2018, 05:54:45 PM
It's exactly what they're after.
I hope the don't have any grounds for it as starting the season on minus points will be shit.
It's never happened to any other premier league club as far as I can remember, would just be our luck though
Nobody had ever been banned after the fact for diving ....so we are deffo a club for firsts. .....especially when it means the fa have to make an example of someone ....
I mean they can't be giving band id points deductions to one of the media darlings .
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on July 26, 2018, 05:55:36 PM
Post by: TheRam on July 26, 2018, 06:09:32 PM
There's nothing in this
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on July 26, 2018, 06:10:32 PM
wouldn't bet against us being the 1st though....TWATS
Post by: sam of the south on July 26, 2018, 06:14:29 PM
1. Oumar
2. Niasse
Post by: Bluenose 91 on July 26, 2018, 06:19:54 PM
Post by: Cereal Killer on July 26, 2018, 06:20:49 PM
Post by: GLewis on July 26, 2018, 06:24:57 PM
We've obviously done something very wrong here.
Apart from worse case scenario points deduction (which I doubt we’ll get) all this negative publicity heaps more pressure on Silva to be an instant success because the media and pundits will be jumping all over him/us and asking questions right from the start.
What is interesting is iirc the club media friendly journalists at the time were quick to distance Kenwright from the managerial hunt.
Don’t think we have.
And don’t think the media will be interested once the season starts and there are plenty of real things to talk about so can’t see any pressure being raised that wouldn’t be there anyway.
They’re just saving face because they made a fuss and have now realised that they can’t get any money from it and don’t want to look like they’ve been cheaply fobbed off as part of the Richarlison deal.
Post by: Macca77 on July 26, 2018, 06:26:01 PM
Post by: SANA_DR0 on July 26, 2018, 06:29:43 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44963596
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 26, 2018, 06:33:22 PM
Post by: Ross on July 26, 2018, 06:34:42 PM
Don’t think we have.
And don’t think the media will be interested once the season starts and there are plenty of real things to talk about so can’t see any pressure being raised that wouldn’t be there anyway.
They’re just saving face because they made a fuss and have now realised that they can’t get any money from it and don’t want to look like they’ve been cheaply fobbed off as part of the Richarlison deal.
If we don’t start well and this is rumbling on in the background the media will definitely start using the “was he worth it” narrative.
Watford clearly feel they’ve got some sort of case and they’re pushing the league to judge on it, whether they have or not only time and an investigation will tell I suppose. The sooner it’s sorted the better for all parties.
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on July 26, 2018, 06:36:31 PM
Post by: Lxxx on July 26, 2018, 06:36:37 PM
Post by: GLewis on July 26, 2018, 06:37:38 PM
If we don’t start well and this is rumbling on in the background the media will definitely start using the “was he worth it” narrative.
Watford clearly feel they’ve got some sort of case and they’re pushing the league to judge on it, whether they have or not only time and an investigation will tell I suppose. The sooner it’s sorted the better for all parties.
Yeah it would be better if it just went away.
Anyway let hope we have a good start so it’s irrelevant :)
Post by: Macca77 on July 26, 2018, 06:38:04 PM
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 26, 2018, 06:45:05 PM
Post by: brap2 on July 26, 2018, 06:46:43 PM
Don’t think we have.
And don’t think the media will be interested once the season starts and there are plenty of real things to talk about so can’t see any pressure being raised that wouldn’t be there anyway.
They’re just saving face because they made a fuss and have now realised that they can’t get any money from it and don’t want to look like they’ve been cheaply fobbed off as part of the Richarlison deal.
Yeah agree, think it was actually a walk-back reading between the lines.
Not pursuing everton, happy to leave it to the league to handle.
I’m sure they wouldn’t mind if we got a point ban but I really can’t see it like.
Post by: blargins on July 26, 2018, 06:54:41 PM
Post by: bluestevie on July 26, 2018, 10:35:12 PM
We've obviously done something very wrong here.
Apart from worse case scenario points deduction (which I doubt we’ll get) all this negative publicity heaps more pressure on Silva to be an instant success because the media and pundits will be jumping all over him/us and asking questions right from the start.
What is interesting is iirc the club media friendly journalists at the time were quick to distance Kenwright from the managerial hunt.
I get the impression you want us to be found wrong and Silva to be under pressure, might be wrong like but that's how it comes across
Post by: Ross on July 26, 2018, 10:48:23 PM
I get the impression you want us to be found wrong and Silva to be under pressure, might be wrong like but that's how it comes across
I get the impression you’re imagining things that aren’t there.
Post by: gizzblue on July 26, 2018, 10:50:03 PM
In the real world we will be absolved ....but the fa don't work in the real world at times .
Post by: bluenuck on July 26, 2018, 11:20:24 PM
They've had 9 managers in 5 years, that tells a story itself.
We're right on pace for that... 5 in 3
Post by: Bluedylan on July 27, 2018, 12:19:19 AM
So then I suppose it comes down to a personal opinion whether you think we should rise above these things and not stoop to the level of some other clubs, or whether you think 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
Post by: blargins on July 27, 2018, 12:30:15 AM
Post by: 74Blue on July 27, 2018, 02:18:30 AM
I still believe we have already been punished anyway. We had Fat Sam for several months. What more do they want?That would be a fantastic counter claim. We could demand that Watford re-imburse us for the fat cunt's pay-off due to them acting like complete twats when we decided we wanted their manager and forcing us to employ that fucking corrupt lard arsed gravy swigging bastard.
Post by: Jamokachi on July 27, 2018, 11:57:39 AM
Post by: Nicco on July 27, 2018, 01:14:40 PM
If this had happened the other way 'round we'd be furious with Watford, and quite probably rightly so.Happens all the time to our players. Lukaku to be the latest, soon it will Pickford and then Richarlison.
Just a shame it didnt happen to Allardice....
Post by: Macca77 on July 27, 2018, 03:45:04 PM
https://twitter.com/wfcmatchday/status/1022602089053253632
Post by: Lazarou on July 27, 2018, 03:47:09 PM
Get on this,
https://twitter.com/wfcmatchday/status/1022602089053253632
Wow! Get a fucking grip.
Post by: TheRam on July 27, 2018, 03:50:24 PM
Fucks sake macca.
Post by: Lxxx on July 27, 2018, 03:52:32 PM
Post by: Macca77 on July 27, 2018, 03:53:37 PM
It’s a wind up.
Fucks sake macca.
I know mate, some of the replies though, they're marvelous.
Post by: Toffee1 on July 27, 2018, 04:05:15 PM
I know mate, some of the replies though, they're marvelous.
The one I liked was the about bringing Elton John along for a sing song.
Post by: Confucius on July 27, 2018, 11:00:03 PM
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on July 29, 2018, 02:02:33 AM
Personally I think him taking this job though is completely the wrong timing in where Everton are currently at, difficult to play the way he wants with many of these players who need shipping out. Maybe the Everton manager in three years time but not sure that time is now.
On the evidence of pre season results it's worrying, many of these players will be moved on in various transfer windows. I hope he gets given that time to get his own squad together which may be in 18 months/2 years time.
Post by: Waltzer on July 29, 2018, 02:10:25 AM
I wasn't keen on Silva as manager in the first instance, but when appointed was happy to back him.Think Silva will do well given the chance, its to be seen whether he will be. So far Moshiri hasn't shown much patience when things start to go wrong so it could be a difficult first 6 months for him.
Personally I think him taking this job though is completely the wrong timing in where Everton are currently at, difficult to play the way he wants with many of these players who need shipping out. Maybe the Everton manager in three years time but not sure that time is now.
On the evidence of pre season results it's worrying, many of these players will be moved on in various transfer windows. I hope he gets given that time to get his own squad together which may be in 18 months/2 years time.
Post by: Shogun on July 29, 2018, 02:12:01 AM
Post by: Bluedylan on July 29, 2018, 02:13:14 AM
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on July 29, 2018, 02:13:29 AM
Post by: Martip on July 29, 2018, 02:16:02 AM
I think over time he'll be a good manager, but we might have a bit of a rocky road, until him and Brands have got the squad a bit more suitable to the desired style of play. When I say 'rocky road' I don't mean anywhere near relegation. Probably around the Top 10, with some good results and maybe the odd shocker.So many issues that it's impossible to rectify in one window. I reckon 12-18 months and we 'll start reaping the benefits.
Post by: Waltzer on July 29, 2018, 02:17:24 AM
I think over time he'll be a good manager, but we might have a bit of a rocky road, until him and Brands have got the squad a bit more suitable to the desired style of play. When I say 'rocky road' I don't mean anywhere near relegation. Probably around the Top 10, with some good results and maybe the odd shocker.I think the next few days will determine how rocky and how close to the relegation zone we are, if we went into the season as we are now I think its a long few months until January, even worst than going in with no striker like last year.
Post by: themilkycoffees on July 29, 2018, 02:20:45 AM
Post by: Waltzer on July 29, 2018, 02:22:51 AM
We're an absolute shambles at the minute and look like conceding every time we're attacked. Some people's heads are buried in the sand if they think are current defensive options are PL standard. Just hope people don't jump on Silva and/or Brands too early as they're cleaning up someone else's mess. We need 4 or 5 players in and fast.Need to find a Delorean and get them in weeks ago.
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on July 29, 2018, 02:24:26 AM
I wasn't keen on Silva as manager in the first instance, but when appointed was happy to back him.A lot of shouts about Silva not having the players to play his way which may be true but he's not exactly a proven manager yet is he? could yet prove an awful choice, obviously very early days but first impression is he's a bit Koemanez..
Personally I think him taking this job though is completely the wrong timing in where Everton are currently at, difficult to play the way he wants with many of these players who need shipping out. Maybe the Everton manager in three years time but not sure that time is now.
On the evidence of pre season results it's worrying, many of these players will be moved on in various transfer windows. I hope he gets given that time to get his own squad together which may be in 18 months/2 years time.
Post by: sam of the south on July 29, 2018, 02:25:22 AM
We're an absolute shambles at the minute and look like conceding every time we're attacked. Some people's heads are buried in the sand if they think are current defensive options are PL standard. Just hope people don't jump on Silva and/or Brands too early as they're cleaning up someone else's mess. We need 4 or 5 players in and fast.
I agree with the last bit especially.
Fuck it, I actually agree with all of it, unfortunately.
Post by: Martip on July 29, 2018, 02:26:27 AM
We're an absolute shambles at the minute and look like conceding every time we're attacked. Some people's heads are buried in the sand if they think are current defensive options are PL standard. Just hope people don't jump on Silva and/or Brands too early as they're cleaning up someone else's mess. We need 4 or 5 players in and fast.True says
Post by: Silas on July 29, 2018, 02:27:47 AM
Post by: Martip on July 29, 2018, 02:30:32 AM
A lot of drama we've been poor pre season but it's not a relegation team. We'll still be comfortably top half because there's some fucking shite in the Premier league. A few signings and we'll make a decent fist of it.Without any cb signings the only fist we 'll see is mine being shaken towards the players
Post by: Waltzer on July 29, 2018, 02:33:28 AM
A lot of drama we've been poor pre season but it's not a relegation team. We'll still be comfortably top half because there's some fucking shite in the Premier league. A few signings and we'll make a decent fist of it.I don't think we're a relegation candidate but it's surprising how quickly things can change. Fulham are on the crest of a wave, made good signings on the face of it, similar to wolves so newly promoted teams aren't the guaranteed strugglers as before, whereas we seem to be nearer the bottom of the wave and in a bit of a state.
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on July 29, 2018, 02:39:36 AM
A lot of shouts about Silva not having the players to play his way which may be true but he's not exactly a proven manager yet is he? could yet prove an awful choice, obviously very early days but first impression is he's a bit Koemanez..
I'd be inclined to agree with that. That was one of my reservations about Silva.
When Martinez came in he had a well drilled defence amd tinkered with a good squad by injectiing some pace with Deulofeu and Lukaku in what was an already well assembled squad left by Moyes.
No way can Silva come to Everton and tinker with this side and get them playing expansive football.
This is why this job might be too soon for Silva. The characteristics of a manger we need at this moment in time to deal with the bottle merchants we have is not the one I see in Silva. Going by the way Silva left Watford when matters starting spiraling away from him, he clearly was less motivated to carry on once our interest became apparent and combine that with the players he currently has here you could see things turning negative and him walking away. Anyway hope i'm wrong and it all works out fine.
Post by: Lxxx on July 29, 2018, 03:45:20 AM
A lot of shouts about Silva not having the players to play his way which may be true but he's not exactly a proven manager yet is he? could yet prove an awful choice, obviously very early days but first impression is he's a bit Koemanez..
Based on?
Post by: brap2 on July 29, 2018, 03:58:02 AM
A lot of drama we've been poor pre season but it's not a relegation team. We'll still be comfortably top half because there's some fucking shite in the Premier league. A few signings and we'll make a decent fist of it.
Two quick truths :
1. Pre season means fuck all
2. We’ve looked this porous and with this lack of control for more than 2 seasons now, and so far in pre season there’s nothing to convince anyone we’ve managed to fix the problems we have.
Post by: Mayor Farnum on July 29, 2018, 04:16:35 AM
Post by: bluenuck on July 29, 2018, 04:18:03 AM
Two quick truths :
1. Pre season means fuck all
2. We’ve looked this porous and with this lack of control for more than 2 seasons now, and so far in pre season there’s nothing to convince anyone we’ve managed to fix the problems we have.
I'd say 3 seasons. And in that time we've had 5 managers.
Post by: Silas on July 29, 2018, 04:49:17 AM
Two quick truths :
1. Pre season means fuck all
2. We’ve looked this porous and with this lack of control for more than 2 seasons now, and so far in pre season there’s nothing to convince anyone we’ve managed to fix the problems we have.
Yeah i agree which essentially means we are set for another season of absolute mediocrity as it stands
Post by: Bluedylan on July 29, 2018, 05:59:42 AM
I'd be inclined to agree with that. That was one of my reservations about Silva.
When Martinez came in he had a well drilled defence amd tinkered with a good squad by injectiing some pace with Deulofeu and Lukaku in what was an already well assembled squad left by Moyes.
No way can Silva come to Everton and tinker with this side and get them playing expansive football.
This is why this job might be too soon for Silva. The characteristics of a manger we need at this moment in time to deal with the bottle merchants we have is not the one I see in Silva. Going by the way Silva left Watford when matters starting spiraling away from him, he clearly was less motivated to carry on once our interest became apparent and combine that with the players he currently has here you could see things turning negative and him walking away. Anyway hope i'm wrong and it all works out fine.
He didn't leave Watford 'when matters started spiraling away from him', as you put it.
'Matters started spiraling away' because he wanted to leave Watford and wanted to come here.
It's an important distinction. Your characterisation would mean that he was a rat deserting a sinking ship, when actually him wanting to get off the ship was what caused it to sink.
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on July 29, 2018, 09:09:32 AM
Based on?Based on he's not proven at all yet that he's any good, wouldn't know what any other conclusion could be based on really, though with the state of the team ability wise, and mind set, he dosen't have an envious task ahead. Just got to hope he's up to it..
Post by: blargins on July 29, 2018, 09:54:16 AM
Post by: bluenuck on July 29, 2018, 10:44:46 AM
A lot of drama we've been poor pre season but it's not a relegation team. We'll still be comfortably top half because there's some fucking shite in the Premier league. A few signings and we'll make a decent fist of it.
I agree.
But I'm tired of thinking everything is okay because there's so much fuckin shite in this league. That's not a good position to be in. It just means we're closer to the shit then the top 6. And it's just a matter of time before we become that shit.
Post by: Ramjam on July 29, 2018, 11:02:08 AM