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Title: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 17, 2011, 09:12:08 PM
Same team for me as the Liverpool game and hope we can start the game like we did the second half

I am going the game so be prepared for a shitty 1 1 draw as thats what always seems to happen to me!!!
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: chris350 on January 17, 2011, 09:37:52 PM
I say the same team as Liverpool, but we give Bily a start on the left instead of Osman.

I don't rate Osman at all out on the wing, he's far better in the centre of the park.
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: AidyEFC9 on January 17, 2011, 09:53:40 PM
I say the same team as Liverpool, but we give Bily a start on the left instead of Osman.

I don't rate Osman at all out on the wing, he's far better in the centre of the park.


I think the reason Osman was put in on the left for the derby was cos he's played these games regular before and does put a shift in defensively aswell so he is a reliable you could say, the occasion and intensity of the game might of got to someone like Bily who hasn't played many games this season.

For me i'd go 4-4-2 again and if Saha is fit i'd go with him up top with Beckford as Saha as got a good record vs. West Ham, and i'd also go with Bily on left and give him a game to see if he can fill the void left by Pienaar, but i think Moyes will go with what he did vs. Liverpool but drop Anichebe if Saha is fit seen as though Saha is his favourite.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: JewishToffee92 on January 17, 2011, 10:02:50 PM
----------------------------Howard------------------------
Neville------heitinga----------------distan------baines
--------------------------felliani----------------------------
Coleman ----------arteta------------------------anichebe
-----------------------------osman--------------------------
-------------------------beckford----------------------------

Subs: mucha, Hibbert, Duffy, Billy, rodwell, Vaughan

2-0 osman anichebe
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Polledreng on January 17, 2011, 10:19:19 PM
4-4-2   put Billy on the left..... move Osman to the middle  ... and Arteta to the bench.... we should beat them 3-1 .. Beckford 2 and Fellaini ....   if saha is fit he should play and Anichebe on the bench
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Jimmywhack on January 17, 2011, 11:38:47 PM
Didnt think arteta was that bad yesterday
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: blargins on January 18, 2011, 12:09:24 AM
Hopefully Saha will be fit and we can go back to two strikers up front.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Silas on January 18, 2011, 12:10:25 AM
[Howard

Neville   Distin       Heitinga       Baines

Fellaini

Coleman        Arteta                 Bily

         
Anichebe       Beckford

I think Bily has earned a chance in his sub appearances and with no natural left sided player he is worth a run out.  Osman to come off the bench if we need to go 4-5-1 and Rodwell for Arteta as required.  This team should be too much for West Ham 2-0.


Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: johnj on January 18, 2011, 02:55:00 AM
[Howard

Neville   Distin       Heitinga       Baines

Fellaini

Coleman        Arteta                 Bily

         
Anichebe       Beckford

I think Bily has earned a chance in his sub appearances and with no natural left sided player he is worth a run out.  Osman to come off the bench if we need to go 4-5-1 and Rodwell for Arteta as required.  This team should be too much for West Ham 2-0.



Would go with this, but with Saha for Anichebe if he is fit. Thought Arteta is starting to look better, and Osman offers nothing on the left.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Derek on January 18, 2011, 03:39:01 AM
Gotta beat these. They're falling apart at the seams.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: brap2 on January 18, 2011, 03:41:37 AM
Would go with this, but with Saha for Anichebe if he is fit. Thought Arteta is starting to look better, and Osman offers nothing on the left.
same
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: x H 1 L L Y x on January 18, 2011, 04:23:18 AM
Personally, i think Bilys long throws could be asset!

Hope Saha is fit, coz he has a good record v West Ham.

2-0 Beckford and Coleman  :woohoo:
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Amata on January 18, 2011, 05:08:33 AM
[Howard

Neville   Distin       Heitinga       Baines

Fellaini

Coleman        Arteta                 Bily

         
Anichebe       Beckford

I think Bily has earned a chance in his sub appearances and with no natural left sided player he is worth a run out.  Osman to come off the bench if we need to go 4-5-1 and Rodwell for Arteta as required.  This team should be too much for West Ham 2-0.




This team for me too, Bily needs to start getting a runout.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 18, 2011, 05:24:01 AM
We will pummel them.

4-1.

Beckford, Anichebe, Fellaini, and Coleman to score.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Sprooly on January 18, 2011, 05:37:45 AM
if the aussies lose tonight then cahill could be back
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: kunal32 on January 18, 2011, 06:13:49 AM
Hopefully they don't get a lift from a change in manager, lets hope Avram stays for one more game.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Derek on January 18, 2011, 12:50:56 PM
He says he won't quit, apparently, so they'll need to give him the boot. To be honest, the players might react against the way he's been treated, but you never know.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Derek on January 18, 2011, 01:08:45 PM
O'Neill ruled himself out now apparently. Mail also says Brady sent players messages asking what they thought of Grant and if they thought he should go. Wouldn't put it past her.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: montanatoffeefan on January 18, 2011, 02:46:22 PM
He says he won't quit, apparently, so they'll need to give him the boot. To be honest, the players might react against the way he's been treated, but you never know.

Probably true, given how much the Wham players must hate their owner by now. It's a damn shame Sullivan didn't fire Zola during last season so the players could have rebelled more completely and dragged Wham down where it belongs. 

But perhaps Sullivan will give one of his lockerroom pregame pep talks this weekend and ensure a miserable performance by them.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: brap2 on January 18, 2011, 04:24:16 PM
Probably true, given how much the Wham players must hate their owner by now. It's a damn shame Sullivan didn't fire Zola during last season so the players could have rebelled more completely and dragged Wham down where it belongs. 

But perhaps Sullivan will give one of his lockerroom pregame pep talks this weekend and ensure a miserable performance by them.
imagine trying to get ready for a game and sullivan and gold giving you a prematch speech. Jesus.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: marky v on January 18, 2011, 04:54:37 PM
if the aussies lose tonight then cahill could be back

then he takes a seat on the bench we've played well and got results latley, they are there for the taking big time we should go all out and they will crumble
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Derek on January 18, 2011, 05:06:34 PM
I'd like to think we'll still go 4-4-2 when he's back.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: marky v on January 18, 2011, 05:31:16 PM
I'd like to think we'll still go 4-4-2 when he's back.

only if he drops to midfield for me
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: GLewis on January 18, 2011, 07:17:15 PM
If Saha is back, I'd imagine he'll come in for Victor.

If not, then it'll be the same team as for the derby.

I'm not sure whether we'll go with the starting line up or the altered one for the second half.

There's always the risk that with Beckford and Victor we won't hold the ball up well enough. Which naturally invites pressure and restricts the ability of the midfield and Baines to get forward.

However if we stick Ossie as the support player, it is easier to play through the middle plus we still have an attacking threat as Victor doesn't track back as much as a natural midfielder. Although if he's on the left we do need to keep good possession as we still need Baines to get up to the bye line.

Taking all that into account, I'd probably go with Victor up front as he is capable of hold up play and it should be a bit easier at home than it was in an Anfield derby.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Outworlder47 on January 18, 2011, 09:55:54 PM
Cahill's still out, as the Socceroos won Group C. They'll play Iraq, UAE, or Iran on Saturday afternoon. (Other quarterfinals are Iran-South Korea, Uzbekistan-Jordan, and Japan-Qatar.)

For me, bring Bilyaletdinov in for Osman, and Saha for Anichebe if fit. This assumes that there aren't any magic signings between now and then...
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: sharpattack on January 18, 2011, 10:07:06 PM
Looking forward to stuffing the hammers. that club is in total disarray.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: rochey on January 18, 2011, 10:39:40 PM
Cahill's still out, as the Socceroos won Group C. They'll play Iraq, UAE, or Iran on Saturday afternoon. (Other quarterfinals are Iran-South Korea, Uzbekistan-Jordan, and Japan-Qatar.)

For me, bring Bilyaletdinov in for Osman, and Saha for Anichebe if fit. This assumes that there aren't any magic signings between now and then...

This, I hope billy will get a run of games now that Pienaar has gone.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Derek on January 18, 2011, 11:48:34 PM
I would like to think so also. If he can't get used to it by now, perhaps he never will. I hold out hope, though, because he can do some amazing things with the ball.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Cods on January 19, 2011, 08:11:01 AM
If Saha is back, I'd imagine he'll come in for Victor.

If not, then it'll be the same team as for the derby.

I'm not sure whether we'll go with the starting line up or the altered one for the second half.

There's always the risk that with Beckford and Victor we won't hold the ball up well enough. Which naturally invites pressure and restricts the ability of the midfield and Baines to get forward.

However if we stick Ossie as the support player, it is easier to play through the middle plus we still have an attacking threat as Victor doesn't track back as much as a natural midfielder. Although if he's on the left we do need to keep good possession as we still need Baines to get up to the bye line.

Taking all that into account, I'd probably go with Victor up front as he is capable of hold up play and it should be a bit easier at home than it was in an Anfield derby.

Another top post, GL.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Evertonexile on January 19, 2011, 10:31:46 AM
I'm going to be pretty happy as long as we stay 4-4-2. Seems pointless to switch it anyway.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cad on January 19, 2011, 03:18:13 PM
Another top post, GL.


Yeah, GL talks a lot of sense.

As it's W Ham I'd be inclined to start with the same set up, 4-4-2.

They're not (or haven't been) a side that employs a strong defensive set-up, so we should be looking to take it to them...particularly if Ossie and Mikel are on song.

Always the option to bolster the midfield if Parker & co are showing any sort of form.

Looking forward to this one, and hoping to give them a thumping.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Verm on January 19, 2011, 07:30:05 PM
4-1 win

We need to comfortably beat someone in the league.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: steve81 on January 19, 2011, 07:58:34 PM
sort of match i expect us to win comfortably, then again i thought that about wolves, newcastle and west brom to
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: montanatoffeefan on January 20, 2011, 12:57:26 PM
And about West Ham last month.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Thom on January 20, 2011, 05:03:58 PM
I never thought I'd say this, but if Saha is fit again then we have to start him. Drop one of Osman and Anichebe for him and stick whoever stays in on the left wing.

Hopefully the last three results have given the lads a real boost, which we lead to a win for us. We won't smash them as we hardly ever seem to do so to any team, but a win is a win and we need to start putting three points on the board to start climbing the table.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: marky v on January 21, 2011, 01:01:07 AM
After Anichebe signed his contract he'll be desperate for a goal at home and after his second half display he should start upfront with Beckford,

Billy or Osman on left should be the only decision to make
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Chris on January 21, 2011, 05:16:51 AM
4-0

Saha 2, Beckford and Coleman
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Tellittoyourking on January 21, 2011, 05:58:34 AM
After Anichebe signed his contract he'll be desperate for a goal at home and after his second half display he should start upfront with Beckford,

Billy or Osman on left should be the only decision to make

Bily has my vote. Got to give the lad a chance. A run of five or six games, see what he can do.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Dean0 on January 21, 2011, 05:38:50 PM
with upson and tomkins being slow as fuck, id imagine beckford and saha to play upfront.. play the ball behind the 2 center backs and we'll shred them too pieces.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Silas on January 21, 2011, 06:31:37 PM
My only fear is Parker who pretty much ran the show last time.  He needs man marking.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: GLewis on January 21, 2011, 07:37:18 PM
My only fear is Parker who pretty much ran the show last time.  He needs man marking.

I'm not normally one for not bothering about the opposition.

But in this case we're at home against generally poor opposition. We should be concentrating on ensuring we have a good tempo to our own play.

If that's the case Parker should have too much on his hands stopping our players.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: dazzlar on January 21, 2011, 08:25:04 PM
ide personally go with

Howard


Baines
Dustbin
Tinga
Neville

Fellaini
Arteta
Coleman
Billy

Osman

Saha

controlling Parker will be the key and i think we looked alot better against the shite when we reverted to 4.4.1.1

Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Sir Stealth on January 21, 2011, 08:33:36 PM
My only fear is Parker who pretty much ran the show last time.  He needs man marking.

Scott Parker seems to have a stormer every time we play against him. I know he's been injured recently and Noble was taken off against Arsenal with an injury.would rather play against them without these two as they are the heartbeat of their side. Should beat them but that counts for nothing this season! Still i'l go for a 2-0 win with both of our strikers, Anichebe and Beckford netting one each
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Ong-Timus Prime on January 21, 2011, 10:24:22 PM
After Anichebe signed his contract he'll be desperate for a goal at home and after his second half display he should start upfront with Beckford,

Players on new contracts generally stink the place out! (Saha, Arteta)
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: evertonjoe on January 21, 2011, 10:31:29 PM
Players on new contracts generally stink the place out! (Saha, Arteta)


Baines signed a new contract in the summer, as did Cahill.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cad on January 21, 2011, 10:33:11 PM
Looks as if Saha is out (SSN) but Jags might return...

Probably makes the attacking line-up a bit easier to guess!
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Silas on January 21, 2011, 10:39:42 PM
Then I would love to see a 4-4-2 with Bily on the left.  Osman to come off the bench when Bily inevitably tires and switch to 4-5-1.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 22, 2011, 12:33:57 AM
Looks as if Saha is out (SSN) but Jags might return...

Probably makes the attacking line-up a bit easier to guess!

I really hope Jags stays out of the first XI, I prefer Heitinga at the moment.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Gash on January 22, 2011, 01:48:05 AM
I really hope Jags stays out of the first XI, I prefer Heitinga at the moment.

This.

I'd be pretty pissed off if Jags walks straight back into the team.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Silas on January 22, 2011, 02:11:09 AM
This.

I'd be pretty pissed off if Jags walks straight back into the team.

Me too, but not at all surprised.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 22, 2011, 02:14:48 AM
Me too, but not at all surprised.

Definitely.

Luckily they don't pose much of a threat.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Silas on January 22, 2011, 02:16:07 AM
Definitely.

Luckily they don't pose much of a threat.

I wish people would stop saying that!  Every we shouldn't worry about them comment makes me think we are going to get tonked.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Shogun on January 22, 2011, 02:36:51 AM
Definitely.

Luckily they don't pose much of a threat.
must be why we hammered them in the reverse fixture....
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 22, 2011, 02:40:06 AM
I wish people would stop saying that!  Every we shouldn't worry about them comment makes me think we are going to get tonked.

If we don't beat them I'll eat the pants Im wearing right now.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Silas on January 22, 2011, 02:41:05 AM
If we don't beat them I'll eat the pants Im wearing right now.

Yeah but you have them edible jelly pants on.  They don't count.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cad on January 22, 2011, 02:44:42 AM
Yeah but you have them edible jelly pants on.  They don't count.

I bet the crafty Canadian has just walked out of the shower :)
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: CaptainCal on January 22, 2011, 04:20:41 AM
Beckford needs to start, he seems to be showing more of the form we'd expect of an Everton player over the last few games.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Confucius on January 22, 2011, 04:35:12 AM
I bet the crafty Canadian has just walked out of the shower :)

Krafty Canadian
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cad on January 22, 2011, 04:57:16 AM
Krafty Canadian

What's 'Krafty' mean then, oh wise one?
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Risky on January 22, 2011, 05:36:58 AM
Yeah but you have them edible jelly pants on.  They don't count.

Hold on......that's not jelly.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Confucius on January 22, 2011, 05:44:19 AM
What's 'Krafty' mean then, oh wise one?

North American joke. Kraft is a massive food company supplying many major supermarkets. And Kraft dinner is like a Canadian tradition. Sort of a microwave dinner.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 22, 2011, 06:45:41 AM
I was wearing jeans. We better win now, someone tell Shorty quick.

What are jelly pants?
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Meak on January 22, 2011, 07:54:32 AM
we better win this one, no excuses for not picking up 3 pts against the team bottom of the table
Title: Re: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Silas on January 22, 2011, 03:34:17 PM
Pants made of gelatine. You not have ann summers in canada I take it?

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Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Scholar on January 22, 2011, 04:09:07 PM
My only fear is Parker who pretty much ran the show last time.  He needs man marking.
Which is why I expect 4-5-1 with Arteta pushing forward and Neville, Osman or Heitinga partnering Fellaini. He could bring Hibbert or Jagielka back in to do this. Looks like Saha is out and with Timmy away, all roads point this way.

Not for me though, Parker is not THAT dangerous, (but I know what you mean). I just don't think Beckford can play up top on his own, so I hope he sticks with Vic or gives Vaughan a go beside him, Bily on the left. So long as Parker is only 'running the show' in his own half, we'll be fine. We should stick to what's been working.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Silas on January 22, 2011, 04:19:39 PM
Which is why I expect 4-5-1 with Arteta pushing forward and Neville, Osman or Heitinga partnering Fellaini. He could bring Hibbert or Jagielka back in to do this. Looks like Saha is out and with Timmy away, all roads point this way.

Not for me though, Parker is not THAT dangerous, (but I know what you mean). I just don't think Beckford can play up top on his own, so I hope he sticks with Vic or gives Vaughan a go beside him, Bily on the left. So long as Parker is only 'running the show' in his own half, we'll be fine. We should stick to what's been working.

Agreed, I would hate to see the selection you talk of.  It has 1-0 or dull draw at best written on it.  I think Fellaini on form should be more than enough for Parker regardless of formation.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Scholar on January 22, 2011, 04:28:12 PM
Obinna is out for them too, which is another reason to go 4-4-2. We shall see.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: JoeHart on January 22, 2011, 04:30:00 PM
play 4-4-2 with real strikers and we win, lets hope moyes has learned his lesson.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Scholar on January 22, 2011, 05:00:50 PM
For me it's about getting the ball into the key areas as often as possible. Pienaar was good at making space for people and giving us a foothold but not always in the key areas. Hopefully Billy and Baines hit it off. In a 4-4-2 I think they could because with 2 strikers, one will go to the ball while the other peals away and Baines will have 2 options, so Bily can feed off the 1st or 2nd ball. It could work well, I've seen a change in Bily in recent weeks, getting back and putting in the effort. Bit of confidence and he could take off. 
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Silas on January 22, 2011, 05:17:11 PM
For me it's about getting the ball into the key areas as often as possible. Pienaar was good at making space for people and giving us a foothold but not always in the key areas. Hopefully Billy and Baines hit it off. In a 4-4-2 I think they could because with 2 strikers, one will go to the ball while the other peals away and Baines will have 2 options, so Bily can feed off the 1st or 2nd ball. It could work well, I've seen a change in Bily in recent weeks, getting back and putting in the effort. Bit of confidence and he could take off. 

Agreed but that will work only if the striker goes off into the right areas.  Anichebe has a tendency to drift (as Yakubu did) and not be up top when the chances come.  One of the things I like about Beckford is that he is and around the box a lot, not enough of our strikers do that.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: bluestevie on January 22, 2011, 07:47:13 PM
i cant see jags getting a recall tbh, can see the team staying as it was from the derby. fancy jb to score again today in a 2-0 or 2-1 win and judging by the ht score at molineux we are gonna need it
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: jongre123 on January 22, 2011, 08:12:45 PM
: Howard, Baines, Neville, Heitinga, Distin, Coleman, Osman, Fellaini, Arteta, Beckford, Anichebe
 :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Sir Stealth on January 22, 2011, 08:13:47 PM
Same starting xi as the derby .let's hope we have a better first half than that game!
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: bluestevie on January 22, 2011, 08:14:51 PM
that the legit line up jongre? any word on subs?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Silas on January 22, 2011, 08:17:26 PM
Deadlines
Same starting xi as the derby .let's hope we have a better first half than that game!
Disappointed to see no billy but good line up

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Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Sir Stealth on January 22, 2011, 08:18:29 PM
that the legit line up jongre? any word on subs?
Mucha Saha jags hibbert gueye bily rodwell on the bench
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: bluestevie on January 22, 2011, 08:22:05 PM
nice one stealth. saha should make a good impact sub later on if beckford or anichebe start to tire
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: toffee_scot on January 22, 2011, 08:23:50 PM
Can't really complain about the line up.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: American Evertonian on January 22, 2011, 08:47:25 PM
Can't really complain about the line up.

I can. Osman is not a left winger. Bily needs a run out at that position
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Ridge on January 22, 2011, 08:51:34 PM
I'd like to see Victor amongst the goals today.

But I'm going to go for Beckford and Coleman to score, 2-0.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: hienter on January 22, 2011, 08:59:29 PM
link works to see the game http://sportstream24.com/england_football/watch_online_8 (http://sportstream24.com/england_football/watch_online_8)
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: slothzen on January 22, 2011, 09:16:14 PM
http://atdhe.net/32939/watch-everton-vs-west-ham-united (http://atdhe.net/32939/watch-everton-vs-west-ham-united)

beckford lacks class.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: everton.chris on January 22, 2011, 09:19:27 PM
http://atdhe.net/32939/watch-everton-vs-west-ham-united (http://atdhe.net/32939/watch-everton-vs-west-ham-united)

beckford lacks class.
Sadly he is not Premiership quality
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Trowel on January 22, 2011, 09:24:44 PM
Err, Yakubu's scored again... :/
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: slothzen on January 22, 2011, 09:25:24 PM
Lol yakubu.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: everton.chris on January 22, 2011, 09:26:58 PM
What a pile of shite
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 22, 2011, 09:27:02 PM
jesus
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Alex on January 22, 2011, 09:27:25 PM
1-0 down fucks sake
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: slothzen on January 22, 2011, 09:29:03 PM
I hate rising out of a sound sleep on at 7 am on a Saturday to watch this kinda garbage from us
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 22, 2011, 09:31:21 PM
asshole changed the game on my stream
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: everton.chris on January 22, 2011, 09:31:51 PM
Even my link has had enough of this garbage, it swapped over to the Newcastle - Game
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: slothzen on January 22, 2011, 09:32:07 PM
pplive chinese commentary:

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Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: American Evertonian on January 22, 2011, 09:33:49 PM
I hate rising out of a sound sleep on at 7 am on a Saturday to watch this kinda garbage from us

This. Anyone still thinking we will win?
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Paul. on January 22, 2011, 09:36:02 PM
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Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: everton.chris on January 22, 2011, 09:37:39 PM
Beckford is basically playing the lone striker role and he is not up to it, we either need to get Anichebe to play up alongside with him or get Saha on or even give Gueye a try and also bring Bily on for Osman so we have a natural left sided winger
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: DanDan on January 22, 2011, 09:41:23 PM
what a pile of shit
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: everton.chris on January 22, 2011, 09:42:00 PM
FFS get Osman off and bring Bily on, he is poor enough on the right but he is even worse on the left
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 22, 2011, 09:42:41 PM
One foul and he gets carded? Fucking terrible refereeing.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Alex on January 22, 2011, 09:43:12 PM
My god, I've never seen such a shit performance, nobodys moving!

Get Arteta off, he just doesnt care
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Tinga on January 22, 2011, 09:43:33 PM
 lolol lolol lolol lolol lolol
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Thom on January 22, 2011, 09:43:44 PM
We've been, quite frankly, embarassing since they scored. Just cannot break down another team at home...

I'd like to see Bily come on, and I think Saha has to come on, despite it being a risk.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: everton.chris on January 22, 2011, 09:46:32 PM
We've been, quite frankly, embarassing since they scored. Just cannot break down another team at home...

I'd like to see Bily come on, and I think Saha has to come on, despite it being a risk.
Not only another team but the team bottom team who are making us look like a lower league side
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Tinga on January 22, 2011, 09:46:37 PM
We've been, quite frankly, embarassing since they scored. Just cannot break down another team at home...

I'd like to see Bily come on, and I think Saha has to come on, despite it being a risk.

We have been embarrassing all season and are we playing 4-5-1??
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: everton.chris on January 22, 2011, 09:49:11 PM
What an absolute disgrace
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Risky on January 22, 2011, 09:49:20 PM
Ponderous and indecisive from front to back, and the player's confidence must be so shite they way they've fallen to pieces since West Ham scored.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 22, 2011, 09:49:35 PM
I better start cutting up my pants, baked or fried?
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Tinga on January 22, 2011, 09:49:58 PM
Pienaar seems to be playing well with VDV  :'( things have got to change at this joke of a club.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Evertonexile on January 22, 2011, 09:51:41 PM
We were down by 1 at half away against what is arguably a better team last week. Moyes needs to get shouting, and we could easily turn this around.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Fern on January 22, 2011, 09:52:14 PM
Mediocrity. BK loves his throne and don't care what we end up like. We are mediocre.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Risky on January 22, 2011, 09:52:43 PM
We were down by 1 at half away against what is arguably a better team last week. Moyes needs to get shouting, and we could easily turn this around.

We could, but it's pathetic that we've yet again found ourselves in this position in the first place.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: blueToffee on January 22, 2011, 09:53:07 PM
I was only able to start watching from 30 mins on (after they scored) but boy we've been poor and could easily be 2 or 3 down to them at home!

Poor, poor, poor. Not sure how we fix it but something needs to change. I don't think the Beckford/Anichebe thing is working at all at the moment.

We'll see Saha at some point, plus Billy I'd imagine too. Not sure who else though. Still think Gueye is worth a chance on the left.

We need to find a way to win though.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: dunkster on January 22, 2011, 09:53:41 PM
missed most of it cos of stream problems but saw last 12 minutes and we havent a clue
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Paul. on January 22, 2011, 09:54:23 PM
Why do we consistently give the ball to Neville when Coleman is more than usually in a far more dangerous position.

Also his defending for the goal was shocking.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Norwegiantoffee on January 22, 2011, 09:55:21 PM
FFS get Osman off and bring Bily on, he is poor enough on the right but he is even worse on the left

WTF, why bring off one off our better performers today.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: dunkster on January 22, 2011, 09:57:00 PM
its like the wheels have fallen off. confidence all gone at the worst possible time of the season. could easily get sucked into relegation fight.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 22, 2011, 09:57:08 PM
Neville really stifles our attack. I'd like to see him off, if only so we can get better footballers on the pitch.

Arteta is looking crab like again and other than a few cases of fancy feet from Osman no one has really done a whole lot.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Tinga on January 22, 2011, 09:57:19 PM
It must be awful being a young winger at Everton as no matter what you do, Osman will get the nod before you, Moyes must surely SURELY! know he is shit on the wing, Gueye is perfect for this game and if he can't play at home against WestHam then why is he even on the bench or here for that fact?
We got rid of Yakubu and Pienaar and haven't even looked like signing anybody as a replacement, Beck and Vic upfront in the prem? not good enough, we have no class and I have finally lost faith in this team.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Jamokachi on January 22, 2011, 09:57:55 PM
WTF, why bring off one off our better performers today.

lolol lolol lolol

Not watching?
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 22, 2011, 09:58:27 PM
I don't understand why people are slagging off Osman, he's the only player who's shown any quality today.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Sprooly on January 22, 2011, 09:58:32 PM
socceroos through to the semis :D


everton though :/
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Tinga on January 22, 2011, 09:59:30 PM
I don't understand why people are slagging off Osman, he's the only player who's shown any quality today.

Because we have a young winger on the bench who could do a better job than him, I'm sick of Moyes playing Osman when he has class on the bench.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 22, 2011, 09:59:52 PM
Gueye is perfect for this game and if he can't play at home against WestHam then why is he even on the bench or here for that fact?


For the future, I doubt throwing him into a struggling team would be a good idea.
Title: Re: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Silas on January 22, 2011, 10:00:55 PM
Makes me glad to be working

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Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Jamokachi on January 22, 2011, 10:01:34 PM
I don't understand why people are slagging off Osman, he's the only player who's shown any quality today.

He's been fucking awful. Slow, out of position, poor passing, getting caught in possession. He needs to get off the fucking pitch.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 22, 2011, 10:01:45 PM
Because we have a young winger on the bench who could do a better job than him, I'm sick of Moyes playing Osman when he has class on the bench.

You're that sure that Gueye is better than Osman? You already know he's "class"? I guess you've seen him play on FM 11 eh? That way you're clamouring for him?

Of all the players needing to come off right now, Osman is one of the last.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Tinga on January 22, 2011, 10:02:01 PM
For the future, I doubt throwing him into a struggling team would be a good idea.


We won't have a future if we keep playing like this mate, sure he might tear up the championship but who would stay at moneyless Charlton, I mean Everton when they go down? he needs to play, no excuses now moyes.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 22, 2011, 10:02:19 PM
He's been fucking awful. Slow, out of position, poor passing, getting caught in possession. He needs to get off the fucking pitch.

He's the only one who looks capable of opening them up.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Risky on January 22, 2011, 10:03:18 PM
He's been fucking awful. Slow, out of position, poor passing, getting caught in possession. He needs to get off the fucking pitch.

I've not seen that at all personally.  He's done ok, and actually along with Coleman looked like one of the only players who's going to create anything.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Tinga on January 22, 2011, 10:03:23 PM
You're that sure that Gueye is better than Osman? You already know he's "class"? I guess you've seen him play on FM 11 eh? That way you're clamouring for him?

Of all the players needing to come off right now, Osman is one of the last.

No he actually looked half decent at the start of the season and I think he needs to be given a chance, why are you so against it? Osman isn't a winger, he just isn't.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Trowel on January 22, 2011, 10:03:44 PM
Billy on wide for Anichebe with Osman moving inside might sort us out - Parker has the freedom of Goodison every time it comes to him.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: everton.chris on January 22, 2011, 10:04:05 PM
It must be awful being a young winger at Everton as no matter what you do, Osman will get the nod before you, Moyes must surely SURELY! know he is shit on the wing, Gueye is perfect for this game and if he can't play at home against WestHam then why is he even on the bench or here for that fact?
We got rid of Yakubu and Pienaar and haven't even looked like signing anybody as a replacement, Beck and Vic upfront in the prem? not good enough, we have no class and I have finally lost faith in this team.
Totally agree with you
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 22, 2011, 10:04:23 PM
We won't have a future if we keep playing like this mate, sure he might tear up the championship but who would stay at moneyless Charlton, I mean Everton when they go down? he needs to play, no excuses now moyes.

You still haven't made much of a case for him other than "he's class lad" and "better than Osman". How much of him have you seen? Pre-season and against a Scunthorpe team we were pounding?
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: blueToffee on January 22, 2011, 10:04:26 PM
For the future, I doubt throwing him into a struggling team would be a good idea.


People were saying the same about Coleman at the start of the season. I'd give Gueye a go, play Osman in the middle.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Trowel on January 22, 2011, 10:04:49 PM
Saha on for Beckford - WTF?
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Paul. on January 22, 2011, 10:05:16 PM
Changes needed. Arteta out wide and Osman through the middle. Bily in behind Beckford and Anichebe off.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Bluenosebolt on January 22, 2011, 10:06:20 PM
Still got 45 mins to turn it round. I cant believe we will be so poor second half. It could of course be Moyes giving Bill the finger so he gets his hand in his pocket this Jan ??
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: blueToffee on January 22, 2011, 10:07:04 PM
Saha on for Beckford? Would rather Anichebe off
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: American Evertonian on January 22, 2011, 10:11:00 PM
At least Beckford can find the back of the net
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: everton.chris on January 22, 2011, 10:11:03 PM
For the future, I doubt throwing him into a struggling team would be a good idea.

The way we are going we are going to struggle for quite a while, so we might as well "throw" him on, what is the point of having him sit on the bench or even have him in the first team squad if he is never going to get a game. If he is good enough he is old enough
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: everton.chris on January 22, 2011, 10:12:08 PM
At least Beckford can find the back of the net
so can Howard when he picked the ball out of it
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Ridge on January 22, 2011, 10:14:50 PM
This isn't doing my hangover any favours. Didn't get to see too much of the first half, with the streams constantly going, but sounds like I was fortunate.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 22, 2011, 10:16:48 PM
Our movement up front is terrible, from all players.

When Anichebe got the ball and turned, no one made an incisive run, it's the same thing every time, no one making diagonal runs behind their defenders when we get the chance.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: everton.chris on January 22, 2011, 10:21:08 PM
Arteta's deliveries are pitiful, surely we have someone else that can take corners and free kicks
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Tinga on January 22, 2011, 10:21:37 PM
Are we really gonna get beat by Westham at home  lolol
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: montanatoffeefan on January 22, 2011, 10:22:43 PM
This isn't doing my hangover any favours. Didn't get to see too much of the first half, with the streams constantly going, but sounds like I was fortunate.

How many on Everton's starting XI were out drinking with you late last night?
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: everton.chris on January 22, 2011, 10:22:58 PM
Are we really gonna get beat by Westham at home  lolol
Yep, seems like we don't the West... West Brom, West Ham
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: everton.chris on January 22, 2011, 10:24:01 PM
How many on Everton's starting XI were out drinking with you late last night?
looks like all of them, and they are still on the piss
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 22, 2011, 10:25:37 PM
Arteta has been absolutely dreadful.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Tinga on January 22, 2011, 10:26:08 PM
looks like all of them, and they are still on the piss

dunno about on the piss but they definitely taking it.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 22, 2011, 10:27:47 PM
We aren't linking play with our forwards, missing Cahill a lot today.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: blueToffee on January 22, 2011, 10:28:12 PM
We're going to be lucky to get something from this game. No cohesion at all. It'll need to be a shot from Billy or Baines.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: American Evertonian on January 22, 2011, 10:29:26 PM
I hope with Diniyar coming on he gets to play the Tim Cahill role and not move Ossie there
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: everton.chris on January 22, 2011, 10:30:01 PM
Who are the bottom club? I know who are playing like they are or will be
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: American Evertonian on January 22, 2011, 10:30:13 PM
And that he is getting more than 5 minutes to show his stuff
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: blueToffee on January 22, 2011, 10:31:44 PM
Bring Gueye on, drop Coleman to RB, sell Neville to Spurs.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: everton.chris on January 22, 2011, 10:32:05 PM
outright 4-5-1 now, great vision playing to keep it at 0-1
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: JoeHart on January 22, 2011, 10:33:38 PM
no excuses not to win today, man for man with the exception of phil neville, we are the better team.

getting so frustrated with arteta, im starting to agree with those who have been calling him to be dropped.

and now a chance for billy to shine, albeit back to defensive daves 4-5-1 formation

4-5-1 chasing the game with vaughan on the bench - moyes tactically remains a novice.



and how bad is phil neville, he has given coleman nothing in terms of support and defensivly looks very slow on his feet, hibbert is so much better
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Fern on January 22, 2011, 10:34:20 PM
This is another example of the players looking flat as a result of BK being unable to run the club. Looks like they are dwelling on Pienaar loss.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 22, 2011, 10:34:47 PM
Osman should start in the middle, so much better with him there. Drop Arteta, fucking shambolic player at the moment.

Can't believe we didn't sell Neville to Spurs.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: American Evertonian on January 22, 2011, 10:35:11 PM
and how bad is phil neville, he has given coleman nothing in terms of support and defensivly looks very slow on his feet, hibbert is so much better

Wow
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Azz on January 22, 2011, 10:36:30 PM
What the fuck was that from Bily and Osman?!
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Azz on January 22, 2011, 10:36:41 PM
Never mind he's scored now it's ok!!! :D
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 22, 2011, 10:36:52 PM
Ace.

Get him starting.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Ridge on January 22, 2011, 10:37:02 PM
Billy, I like you and would like to buy you an ice cream.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Nicco on January 22, 2011, 10:37:04 PM
LET HIM PLAY FFS!!!!!!!!!!!

He can at least score!
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Azz on January 22, 2011, 10:37:15 PM
Right foot as well!  :D :D
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: true1891blue on January 22, 2011, 10:37:21 PM
fuckin get in billy
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: slothzen on January 22, 2011, 10:37:41 PM
He sure knows how to pull a great strike out of his ass a few times a season.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 22, 2011, 10:37:51 PM
Come on Everton. I don't fancy eating pants today.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Tinga on January 22, 2011, 10:37:52 PM
Oh look!!
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: everton.chris on January 22, 2011, 10:37:52 PM
nice one Bily, he needs to get a starting place




Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: JoeHart on January 22, 2011, 10:38:00 PM
hibbert can cross, neville prefers to toe or an aimless high punt

huibbert offers us more going forward, actually gets to the byline, where neville is utter dog poo - a championship player

Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: American Evertonian on January 22, 2011, 10:38:09 PM
Bily does it!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: blueToffee on January 22, 2011, 10:38:10 PM
It's as if Billy can...shoot?

Billy plays for the rest of the season now.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 22, 2011, 10:38:25 PM
Oof.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: BatteredCornerFlag on January 22, 2011, 10:38:30 PM
We're going to be lucky to get something from this game. No cohesion at all. It'll need to be a shot from Billy or Baines.

What are the lottery numbers?
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Azz on January 22, 2011, 10:38:48 PM
Fuck me Coleman was close!! COYB!
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: everton.chris on January 22, 2011, 10:38:59 PM
Fantastic effort by Coleman
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: American Evertonian on January 22, 2011, 10:39:37 PM
hibbert can cross, neville prefers to toe or an aimless high punt

huibbert offers us more going forward, actually gets to the byline, where neville is utter dog poo - a championship player


I wasn't questioning the statement. I just never thought I would see the day someone would say that.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Fern on January 22, 2011, 10:39:47 PM
F Osamn
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: American Evertonian on January 22, 2011, 10:40:06 PM
I looks like Bilya can actually do something if you give him more than 8 min on the pitch
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: JoeHart on January 22, 2011, 10:41:20 PM
wasted a good oppurtunity their noble


get vaughany on for the last 10, take mikel off. done nothing.

back to 4-4-2
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Azz on January 22, 2011, 10:42:52 PM
Oh my god!!!!! Coleman!!!!!!!!!!    :( :(
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 22, 2011, 10:42:57 PM
oh my god coleman
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: slothzen on January 22, 2011, 10:43:20 PM
coleman, oh lordy.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: everton.chris on January 22, 2011, 10:43:21 PM
Oh Seamus nooooooo!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Azz on January 22, 2011, 10:43:25 PM
That was brilliant from Saha, but how the fuck didn't Coleman stick that in!!
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: American Evertonian on January 22, 2011, 10:43:33 PM
get vaughany on for the last 10, take mikel off. done nothing.

back to 4-4-2

Would love to see that, but I would be amazed if Moyes pulled off his beloved Mikel
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Azz on January 22, 2011, 10:44:16 PM
oh FUCK OFF!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 22, 2011, 10:44:24 PM
fucking hell
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Ridge on January 22, 2011, 10:44:34 PM
Fuck and double fuck.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: slothzen on January 22, 2011, 10:44:39 PM
hahahahahahahahahahaaahadhadh adahfgjdfgdfg dfhsdhlfghkjdfh'hdfssl;jl Fuuuuuuu!
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: everton.chris on January 22, 2011, 10:44:50 PM
What a load of fucking crap
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 22, 2011, 10:45:01 PM
He'll be sent off now though.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Tinga on January 22, 2011, 10:45:28 PM
BOoooooooooooooooooooooooo fucking hate this shit. KENWRIGHT OUT!
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Azz on January 22, 2011, 10:45:47 PM
And now Rodwell comes on...
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: American Evertonian on January 22, 2011, 10:45:47 PM
What happened with Coleman?
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Azz on January 22, 2011, 10:46:49 PM
What happened with Coleman?

He missed a sitter, was a bit awkward for him but really should have put it away.

ridiculous rule that

Very stupid indeed.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: RICH on January 22, 2011, 10:47:08 PM
we are in BIG BIG trouble
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: JoeHart on January 22, 2011, 10:47:20 PM
that utter piece of crap phil neville, the worst player in the squad by some distance is finally off

at last moyes - the fact still remains moyes is tactically inept

Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: American Evertonian on January 22, 2011, 10:47:35 PM
Well I guess it isn't too surprising he missed a sitter when he is a RB by nature
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Goughie on January 22, 2011, 10:50:24 PM
arteta to blame yet again for not dealing with the ball at the edge of the box....
and moyes doesnt bring on a striker yet again. im getting bored of this now.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 22, 2011, 10:50:58 PM
Why doesn't everybody shoot with their weaker foot?
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 22, 2011, 10:51:28 PM
Thank fuck.

We can win this.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Nicco on January 22, 2011, 10:51:32 PM
GO for ONE MORE!!!
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Azz on January 22, 2011, 10:51:35 PM
YEEEEERRSSS!!! :D :D   
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Ridge on January 22, 2011, 10:51:45 PM
Get in, still a bit shit though. Lets push for the winner, they don't have a striker left on the pitch.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: everton.chris on January 22, 2011, 10:52:00 PM
Fellaini you big haired cracker
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: American Evertonian on January 22, 2011, 10:52:01 PM
Why doesn't everybody shoot with their weaker foot?
Shoot what? I vote a gun.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: slothzen on January 22, 2011, 10:52:14 PM
one more, we deserve it.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: montanatoffeefan on January 22, 2011, 10:52:38 PM
Was just about to post we'd lost a six pointer -- fucking beautiful. Dixie smiled upon us.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Azz on January 22, 2011, 10:53:18 PM
wtf is Arteta doing?!  Tit!
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: American Evertonian on January 22, 2011, 10:53:21 PM
Regardless of if we still end in a draw. No reason should we be drawing with the likes of West Ham at home.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Fern on January 22, 2011, 10:54:25 PM
Cant anyone ee we need KENWRIGHT OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: montanatoffeefan on January 22, 2011, 10:54:35 PM
wtf is Arteta doing?!  Tit!

Same thinghe hasn't been doing for months now.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: everton.chris on January 22, 2011, 10:54:54 PM
In all fairness we did not deserve to get anything out of this game, we need to improve 1000% otherwise we will be out of the cup next week and then hammered by Arsenal the week after
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Goughie on January 22, 2011, 10:55:24 PM
arteta MUST be dropped, hes just complete garbage - we paid the wrong player,
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: everton.chris on January 22, 2011, 10:55:45 PM
The boos were thoroughly deserved
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: American Evertonian on January 22, 2011, 10:56:20 PM
Hooray for drawing with West Ham?........Can't see many positives from this game.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Ridge on January 22, 2011, 10:56:24 PM
Stealing a point from West Ham at home.  :tit:
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Thom on January 22, 2011, 10:56:29 PM
Not good enough. What's that now, 5 wins from 23 league games?

I'm not even angry... I'm just fed up with us. So pitiful.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Optimistic Blue on January 22, 2011, 10:57:02 PM
I was impressed with us today
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: everton.chris on January 22, 2011, 10:57:45 PM
I was impressed with us today
don't you mean depressed
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 22, 2011, 10:58:50 PM
Osman is twice the player of Arteta in the middle at the moment. Id' prefer Arteta be moved out wide with Coleman behind him, enough with Neville, he's been horrible the last two games.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Nicco on January 22, 2011, 10:59:08 PM
Not good enough. What's that now, 5 wins from 23 league games?

I'm not even angry... I'm just fed up with us. So pitiful.

Yeah... NSNO really!
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Risky on January 22, 2011, 10:59:57 PM
Really poor, and the equaliser doesn't hide that in the slightest.

The team needs some kind of shake up, players like Arteta and Neville were poor again and it stifles everything we do going forward.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Ceega on January 22, 2011, 11:01:07 PM
Every week, like the idiot I am, I keep optimistically expecting Arteta to return to some kind of form. I really can't comprehend how different a player he has seemed this season.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: American Evertonian on January 22, 2011, 11:01:40 PM
Don't worry everyone....we only dropped one place on the table today.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: JoeHart on January 22, 2011, 11:01:59 PM
the shake up the team needs is a new manager who has some tactical understanding, moyes still has 'tactics for dummies' on hire from walton library.

Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Ridge on January 22, 2011, 11:02:08 PM
Hopefully the break in Tenerife will do some good, we looked like we were already on our holidays.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: RICH on January 22, 2011, 11:02:13 PM
flog him use the money to rebuild
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Trowel on January 22, 2011, 11:03:08 PM
Never mind Newcastle, West Brom and Wigan - that was as bad as we've played all season. I'm usually on his side, but Moyes got the tactics completely wrong. I'm going to deliver him a letter via our centre halves - it won't get to him, but at least they'll keep trying for 90 mins.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: JoeHart on January 22, 2011, 11:03:22 PM
Every week, like the idiot I am, I keep optimistically expecting Arteta to return to some kind of form. I really can't comprehend how different a player he has seemed this season.

we all do mate, he has been our most talented player for so long.

Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: toffee_scot on January 22, 2011, 11:05:32 PM
Shit, just when I thought (once again) we had turned a corner.

I wonder if there has been a lack of morale in the last week or so due to the lack of positive transfer activity.

Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: bedfordtoffee on January 22, 2011, 11:07:17 PM
Total shite.... it just gets worse..sack the board
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: steve81 on January 22, 2011, 11:07:44 PM
i wonder if the hammers would swap parker for arteta
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Ridge on January 22, 2011, 11:08:23 PM
If we don't beat them I'll eat the pants Im wearing right now.
Tuck in.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: everton.chris on January 22, 2011, 11:08:59 PM
Osman is twice the player of Arteta in the middle at the moment. Id' prefer Arteta be moved out wide with Coleman behind him, enough with Neville, he's been horrible the last two games.
Granted Arteta has been poor this season, but Osman is shit too and unlike Arteta who will come good, Osman will only get worse. As for Neville he is a liability but our only other option at right back is Hibbert, who again is shit, so and add this to our woeful strike force and we are basically fucked all round
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Confucius on January 22, 2011, 11:10:33 PM
Tuck in.

I only came on here to post that. Pics Cantoffee


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Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 22, 2011, 11:10:57 PM
Tuck in.
uh oh.

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Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 22, 2011, 11:12:03 PM
Granted Arteta has been poor this season, but Osman is shit too and unlike Arteta who will come good, Osman will only get worse. As for Neville he is a liability but our only other option at right back is Hibbert, who again is shit, so and add this to our woeful strike force and we are basically fucked all round

Osman was at the heart of everything good we had after he moved to the middle. Arteta was at the heart of nothing but poor passing and dead ends.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Confucius on January 22, 2011, 11:12:44 PM
One positive, Saha was fantastic today.


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Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: MIKE_EFC on January 22, 2011, 11:13:13 PM
Dull negative performance, lucky to draw.

Arteta need to pull his finger out, and if I was Fellaini I would be praying the summer comes quick when a real Football Club will come in for him.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on January 22, 2011, 11:14:10 PM
SHITE
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: M.Fellaini 25_Iggzy_1878_ on January 22, 2011, 11:14:52 PM
From today's game drop Arteta replace with Osman.. Drop Anichebe to reserves seen more movement from Raul Moat in his shootout. Coleman worked hard even though he should of headed his shot tirades the end. Saha dropping too deep

And as for Heitinga the cheeky bastard shouting at the gwladys street to cheer them on, well if the played well we fucking would.
Title: Re: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Silas on January 22, 2011, 11:16:29 PM
Okay someone give me a breakdown of the game?

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Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 22, 2011, 11:16:39 PM
From today's game drop Arteta replace with Osman.. Drop Anichebe to reserves seen more movement from Raul Moat in his shootout. Coleman worked hard even though he should of headed his shot tirades the end. Saha dropping too deep

And as for Heitinga the cheeky bastard shouting at the gwladys street to cheer them on, well if the played well we fucking would.

Anichebe wasn't that bad.

We're just a better team playing 4-5-1.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Audrey Horne on January 22, 2011, 11:18:12 PM
Arteta NEEDS to be dropped. he is terrible at the moment and thinks he will start regardless. come back timmy, play him just off saha and beckford with felli, billy and coleman behind

               howard

neville :( distin tinga baines

coleman      felli        billy
                 cahill
    beckford           saha
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: M.Fellaini 25_Iggzy_1878_ on January 22, 2011, 11:19:34 PM
He not good enough to be a starting player, he movement and positioning is all wrong.

An considering our best performance this season was a 4-4-2 he is a striker he should be able to produce chances against teams like West Ham.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: JewishToffee92 on January 22, 2011, 11:22:11 PM
We didn't even deserve a point today, there was just nothing going forward but we will just have to move on, there's fuck all we can do  :headbang:
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: blueToffee on January 22, 2011, 11:22:18 PM
Not sure where to start.

Was not a fan of Anichebe, he is far better off used as a sub at this point when players are tiring. It was a poor decision I thought by Moyes not to replace him sooner. If we play 4-4-2 it should be Beckford and Saha. If it is 4-5-1 let's give Billy a chance behind Saha.

We really need a big rethink of our midfield. Was Fellaini playing up top at the end? Are we going back to Cahill/Fellaini combo? I hope not.

Overall the word disorganised springs to mind. Moyes needs to find another solution.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 22, 2011, 11:24:58 PM
He not good enough to be a starting player, he movement and positioning is all wrong.

An considering our best performance this season was a 4-4-2 he is a striker he should be able to produce chances against teams like West Ham.

No one else produced chances at 4-4-2, should they be dropped to the reserves as well? Blinkered view for a player you already dislike.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: M.Fellaini 25_Iggzy_1878_ on January 22, 2011, 11:29:33 PM
He should be a bit part player that comes on as a sub not starting games. Arteta should be dropped aswell not just Anichebe
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Trowel on January 22, 2011, 11:36:58 PM
I'm baffled as to why Beckford came off at half time. Baffled as to why Distin and Heitinga spent 90 mins playing long lofted straight balls when heading is just about all the defending Upson can manage. Baffled as to why Neville is scared to get within 15m of the opposition corner flag and checks back instead. Baffled as to why Arteta crosses like heads grow from knees. Baffled as to why we bother.
Title: Re: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Silas on January 22, 2011, 11:48:12 PM
How was billy?

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Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cantoffee on January 22, 2011, 11:49:08 PM
How was billy?

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good, would like to see him start, took his goal really well
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: M.Fellaini 25_Iggzy_1878_ on January 22, 2011, 11:50:20 PM
How was billy?

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Took his goal very well, he played well to be fair but wasn't on long enough to really comment.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Verm on January 22, 2011, 11:52:47 PM
Can't honestly believe we just narrowly escaped a battering from a team that's almost certain to go down at home when we're approaching Feb.

This is disgusting.
Title: Re: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Silas on January 22, 2011, 11:53:21 PM
He ready needs to be getting game time. We cant get goals and Bily guarantees goals.  I don't care if he does fuck else for ninety.

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Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Trowel on January 22, 2011, 11:56:22 PM
He's our only player who's not scared to shoot from distance. Having said that Coleman nearly scored a worldy with his swinger.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: BootleBlueBoy on January 23, 2011, 12:01:11 AM
on his left foot as well. bily needs to start, arteta needs shifting out to the right and rodwell needs bringing into the middle
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: dazzlar on January 23, 2011, 12:03:42 AM
Missed the game today lads as I had work commitments, Anybody give me an unblink-ered view of the game?  from posts looks as if we played shite but what was the problem? how was billy? Baines ok without peanuts? 

Cant be bothered with a 3 min cameo on MOTD followed by shit punditory comments about our stagnation.

cheers!
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: matty1878 on January 23, 2011, 12:19:51 AM
we were shite.... west ham must feel devastated as i know i would if i was them
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: BootleBlueBoy on January 23, 2011, 12:27:11 AM
awful all game, we couldnt hold the ball up, no creativity in the middle of the park, we had nothin on the left and we didnt work the right quickly enough which left coleman outnumbered with no support. beckford was poor first half, touch and passing let him down. we didnt really start to apply pressure till bily came on and felli got pushed up front. i think bily played well enough to start, kept his passing tidy and simple, linked up with baines a few times took his goal very well on weaker foot, theirs was a great little flick on to the right as well, he looked alot more comfortable, although he may have closed the ball quicker for their 2nd (would need to watch it again though tbh) baines didnt really get into the game that much, osman was just shocking on the left. really disappointing overall
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: evertonjoe on January 23, 2011, 12:36:40 AM
I come in from another hard fought 2nd XI defeat to find we couldn't beat West Ham, not good at all. Let's hope we pick up a bit for the Chelsea and Arsenal games.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: matty1878 on January 23, 2011, 12:39:29 AM
we have no choice to pick up.chelsea have sent 3000 back, shows they only wanna know when there winning things and as for arsenal away id hope at best a draw.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Sir Stealth on January 23, 2011, 12:42:07 AM
Would really like to see Bily given a run of games,if were playing 4-4-2 we cant afford to have 3 central players in a midfield 4, id have  Coleman and Bily on the wings and 2 from Fellaini/Osman/Arteta/Rodwell in the centre, obviously Fellaini being one starter, and on form probably Osman alongside him.  

We'll be expected to lose next week against Chelsea and then against Arsenal but then pull it back with a win against Blackpool at home.  So judging by this season we'l beat Chelsea and Arsenal and be thinking that a win against Blackpool will fire us up the table only for DJ Campbell to shock us with a 1-0 defeat and put us back to the drawing board once more!
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: bluestevie on January 23, 2011, 01:27:47 AM
absolutely fuming with that performance, felt sorry for the hammers who deserved the win. would it be wrong of me to say i spent most of the second half watching the food channels than listening to the game as i had both the tv and radio on at the same volume, only muting when there was a chance?
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: bluemanx3 on January 23, 2011, 01:49:05 AM
i was in a pub overheard rs supporter saying hope them bastards loose, so not too dissapointed as at 2-1 he was jumping all over the place.
on a more sombre note the sooner moyes grows some balls and drops neville the better
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: TheRam on January 23, 2011, 02:13:46 AM
i was in a pub overheard rs supporter saying hope them bastards loose, so not too dissapointed as at 2-1 he was jumping all over the place.
on a more sombre note the sooner moyes grows some balls and drops neville the better

A fellow Neville hater nice to meet you my friend, we seem to be in the minority on here.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: TheRam on January 23, 2011, 02:39:10 AM
In all fairness we did not deserve to get anything out of this game, we need to improve 1000% otherwise we will be out of the cup next week and then hammered by Arsenal the week after

Going on this season we will beat Chelsea and Arsenal and get fucking hammerd by Blackpool.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: cad on January 23, 2011, 02:54:39 AM
Sounds as if my missing the game wasn't such a bad idea.

Any positives, or just total shite?
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: TheRam on January 23, 2011, 03:01:46 AM
Sounds as if my missing the game wasn't such a bad idea.

Any positives, or just total shite?

Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr we didnt lose  :eh:.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Meak on January 23, 2011, 04:10:01 AM
i dont see how anyone can think of a positive from drawing with the league's worst team... who have been bottom for the entire season
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Silas on January 23, 2011, 04:17:20 AM
i dont see how anyone can think of a positive from drawing with the league's worst team... who have been bottom for the entire season

Bily's performance?  I didn't see the game but sounds like he is really pushing for a place now. 
Title: Glad to be dying?
Post by: philly on January 23, 2011, 04:39:16 AM
I'm actually happy that I've been on my deathbed this week. It would have only ruined my weekend if I'd have braved it to what sounds like an abysmal match today.
Title: Re: Glad to be dying?
Post by: Shogun on January 23, 2011, 08:25:20 AM
Sounds as if my missing the game wasn't such a bad idea.

Any positives, or just total shite?
well it was probably the 3rd worst we have played this season falling short to newcastle and west brom at home :-\
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: blueski on January 23, 2011, 08:47:08 AM
This one was the worst for me
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Tellittoyourking on January 24, 2011, 02:19:42 PM
A fellow Neville hater nice to meet you my friend, we seem to be in the minority on here.

Hate is a strong word, but ye, he is shite.
Title: Re: Everton v West Ham
Post by: Derek on January 24, 2011, 04:17:21 PM
Pants display. Scoring in the last minutes covered up my disappointment for a wee while, but overall it was not a good day.