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Title: Richarlison
Post by: D15TIN on July 20, 2018, 11:33:15 PM
Close to signing according to the Daily Mail - 50 Million.

Not happy if were spending that on him.

EXCLUSIVE: Everton close to signing Richarlison from Watford in a deal worth £50m | @Matt_Barlow_DM https://t.co/GroOXnhj9P https://t.co/Yb9J7pE87C

5 goals 4 assists in 32 appearances.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blue slug on July 20, 2018, 11:33:44 PM
Canít see it for that much
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: pjk on July 20, 2018, 11:34:28 PM
Close to signing according to the Daily Mail - 50 Million.

Not happy if were spending that on him.



Got a link mate? :)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 20, 2018, 11:34:50 PM
Close to signing according to the Daily Mail - 50 Million.

Not happy if were spending that on him.

Thatís an insane price IF we are flogging Lookman for £20m.

Good player, though, and he clearly works well under Silva ( :batty:)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: D15TIN on July 20, 2018, 11:35:43 PM


Got a link mate? :)
soz was using twitter on me phone, bare with me on the work pc ha
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 20, 2018, 11:36:56 PM
If he turns into another Coutinho, we'll easily triple our money.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: D15TIN on July 20, 2018, 11:37:44 PM
EXCLUSIVE: Everton close to signing Richarlison from Watford in a deal worth £50m | @Matt_Barlow_DM https://t.co/GroOXnhj9P https://t.co/Yb9J7pE87C
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 20, 2018, 11:42:56 PM
Bollocks, they were saying 50 million for him and Dacoure last week
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: D15TIN on July 20, 2018, 11:43:04 PM


Got a link mate? :)
EXCLUSIVE: Everton close to signing Richarlison from Watford in a deal worth £50m | @Matt_Barlow_DM https://t.co/GroOXnhj9P https://t.co/Yb9J7pE87C
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Gumpinio on July 20, 2018, 11:43:49 PM
Spunking £50m on a one season wonder would be insane, and Richarlson wasn't even a wonder for most of the season
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Thornton_19 on July 20, 2018, 11:44:39 PM
File this under things which didnt happen.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Evertonian in NC on July 20, 2018, 11:53:30 PM
Fuck's sake, get me my flapper application if it does.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: School of Science on July 20, 2018, 11:54:05 PM
EXCLUSIVE: Everton close to signing Richarlison from Watford in a deal worth £50m | @Matt_Barlow_DM https://t.co/GroOXnhj9P https://t.co/Yb9J7pE87C

£10m for everyone else  :)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 20, 2018, 11:55:42 PM
If he turns into another Coutinho, we'll easily triple our money.

Or pele weíd times our money by 10
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blue slug on July 20, 2018, 11:56:32 PM
£10m for everyone else  :)

Exactly probably turn out to be another bolasie but twice the price
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 20, 2018, 11:58:21 PM
Not scored since November 50m. Lookman goes to Germany does great 20m

Current staff have to live or die by their decisions. Most on here will want to blame allardyce
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blue slug on July 20, 2018, 11:59:35 PM
Seems like nothing is changing just getting shafted on price for mediocre players
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Evertonian in NC on July 20, 2018, 11:59:42 PM
Not scored since November 50m. Lookman goes to Germany does great 20m

Current staff have to live or die by their decisions. Most on here will want to blame allardyce

This would indeed be absurd IF TRUE and I would be on the flapper train.

But it's NOT TRUE yet, just paper talk.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: bluenuck on July 21, 2018, 12:00:44 AM
Just saw 40 million for him on transfer news account.

don't know how to post a tweet. sorry
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 21, 2018, 12:01:19 AM
This would indeed be absurd IF TRUE and I would be on the flapper train.

But it's NOT TRUE yet, just paper talk.

Got to hope it isnít. Be 2 horrible deals in terms of value.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blue slug on July 21, 2018, 12:02:10 AM
Just saw 40 million for him on transfer news account.

don't know how to post a tweet. sorry

Hopefully it will have dropped to 20 by 9pm
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: bluenuck on July 21, 2018, 12:02:54 AM
Big surprise.

Over pricing our own players and under pricing others we're trying to buy.  :P
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: D15TIN on July 21, 2018, 12:03:28 AM
he's only just turned 20, so he has that on his side.

But it makes no sense to spend 50 on this fella, if were struggling to get deals together in the more important areas, CM, CB, LB etc

Surely we could get Marcus rashford for 50-60? Anthony Martial?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lxxx on July 21, 2018, 12:04:54 AM
Can't see Brands going for this, he'd be putting his bollocks on the chopping block in the first month of his new job. If the lad flops he'll be back in Eindhoven by next summer. File it under 'Bollocks' and get back to speculating about Lookman.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Rodenplav64 on July 21, 2018, 12:05:23 AM
Feel sick reading that . I think the ludicrous fees have finally killed off my interest in the Premier League .
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 21, 2018, 12:05:29 AM
It's nonsense, there is no way we would pay anywhere near that much for him
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blue slug on July 21, 2018, 12:06:01 AM
It's nonsense, there is no way we would pay anywhere near that much for him

I thought that about Sigurdsson
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: bluenuck on July 21, 2018, 12:06:13 AM
he's only just turned 20, so he has that on his side.

But it makes no sense to spend 50 on this fella, if were struggling to get deals together in the more important areas, CM, CB, LB etc

Surely we could get Marcus rashford for 50-60? Anthony Martial?

He's 21.

We could probably get thorgan hazard for less than 40 I bet. 11 goals 9 assists in 37 appearances.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Evertonian in NC on July 21, 2018, 12:07:22 AM
I thought that about Sigurdsson

true, but at least Sigurdsson is GOOD
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blue slug on July 21, 2018, 12:07:58 AM
Heís good but not great
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: D15TIN on July 21, 2018, 12:08:20 AM
Mirror saying weve bid 22 for Lucas Digne

Other sources coming out saying it's 40mill for Richarlison (Still double what he's worth)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Thornton_19 on July 21, 2018, 12:10:54 AM
Richarlison stopped playing well when Silva got fired so maybe we can all take solace in that.

(P.s. i cant)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Evertonian in NC on July 21, 2018, 12:11:11 AM
Heís good but not great

I agree with that.  Now we would be slumming to 50m for bang average, which would have me fuming.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blue slug on July 21, 2018, 12:11:15 AM
So we could possibly have Mina, digne and richarlison in
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lxxx on July 21, 2018, 12:12:36 AM
true, but at least Sigurdsson is GOOD

The Sigurdsson fee was ridiculous. Even taking into account spiralling inflation in the game that fee wouldn't look good value in the year 2020. It was £20m over his worth and unless he converts himself into a decent central midfielder in a few years which would extend his career and usefulness it'll still be held up as the shining example of the profligacy of the Walsh years.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Audrey Horne on July 21, 2018, 12:12:46 AM
not arsed on price, would be happy with him here.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 21, 2018, 12:15:56 AM
not arsed on price, would be happy with him here.

Find that sentiment staggering. As a club we have to get value. If lookman is going by your argument we might as well let them have him for nowt
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Audrey Horne on July 21, 2018, 12:17:00 AM
Find that sentiment staggering. As a club we have to get value. If lookman is going by your argument we might as well let them have him for nowt

naaaa. Im just not bothered if we are overpaying a bit for him, he is a good player, prices have rocketed we are always going to pay more than last season due to inflation. Whatever.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: School of Science on July 21, 2018, 12:17:05 AM
not arsed on price, would be happy with him here.

Like him to but would prefer Doucoure as well.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blue slug on July 21, 2018, 12:17:49 AM
Iím not arsed with price if itís for quality but not for decent or one season wonders
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on July 21, 2018, 12:18:45 AM
makes no sense what so ever,   have a feeling everyone is still playing footy manager in the back office 2020 edition
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blue slug on July 21, 2018, 12:20:35 AM
makes no sense what so ever,   have a feeling everyone is still playing footy manager in the back office 2020 edition

I signed Malcom for 40m then sold him 5 years later for 120m to Paris lol
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Martip on July 21, 2018, 12:21:50 AM
If the price is anywhere near those quoted we should make our excuses and leave.  :headbang:
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Mayor Farnum on July 21, 2018, 12:27:49 AM
If we pay that we've either got more money than any of us ever imagined or we're the easiest touch in world football.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on July 21, 2018, 12:29:22 AM
Good player
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blue slug on July 21, 2018, 12:29:49 AM
Apparently medical is on for him now some bleacher reporter journalist on Twitter
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: D15TIN on July 21, 2018, 12:35:30 AM
If we pay that we've either got more money than any of us ever imagined or we're the easiest touch in world football.
I don't have much concern regarding the new stadium if we can throw 50mill for players like Richarlison
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Cozzie on July 21, 2018, 12:36:37 AM
50M way over the top.

But we are doing business with Watford here, so what do you expect.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Trowel on July 21, 2018, 12:36:50 AM
Fee is crazy, but he was very good for a very short period of time under Silva, and we can surround him with better players.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Audrey Horne on July 21, 2018, 12:37:10 AM
probably some sort of compensation for Silva included there haha
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Waltzer on July 21, 2018, 12:37:26 AM
As glad as I an were moving on players I sometimes wish we took a leaf out of spurs book instead of QPR! 50 million is insane for him
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Martip on July 21, 2018, 12:39:00 AM
Just checked the stats 38 games 8n the prem, 5 goals and 4 assists. No upgrade on what we have.....looked good for a few games then bang average.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: dunkster on July 21, 2018, 12:41:28 AM
That's a crazy price hike for 5 goals
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Mayor Farnum on July 21, 2018, 12:42:21 AM
50M way over the top.

But we are doing business with Watford here, so what do you expect.

Us to walk away.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 21, 2018, 12:43:44 AM
1/10 with skybet

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: dunkster on July 21, 2018, 12:47:17 AM
Didn't watch much of him..is he one of the wider attacking front three types?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Mayor Farnum on July 21, 2018, 12:48:08 AM
This is Keane all over again. Over-paying for a player that no-one else is interested in.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: howard1334 on July 21, 2018, 12:48:26 AM
Didn't watch much of him..is he one of the wider attacking front three types?

I think so. Direct, pacy, and fairly strong on the ball. Has some dribbling ability.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: dunkster on July 21, 2018, 12:48:48 AM
Thought Keane had a choice of us or United?..apparently
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: D15TIN on July 21, 2018, 12:49:13 AM
I think so. Very direct, pacy, and strong. Has some dribbling ability.
#WelcomeBolasie
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Audrey Horne on July 21, 2018, 12:50:12 AM
https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/1020365014476247040
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ross on July 21, 2018, 12:50:22 AM
As an replacement to Bolasie Iíd be happy to see him come in for a sensible fee, just hope itís not as a replacement for Lookman especially for the prices quoted.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 21, 2018, 12:51:09 AM
https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/1020365014476247040

Holy fuck!!

Watford press reporting the same now
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 21, 2018, 12:52:20 AM
https://twitter.com/prenno/status/1020365464092971009
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 21, 2018, 12:52:41 AM
Really like Richarlison, mad fee, though, particularly if Lookman goes for £20m.

Can only assume if we go for 25 year-old Digne instead of Tierney that we expect Robinson to be as good as if not better than Tierney in due course.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Waltzer on July 21, 2018, 12:53:18 AM
The only way this fee seems reasonable if its a maximum of 30 million with the remainder of the 20 million coming when we win the champions league this year
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 21, 2018, 12:54:59 AM
Redshite all over the Joyce tweet again, have a day off for fuck sake
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 21, 2018, 12:56:00 AM
Jesus fucking Christ.

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 21, 2018, 12:56:31 AM
probably some sort of compensation for Silva included there haha

Gotta be.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 21, 2018, 12:56:39 AM
On sky as well now
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blue slug on July 21, 2018, 12:57:54 AM
Just saw Jim White will be on his phone to moshiri
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 21, 2018, 12:58:11 AM
On sky as well now

So was Malcolm 😔

Jesus, Iím so negative these days
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Brownie on July 21, 2018, 12:58:19 AM
Echo actually reporting it. Must be true
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: howard1334 on July 21, 2018, 12:58:42 AM
#WelcomeBolasie

Don't know if that is an entirely fair characterization, haha. At least I hope so. Think he has the potential to have much more of an end product than Bolasie. His dribbling seems to actually take him places -- unlike Bolasie's -- and he appears to be a bit more of an aerial threat. Not sure 50m is worth it though. Holy shit.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: bluenuck on July 21, 2018, 12:59:10 AM
probably some sort of compensation for Silva included there haha

I'm sure it's a "payback" sort of compensation.

Like Roma fleecing the shite on Allsion for getting nothing for Salah.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 21, 2018, 12:59:28 AM
https://twitter.com/ALANMYERSMEDIA/status/1020366947253477376
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: bluenuck on July 21, 2018, 12:59:38 AM
Echo actually reporting it. Must be true

It's everywhere now. All sources on it.

Seems like a go...
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Morta75 on July 21, 2018, 01:00:55 AM
Holy shit... hope this fee is wrong...
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Waltzer on July 21, 2018, 01:01:25 AM
Redshite all over the Joyce tweet again, have a day off for fuck sake
Tbh so would I if it was the other way around
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: GLewis on July 21, 2018, 01:03:53 AM
Think his potential is really high.

Physical qualities as well as with the ball.

Fee massive but the right age (unlike say for Sig).

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Brownie on July 21, 2018, 01:03:59 AM
Looking at the stats before and after Silva left Watford it's like two completely different players
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blueToffee on July 21, 2018, 01:04:28 AM
Really like Richarlison, mad fee, though, particularly if Lookman goes for £20m.

Can only assume if we go for 25 year-old Digne instead of Tierney that we expect Robinson to be as good as if not better than Tierney in due course.

25 years old is still pretty young in footballing terms.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Thornton_19 on July 21, 2018, 01:07:29 AM
Genuinely cannot believe the Richarlison stuff isnt bollocks
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 21, 2018, 01:08:01 AM
25 years old is still pretty young in footballing terms.

Yeah agreed, but (projecting ahead 5 years plus here) when Robinson is 25/26 Digne will be 30/31 by then.

Of course, we probably wonít sign Digne, and if we do Robinson will likely be off anyway, so itís all academic ;)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Martip on July 21, 2018, 01:09:13 AM
It's a weird one. Been waiting ages for big signing and can't help but feel massively disappointed by it if we land him.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 21, 2018, 01:09:16 AM
Tbh so would I if it was the other way around

Don't mean about the fee and that, they're having a go at Joyce because he dared to tweet a transfer story that doesn't involve them
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: bluenuck on July 21, 2018, 01:09:16 AM
Genuinely cannot believe the Richarlison stuff isnt bollocks

haha, have another one, big Joe.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: colin on July 21, 2018, 01:13:27 AM
This feels like a signing we'd make last summer.  I hope I'm wrong though
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: howard1334 on July 21, 2018, 01:14:07 AM
Nice video profile on Richarlison. http://www.espn.com/soccer/soccer-transfers/story/3570491/everton-set-to-land-richarlison-from-watford-in-40m-deal-sources
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on July 21, 2018, 01:14:39 AM
This is fucking terrible, buying average players and getting whacked to pay stupid fees. It's moronic.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blueToffee on July 21, 2018, 01:17:12 AM
Yeah, this one seems like its happening doesn't it.

Was really expecting a more obscure/continental signing with Brands (as in we'd be signing the likes of Richarlison before he came to Watford) yet it weirdly seems like another manager pick given Silva's recent history with that PL experience price tag to boot. Although Brands' speciality is the South American market isn't it? So I have to assume he knows plenty about the player too.

Perhaps it's the reality of us not being able to attract the likes of Lozano, etc? The age is right though. I must admit he didn't super catch my attention last year, perhaps I missed that early Watford golden period of the season.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Brownie on July 21, 2018, 01:17:46 AM
Just read that, because he came over just as the Brazilian season finished straight into a PL season there was always likely to be the case that he'd fade away especially being so young
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Martip on July 21, 2018, 01:18:05 AM
Surely Zaha would be a better value buy for a bit more ? Proper threat.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Alanvideo on July 21, 2018, 01:18:26 AM
probably some sort of compensation for Silva included there haha
........................they're taking Jack Rodwell off the market too ,otherwise you know he'd end up at Finch Farm  ::)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blue slug on July 21, 2018, 01:18:42 AM
They were talking 70m for Zaha though
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 21, 2018, 01:19:48 AM
Iím willing to back silva on this one.

Itís certainly a lot better than spending this money on a 28 year old.

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: van der Meyde on July 21, 2018, 01:20:19 AM
Not sure how I feel about this.

Good player, but have the feeling like we're effectively going to be trading Lookman and £30m for him...
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 21, 2018, 01:21:32 AM
This makes sense

https://twitter.com/TheRobVera/status/1020368121641697282
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lxxx on July 21, 2018, 01:22:12 AM
Totally uninspiring signing. It's like we've just bought the new Panini football album and taken the same approach as the last regime. I didn't see anything last season that would in any way justify this type of fee.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 21, 2018, 01:22:35 AM
This makes sense

https://twitter.com/TheRobVera/status/1020368121641697282

Exactly. We were prepared to pay almost 20 million for Silva alone.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Martip on July 21, 2018, 01:22:45 AM
They were talking 70m for Zaha though
Bolasie plus 50 ?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Sixx1402 on July 21, 2018, 01:22:55 AM
Fucking furious if that fee is true. We'll be a laughing stock AGAIN

Plays good for 1/3 of a season and £50 million?!

People saying he played good under Silva, if he's worth £50 million he would have been good for the rest of the season regardless of the manager.

They get shaqiri for £13 million and we pay £50 mill for a player who is worth £25 mill at best?!

Please tell me I'm in a nightmare, fucking ridiculous
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Mayor Farnum on July 21, 2018, 01:23:12 AM
Looking at the stats before and after Silva left Watford it's like two completely different players

Plenty of overseas players have looked fantastic for three months then disappeared.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: howard1334 on July 21, 2018, 01:23:13 AM
This is fucking terrible, buying average players and getting whacked to pay stupid fees. It's moronic.

Not sure he is just an average player. Seems to really have the potential to be good. If this were 25m-30m I would be all for it.

But agree re: stupid fees. Can't go paying 50m for a player that cost only 11m when they get only five goals and four assists over the course of an entire season. Madness. Especially when Lookman just got nearly the same end product in Germany over the course of like 1/4th of the total minutes.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blueToffee on July 21, 2018, 01:23:32 AM
This makes sense

https://twitter.com/TheRobVera/status/1020368121641697282

Yep. You could see that happening, in which case I hope it's an undisclosed fee.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: colin on July 21, 2018, 01:23:55 AM
This makes sense

https://twitter.com/TheRobVera/status/1020368121641697282

I still don't get why they even feel they're owed money because we 'unsettled' him? Where's our compensation for every one of our players that were unsettled before eventually moving?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 21, 2018, 01:24:01 AM
Totally uninspiring signing. It's like we've just bought the new Panini football album and taken the same approach as the last regime. I didn't see anything last season that would in any way justify this type of fee.

Really?

He looked absolute dynamite at the start of Silvaís reign.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 21, 2018, 01:25:00 AM
Silva wants him, that's good enough for me
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lxxx on July 21, 2018, 01:25:10 AM
Really?

He looked absolute dynamite at the start of Silvaís reign.

A few fleeting glimpses for half a dozen games and then disappeared without a trace for the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blue slug on July 21, 2018, 01:25:42 AM
Fee is excessive but got to back silva
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blueToffee on July 21, 2018, 01:26:07 AM
Silva wants him, that's good enough for me

Not sure that policy worked out so great under the last management team.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheTone on July 21, 2018, 01:26:25 AM
Great investment this, good age and bags of potential
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 21, 2018, 01:27:11 AM
Silva has seen more of him than any of us have, it's no coincidence that his form dipped when he was said sacked, I'm pleased with this
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: dunkster on July 21, 2018, 01:27:31 AM
Yeah an undisclosed fee but with both clubs suggesting compensation for silva is part if it.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blue slug on July 21, 2018, 01:27:32 AM
Thatís better tone a bit of optimism
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Martip on July 21, 2018, 01:27:57 AM
Fee is excessive but got to back silva
Totally agree with backing Silva but I'd take some comfort in knowing someone in the club had a sense of a players true market value every now and again.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 21, 2018, 01:28:47 AM
Not sure that policy worked out so great under the last management team.


This is different, Silva signed him for Watford and worked with him for 6 months, he knows what sort of player he is and what he will bring to the yeam
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lxxx on July 21, 2018, 01:29:24 AM
I suppose if we bin Lookman off for about £20m+ and get Bolasie off the wage bill with a loan fee it won't look too bad all things considered. Although you'd like to think Brands' role is to find the next Richarlison before they get to England, instead of paying an over-inflated price once someone else has done the grunt work. 
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: piggypop on July 21, 2018, 01:30:14 AM
Just read that, because he came over just as the Brazilian season finished straight into a PL season there was always likely to be the case that he'd fade away especially being so young
And I think before that he'd been playing for Brazilian youth teams in the close season too, so he'd not had a proper break for a couple of years. No wonder he ran out of steam second half of the season.

I thought he looked a great prospect at the start of last season. Pace, power and youth.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: bluenuck on July 21, 2018, 01:32:27 AM
We need to chill on the fee.

There's obviously Silva compensation money in there.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blueToffee on July 21, 2018, 01:32:33 AM
I think the general profile of the player is good, and perhaps the shortened window plays into it forcing our hand to get in players but I'd kinda hope under this regime we'll be more in the business of buying this type of player before they get their PL move.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: toshyboy on July 21, 2018, 01:32:41 AM
The fee will be getting sensationalised. Will probably be £30-35m guaranteed with the rest in add ons
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Mayor Farnum on July 21, 2018, 01:32:49 AM
Silva has seen more of him than any of us have, it's no coincidence that his form dipped when he was said sacked, I'm pleased with this

Trying to link his dip in form with Silva's departure is desperate.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: bluenuck on July 21, 2018, 01:33:10 AM
I suppose if we bin Lookman off for about £20m+ and get Bolasie off the wage bill with a loan fee it won't look too bad all things considered. Although you'd like to think Brands' role is to find the next Richarlison before they get to England, instead of paying an over-inflated price once someone else has done the grunt work.

Isn't lookman just that??
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 21, 2018, 01:35:10 AM
Trying to link his dip in form with Silva's departure is desperate.

But reasonable.

Lets get Danny wellbeck though aye.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Evertonian in NC on July 21, 2018, 01:35:46 AM
Did we learn the arbitrator was gonna be a Redshite or sommet?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Mayor Farnum on July 21, 2018, 01:36:45 AM
But reasonable.

Lets get Danny wellbeck though aye.

15mill for Wellbeck makes miles more sense than 50mill for a 15 game wonder.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheTone on July 21, 2018, 01:37:36 AM
Will be fuming if someone calls him Ricky though
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Evertonian in NC on July 21, 2018, 01:37:46 AM
15mill for Wellbeck makes miles more sense than 50mill for a 15 game wonder.

I'd rather none of the above, thanks.  What happened to outside the box thinking?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 21, 2018, 01:37:56 AM
A few fleeting glimpses for half a dozen games and then disappeared without a trace for the rest of the season.

Nah, you clearly didnít watch him.

He was a constant menace in all the matches I watched him in when Silva was in charge.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Trowel on July 21, 2018, 01:38:30 AM
Beeb on it. This is happening.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44907306
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 21, 2018, 01:38:40 AM
Trying to link his dip in form with Silva's departure is desperate.

In what way, it was widely reported that
a number of Watford players downed tools when he left
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Mayor Farnum on July 21, 2018, 01:39:44 AM
Nah, you clearly didnít watch him.

He was a constant menace in all the matches I watched him in when Silva was in charge.

Must have been only you and Everton watching because it seems no-one else is interested in him for 50 mill.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 21, 2018, 01:39:59 AM


This is different, Silva signed him for Watford and worked with him for 6 months, he knows what sort of player he is and what he will bring to the yeam

Like koeman with Morgan?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 21, 2018, 01:40:11 AM
Will be fuming if someone calls him Ricky though

Go ed Ricky lad
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Waltzer on July 21, 2018, 01:41:15 AM
Don't mean about the fee and that, they're having a go at Joyce because he dared to tweet a transfer story that doesn't involve them
Ah, okay.  I looked at some and there seemed to be lots of laughter about the fees were paying
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Mayor Farnum on July 21, 2018, 01:41:26 AM
In what way, it was widely reported that
a number of Watford players downed tools when he left

In that you are trying to find an excuse for another ridiculous fee to be paid by Everton.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 21, 2018, 01:41:54 AM
Like koeman with Morgan?

Yes, Morgan was superb when he first signed, no denying that, then when things turned sour lost his bottle
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lxxx on July 21, 2018, 01:43:06 AM
Isn't lookman just that??

He might well turn out to be, however itís looking more and more like he doesnít want to be here.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 21, 2018, 01:44:07 AM
In that you are trying to find an excuse for another ridiculous fee to be paid by Everton.

No at all, the alleged fee is ridiculous, I very much doubt it's as much as what's being reported, will be based on add-ons etc..
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Audrey Horne on July 21, 2018, 01:45:01 AM
15mill for Wellbeck makes miles more sense than 50mill for a 15 game wonder.

(https://i.giphy.com/media/l3q2K5jinAlChoCLS/giphy.webp)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: bluenuck on July 21, 2018, 01:45:35 AM
He might well turn out to be, however itís looking more and more like he doesnít want to be here.

....Unfortunately.

Would love him to stay and Bolasie leave. Lookman and Richarlison as our wingers with Walcott would be pretty cool. At least promising.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 21, 2018, 01:46:07 AM
Must have been only you and Everton watching because it seems no-one else is interested in him for 50 mill.

Ah well.

Great post as usual btw 👍🏼

Are you ever satisfied by anything, or are you in a perpetual state of tedious disagreeableness?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Brownie on July 21, 2018, 01:46:17 AM
15mill for Wellbeck makes miles more sense than 50mill for a 15 game wonder.

Danny 'fit for three games a season' Wellbeck? Go sit in the corner and think about what you've said.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 21, 2018, 01:46:18 AM
Iím happy. Very good player right now. Hits the ground running. Potential to be brilliant.

Fuck the fee, itís all Monopoly money nowadays anyway.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lxxx on July 21, 2018, 01:46:32 AM
....Unfortunately.

Would love him to stay and Bolasie leave. Lookman and Richarlison as our wingers with Walcott would be pretty cool. At least promising.

Agreed
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: colin on July 21, 2018, 01:47:17 AM
Will be fuming if someone calls him Ricky though

How about Charlie?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lxxx on July 21, 2018, 01:47:59 AM
15mill for Wellbeck makes miles more sense than 50mill for a 15 game wonder.

In truth none of those deals look like good value.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: howard1334 on July 21, 2018, 01:48:11 AM
....Unfortunately.

Would love him to stay and Bolasie leave. Lookman and Richarlison as our wingers with Walcott would be pretty cool. At least promising.

Yeah, a rotation of Lookman, Richarlison, Walcott, and Sig as the three behind the striker would be pretty great.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: dunkster on July 21, 2018, 01:48:19 AM
Guess we have to trust in the manager we've hired
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 21, 2018, 01:48:42 AM
Ah, okay.  I looked at some and there seemed to be lots of laughter about the fees were paying

I dunno, £67m on a Brazilian keeper that they recently stuck a ton of goals past is also fairly amusing
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Martip on July 21, 2018, 01:49:59 AM
I dunno, £67m on a Brazilian keeper that they recently stuck a ton of goals past is also fairly amusing
That buy looks value against 50m for Richard.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 21, 2018, 01:50:14 AM
Danny 'fit for three games a season' Wellbeck? Go sit in the corner and think about what you've said.

Just laughed me head off in the boozer at this, no idea why
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 21, 2018, 01:50:45 AM
That buy looks value against 50m for Richard.

Does it?

And who is this Richard you speak of?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ross on July 21, 2018, 01:51:42 AM
We need to chill on the fee.

There's obviously Silva compensation money in there.

Surely Watford would just rather have the compensation and keep the player? Heís either worth the valuation or not really. 

Also I donít think Brands will want to be seen mopping up previous mistakes by putting his own neck on the line with such a massive fee.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Alanvideo on July 21, 2018, 01:52:34 AM
I’m happy. Very good player right now. Hits the ground running. Potential to be brilliant.

Fuck the fee, it’s all Monopoly money nowadays anyway.
...................dead right. I just look at the player ,he's a good footballer .Let the accountants take care of the finances . Monopoly money is right.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Paddockoldie on July 21, 2018, 01:53:53 AM
How about Charlie?

Would fit right in with our history of beak lovers.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 21, 2018, 01:55:26 AM
Anyone else get the feeling this is just the start of what is gonna be a mad week for us?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 21, 2018, 01:56:16 AM
Anyone else get the feeling this is just the start of what is gonna be a mad week for us?

Mad good, I hope 🤞🏼
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: GLewis on July 21, 2018, 01:57:21 AM
...................dead right. I just look at the player ,he's a good footballer .Let the accountants take care of the finances . Monopoly money is right.

Got no problem with looking at value for money and people commenting on that.

What people have to remember is where the market is.

The record fee is 4 times this amount - whereas a couple of years ago it would have seemed impossible to make any profit on a fee like that.

Whereas now Madrid can make a profit on a 33 yo they bought 9 years ago.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: gizzblue on July 21, 2018, 01:57:53 AM
Not being the Everton accounts manager I could give a flying fuck how much he cost tbh ....

Man u paid 90 mil last season for a fella that went missing in the biggest game of his career in the world cup..and Eden Hazard is valued at 176 mil .

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 21, 2018, 01:58:41 AM
Everton are believed to be willing to pay around £35m for he player which could eventually rise to £50m
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blueToffee on July 21, 2018, 01:59:48 AM
Everton are believed to be willing to pay around £35m for he player which could eventually rise to £50m

That's pretty reasonable.

Especially if we're accounting for some Silva smoothing over money in there too.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Martip on July 21, 2018, 02:00:24 AM
Everton are believed to be willing to pay around £35m for he player which could eventually rise to £50m
£35m straight off the bat doesn't feel like such abuse. Still a lot for him.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Confucius on July 21, 2018, 02:02:54 AM
He is Brazilian and has one name. Money doesn't matter after that.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 21, 2018, 02:04:19 AM
I don’t see it myself, but what I would say is he actually underperformed his xg last year. Typically in one season wonder purple patch types you see them over perform and score a load of jammy goals so where they would maybe be expected to score 8 they score like 16 or whatever.

This says he shoots a lot and gets into positions to shoot a lot which is really good. Depends on the team making his chances and tactics (Marco ) and if someone always undershoots then it might mean they have a bad finish? But I think if you don’t think about the dough he’d be a good player to have.

I’d like to keep Lookman AND get this guy, but just saying, might not be the waste it feels atm.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheTone on July 21, 2018, 02:05:37 AM
All flights on Air Flappers cancelled for now
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 21, 2018, 02:06:56 AM
Already this has twice as many replies than Welbeck.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 21, 2018, 02:08:28 AM
Got no problem with looking at value for money and people commenting on that.

What people have to remember is where the market is.

The record fee is 4 times this amount - whereas a couple of years ago it would have seemed impossible to make any profit on a fee like that.

Whereas now Madrid can make a profit on a 33 yo they bought 9 years ago.

Said this the other day but the inflation on attackers in football has gone absolutely through the roof and is surely the fastest growing commodity in the world.

I’m being genuine when I say, if you signed him for £50m this year, and he scored anywhere near 10 prem goals this coming year, you would make a profit the year after.

Said at the time United were getting quite a good deal on Lukaku..
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ross on July 21, 2018, 02:08:51 AM
I donít see it myself, but what I would say is he actually underperformed his xg last year. Typically in one season wonder purple patch types you see them over perform and score a load of jammy goals so where they would maybe be expected to score 8 they score like 16 or whatever.

This says he shoots a lot and gets into positions to shoot a lot which is really good. Depends on the team making his chances and tactics (Marco ) and if someone always undershoots then it might mean they have a bad finish? But I think if you donít think about the dough heíd be a good player to have.

Iíd like to keep Lookman AND get this guy, but just saying, might not be the waste it feels atm.

Got lucky with a few finishes last season looking at his YouTube highlights. But his goal record in Brazil seems good.

Got to trust Silva on this I suppose.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Goaljira on July 21, 2018, 02:09:26 AM
Some of you will cry about fucking anything.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Waltzer on July 21, 2018, 02:13:25 AM
Removing the price tag he makes us better than we were, so I'm all in.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 21, 2018, 02:14:30 AM
Got lucky with a few finishes last season looking at his YouTube highlights. But his goal record in Brazil seems good.

Got to trust Silva on this I suppose.

Thatís what xg is for. Eye can fail you a bit, if you take a large data set and find the average you can be reasonably confident on how jammy or easy something really is.

He maybe got quite lucky with some finishes, but in terms of players in the league who are playing in his position and trying to score goals - he actually got unlucky with more.

The mad thing is that the best players in the world consistently out perform their xg, because they are so good that they make more out of their service than they should. Means the better service you gave messi, Ronaldo they would just keep scoring more goals.

As a final point - Lookman outperforms his xg. Doesnít mean anything at this point. But I think a very data-led person would say if he keeps getting shots he will potentially give you a richarlison level season. Top end being a Mane or Salah season.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on July 21, 2018, 02:17:08 AM
Apologies if this has been said already, canít be arsed trawling over the previous 9 pages. I heard something like heís played non-stop (including every summer) since he became a pro, in 2015. He became a starter for his Mineiro team, then due to the scheduling of Brazil youth games, the Libertadores tournament he played in the off-season and then coming over to the premier league, our season starting soon after the Brazilian one had finished. Hence, he was well and truly fucked, the 2nd half of last season. And heís still growing and getting used to a faster paced league.

I think heíll be fucking great for us!
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 21, 2018, 02:26:40 AM
Some of you will cry about fucking anything.

Hormones mate.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on July 21, 2018, 02:26:47 AM
Very happy with the player. Very high ceiling.

Whatever the fee turns out to be, so be it.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 21, 2018, 02:30:27 AM
All flights on Air Flappers cancelled for now

Delayed, not cancelled
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: American Evertonian on July 21, 2018, 02:36:12 AM
Very happy with the player. Very high ceiling.

Whatever the fee turns out to be, so be it.

If we think he can help us crack into the top 6 then I don't care the fee.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: dekko on July 21, 2018, 02:36:37 AM
The guy has so much potential, a couple of good seasons with us and we could double the money.
I hope heís just Bolaiseís replacement, and that we keep Lookman.

Could we not get Couture as well? Part exchange with Schneiderlin? Send them Klaassen and Bolasie as well!!
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 21, 2018, 02:41:05 AM
How would people be feeling if it was one of the big boys buying him? Seems many feel we missed the boat on Malcom and yet Richarlison is probably a similar level with prem experience too.

And now we know he's been playing so much, it explains the dip in form after Silva left.

This is the type of signing we need to be making. A blend of youth with prem experience, pace, skill and the ability to sell on in a few years time for a tidy profit.

Seems you can't please anyone. Complaints if we do this, complaints if we do that. I just want to see a damned exciting Everton team for once.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: colin on July 21, 2018, 02:43:32 AM
The guy has so much potential, a couple of good seasons with us and we could double the money.
I hope heís just Bolaiseís replacement, and that we keep Lookman.

Could we not get Couture as well? Part exchange with Schneiderlin? Send them Klaassen and Bolasie as well!!

Would we though? That's assuming prices keep rising at crazy rates, surely that will start to slow down.  But if 60m gets mahrez, paying 50m just for potential seems crazy.  Even if he does end up being good I can't see us ever making a profit on this or even break even. If he can consistently create/score goals though he'll be worth it even if we never make back the money
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on July 21, 2018, 02:44:23 AM
Really pleased with this. As Bluedylan said, really high ceiling and all the attributes to be an absolute beast. Also in the bracket of the Ďbest player available, that would be willing to come hereí. We certainly wouldnít have been surprised if Richarlison went to Chelsea for £50m.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 21, 2018, 02:46:27 AM
Really pleased with this. As Bluedylan said, really high ceiling and all the attributes to be an absolute beast. Also in the bracket of the Ďbest player available, that would be willing to come hereí. We certainly wouldnít have been surprised if Richarlison went to Chelsea for £50m.

Itís not even 50mil as well.

A lot will be performance based add ons and a little sweetener from ourselves regarding the pursuit of silva.

Itíll be 30mil by my reckoning and considering the potential here itís a very good signing.

Iím excited. Just hope this doesnít mean lookman is off.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: mikey_blue on July 21, 2018, 02:46:34 AM
How about Charlie?

Iíll wait for the official announcement before I break out the lines. You crack on though.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on July 21, 2018, 02:47:35 AM
Would we though? That's assuming prices keep rising at crazy rates, surely that will start to slow down.  But if 60m gets mahrez, paying 50m just for potential seems crazy.  Even if he does end up being good I can't see us ever making a profit on this or even break even. If he can consistently create/score goals though he'll be worth it even if we never make back the money

Sounds like itís £35m with add ons. Given the market, is that so outrageous for a very highly rated 21 year old, Brazilian, one-named winger? Not forgetting the Watford hate us premium.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Goaljira on July 21, 2018, 02:51:35 AM
Itís not even 50mil as well.

A lot will be performance based add ons and a little sweetener from ourselves regarding the pursuit of silva.

Itíll be 30mil by my reckoning and considering the potential here itís a very good signing.

Iím excited. Just hope this doesnít mean lookman is off.

In a little merry-go-round type way, we'll have given them Cleverley, Deulofeu and £15m rising to £30m, and we've got Richarlison and a manager we were willing to pay £15m for in November.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ell Capitan on July 21, 2018, 02:56:26 AM
Probably straight off be our best player.

Canít really see why people would complain.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Martip on July 21, 2018, 02:58:09 AM
Removing the price tag he makes us better than we were, so I'm all in.
I'm not sure he makes our starting 11 any better if I'm honest.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 21, 2018, 02:58:39 AM
I'm not sure he makes our starting 11 any better if I'm honest.

Come on now.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Goaljira on July 21, 2018, 02:59:35 AM
I'm not sure he makes our starting 11 any better if I'm honest.

Seriously lad, you've got negativity issues.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Martip on July 21, 2018, 03:00:06 AM
Come on now.
Is he any better than Lookman ?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Audrey Horne on July 21, 2018, 03:00:43 AM
I'm not sure he makes our starting 11 any better if I'm honest.

you having a fucking laugh?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 21, 2018, 03:00:44 AM
I'm not sure he makes our starting 11 any better if I'm honest.

What?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Martip on July 21, 2018, 03:01:34 AM
Seriously lad, you've got negativity issues.
Why because I'm not sure he's an upgrade on Lookman ? I think it's a fair question .....
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 21, 2018, 03:03:12 AM
Is he any better than Lookman ?

He is for me.

Lookman has struggled in the premier league.

Richarlison took no time at all to adapt and perform.

Lookman is on his way unfortunately so heís probably just replacing him.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Risky on July 21, 2018, 03:04:36 AM
As others have already said, this is a player with tremendous potential.  If we're talking £35-40m with add ons then it's definitely a gamble worth taking I think, especially given Silva's inside track on him.

Would be happy with this for sure, even more so if we bring it a couple more quality additions as well.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Goaljira on July 21, 2018, 03:05:09 AM
Why because I'm not sure he's an upgrade on Lookman ? I think it's a fair question .....

He is, but even if he wasn't then Lookman would have to still be at the club to be in our first xi, which by whats going on doesnt look like being the case.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Martip on July 21, 2018, 03:08:18 AM
He is for me.

Lookman has struggled in the premier league.

Richarlison took no time at all to adapt and perform.

Lookman is on his way unfortunately so heís probably just replacing him.
I hope you are right. Honestly if lookman played 38 games I'd expect to  at least match the 5 goals/4 assists....It's Not outstanding imo and I can't see hes worth the extra money to our starting 11.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on July 21, 2018, 03:08:21 AM
Gobsmacked Watford dealt with us. Brands really is a charming fucker, ainít he?!
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 21, 2018, 03:08:58 AM
https://twitter.com/ready1878/status/1020385322159493121
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Martip on July 21, 2018, 03:12:37 AM
He is, but even if he wasn't then Lookman would have to still be at the club to be in our first xi, which by whats going on doesnt look like being the case.
He is under contract so the ball is in our court...If we want to keep him we should and manage his disappointment if necessary.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Redartin on July 21, 2018, 03:12:59 AM
Flappers Misers v Captain Sensibles Spendthrifts.

The latest nsno battle lines have been drawn.

Fixed it.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lxxx on July 21, 2018, 03:14:50 AM
I'm not sure he makes our starting 11 any better if I'm honest.

We ended the season with Bolasie strolling around the left hand side of the pitch rolling his foot over the ball two dozen times.

Compared to that my nan would improve us so a young pacey Brazilian lad gets a yes from me.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Martip on July 21, 2018, 03:16:07 AM
We ended the season with Bolasie strolling around the left hand side of the pitch rolling his foot over the ball two dozen times.

Compared to that my nan would improve us so a young pacey Brazilian lad gets a yes from me.
Agreed. Do you think he's any better than Lookman however ?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lxxx on July 21, 2018, 03:17:22 AM
Agreed. Do you think he's any better than Lookman however ?

Weíll never know by the looks of it. But if Lookman wants to go then we have no option but to try and replace him. 
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: GLewis on July 21, 2018, 03:18:59 AM
Agreed. Do you think he's any better than Lookman however ?

Weíre obviously talking about potential for both of them here but Iíd say Richarlison is both bigger and quicker than Lookman.

Over time that provides a better safety net for drops off in form.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Waltzer on July 21, 2018, 03:19:19 AM
Gobsmacked Watford dealt with us. Brands really is a charming fucker, ain't he?!
At these prices I bet they'd be happy to deal with us for every transfer,  they could probably sell us cleverly back for 20 million
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 21, 2018, 03:19:26 AM
I hope you are right. Honestly if lookman played 38 games I'd expect to  at least match the 5 goals/4 assists....It's Not outstanding imo and I can't see hes worth the extra money to our starting 11.

And has been mentioned several times, he had been playing pretty much non stop for well over a year. Of course his form dipped in the second half of the season.

He's young as well. Let's get behind this if it comes off. Been waiting to see some flair at Everton for ages.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Martip on July 21, 2018, 03:23:48 AM
And has been mentioned several times, he had been playing pretty much non stop for well over a year. Of course his form dipped in the second half of the season.

He's young as well. Let's get behind this if it comes off. Been waiting to see some flair at Everton for ages.
Fair point but for me at the premium we d be paying we shouldn't be making excuses.

Personally from what I've seen of be trying to convince Lookman his future lies at Everton.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 21, 2018, 03:29:18 AM
Fair point but for me at the premium we d be paying we shouldn't be making excuses.

Personally from what I've seen of be trying to convince Lookman his future lies at Everton.

Exactly. We are paying a premium and yet having to defend his shitty record. Surely the shitty record is why you get yourself a bargain? Watford paid 11m. He was good for a third of the season and now he's worth 40 plus?

Be nice to find 1 or 2 to go with these expensive buys. Think if lookman stays people will be much more comfortable with this deal too
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 21, 2018, 03:29:59 AM
50m is a bit steep like
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Evertonian in NC on July 21, 2018, 03:35:04 AM
If Lookman stays, then I can deal with it.  If we sell Mola cheaply, and buy high on this guy (who I like less), I will be itchy.  And hope to be wrong.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Audrey Horne on July 21, 2018, 03:35:04 AM
50m is a bit steep like

But it will be 50m IF he performs a certain way, its UP TO 50....
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 21, 2018, 03:37:44 AM
This thread mate lolol
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: School of Science on July 21, 2018, 03:38:46 AM
If Lookman stays, then I can deal with it.  If we sell Mola cheaply, and buy high on this guy (who I like less), I will be itchy.  And hope to be wrong.

Isn't £35m plus add ons ? And as much as I like Lookman, Richarlson is a better all rounded player and apparently only 5  months older than Mola.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 21, 2018, 03:44:40 AM
50m is a bit steep like

Would include the money owed for Silva too as well as add ons etc.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lxxx on July 21, 2018, 03:47:51 AM
£20m+ for Lookman and £10m for Mori pays for £35m+ for Richarlison. On that basis, itís a bit of a no brainer.

Neither of the former have really contributed anything to Everton and the upside to the latter is pretty exciting.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: School of Science on July 21, 2018, 03:53:35 AM
All for this, lads got plenty of potential, big, fast and a Brazilian to boot. He tailed off after Silva left the second half of the season, but apparently had played a full year right through for Fluminese and Watford. Very young, Silva knows what he's buying and will get better. Amazed Watford are dealing with us.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: stirlingblue on July 21, 2018, 03:58:46 AM
I know itís not about the fee, itís about who is willing to come to us.

That being said, the rest of the league will be laughing at us for this
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ramjam on July 21, 2018, 04:02:40 AM
I know it's not about the fee, it's about who is willing to come to us.

That being said, the rest of the league will be laughing at us for this
Not if he starts tearing teams apart from day one they wonít
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: stirlingblue on July 21, 2018, 04:08:13 AM
Not if he starts tearing teams apart from day one they won't

Iím by no means writing him off, he clearly has potential.

What do you think the chances are of him Ďtearing apartí teams from day one?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Tinga on July 21, 2018, 04:09:22 AM
But it will be 50m IF he performs a certain way, its UP TO 50....

Yeah I think people imagine we are giving them 50m straight away but even we're not that mismanaged..
Title: Wobble Your Heads!
Post by: Tony Clifton on July 21, 2018, 04:13:52 AM
Lads, how much was paid for Bolasie again?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 21, 2018, 04:15:56 AM
Yeah I think people imagine we are giving them 50m straight away but even we're not that mismanaged..

It will rise to 50m when he wins his 3rd Ballon D'or
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Tony Clifton on July 21, 2018, 04:16:42 AM
This thread mate lolol

Fucking madness, you'd think we were all getting billed a few grand the way some people carry on. 
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 21, 2018, 04:17:57 AM
Our fanbase has the biggest cranks in the league by a fucking mile lolol
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Mayor Farnum on July 21, 2018, 04:20:12 AM
Lads, how much was paid for Bolasie again?
Exactly. Our track record at valuation of players is poor. But this is football and no matter how many poor decisions a club makes fans will always get behind the next one.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 21, 2018, 04:25:39 AM
Lads, how much was paid for Bolasie again?

Shout
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Evertonian in NC on July 21, 2018, 04:30:29 AM
If you had asked people if this was a good idea before rationalization kicked in (ie, mostly in the barn, might as well make the best of it) as someone throwing out ideas, would have been at least 80/20 against at anywhere near these fees, with very strong language used.

Now, all we can do is hope for the best, but one can hardly call people names for feeling uneasy about it.  Will give him a fair chance, obviously.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 21, 2018, 04:36:14 AM
If you had asked people if this was a good idea before rationalization kicked in (ie, mostly in the barn, might as well make the best of it) as someone throwing out ideas, would have been at least 80/20 against at anywhere near these fees, with very strong language used.

Alright Iím high but what does that say
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 21, 2018, 04:36:32 AM
Iím by no means writing him off, he clearly has potential.

What do you think the chances are of him Ďtearing apartí teams from day one?

He come from Brazil last season and hit the ground running.

Considering how long it can take for South American players to adapt to the European leagues that bolds very well.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Evertonian in NC on July 21, 2018, 04:43:32 AM
Alright Iím high but what does that say

I'm a few pills in myself, mate.  To Friday!
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ramjam on July 21, 2018, 04:53:56 AM
I'm by no means writing him off, he clearly has potential.

What do you think the chances are of him "tearing apart' teams from day one?
The optimist in me says every chance, or as much a chance of any other player we would be capable of attracting at this time in our rebuilding program.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: American Evertonian on July 21, 2018, 04:57:18 AM
My pessimistic side just has me worried because our history of managers bringing players from their previous clubs isn't too great - Alcaraz, Kone, McCarthy (not so bad), and Martina.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Tofifee on July 21, 2018, 05:08:28 AM
Why are we all so hung up on the price!!! Its not your money or my money. EFC have money, plenty money. We can afford this.
He is a very good player
He will add to our squad. He costs what he costs.
We can afford it.

Stop bitching about the cost ffs
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: bluenuck on July 21, 2018, 05:18:56 AM
Why are we all so hung up on the price!!! Its not your money or my money. EFC have money, plenty money. We can afford this.
He is a very good player
He will add to our squad. He costs what he costs.
We can afford it.

Stop bitching about the cost ffs

While I'm not one of the people bitching about the price I can understand a little why they are. I think.

We can't keep overpaying massively for just good players that don't pan out like we did last season and paying them massive wages. It's not a sustainable model and the fear(I expect) from these people is we'll end up like Villa.

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 21, 2018, 05:22:40 AM
I wonder when weíll deny ever being interested in him?

My bet is just after The Shite sign another player.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Mayor Farnum on July 21, 2018, 05:33:58 AM
Why are we all so hung up on the price!!! Its not your money or my money. EFC have money, plenty money. We can afford this.
He is a very good player
He will add to our squad. He costs what he costs.
We can afford it.

Stop bitching about the cost ffs


Because it is an indicator of how well your club is being run; and if we have learnt from mistakes of the past.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 21, 2018, 05:40:06 AM
Because it is an indicator of how well your club is being run; and if we have learnt from mistakes of the past.

You must be the least chilled person on the planet man.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 21, 2018, 05:41:05 AM
Alright Iím high but what does that say

Haha man. I read it and it knocked my fucking socks off.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Mayor Farnum on July 21, 2018, 05:44:19 AM
You must be the least chilled person on the planet man.

How could I convince you otherwise?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 21, 2018, 05:46:48 AM
How could I convince you otherwise?

By not having a meltdown every couple of hours?

But seriously, I donít mind if yoharenor not. It was more that I skimmed through 10pages and you seems kinda stressed about the whole thing.

But tbf I think @Martip (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=6665) has thrown himself off a bridge reading the news so youíre fucking zen compared to that guy!
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Mayor Farnum on July 21, 2018, 05:53:30 AM
By not having a meltdown every couple of hours?

But seriously, I donít mind if yoharenor not. It was more that I skimmed through 10pages and you seems kinda stressed about the whole thing.

But tbf I think @Martip (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=6665) has thrown himself off a bridge reading the news so youíre fucking zen compared to that guy!

Well if what I've had tonight is a meltdown congratulations, you've convinced me I am the least chilled out person on the planet.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 21, 2018, 06:08:49 AM
Jesus.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Tinga on July 21, 2018, 06:10:07 AM
I mean, pretty boss that Everton can spend £50m on a winger, right?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ross on July 21, 2018, 06:26:40 AM
Thatís what xg is for. Eye can fail you a bit, if you take a large data set and find the average you can be reasonably confident on how jammy or easy something really is.

He maybe got quite lucky with some finishes, but in terms of players in the league who are playing in his position and trying to score goals - he actually got unlucky with more.

The mad thing is that the best players in the world consistently out perform their xg, because they are so good that they make more out of their service than they should. Means the better service you gave messi, Ronaldo they would just keep scoring more goals.

As a final point - Lookman outperforms his xg. Doesnít mean anything at this point. But I think a very data-led person would say if he keeps getting shots he will potentially give you a richarlison level season. Top end being a Mane or Salah season.

The main thing that concerns me is this looks like a manager drive buy than a DoF purchase to be honest.



Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: toffee_scot on July 21, 2018, 06:35:42 AM
Why are we all so hung up on the price!!! Its not your money or my money. EFC have money, plenty money. We can afford this.
He is a very good player
He will add to our squad. He costs what he costs.
We can afford it.

Stop bitching about the cost ffs

It might not be our money but it's still our club and we want Everton to make the best and wisest decisions possible with the funds that are available.

Not only do we want to stay financially stable but we don't get fucked over by other clubs when it comes to buying players like Bolasie for over £25m or fucked over by incompetent managers/DoFs who buy players without having a strategy and then we find once the manager is sacked that there is no place for expensive misfit players that we later on can't sell and hinder greatly our transfer plans for the following summer.

£50m is still a huge amount to invest for one player so I expect Richarlison to be the sort of player that can elevate us further and do well whether or not Marco Silva is the manager in x months/years
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 21, 2018, 06:40:54 AM
Lads, itís not 50mil.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Glory on July 21, 2018, 06:52:38 AM
Think the fee will be complex and undisclosed. Will involve a lot of addons and probably account for some sort of compensation for Silva to avoid lengthy legal proceedings.

What is currently floating about (50m) will only eventuate if he becomes a star and we win something, then we won't care about the fee!
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: KingOfNapaValley on July 21, 2018, 08:38:43 AM
Worst expensive signing by any team since Gylfi Sigurūsson.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 21, 2018, 09:02:47 AM
Worst expensive signing by any team since Gylfi Sigurūsson.
Yeah. Letís buy Danny Welbeck instead.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on July 21, 2018, 09:45:40 AM
Worst expensive signing by any team since Gylfi Sigurūsson.

You usually want us to sign Dybala, or someone else ludicrously unrealistic, as I recall.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Escla on July 21, 2018, 10:37:54 AM
Lads, itís not 50mil.

Precisely, itís £35mil plus add ons, I.e. if we start winning those things that we havenít won in over 30 years it could go up to 50 and I dare say thereís a chunk of compo for our tapping up Silva in there which puts that to bed.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Silas on July 21, 2018, 11:20:02 AM
35 is still high end but that's the market now. Still rather him than many of tbosr we've been linked with and that is what matters
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: howard1334 on July 21, 2018, 11:33:50 AM
35 is still high end but that's the market now. Still rather him than many of tbosr we've been linked with and that is what matters

i don't know if 35m is quite the market. even with the crazy prices going around, only 25 to 30 is probably market for a guy that has only ever scored five goals in the Prem. we are likely overpaying by a bit -- serious pundits think so.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Juanito on July 21, 2018, 12:00:43 PM
Worst expensive signing by any team since Gylfi Sigurūsson.

Because? How did you feel when Everton simply couldnít complete in the transfer market? This kid is 21 and potential wise (future full Brazilian international) is huge.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Escla on July 21, 2018, 01:50:52 PM
i don't know if 35m is quite the market. even with the crazy prices going around, only 25 to 30 is probably market for a guy that has only ever scored five goals in the Prem. we are likely overpaying by a bit -- serious pundits think so.

And how many goals has Lookman scored in the Prem ? Yet people bounding around valuations of £40 million.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Paddockoldie on July 21, 2018, 01:51:26 PM
Silva has obviously got faith in this guy to pay that fee, knowing his first signing will be scrutinised, so have faith. Also Marcel rates him and he wouldn't risk his rep either. If Watford will sell him to us, do we go back for that Dac fella. Saying that they might be financially balling us by doing that.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Trowel on July 21, 2018, 02:02:56 PM
https://twitter.com/footballfactman/status/1020562486976811008
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: howard1334 on July 21, 2018, 02:06:23 PM
And how many goals has Lookman scored in the Prem ? Yet people bounding around valuations of £40 million.

Not anyone reasonable. And certainly not me, even though, if you go look at the Lookman thread, I am clearly one of his biggest, most vocal proponents on this forum. Personally, I would realistically value Lookman at between 20m-25m. (Though, I would not want Everton to sell him for less than 30mish, but that is b/c I am attached to him as a player and b/c i generally don't like selling good players if we can avoid it.)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 21, 2018, 02:12:56 PM
Not anyone reasonable. And certainly not me, even though, if you go look at the Lookman thread, I am clearly one of his biggest, most vocal proponents on this forum. Personally, I would realistically value Lookman at between 20m-25m. (Though, I would not want Everton to sell him for less than 30mish, but that is b/c I am attached to him as a player and b/c i generally don't like selling good players if we can avoid it.)

I think if lookman were to stay people wouldnít have much of an issue with this deal either. Itís fear that while we need them both we are just gonna swap 1 for the other and in 12 months time we might have the wrong 1 and be 20m down

40 isnít so bad really. 50 is definitely getting a bit daft though. Also we do have to start trying to find the next 1 rather than just buying proven
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 21, 2018, 02:20:33 PM
Some of you are never happy, probably moan if we signed Messi!
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 21, 2018, 02:26:31 PM
i don't know if 35m is quite the market. even with the crazy prices going around, only 25 to 30 is probably market for a guy that has only ever scored five goals in the Prem. we are likely overpaying by a bit -- serious pundits think so.

Those serious pundits would say fuck all if it was The Shite buying him
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: bluegriffo on July 21, 2018, 02:43:52 PM
The main thing that concerns me is this looks like a manager drive buy than a DoF purchase to be honest.
No point in dof picking players the managers not interested in I think it works as Marko has all ready said he lets them know what he wants and they will get um and i dof spots a hidden gem he will speak to Marko and say do you fancy this and he will say yay or nay thatís how I think works I think this lad would be brilliant at our club and as for people talking about welbeck cause heís cheaper have a word with your self and Iím sure marcel and board know the valuation of player as stated before it add ons and a bit of compo Iím well up for this and hope it happens
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: D15TIN on July 21, 2018, 02:56:18 PM
Been told he's signed late last night/this morning
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Martip on July 21, 2018, 02:56:55 PM
By not having a meltdown every couple of hours?

But seriously, I donít mind if yoharenor not. It was more that I skimmed through 10pages and you seems kinda stressed about the whole thing.

But tbf I think @Martip (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=6665) has thrown himself off a bridge reading the news so youíre fucking zen compared to that guy!
Very strange. You seem to think that anyone who queries whether a proposed signing is better than what we 've got/is worth the fee we 're paying is having a meltdown - crazy.

As fans surely we should debate the benefits of any signing and whether they would improve the team especially considering the past 12 months of mismanagement. Surely it shouldn't go from 'Bolasie is great cause be cost 28m abd stop being so negative' to 'Bolasie is shit get rid' etc ?

At the end of the day it wouldn't be much of a forum if everyone just thought every signing was good/worth it.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 21, 2018, 03:04:07 PM
People saying itís purely a Silva signing are forgetting Brandsí knowledge of and links to South American football.

A young, fast, athletic, powerful winger like Richarlison would definitely have been on Brandsí radar at PSV before he went to Watford.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 21, 2018, 03:04:54 PM
Been told he's signed late last night/this morning

Who did you hear this from?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 21, 2018, 03:05:25 PM
Been told he's signed late last night/this morning

This sort of matches what I heard, had his medical on Thursday
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: D15TIN on July 21, 2018, 03:06:12 PM
Who did you hear this from?
Mate at FF (he genuinely does work there) ha, messaged me late last night saying he's just signed
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lxxx on July 21, 2018, 03:06:44 PM
A lot of the sensationalism is just click bait spin. £50m for Brazilian international makes headlines whereas £35m for Watford player doesnít sound as sexy.

It is what it is. If he improves the side let Brands and Moshiri worry about how it stacks up.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 21, 2018, 03:07:27 PM
Mate at FF (he genuinely does work there) ha, messaged me late last night saying he's just signed

Is he always spot on with his info?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Gumpinio on July 21, 2018, 03:07:36 PM
I mean, pretty boss that Everton can spend £50m on a winger, right?

Only if we can still fill the positions we really need with quality.  If we massively overspend on one player and then start the season with Jags and Keane at CB it won't be so good
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: D15TIN on July 21, 2018, 03:14:22 PM
Is he always spot on with his info?
He told me early yesterday lookman wasn't travelling as he had a thigh injury, Alan myers then tweeted that later last night
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 21, 2018, 03:18:36 PM
Very strange. You seem to think that anyone who queries whether a proposed signing is better than what we 've got/is worth the fee we 're paying is having a meltdown - crazy.

As fans surely we should debate the benefits of any signing and whether they would improve the team especially considering the past 12 months of mismanagement. Surely it shouldn't go from 'Bolasie is great cause be cost 28m abd stop being so negative' to 'Bolasie is shit get rid' etc ?

At the end of the day it wouldn't be much of a forum if everyone just thought every signing was good/worth it.

No I just binged through 10 pages of the thread and it was mainly you and that other guy thinking the sky is falling and repeating yourselves every other post.

People can differ in opinion all they like. Itís the repeating of the same points over and over is what makes me laugh. Like when that Everton mint guy manages to crowbar in his dislike for Tosun in almost every post. Itís funny is all.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 21, 2018, 03:21:47 PM
https://twitter.com/philkecho/status/1020577666683088897
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Escla on July 21, 2018, 03:24:06 PM
He told me early yesterday lookman wasn't travelling as he had a thigh injury, Alan myers then tweeted that later last night

The fact that Lookman wasnít travelling, together with Boloassie and one other was on the OS well before that.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: D15TIN on July 21, 2018, 03:27:46 PM
The fact that Lookman wasnít travelling, together with Boloassie and one other was on the OS well before that.
Well before what?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 21, 2018, 03:37:19 PM
https://twitter.com/philkecho/status/1020577666683088897

Kirkbride copying my post   ::)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Martip on July 21, 2018, 03:37:24 PM
No I just binged through 10 pages of the thread and it was mainly you and that other guy thinking the sky is falling and repeating yourselves every other post.

People can differ in opinion all they like. Itís the repeating of the same points over and over is what makes me laugh. Like when that Everton mint guy manages to crowbar in his dislike for Tosun in almost every post. Itís funny is all.
I'm converted - he's the next Neymar can't wait for season to start.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 21, 2018, 03:40:49 PM
I'm converted - he's the next Neymar can't wait for season to start.

I genuinely believe youíve never been excited about anything in your life. 😉

Just relax man. These guys are pros. This kid could be the one weíve all been waiting for. Time will tell I guess.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Martip on July 21, 2018, 03:41:44 PM
I genuinely believe youíve never been excited about anything in your life. 😉
If only you knew !  ;D
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 21, 2018, 03:43:11 PM
If only you knew !  ;D

Haha. I just edited in case the emoji wasnít enough to convey I wasnít having a dig.

Iím surprisingly chilled about this window which is weird considering the messy ones weíve seen the past few years.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Escla on July 21, 2018, 03:44:08 PM
Well before what?
Well before you mentioned it.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: D15TIN on July 21, 2018, 03:45:46 PM
Well before you mentioned it.
At the time I was told, early afternoon yesterday it wasn't on the OS
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 21, 2018, 03:50:40 PM
Who are the good Everton itkís and journoís to follow on Twitter?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: D15TIN on July 21, 2018, 03:56:19 PM
Who are the good Everton itkís and journoís to follow on Twitter?
Paul Joyce
Dom King
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lincs Toffee on July 21, 2018, 03:59:08 PM
Am I the only one pretty excited by this signing ?... I think given the circumstances of him starting at Watford with no rest beforehand, hitting the ground running there really shows what a prospect he is and with better players round him too I think he will surprise a lot of you.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 21, 2018, 04:02:29 PM
Am I the only one pretty excited by this signing ?... I think given the circumstances of him starting at Watford with no rest beforehand, hitting the ground running there really shows what a prospect he is and with better players round him too I think he will surprise a lot of you.


Iím very excited, has a lot of what we are missing going forward and very young.

Am a little surprised the first signing sounds like a winger rather than lb / cb / cm but I think digne will sign this weekend too.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Escla on July 21, 2018, 04:03:15 PM
Am I the only one pretty excited by this signing ?... I think given the circumstances of him starting at Watford with no rest beforehand, hitting the ground running there really shows what a prospect he is and with better players round him too I think he will surprise a lot of you.

No, Iím with you, I think a few more people would be more exited if they could just get that shit about our paying £50 million for him out of their head, itís £35 plus add ons that could eventually take it to £50 mil
(BBC) those conditions would probably include us qualifying for CL and winning a couple of cups and if there is an element of Compo in there for our tapping up Silva then so be it ant the matter is put to bed.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 21, 2018, 04:08:18 PM
Iím very excited, has a lot of what we are missing going forward and very young.

Am a little surprised the first signing sounds like a winger rather than lb / cb / cm but I think digne will sign this weekend too.

I would be more enthused by Tierney at the same price, but admittedly I havenít seen Digne play
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 21, 2018, 04:14:03 PM

Obligatory YouTube vid.

I usually avoid these but had a look to see if it showed a different side to him.

Turns out heís actually got a decent eye for a pass as well. Also not afraid of the dirty work, something i noticed when he was taking the piss out of us last season.

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 21, 2018, 04:16:45 PM
Think we could still do with someone to get us up the pitch cm wise and maybe s chance creator? Donít think any of our options make many chances. Hopefully sig will show more than he has.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Escla on July 21, 2018, 04:17:48 PM

Obligatory YouTube vid.

I usually avoid these but had a look to see if it showed a different side to him.

Turns out heís actually got a decent eye for a pass as well. Also not afraid of the dirty work, something i noticed when he was taking the piss out of us last season.

Enough to give me a semi, touch of the young Mirralas there !
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 21, 2018, 04:22:21 PM
Think we could still do with someone to get us up the pitch cm wise and maybe s chance creator? Donít think any of our options make many chances. Hopefully sig will show more than he has.

Word is he rates dowell and wants him to play a big part.

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Martip on July 21, 2018, 04:27:19 PM
Think we could still do with someone to get us up the pitch cm wise and maybe s chance creator? Donít think any of our options make many chances. Hopefully sig will show more than he has.
I 've got a sneaky feeling Sig is going to come good this year.....quality player who underperformed last time out.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 21, 2018, 04:31:22 PM
Word is he rates dowell and wants him to play a big part.



Phwooar into that like.

Richarlison has way more sauce than I have him credit for. Iíve gone from being on the fence a bit to being bang up for this one now.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 21, 2018, 04:35:57 PM
I 've got a sneaky feeling Sig is going to come good this year.....quality player who underperformed last time out.

Will be very interesting to see how he gets on. Practically every one of his metrics for last year were lower than his usual standard so I think there’s a very good chance he could have a great year. I think he’ll get about 10 goals and 10 assists and I’d be absolutely over the moon with it.

Only issue is, he doesn’t create that much from open play (nor does anyone in our side) as has been covered plenty. It feels like he is that sort of player but really I think he’s a super powered Tim Cahill.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 21, 2018, 04:36:16 PM
Word is he rates dowell and wants him to play a big part.



Really, whereíd you hear that, mate?

Doesnít Silvaís midfield three generally comprise of a holder, a playmaker, and a box-to box?

If so, he surely sees Dowell as a playmaker, because he certainly isnít either of the other two.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Dr. Sponge on July 21, 2018, 04:41:11 PM
I have mixed feelings over this.

Heís a big talent and has recently proved he can do it at Premier League level, still only at the age of 21. Looks to have a really good all-round game - quick, strong, energetic, both feet, strong in the tackle, good link up play, good vision. As he develops I think he could play anywhere across the forward line or in midfield.

But for now, I wouldnít have said heís what we needed most. CB, CM and LB still needs to be addressed. And although thereís still time for that to happen, the clock is ticking. Also, the reported fee is really high. You can try to justify it, but Barca are making a third bid of £55mil for Willian as we speak and he is lightyears ahead of Richarlson, and proven at every level.

Itís a brave move from Brands and Silva because theyíve opened themselves up for massive criticism if he flops, as most of us thought weíd be shopping for obscure bargains in different positions this summer. But ultimately, I believe in their vision for the club and trust their track record. So if thatís who they want and for that price, then so be it.

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Martip on July 21, 2018, 04:46:03 PM
Will be very interesting to see how he gets on. Practically every one of his metrics for last year were lower than his usual standard so I think thereís a very good chance he could have a great year. I think heíll get about 10 goals and 10 assists and Iíd be absolutely over the moon with it.

Only issue is, he doesnít create that much from open play (nor does anyone in our side) as has been covered plenty. It feels like he is that sort of player but really I think heís a super powered Tim Cahill.
I hope he does land that sort of haul I really do and I think he's got it in him if he recreates some of his Swansea/Iceland form.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 21, 2018, 04:46:21 PM
I have mixed feelings over this.

Heís a big talent and has recently proved he can do it at Premier League level, still only at the age of 21. Looks to have a really good all-round game - quick, strong, energetic, both feet, strong in the tackle, good link up play, good vision. As he develops I think he could play anywhere across the forward line or in midfield.

But for now, I wouldnít have said heís what we needed most. CB, CM and LB still needs to be addressed. And although thereís still time for that to happen, the clock is ticking. Also, the reported fee is really high. You can try to justify it, but Barca are making a third bid of £55mil for Willian as we speak and he is lightyears ahead of Richarlson, and proven at every level.

Itís a brave move from Brands and Silva because theyíve opened themselves up for massive criticism if he flops, as most of us thought weíd be shopping for obscure bargains in different positions this summer. But ultimately, I believe in their vision for the club and trust their track record. So if thatís who they want and for that price, then so be it.



Know what you mean but theyíre not mutually exclusive, and I really do think Digne is done.

I am concerned that we donít seem to have been linked to any cmís, but weíll see.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Cozzie on July 21, 2018, 04:47:04 PM
Before his injury Sig was getting to where he should have been.

In this system we will see the best of him.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 21, 2018, 04:55:17 PM
Before his injury Sig was getting to where he should have been.

In this system we will see the best of him.

Do you see him as a playmaker or a box-to-box in Silvaís side?

Because the stats suggest that he doesnít create enough from open play to be the playmaker for a side aspiring to be Top 6.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Cozzie on July 21, 2018, 05:00:28 PM
Do you see him as a playmaker or a box-to-box in Silvaís side?

Because the stats suggest that he doesnít create enough from open play to be the playmaker for a side aspiring to be Top 6.

Its a tough one I would say playmaker as I feel we will sign a box to box type midfielder like Doucoure who he had at Warford.

The stats do show he isn't the best at play making especially but has he ever played in a system like this before?

I can't remember who he played under, think it was Laudrup at Swansea where he played well and earned a move to Spurs where got wasted on the left.

We generally also never played him centrally during his time here so who knows.

One thing I do know is he deffo has the engine to make it as a box to box midfielder but just can't see him being used as that.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 21, 2018, 05:08:53 PM
I have mixed feelings over this.

He's a big talent and has recently proved he can do it at Premier League level, still only at the age of 21. Looks to have a really good all-round game - quick, strong, energetic, both feet, strong in the tackle, good link up play, good vision. As he develops I think he could play anywhere across the forward line or in midfield.

But for now, I wouldn't have said he's what we needed most. CB, CM and LB still needs to be addressed. And although there's still time for that to happen, the clock is ticking. Also, the reported fee is really high. You can try to justify it, but Barca are making a third bid of £55mil for Willian as we speak and he is lightyears ahead of Richarlson, and proven at every level.

It's a brave move from Brands and Silva because they've opened themselves up for massive criticism if he flops, as most of us thought we'd be shopping for obscure bargains in different positions this summer. But ultimately, I believe in their vision for the club and trust their track record. So if that's who they want and for that price, then so be it.
Willian is also 29. Iíd hate us to pay that much for a 29 year old.

We need 3 or 4 big signings this summer. This is one. Lb Cb and a midfielder to complete the shop.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Dr. Sponge on July 21, 2018, 05:21:02 PM
Willian is also 29. I'd hate us to pay that much for a 29 year old.

We need 3 or 4 big signings this summer. This is one. Lb Cb and a midfielder to complete the shop.

But weíre still massively overpaying at £50mil.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Goaljira on July 21, 2018, 05:21:45 PM
But weíre still massively overpaying at £50mil.

Good job its £35m then.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Dr. Sponge on July 21, 2018, 05:25:45 PM
Good job its £35m then.

It better be.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 21, 2018, 05:29:06 PM
I hope we do pay 50 for him. It means weíve been successful.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Rodenplav64 on July 21, 2018, 05:31:58 PM
Some truly wild assumptions here . To me its more like we can't really get any quality to come but Richarlissons not bad so lets pay way over the top . Still that's just the way it is . Running to stand still . 7th here we come .
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Escla on July 21, 2018, 05:32:29 PM
But weíre still massively overpaying at £50mil.

Jeez....when will this ever end ? ITS NOT £50 MILLION ! :bonk:
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Escla on July 21, 2018, 05:33:54 PM
Some truly wild assumptions here . To me its more like we can't really get any quality to come but Richarlissons not bad so lets pay way over the top . Still that's just the way it is . Running to stand still . 7th here we come .
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In todayís market £35 million not that far over the top for a 20 year old.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 21, 2018, 05:33:59 PM
Some truly wild assumptions here . To me its more like we can't really get any quality to come but Richarlissons not bad so lets pay way over the top . Still that's just the way it is . Running to stand still . 7th here we come .

What are these assumptions you speak of?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ross on July 21, 2018, 05:34:30 PM
I hope we do pay 50 for him. It means weíve been successful.

Not necessarily, they could just be appearance related add ons. 50 games and extra £5m, 100 games another 5m etc.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Escla on July 21, 2018, 05:38:02 PM
Not necessarily, they could just be appearance related add ons. 50 games and extra £5m, 100 games another 5m etc.

If he gets 100 games he canít be playing too badly !
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: GLewis on July 21, 2018, 05:38:24 PM
Not necessarily, they could just be appearance related add ons. 50 games and extra £5m, 100 games another 5m etc.

Not likely though is it.

Some of it might be but Iíd say itís probable most will achievement based.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 21, 2018, 05:38:42 PM
It better be.


(https://i.makeagif.com/media/1-21-2017/4l8o3S.gif)

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Makis on July 21, 2018, 05:39:06 PM
I have mixed feelings over this.

Heís a big talent and has recently proved he can do it at Premier League level, still only at the age of 21. Looks to have a really good all-round game - quick, strong, energetic, both feet, strong in the tackle, good link up play, good vision. As he develops I think he could play anywhere across the forward line or in midfield.

But for now, I wouldnít have said heís what we needed most. CB, CM and LB still needs to be addressed. And although thereís still time for that to happen, the clock is ticking. Also, the reported fee is really high. You can try to justify it, but Barca are making a third bid of £55mil for Willian as we speak and he is lightyears ahead of Richarlson, and proven at every level.

Itís a brave move from Brands and Silva because theyíve opened themselves up for massive criticism if he flops, as most of us thought weíd be shopping for obscure bargains in different positions this summer. But ultimately, I believe in their vision for the club and trust their track record. So if thatís who they want and for that price, then so be it.


We absolutely need a wide player. Currently we have three players who are truly wide players (instead of central players forced to play wide): Walcott, Lookman and Bolasie. Last one is for sale. And considering how important those positions are for Silva's tactics there's just no way we can start the season without strenghtening those positions.

Secondly, just because we sign Richarlison doesn't mean there won't be other incomings. And they can work on more than one deal at a time. Just because we deal with Watford doesn't mean they can't talk with Barca about Digne at the same time.

And would you really be happy if we spent 55 million on a 29-year old Willian?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Dr. Sponge on July 21, 2018, 05:39:19 PM
Jeez....when will this ever end ? ITS NOT £50 MILLION ! :bonk:

Thatís not whatís in the news.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ross on July 21, 2018, 05:40:22 PM
If he gets 100 games he canít be playing too badly !

Iíll remind you of that if Ashley Williams hits the mark sometime this season.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ross on July 21, 2018, 05:43:00 PM
Not likely though is it.

Some of it might be but Iíd say itís probable most will achievement based.

Whatís unlikely about it? Pretty sure itís standard stuff even going back to the days we sold Rooney.

Itís probably better from Watfordís point of view than wanting to insert a sell on percentage.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lxxx on July 21, 2018, 05:46:40 PM
If we end up paying the full £50m there a high likelihood we'd be in a position to at least double our money on him, but let's not let reason get in the way of a good moan.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 21, 2018, 05:49:39 PM
I think people claiming it's 35 million are being as misleading as them claiming it's 50. We really need to see what the add ons are to make a judhement. If they are appearance based then really it's 50 million and if they are based on trophies and international caps then it's closer to the 35m
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: GLewis on July 21, 2018, 05:51:43 PM
Whatís unlikely about it? Pretty sure itís standard stuff even going back to the days we sold Rooney.

Itís probably better from Watfordís point of view than wanting to insert a sell on percentage.

There were lots of trophy payments, signing a new deal etc. too.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Dr. Sponge on July 21, 2018, 05:57:08 PM
Iím not made up with the fee because I think it could restrain our spending power for the other positions that we need better quality.

But that aside, he looks really promising. Heís a player Iíll look forward to watching at Goodison if he ends up signing.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ross on July 21, 2018, 05:57:26 PM
There were lots of trophy payments, signing a new deal etc. too.

Yeah Iím aware of that, most people were. But nobody yet knows how this is structured so to assume heíd of been a great success if we end up paying the full fee is a stretch at the minute.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 21, 2018, 06:01:46 PM

Obligatory YouTube vid.

I usually avoid these but had a look to see if it showed a different side to him.

Turns out heís actually got a decent eye for a pass as well. Also not afraid of the dirty work, something i noticed when he was taking the piss out of us last season.



One of the better YT vids. Heís having people off left right and centre there.

Youíre right about having an eye for a pass. Tosun is easily bagginí 20 this season.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Shropshire Blue on July 21, 2018, 06:03:25 PM
Haven't trawled right back through all 22 pages but isn't the 'hidden' side of this fee about quietly settling the dispute over Silva's compensation claims from Watford? Pay over the odds compensation claim goes away and we're all friends again?
That or some variation of it.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Silas on July 21, 2018, 06:05:44 PM
I would love a playmaking cm but i think we have a lot of players in the central position and will probably make do. Expecting a lot of our creativity to come through the wide areas this year with the centre to hold and give it to them via Sigurddsson. I would be really happy with the three coming in. Anything else is a bonus after that.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: GLewis on July 21, 2018, 06:06:31 PM
Yeah Iím aware of that, most people were. But nobody yet knows how this is structured so to assume heíd of been a great success if we end up paying the full fee is a stretch at the minute.

Yes but to pay the full fee itís more likely than not that weíll have achieved something worthwhile.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 21, 2018, 06:07:55 PM
Buy him for 35 million, he does the business for 3 years, scores loads, gets called up to the Brazilian national team, sell him to Barca for 250 million
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: GLewis on July 21, 2018, 06:08:32 PM
I would love a playmaking cm but i think we have a lot of players in the central position and will probably make do. Expecting a lot of our creativity to come through the wide areas this year with the centre to hold and give it to them via Sigurddsson. I would be really happy with the three coming in. Anything else is a bonus after that.
Ideally for balance youíd have a play maker.

But after Coutinho left they didnít really have one. They relied on system and high positioning.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ross on July 21, 2018, 06:13:22 PM
Yes but to pay the full fee itís more likely than not that weíll have achieved something worthwhile.

Again thatís impossible to know until more of the finer details are released. The extra £15m could be made up of very easily achievable targets.

After all, Iím sure you'll agree, we do have a recent history of being extremely poor negotiators.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lxxx on July 21, 2018, 06:13:27 PM
I hadn't really seen much of him but that YouTube vid makes him look like a peak Bolasie on steroids. Big, fast, skilful but with an end product. Think with him and Walcott bombing down the flanks Sig could well find himself in some decent goalscoring positions to bag double figures again.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: GLewis on July 21, 2018, 06:17:05 PM
Think heís someone that will help us score away at the better teams.

They nearly all leave big spaces down the flanks so with him and Walcott we should carry a genuine threat.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 21, 2018, 06:18:05 PM
Interesting to note that Watford didnít score a single goal away from home under their new manager.

That could go some way to explain his dip in form.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Silas on July 21, 2018, 06:20:55 PM
Ideally for balance youíd have a play maker.

But after Coutinho left they didnít really have one. They relied on system and high positioning.

Agreed but unless a number of central midfielders leave (regardless of quality we have fucking loads before you even think of a Baningme getting a look). I see us using Dowell potentially but most likely sacrificing creativity in the centre in most premier league games. 
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on July 21, 2018, 06:22:45 PM
Also people. Watford do hate us. We're always bound to pay over the odds, but Silva/Brands have clearly decided they believe in the player above and beyond any additional premium we have to pay.

I genuinely thought we wouldn't get near a Watford player this year. Just assumed they wouldn't even talk to us.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Brownie on July 21, 2018, 06:23:01 PM
Watching that YT vid he seems a lot more robust and confident than Lookman
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 21, 2018, 06:23:43 PM
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/07/20/everton-close-richarlison-talks-watford-40m-deal-progress/

This is for anybody who keeps saying 50mil.

From Bascombe whoís reporting itís a deal worth potentially 40mil.

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 21, 2018, 06:24:14 PM
Also people. Watford do hate us. We're always bound to pay over the odds, but Silva/Brands have clearly decided they believe in the player above and beyond any additional premium we have to pay.

I genuinely thought we wouldn't get near a Watford player this year. Just assumed they wouldn't even talk to us.

I was thinking that. Surprised to see we are even on speaking terms.

They must hate us. Taken their manager and best player in the past 6 months.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 21, 2018, 06:25:14 PM
Also people. Watford do hate us. We're always bound to pay over the odds, but Silva/Brands have clearly decided they believe in the player above and beyond any additional premium we have to pay.

I genuinely thought we wouldn't get near a Watford player this year. Just assumed they wouldn't even talk to us.

Good to put them in their place though.

Alright lads, give us your manager and best player there. Nice one.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Silas on July 21, 2018, 06:29:47 PM
They hate us because they love our money. I can live with that.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 21, 2018, 06:31:28 PM
Watching that YT vid he seems a lot more robust and confident than Lookman

Yeah, stronger and bigger than I thought too. Looking forward to this one. About time we had a powerful forward player with some skill.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Redartin on July 21, 2018, 06:59:27 PM
Also people. Watford do hate us. We're always bound to pay over the odds, but Silva/Brands have clearly decided they believe in the player above and beyond any additional premium we have to pay.

I genuinely thought we wouldn't get near a Watford player this year. Just assumed they wouldn't even talk to us.
To quote a Watford fan,

"If someone robbed your house, then came back and apologised and offered to pay your mortgage, would you say No."

It also isn't good, for either side, to have a club which they don't want to deal with.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 21, 2018, 07:16:18 PM
To quote a Watford fan,

"If someone robbed your house, then came back and apologised and offered to pay your mortgage, would you say No."

It also isn't good, for either side, to have a club which they don't want to deal with.


This is true. Who else will take our Tom Cleverley's?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 21, 2018, 07:27:12 PM
I would love a playmaking cm but i think we have a lot of players in the central position and will probably make do. Expecting a lot of our creativity to come through the wide areas this year with the centre to hold and give it to them via Sigurddsson. I would be really happy with the three coming in. Anything else is a bonus after that.

Iím surprised Iím seeing so many people who are alright with it. For me itís a major requirement this year.

Maybe the plan will be let Schneiderlin drop diagonals into the channels for Walcott and Richarlison but I really do think we could do with an actually good midfielder.

I like the Sigurdsson as a box to box player theory and I like the dowell as De Bruyne ball player theory if either of them worked Iíd be alright with it. Sigurdsson can deffo get up and down and he works hard. Dowell looks miles off the prem for me but I like the idea that silva can unlock him and get him spraying balls and sliding through balls.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: stirlingblue on July 21, 2018, 07:48:18 PM
I'm surprised I'm seeing so many people who are alright with it. For me it's a major requirement this year.

Maybe the plan will be let Schneiderlin drop diagonals into the channels for Walcott and Richarlison but I really do think we could do with an actually good midfielder.

I like the Sigurdsson as a box to box player theory and I like the dowell as De Bruyne ball player theory if either of them worked I'd be alright with it. Sigurdsson can deffo get up and down and he works hard. Dowell looks miles off the prem for me but I like the idea that silva can unlock him and get him spraying balls and sliding through balls.


Dowell has mean shot on him, but Iíve not seen anything to suggest heís capable of spraying balls/sliding through balls
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blueToffee on July 21, 2018, 07:55:21 PM
Iím surprised Iím seeing so many people who are alright with it. For me itís a major requirement this year.

Maybe the plan will be let Schneiderlin drop diagonals into the channels for Walcott and Richarlison but I really do think we could do with an actually good midfielder.

I like the Sigurdsson as a box to box player theory and I like the dowell as De Bruyne ball player theory if either of them worked Iíd be alright with it. Sigurdsson can deffo get up and down and he works hard. Dowell looks miles off the prem for me but I like the idea that silva can unlock him and get him spraying balls and sliding through balls.

LB, CB and CM are the basic requirements this summer in the transfer window for me.

Would be very disappointing not to get a different option in the CM position.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 21, 2018, 08:02:44 PM
Iím surprised Iím seeing so many people who are alright with it. For me itís a major requirement this year.

Maybe the plan will be let Schneiderlin drop diagonals into the channels for Walcott and Richarlison but I really do think we could do with an actually good midfielder.

I like the Sigurdsson as a box to box player theory and I like the dowell as De Bruyne ball player theory if either of them worked Iíd be alright with it. Sigurdsson can deffo get up and down and he works hard. Dowell looks miles off the prem for me but I like the idea that silva can unlock him and get him spraying balls and sliding through balls.

Yes, I also love the idea of both of them stepping up and fulfilling these roles to a Top 6 challenging standard, however I feel itís unlikely.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Silas on July 21, 2018, 08:03:02 PM
Iím surprised Iím seeing so many people who are alright with it. For me itís a major requirement this year.

Maybe the plan will be let Schneiderlin drop diagonals into the channels for Walcott and Richarlison but I really do think we could do with an actually good midfielder.

I like the Sigurdsson as a box to box player theory and I like the dowell as De Bruyne ball player theory if either of them worked Iíd be alright with it. Sigurdsson can deffo get up and down and he works hard. Dowell looks miles off the prem for me but I like the idea that silva can unlock him and get him spraying balls and sliding through balls.

That's just it I'm okay with it not ecstatic or anything. To push on into the higher positions we need one of course but i think we will see progress this season without one providing we strengthen in those other positons.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 21, 2018, 08:30:27 PM

Dowell has mean shot on him, but Iíve not seen anything to suggest heís capable of spraying balls/sliding through balls

The article by @footballfactman on twitter that @kramer0 (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4360) linked the other day pulled him out of a data set that said he passed the ball a bit like a poor mans De Bruyne.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 21, 2018, 08:35:37 PM
The article by @footballfactman on twitter that @kramer0 (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4360) linked the other day pulled him out of a data set that said he passed the ball a bit like a poor mans De Bruyne.

Blimey, really?

Well, thatís encouraging.

I expect at Dowellís age, De Bruyne passed the ball like a poor manís De Bruyne as well.   
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 21, 2018, 08:36:53 PM
Blimey, really?

Yeah, I mean it probably just means into the same areas on the pitch and with the same frequency or something? But it sounds promising imo.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 21, 2018, 08:38:01 PM
Yeah, I mean it probably just means into the same areas on the pitch and with the same frequency or something? But it sounds promising imo.

I did a vaguely amusing wee edit as well 
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 21, 2018, 08:54:14 PM
The article by @footballfactman on twitter that @kramer0 (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4360) linked the other day pulled him out of a data set that said he passed the ball a bit like a poor mans De Bruyne.

He looks like heís got a bit of everything talent wise. The only issue for me is he looks a bit of a poor athlete. Not sure you get away with that in the modern game unless youíre exceptional
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: GLewis on July 21, 2018, 08:59:12 PM
He looks like heís got a bit of everything talent wise. The only issue for me is he looks a bit of a poor athlete. Not sure you get away with that in the modern game unless youíre exceptional

Or you need to get decent experience (somewhere) of learning how to get round those deficiencies.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: eugene on July 21, 2018, 08:59:38 PM
I did a vaguely amusing wee edit as well
I did a vaguely amusing wee too but thatís my age
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: dunkster on July 21, 2018, 09:11:32 PM
See, when I watched Malcolm highlights on YouTube the other day I was like hmmn..Ok but not getting me overly excited.
Watching richarlson YouTube this morning I can see he's a real handful with skill along with it. I was more confident about him than malcolm
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Rodenplav64 on July 21, 2018, 09:30:17 PM
What are these assumptions you speak of?

 "Marcel clearly rates him " " His form only dipped because Silva left " . " He will be worth 3 times this as he is only 21 " Maybe not verbatim but that's my drift . And I don't think he is that good ( a yer da shout I suppose ) and he certainly has done nothing to justify that price . It seems your worth the money for any number of reasons these days .
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: pjk on July 21, 2018, 09:33:29 PM
Looks like it's close to being done. This lad's careful what he tweets. :)



https://twitter.com/dave_seed/status/1020670782702346240
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: kramer0 on July 21, 2018, 09:44:35 PM
At least heís only 21.

Walshy would have made this deal for a 28 year old.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on July 21, 2018, 10:53:24 PM
Haven't trawled right back through all 22 pages but isn't the 'hidden' side of this fee about quietly settling the dispute over Silva's compensation claims from Watford? Pay over the odds compensation claim goes away and we're all friends again?
That or some variation of it.
Fucking expensive way to settle owt, tripple replays for a move or a goal on youtube triples the price but we don't seem that savvy yet, is there broadband at Goodison?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Shropshire Blue on July 21, 2018, 11:06:02 PM
Fucking expensive way to settle owt, tripple replays for a move or a goal on youtube triples the price but we don't seem that savvy yet, is there broadband at Goodison?
Only the usual speculation to go on like anyone else but isn't Watford claim for compensation £20m or thereabouts.  That in reality brings the fee down considerably.
Like all transfer deals we will never really know, and what we will find out will be down the line.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 21, 2018, 11:06:12 PM
Rumours of a medical appear to be premature, according to this


 https://twitter.com/EvertonBlueArmy/status/1020698749193072640?s=20
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on July 21, 2018, 11:15:03 PM
Only the usual speculation to go on like anyone else but isn't Watford claim for compensation £20m or thereabouts.  That in reality brings the fee down considerably.
Like all transfer deals we will never really know, and what we will find out will be down the line.
Your probably right mate, it just makes me nervous when i hear we've even enquired about anyone since the shit we've bought  last couple o years...Pickford apart ....be more enthusiastic to see a load more leave first before signing anyone, think it would speed improvement up..
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Cozzie on July 21, 2018, 11:16:57 PM
Rumours of a medical appear to be premature, according to this


 https://twitter.com/EvertonBlueArmy/status/1020698749193072640?s=20

Uploaded 15 minutes ago doesnt mean it was TAKEN 15 mins ago 😎
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Mayor Farnum on July 21, 2018, 11:21:24 PM
Only the usual speculation to go on like anyone else but isn't Watford claim for compensation £20m or thereabouts.  That in reality brings the fee down considerably.
Like all transfer deals we will never really know, and what we will find out will be down the line.

20 mill may well be their claim but our lawyers would be unlikely to agree to settle such a large amount at this stage in a case that would leave so much to speculation.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 21, 2018, 11:22:31 PM
Uploaded 15 minutes ago doesnt mean it was TAKEN 15 mins ago 😎

According to some dude on there it does, as it was an Insta Story (I feel so shallow typing that out... Iím off to watch Love Island then Iím going to an EDM night with rolled up t-shirt sleeves)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Shropshire Blue on July 21, 2018, 11:23:30 PM
Behind the scenes I bet there is an organisational frenzy going on!
We are very much back at square one in building a better team and there will be 'important' signings but also players who can do a job in the short term. Sometimes I think we all expect every signing to be a top class player but whereas I thought 2 seasons ahead before last season started if there is a good team evolving it's going to 3 or 4 seasons and beyond that to become a genuinely big player in the game. So we need to be realistic about signings and look at the long term.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: pjk on July 21, 2018, 11:33:12 PM
Looks like it's close to being done. This lad's careful what he tweets. :)



https://twitter.com/dave_seed/status/1020670782702346240


Maybe he isn't careful enough about what he tweets! According to this, he's still in Austria. lolol



https://twitter.com/kieren_rees/status/1020701258020204545
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: dunkster on July 21, 2018, 11:35:32 PM
Oh dear
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: 74Blue on July 21, 2018, 11:36:54 PM
So Watford are demanding compensation for Silva. We want their best player, so agree to overpay a little to secure him. Suits everybody really. Player gets a move to a bigger club and probably a very healthy payrise, Everton get the player that they want and Watford can pacify the fans with the old "it was too good an offer to refuse and the player's head was already turned". Everybody walks away happy and there's no longer any need for the shenanigans around Everton tapping up their manager, so everybody saves face.
I have liked the look of Richarlison, although I have not seen a £50m player there. Hopefully, the add-ons are for shit like him scoring the winner in the next World Cup finals in Quatar and winning the Champions League with Everton. That way, if we have to pay the add-ons, he will have been well worth every penny.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Rodenplav64 on July 22, 2018, 12:13:12 AM
No other club would pay this sort of money for him . Everton will get rinsed once more .
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on July 22, 2018, 12:27:37 AM
Staff change yes.....anything different? obviously not, fucking joke.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on July 22, 2018, 12:29:45 AM
According to some dude on there it does, as it was an Insta Story (I feel so shallow typing that out... Iím off to watch Love Island then Iím going to an EDM night with rolled up t-shirt sleeves)

In a purely platonic way, you're awesome. Never change. One of the dryest, under the radar wittiest people on the site.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on July 22, 2018, 12:49:35 AM

Maybe he isn't careful enough about what he tweets! According to this, he's still in Austria. lolol



https://twitter.com/kieren_rees/status/1020701258020204545
The snidey twat at the back looks preferable..
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Brownie on July 22, 2018, 12:56:33 AM
The snidey twat at the back looks preferable..

That is him
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on July 22, 2018, 12:58:21 AM
That is him
I know mate....
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Brownie on July 22, 2018, 01:00:01 AM
I know mate....

Sorry, your post read like you thought the main guy in the pic was him
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: eugene on July 22, 2018, 01:00:21 AM
The snidey twat at the back looks preferable..
Thatís a relief cos the one in front needs a good slap
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on July 22, 2018, 01:03:06 AM
Sorry, your post read like you thought the main guy in the pic was him
No worries i was just being a bitter snidey cunt really, which isn't really like me usually, stayed in the pub too long this affy.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Juanito on July 22, 2018, 01:04:31 AM
According to some dude on there it does, as it was an Insta Story (I feel so shallow typing that out... Iím off to watch Love Island then Iím going to an EDM night with rolled up t-shirt sleeves)

Laugh out loud material there
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Toffee1 on July 22, 2018, 01:06:55 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5977737/Everton-agree-44m-deal-Watford-winger-Richarlison.html
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Cozzie on July 22, 2018, 01:09:32 AM
That's sound.

Medical on Monday then.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 22, 2018, 01:11:26 AM
According to some dude on there it does, as it was an Insta Story (I feel so shallow typing that out... Iím off to watch Love Island then Iím going to an EDM night with rolled up t-shirt sleeves)

You can upload a photo to an Instagram Story whenever you like. It's not live. I mean, it can be, but you can choose any photo from your camera roll and use it as your story whenever.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 22, 2018, 01:14:52 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5977737/Everton-agree-44m-deal-Watford-winger-Richarlison.html

That article covers quite a lot.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lincs Toffee on July 22, 2018, 01:22:09 AM
That article covers quite a lot.
Fingers crossed itís all true
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Cozzie on July 22, 2018, 01:25:39 AM
https://twitter.com/grahamdilly/status/1020575503126794240?s=20
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: pjk on July 22, 2018, 01:30:05 AM
The snidey twat at the back looks preferable..



That's him. He looks like he's telling Marco to give him a call. :)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on July 22, 2018, 01:35:34 AM


That's him. He looks like he's telling Marco to give him a call. :)
"help Marco they've got a gun, i wanted to run to you honest i did"
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 22, 2018, 01:51:24 AM
In a purely platonic way, you're awesome. Never change. One of the dryest, under the radar wittiest people on the site.


 :hug:

As are you, man.

In a purely platonic way, you and some of the others from here should come down for the Brighton game after Christmas.

Iím going to the match with my daughter, but Iím probably allowed out after to get platonically bladdered with a gaggle of Evertonians.. :cheers:

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 22, 2018, 01:53:04 AM
Thatís a relief cos the one in front needs a good slap

Yeah, Iíve just seen the one in the front at an EDM club night that Iím attending
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 22, 2018, 02:03:49 AM
You can upload a photo to an Instagram Story whenever you like. It's not live. I mean, it can be, but you can choose any photo from your camera roll and use it as your story whenever.

Hipster  ::)


 ;)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on July 22, 2018, 02:53:23 AM
Echo saying it's actually £35m rising to £40m.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-richarlison-watford-marco-silva-14937620
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Alanvideo on July 22, 2018, 02:53:23 AM
Echo now saying the initial fee is £35m rising to £40m .
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 22, 2018, 02:56:08 AM
Nice echo there.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 22, 2018, 02:57:25 AM
There, doesn't that feel better? Think that price is bang on.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Cozzie on July 22, 2018, 02:58:05 AM
That's about right for young potential from the prem these days.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: howard1334 on July 22, 2018, 02:58:55 AM
That price would still be a little high, but assuming (as some have suggested) it includes comp for Silva, I would be fine with it.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Cozzie on July 22, 2018, 02:59:06 AM
Funny the Watford fans reactions to this, some even reckon we will be relegated and end up like Villa and Leeds.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 22, 2018, 03:40:34 AM
Funny the Watford fans reactions to this, some even reckon we will be relegated and end up like Villa and Leeds.

Could even end up like Watford if weíre not careful.

Know your role in the football food chain.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: gizzblue on July 22, 2018, 03:53:31 AM
That price would still be a little high, but assuming (as some have suggested) it includes comp for Silva, I would be fine with it.

Good we were told Moshiri was waiting for you to agree to the deal  lolol
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Toddacelli on July 22, 2018, 06:37:36 AM
You can upload a photo to an Instagram Story whenever you like. It's not live. I mean, it can be, but you can choose any photo from your camera roll and use it as your story whenever.

And how do I do one of them there 'textings', young man?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 22, 2018, 07:00:06 AM
And how do I do one of them there 'textings', young man?
Dunno.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Toddacelli on July 22, 2018, 07:09:13 AM
Dunno.

This is proper pre-season behaviour though. Rumoured interest in a player and paper talks descends into a technical discussion of the available functions of a social media platform in an effort to prove or disprove the rumour - and achieves neither.

I'm putting my head in a box till Aug 11th!

😂
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Martip on July 22, 2018, 03:54:56 PM
At the reported 44m this still sitting badly with me. Just can't seem to get over no goals since November for that sort of money.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on July 22, 2018, 03:59:44 PM
At the reported 44m this still sitting badly with me. Just can't seem to get over no goals since November for that sort of money.

According to the Echo, which you would imagine is better sourced than the Mail (especially since it wasn't Paul Joyce with the Mail story), it's £35m rising to £40m. Sit any better?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Cassius on July 22, 2018, 04:00:19 PM
At the reported 44m this still sitting badly with me. Just can't seem to get over no goals since November for that sort of money.

I wouldn't let it bother you, kid. There's nothing you can do about it.

He'll come good again. He's young and new to the league and after joining Watford he'd come off the back of playing a full season and summer.

Think about it this way too, paying £35m for a 21 year old Brasilian winger is better long term business than paying £28m for a 28 year old Congolese winger.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Sixx1402 on July 22, 2018, 04:07:15 PM
According to the Echo, which you would imagine is better sourced than the Mail (especially since it wasn't Paul Joyce with the Mail story), it's £35m rising to £40m. Sit any better?

Still too much for me but that is way better than the original £50 mill touted so I can deal with it.

For me it kind of ties in with whether lookman is sold, if he goes for £20 mill or less I'll be nothing short of furious
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Trowel on July 22, 2018, 04:07:24 PM
I'm putting my head in a box till Aug 11th!

😂
(http://richardtoner.github.io/images/boxen-to-brew/whats-in-the-box.gif)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 22, 2018, 04:09:59 PM
Watford signed him for 12mil last season.

Considering how well he played for the first half of the season and how the market has inflated since then, 35mil is probably just about right.

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Rodenplav64 on July 22, 2018, 04:15:10 PM
Watford signed him for 12mil last season.

Considering how well he played for the first half of the season and how the market has inflated since then, 35mil is probably just about right.



He did not play well for half a season he played well for about a fifth of it . £24m would be about right and still too much .
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: gizzblue on July 22, 2018, 04:21:52 PM
Truly glad half you tightwads on here don't hold the purse strings for us .....we would never compete with anyone .

At the end of the day we only really lost money on Bolasie and Klassen (although the latter never got a chance really)...Keane would get us more than what we paid even today ....really not sure where all the paranoia over being pantsd comes from ......
oh yeah and let's not forget
IT'S NOT YOUR MONEY !

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Sixx1402 on July 22, 2018, 04:25:24 PM
He did not play well for half a season he played well for about a fifth of it . £24m would be about right and still too much .

I agree with you to an extent, I think he did only play well for a certain part of the season but I also think that £25m would be about right in today's market.

But we're hearing that the Watford compensation is included in this deal so when you look at it like that then £35m isn't too bad although I've no idea why we need to pay them compensation in the first place

Are Leipzig paying us compensation for blatantly tapping up lookman? No.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 22, 2018, 04:33:35 PM
If youíre quoting £25m as your valuation then I think you need to realise how out of touch you are with the modern game.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 22, 2018, 04:39:13 PM
Truly glad half you tightwads on here don't hold the purse strings for us .....we would never compete with anyone .

At the end of the day we only really lost money on Bolasie and Klassen (although the latter never got a chance really)...Keane would get us more than what we paid even today ....really not sure where all the paranoia over being pantsd comes from ......
oh yeah and let's not forget
IT'S NOT YOUR MONEY !



Sorry but if you think weíd get our money back on Keane youíre a lunatic. Who the fuck would pay 30m for him
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ramjam on July 22, 2018, 04:40:48 PM
Truly glad half you tightwads on here don't hold the purse strings for us .....we would never compete with anyone .

At the end of the day we only really lost money on Bolasie and Klassen (although the latter never got a chance really)...Keane would get us more than what we paid even today ....really not sure where all the paranoia over being pantsd comes from ......
oh yeah and let's not forget
IT'S NOT YOUR MONEY !
I donít think itís the transfer fees or valuation thatís the big problem, I would say itís the wages that we are blowing on a grand scale that everyone is more concerned about
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 22, 2018, 04:51:03 PM
We have the money so what's the problem?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 22, 2018, 04:52:49 PM
He did not play well for half a season he played well for about a fifth of it . £24m would be about right and still too much .

Have you bothered to look into any reason as to why his form tailed off?

Two very possible reasons.

1. The silva departure and playing under a manager who played a very pragmatic style of football not suited towards Richarlison.

2. He played 18 months straight football without any breaks, and had to adapt his body to the increasing demand of the premier league during that time. Very possible he was burnout as I donít recall him playing much towards the final third of the season.

Heís proven he can perform to a high standard in the premier league. Taking into account what Watford paid for him, his form in the first half of the season, his potential, inflation, i would say 35mil is just about right.

To use a comparison; Leicester have paid 25mil for James Maddison, a player who has never played premier league football. This is the market we are in today.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Silas on July 22, 2018, 04:53:31 PM
Sorry but if you think weíd get our money back on Keane youíre a lunatic. Who the fuck would pay 30m for him

Football is incredibly fickle though. A decent season and his valuation goes back up instantly
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 22, 2018, 04:55:16 PM
Football is incredibly fickle though. A decent season and his valuation goes back up instantly

I donít disagree with that but as things stand weíd get very little for him because of the size of his contract
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 22, 2018, 04:56:12 PM
I donít disagree with that but as things stand weíd get very little for him because of the size of his contract

If we were to sell him now weíd get at the very least 20mil for him.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 22, 2018, 05:09:50 PM
Fucking looneys out in full force today.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 22, 2018, 05:11:01 PM
If we were to sell him now weíd get at the very least 20mil for him.

Maybe but I can't imagine they'd be a huge list of interested parties who'd want to take over his contract

Also there is the issue that the market doubles and our players values reduce. In real terms they've been really poor signings almost across the board
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Mayor Farnum on July 22, 2018, 05:19:20 PM
If we sold Keane for 20 mill without him asking for a transfer we'd have to pay him a decent chunk of what's remaining on his contract. We'd probably actually see between ten and fifteen at the very most on a "20 mill sale".
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: gizzblue on July 22, 2018, 05:19:51 PM
Sorry but if you think weíd get our money back on Keane youíre a lunatic. Who the fuck would pay 30m for him

At the end of the day mate ..I know there is no talking to you ...you hate every squad member no one will ever be good enough or be good value(till they have left) ...so enjoy your Sunday .
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: gizzblue on July 22, 2018, 05:22:56 PM
I donít think itís the transfer fees or valuation thatís the big problem, I would say itís the wages that we are blowing on a grand scale that everyone is more concerned about

But again mate it's not our money or our worry in reality ....that's why we have a billionaire owner a new D.O.F manager and financial team ...I'm sure if they think it's ok well....... nod
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 22, 2018, 05:26:51 PM
At the end of the day mate ..I know there is no talking to you ...you hate every squad member no one will ever be good enough or be good value(till they have left) ...so enjoy your Sunday .

See thatís really not true. I donít like most of them because most of them havenít justified what we paid for them, what we pay them or in the case of some like DCL the ridiculous hype on here

I like Tosan. I donít mind Walcott. I love Coleman. I think Pickford had a very questionable season but was delighted at his performances in the World Cup. I loved Baines and Jagielka. Sigurdsson is a good footballer at a daft price and not really what was required. Lookman is potentially a great player. Iím extremely excited about the 2 we might sign from Barcelona

I might have missed someone but mainly the rest are a bit disappointing. I donít hate everyone. Iím actually not miserable about everything. Just most of it
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Sixx1402 on July 22, 2018, 05:28:00 PM
If youíre quoting £25m as your valuation then I think you need to realise how out of touch you are with the modern game.

You think so eh?

Ok well what would your valuation of him be then Mr Walsh?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 22, 2018, 05:29:05 PM
But again mate it's not our money or our worry in reality ....that's why we have a billionaire owner a new D.O.F manager and financial team ...I'm sure if they think it's ok well....... nod

They thought last seasons business was okay.
The money is finite. If we spend 50m on a 30m player thatís much worse for us fans than spending 50m on 2 bargain 30m players

Itís not our money argument is utter nonsense unless someone is saying we shouldnít be spending big regardless. People arenít saying that. They are saying they want value. That they want more for that money
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 22, 2018, 05:34:02 PM
Weíre paying over like you have to say.

But it sounds like weíre boxing off the Silva compo, have a load of performance related bonuses to beef it up...

And at the end of the day - weíre getting a young attacker on an apparent 6 year deal, who has a year in the prem where he by all rights should have scored about 10 goals, and for the period he was playing well was one of the best u21 players for g+a contribution in the top European leagues.

I get feeling a bit nervous about the fee, but I do think heís on he cusp of a potentially serious year. Everything beyond his raw goal and assist stats (which still would have been enough to put him as one of our best players despite the drop in form) points to a young player with unbelievable potential, prem physical abilities and frankly, I think you could pay 40m up front and be fairly confident of getting your money back inside the 6 year contract.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Silas on July 22, 2018, 05:37:52 PM
On the one hand people are kicking off at Lookmann potentially going for a measly 20 million because he's worth more but at 35 Richarlison is vastly overpriced?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Mayor Farnum on July 22, 2018, 05:41:47 PM
But again mate it's not our money or our worry in reality ....that's why we have a billionaire owner a new D.O.F manager and financial team ...I'm sure if they think it's ok well....... nod

Does the not our money argument hold when we sell players as well? We could get rid of Keane and Klassen tomorrow for 2 million a piece. 
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ramjam on July 22, 2018, 05:44:04 PM
If Richarlison scored another 8 or 10 between Christmas and the seasons end, the price would have been £60m so letís just agree that weíve got a good Brazilian striker/winger with potential to score 15/20 per season, it has to be a positive signing
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 22, 2018, 05:46:13 PM
On the one hand people are kicking off at Lookmann potentially going for a measly 20 million because he's worth more but at 35 Richarlison is vastly overpriced?

Plus half as much again in add ons and with a goals and assists record not much better than lookmans

I think the biggest issue for me is lookman. If we keep him too then itís hard not to be excited. Swap 1 for the other then how much are we really moving forwards. We need more great young talent
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Sixx1402 on July 22, 2018, 06:01:55 PM
Plus half as much again in add ons and with a goals and assists record not much better than lookmans

I think the biggest issue for me is lookman. If we keep him too then itís hard not to be excited. Swap 1 for the other then how much are we really moving forwards. We need more great young talent

This.

And as they are essentially the same player how is one worth double of the other? In what universe does that make any sense!

Neither has happened yet so this is just up for debate but if both deals go through at the prices quoted how does that make any kind of business sense?

Keep lookman and get Richarlison for £35m.....fair enough

Lose lookman for the QUOTED price (and yes I know it's just the rumoured asking price) of £20m....... ridiculous
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 22, 2018, 06:04:43 PM
You think so eh?

Ok well what would your valuation of him be then Mr Walsh?

Haha. Not my job to decide but I think an infant could look at the fee in context and see that £35m the going rate.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: gizzblue on July 22, 2018, 06:11:00 PM
Does the not our money argument hold when we sell players as well? We could get rid of Keane and Klassen tomorrow for 2 million a piece.

Course it does ....how much will you lose financially if we sell them at a loss?...sweet fa I'm guessing.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 22, 2018, 06:11:09 PM
And people keep missing the Silva pay off in all of this too. Not to mention Lookman has 3 years of his contract left and Richarlison has 4.

The price for Richarlison (and Silva pay off) is 35 rising to 40.

Lookman hasn't been sold yet either, so we don't even know the price yet.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Sixx1402 on July 22, 2018, 06:13:19 PM
Haha. Not my job to decide but I think an infant could look at the fee in context and see that £35m the going rate.

So if lookman goes for £20m which (admittedly apparently) is our asking price according to sources, is that cool?

Liverpool buy fabinho for the same price as Richarlison and west ham get Felipe Anderson for £35m, both who have had 2 or 3 good established seasons at top clubs unlike Richarlison and both whom have actually played for Brazil.....

Go and have a sit down in the infant's playground for a good 10 to 15 mins and have a think about it sir
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 22, 2018, 06:15:34 PM
This.

And as they are essentially the same player how is one worth double of the other? In what universe does that make any sense!

Neither has happened yet so this is just up for debate but if both deals go through at the prices quoted how does that make any kind of business sense?

Keep lookman and get Richarlison for £35m.....fair enough

Lose lookman for the QUOTED price (and yes I know it's just the rumoured asking price) of £20m....... ridiculous

How are they the same player
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 22, 2018, 06:17:22 PM
I'd like to see lookman stay and line up alongside or as direct competition for richarlison and Walcott
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: School of Science on July 22, 2018, 06:18:10 PM
So if lookman goes for £20m which (admittedly apparently) is our asking price according to sources, is that cool?

Liverpool buy fabinho for the same price as Richarlison and west ham get Felipe Anderson for £35m, both who have had 2 or 3 good established seasons at top clubs unlike Richarlison and both whom have actually played for Brazil.....

Go and have a sit down in the infant's playground for a good 10 to 15 mins and have a think about it sir

Was Fabinho £35m ?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: gizzblue on July 22, 2018, 06:18:29 PM
So if lookman goes for £20m which (admittedly apparently) is our asking price according to sources, is that cool?

Liverpool buy fabinho for the same price as Richarlison and west ham get Felipe Anderson for £35m, both who have had 2 or 3 good established seasons at top clubs unlike Richarlison and both whom have actually played for Brazil.....

Go and have a sit down in the infant's playground for a good 10 to 15 mins and have a think about it sir

West ham and Liverpool havnt included payments for tapping up a manager either .
or bought players off a team holding a bridge so to speak ....it's greasing the wheels money .
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ross on July 22, 2018, 06:20:55 PM
No chance £35m is the going rate.

So far thereís been 205 players bought by premier league clubs this summer, only 7 of them have been for £30m or more.

Itís a very big fee whichever way people want to slice or dice it.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Sixx1402 on July 22, 2018, 06:22:26 PM
How are they the same player

Similar age, same position, very similar attributes and both just had a good half a season in a good league

I'd say they were if not the same, very similar
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Sixx1402 on July 22, 2018, 06:23:33 PM
Was Fabinho £35m ?

£40m I heard?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 22, 2018, 06:26:49 PM
No chance £35m is the going rate.

So far thereís been 205 players bought by premier league clubs this summer, only 7 of them have been for £30m or more.

Itís a very big fee whichever way people want to slice or dice it.

Ok. Take off 10 mill for Silva (we were prepared to pay in excess of 15 mill remember).

Does 25 rising to 30 sound better then?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: School of Science on July 22, 2018, 06:27:01 PM
No chance £35m is the going rate.

So far thereís been 205 players bought by premier league clubs this summer, only 7 of them have been for £30m or more.

Itís a very big fee whichever way people want to slice or dice it.

For a young, up and coming Brazilian ( hmmm), skillfuller and pacy, just the type of player our slow and dreary team needs. We are paying for potential, like United did with Martial, with the plus fact he has premier league experience. For our accountants he has sell on value.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: School of Science on July 22, 2018, 06:27:55 PM
£40m I heard?

Plus add ons as well mate.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 22, 2018, 06:31:04 PM
Plus add ons as well mate.

Including add ons according to the echo.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Sixx1402 on July 22, 2018, 06:32:23 PM
Just to clarify, I have no real problem with paying £35m for Richarlison, I think it's a bit high but as it probably includes compensation to Watford then fine.

My problem will be if, if, IF we sell lookman for £20m or less. That will make the deal look ridiculous.

That's all I'm saying, and it's all speculation
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ross on July 22, 2018, 06:32:33 PM
Ok. Take off 10 mill for Silva (we were prepared to pay in excess of 15 mill remember).

Does 25 rising to 30 sound better then?

Donít believe the Silva thing for one second.

Firstly why would Brands, a DoF, whoís reputation lives and dies by buying a selling players for value risk paying an extremely high fee just to accommodate previous recruitment cock ups? And secondly why wouldnít Watford rather not keep the player and get the compensation if Everton are trying to back door it like that?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 22, 2018, 06:35:40 PM
Similar age, same position, very similar attributes and both just had a good half a season in a good league

I'd say they were if not the same, very similar

Similar sure but if weíre being very honest with ourselves, richarlison tearing up the prem for half a year is worth a great deal more then Lookman looking quite good in Germany for half a season.

I would back Lookman to have a season matching richarlison I really would, but richarlison the safer bet at this point. Plus heís bigger and stronger and maybe quicker so heís also less likely to lose value.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Goaljira on July 22, 2018, 06:36:13 PM
Donít believe the Silva thing for one second.

Firstly why would Brands, a DoF, whoís reputation lives and dies by buying a selling players for value risk paying an extremely high fee just to accommodate previous recruitment cock ups? And secondly why wouldnít Watford rather not keep the player and get the compensation if Everton are trying to back door it like that?

Because:
A) The player wants to play for Silva
B) Paying it seperately could be seen as admission of guilt, even if its mutually agreed
C) If they take it to court it could take ages, and then in the end they get less money than offered or the same money but its worth less because either transfer fees keep going up or sterling becomes worth less than sand after a no deal brexit.

Or, y'know, Brands thinks he's worth the £35m on a 6 year deal even without any side payment.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 22, 2018, 06:36:13 PM
Donít believe the Silva thing for one second.

Firstly why would Brands, a DoF, whoís reputation lives and dies by buying a selling players for value risk paying an extremely high fee just to accommodate previous recruitment cock ups? And secondly why wouldnít Watford rather not keep the player and get the compensation if Everton are trying to back door it like that?

Because previous recruitment cock ups still exist regardless of whether he is here or not. We would end up paying Watford some compensation regardless of whether we went for Richarlison or not.

Watford probably do want to keep the player in an ideal world.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 22, 2018, 06:37:24 PM
What would people say is a reasonable fee then?

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 22, 2018, 06:39:58 PM
What would people say is a reasonable fee then?



The way some are going on here, Watford should be paying us to take him.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Goaljira on July 22, 2018, 06:42:41 PM
What would people say is a reasonable fee then?

If it wasn't for the Lookman price rumours I don't think anyone would even blink at the £35m.

Same price as unproven Felipe Anderson, or what Malcom is costing Roma(Who being honest, 90% of us hadnt heard of before last week), or slightly more than half what City are paying for Mahrez, or 2/3 of the cost of an older Willian in the last year of his deal.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: gizzblue on July 22, 2018, 06:43:15 PM
What would people say is a reasonable fee then?

Some would say double the Arteta money easy

Others would make the spurs Enic international blush .

Id say it's about average .
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ross on July 22, 2018, 06:43:34 PM
Because:
A) The player wants to play for Silva
B) Paying it seperately could be seen as admission of guilt, even if its mutually agreed
C) If they take it to court it could take ages, and then in the end they get less money than offered or the same money but its worth less because either transfer fees keep going up or sterling becomes worth less than sand after a no deal brexit.

Not sure Watford care one way or another if Richarlison wants to play for Silva, why would they? They could sell him to anybody.

By paying it either way is an acknowledgment of guilt surely? Otherwise why pay it at all? Not like weíre a charity handing out cash.

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Sixx1402 on July 22, 2018, 06:45:27 PM
Similar sure but if weíre being very honest with ourselves, richarlison tearing up the prem for half a year is worth a great deal more then Lookman looking quite good in Germany for half a season.

I would back Lookman to have a season matching richarlison I really would, but richarlison the safer bet at this point. Plus heís bigger and stronger and maybe quicker so heís also less likely to lose value.

Yes but lookman is also English which increases his value here "but ok" I'll say fair enough.

Richarlison is currently probably the better prospect so yeah I'd say you're right on that
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Goaljira on July 22, 2018, 06:45:47 PM
Not sure Watford care one way or another if Richarlison wants to play for Silva, why would they? They could sell him to anybody.

By paying it either way is an acknowledgment of guilt surely? Otherwise why pay it at all? Not like weíre a charity handing out cash.

Because for all intents and purposes the paperwork will say the money is for the transfer of Richarlison, so there is no written proof of any admission.  Just suposition and nods and winks.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 22, 2018, 06:46:16 PM
Not sure Watford care one way or another if Richarlison wants to play for Silva, why would they? They could sell him to anybody.

By paying it either way is an acknowledgment of guilt surely? Otherwise why pay it at all? Not like weíre a charity handing out cash.



Silva and Brands want the player. Therefore we could either wait until the Silva mess is sorted and likely pay even more next summer for the player. Or we bite the bullet now, come to a compromise over the Silva thing and get him now.

I mean, it's not rocket science.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 22, 2018, 06:46:23 PM
Similar age, same position, very similar attributes and both just had a good half a season in a good league

I'd say they were if not the same, very similar

Quite different, actually.

Richarlison is bigger, stronger, faster, with far better defensive attributes, and a superior workrate.

Daft Punk.

Not you, the French Kraftwerk dudes in helmets.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 22, 2018, 06:47:58 PM
Yes but lookman is also English which increases his value here "but ok" I'll say fair enough.

Richarlison is currently probably the better prospect so yeah I'd say you're right on that

I'd be annoyed if we ended up selling Lookman for 20 mill. I think 25 is about what he is worth. Richarlison and Silva for 35 rising to 40 is the comparison.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Goaljira on July 22, 2018, 06:49:49 PM
And its not like this price has come out of thin air.  He's been linked with £40m moves to Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal, PSG and United since April
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Rodenplav64 on July 22, 2018, 06:50:24 PM
No chance £35m is the going rate.

So far there’s been 205 players bought by premier league clubs this summer, only 7 of them have been for £30m or more.

It’s a very big fee whichever way people want to slice or dice it.

People talk a load of shite about the going rate .
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Goaljira on July 22, 2018, 06:50:47 PM
I'd be annoyed if we ended up selling Lookman for 20 mill. I think 25 is about what he is worth. Richarlison and Silva for 35 rising to 40 is the comparison.

Exactly.  If thats all we get for Lookman then i'd be disappointed at that, but that doesnt make Richarlison worth any less.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Sixx1402 on July 22, 2018, 06:51:21 PM
I'd be annoyed if we ended up selling Lookman for 20 mill. I think 25 is about what he is worth. Richarlison and Silva for 35 rising to 40 is the comparison.

I'd be fine with that. Well ideally I want to keep lookman but if he wants to go I'd be fine with that deal
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 22, 2018, 06:51:40 PM
Ok. Take off 10 mill for Silva (we were prepared to pay in excess of 15 mill remember).

Does 25 rising to 30 sound better then?

Thatís extremely creative accountanting though. Most of us thought we owed them nowt

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on July 22, 2018, 06:52:23 PM
£35m for a 21 year old Brazilian winger with bags of potential and PL experience is about right imo.

Especially you think of what we paid for other players over the last 2 years and what the markets been like lately.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 22, 2018, 06:52:57 PM
I'd be fine with that. Well ideally I want to keep lookman but if he wants to go I'd be fine with that deal

Agreed. I'd like to see Lookman given a chance under a more progressive manager. I don't think he's done anything for us yet, but I'd be very happy with a trio of Walcott, Lookman and Richarlison as our three wingers to choose from.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Dr. Sponge on July 22, 2018, 06:53:23 PM
Heís only 21, heís not expected to be the finished article. If he had a fully consistent season last season, at the level he started at, then we wouldnít get anywhere near him. Heíd be goin to City or another title chasing team.

£50mil was a bit mental. £35mil sounds like a good price, considering the Premier League experience premium that we all pay.

No statistics are needed if youíve seen him play. He looks a real star.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 22, 2018, 06:53:56 PM
Thatís extremely creative accountanting though. Most of us thought we owed them nowt



What we think and what a tribunal would think are two different things.

I think deep down, we all expected us to compensate Watford in some way over the affair.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: 74Blue on July 22, 2018, 06:53:58 PM
Not sure Watford care one way or another if Richarlison wants to play for Silva, why would they? They could sell him to anybody.

By paying it either way is an acknowledgment of guilt surely? Otherwise why pay it at all? Not like weíre a charity handing out cash.


Doing it this way is a good solution for all parties. Watford can appease the fans by saying he wanted to go and they held out for the best price for him, whilst not having to take the gamble of dragging their compo claim through the courts where there os no guarantee that they would win anyway.
Everton get their man, albeit for an artificially inflated fee, and the compo claim just disappears without any further embarrassment.
The player gets a move to a bigger club and no doubt a healthy payrise.

Everybody wins!
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ross on July 22, 2018, 06:54:22 PM
And its not like this price has come out of thin air.  He's been linked with £40m moves to Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal, PSG and United since April

Exactly and none of them need to factor in Silva to the fee.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Sixx1402 on July 22, 2018, 06:56:08 PM
Quite different, actually.

Richarlison is bigger, stronger, faster, with far better defensive attributes, and a superior workrate.

Daft Punk.

Not you, the French Kraftwerk dudes in helmets.

I think lookman is faster than Richarlison but you may be right on the other ones.

To be fair I quite like Daft Punk

That song with the dogs head in the video is great, 'da funk'  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 22, 2018, 06:56:09 PM
Exactly and none of them need to factor in Silva to the fee.

So we come out ahead then if you take out the Silva factor.

If the fee being branded about was 40 and we got him for 40, and get the Silva stuff to go away, then we're ahead, aren't we?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ross on July 22, 2018, 06:56:48 PM
Doing it this way is a good solution for all parties. Watford can appease the fans by saying he wanted to go and they held out for the best price for him, whilst not having to take the gamble of dragging their compo claim through the courts where there os no guarantee that they would win anyway.
Everton get their man, albeit for an artificially inflated fee, and the compo claim just disappears without any further embarrassment.
The player gets a move to a bigger club and no doubt a healthy payrise.

Everybody wins!

As @Goaljira (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4051) has just pointed out heís been linked with other clubs previously for roughly the same amount without the secretly hidden compensation attached.

Itís just the fee Watford want and weíre prepared to pay.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Escla on July 22, 2018, 06:57:34 PM
If we were to sell him now weíd get at the very least 20mil for him.

Nearer to 25, England international untill we ruined him.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ross on July 22, 2018, 06:57:47 PM
So we come out ahead then if you take out the Silva factor.

If the fee being branded about was 40 and we got him for 40, and get the Silva stuff to go away, then we're ahead, aren't we?

If he proves his value.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Rodenplav64 on July 22, 2018, 06:59:41 PM
What would people say is a reasonable fee then?



No more than £24M . Anyone who thinks he is worth what we are paying based on last season , age and nationality alone can be doing so based solely on the Brands/Silva factor . If only the Koeman/Walsh factor hadn't drained me . The same people came out with same shite at the start of last season . My negativity was there then and until performances change for the better ( which I am hopeful more than confident of in the short term ) I remain worried to fuck by the money we have spunked on average players .
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 22, 2018, 06:59:45 PM
If he proves his value.

You can say that about every transfer and managerial appointment. It's all a gamble, but you minimize risk by buying quality, which we seem to be doing at last.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 22, 2018, 06:59:48 PM
I think the Silva pay off theory is a load of old horse crap.

If we still owed Watford, or they felt we still owed them compensation theyíd still be kicking up a stink about it. Itís how they roll.

Some folk canít seem to get their head around how much talent actual costs nowadays so so
Whoís need to factor in a mythical Silva pay off as some justification for the overall fee.

Come the end of the season weíll see £35m /£40m was a bargain.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 22, 2018, 06:59:51 PM
I think lookman is faster than Richarlison but you may be right on the other ones.

To be fair I quite like Daft Punk

That song with the dogs head in the video is great, 'da funk'  :thumbsup:

We should make them race.

Not Daft Punk and Kraftwerk (Daft Punk would batter them by virtue of youth)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 22, 2018, 06:59:52 PM
If he proves his value.

One decent season and weíre at least getting our money back should we sell him.

If he goes on to be a good player for us weíre doubling what we paid, again, should we sell him.

I feel like we could dig out the Pickford thread from last year and people are saying the same things as they are here.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 22, 2018, 07:04:04 PM
What we think and what a tribunal would think are two different things.

I think deep down, we all expected us to compensate Watford in some way over the affair.

Honestly I didnít expect to give them anything. Who knows though.

Thereís a lot of unknowns in this deal. The silva issue and what the add ons are for/ then the question of  is his early season form or the rest his normal level

Time will tell. If he does a full season like he started the last heíll be a fantastic bargain. People are more worried about lookmans price in relation than his price against the market
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 22, 2018, 07:05:19 PM
I think the Silva pay off theory is a load of old horse crap.

If we still owed Watford, or they felt we still owed them compensation theyíd still be kicking up a stink about it. Itís how they roll.

Some folk canít seem to get their head around how much talent actual costs nowadays so so
Whoís need to factor in a mythical Silva pay off as some justification for the overall fee.

Come the end of the season weíll see £35m /£40m was a bargain.

Maybe, maybe not.

I'm really happy with this signing regardless. It's been a long time since we signed someone with a bit of flair and strength. Makes our front line very pacy now. I don't think we're going to lose money on this signing and it's the type of signing we should be making more of.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on July 22, 2018, 07:06:11 PM
My take on the 'not our money' discussion is this:

Obviously money does matter, and value for money does matter and it can affect the club's performance now and in the future. But none of us know the financial situation at the club, or have access to the accounts. People are employed and well paid to do that. The vast majority of us aren't accountants, and presumably didn't start following football to worry about the financial side of the business, so really what is the actual point in caring too much about any of that, when we don't know the financial backdrop of what we're talking about.

Ok, we can have opinions on the valuation of a player, but really it means fuck all to anyone. People are entrusted to look after that side of things and if they deem a particular fee to be right for a particular player, then so be it. It's all so incredibly boring talking about fees for players, when none of us have the foggiest what we're talking about or what the financial situation at the club is.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 22, 2018, 07:07:12 PM
Honestly I didnít expect to give them anything. Who knows though.

Thereís a lot of unknowns in this deal. The silva issue and what the add ons are for/ then the question of  is his early season form or the rest his normal level

Time will tell. If he does a full season like he started the last heíll be a fantastic bargain. People are more worried about lookmans price in relation than his price against the market

They are. But even then, there's differences between the two players.

Firstly, Lookman has done nothing in the Prem as yet. Richarlison has.

Secondly, Lookman has three years left on his contract, Richarlison has 4.

Thirdly, no value has actually been officially set on Lookman anyway.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Dr. Sponge on July 22, 2018, 07:12:30 PM
If we end up landing Richarlson and Digne, and add them to our other top players - Pickford, Coleman and Sigurdson, then we all of a sudden look a lot stronger.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Sixx1402 on July 22, 2018, 07:15:36 PM
We should make them race.

Not Daft Punk and Kraftwerk (Daft Punk would batter them by virtue of youth)

Yeah but if Daft Punk had to wear the dogs head helmets it may be closer than you think......
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 22, 2018, 07:18:34 PM
To be honest after the original 50m thatís a stupid price thought. I really donít give a fuck. Keep lookman. He keeps his form from Germany. Silva gets Richarlison playing to his early season form again. Pickford kicks on. Tosan carries on scoring. Least weíve got a few who we can all get behind then. Maybe the 2 from Barca too.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 22, 2018, 07:22:36 PM
People talk a load of shite about the going rate .

He idea of a going rate is a bit weird now isnít it because it seems totally dependant on stuff like who is buying off who.

Itís a weird sort of Ďhow much would it take to get x off yí question because what you get varies so wildly, particularly in the prem.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: gizzblue on July 22, 2018, 07:23:48 PM
To be honest after the original 50m thatís a stupid price thought. I really donít give a fuck. Keep lookman. He keeps his form from Germany. Silva gets Richarlison playing to his early season form again. Pickford kicks on. Tosan carries on scoring. Least weíve got a few who we can all get behind then. Maybe the 2 from Barca too.

That's the spirit mate  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 22, 2018, 07:29:24 PM
That's the spirit mate  :thumbsup:

Haha see Iím jolly as fuck. Theyíve all got 45 minutes grace though
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 22, 2018, 07:30:18 PM
Haha see Iím jolly as fuck. Theyíve all got 45 minutes grace though

lol
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 22, 2018, 07:45:07 PM
How are they the same player

I can only think of one way. Itís pretty common though.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 22, 2018, 07:55:05 PM
I can only think of one way. Itís pretty common though.

I think he means more young potentially great wingers who only have a small amount of great form to go off. Rather than black
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 22, 2018, 07:58:25 PM
Yeah but if Daft Punk had to wear the dogs head helmets it may be closer than you think......

True dat
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on July 22, 2018, 08:00:22 PM
I think he means more young potentially great wingers who only have a small amount of great form to go off. Rather than black

Yeah I didn't think anything racial about the comment. I think he meant more that they are both right footed players who play on the left of the attack, cutting in.

Totally different builds like, so they are quite different in how they go about things.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 22, 2018, 08:03:19 PM
Yeah I didn't think anything racial about the comment. I think he meant more that they are both right footed players who play on the left of the attack, cutting in.

Totally different builds like, so they are quite different in how they go about things.

Yup, I took issue only with that in terms of where they are with their careers in spite of similarities they are a way apart imo.

Can only imagine what we would think Lookman is worth had we seen him do some of the stuff for us richarlison has done in this league with watford.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Rodenplav64 on July 22, 2018, 08:50:55 PM
My take on the 'not our money' discussion is this:

Obviously money does matter, and value for money does matter and it can affect the club's performance now and in the future. But none of us know the financial situation at the club, or have access to the accounts. People are employed and well paid to do that. The vast majority of us aren't accountants, and presumably didn't start following football to worry about the financial side of the business, so really what is the actual point in caring too much about any of that, when we don't know the financial backdrop of what we're talking about.

Ok, we can have opinions on the valuation of a player, but really it means fuck all to anyone. People are entrusted to look after that side of things and if they deem a particular fee to be right for a particular player, then so be it. It's all so incredibly boring talking about fees for players, when none of us have the foggiest what we're talking about or what the financial situation at the club is.

Other Peoples Money : The Real Business Of Finance by John Kay .
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on July 22, 2018, 08:55:31 PM
Haha see Iím jolly as fuck. Theyíve all got 45 minutes grace though
Think your overall assessment is fair as fuck, because we haven't half bought some shite...hopefully that's over..
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 22, 2018, 09:38:35 PM
https://twitter.com/ALANMYERSMEDIA/status/1021041344230445056?s=20
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Audrey Horne on July 22, 2018, 10:05:57 PM
https://twitter.com/ALANMYERSMEDIA/status/1021041344230445056?s=20

does he really know anything? not so sure myself.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Waltzer on July 22, 2018, 10:15:00 PM
Its on Sky now saying they expect the medical in the next 24 hours. Looking good
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 22, 2018, 10:27:11 PM
does he really know anything? not so sure myself.

God knows.

He hangs about the club, though, and he did chat to Silva, although he admitted he was Ďtightlippedí
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: School of Science on July 22, 2018, 10:32:10 PM
Including add ons according to the echo.

Sorry Blarg I was talking about Fabinho there, or I should have been. Richarlson is £35m plus add-ons.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 22, 2018, 10:34:54 PM
Sorry Blarg I was talking about Fabinho there, or I should have been. Richarlson is £35m plus add-ons.
No worries, I may not have read your post clearly myself.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Big Nev on July 22, 2018, 10:35:58 PM
My take on the 'not our money' discussion is this:

Obviously money does matter, and value for money does matter and it can affect the club's performance now and in the future. But none of us know the financial situation at the club, or have access to the accounts. People are employed and well paid to do that. The vast majority of us aren't accountants, and presumably didn't start following football to worry about the financial side of the business, so really what is the actual point in caring too much about any of that, when we don't know the financial backdrop of what we're talking about.

Ok, we can have opinions on the valuation of a player, but really it means fuck all to anyone. People are entrusted to look after that side of things and if they deem a particular fee to be right for a particular player, then so be it. It's all so incredibly boring talking about fees for players, when none of us have the foggiest what we're talking about or what the financial situation at the club is.

Was thinking exactly this when reading the thread. I've been shot down before on here, but IMO I just support whoever is on the pitch, unless they show absolutely no passion or drive.
I know nothing about the finances of football and if those that know want to pay £50mill, £40mill or 10p that's totally up to them.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Toffee_4_Life on July 22, 2018, 10:44:12 PM
Sky seem to have the Ďsourcesí to say a medical within 24hrs but still quote the price as £50 Mill. Are they intent on making us seem like overspending or just insistent on sticking to the fee from their original story last week?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 22, 2018, 10:49:39 PM
I think Watford are the ones feeding this to sky.

Bascombe and the fella who originally broke it have said itís potentially 40mil and that will do for me.

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 22, 2018, 10:59:55 PM
Plus the bigger the fee the bigger the headline. More shite to spout.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 22, 2018, 11:03:40 PM

Good watch if you want to smash up your computer screen.

What a crock of shite.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 22, 2018, 11:17:51 PM

Good watch if you want to smash up your computer screen.

What a crock of shite.

Who are those numpties and why were they laughing at the "drive him there myself" joke that has been around for decades?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: howard1334 on July 22, 2018, 11:21:04 PM
Who are those numpties and why were they laughing at the "drive him there myself" joke that has been around for decades?

The ESPN FC crew is a bit embarrassing at times. I have watched them quite a bit, and they talk shit all the time. It is especially bad when they offer their opinions on clubs outside of the perennial powerhouses. Listening to them, I often think that they don't even watch any Prem matches without a top six team playing. Their takes re: Everton tend to be particularly bad.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Cassius on July 22, 2018, 11:25:31 PM
Fucks sake though, it's not £50m. It's lazy punditry from a bunch of dicks.

Although I can see from the outside it being seen as a waste of money and a continuation of our silly spending from last year. But it's not £50m and £35m with addons for a 21 year old attacker with potential is probably at best £5-10m overpriced, which is probably the Watford/Silva tax.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 22, 2018, 11:25:50 PM
The ESPN FC crew is a bit embarrassing at times. I have watched them quite a bit, and they talk shit all the time. It is especially bad when they offer their opinions on clubs outside of the perennial powerhouses. Listening to them, I often think that they don't even watch any Prem matches without a top six team playing. Their takes re: Everton tend to be particularly bad.

Exactly the same as our pundits in England, then
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: howard1334 on July 22, 2018, 11:28:53 PM
Fucks sake though, it's not £50m. It's lazy punditry from a bunch of dicks.

Although I can see from the outside it being seen as a waste of money and a continuation of our silly spending from last year. But it's not £50m and £35m with addons for a 21 year old attacker with potential is probably at best £5-10m overpriced, which is probably the Watford/Silva tax.

In their defense, that video came out early yesterday when 50m was still being bandied about. But either way, yeah, this punditry is just lazy, not really considering any other factors at play than the purported 50m price. You would think that actual football pundits would consider discussing addons and such.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: American Evertonian on July 22, 2018, 11:30:19 PM
The ESPN FC crew is a bit embarrassing at times. I have watched them quite a bit, and they talk shit all the time. It is especially bad when they offer their opinions on clubs outside of the perennial powerhouses. Listening to them, I often think that they don't even watch any Prem matches without a top six team playing. Their takes re: Everton tend to be particularly bad.

The only one there that I ever find myself adding with is Shaka Hislop
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: howard1334 on July 22, 2018, 11:31:08 PM
The only one there that I ever find myself adding with is Shaka Hislop

Yeah, I think Shaka is pretty good, though his disdain for Lukaku is a bit much at times, even now when I care much less about Lukaku.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on July 22, 2018, 11:31:15 PM
The ESPN FC crew is a bit embarrassing at times. I have watched them quite a bit, and they talk shit all the time. It is especially bad when they offer their opinions on clubs outside of the perennial powerhouses. Listening to them, I often think that they don't even watch any Prem matches without a top six team playing. Their takes re: Everton tend to be particularly bad.

Load of old has-been, back in my day merchants like Steve Nicol. Proper bellends the lot of them. Marcotti's the only decent one, and he always looks faintly embarrassed to be working with those people.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: howard1334 on July 22, 2018, 11:36:38 PM
Load of old has-been, back in my day merchants like Steve Nicol. Proper bellends the lot of them. Marcotti's the only decent one, and he always looks faintly embarrassed to be working with those people.

I spoke with Marcotti briefly while at a Barcelona v. Juventus preseason match last year. Was really friendly and talked to me for a few minutes about Neymar's possible transfer to PSG. Seemed like a genuinely nice guy.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 22, 2018, 11:50:40 PM
Richarlison to Everton isn't one we would normally talk about.

Fucking don't then
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 23, 2018, 12:02:55 AM
Richarlison to Everton isn't one we would normally talk about.

Fucking don't then

I think that sums it up. They wouldnít normally talk about what is a decent sized story even without the fee. Also theyíd happily sell him for half? They really wouldnít. A Norwich player went for that
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 23, 2018, 12:24:53 AM
They need to pump it up to £50m so that £66m for a goalkeeper for the shite doesnít seem so bad....
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Dr. Sponge on July 23, 2018, 12:25:40 AM

Good watch if you want to smash up your computer screen.

What a crock of shite.

ďI think Steve Walsh has leftĒ

What a shit pundit.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Goaljira on July 23, 2018, 12:47:53 AM
Sky seem to have the Ďsourcesí to say a medical within 24hrs but still quote the price as £50 Mill. Are they intent on making us seem like overspending or just insistent on sticking to the fee from their original story last week?

It helps them on deadline day when they're totalling up to theIR 'EPL CLUBS SPEND 18 BILLION EURO POUNDS'.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: School of Science on July 23, 2018, 01:06:32 AM
Richarlison to Everton isn't one we would normally talk about.

Fucking don't then

Don't worry and I can guarantee, that if Richarlson smashes it this season, the same whoppers will be linking him to Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal etc and what a great player he is.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 23, 2018, 01:09:08 AM
Talksport here going on like weíre dropping down 50mil outright.

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Robber Rodwell on July 23, 2018, 01:16:38 AM
If this signing is confirmed, is he a direct replacement for Bolassie or can they operate in multiple positions?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on July 23, 2018, 01:31:50 AM
I would imagine Richarlison will play in the left winger position in a 4–3-3, probably with Walcott as right winger and Tosun as a target spearhead at the tip. The central 3, at the moment will probably be dynamic, with Sigurdsson central attack, and Schneiderlin and Gueye more defensive mid, switching between a 4-1-2-3 and a 4-2-1-3 depending on our situation/opposition. Our back, as a hopeful example will be a flat back 4 of say Digne, Mina, Jags and Coleman, with full backs allowed to sensibly overlap with wingers, due to the dynamic more disciplined centra mid 3 covering intelligently due to Silva drumming actual tactics and positional awareness into players. The side will be very different with pacey wingers and a solid back 4.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 23, 2018, 01:36:38 AM
Talksport here going on like weíre dropping down 50mil outright.



Course they are, Redshite Radio
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 23, 2018, 01:37:59 AM
I would imagine Richarlison will play in the lef winger position in a 4Ė3-3, probably with Walcott as right winger and Tosun as a target spearhead at the tip. The central 3, at the moment will probably be dynamic, with Sigurdsson central attack, and Schneiderlin and Gueye more defensive mid, switching between a 4-1-2-3 and a 4-2-1-3 depending on our situation/opposition. Our back, as a hopeful example will be a flat back 4 of say Digne, Mina, Jags and Coleman, with full backs allowed to sensibly overlap with wingers, due to the dynamic more disciplined centra mid 3 covering intelligently due to Silva drumming actual tactics and positional awareness into players. The side will be very different with pacey wingers and a solid back 4.

Schneiderlin and Gueye have looked abysmal together for some time.

Maybe it was who they were being coached by, but Iím dubious they will ever be effective together.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: GLewis on July 23, 2018, 01:40:05 AM
Schneiderlin and Gueye have looked abysmal together for some time.

Maybe it was who they were being coached by, but Iím dubious they will ever be effective together.

Silva clearly thinks that Schneiderlin works best on his own.

If Gueye is there too heíll be pushed higher up the pitch...
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Sixx1402 on July 23, 2018, 01:40:49 AM
Schneiderlin and Gueye have looked abysmal together for some time.

Maybe it was who they were being coached by, but Iím dubious they will ever be effective together.

If Besic can continue how he looked yesterday he might work alongside Gueye.

That's a big if though
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 23, 2018, 01:41:49 AM
Silva clearly thinks that Schneiderlin works best on his own.

If Gueye is there too heíll be pushed higher up the pitch...

Yeah exactly, which as we all know ends in shite
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: GLewis on July 23, 2018, 01:47:56 AM
Yeah exactly, which as we all know ends in shite

Hmm

As you say though Iíd have more confidence with a more aggressive approach and more people further forward.

Iíve always felt that he should develop himself as a carrier.

Heís mobile enough to be the player who just runs the ball up to the other end of the pitch - he should then just do a simple off load (but for that you need options).
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on July 23, 2018, 01:48:13 AM
NíZonzi would be nice as a 1 in front of the back 4, then someone like a Doucoure or Loftus Cheek alongside Sigurdsson as the 2 in front of him, supplying a stretching front 3. Until we get new players we will probably have the same 3. Besic did great the other day, and Id like to see him get a chance, but I dont think he will be the answer.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 23, 2018, 01:51:24 AM
Hmm

As you say though Iíd have more confidence with a more aggressive approach and more people further forward.

Iíve always felt that he should develop himself as a carrier.

Heís mobile enough to be the player who just runs the ball up to the other end of the pitch - he should then just do a simple off load (but for that you need options).

This is true, and often the options to offload the ball have been poor, due to a pragmatic, minimal men committed upfield approach, and little to no movement from teammates
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 23, 2018, 02:18:13 AM
Hmm

As you say though Iíd have more confidence with a more aggressive approach and more people further forward.

Iíve always felt that he should develop himself as a carrier.

Heís mobile enough to be the player who just runs the ball up to the other end of the pitch - he should then just do a simple off load (but for that you need options).

If you look at his dribble numbers for Villa compared to us itís miles off - obviously some tactical reason why but maybe capable.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on July 23, 2018, 02:31:16 AM
https://www.101greatgoals.com/news/richarlisons-move-from-watford-to-everton-confirmed-in-brazil/
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: American Evertonian on July 23, 2018, 04:15:53 AM
Fair. Nichols, Burnley, and Moreno only know about the top 6 and otherwise are clueless
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 23, 2018, 03:33:35 PM
Quote from: Sam Allardyce
Everybodyís seen the drop off since Mario (sic) Silva left Watford, or maybe even before then.
I think that he has seen him first hand and worked with him on a daily basis so he is backing his own judgement.
What I would say to be careful about though is, if you say you are buying potential, Everton fans do not want potential.
They want the absolute first-class player now to play now and to beat and try and rival their big rivals down the road and try and get into Europe. If youíre buying Richarlison now as a future player, thatís not what Everton fans want to see at the moment. They want to see them fighting with the best and up there with the top four.


Now, i actually appreciate what he is saying here, and he isn't technically wrong really. It also does show what he wanted for us - to compete immediately.

But it does show that he just, on a very fundamental level, didn't get us. Also, he underestimates our intelligence and footballing nouse.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 23, 2018, 03:57:38 PM
He's having his medical now
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ramjam on July 23, 2018, 04:01:14 PM
He's having his medical now
Drop them, bend over and pull them apart, cough.

Ok good what squad number would you like?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: mikey_blue on July 23, 2018, 04:11:54 PM
Sky still running with the 50m price tag. Really hope we can shave a few quid of that lol.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 23, 2018, 04:13:19 PM
https://twitter.com/EvertonBlueArmy/status/1021321329474228225?s=20
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lxxx on July 23, 2018, 04:16:57 PM
Sky still running with the 50m price tag. Really hope we can shave a few quid of that lol.

Sky like big numbers, makes good headlines. Doesn't really matter if they're accurate or not.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on July 23, 2018, 04:23:37 PM
Daily Post just said 40 million, which is probably something like 30 million + 10 million add ons/appearances. Which I guess is pretty reasonable considering. Digne looking closer, but the one I want is Mina or another quality commanding centre back.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: D15TIN on July 23, 2018, 04:37:51 PM
Marco Silva on transfers: ďWe lost one or two targets to major clubs.  We need four or five players. There are two possibilities. I will not hide. These are strong hypotheses. Richarlison is an excellent player and Lucas Digne is not by chance where he is.Ē (Source: Sport TV) https://t.co/EZbeh5yFdv
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: D15TIN on July 23, 2018, 04:50:37 PM
Richarlison today
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lazarou on July 23, 2018, 04:56:55 PM
Richarlison today

(https://i.imgur.com/MeE2jdIm.jpg)

"Shite I forgot to put my watch on"
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Waltzer on July 23, 2018, 04:57:45 PM
Richarlison today

FFS I knew I should've waited until the end of the transfer window before ordering my sons top with Walcott on the back, hes gonna love watching Richarlison!!
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Waltzer on July 23, 2018, 04:59:28 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/MeE2jdI.jpg)

"Shite I forgot to put my watch on"

TBF he looks in pain, maybe we can exaggerate a wrist injury and get the price reduced, remember it kept Niasse out for a few months when he signed......
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 23, 2018, 04:59:53 PM
By my work that.

Going to wait outside and boo him as he comes out. Get him ready for the Goodison atmosphere.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Gash on July 23, 2018, 05:03:02 PM
Richarlison today

Mate, just post a link in one thread, you don't need to post the same link in multiple threads.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 23, 2018, 05:04:13 PM
Regarding fees and seeing different amounts:

There have been a few reports & articles that explain this from time to time.
going off what actual agents, managers and their ilk have said in the past:

£50m will be the figure touted by Watford and what the press use as it is more sensational. It will be a true figure based on overall cost.
That cost will include agent fees, any sell-on clauses Watford will have to pay to the previous club, signing-on fees, loyalty bonuses to the player, amortised payments for the remaining fee due.

The £35m will be the figure touted by Everton and it will be the bare bones payment that we have to pay (i.e. we have to pay Watford the £5.8m per year for 6 years, regardless of anything else except if we sell him)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lazarou on July 23, 2018, 05:07:21 PM
By my work that.

Going to wait outside and boo him as he comes out. Get him ready for the Goodison atmosphere.

Just hope that we can give him, the team, the manager and the new style of play time to bed in. Lets just stick to giving the opposition shit.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Sixx1402 on July 23, 2018, 05:11:44 PM
http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/16371286.marco-silva-everton-still-to-pay-watford-compensation-for-former-head-coach/

Hmmm......
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: toshyboy on July 23, 2018, 05:51:57 PM
Marco Silva on transfers: "We lost one or two targets to major clubs.  We need four or five players. There are two possibilities. I will not hide. These are strong hypotheses. Richarlison is an excellent player and Lucas Digne is not by chance where he is.Ē (Source: Sport TV) https://t.co/EZbeh5yFdv

Wonder who we missed out on
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 23, 2018, 05:53:43 PM
Wonder who we missed out on

Yeah, the first part of that quote was moer interesting to me than the second part (obviously i musty be a pessimist!)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ramjam on July 23, 2018, 05:54:16 PM
Wonder who we missed out on
Donít know but I think it was that lad that went to juve, to old anyway
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Waltzer on July 23, 2018, 05:55:46 PM
Wonder who we missed out on

Assuming one of them was Malcom?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Cereal Killer on July 23, 2018, 05:58:22 PM
Assuming one of them was Malcom?

Wilshere  lolol
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on July 23, 2018, 06:28:51 PM
Malcom and Carvalho  :-\
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bigstickytoffee on July 23, 2018, 06:30:09 PM
Wonder who we missed out on

Carvalho? Good result if so.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 23, 2018, 06:30:27 PM
http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/16371286.marco-silva-everton-still-to-pay-watford-compensation-for-former-head-coach/

Hmmm......

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/richarlison-transfer-everton-paying-inflated-12960626

"Evertonís club record £50million move for Brazilian star Richarlison includes a Ďpeace dealí with Watford over new boss Marco Silva."

Who the hell knows. I hope the fee does include that though and everyone can move on.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Sixx1402 on July 23, 2018, 06:38:43 PM
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/richarlison-transfer-everton-paying-inflated-12960626

"Evertonís club record £50million move for Brazilian star Richarlison includes a Ďpeace dealí with Watford over new boss Marco Silva."

Who the hell knows. I hope the fee does include that though and everyone can move on.

I don't even care anymore, just buy him and try and keep Lookman  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on July 23, 2018, 06:40:45 PM
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/richarlison-transfer-everton-paying-inflated-12960626

"Evertonís club record £50million move for Brazilian star Richarlison includes a Ďpeace dealí with Watford over new boss Marco Silva."

Who the hell knows. I hope the fee does include that though and everyone can move on.

John Richardson doesn't know anything. That's a certainty.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 23, 2018, 06:56:05 PM
John Richardson doesn't know anything. That's a certainty.

The final sentence highlights his knowledge.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on July 23, 2018, 07:01:43 PM
The final sentence highlights his knowledge.

Yeah I know him and have seen him on a load of things over the years. He's a bumbling, old fool who doesn't even know the names of players who play for the club he supports. He's very much from the old school of tabloid journalists. When he used to appear on Sunday Supplement, people just talked over him and he was treated like 'ok John, let the adults talk now'.

He often comes out with a story about 3/4 days after the story has been written by journalists who actually have sources and knowledge, and then he essentially copies and pastes their information into his own article and passes it off as his own work.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: gizzblue on July 23, 2018, 07:02:05 PM
So Sam Allardyce says we don't want Richarlson we want the ready made article .....funny I havnt seen one post on here saying we don't want him (couple of purse stringers moaning about finamces)....and yet again more proof he hasn't got a "blue" clue about us or what we want ....
as for finished articles ,most of us would have prefered Lookman to stay and Bolasie being loaned last season .... again back to the "blue" clue about what Everton want. 
 lolol
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 23, 2018, 07:15:56 PM
Don't you just love it when Evertonians try to wind each other up

https://twitter.com/EFCFansCorner_/status/1021356197956419585
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blue slug on July 23, 2018, 07:21:04 PM
Don't you just love it when Evertonians try to wind each other up

https://twitter.com/EFCFansCorner_/status/1021356197956419585

Failed medical on loss of timepiece
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 23, 2018, 08:05:53 PM
Don't you just love it when Evertonians try to wind each other up

https://twitter.com/EFCFansCorner_/status/1021356197956419585

EFC Dan is clearly a bit of a boring bellend
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on July 23, 2018, 08:06:35 PM
EFC Dan is clearly a bit of a boring bellend

That was my take too.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 23, 2018, 08:12:40 PM
That was my take too.

I also thought Ďcuntí
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 23, 2018, 08:12:41 PM
EFC Dan is clearly a bit of a boring bellend

Yep, loves the attention, would probably murder a child for a retweet
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: 74Blue on July 23, 2018, 09:54:13 PM
TBF he looks in pain, maybe we can exaggerate a wrist injury and get the price reduced, remember it kept Niasse out for a few months when he signed......
He's probably been wanking himself silly over the hefty pay rise he's about to receive.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Fynci on July 23, 2018, 10:50:43 PM
Wonder who we missed out on

Fearfully I think Mina will be a no go.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: D15TIN on July 23, 2018, 11:02:45 PM
Fearfully I think Mina will be a no go.
Think itll happen that tbh barca need to make room, Richarlison, Digne and Mina will come in I think - really need a top CM - would be happy with RLC even if on loan for now
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: D15TIN on July 23, 2018, 11:20:25 PM
Just been told Richarlison played like 70 odd games consecutively from the Brazilian league ending, to joining Watford, had no rest - no wonder his form suffered, must be knackered.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 23, 2018, 11:20:50 PM
Edit - nothing to see here
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Gash on July 23, 2018, 11:23:23 PM
Edit - nothing to see here

Nice edit. You plum!  :snigger:
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 23, 2018, 11:24:06 PM
Nice edit. You plum!  :snigger:

Shush, nobody noticed  :blush:
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Tinga on July 23, 2018, 11:24:29 PM
Just been told Richarlison played like 70 odd games consecutively from the Brazilian league ending, to joining Watford, had no rest - no wonder his form suffered, must be knackered.

He also missed his dad.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 23, 2018, 11:51:25 PM
Just been told Richarlison played like 70 odd games consecutively from the Brazilian league ending, to joining Watford, had no rest - no wonder his form suffered, must be knackered.

Jesus over 4 days straight? He must have been ready for bed
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Tinga on July 24, 2018, 01:15:02 AM
Monday eh
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 24, 2018, 01:20:49 AM
It's pretty obvious we're gonna announce this fella on Wednesday with Mina and Digne
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: D15TIN on July 24, 2018, 01:36:14 AM
It's pretty obvious we're gonna announce this fella on Wednesday with Mina and Digne
Silva and the rest of the team weren't in today, so could be just tomorrow morning announcement with Silva etc there, Everton will milk it - record signing etc
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Brownie on July 24, 2018, 01:40:36 AM
Silva and the rest of the team weren't in today, so could be just tomorrow morning announcement with Silva etc there, Everton will milk it - record signing etc

Won't be record signing if it's £35m though
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: D15TIN on July 24, 2018, 01:44:48 AM
Won't be record signing if it's £35m though
Pickford wasn't 30 mill upfront etc, don't think any transfer is ever the full amount upfront - Everton will go announce it as a deal that could reach 50million probably
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on July 24, 2018, 01:47:18 AM
O'Keefe said it'll be sorted within 24 hours, earlier today, so tonight or tomorrow at some point.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: dunkster on July 24, 2018, 01:47:57 AM
If it potentially includes a settling of the silva compensation thing, it may never truelly be published at what price both clubs agreed the player was worth.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Brownie on July 24, 2018, 01:50:12 AM
Pickford wasn't 30 mill upfront etc, don't think any transfer is ever the full amount upfront - Everton will go announce it as a deal that could reach 50million probably

Yeah but even with the addons of up to £40m (according to the usual Everton journos on twitter like Joyce) it's still not as much as Sigurdsson's fee. Unless of course it is £50m
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: GLewis on July 24, 2018, 01:54:22 AM
Still itís a big fee and first signing of the new regime.

Likely to want to do photos etc
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 24, 2018, 02:03:09 AM
Maybe the photographer got double booked for a wedding or something?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 24, 2018, 02:06:27 AM
Love a good unveiling.

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Brownie on July 24, 2018, 02:10:24 AM
Love a good unveiling.



Saucy
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 24, 2018, 02:50:02 AM
Medical passed

https://twitter.com/LivEchoEFC/status/1021481348480086016
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: pjk on July 24, 2018, 03:05:21 AM
https://twitter.com/ALANMYERSMEDIA/status/1021483449788579842
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Cassius on July 24, 2018, 03:15:56 AM
I'm hearing that Richarlison has passed his medical and will put the finishing touches to the deal in the morning.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Sixx1402 on July 24, 2018, 03:19:08 AM
I'm hearing that Richarlison has.....oh nevermind
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: eugene on July 24, 2018, 03:19:08 AM
I'm hearing that Richarlison has passed his medical and will put the finishing touches to the deal in the morning.
To the deal or are they waiting for better light for the unveiling video
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Tony Clifton on July 24, 2018, 03:19:58 AM
Bring on the samba girls!
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: D15TIN on July 24, 2018, 03:19:59 AM
Sky have now admitted the fee is £40million ''lower than first reported"
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Cassius on July 24, 2018, 03:26:58 AM
To the deal or are they waiting for better light for the unveiling video

I'm gonna level with you Gene, I just copied the information from the two tweets above my post. I've got no ITK credentials whatsoever.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: eugene on July 24, 2018, 03:34:13 AM
Ha ha no shit Sherlock
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: bluenuck on July 24, 2018, 03:39:04 AM
Maybe the photographer got double booked for a wedding or something?

lol

My work mate was asking what was taking so long to unveil him. I told him we probably can't get the photographer booked till Wednesday.... Then I read this.  lolol
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Alanvideo on July 24, 2018, 03:40:57 AM
Richarlison de Andrade to give him his full title.  :wag:
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 24, 2018, 03:43:15 AM
Spielberg is just putting the finishing touches to the reveal video
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 24, 2018, 03:45:49 AM
Spielberg is just putting the finishing touches to the reveal video

So the first part of it will be epic and the rest will peter out to nothing boringness.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 24, 2018, 03:46:02 AM
They're filming one of those cuntinf reveal videos aren't they?

God I fucking hate them.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: eugene on July 24, 2018, 03:49:07 AM
Canít wait lots of lovelies in thongs sambering in the main stand with mono brows and orange bodies come on down Richie lad
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 24, 2018, 03:49:47 AM
I'm gonna level with you Gene, I just copied the information from the two tweets above my post. I've got no ITK credentials whatsoever.

This was so Partridge, which to me is a bonus
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Sixx1402 on July 24, 2018, 03:52:44 AM
On sky now also, here comes our first signing, welcome sir
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 24, 2018, 03:54:26 AM
So the first part of it will be epic and the rest will peter out to nothing boringness.

Jurassic park themed I believe, the bit where Dr Grant first sees the dinosaurs, but instead of him seeking a dinosaur he's sees Richarlison in his Everton kit giving them thumbs up "Richarlison, my dear Richarlison welcome to Goodison Park"
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Confucius on July 24, 2018, 03:56:40 AM
I think the video will start off with Silva's office where he has pics of Richarlison all over the walls ad tactics of how best to use him etc and end off with Richarlison sat at home with pics of Marco Silva all over his house.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 24, 2018, 03:58:54 AM
Will deffo be a silva / richarlison reunion scene
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 24, 2018, 04:02:16 AM
I think the video will start off with Silva's office where he has pics of Richarlison all over the walls ad tactics of how best to use him etc and end off with Richarlison sat at home with pics of Marco Silva all over his house.

With both of them wanking, furiously
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Fynci on July 24, 2018, 04:02:47 AM
Will deffo be a silva / richarlison reunion scene

They will be running towards each other in slow motion, a soft ballad will play in the background.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: toshyboy on July 24, 2018, 04:06:13 AM
Will deffo be a silva / richarlison reunion scene

Be the lift scene from Dirty Dancing
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 24, 2018, 04:09:48 AM
The ending in Shawshank Redemption
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: School of Science on July 24, 2018, 04:10:50 AM
Jurassic park themed I believe, the bit where Dr Grant first sees the dinosaurs, but instead of him seeking a dinosaur he's sees Richarlison in his Everton kit giving them thumbs up "Richarlison, my dear Richarlison welcome to Goodison Park"

And when Richarlison see's the first training session, turns to Silva and says, " Look, they do move in herds "
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ross on July 24, 2018, 04:17:42 AM
Starts off with Silva at his desk staring at his phone shaking his head and tutting... next shot a picture of Jo on his screen as he swipes left to Rodriquez then onto to Muller (laughs)...pulls back to a picture of Silvas face as a wide dopey grin spreads across his face...
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Mayor Farnum on July 24, 2018, 04:19:26 AM
Spielberg is just putting the finishing touches to the reveal video

Probably blame the high in the Nazis in that case. Can't let it go that fella.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: GLewis on July 24, 2018, 04:19:38 AM
They will be running towards each other in slow motion, a soft ballad will play in the background.

Don't wish it away
Don't look at it like it's forever
Between you and me
I could honestly say
That things can only get better

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Cassius on July 24, 2018, 04:19:46 AM
This was so Partridge, which to me is a bonus

You know my comedy inspiration well, fella!
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Cassius on July 24, 2018, 04:23:31 AM
I'd like to see the welcome video revealing former player Kevin Richardson, just for the shits.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 24, 2018, 04:24:29 AM
You know my comedy inspiration well, fella!

I saw him the other day, brother 👌🏼

I used to see him every week in my old job 😔
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Cassius on July 24, 2018, 04:32:01 AM
I saw him the other day, brother 👌🏼

I used to see him every week in my old job 😔

Didn't you chat to him in the gym where you worked?

My mate did a line of coke with him on the roof of a private member's club in London in the late 90s. My mate isn't in to drugs at all but he was his hero so made an exception.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 24, 2018, 04:36:44 AM
Didn't you chat to him in the gym where you worked?

My mate did a line of coke with him on the roof of a private member's club in London in the late 90s. My mate isn't in to drugs at all but he was his hero so made an exception.

Haha, yeah, I ran the joint, so he was actually nice to me, but he was a bit of a middle-aged bully to a work experience lad we had 😂

Coke with the Coogs, lovely stuff 👌🏼

A hot girl I knew slept with him, and he seduced her with early rushes of Saxondale  lolol
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Nicco on July 24, 2018, 04:51:58 AM
Sky have now admitted the fee is £40million ''lower than first reported"
So šr around  £10million then?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Sixx1402 on July 24, 2018, 04:53:06 AM
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/718419/Liverpool-news-Everton-40m-Richarlison-deal-slammed-Steve-Nicol-Jurgen-Klopp-video?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+daily-star-football+%28Daily+Star+%3A%3A+Football+Feed%29

I really cannot stand this cunt

Thanks for the second equaliser in the 4-4 by the way. Prick
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 24, 2018, 04:59:21 AM
So itís being reported at 40mil.

Considering that could involve compensation for silva itís probably the right price for him.

Wonít stop the press and their OMG 50MIL FOR RICHARLISON though.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: pjk on July 24, 2018, 05:05:25 AM
Not sure how accurate this is, but I'm not too happy about Lookman if it is.  :-\




https://twitter.com/thechicoazul/status/1021515456711155712
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Tony Clifton on July 24, 2018, 05:06:19 AM
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/718419/Liverpool-news-Everton-40m-Richarlison-deal-slammed-Steve-Nicol-Jurgen-Klopp-video?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+daily-star-football+%28Daily+Star+%3A%3A+Football+Feed%29

I really cannot stand this cunt

Thanks for the second equaliser in the 4-4 by the way. Prick

He can't help it, he's one of them, and, well...

(http://www.offtheball.com/content/000/images/000194/200826_60_news_hub_multi_630x0.jpg)

Nothing good could ever come from that face.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Confucius on July 24, 2018, 05:07:01 AM
Not sure how accurate this is, but I'm not too happy about Lookman if it is.  :-\




https://twitter.com/thechicoazul/status/1021515456711155712

Fake fake fake. Spell the players names right for a start
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 24, 2018, 05:08:32 AM
Heís a fucking loser that fella.

Got too much time on his hands
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: pjk on July 24, 2018, 05:12:26 AM
Fake fake fake. Spell the players names right for a start



Don't shoot the messenger! Just passing on a bit of reading material. :)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 24, 2018, 05:27:06 AM
Heís a fucking loser that fella.

Got too much time on his hands

Nah heís funny, but heís gone more and more towards winding up fellow blues over the last few months.

The fake allardyce quotes were always funny, and his pre match write ups are sound.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 24, 2018, 06:26:42 PM
Jeez. whats the hold up? VT editor on a sicky?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: SANA_DR0 on July 24, 2018, 06:44:49 PM
I think its like 35 million, plus the Silva money.. then add ons if we get into europe and other randomness.. which may take it up to 50 in around 5 years...
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 24, 2018, 06:45:39 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/sport/football/993441/Everton-transfer-news-Richarlison-medical-announcement/amp
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Toddacelli on July 24, 2018, 06:56:18 PM
He can't help it, he's one of them, and, well...

(http://www.offtheball.com/content/000/images/000194/200826_60_news_hub_multi_630x0.jpg)

Nothing good could ever come from that face.

Had to Tool you for that lad.

Innocently scrolling down NSNO and suddenly my screen is filled with that? Outrageous behaviour!
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Hesmenos on July 24, 2018, 07:03:18 PM
I think its like 35 million, plus the Silva money.. then add ons if we get into europe and other randomness.. which may take it up to 50 in around 5 years...
Regarding this Silva money that most people suggest is included in the fee. Where is this coming from? I know it suits our agenda to say that we haven't overpaid for him, but it makes no sense for Watford to include it in the fee as they will then have to pay a % of it to Fluminese.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: DanDan on July 24, 2018, 07:12:00 PM
Had to Tool you for that lad.

Innocently scrolling down NSNO and suddenly my screen is filled with that? Outrageous behaviour!

Sorry had to tool you too for repeating it
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Goaljira on July 24, 2018, 07:16:23 PM
Had to Tool you for that lad.

Innocently scrolling down NSNO and suddenly my screen is filled with that? Outrageous behaviour!

And then you go and quote it with the image still intact, so it appears again!

Sorry @DanDan (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=161) I hadn't seen there was another page.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 24, 2018, 08:36:35 PM
Iím going for a 6pm announcement.

Always seems to either be 3pm or 6pm.

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Tony Clifton on July 24, 2018, 08:54:46 PM
Had to Tool you for that lad.

Innocently scrolling down NSNO and suddenly my screen is filled with that? Outrageous behaviour!

Tool away, I really should have put a warning on that.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: D15TIN on July 24, 2018, 09:01:57 PM
I’m going for a 6pm announcement.

Always seems to either be 3pm or 6pm.


Yeah i'll say 6 too, this announcement video best be worth the wait.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 24, 2018, 09:10:12 PM
5 o'clock I reckon, probably doing loads of interviews, photo shoots and that first
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: eugene on July 24, 2018, 09:17:40 PM
Samba girls park end
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: eugene on July 24, 2018, 09:18:25 PM
Gyrating on my seat
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: stirlingblue on July 24, 2018, 09:40:26 PM
Not sure how accurate this is, but I'm not too happy about Lookman if it is.  :-\
https://twitter.com/thechicoazul/status/1021515456711155712

Heís on the wind up donít worry, he confirmed it under the tweet
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: bluenuck on July 24, 2018, 09:53:53 PM
Huh. Thought this would be done when I woke up...
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: D15TIN on July 24, 2018, 09:56:06 PM
Huh. Thought this would be done when I woke up...
Same, was hoping we'd be a little closer to other signings also, doesn't look like anything imminent other than Richarlison
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 24, 2018, 10:10:03 PM
Number 70?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blueToffee on July 24, 2018, 10:10:07 PM
Huh. Thought this would be done when I woke up...

Try going back to bed.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: eugene on July 24, 2018, 10:11:40 PM
Like Groundhog Day?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blue slug on July 24, 2018, 10:28:35 PM
Bring back ceefax, no waiting just find out on the day the player signed
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Toffee_4_Life on July 24, 2018, 11:22:47 PM
Notification to say Everton has posted on Instagram so click all excited, expecting the reveal but instead find........

A throwback Marco Materazzi post 😖
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 24, 2018, 11:35:07 PM
Last remaining paperwork is the hold up apparently.

Must be struggling to download Adobe Acrobat again.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: School of Science on July 24, 2018, 11:37:18 PM
Now that Malcolm is on his way to Barca, leaves Napoli without a winger, c'mon Everton complete this bloody deal  :)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 24, 2018, 11:38:51 PM
Now that Malcolm is on his way to Barca, leaves Napoli without a winger, c'mon Everton complete this bloody deal  :)

Roma?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: bluenuck on July 24, 2018, 11:39:05 PM
Dial up connection is down. Can't fax the paper work.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 24, 2018, 11:39:22 PM
No ink in the official club biro
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: School of Science on July 24, 2018, 11:41:37 PM
Roma?

Oh yeah haha, it's been a long day in work.  ;D
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Sixx1402 on July 24, 2018, 11:42:12 PM
It will be the fucking video.

They have to do one for every signing now

Bet his kit doesn't fit or something  lolol
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on July 24, 2018, 11:43:02 PM
These jokes are atrocious. Go and do summat else, and check what's happening later.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Audrey Horne on July 24, 2018, 11:43:58 PM
hahahhahah

https://twitter.com/EvertonArentWe/status/1021517550155452416
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: bluenuck on July 24, 2018, 11:44:39 PM
These jokes are atrocious. Go and do summat else, and check what's happening later.

you go away. Servers down at work and I got nothing to do.  :)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Sixx1402 on July 24, 2018, 11:45:29 PM
Dad jokes
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Shogun on July 24, 2018, 11:47:33 PM
Number 70?

Doubt it, didnít the PL refuse 85 for Sanches at Swansea?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Tinga on July 25, 2018, 12:05:52 AM
Monday eh?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: plumber on July 25, 2018, 12:08:18 AM
Can Everton make a signing without endless dragging on?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 25, 2018, 12:15:21 AM
Can Everton make a signing without endless dragging on?

Or can our fans stop being a bunch of fucking flappers for a few hours?

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blue slug on July 25, 2018, 12:16:43 AM
Or can our fans stop being a bunch of fucking flappers for a few hours?



To be fair we do piss around way more than other clubs it seems to me
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on July 25, 2018, 12:21:40 AM
To be fair we do piss around way more than other clubs it seems to me

The key bit of that sentence is 'it seems to me'.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 25, 2018, 12:21:55 AM
To be fair we do piss around way more than other clubs it seems to me

Do we really? Or are our fans just a bunch of cranks?

The deal is literally complete, itís just a matter of getting all the social media bullshit done.

It only come out on the Thursday night that we were in for him. Come the following Tuesday and itís done. I donít see how this is dragging out at all
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 25, 2018, 12:23:50 AM
Also, theyíll have a time to want to announce the deal to get as many likes and retweets as possible.

For example, if the announce it at 9pm tonight, a time when most people here are at home and people in other parts of the world are just leaving work then it will attract more eyes.

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Brownie on July 25, 2018, 12:29:38 AM
To be fair we do piss around way more than other clubs it seems to me

Do we? How closely do you follow other teams' transfers? Guarantee that we are no different to the majority
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 25, 2018, 12:30:50 AM
I imagine we are the same as any club with deals
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: toshyboy on July 25, 2018, 12:32:52 AM
Done on sky now
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 25, 2018, 12:33:17 AM
Yep deal done
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Brownie on July 25, 2018, 12:34:22 AM
Get in there
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on July 25, 2018, 12:34:25 AM
For example, Chelsea didn't even fire their manager until July 13th. What a catastrophically poor decision, and waste of time that was.

All clubs have trials and tribulations. It involves people, and people are awkward and change their minds.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: eame on July 25, 2018, 12:36:31 AM
At last.... NEXT...
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blue slug on July 25, 2018, 12:37:58 AM
Do we? How closely do you follow other teams' transfers? Guarantee that we are no different to the majority

Well Liverpool signed Fabinho and Allison quick as fuck
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 25, 2018, 12:41:40 AM
No official announcement from us yet....
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Brownie on July 25, 2018, 12:43:07 AM
Well Liverpool signed Fabinho and Allison quick as fuck

Allison was linked for weeks before hand. Fabinho I have no idea but I doubt it happened in 24 hours
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Gash on July 25, 2018, 12:43:36 AM
Well Liverpool signed Fabinho and Allison quick as fuck

They'd been linked to (and probably talking with) Alisson for months.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blue slug on July 25, 2018, 12:44:47 AM
Fair enough dudes I stand corrected as a impatient flapper
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Escla on July 25, 2018, 12:45:59 AM
No official announcement from us yet....

What has been said on Sky ?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 25, 2018, 12:47:20 AM
What has been said on Sky ?

Sky sources understand.......
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: toshyboy on July 25, 2018, 12:47:48 AM
What has been said on Sky ?

ďSky sourcesĒ - Deal done and signed 5 year deal
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Escla on July 25, 2018, 12:48:38 AM
Sky sources understand.......
So just the usual bollocks then .. so what triggers all the get in and ..at last posts ?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 25, 2018, 12:49:35 AM
So just the usual bollocks then .. so what triggers all the get in and ..at last posts ?

Sky wouldnít announce a deal is done if they hadnít been told directly from the club.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: toshyboy on July 25, 2018, 12:51:05 AM
So just the usual bollocks then .. so what triggers all the get in and ..at last posts ?

Watch this space....
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 25, 2018, 12:51:18 AM
https://twitter.com/AndreGray7/status/1021814679784574976
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: plumber on July 25, 2018, 01:03:04 AM
Or can our fans stop being a bunch of fucking flappers for a few hours?



No
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Cozzie on July 25, 2018, 01:03:09 AM
Happy at the end of the day. He will do well for us.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: D15TIN on July 25, 2018, 01:14:24 AM
Everton still not confirmed ha
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 25, 2018, 01:20:22 AM
Everton still not confirmed ha

You would think they would be the first.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 25, 2018, 01:21:19 AM
As long as itís done idgaf.

Improves us as a team and believe me or not has champions league potential. Arnautovic but younger with better shot selection (and worse assists).

Bang into this signing, but I will say it feels a little bit like a Silva concession, the new manager getting his man kind of thing. I know Brands has Ďsanctionedí it which is fine, but it would be nice to see some Brands signings.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 25, 2018, 01:21:51 AM
As long as it's done idgaf.

Improves us as a team and believe me or not has champions league potential. Arnautovic but younger with better shot selection (and worse assists).

Bang into this signing, but I will say it feels a little bit like a Silva concession, the new manager getting his man kind of thing. I know Brands has "sanctioned' it which is fine, but it would be nice to see some Brands signings.
Preach it dua
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Dr. Sponge on July 25, 2018, 01:22:12 AM
Itís done, chill out. On to the next one.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Escla on July 25, 2018, 01:26:25 AM
You would think they would be the first.

What, and take all the surprise element out of the reveal video !
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 25, 2018, 01:26:34 AM
Iím made up with this.

We do well when we make this type of signing.

Felliani, Lukaku, Pickford all examples of us overpaying for potential.

Exactly the type of player we need too. Everybody in that midfield is a bit robotic, Richarlison will bring a raw, maverick quality to the team.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 25, 2018, 01:30:02 AM
Silva knows how to get the best out of him, it's a great signing
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: plumber on July 25, 2018, 01:32:18 AM
So not announced yet?
 Everton that.













Sorry, couldn't resist.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 25, 2018, 01:32:38 AM
Very exciting signing. And seeing his price is similar to Malcom for Barca, similar potential, it's a non brainer.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 25, 2018, 01:35:02 AM
Iím made up with this.

We do well when we make this type of signing.

Felliani, Lukaku, Pickford all examples of us overpaying for potential.

Exactly the type of player we need too. Everybody in that midfield is a bit robotic, Richarlison will bring a raw, maverick quality to the team.

We are close to being one of the most sauceless teams in the league, especially with potentially losing Lookman and Yala.

This young man will get us off our seats..weíve just signed a Brazilian winger for a loada fuckin money, if you canít buzz off this a bit I say put the calculator away and yourself with it.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 25, 2018, 01:37:49 AM
We are close to being one of the most sauceless teams in the league, especially with potentially losing Lookman and Yala.

This young man will get us off our seats..weíve just signed a Brazilian winger for a loada fuckin money, if you canít buzz off this a bit I say put the calculator away and yourself with it.

Rumours heís taking the number 70 shirt as well.

And Iíam fully behind that.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: eugene on July 25, 2018, 01:38:15 AM
Bring on the samba girls all feathered to death
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 25, 2018, 01:58:56 AM
Rumours heís taking the number 70 shirt as well.

And Iíam fully behind that.

Considering getting a fluminense top off dh gate
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Audrey Horne on July 25, 2018, 02:15:40 AM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/1021836043593629699
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Gash on July 25, 2018, 02:16:46 AM
Blew the budget on signing him and had nothing left for the reveal video.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 25, 2018, 02:19:10 AM
Number 30
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 25, 2018, 02:21:20 AM
Very happy
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on July 25, 2018, 02:22:08 AM
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2018/07/24/signing
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 25, 2018, 02:23:07 AM
All the flappers stop flapping now
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Post by: eugene on July 25, 2018, 02:23:07 AM
What no fuckin samba girls! Shite that,
Welcome to the blues Riche lad
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Brownie on July 25, 2018, 02:24:03 AM
Number 30

Wonder what number Holgate will be now
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Post by: Jimmywhack on July 25, 2018, 02:24:24 AM
Looks bigger than 5 10 like
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Post by: WeimaranerBlues on July 25, 2018, 02:24:31 AM
that it, waited all day lol
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Post by: Silas on July 25, 2018, 02:24:45 AM
Yay
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: gizzblue on July 25, 2018, 02:26:46 AM
All the flappers stop flapping now


They will just get greedy now  lolol
wanting more and more.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: kramer0 on July 25, 2018, 02:30:22 AM
@Cassius (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2799)

What are you hearing?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Simon Paul on July 25, 2018, 02:32:05 AM
number 30 though
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Shropshire Blue on July 25, 2018, 02:33:20 AM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/1021836043593629699
You've been sat there all day waiting to be first with that haven't you Lizz?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lazarou on July 25, 2018, 02:33:43 AM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/U9n5yP5evCkc8/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: kramer0 on July 25, 2018, 02:35:00 AM
number 30 though

Maybe he likes multiples of 10?

In which case someone should have told him that #10 is available.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on July 25, 2018, 02:35:35 AM
Well into this. Think we've got a future star, with his best years ahead.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 25, 2018, 02:36:08 AM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/1021836043593629699

Samba Dogging
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Cereal Killer on July 25, 2018, 02:39:16 AM
So in the media, Lukaku, was sold was 75m (plus 15m in addons in small print)

However Richarlison was sold for 50m (of which 15m is addons in small print)

Can't any media just be consistent with its reporting? Fucking tools
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Risky on July 25, 2018, 02:41:12 AM
(https://ih0.redbubble.net/image.266771938.1351/mp,550x550,matte,ffffff,t.3u1.jpg)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Audrey Horne on July 25, 2018, 02:43:29 AM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/1021842239746703360
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Cozzie on July 25, 2018, 02:45:00 AM
Happy.

Hopefully this is the beginning of a few in gonna be a busy week.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 25, 2018, 02:47:01 AM
Another 2 in by Friday
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 25, 2018, 02:47:29 AM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/1021842239746703360

Wow, he's learnt Scouse already. Didn't understand a word  lolol lolol  ;)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: kramer0 on July 25, 2018, 02:48:01 AM
If we're going to overpay for players, I prefer we overpay for players like this guy.

Impressive physically and technically, already has good habits (generating about 3 shots a game, many of them in the center of the box), and has plenty of time to get better at age 21.

This is way better than the big money, little upside moves we made the past two summers. He actually has a chance of being worth it when all is said and done.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on July 25, 2018, 02:54:30 AM
A class centre half and i would feel uncharacteristically optimistic...
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on July 25, 2018, 03:05:39 AM
Comments from a Watford fan, on the Guardian website:

''Heís an outstanding player with a fantastic attitude.
I know thatís big money but weíd rather have kept Richie than have the cash.
Thanks for the memories and good luck with Everton''

''we always knew heíd go; heís a class act who behaved professionally.
No toys out of the pram like another ex Watford employee youíve got up there.
Heís from Brazil, not Herts, he owes us nothing.
 I hope it works out; heís got pace, skill, creativity, energy, tenacity and heíll just get better''
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: colin on July 25, 2018, 03:08:19 AM
Excited to see Richarlison and Walcott feeding Tosun!
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Post by: penguinofdoom1878 on July 25, 2018, 03:13:02 AM
I was a bit ffs Everton when this was first muted with the £50m price tag, but now its done im really happy with it.

Bit like Walcott all summer when ive seen his mug and on twitter theres a bit of joy that he's an Everton player too.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Cassius on July 25, 2018, 03:16:17 AM
@Cassius (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2799)

What are you hearing?

Unfortunately, my source is suggesting that West Ham have come in with a late bid.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Everton Mint on July 25, 2018, 03:21:47 AM
https://twitter.com/Everton/status/1021842239746703360

Surprised he's not speaking English... he must've been in the UK 12 months.

But at least Silva can communicate with him in Portuguese.

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 25, 2018, 03:26:21 AM
Surprised he's not speaking English... he must've been in the UK 12 months.

But at least Silva can communicate with him in Portuguese.



Iím sure he knows more than enough to communicate on the pitch and training ground, he just isnít fluent enough to feel confident in front of the camera.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: kramer0 on July 25, 2018, 03:27:15 AM
Excited to see Richarlison and Walcott feeding Tosun!

It might end up being the other way around, honestly.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: mikey_blue on July 25, 2018, 03:29:27 AM
Canít wait to see him fly past defenders and score about 90 goals this season.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 25, 2018, 03:32:09 AM
Wins the Balon D'or within 2 years
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 25, 2018, 03:39:26 AM
Donít read Twitter tonight, even Ladbrokes are trying to troll us.

Itís pretty insane.

Chelsea were rumoured to be interested in signing him for £40m last season, and Carragher and Redknapp were blowing him like mad before a Watford match that I watched, saying he was clearly heading for the very top of the game.

But now Everton have bought him and Richarlison is suddenly shit and weíre a laughing stock?

Fuck that.

Iím really excited about the signing, and I hope we splash the rest of our cash on exciting and promising players between the ages of 18-23.

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Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 25, 2018, 03:45:03 AM
Donít read Twitter tonight, even Ladbrokes are trying to troll us.

Itís pretty insane.

Chelsea were rumoured to be interested in signing him for £40m last season, and Carragher and Redknapp were blowing him like mad before a Watford match that I watched, saying he was clearly heading for the very top of the game.

But now Everton have bought him and Richarlison is suddenly shit and weíre a laughing stock?

Fuck that.

Iím really excited about the signing, and I hope we splash the rest of our cash on exciting and promising players between the ages of 18-23.



Who cares. The same host of idiots were saying weíd done fantastic business last season. They know fuck all and are just pushing a narrative.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on July 25, 2018, 03:46:31 AM
Who cares. The same host of idiots were saying we’d done fantastic business last season. They know fuck all and are just pushing a narrative.

Come on then KNT. Are you excited about this one?
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Post by: bluenuck on July 25, 2018, 03:46:42 AM
Surprised he's not speaking English... he must've been in the UK 12 months.

But at least Silva can communicate with him in Portuguese.

You'd be surprised how hard english is to learn.

Also, I lived in Japan for 18 months. Learned how to string together about 3-5 sentences. Everything else was just words or 2 words together.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 25, 2018, 03:48:54 AM
Donít read Twitter tonight, even Ladbrokes are trying to troll us.

Itís pretty insane.

Chelsea were rumoured to be interested in signing him for £40m last season, and Carragher and Redknapp were blowing him like mad before a Watford match that I watched, saying he was clearly heading for the very top of the game.

But now Everton have bought him and Richarlison is suddenly shit and weíre a laughing stock?

Fuck that.

Iím really excited about the signing, and I hope we splash the rest of our cash on exciting and promising players between the ages of 18-23.



It's actually embarrassing, if one of the big 5 signed him the media would be wanking themselves silly.

Anyway, he's ours, so fuck them
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: van der Meyde on July 25, 2018, 03:58:22 AM
Has Brands made any comments about Richarlison?

Id feel a lot more comfortable about it if he has...
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on July 25, 2018, 04:01:58 AM
Has Brands made any comments about Richarlison?

Id feel a lot more comfortable about it if he has...

Saw somewhere that he wanted to sign him for PSV.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Alanvideo on July 25, 2018, 04:02:53 AM
Positivity from The Grauniad..............
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jul/24/richarlison-joins-everton-repay-marco-silva-faith
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: GLewis on July 25, 2018, 04:04:44 AM
Itís no different as to why do Liverpool wait to buy Manť or whoever from Southampton for six times more than what was paid for them 2 years before.

If weíre in a position to pay more for more ďguaranteeĒ that a player will work out then so what?

Also lots of people ignore how the market inflates (eg if the record fee now is £200m then £40m isnít big in relative terms); or some people use complete flukes (Salah was not bought to have a season like he did, he would have been expected to be a bit better than Mane) as examples of yeah but look at that...
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blue slug on July 25, 2018, 04:04:55 AM
A lot of English players English is piss poor
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: GLewis on July 25, 2018, 04:08:01 AM
People thought Pochettino couldnít speak English - he could, but he wanted to reduce the chance of his words being misconstrued.

Youíd have to be pretty confident in your proficiency in a language to give your first interview at a new club.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 25, 2018, 04:08:45 AM
It's actually embarrassing, if one of the big 5 signed him the media would be wanking themselves silly.

Anyway, he's ours, so fuck them

Exactly.

If he has five great games for us these same cunts, both media and bellends on social media, will be insisting heís too good for us and will be leaving next summer for £40,000,000.01
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 25, 2018, 04:11:56 AM
Exactly.

If he has five great games for us these same cunts, both media and bellends on social media, will be insisting heís too good for us and will be leaving next summer for £40,000,000.01

Deffo, this is bound to happen
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Gash on July 25, 2018, 04:12:44 AM
So, is it Rich-arlison, Rish-arlison or Rick-arlison as I've heard commentators use all of the above?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: bluenuck on July 25, 2018, 04:13:20 AM
So, is it Rich-arlison, Rish-arlison or Rick-arlison as I've heard commentators use all of the above?

Is it Davis or Davies? Cause I hear every commentator say Davis.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Gash on July 25, 2018, 04:15:01 AM
Is it Davis or Davies? Cause I hear every commentator say Davis.

Haven't a clue, I pronounce them both the same anyway.  :)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Alanvideo on July 25, 2018, 04:15:14 AM
So, is it Rich-arlison, Rish-arlison or Rick-arlison as I've heard commentators use all of the above?
.................if John Motson has any say in the matter it will be Richardson.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 25, 2018, 04:16:07 AM
Is it Davis or Davies? Cause I hear every commentator say Davis.

I always assumed it was just a Scouse thing to call him Tom Dayveeyz
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Gash on July 25, 2018, 04:16:43 AM
.................if John Motson has any say in the matter it will be Richardson.

Haha! Thankfully I think he's retired now. Loved Motty but he hung around a bit too long.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: van der Meyde on July 25, 2018, 04:18:44 AM
Saw somewhere that he wanted to sign him for PSV.
I saw that too, but after a brief search online/Twitter. The only thing I could find related to him and PSV said that they wouldn't try to sign him because they weren't convinced he was good enough...
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: GLewis on July 25, 2018, 04:18:47 AM
So, is it Rich-arlison, Rish-arlison or Rick-arlison as I've heard commentators use all of the above?

The middle one.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 25, 2018, 04:19:43 AM
Is it Davis or Davies? Cause I hear every commentator say Davis.

Itís sir Thomas Davies of west derby.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 25, 2018, 04:20:00 AM
Come on then KNT. Are you excited about this one?

I get excited about them all in the end. Even rooney who was evidently shit brought a lump to my throat when he signed

Honestly I donít watch enough football other than Everton to really know

Thereís a question mark in terms of his early form and what followed but of course Iím excited. We all live in hope
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Post by: GLewis on July 25, 2018, 04:20:31 AM
I saw that too, but after a brief search online/Twitter. The only thing I could find related to him and PSV said that they wouldn't try to sign him because they weren't convinced he was good enough...

Playing the long game...
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 25, 2018, 04:22:03 AM
Donít read Twitter tonight, even Ladbrokes are trying to troll us.

Itís pretty insane.

Chelsea were rumoured to be interested in signing him for £40m last season, and Carragher and Redknapp were blowing him like mad before a Watford match that I watched, saying he was clearly heading for the very top of the game.

But now Everton have bought him and Richarlison is suddenly shit and weíre a laughing stock?

Fuck that.

Iím really excited about the signing, and I hope we splash the rest of our cash on exciting and promising players between the ages of 18-23.



Hard not to react isnít it, but they wonít be smiling when he slots 15 league goals next year in the royal blue.

El craqķe.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: van der Meyde on July 25, 2018, 04:23:19 AM
Playing the long game...
On the other hand, I also saw people suggest he was better than Ronaldo was before he left for PSV, so fuck knows!
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Normm on July 25, 2018, 04:23:36 AM
A lot of English players English is piss poor

You forgot the apostrophe.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: bluenuck on July 25, 2018, 04:25:50 AM
I always assumed it was just a Scouse thing to call him Tom Dayveeyz

nah. I'm canadian and call him that.

Davis is just weird from Davies.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: GLewis on July 25, 2018, 04:26:08 AM
Hard not to react isnít it, but they wonít be smiling when he slots 15 league goals next year in the royal blue.

El craqķe.

Linguistic pedantry but itís ďo craqueĒ in Portuguese ;)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: GLewis on July 25, 2018, 04:26:44 AM
On the other hand, I also saw people suggest he was better than Ronaldo was before he left for PSV, so fuck knows!

Steady!
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Mayor Farnum on July 25, 2018, 04:29:17 AM
Pace. You can't get too excited about pace.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: toshyboy on July 25, 2018, 04:38:13 AM
Haha! Thankfully I think he's retired now. Loved Motty but he hung around a bit too long.

Heís back

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/44940691
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on July 25, 2018, 04:39:22 AM
Positivity from The Grauniad..............
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jul/24/richarlison-joins-everton-repay-marco-silva-faith

Good read that.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: kramer0 on July 25, 2018, 04:47:23 AM
Look at this beauty. He can score 10+ goals a season easily if he improves his finishing.

https://twitter.com/footballfactman/status/1020562486976811008 (https://twitter.com/footballfactman/status/1020562486976811008)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: pjk on July 25, 2018, 04:47:57 AM
Seen the NSNo headline. First I heard, he had actually signed. Wonderful. "He's a good addition". Having said that, I thought that about Davy.  ::)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: van der Meyde on July 25, 2018, 04:50:11 AM
Look at this beauty. He can score 10+ goals a season easily if he improves his finishing.

https://twitter.com/footballfactman/status/1020562486976811008 (https://twitter.com/footballfactman/status/1020562486976811008)
Would like to think that, having seen him in training, Silva would be well placed to say if that kind of underperformance is (ahem!) expected in future or not too.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Nick on July 25, 2018, 04:51:00 AM
If he turns into another Coutinho, we'll easily triple our money.

That's a rather massive 'if'.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on July 25, 2018, 04:54:55 AM
The most fouled player in the prem last year. That will be handy with Sigurdsson taking our set pieces. Be nice to get Mina in now - who us awesome at getting on the end of dead balls.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 25, 2018, 04:57:38 AM
Pace on both flanks now, haven't had that for years
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Nick on July 25, 2018, 04:59:04 AM
Everton spending is a joke.

Gotta give the guy a chance though, so best of luck to him.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ross on July 25, 2018, 05:00:31 AM
The most fouled player in the prem last year. That will be handy with Sigurdsson taking our set pieces. Be nice to get Mina in now - who us awesome at getting on the end of dead balls.

Howís the handicap coming along Ronald?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 25, 2018, 05:04:33 AM
The most fouled player in the prem last year. That will be handy with Sigurdsson taking our set pieces. Be nice to get Mina in now - who us awesome at getting on the end of dead balls.

I would also love to get Mina in next, followed by the Swiss DM Zakaria who we were tenuously linked with today, as I really think midfield is more vital to improve, as I still have faith in Baines and I like the look of Robinson.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 25, 2018, 05:05:12 AM
Howís the handicap coming along Ronald?

Yeah, heís still retarded
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: dunkster on July 25, 2018, 05:07:37 AM
Hard to believe a lot of those red dots just a few yards out were missed shots.
Like said, if he can improve his finishing will be a fine signing.
Hoping with regular game time he and Walcott should be getting into double figures.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: pjk on July 25, 2018, 05:21:53 AM
Allardyce brought in two good players Cenk and Theo. Richarlison and Siggurdsson, are both quality. Tweaks in the defence. A new centre half, cover for Baines and a holding midfielder with plenty of vision, and we're set. From what I've seen from the early signs of Silvas influence on the squad, things seem much more promising. Richarlison's a great signing. Not sure about everyone else, but I like this young manager. He just needs to show whilst he's here, that he's reliable, and isn't going to get off at the drop of a hat. :)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: kramer0 on July 25, 2018, 05:34:29 AM
I would also love to get Mina in next, followed by the Swiss DM Zakaria who we were tenuously linked with today, as I really think midfield is more vital to improve, as I still have faith in Baines and I like the look of Robinson.

At a glance, Iíd say Zakaria is the wrong type of midfielder to improve us.

He strikes me as more of an athletic, defensive type when what we really need is some quality on the ball.

Iíd rather invest more minutes in Dowell, whoís shown some genuine promise as a passer, than try to shoehorn in another player whose main qualities are defensive.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: bluenuck on July 25, 2018, 05:34:34 AM
Allardyce brought in two good players Cenk and Theo. Richarlison and Siggurdsson, are both quality. Tweaks in the defence. A new centre half, cover Replacement for Baines and a holding midfielder with plenty of vision, and we're set. From what I've seen from the early signs of Silvas influence on the squad, things seem much more promising. Richarlison's a great signing. Not sure about everyone else, but I like this young manager. He just needs to show whilst he's here, that he's reliable, and isn't going to get off at the drop of a hat. :)

Fixed it
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 25, 2018, 05:35:33 AM
Linguistic pedantry but itís ďo craqueĒ in Portuguese ;)

Couldnít fuckin find it anywhere and my phone was on like 4%, swing and a miss.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: bluenuck on July 25, 2018, 05:37:51 AM
At a glance, Iíd say Zakaria is the wrong type of midfielder to improve us.

He strikes me as more of an athletic, defensive type when what we really need is some quality on the ball.

Iíd rather invest more minutes in Dowell, whoís shown some genuine promise as a passer, than try to shoehorn in another player whose main qualities are defensive.

ya. I like Zakaria, but we need a more box to box player with quality passing and a little vision to help out on the attacking side of things.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 25, 2018, 05:49:23 AM
At a glance, Iíd say Zakaria is the wrong type of midfielder to improve us.

He strikes me as more of an athletic, defensive type when what we really need is some quality on the ball.

Iíd rather invest more minutes in Dowell, whoís shown some genuine promise as a passer, than try to shoehorn in another player whose main qualities are defensive.

You donít think we look more breachable  in the centre than a microwaved marshmallow?

Agree on the ball playing aspect as well, though, but being centrally solid would make a nice change too.

How about Zakaria and Loftus-Cheek?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: dunkster on July 25, 2018, 05:52:38 AM
A young  arteta would be perfect as the outlet midfielder we need. Miss him and cahill
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Dr. Sponge on July 25, 2018, 05:59:51 AM
You don't think we look more breachable  in the centre than a microwaved marshmallow?

Agree on the ball playing aspect as well, though, but being centrally solid would make a nice change too.

How about Zakaria and Loftus-Cheek?

Wish Schneiderlin would just up his game again. Looked quality in his first season.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: dunkster on July 25, 2018, 06:01:59 AM
Wish Schneiderlin would just up his game again. Looked quality in his first season.

I think he may do IF the team play decently. But if the team struggle he's not the guy to drag everyone up, he'll just disappear.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 25, 2018, 06:41:25 AM
This is really worth posting again.

Heís a relentlessly positive, big, powerful nuisance


Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 25, 2018, 06:57:50 AM
He looks so much bigger than 5í10Ē.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 25, 2018, 07:01:38 AM
He looks so much bigger than 5í10Ē.

Yes, heís very upright, so that might create that impression
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Robber Rodwell on July 25, 2018, 08:52:35 AM
I was checking out a Watford Forum and came across this clinker, also Marco is known as the snake, who wears a large timepiece.


"I saw an Everton fan in the supermarket yesterday. He was going a bit bald and was on the next checkout over from me, paying for his shopping and was with his raggedy and speccy four-eyed wife/partner. They were buying a big bottle of Dr Pepper, a big bottle of full-fat Cola, a big bottle of some other pop and about 3 cases of various types of lager. Must be one who's moved down here and made a bit of money for himself I suppose. Now rushing out to spend it all on things he's always dreamed of.

I knew he was an Everton fan because he was wearing a lurid purple Everton shirt. A really strange sort of colour it was. I think I've only ever previously seen it on one of Liberace's crushed velvet suits.

I caught his eye and very nearly shouted out "Richarlison!" and gave him a big thumbs up and a beaming smile. But in the end I didn't."
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: MexicanToffee on July 25, 2018, 09:37:25 AM
Just a question, how does he qualify for a work permit?.... he's never played for the national team.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on July 25, 2018, 09:41:51 AM
Just a question, how does he qualify for a work permit?.... he's never played for the national team.


This should answer the question - http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/watfordfc/watfordfcnews/15446183.Richarlison__Why_Brazilian_starlet_could_get_a_work_permit_without_international_caps/
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: MexicanToffee on July 25, 2018, 09:45:54 AM
This should answer the question - http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/watfordfc/watfordfcnews/15446183.Richarlison__Why_Brazilian_starlet_could_get_a_work_permit_without_international_caps/
Cheers.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Fynci on July 25, 2018, 10:38:11 AM
Surprised he's not speaking English... he must've been in the UK 12 months.

But at least Silva can communicate with him in Portuguese.

Iíve been in The Netherlands for 18 years and my Dutch is on Steve McLarenís level :s
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lxxx on July 25, 2018, 01:03:08 PM
Wish Schneiderlin would just up his game again. Looked quality in his first season.

Wish people would stop holding onto this hope. He had half a dozen decent games then got injured and hasnít been seen since.
His last run of sustained form was at Southampton four years ago. Heís gone. Needed replacing this summer.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Hawkandro on July 25, 2018, 02:38:15 PM
Wish people would stop holding onto this hope. He had half a dozen decent games then got injured and hasn’t been seen since.
His last run of sustained form was at Southampton four years ago. He’s gone. Needed replacing this summer.

Yep, few of the lads in work are United season ticket holders, and they all said they were saying the same thing when he signed for them. Think this guy has been found out badly.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 25, 2018, 02:47:28 PM
Re Morgan. I remember him being one of the stand out midfielders in the league for a sustained period at Southampton.

Is this my memory just being shite?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on July 25, 2018, 03:05:20 PM
He looks so much bigger than 5í10Ē.

Is he bigger than Mason Holgate?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lxxx on July 25, 2018, 03:15:18 PM
Re Morgan. I remember him being one of the stand out midfielders in the league for a sustained period at Southampton.

Is this my memory just being shite?
I think he was, when he was playing for his big move. Two six figure a week deals later and his heart doesnít look like itís in it.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 25, 2018, 03:19:04 PM
Is he bigger than Mason Holgate?

Can we stop this now please?

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on July 25, 2018, 03:25:32 PM
Can we stop this now please?



Nope
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Brownie on July 25, 2018, 03:44:34 PM
I was checking out a Watford Forum and came across this clinker, also Marco is known as the snake, who wears a large timepiece.


"I saw an Everton fan in the supermarket yesterday. He was going a bit bald and was on the next checkout over from me, paying for his shopping and was with his raggedy and speccy four-eyed wife/partner. They were buying a big bottle of Dr Pepper, a big bottle of full-fat Cola, a big bottle of some other pop and about 3 cases of various types of lager. Must be one who's moved down here and made a bit of money for himself I suppose. Now rushing out to spend it all on things he's always dreamed of.

I knew he was an Everton fan because he was wearing a lurid purple Everton shirt. A really strange sort of colour it was. I think I've only ever previously seen it on one of Liberace's crushed velvet suits.

I caught his eye and very nearly shouted out "Richarlison!" and gave him a big thumbs up and a beaming smile. But in the end I didn't."

As if Watford is such a Mecca. Bellends
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 25, 2018, 03:45:19 PM
Can we stop this now please?



Of all the badly shit chats we have to put up with, this one is my favourite by a long, long way.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: BlueMaquis on July 25, 2018, 03:52:29 PM
I was checking out a Watford Forum and came across this clinker, also Marco is known as the snake, who wears a large timepiece.


"I saw an Everton fan in the supermarket yesterday. He was going a bit bald and was on the next checkout over from me, paying for his shopping and was with his raggedy and speccy four-eyed wife/partner. They were buying a big bottle of Dr Pepper, a big bottle of full-fat Cola, a big bottle of some other pop and about 3 cases of various types of lager. Must be one who's moved down here and made a bit of money for himself I suppose. Now rushing out to spend it all on things he's always dreamed of.

I knew he was an Everton fan because he was wearing a lurid purple Everton shirt. A really strange sort of colour it was. I think I've only ever previously seen it on one of Liberace's crushed velvet suits.

I caught his eye and very nearly shouted out "Richarlison!" and gave him a big thumbs up and a beaming smile. But in the end I didn't."

Full-fat cola?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 25, 2018, 03:52:46 PM
Of all the badly shit chats we have to put up with, this one is my favourite by a long, long way.

As bad as the arteta money and Belgian dads chat for me.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lincs Toffee on July 25, 2018, 03:55:26 PM
Haha! Thankfully I think he's retired now. Loved Motty but he hung around a bit too long.
Nah mate, he has signed a deal with Talkshite to commentate on their live matches and also discuss the games in the week with that twat Durham
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ramjam on July 25, 2018, 03:55:41 PM
As bad as the arteta money and Belgian dads chat for me.
Letís not forget the delegation team and thereís a player in there somewhere
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 25, 2018, 04:01:26 PM
Skem butty van is probably bottom of the pile for me.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 25, 2018, 04:09:34 PM
Skem butty van is probably bottom of the pile for me.

I donít mind that one, it was initially pretty funny
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 25, 2018, 04:55:13 PM
Was the user @JoeHart (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1795) who said the infamous skem butty van shout?

Is he still knocking about?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 25, 2018, 05:43:16 PM
A young  arteta would be perfect as the outlet midfielder we need. Miss him and cahill

Arteta. Yes.

Cahill. Nah.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 25, 2018, 05:57:31 PM
Loads of tweets like this, absolutely ridiculous comparison, the replies are great though

https://twitter.com/Sporf/status/1022042523005591552
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Optimistic Blue on July 25, 2018, 06:01:43 PM
So is he the best Brazilian ever to play for Everton? I think he has all the potential to be right up there.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 25, 2018, 06:08:38 PM
Was the user @JoeHart (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1795) who said the infamous skem butty van shout?

Is he still knocking about?
Yeah it was
He was right tho
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Brownie on July 25, 2018, 06:08:52 PM
Loads of tweets like this, absolutely ridiculous comparison, the replies are great though

https://twitter.com/Sporf/status/1022042523005591552

How fucking thick are the general population?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 25, 2018, 06:11:15 PM
Really annoying isnít it.

Finding the blues worse tho Ďfuckin joke this clubí have a fucking day off.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 25, 2018, 06:25:39 PM
West Ham play 40+ million for Anderson - media go wild, what a signing etc - no prem experience
Shite pay 40+ million for Fabinho - media lap it up, it's their year etc - no prem experience
Shite pay world record fee for Alison - media wank themselves into a frenzy - no prem experience
We pay 35 million for Richarlison - media mock us for overpaying, compare fees from 20+ years ago
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ramjam on July 25, 2018, 06:27:09 PM
West Ham play 40+ million for Anderson - media go wild, what a signing etc - no prem experience
Shite pay 40+ million for Fabinho - media lap it up, it's their year etc - no prem experience
Shite pay world record fee for Alison - media wank themselves into a frenzy - no prem experience
We pay 35 million for Richarlison - media mock us for overpaying, compare fees from 20+ years ago
Itís a fuckin joke ent it
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: themilkycoffees on July 25, 2018, 06:30:57 PM
It's nothing new though. They did it all last summer and they were proved mostly right. Only Pickford and Sigurdsson worked out, and only Pickford really justified his value. Fingers crossed Richarlison can be a success this season.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blue slug on July 25, 2018, 06:32:21 PM
West Ham play 40+ million for Anderson - media go wild, what a signing etc - no prem experience
Shite pay 40+ million for Fabinho - media lap it up, it's their year etc - no prem experience
Shite pay world record fee for Alison - media wank themselves into a frenzy - no prem experience
We pay 35 million for Richarlison - media mock us for overpaying, compare fees from 20+ years ago

Totally this mate i'm sick of it, the media truly are against us. My mate this morning whose an evertonian to said he was embarrassed  at the price for richarlison, safe to say I gave him a good dressing down and explained it like you have macca and the fact he has at least played premier league footy whereas the others haven't. I also explained to him the reason he faded towards end of season was down to playing 70 matches coming from the Brazilian league, he hasn't responded to me yet
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 25, 2018, 06:35:42 PM
35 million isn't really a lot these days. It's the going rate for a very good player.

Sure, it might end up at 40 or 50 million depending on what report you believe. But if it does, it proves he's been worth it to trigger those add ons.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: GLewis on July 25, 2018, 06:37:37 PM
Bar the odd freak player, wide forwards rarely score 15 league goals, double figures is still a good return.

If he scores 10 in either of the next two seasons (difficult but not impossible) weíd be able to sell him for a good profit.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ramjam on July 25, 2018, 06:39:17 PM
Bar the odd freak player, wide forwards rarely score 15 league goals, double figures is still a good return.

If he scores 10 in either of the next two seasons (difficult but not impossible) we'd be able to sell him for a good profit.
I think he definitely score more than 10 per season, Iíll be surprised if he doesnít score 15
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: themilkycoffees on July 25, 2018, 06:44:50 PM
I think he definitely score more than 10 per season, Iíll be surprised if he doesnít score 15

I'd get ready to be surprised mate. He's still a very young player. 10 would be a good return, 15 excellent.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: GLewis on July 25, 2018, 06:46:02 PM
I think he definitely score more than 10 per season, I’ll be surprised if he doesn’t score 15

It will depend on where our attacking emphasis is.

Off top of my head I can think of salah, Sanchez, Sterling who score 15 league goals. Maybe Son got close last year.

But they play for the best teams. We’d have to explode attacking wise to provide that platform to get 15+ or channel everything at him.

10 is a decent target I’d say, in the short term
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 25, 2018, 06:47:06 PM
Bar the odd freak player, wide forwards rarely score 15 league goals, double figures is still a good return.

If he scores 10 in either of the next two seasons (difficult but not impossible) weíd be able to sell him for a good profit.

Absolutely.

Plus based on the fact Martyn Waghorn has just gone for £12m despite being arguably one of the crappest players ever, if richarlison spends the next 2 years cleaning boots and working in the canteen we should break even.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Hesmenos on July 25, 2018, 06:48:17 PM
I think all of our wingers combined didn't get 15 last year. 10 would be a great return.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ramjam on July 25, 2018, 06:49:16 PM
I'd get ready to be surprised mate. He's still a very young player. 10 would be a good return, 15 excellent.
Iíve got a good feeling about this one and want to remain optimistic, he looks like a real athlete ready to run defences ragged. Along with Siggy, Walcott, Touson pressing forward I can see goals this season. Only problem is the back end.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 25, 2018, 06:51:27 PM
Cahill rarely got more than 10 a season and he was deemed a good finisher and he played centrally.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lazarou on July 25, 2018, 06:55:30 PM
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 25, 2018, 06:59:28 PM
The target for attacking midfield players should always be double figures in both goals and assists.

Even if he was to get 11 goals and say only 5 assists he still wouldíve had a good season though.

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 25, 2018, 07:00:11 PM
I think he definitely score more than 10 per season, I’ll be surprised if he doesn’t score 15

Don’t do it to yourself.

If your 21/22 year old winger scores anywhere near 10 you should be overjoyed.

Players who tend to get that or above regularly are your Hazard, Son, Sanchez, Arnautovic has got 11 twice, Mahrez, think pedro once or twice, Manť and salah obviously, our boy Theo of course.

Edit: rahhhheeeeem
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ramjam on July 25, 2018, 07:01:14 PM
It will depend on where our attacking emphasis is.

Off top of my head I can think of salah, Sanchez, Sterling who score 15 league goals. Maybe Son got close last year.

But they play for the best teams. We'd have to explode attacking wise to provide that platform to get 15+ or channel everything at him.

10 is a decent target I'd say, in the short term
Kane & Lukaku
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Gash on July 25, 2018, 07:08:19 PM
Absolutely.

Plus based on the fact Martyn Waghorn has just gone for £12m despite being arguably one of the crappest players ever, if richarlison spends the next 2 years cleaning boots and working in the canteen we should break even.

It's £8m and heavily linked to add ons apparently. 16 goals and 11 assists, £8m is probably the norm these days for a goal scorer in the Championship. Nice lift when they only paid £250k for him.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Robioto on July 25, 2018, 07:30:49 PM
Kane & Lukaku

They are centre forwards not wingers. You may have missed the point of @GLewis (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=258) 's post.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 25, 2018, 07:49:48 PM
It's £8m and heavily linked to add ons apparently. 16 goals and 11 assists, £8m is probably the norm these days for a goal scorer in the Championship. Nice lift when they only paid £250k for him.

Fair enough.

Donít believe everything you read online kids!
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Cassius on July 25, 2018, 07:51:21 PM

Imagine how a player like this must feel on your first day at Everton and Finch Farm, when you've spent your last 12 months at Watford, where I assume it would have been done at the local leisure centre with a gang of mockney youths snapping at your ankles, gasping for selfies while you go through your medical.
Title: Richarlison
Post by: arteta4spain on July 25, 2018, 08:39:14 PM
I don't get this "if he proves his worth we can sell him for this muchĒ why do we need to sell? If he's playing to his potential or even playing beyond what we're expecting then we need to keep him. Sick of the thinking that we have to sell players once they have a good season. Too much chopping and changing if we do that. If we don't win things then fine I get that and the player/s might want to leave. I just don't see the need to justify the price we've paid for a player by saying we can make a profit.
I get that we should be financially prudent but still it has a negative defeatist attitude to me.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Cereal Killer on July 25, 2018, 08:46:45 PM
I don't get this "if he proves his worth we can sell him for this muchĒ why do we need to sell? If he's playing to his potential or even playing beyond what we're expecting then we need to keep him. Sick of the thinking that we have to sell players once they have a good season. Too much chopping and changing if we do that. If we don't win things then fine I get that and the player/s might want to leave. I just don't see the need to justify the price we've paid for a player by saying we can make a profit.
I get that we should be financially prudent but still it has a negative defeatist attitude to me.

Yeah I'd prefer if we get no return on him cos he's retired at 35 after 14 years of winning trophy after trophy....
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 25, 2018, 08:59:46 PM
@arteta4spain (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=422) @Cereal Killer (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=4774)

Yeah of course, just mean in light of every man and his dog saying itís a shite deal and we should have just gone back in time and bought zidane for the same money - itís not THAT expensive relative to transfer fees atm and his potential.

Plus as a club we should concentrate a bit more on bringing in players that are a) boss and b) we can see for more when we need to.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 25, 2018, 09:05:35 PM
It's nothing new though. They did it all last summer and they were proved mostly right. Only Pickford and Sigurdsson worked out, and only Pickford really justified his value. Fingers crossed Richarlison can be a success this season.

They did the opposite last year. They are now telling what should have been last years story
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: themilkycoffees on July 25, 2018, 09:10:17 PM
Talking more about fans of other clubs there myself. Either way, let's hope for a different result this season.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on July 25, 2018, 09:13:52 PM
Talking more about fans of other clubs there myself. Either way, let's hope for a different result this season.

Fuck um. Itís just an easy story to tell. Just add these to the list of our previous bad buys. The truth is theyíve no clue what they are talking about. Our signings will prove their worth on the pitch
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: kramer0 on July 25, 2018, 09:46:32 PM
We still have the stink of the Bolasie and Sigurdsson deals on us, hence much of the derision from the media and supporters of other clubs.

This is not the same type of transfer. Richarlison's shot profile and ability to win fouls suggest that he's well capable of growing in to the fee, especially given how young he is.

One or two good seasons and clubs at the top of the league will be calling for him.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on July 25, 2018, 09:59:46 PM
The level of trolling and misinformation from fans of other clubs (including the brainless cult of RS) has gone to new levels with this signing.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 25, 2018, 10:05:55 PM
I remember when we paid 2.5 million for Cottee, we'd over paid.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Evertonian in NC on July 25, 2018, 10:10:15 PM
It's nothing new though. They did it all last summer and they were proved mostly right. Only Pickford and Sigurdsson worked out, and only Pickford really justified his value. Fingers crossed Richarlison can be a success this season.

I maintain that Pickford was an absolute steal, and thought so prior to the World Cup.  To me, the worst combination of business last summer is what we did with United (the low fee on Lukaku and as much wages of Rooney's as we took on).
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 26, 2018, 09:19:10 AM
Weíll easily double our money on Richarlison next summer when Silva buys him for 100 million for his next club.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ramjam on July 26, 2018, 10:08:33 AM
We'll easily double our money on Richarlison next summer when Silva buys him for 100 million for his next club.
Pessimist
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Toddacelli on July 26, 2018, 02:17:44 PM
This is really worth posting again.

Heís a relentlessly positive, big, powerful nuisance



Always liked how aggressive and direct he was but didn't realise how strong he is. The biggest thing for me on this vid though is the weight of some of his forward passing - it's sooooo good!
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Toddacelli on July 26, 2018, 02:30:11 PM
Imagine how a player like this must feel on your first day at Everton and Finch Farm, when you've spent your last 12 months at Watford, where I assume it would have been done at the local leisure centre with a gang of mockney youths snapping at your ankles, gasping for selfies while you go through your medical.

I thought your post was a bit snobby to be honest. Then I looked up Watford's training ground and found out you're not far off the mark. Their facilities are on the site of a local uni. It's also right next door to Arsenal's training ground.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lazarou on July 26, 2018, 02:40:36 PM
He looks a grafter as well as some skills. He will do well for us and I am sure we will love him here.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on July 26, 2018, 03:23:20 PM
https://twitter.com/UTFT1878/status/1022188623196835840
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: themilkycoffees on July 26, 2018, 03:35:52 PM
https://twitter.com/UTFT1878/status/1022188623196835840

Proper Championship song. "Wears a magic hat" makes me shudder.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blue slug on July 26, 2018, 06:06:06 PM
I've seen worse suggestions on here
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Cassius on July 26, 2018, 07:41:51 PM
I thought your post was a bit snobby to be honest. Then I looked up Watford's training ground and found out you're not far off the mark. Their facilities are on the site of a local uni. It's also right next door to Arsenal's training ground.

I wrote it hoping Watford fans came on here and read it, just to wind them up! I have no idea what their facilities are like.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: GLewis on July 26, 2018, 07:55:13 PM
Proper Championship song. "Wears a magic hat" makes me shudder.


Was a Utd song for Keane wasnít it?

Either way better if we came up with something original.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: themilkycoffees on July 26, 2018, 07:57:00 PM
Not too sure, quite possibly. I know Burnley sang it for Keane. It's a shocker.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Evertonian in NC on July 26, 2018, 08:05:08 PM
Until I hear the crowd sing "Niasse!  Niasse!  He scores 'em with his ass!!" I will never abide by any other song ideas.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Danny on July 26, 2018, 08:24:32 PM
Until I hear the crowd sing "Niasse!  Niasse!  He scores 'em with his ass!!" I will never abide by any other song ideas.

He'll have to stop scoring with his cock first
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 27, 2018, 03:13:28 AM
Hes a bit good isnít he.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Toffee_4_Life on July 27, 2018, 03:16:57 AM
Hes a bit good isnít he.

The stream quality along with the score made me give up at half time.

Richarlison come on and actually shown something has he?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ramjam on July 27, 2018, 03:19:30 AM
The stream quality along with the score made me give up at half time.

Richarlison come on and actually shown something has he?
He must be wondering what the fuck have I done to be transferred here
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blueToffee on July 27, 2018, 03:39:47 AM
1 down and it shows at least that our current setup has an eye for a good player.

Just need a good 4 or 5 more of the same quality.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 27, 2018, 03:41:03 AM
He must be wondering what the fuck have I done to be transferred here

It's funny, we seem to say that about every player after they've played their first game for us lol
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Shogun on July 27, 2018, 04:35:48 AM
Going to be a star this lad.

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Martip on July 27, 2018, 04:37:39 AM
Going to be a star this lad.
I take it he played well ?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: kramer0 on July 27, 2018, 05:18:50 AM
Things I Liked:

(1) Was always showing for the ball in the half-spaces.
(2) Seems to have enough trickery to advance the ball into the box.
(3) Appears to actually know where his teammates are in the final third.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on July 27, 2018, 05:50:40 AM
Wonít take longer than one month for people to realise this was actually a very good piece of business.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: dunkster on July 27, 2018, 05:52:34 AM
Maybe he should play more centrally then.
Moving into space, showing for the ball, eye for a pass. Maybe wasted out wide
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: dunkster on July 27, 2018, 05:52:55 AM
Never watched the game by the way
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 27, 2018, 05:55:47 AM
Can't wait to see Walcott in the team with Richarlison. Those two are light years ahead in terms of thought and footballing brains.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Fynci on July 27, 2018, 06:25:21 AM
I take it he played well ?

He showed that he is our best player within 25 minutes of coming onto the pitch. I was not sure what to make of the signing but if this is anything to go by then he was a bargain.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bob Sacamano on July 27, 2018, 06:26:42 AM
Gutted I missed his first outing.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 27, 2018, 06:29:35 AM
The pinpoint outside of the boot cross onto Tosunís lacklustre head was a particular highlight
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 27, 2018, 06:36:24 AM
Gutted I missed his first outing.

With commentary that is far better than Graham Stuartís


Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ramjam on July 27, 2018, 08:08:17 AM
That was grim watching, Pennington, shite, JJK, shite, Williams, shite, Touson missed a hat trick and Steklinberg getting down like a retired whore, finished at this level.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Glory on July 27, 2018, 10:51:40 AM
Bit harsh on JJK like. Only a young lad who showed a lot last season. Rest of 'em you can bin.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: dunkster on July 27, 2018, 02:36:49 PM
Who was our no. 6 that their guy barged over like a school girl for their third?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lxxx on July 27, 2018, 02:39:44 PM
Who was our no. 6 that their guy barged over like a school girl for their third?

Jags.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 27, 2018, 02:41:58 PM
Jags.

Yeah, he looked weak as piss.

Mind you, it did look like a foul.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lxxx on July 27, 2018, 02:42:43 PM
Yeah, he looked weak as piss.

Mind you, it did look like a foul.

Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and say he was off balance.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on July 27, 2018, 02:45:29 PM
Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and say he was off balance.

Yes, that was definitely a factor.

I bet heís well embarassed by it, though!  ;D
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: dunkster on July 27, 2018, 02:46:23 PM
Looked like a shoulder coming together that usually a defender ownes.
To be honest those highlights were all I've seen and all three the defending was local pub team level.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on July 28, 2018, 02:04:50 AM
Was only a friendly and it was against former champions..cheer up we're boss...
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on July 30, 2018, 03:32:26 AM
Superb article:

https://www.footballfancast.com/premier-league/everton/why-criticism-of-evertons-spending-is-rank-hypocrisy-from-the-big-club-brigade
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 30, 2018, 03:42:39 AM
Has this already been posted?

https://statsbomb.com/2018/07/in-defense-of-evertons-richarlison-purchase/
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on July 30, 2018, 03:44:14 AM
The only defence of the Richarlison deal I want to see is him ripping up the opposition next season ala Salah.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: kramer0 on July 30, 2018, 03:48:48 AM
Has this already been posted?

https://statsbomb.com/2018/07/in-defense-of-evertons-richarlison-purchase/

The first few paragraphs of that should be mandatory reading.

Quote
Pay for what a player is going to produce, donít pay for what theyíve already done.

Words to live by if youíre involved in transfers.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Goaljira on July 30, 2018, 04:03:56 AM
He averaged 3 shots a game?  Thats more than we had in some whole months last season.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on July 30, 2018, 04:41:42 AM
Yep, heís potentially on the cusp of a monster year.

I know people were lapping up the Everton overpaying meme but this deal is nothing like Sig. this one actually might actually work out, and it was a skill set we were desperate for.

Hope we go nowhere near doucore though, Iíve gone right off that.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lxxx on July 30, 2018, 04:43:11 AM
I just hope we donít become a one trick pony until teams work out, by 20 mins into the Wolves game, what our one trick is and cut it out.

Itís why a creative midfielder is a must.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: stirlingblue on July 31, 2018, 06:15:27 PM
Interesting to see him saying today that he can play as a number 9.

ďI can play as a number nine or a winger on either side,Ē he said. ďI can play in whichever position the manager asks. I want to be in the team and help the team and be good on the field.

ďSince I was a child I wanted to help the defence. I do not want to just play in attack. In football today, you have to play defensively and offensively Ė in the Premier League especially.

ďI will put everything I have on the field to try to help Everton win.

ďThe club expect a lot from me. I will do my best to be the best player I can be and help Everton in any way I can. I just want to play to the best of my ability.Ē
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lxxx on July 31, 2018, 06:40:39 PM
Interesting to see him saying today that he can play as a number 9.

“I can play as a number nine or a winger on either side,” he said. “I can play in whichever position the manager asks. I want to be in the team and help the team and be good on the field.

“Since I was a child I wanted to help the defence. I do not want to just play in attack. In football today, you have to play defensively and offensively – in the Premier League especially.

“I will put everything I have on the field to try to help Everton win.

“The club expect a lot from me. I will do my best to be the best player I can be and help Everton in any way I can. I just want to play to the best of my ability.”

Nice. Seems quite a humble kid too which always goes a long way.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: arteta4spain on July 31, 2018, 06:44:35 PM
Interesting to see him saying today that he can play as a number 9.

"I can play as a number nine or a winger on either side,Ē he said. "I can play in whichever position the manager asks. I want to be in the team and help the team and be good on the field.

"Since I was a child I wanted to help the defence. I do not want to just play in attack. In football today, you have to play defensively and offensively Ė in the Premier League especially.

"I will put everything I have on the field to try to help Everton win.

"The club expect a lot from me. I will do my best to be the best player I can be and help Everton in any way I can. I just want to play to the best of my ability.Ē
I fucking love him, thatís what you want from your attacking players. Heís willing to play across the front three and understands that he needs to help defensively. Can he have a word with Mirallas then, if he had an ounce of this kids attitude heíd be a great player.
Think Richarlison will fit in quite nicely here and I think the fans will love him. :-)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluenose 91 on July 31, 2018, 06:46:29 PM
He's going to be fucking boss yano.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: 74Blue on July 31, 2018, 07:23:33 PM
I quite like that he's not afraid to put a shift in and track back too. Seen a couple of glimpses of his strength too in the couple of pre-season appearances so far. Strong, quick, eye for goal and prepared to work hard. What more can you ask for in a player?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: themilkycoffees on July 31, 2018, 07:25:24 PM
If he can get to double figures and deliver on the promises in his quotes, we'll have a player on our hands.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lxxx on July 31, 2018, 08:13:27 PM
If he can get to double figures and deliver on the promises in his quotes, we'll have a player on our hands.

If all our players we expect to get double figures actually achieve double figures we'll all be wondering what the worry was all about.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: themilkycoffees on July 31, 2018, 08:24:10 PM
If all our players we expect to get double figures actually achieve double figures we'll all be wondering what the worry was all about.

I would only really expect double figures from Tosun if he's our main striker, but wouldn't be surprised to see Richarlison get there too.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lxxx on July 31, 2018, 08:27:31 PM
I would only really expect double figures from Tosun if he's our main striker, but wouldn't be surprised to see Richarlison get there too.


You could make very valid cases for Walcott and Sig too, in a system that encouraged attacking intent. It'll be interesting to see how we start the season. 
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Outworlder47 on July 31, 2018, 11:16:29 PM
I would only really expect double figures from Tosun if he's our main striker, but wouldn't be surprised to see Richarlison get there too.


Depending on whose Expected Goals model you look at, his performance reflected either 9 or 12 xG, compared to his actual 5 scored. That's all based on angle, distance to goal, and other factors. So a double-digit return wouldn't be out of the question for Richarlison by any stretch, if he continues getting into dangerous positions and can tighten up the finishing (you could probably make the argument that because he didn't have an off-season to speak of before coming to England, he may have been at less than 100% when the goals dried up...).
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 05, 2018, 12:19:15 AM
Best player we have isnt he.

https://twitter.com/ToffeeTVEFC/status/1025783029468413953
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on August 05, 2018, 12:20:28 AM
The kid's on his way to becoming a star.

The media will be laughing on the other side of their faces in a few years time when we double our money on him.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: 74Blue on August 05, 2018, 12:30:04 AM
The kid's on his way to becoming a star.

The media will be laughing on the other side of their faces in a few years time when we double our money on him.
Would love to see him achieve his ambitions right here thank you very much.
I don't understand the whole obsession with doubling our money on players. We should be working hard to keep them here and making sure that they have no need to leave to better their chances of winning trophies.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on August 05, 2018, 12:44:53 AM
Would love to see him achieve his ambitions right here thank you very much.
I don't understand the whole obsession with doubling our money on players. We should be working hard to keep them here and making sure that they have no need to leave to better their chances of winning trophies.

Simply because we will never become that club. He does well, we do well, he leaves for a bigger club, we make a huge profit and reinvest.

Especially as right now we have minimal assests that are going to make us money in the future.

It's a fact of life.

But yeah, will certainly enjoy him being here.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 05, 2018, 12:52:23 AM
I'm no longer bitching about his fee, FWIW.  He's bold and creative, whilst keeping his wits about him.  My not being overly impressed before must have been dictated by the rest of the meh Moose-Hornets setup/"talent" around him.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lxxx on August 05, 2018, 12:56:30 AM
Heíll be a superstar this kid. Seems humble and grounded too, not the type to have his dad agitating for a move away every international break.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Fynci on August 05, 2018, 01:31:01 AM
It's not often that 50 million looks like a bargain. Early days of course but from what I've seen of him he is really really special.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheTone on August 05, 2018, 01:32:11 AM
Heíll be a superstar this kid. Seems humble and grounded too, not the type to have his dad agitating for a move away every international break.

(https://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/kelso-burn-gif-13.gif)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: GLewis on August 05, 2018, 01:48:15 AM
It's not often that 50 million looks like a bargain. Early days of course but from what I've seen of him he is really really special.

£35m ;)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lxxx on August 05, 2018, 01:56:24 AM
£35m ;)

A lot less than our club record.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: dangermouse on August 05, 2018, 03:15:47 AM
This guy wonít be around long.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on August 05, 2018, 03:22:27 AM
Yup, give him a year or two before we replace him... with Neymar or Mbappe.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Toddacelli on August 05, 2018, 04:48:46 AM
Can't remember another winger so good at using his body physically.

I've seen some clips of Best shielding the ball and using his body but he's the only one that comes to mind.

Some of you guys who watch more footy than me might be able to add a couple of names.

Not comparing the rest of his game to Best, by the way, just pointing out what a rare and unique quality that is in a winger.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on August 05, 2018, 05:30:07 AM
Can't remember another winger so good at using his body physically.

I've seen some clips of Best shielding the ball and using his body but he's the only one that comes to mind.

Some of you guys who watch more footy than me might be able to add a couple of names.

Not comparing the rest of his game to Best, by the way, just pointing out what a rare and unique quality that is in a winger.

Mikel Arteta, when he played out wide.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Jimmywhack on August 05, 2018, 05:48:44 AM
Can't remember another winger so good at using his body physically.

I've seen some clips of Best shielding the ball and using his body but he's the only one that comes to mind.

Some of you guys who watch more footy than me might be able to add a couple of names.

Not comparing the rest of his game to Best, by the way, just pointing out what a rare and unique quality that is in a winger.
Pienaar for me was the best at using his body in tune with his first touch, he won us endless free kicks or he laid it off to fellini or baines.... I miss pienaar
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on August 05, 2018, 05:50:14 AM
He’s absolutely superb. We’ve finally got our next superstar attacker.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: gizzblue on August 05, 2018, 06:34:05 AM
The more i see of this lad the more im amazed he was at Watford ...and we actually got him .
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Escla on August 05, 2018, 01:37:36 PM
The more i see of this lad the more im amazed he was at Watford ...and we actually got him .

Silva knows a player when he sees one !
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on August 05, 2018, 02:02:19 PM
Be enjoyable to ram this fellas words down his throat:

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/721192/Everton-transfer-news-Richarlison-Marco-Silva-Premier-League-gossip
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Gash on August 05, 2018, 02:11:27 PM
Be enjoyable to ram this fellas words down his throat:

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/721192/Everton-transfer-news-Richarlison-Marco-Silva-Premier-League-gossip

Isn't that the guy who tries to be an ITK and claimed in the Daily Record that the Tierney deal was done?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on August 05, 2018, 02:19:58 PM
Isn't that the guy who tries to be an ITK and claimed in the Daily Record that the Tierney deal was done?

The very same
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lxxx on August 05, 2018, 02:33:23 PM
Just a bit worried he is so far ahead of the other players we look to overuse him and teams are able to work out how to stifle our main attacking outlet.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: chang on August 05, 2018, 02:51:09 PM
Quote
Be enjoyable to ram this fellas words down his throat:

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/721192/Everton-transfer-news-Richarlison-Marco-Silva-Premier-League-gossip

Just lazy when they throw in the "don't have a proven 20 goal a season player" - very few do, in fact last season only Salah 32, Kane 30, Aguero 21 and Vardy 20 .... only Salah and Kane got 20 from open play ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/top-scorers
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: MmmblueBernard on August 05, 2018, 03:06:30 PM
Just a bit worried he is so far ahead of the other players we look to overuse him and teams are able to work out how to stifle our main attacking outlet.

It worked for the shite with Suarez....
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Brownie on August 05, 2018, 03:22:06 PM
Be enjoyable to ram this fellas words down his throat:

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/721192/Everton-transfer-news-Richarlison-Marco-Silva-Premier-League-gossip

Who the fuck is he?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on August 05, 2018, 03:33:13 PM
I love him and would let him marry any of your sisters
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Toffee1 on August 05, 2018, 04:53:26 PM
Who the fuck is he?

Freelance journalist who lost his job at a red top paper because he writes/talks shite.

https://manchestercity.vitalfootball.co.uk/sun-remove-spurs-story-as-writer-is-sacked/
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: gizzblue on August 05, 2018, 06:25:52 PM
Who the fuck is he?

Just a nobody who historically knows nothing about nothing so makes shit up .

Even got the Richarlson fee wrong . lolol
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on August 05, 2018, 06:32:07 PM
It worked for the shite with Suarez....

I dunno, Sturridge and Sterling were pretty potent, as well as Spawny G
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Toddacelli on August 05, 2018, 07:04:16 PM
Just a bit worried he is so far ahead of the other players we look to overuse him and teams are able to work out how to stifle our main attacking outlet.

I agree, but if they are to over-commit on one flank, we have Theo and or Lookman on the other and provided we get someone in midfield who can switch play and hit a pass, I think we could exploit the extra space (if any).

Someone in the middle who can pass is absolutely vital now.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: SANA_DR0 on August 08, 2018, 08:38:44 PM
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on August 09, 2018, 01:57:18 AM
Get this mother fucker in your fantasy team.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Shogun on August 12, 2018, 02:41:25 AM
So incredibly obvious this fella is a star in the making.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: GLewis on August 12, 2018, 02:43:07 AM
So incredibly obvious this fella is a star in the making.

Without jumping to conclusions, he looks like someone that keeps making the step up without having to change much.

Great work rate and willing to get in the box.

Shame about the underhit pass to Walcott before half time.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Cozzie on August 12, 2018, 02:44:08 AM
Gonna get loads of bums off seats this fella this season.

Double figures for me. Looks class.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheTone on August 12, 2018, 02:45:15 AM
this guy is deffo the bees knees of a cats pyjamas
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Risky on August 12, 2018, 02:46:48 AM
He appears to have that rare combination of great ability and tremendous work rate.  Can't wait to see how he develops.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on August 12, 2018, 02:49:56 AM
Predicting 33 goals from him this season :)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: mikey_blue on August 12, 2018, 02:50:47 AM
Can see him playing as a striker soon. Barnard, Walcott and Lookman on the flanks.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Cozzie on August 12, 2018, 02:52:58 AM
Plays with a lovely swagger as well.

Our attacking options are gonna be amazing this season.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: GLewis on August 12, 2018, 02:53:44 AM
Can see him playing as a striker soon. Barnard, Walcott and Lookman on the flanks.

Donít see the need to move him from his position.

Some players score more coming from different angles as theyíre harder to pick up.

Ronaldo only gone up front as his legs started to go.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on August 12, 2018, 02:55:40 AM
Can see him playing as a striker soon. Barnard, Walcott and Lookman on the flanks.

Maybe.

On the wing, though, he will always have the size and power advantage, which he would often relinquish down the middle (although Iím aware that his balance and skill would put him at an advantage against most CBís, so itís swings and roundabouts in a way)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on August 12, 2018, 02:57:29 AM
His work rate was spot on, already proved the doubters wrong
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: GLewis on August 12, 2018, 02:58:30 AM
Maybe.

On the wing, though, he will always have the size and power advantage, which he would often relinquish down the middle (although Iím aware that his balance and skill would put him at an advantage against most CBís, so itís swings and roundabouts in a way)

Itís just that when out wide youíre mainly facing forward or diagonally.

Strikers spend a lot of the time not facing the goal.

You also have to be aware of players being all around you (both for and in opposition).

Itís not as easy as it seems to move there.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheTone on August 12, 2018, 03:01:00 AM
Merson must be fuming
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on August 12, 2018, 03:10:12 AM
Itís just that when out wide youíre mainly facing forward or diagonally.

Strikers spend a lot of the time not facing the goal.

You also have to be aware of players being all around you (both for and in opposition).

Itís not as easy as it seems to move there.

Today he showed he can do it from both positions. Centrally and cutting in from the wing.

That finish was exquisite though. Type of finish we often see other teams make and never us.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on August 12, 2018, 03:14:50 AM
Today he showed he can do it from both positions. Centrally and cutting in from the wing.

That finish was exquisite though. Type of finish we often see other teams make and never us.

He could drift, for sure, but primarily I see him doing more damage cutting in.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Jimmywhack on August 12, 2018, 03:15:54 AM
Transfer market was ruined cos of him
Statement of the year
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheTone on August 12, 2018, 03:17:55 AM
Today he showed he can do it from both positions. Centrally and cutting in from the wing.

That finish was exquisite though. Type of finish we often see other teams make and never us.

slotted it like Henry
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Toffee1 on August 12, 2018, 03:18:06 AM
Can't wait to see him and Bernard linking up, when he is fully fit.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Major Clanger on August 12, 2018, 03:45:10 AM
Can see him playing as a striker soon. Barnard, Walcott and Lookman on the flanks.

I can see your point but I think we're better off if he's got space to run at people.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Silas on August 12, 2018, 03:48:46 AM
We've waited fucking years to replace Pienaar on the left with quality so what do people want? For him to play as a striker. Madness.

No coincidence Baines looks better for having someone not shite ahead of him as well
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheTone on August 12, 2018, 03:51:43 AM
any news on his injury? was it just muscle fatigue?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Martip on August 12, 2018, 03:55:59 AM
Absolutely night and day with him and bolasie.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: mikey_blue on August 12, 2018, 04:00:27 AM
We've waited fucking years to replace Pienaar on the left with quality so what do people want? For him to play as a striker. Madness.

No coincidence Baines looks better for having someone not shite ahead of him as well

Iím not suggesting that we need to put him in the centre. Itís more to do with me thinking Silva would move him there to accommodate Bernard/ Lookman. If Tosun doesnít kick on, or he wants a more dynamic front three. He may decide to go for Richarlison or Walcott as his main striker.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on August 12, 2018, 04:01:29 AM
This is lovely, they all look genuinely pleased for him  :hug:


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkVl7XrXsAAjEFg?format=jpg)



(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkVl7XoX0AAnkON?format=jpg)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheTone on August 12, 2018, 04:03:46 AM
love an over sized pic me

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: BlueForYou on August 12, 2018, 04:06:11 AM
Play with a smile and the fans will smile with you
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on August 12, 2018, 04:07:14 AM
love an over sized pic me



Haha, I donít know how to make it shrink.

I could whisper ďMargaret Thatcher blowing DennisĒ into the photoís ear, I suppose 🤔
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheTone on August 12, 2018, 04:08:10 AM
Haha, I donít know how to make it shrink.

I could whisper ďMargaret Thatcher blowing DennisĒ into the photoís ear, I suppose 🤔

such a naughty boy  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Toffee1 on August 12, 2018, 04:12:43 AM
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2018/08/11/baines
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lazarou on August 12, 2018, 04:15:54 AM
slotted it like Henry
That's what I immediately thought. If he can be half the player he was he will be a bargain. Very hard to defend a player who wants to cut inside at pace. He will win lots of fouls doing that at the very least.

Made up he scored 2, have that you media fuckwits.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: dunkster on August 12, 2018, 04:41:13 AM
Cracking performance for sure. Said to guy who owns shop next to mine that I guarantee by end of season he will be seen as a snip at 35 million.
That was way before kick off
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lxxx on August 12, 2018, 04:49:09 AM
You can see why Silva wanted to take him with him. Some players just have it and he has it. Heíll only get better too.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on August 12, 2018, 04:54:00 AM
Richarlison is guaranteed to be injured or suspended for both derbies this year
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TrevorSteven on August 12, 2018, 05:20:45 AM
Iím not suggesting that we need to put him in the centre. Itís more to do with me thinking Silva would move him there to accommodate Bernard/ Lookman. If Tosun doesnít kick on, or he wants a more dynamic front three. He may decide to go for Richarlison or Walcott as his main striker.

Iíve been thinking the same but I guess it is bigger chance of Silva using Walcott there than Richarlison. With Walcott in front of Richarlison, Bernard, Lookman it would be an awfull lot of pace up front...Its gonna be interesting to see how Silva thinks.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Mick 1995 on August 12, 2018, 05:20:50 AM
Just remember lads, he is still a bit of a kid. His form will dip and he'll go through shit patches.

And that's ok.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: dekko on August 12, 2018, 05:21:45 AM
Iím also from Brasil.
When he speaks (in Portuguese) you see he is still just a humble boy that came from a poor background in Brazil. I hope he keeps it this way, enjoy his football  and does not let the fame, money, get to his head.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TrevorSteven on August 12, 2018, 05:36:12 AM
I just hope we donít become a one trick pony until teams work out, by 20 mins into the Wolves game, what our one trick is and cut it out.

Itís why a creative midfielder is a must.
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I just hope we donít become a one trick pony until teams work out, by 20 mins into the Wolves game, what our one trick is and cut it out.

Itís why a creative midfielder is a must.

Totally agree. We were impressive as an organized team but we lacked creativity. Bernard and Gomes is hopefully the answer to that.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Confucius on August 12, 2018, 12:13:02 PM
He is a physical specimen too. Big and strong. Going to be a great player if he can stay injury free.

This could of been you Ross. Itís the position you should play and you have all the physical attributes.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Juanito on August 12, 2018, 01:32:30 PM
He is a physical specimen too. Big and strong. Going to be a great player if he can stay injury free.

This could of been you Ross. Itís the position you should play and you have all the physical attributes.

Mentality between the two are miles apart, from different worlds. I also think very few English players have the right drive and application at a young age.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on August 12, 2018, 01:34:25 PM
This guy is the business.

Three years max before he makes massive move.

And to think people scoffed at us for spending 35mil on him.

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Juanito on August 12, 2018, 01:34:33 PM
Iím also from Brasil.
When he speaks (in Portuguese) you see he is still just a humble boy that came from a poor background in Brazil. I hope he keeps it this way, enjoy his football  and does not let the fame, money, get to his head.

I lived in Brasil for a few years and noticed his accent. What made you an Evertonian, Dekko? I have converted a lot of my Brazilian friends into Evertonians. A lot easier with Richarlison now.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: eugene on August 12, 2018, 01:48:52 PM
This guy is the business.

Three years max before he makes massive move.

And to think people scoffed at us for spending 35mil on him.
Unless we progress rapidly towards champion league, Usmanov enters the Frey and the new stadium starts to take shape. He will not need to go anywhere
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on August 12, 2018, 03:12:21 PM
Haha

https://twitter.com/joeheskethefc/status/1028381350401859586
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Cods on August 12, 2018, 03:45:25 PM
Totally not worth 35-40m....




Hahahahah!!!
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Gash on August 12, 2018, 03:58:10 PM
When you look at the likes of £30m for Luke Shaw four years ago and how much the market has inflated in that time the money for Richarlison isn't bad.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Jamokachi on August 12, 2018, 04:10:07 PM
When you look at the likes of £30m for Luke Shaw four years ago and how much the market has inflated in that time the money for Richarlison isn't bad.

So did Shaw ruin the transfer market?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: eugene on August 12, 2018, 04:24:50 PM
Itís fucking shearer that winds me upĒitís the letter of the lawĒ Geordie smug prick
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Gash on August 12, 2018, 04:32:54 PM
So did Shaw ruin the transfer market?

I'd imagine Merson probably thought he was a bargain.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Jamokachi on August 12, 2018, 04:35:11 PM
I'd imagine Merson probably thought he was a bargain.

English isn't he, must be good.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: gizzblue on August 12, 2018, 04:37:06 PM
I'd imagine Merson probably thought he was a bargain.

Just scored his first senior goal for man u ,surely he's worth double now.
media bias is a fucking joke .
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on August 12, 2018, 06:07:05 PM
Heís my favourite Everton player already. Superstar.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: stirlingblue on August 12, 2018, 07:13:00 PM
Heís going to win us a lot of free kicks this season, if Mina is as good in the air as he looked during the World Cup then Richarlison will be indirectly causing a lot of goals that way too
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Martip on August 12, 2018, 09:30:32 PM
Heís my favourite Everton player already. Superstar.
I'm a big fan of the graft he puts in as well as the creativity.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: gizzblue on August 12, 2018, 10:13:49 PM
Pundits way off on this one ....and he's now gonna spend the season making them all look even more twattish. lolol

Pace, power ,finishing ,eye for a pass all evident since he switched to blue ....if only we had more like him .step forward and be counted anybody .:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: dunkster on August 12, 2018, 10:25:50 PM
I'm sick of these so say experts making all these fuckin remarks..most of them are thick as fuck..
Merson....what a fuckin joke...No Paul, a waste of money is what you did with your own money when you snorted, gambled and pissed it away you twat.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: dekko on August 12, 2018, 11:23:27 PM
I lived in Brasil for a few years and noticed his accent. What made you an Evertonian, Dekko? I have converted a lot of my Brazilian friends into Evertonians. A lot easier with Richarlison now.

Father in law has blue blood. Heís from Liverpool, grew up hanging by the docks and sneaking in Goodison Park for free to watch Everton games when he was a kid.
Also Iím a Flamengo fan, Flamengo beat Liverpool in the 80s 3-0 in Japan with Zico, Junior... I really enjoyed cheering against Liverpool back then.
Both things just came together!
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: gizzblue on August 12, 2018, 11:29:26 PM
Father in law has blue blood. Heís from Liverpool, grew up hanging by the docks and sneaking in Goodison Park for free to watch Everton games when he was a kid.
Also Iím a Flamengo fan, Flamengo beat Liverpool in the 80s 3-0 in Japan with Zico, Junior... I really enjoyed cheering against Liverpool back then.
Both things just came together!

You must be loving out recent purchases ...here's hoping Bernard settles well too . :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Polledreng on August 12, 2018, 11:29:44 PM
Heís going to win us a lot of free kicks this season, if Mina is as good in the air as he looked during the World Cup then Richarlison will be indirectly causing a lot of goals that way too
just like he did for the first goal. As Mina wasnt around he had to score himself
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lincs Toffee on August 13, 2018, 12:51:01 AM
Any news about his injury yesterday, just cramp ?... donít know why the med staff quickly did the rolling hands sub sign tho but he looked to be moving freely at the end of the game
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on August 13, 2018, 01:09:58 AM
Any news about his injury yesterday, just cramp ?... donít know why the med staff quickly did the rolling hands sub sign tho but he looked to be moving freely at the end of the game

I reckon it was cramp. Think he put in the biggest shift of everyone. The camera's panned on him sitting in the dug out watching the game a few minutes after he came off. If it was an injury I doubt he'd be doing that, he'd be getting treatment.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluenose 91 on August 13, 2018, 01:13:13 AM
Absolutely love him already.

He's a pure match winner. Great signing.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: MexicanToffee on August 13, 2018, 01:28:56 AM
His second goal was just sublime... we really have a player on our books with this lad.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: eugene on August 13, 2018, 01:31:04 AM
His second goal was just sublime... we really have a player on our books with this lad.
Got a feeling m&m have a clue
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 13, 2018, 02:01:43 AM
https://twitter.com/_flunaticos_/status/1028693713172746241
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: eugene on August 13, 2018, 02:10:49 AM
https://twitter.com/_flunaticos_/status/1028693713172746241
See
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on August 13, 2018, 02:47:44 AM
What a beautiful Brazilian he is
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: arteta4spain on August 13, 2018, 02:50:11 AM
https://twitter.com/_flunaticos_/status/1028693713172746241
Was just about to post this. I fucking love him. The good thing is, if he fulfils his potential we donít even have to worry about him leaving if we improve with him. Despite the result yesterday Iím the most optimistic Iíve been in a long while.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lazarou on August 13, 2018, 02:51:34 AM
https://twitter.com/_flunaticos_/status/1028693713172746241
Right at home at Everton with gestures like that.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 13, 2018, 03:02:41 AM
Right at home at Everton with gestures like that.

And other side of the park you have Salah, the greatest man in the world, who ignores all the kids trying to get a photo.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lazarou on August 13, 2018, 03:06:23 AM
And other side of the park you have Salah, the greatest man in the world, who ignores all the kids trying to get a photo.
He likes Chechens though.

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on August 13, 2018, 03:44:09 AM
https://twitter.com/_flunaticos_/status/1028693713172746241

That was absolutely lovely 🧡😢
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Fynci on August 13, 2018, 03:56:09 AM
Right at home at Everton with gestures like that.

Yep, heís going to be loved here. Letís enjoy him while we can!
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Toffee1 on August 13, 2018, 04:11:01 AM
So glad we signed him, everything about him oozes class and humility and I can only see him improving both his level and ours.

That being said, I won't pick him for my fantasy teams as that is usually a curse for any of our players.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Mouse on August 13, 2018, 04:12:47 AM
https://twitter.com/_flunaticos_/status/1028693713172746241
Superb, thanks for that. Love him already.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Deano Blue Boy on August 13, 2018, 04:13:21 AM
My fantasy football thing is saying he has a calf injury
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: MmmblueBernard on August 13, 2018, 04:31:23 AM
He likes Chechens though.



Looks like heís smiling in an attempt to avoid getting kidnapped and/or bummed.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: AllyBlue14 on August 13, 2018, 03:07:07 PM
I have serious love for Jags, Seamus and Bainesy but this guy is already my favourite!
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: BlueMaquis on August 14, 2018, 07:22:31 PM
Does he remind anyone else of Barkley? In appearance
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: eugene on August 14, 2018, 07:39:29 PM
Yes he has a very similar body shape and hair cut and of course youth!
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 14, 2018, 08:30:20 PM
God he is fucking wonderful. A lad broke his arm celebrating the goal and Richarlison has visited him in hospital.

https://twitter.com/NeilHarrison92/status/1029351316831838208
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: eugene on August 14, 2018, 08:40:12 PM
God he is fucking wonderful. A lad broke his arm celebrating the goal and Richarlison has visited him in hospital.

https://twitter.com/NeilHarrison92/status/1029351316831838208
Fully agree just so humble and grounded
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on August 14, 2018, 09:12:08 PM
This lad is class.

Hope he stays this way.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Mouse on August 14, 2018, 10:25:53 PM
Love getting a player like this, similar to Coleman and Baines. Brings a whole new buzz to the club both on and off the pitch. Looking forward to Saturday and a new optimism at Goodison.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: DanDan on August 14, 2018, 10:29:38 PM
ooooh I wonder what I will get if I break my leg celebrating one of his goals this Saturday
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: pjk on August 14, 2018, 10:30:17 PM
Lets hope this lad never changes. He's quality. :)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Gary1878 on August 14, 2018, 11:10:40 PM
This guy is a cut above Barkley, both on and off the pitch. He seems extremely mature and humble, and it really shows on the pitch. Doesn't seem to panic and that finish for his second goal on Saturday was genuinely class.

The biggest problem with Barkley is that he has never matured from a prospect into a superstar. He doesn't want to take the game by the scruff of the neck and win it on his own. I hope Richarlison stays humble, but he needs to keep that desire on the pitch that Barkley has never really had.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Cozzie on August 15, 2018, 01:54:54 AM
I plan on breaking my penis to see what he does.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: SANA_DR0 on August 15, 2018, 02:36:58 AM
i saw another lad walking to the medics area after the first goal, he had what looked like a broken nose... gotta love that Richarlison...makes our own fans hurt them selves...

glad i was with the wolves fan in the hayward stand.. i had to remain calm :D
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on August 20, 2018, 01:53:46 PM
Every time this lad goes down my hearts in my mouth.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on August 20, 2018, 02:01:45 PM
Every time this lad goes down my hearts in my mouth.

Same here.

Every time the RS have a game changing player they are as resilient as cockroaches (even Salah was over his shoulder in weeks) plus their players are invariably very protected by the officials.

I just donít think we have the same protection, nor have we done a deal with the devil.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Waltzer on August 20, 2018, 03:29:23 PM
Every time this lad goes down my hearts in my mouth.

You must spend a fair amount of time with your heart in your mouth!! :)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Alanvideo on August 20, 2018, 03:38:43 PM
Don't know if already posted but after the final whistle and already subbed off ,he went to the Gwladys Street and gave his shirt to a fan.  Little gestures like this mean the world to our young fans.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lxxx on August 20, 2018, 04:00:40 PM
Don't know if already posted but after the final whistle and already subbed off ,he went to the Gwladys Street and gave his shirt to a fan.  Little gestures like this mean the world to our young fans.

Got a sensible and humble head of his shoulders. A decent person as well as an exceptional footballer.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ramjam on August 20, 2018, 04:12:22 PM
Don't know if already posted but after the final whistle and already subbed off ,he went to the Gwladys Street and gave his shirt to a fan.  Little gestures like this mean the world to our young fans.
Umbro must be loving it at least 40 or 50 extra shirt sales every season
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on August 20, 2018, 04:40:30 PM
You must spend a fair amount of time with your heart in your mouth!! :)

Mate when he turned funny and slipped in the first half I thought heíd Bolassieíd himself.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Alanvideo on August 20, 2018, 04:44:27 PM
Mate when he turned funny and slipped in the first half I thought heíd Bolassieíd himself.
.................exactly my thoughts .
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on August 20, 2018, 04:57:33 PM
Mate when he turned funny and slipped in the first half I thought heíd Bolassieíd himself.

Right infront of me that.

Looked genuinely bad.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lxxx on August 20, 2018, 05:05:43 PM
21 year old joints served him well when he contorted his body into that weird shape. Not much wear and tear on it yet, thankfully.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: 74Blue on August 20, 2018, 05:40:02 PM
Don't know if already posted but after the final whistle and already subbed off ,he went to the Gwladys Street and gave his shirt to a fan.  Little gestures like this mean the world to our young fans.
Yeah the young lad had "Can I have your shirt please Richarlison" or words to that effect written on a piece of paper in Portuguese.
He comes across really well and he's going to be a real fans favourite here if he carries on the way he has started here, scoring goals, grafting on the pitch and connecting with the fans.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Jamokachi on August 20, 2018, 05:49:14 PM
Mate when he turned funny and slipped in the first half I thought heíd Bolassieíd himself.

Don't... even...
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Brownie on August 20, 2018, 05:51:35 PM
Mate when he turned funny and slipped in the first half I thought heíd Bolassieíd himself.

I almost cried
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on August 20, 2018, 06:29:08 PM
It's great fun to read back over the first few pages of this thread, given what we think of the lad already.

Take 5 minutes out of your day, and have a gander.

Some posters come out of it better than others.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on August 20, 2018, 06:36:17 PM
If you were given a match worn shirt of a player like that, would you wash it or not?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on August 20, 2018, 06:50:56 PM
Here's a selection of early comments, when we were very close to signing him:

File this under things which didnt happen.

Seems like nothing is changing just getting shafted on price for mediocre players

Can't see Brands going for this, he'd be putting his bollocks on the chopping block in the first month of his new job. If the lad flops he'll be back in Eindhoven by next summer. File it under 'Bollocks' and get back to speculating about Lookman.

Feel sick reading that . I think the ludicrous fees have finally killed off my interest in the Premier League .

not arsed on price, would be happy with him here.

makes no sense what so ever,   have a feeling everyone is still playing footy manager in the back office 2020 edition

If the price is anywhere near those quoted we should make our excuses and leave.  :headbang:

This is Keane all over again. Over-paying for a player that no-one else is interested in.

Think his potential is really high.

Physical qualities as well as with the ball.

Fee massive but the right age (unlike say for Sig).

This is fucking terrible, buying average players and getting whacked to pay stupid fees. It's moronic.

Iím willing to back silva on this one.

Itís certainly a lot better than spending this money on a 28 year old.

Totally uninspiring signing. It's like we've just bought the new Panini football album and taken the same approach as the last regime. I didn't see anything last season that would in any way justify this type of fee.

Fucking furious if that fee is true. We'll be a laughing stock AGAIN

Plays good for 1/3 of a season and £50 million?!

People saying he played good under Silva, if he's worth £50 million he would have been good for the rest of the season regardless of the manager.

They get shaqiri for £13 million and we pay £50 mill for a player who is worth £25 mill at best?!

Please tell me I'm in a nightmare, fucking ridiculous

Great investment this, good age and bags of potential

Trying to link his dip in form with Silva's departure is desperate.

15mill for Wellbeck makes miles more sense than 50mill for a 15 game wonder.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on August 20, 2018, 06:54:27 PM
 :smug:
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on August 20, 2018, 06:56:04 PM
Here's a selection of early comments, when we were very close to signing him:


I donít see it myself, but what I would say is he actually underperformed his xg last year. Typically in one season wonder purple patch types you see them over perform and score a load of jammy goals so where they would maybe be expected to score 8 they score like 16 or whatever.

This says he shoots a lot and gets into positions to shoot a lot which is really good. Depends on the team making his chances and tactics (Marco ) and if someone always undershoots then it might mean they have a bad finish? But I think if you donít think about the dough heíd be a good player to have.

Iíd like to keep Lookman AND get this guy, but just saying, might not be the waste it feels atm.

Aw look at me being relentlessly-negative again. Same old same old ey.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on August 20, 2018, 06:57:46 PM
Aw look at me being relentlessly-negative again. Same old same old ey.

Sorry I didn't quote you. It wasn't personal. I just skimmed the first 10 pages.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Jamokachi on August 20, 2018, 06:57:46 PM
Here's a selection of early comments, when we were very close to signing him:

Usual suspects.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on August 20, 2018, 06:59:01 PM
Sorry I didn't quote you. It wasn't personal. I just skimmed the first 10 pages.

Haha nah itís alright, I actually thought my first reply on him was going to be much positive and Iíd already committed to the gag when I found out it was actually fairly fence-sitter-ish!

Only messing anyway I get the negative shout stuff.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: The Blue 3/4 of Liverpool on August 20, 2018, 06:59:37 PM
I reckon Bernard is going to be excellent too.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on August 20, 2018, 07:00:05 PM
Haha nah itís alright, I actually thought my first reply on him was going to be much positive and Iíd already committed to the gag when I found out it was actually fairly fence-sitter-ish!

Only messing anyway I get the negative shout stuff.

Thought it was impressively detailed and analytical tbh.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Lxxx on August 20, 2018, 07:00:32 PM
Alright alright!!
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on August 20, 2018, 07:07:11 PM
Thought it was impressively detailed and analytical tbh.

0 likes. Unappreciated in my own time like all great thinkers.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Audrey Horne on August 20, 2018, 08:45:11 PM
yessss look at me being right.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheTone on August 20, 2018, 09:46:31 PM
got one right at last
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on August 21, 2018, 12:40:33 AM
Nice little opinion piece on our little ray of samba sunshine


https://realsport101.com/news/sports/football/everton-talking-tactics-richarlison-a-perfect-fit-for-marco-silva/
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Toddacelli on August 21, 2018, 12:28:12 PM
Always liked how aggressive and direct he was but didn't realise how strong he is. The biggest thing for me on this vid though is the weight of some of his forward passing - it's sooooo good!

Ok let's scan the first 10 pages and see what my initial thoughts were - Because I genuinely couldn't remember. Fifty fucking nine pages fucking later...

Jesus! Late to the party as usual.

So in the pages before that I make a couple of shit jokes and tool @Tony Clifton (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=640) for putting up a giant picture of Phil Neal.

It takes me 60 pages and then 50% of my analysis is based on a YouTube vid.

I don't think I'm very good at NSNO. Sorry.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Simon Paul on August 23, 2018, 02:25:20 AM
you know that little flick he did over the Southampton defender's head?

I think I came a little bit when he did it. 

I made the noise, at least.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on August 23, 2018, 02:32:57 AM
still not seen the flick,  stream froze and when it came back he had been taken out,   commentator said thats what you get for showboating---of course--MOTD did not show it,   


searched nowt found   

should have tried harder

edit:found it now
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on August 23, 2018, 02:35:21 AM
still not seen the flick,  stream froze and when it came back he had been taken out,   commentator said thats what you get for showboating---of course--MOTD did not show it,   


searched nowt found

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Simon Paul on August 23, 2018, 02:35:37 AM
still not seen the flick,  stream froze and when it came back he had been taken out,   commentator said thats what you get for showboating---of course--MOTD did not show it,   


searched nowt found

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Brownie on August 23, 2018, 02:36:21 AM
Here's a selection of early comments, when we were very close to signing him:


Not surprised at some of those comments by certain posters
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Goaljira on August 23, 2018, 04:23:24 AM
you know that little flick he did over the Southampton defender's head?

I think I came a little bit when he did it. 

I made the noise, at least.

It was instant joy followed by sheer panic that the second bloke was just going to wipe him out for it.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on August 23, 2018, 05:01:33 AM
you know that little flick he did over the Southampton defender's head?

I think I came a little bit when he did it. 

I made the noise, at least.

I yelped in a packed boozer in Majorca when he nearly split himself in half, proper girly yelp
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Tinga on August 24, 2018, 06:25:23 AM
http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/16594345.richarlison-former-watford-man-out-to-win-premier-league-golden-boot-with-everton/

surprised I haven't seen this posted. I hope we can keep up with this lad, we'll have another Lukaku on our hands if not.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: AllyBlue14 on August 24, 2018, 01:06:26 PM
http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/16594345.richarlison-former-watford-man-out-to-win-premier-league-golden-boot-with-everton/

surprised I haven't seen this posted. I hope we can keep up with this lad, we'll have another Lukaku on our hands if not.

Some of the comments below that article are staggering:

'Well he has took a step back because the mighty horns are above Everton with loads of money in the pocket.'

'I hope he does well but not for Everton....his ambition must surely be a big club.'

'I honestly don't think he'd make our first eleven at present.'

' I hope he has a fantastic career and goes on to bigger and better things with a really big club (Neverton will never be a really big club).'

'He does realise that his playing for Everton doesnt he, not Man City or Chelsea or any of the other numerous teams that are better than Everton?'

At least Malcolm Poskett has his head screwed on:

'Good player, with a good attitude.
Silva utilises him in the right way, and gets the best out of him.
He is going to be a star of the PL going forward, and 40m will seem like a bargain for a 21 year old with his talent.'
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Brownie on August 24, 2018, 07:26:36 PM
Some of the comments below that article are staggering:

'Well he has took a step back because the mighty horns are above Everton with loads of money in the pocket.'

'I hope he does well but not for Everton....his ambition must surely be a big club.'

'I honestly don't think he'd make our first eleven at present.'

' I hope he has a fantastic career and goes on to bigger and better things with a really big club (Neverton will never be a really big club).'

'He does realise that his playing for Everton doesnt he, not Man City or Chelsea or any of the other numerous teams that are better than Everton?'

At least Malcolm Poskett has his head screwed on:

'Good player, with a good attitude.
Silva utilises him in the right way, and gets the best out of him.
He is going to be a star of the PL going forward, and 40m will seem like a bargain for a 21 year old with his talent.'


Some fucking high level delusion there. Above us after two games - congratulations, we'll send the us now. I hope we twat these cunts all over the place when we play them
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blue slug on August 24, 2018, 08:16:42 PM
Some fucking high level delusion there. Above us after two games - congratulations, we'll send the us now. I hope we twat these cunts all over the place when we play them

I didn't realise Watford fans aspired to be as delusional as Newcastle and Liverpool fans
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Toffee1 on August 24, 2018, 08:19:08 PM
Good luck to all those Watford fans revelling after winning two games on the bounce, because their Andy Warhol moment will be all too brief and normal service will be resumed.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on August 24, 2018, 08:28:41 PM
Small time shite from small time fans from a small time club, they will be back in the Championship soon enough
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on August 24, 2018, 08:30:04 PM
And they may have money in their pocket, but that was from selling Richarlison.

Had they kept him, he would be there and they wouldn't have any money in their pocket.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Robioto on August 24, 2018, 08:36:57 PM
Some of the comments below that article are staggering:

'Well he has took a step back because the mighty horns are above Everton with loads of money in the pocket.'

'I hope he does well but not for Everton....his ambition must surely be a big club.'

'I honestly don't think he'd make our first eleven at present.'

' I hope he has a fantastic career and goes on to bigger and better things with a really big club (Neverton will never be a really big club).'

'He does realise that his playing for Everton doesnt he, not Man City or Chelsea or any of the other numerous teams that are better than Everton?'

At least Malcolm Poskett has his head screwed on:

'Good player, with a good attitude.
Silva utilises him in the right way, and gets the best out of him.
He is going to be a star of the PL going forward, and 40m will seem like a bargain for a 21 year old with his talent.'


This is my favourite:

"Scores 3 scrappy goals the then thinks hes one of the best in the prem, nice one."

First one fair enough, but the awesome 2nd against Wolves and the header. Nope.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: gizzblue on August 24, 2018, 08:37:46 PM
Quietly confident he can continue to Piss them off all season  :thumbsup:

Delusion on a redshite level ....wonder if they think they're everyone's second favorite team .
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Brownie on August 24, 2018, 08:40:42 PM
Quietly confident he can continue to Piss them off all season  :thumbsup:

Delusion on a redshite level ....wonder if they think they're everyone's second favorite team .

They are.....for people who live in Watford
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Toffee1 on August 24, 2018, 10:11:29 PM
Quietly confident he can continue to Piss them off all season  :thumbsup:

Delusion on a redshite level ....wonder if they think they're everyone's second favorite team .

They are clinging on to the fact that the media likes to use the approach for Mr Silva as one of the (and in some sections the sole) reason (s), their season went down the pan last time round. The fact they sack managers on a frequent basis is conveniently forgotten.

The only good thing about Watford is the shopping centre, as it is a good place to do Christmas shopping, as it is fairly quiet (probably cause the residents of Watford can't wait to get out).
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on August 24, 2018, 11:55:01 PM
I hope when he slows down we stay nice and patient with him and nobody starts panning him!

Heís not likely to keep up anything close to this form, especially as he plays at 1000mph
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: bluenuck on August 24, 2018, 11:58:53 PM
I hope when he slows down we stay nice and patient with him and nobody starts panning him!

Heís not likely to keep up anything close to this form, especially as he plays at 1000mph

 lolol

Don't hope that. That hope will kill you.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: toffee_scot on August 25, 2018, 01:43:14 AM
If Watford don't like us then maybe they should stop trying to mimic us by adopting the Z Cars theme tune
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on August 25, 2018, 02:02:49 AM
I think Watford have slipped ahead of West Ham, Newcastle, Palace, and Tottenham (although I do like watching them under Pochettino)as my third most hated team.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on August 25, 2018, 02:15:49 AM
I think Watford have slipped ahead of West Ham, Newcastle, Palace, and Tottenham (although I do like watching them under Pochettino)as my third most hated team.

Whoís second
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on August 25, 2018, 02:16:29 AM
Whoís second

United, by a country mile
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bob Sacamano on August 25, 2018, 04:36:42 AM
Is there even any point in that football club? The only thing I know about them is that we beat them in an FA cup final. A completely irrelevant football club.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: MmmblueBernard on August 25, 2018, 04:50:09 AM
Is there even any point in that football club? The only thing I know about them is that we beat them in an FA cup final. A completely irrelevant football club.

They exist in their own niche. You may call it a gap.......
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Jamokachi on August 25, 2018, 06:21:36 AM
I like Watford. Every club has dickhead fans.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Martip on August 25, 2018, 03:07:55 PM
I like Watford. Every club has dickhead fans.
Out of interest what is it you like about them ? I m not a fan tbh.....delusions of grandeur, high turn over of  managers, gobby fans and some dickhead players like deeney.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: irishtoffee on August 25, 2018, 03:43:05 PM
We haven't won silverware in 23 years, so I don't think we should be looking down on any premier league team or their fans to be honest. A lot of the things people say about the likes of Watford, West Ham and Newcastle could be applied to Everton too
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Gash on August 25, 2018, 04:11:51 PM
We haven't won silverware in 23 years, so I don't think we should be looking down on any premier league team or their fans to be honest. A lot of the things people say about the likes of Watford, West Ham and Newcastle could be applied to Everton too

We know we're a big, successful club with a great history but I think we forget that to the outside most people below 30 barely remember us winning a trophy and even those that do won't see winning the FA Cup as anything amazing, you need to be in your 40's to remember us having any sustained period of success. People are being brought up in the Premier League and Champions League era now and we're just seen as a solid, mid table Premier League team by most of people outside of Everton, nothing more.

It's similar to a comment I saw about Chelsea on Facebook last week, someone said they were just a mid table Premier League team before Abramovich took over yet they finished top 6 in the 7 seasons before it and regularly qualified for Europe, I think they won the FA Cup, League Cup and Cup Winners Cup in those years as well. The trouble is he's been there so long and spent so much that people have forgotten that they were a big, successful club before he arrived as well.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: BlueForYou on August 25, 2018, 04:24:18 PM
Our 25 year boast is that we have never been relegated from the Premier League

Alongside that, we have never made the Champions League group stage

Modest
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on August 25, 2018, 04:41:06 PM
Watford have an Everton thread!! Only read the first post but he really doesnít like us.

http://wfcforums.com/index.php?threads/everton-watch.54856/
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Gash on August 25, 2018, 04:54:28 PM
Watford have an Everton thread!! Only read the first post but he really doesnít like us.

http://wfcforums.com/index.php?threads/everton-watch.54856/

To be fair, you only need to go four or five posts in for people to start having a go at the OP.

He sounds very bitter though.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Robioto on August 25, 2018, 06:26:01 PM
Watford have an Everton thread!! Only read the first post but he really doesnít like us.

http://wfcforums.com/index.php?threads/everton-watch.54856/

Funny read that.

Find it a bit sad that a fellow Evertonian felt the need to join another teams forum to defend us...
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on August 25, 2018, 06:46:58 PM
Watford have an Everton thread!! Only read the first post but he really doesnít like us.

http://wfcforums.com/index.php?threads/everton-watch.54856/

Clive sounds like a kopite.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Tinga on August 25, 2018, 06:59:04 PM
Lemons in there.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Brownie on August 25, 2018, 07:20:27 PM
Funny read that.

Find it a bit sad that a fellow Evertonian felt the need to join another teams forum to defend us...

What a fucking sad cunt
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Gash on August 25, 2018, 08:02:18 PM
So by the their logic on that thread, if Man City only draw at Wolves with 11 men they're either going to be in a relegation battle or we're going to win the league, right?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bob Sacamano on August 25, 2018, 08:22:14 PM
Haha that thread is bonkers.

Though, a club whoís claim to fame is losing a cup final against us in the 80s would be in desperate need of talking points so Iím not surprised theyíre still crying about an ex-manager.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Gumpinio on August 25, 2018, 08:25:46 PM
So by the their logic on that thread, if Man City only draw at Wolves with 11 men they're either going to be in a relegation battle or we're going to win the league, right?

And they have played two, won two, so they will end the season with 114 points, and finish 3rd place
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on August 25, 2018, 08:36:09 PM
And they have played two, won two, so they will end the season with 114 points, and finish 3rd place


Well no. Theyíd win the league
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Gumpinio on August 25, 2018, 09:01:35 PM
Well no. Theyíd win the league

I am saying they are drawing conclusions from the start of the season that don't hold any water.

I understand its impossible to win every game and be third
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Tinga on August 26, 2018, 12:40:21 AM
..never a dull moment I guess.























  :Niasse:
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on August 28, 2018, 05:12:18 AM
called up to Brazil Squad
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on August 28, 2018, 05:12:46 AM
https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1034200490899206145
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: TheRam on August 28, 2018, 05:20:38 AM
Is right la
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Brownie on August 28, 2018, 05:22:30 AM
Well in lad
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Tinga on August 28, 2018, 06:09:41 AM
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: pjk on August 28, 2018, 07:21:02 AM
I'm made up for him. He did let people down over the weekend, but he's in a sport that winds me up just watching it. This should help keep him fit for when he comes back after the international break. It should also have him buzzing; having been called up. It's excellent timing for EFC, and it's positive news for a change :)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: American Evertonian on August 28, 2018, 07:44:39 AM
He's ours and I know he made a mistake and he has done what many his age wouldn't do - own up and apologized.

He got a call up with us when if still at Watford he wouldn't. Looking forward to watching this lady for years to come.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on August 28, 2018, 02:09:28 PM
He's ours and I know he made a mistake and he has done what many his age wouldn't do - own up and apologized.

He got a call up with us when if still at Watford he wouldn't. Looking forward to watching this lady for years to come.

?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on August 28, 2018, 05:32:14 PM
What are the Echo suggesting with this sentence about Lookman having four games to impress in Richarlisonís absence? Are they saying heís banned for this match and three EPL games as well?


With Richarlison's three-game Premier League suspension tagged on to Wednesday night's game, Lookman may feasibly have the next four matches to show Silva exactly why Leipzig are so keen to sign him permanently.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Mick 1995 on August 28, 2018, 05:39:33 PM
What are the Echo suggesting with this sentence about Lookman having four games to impress in Richarlisonís absence? Are they saying heís banned for this match and three EPL games as well?


With Richarlison's three-game Premier League suspension tagged on to Wednesday night's game, Lookman may feasibly have the next four matches to show Silva exactly why Leipzig are so keen to sign him permanently.

Because Lookman would be expected to play in this cup game anyway.
If he performs then you would expect he has the 3 match suspension to show he can match Richarlisons output on the left flank/offer something different so he can start against some teams.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: MmmblueBernard on August 28, 2018, 05:43:37 PM
Shape up or ship out?

He want to leave. Thereís no incentive to perform.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on August 28, 2018, 05:52:03 PM
Because Lookman would be expected to play in this cup game anyway.
If he performs then you would expect he has the 3 match suspension to show he can match Richarlisons output on the left flank/offer something different so he can start against some teams.

Jesus, Iím braindead today (even more than usual)

Cheers, Mick.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: .Matty on August 28, 2018, 07:15:14 PM
He's only banned for 3 games including the league cup though isn't he? So 1 league cup game and 2 league games.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on August 28, 2018, 07:22:23 PM
He's only banned for 3 games including the league cup though isn't he? So 1 league cup game and 2 league games.

No, 3 prem games. He's available for the league cup which is a shame. Rather he was banned for that, but I guess it makes total sense the bans should only happen in the competition they occurred in.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on August 28, 2018, 07:23:08 PM
the echo are fucking useless
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on August 28, 2018, 07:28:07 PM
no one knows the fucking rules,  cautions/yellows only affect games they occur in (cup games ) so they don't impact on the premier league,

red cards are across the board , so it 1 cup game and 2 prem games

just like jags is banned from the cup game,   and available for Sat


Adam Jones
‏Verified account @Adam_Jones94
Aug 26
Replying to @GDF68

He'll miss Rotherham, Huddersfield and West Ham mate


then he writes the opposite ,  clueless
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Alanvideo on August 28, 2018, 07:40:49 PM
no one knows the fucking rules,  cautions/yellows only affect games they occur in (cup games ) so they don't impact on the premier league,

red cards are across the board , so it 1 cup game and 2 prem games

just like jags is banned from the cup game,   and available for Sat
................that's my understanding of it too. Whether that's correct is another thing.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Mick 1995 on August 28, 2018, 07:46:26 PM
You're right @WeimaranerBlues (https://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3886) .

http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/discipline/suspensions/clubdiscipline?league=74&club=10593214

That says all 1st team games. I think the 'competition specific' bans only seem to relate to the accrual of yellows over 5/10/15 games in the league.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Bluedylan on August 28, 2018, 08:02:52 PM
Buzzing for him to get in the Brazil squad. That's his big dream, understandably. It also should reinforce, in his mind, the decision to join us and prosper. He can be in the Brazil squad while playing for us. It's not necessary to play at one of the world's biggest clubs.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Jimmywhack on August 28, 2018, 08:08:46 PM
Buzzing for him to get in the Brazil squad. That's his big dream, understandably. It also should reinforce, in his mind, the decision to join us and prosper. He can be in the Brazil squad while playing for us. It's not necessary to play at one of the world's biggest clubs.
Also a massive heads up to Bernard too
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Evertonian in NC on August 28, 2018, 09:47:36 PM
Buzzing for him to get in the Brazil squad. That's his big dream, understandably. It also should reinforce, in his mind, the decision to join us and prosper. He can be in the Brazil squad while playing for us. It's not necessary to play at one of the world's biggest clubs.

And it reads to me like the Lukaku situation all over.  He would likely have rotted on the bench with a Sky Five squad, like Batshuayi has done.  Come to Everton, play, prosper, become a proper world star.  We are "big enough" that the breakthrough is certainly taken seriously, and you are surrounded by enough talent that you don't get isolated.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: American Evertonian on August 28, 2018, 10:44:15 PM
?

Haha fucking autocorrect
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Toddacelli on August 28, 2018, 11:50:03 PM
Also a massive heads up to Bernard too

Imagine a fully fit and firing Bernard and Richarlison developing an understanding on the pitch and smashing it for Everton and both playing for Brasil?

Lovely stuff :)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on August 29, 2018, 12:02:18 AM
Imagine a fully fit and firing Bernard and Richarlison developing an understanding on the pitch and smashing it for Everton and both playing for Brasil?

Lovely stuff :)

Imagine Everton winning the world cup and Brazil the Premier League... ;)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Macca77 on August 30, 2018, 05:04:30 AM
https://twitter.com/EvertonNewsFeed/status/1034911043221442563
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Jamokachi on August 30, 2018, 05:09:13 AM
Sounds like Dr. Nick at the end there lolol
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: brap2 on August 30, 2018, 05:23:00 AM
Beautiful language
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: pjk on August 30, 2018, 05:31:55 AM
It's good to see that they're happy here compared to the new signings last year, who looked as if they were saying to themselves, wtf have I done, signing on for this. Things are looking up. :)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Martip on August 30, 2018, 03:14:49 PM
It's good to see that they're happy here compared to the new signings last year, who looked as if they were saying to themselves, wtf have I done, signing on for this. Things are looking up. :)
The Silva effect that.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Trowel on August 31, 2018, 01:27:57 AM
https://twitter.com/jtpmummy/status/1035192910885646336
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: blargins on August 31, 2018, 01:36:57 AM
https://twitter.com/jtpmummy/status/1035192910885646336

I scrolled down and stopped half way down that pic. It looked like he was dangling a kid upside down out of his car.

This is what I saw:

Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Mouse on August 31, 2018, 01:48:52 AM
Is there no end to this guy's magnificence? Sending off forgiven and forgotten. God, I love him!
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: pjk on August 31, 2018, 08:48:57 AM
https://twitter.com/jtpmummy/status/1035192910885646336



I like the look of these South American lads. They look honest. Richarlison is loving his popularity, and it's lovely to see.
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Free Agent on September 02, 2018, 03:36:33 AM
Canít wait for him to be back
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: GLewis on September 02, 2018, 03:44:50 AM
Was a good example of what a daft sending off it was.

You assume weíll still be ok but with all other circumstances it was a massive blow to not have him available today.

Iím sure he knows this though ;)
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: sam of the south on September 02, 2018, 04:32:07 AM
Is there no end to this guy's magnificence? Sending off forgiven and forgotten. God, I love him!

I agree.

Big up, @blargins (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=54), that was wonderful 👌🏼
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: Ramjam on September 02, 2018, 12:49:04 PM
So is Richarlison available for West Ham or still suspended?
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: stirlingblue on September 02, 2018, 03:15:21 PM
So is Richarlison available for West Ham or still suspended?

Suspended but back the match afterwards
Title: Re: Richarlison
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on September 03, 2018, 02:02:20 AM
As well as his goals and all round skill, missed his graft and nuisance, tracking back when we lost the ball yesterday.