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Title: Sidibe
Post by: Escla on November 10, 2019, 04:22:36 PM
Just read the fee has been agreed and that we have the option to buy him at the end of the season £12.75 million, itís a definate yes from me !
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on November 10, 2019, 04:27:42 PM
Just read the fee has been agreed and that we have the option to buy him at the end of the season £12.75 million, itís a definate yes from me !

I wonder if the player has a say in it or if it was already agreed as part of the loan?
If we're still performing poorly then he might be tempted elsewhere.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: pjk on November 10, 2019, 04:27:48 PM
Just read the fee has been agreed and that we have the option to buy him at the end of the season £12.75 million, itís a definate yes from me !



He's starting to settle in nicely.  :)
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Dr. Sponge on November 10, 2019, 04:28:44 PM
Is he better than Kenny?
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: sam of the south on November 10, 2019, 04:29:24 PM
Thatís a helluva good price, especially if Kenny also comes back from Schalke full of confidence and more nous.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 10, 2019, 04:30:17 PM
I'll hold my vote back for a few months yet
Yes he has started well
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Escla on November 10, 2019, 04:33:41 PM
Is he better than Kenny?

Who knows how Kenny has progressed but my sense is that we need both, sad to say I think Seamus will at best be third option next season.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Lxxx on November 10, 2019, 04:39:01 PM
No rush. Heís decent but itís still early days.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Alanvideo on November 10, 2019, 04:43:51 PM
Who knows how Kenny has progressed but my sense is that we need both, sad to say I think Seamus will at best be third option next season.
................Agreed. Sid is better than what we've seen of Kenny but its not conclusive either way. Seamus will probably join Baines on the sidelines.   
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: TheRam on November 10, 2019, 04:47:22 PM
Like him so far.

That was some cross and I think weíll see more of that to come.

Kenny has to be the first choice next season though but I wouldnít grumble if we made this permanent.

If we donít and we go with Kenny with Coleman back up then Iím ok with that too.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: WeimaranerBlues on November 10, 2019, 04:49:37 PM
See how he performs in December. He's more athletic than Seamus, but still gets caught out of position but that's more tactical .
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Escla on November 10, 2019, 04:54:48 PM
Like him so far.

That was some cross and I think weíll see more of that to come.

Kenny has to be the first choice next season though but I wouldnít grumble if we made this permanent.

If we donít and we go with Kenny with Coleman back up then Iím ok with that too.

Is Kenny impressing in the Bundesliga ?
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Jamokachi on November 10, 2019, 04:57:05 PM
Is Kenny impressing in the Bundesliga ?

Hugely.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 10, 2019, 04:58:47 PM
Is he better than Kenny?

Haha is a World Cup winner  better than kenny who really didnít look very good when he played last season? Iíll go with probably
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Escla on November 10, 2019, 05:01:43 PM
Hugely.

Yeah, was a silly question, just googled him, heís ripping up trees over there and Schalke want to sign him on a permanent.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: brap2 on November 10, 2019, 05:13:23 PM
I thought he was quite bad yesterday, until the cross which was extremely good like.

Not sold on him yet.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Juanito on November 10, 2019, 06:00:52 PM
Athletic and quick yes but gets caught out way too often, is quite rash and even though he gets forward, he struggles to make it back. Like Brighton away when we needed him in injury time.

I think we assess at end of season. Kenny coming on leaps and bounds at Schalke, too.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: wilbur on November 10, 2019, 06:01:27 PM
I thought Kenny improved significantly over the course of last season and with a year in Germany under his belt he should be ready to make the right back position his own next season.

I still think Coleman is a better option than Sidibe and last week when we needed some decent crosses over in the last 20 minutes he would have made a much better job of it than the Frenchman.

Having said that, yesterday was Sidibeís best game for us. Apart from the assist he made a couple of terrific tackles when we looked in trouble.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Audrey Horne on November 10, 2019, 06:08:57 PM


I still think Coleman is a better option than Sidibe and last week when we needed some decent crosses over in the last 20 minutes he would have made a much better job of it than the Frenchman.

Having said that, yesterday was Sidibeís best game for us. Apart from the assist he made a couple of terrific tackles when we looked in trouble.

Coleman hasnít put a decent cross in for over two years...
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2019, 06:39:11 PM
For the price heíll make a good squad player but we need a better long time solution if weíre to progress.

Interesting to see if Kenny will be that player or not.


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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 10, 2019, 06:45:04 PM
I thought he was quite bad yesterday, until the cross which was extremely good like.

Not sold on him yet.
And heís 27, which for you is too old. Do you count in dog years or something?


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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 10, 2019, 06:49:08 PM
Hugely.
Heís still slow and heíll struggle back here. Maybe not struggle as in looking like the defensive liability he was, but heíll be shown up compared to the quick, up and down fullbacks we have in this league.


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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: brap2 on November 10, 2019, 06:52:29 PM
And heís 27, which for you is too old. Do you count in dog years or something?


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Well yeah it is to be honest if you are thinking about building a side for the future.

Especially if you consider his fee will then be sunk cost, you're not getting that back as has no sell on potential.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: toffee_scot on November 10, 2019, 07:16:20 PM
For me, still early days but good to know we have that option and we have plenty of time to see him improve and decide if he is the future for the right-back slot.

Otherwise great to see Kenny do so well in Germany, would be great if we could convince him he has a future at Everton.

Coleman's been a great servant to the club but we have to look forward to the future now.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 10, 2019, 07:33:28 PM
Well yeah it is to be honest if you are thinking about building a side for the future.

Especially if you consider his fee will then be sunk cost, you're not getting that back as has no sell on potential.
Heís got 4 years before any decline, regardless of injury record. 4 years is a fucking long time in football.


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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Escla on November 10, 2019, 08:10:21 PM
For the price heíll make a good squad player but we need a better long time solution if weíre to progress.

Interesting to see if Kenny will be that player or not.


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Wow, we really must have come up in the world if we now consider ourselves to be at a level where we sign current World Cup winning players as squad players.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: wilbur on November 10, 2019, 08:13:20 PM
Coleman hasn't put a decent cross in for over two years...
To be fair, he was out with a broken leg for one of those years.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on November 10, 2019, 08:34:52 PM
I wonder if the player has a say in it or if it was already agreed as part of the loan?
If we're still performing poorly then he might be tempted elsewhere.

It was agreed at the exact time of the loan signing (and was reported at the time). IMO it's a masterstroke by Brands. Take a 1-year chance for pittance, while at the same time loaning Kenny out for the same year (with no set purchase price for Schalke).

If Sidibe works out and we keep him, it's great value. If he doesn't, it's a no harm no foul situation and back to Monaco he goes. And we still have the evaluation of, and decision around bringing Kenny back/selling him at a (likely) big profit, in Brand's back pocket.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 10, 2019, 08:39:08 PM
Schalke don't likely have the money to buy him permanently, if they did I would sell.  Buy Sidibe, and use him and Kenny like 60/40 based on matchups.

Coleman is finished, sadly.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2019, 08:41:31 PM
Harsh to describe Coleman as finished, we should be looking to replace him but he's a viable squad option and if he was happy to be so I would be keeping him around for years he still has good games in him
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on November 10, 2019, 08:45:10 PM
Schalke don't likely have the money to buy him permanently, if they did I would sell.  Buy Sidibe, and use him and Kenny like 60/40 based on matchups.

Coleman is finished, sadly.

Re: Schalke they definitely haven't splashed money about like we have, but they are a big club and look to be in the thick of it for a European spot. That could change spending/planning, we just don't know yet.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 10, 2019, 08:46:57 PM
Harsh to describe Coleman as finished, we should be looking to replace him but he's a viable squad option and if he was happy to be so I would be keeping him around for years he still has good games in him

Love the guy, but he's a one-trick pony who no longer has the speed to do said trick.  Baines was a more-rounded player, and he can't even make the squad now.  Young man's game.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: TheRam on November 10, 2019, 08:47:22 PM
He played one game in the World Cup.

Kleberson was a World Cup winner.

Can people please stop saying it like he won the cup on his own.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 10, 2019, 08:48:05 PM
Re: Schalke they definitely haven't splashed money about like we have, but they are a big club and look to be in the thick of it for a European spot. That could change spending/planning, we just don't know yet.

If they'd give us 25-30m, I would take it.  Bring in another young player to learn under Sidibe.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Escla on November 10, 2019, 08:48:14 PM
Harsh to describe Coleman as finished, we should be looking to replace him but he's a viable squad option and if he was happy to be so I would be keeping him around for years he still has good games in him

Has the best part of three years left on his contract anyway so he ainít going nowhere else for £70k a week.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on November 10, 2019, 08:51:01 PM
If they'd give us 25-30m, I would take it.  Bring in another young player to learn under Sidibe.

Oh fuck yeah. I was thinking cover the cost of buying Sidibe 😂
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on November 10, 2019, 08:52:12 PM
Has the best part of three years left on his contract anyway so he ainít going nowhere else for £70k a week.

Maybe the New England Revolution will take him. Lots of Irish in Boston 😁
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 10, 2019, 08:58:51 PM
Itíd be interesting if Schalke made the CL. Kenny might not want to come back.

A fee might already have been agreed.


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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on November 10, 2019, 09:10:25 PM
Itíd be interesting if Schalke made the CL. Kenny might not want to come back.

A fee might already have been agreed.


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None was reported, so probably not. But you're right in that playing in Europe would hugely influence him you'd think.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Escla on November 10, 2019, 09:49:06 PM
Maybe the New England Revolution will take him. Lots of Irish in Boston 😁

Doubt they could afford the $100k plus a week that he gets at Everton, they could have Darren Gibson though for a packet of fruit gums and a Mars bar.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on November 10, 2019, 10:11:43 PM
Doubt they could afford the $100k plus a week that he gets at Everton, they could have Darren Gibson though for a packet of fruit gums and a Mars bar.

No really, there's some weird "foreign international" rule where teams can bring in (I think) 2 players and the league pays for them. Boom!

I love Mars bars btw
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2019, 10:13:55 PM
No really, there's some weird "foreign international" rule where teams can bring in (I think) 2 players and the league pays for them. Boom!

I love Mars bars btw
Racists.


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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on November 10, 2019, 10:18:10 PM
Racists.


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Fair play. We really don't treat the English very well here 🤪
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2019, 10:22:50 PM
Fair play. We really don't treat the English very well here 🤪
Thatís fair play too. They did tax without giving representation.

Anyway, while on these shores, Iím American. My other nationalities are no longer recognized.


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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on November 10, 2019, 10:31:57 PM
Thatís fair play too. They did tax without giving representation.

Anyway, while on these shores, Iím American. My other nationalities are no longer recognized.


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Oh no shit, didn't know you were here. Whereabouts if you don't mind me asking?
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2019, 11:10:29 PM
Oh no shit, didn't know you were here. Whereabouts if you don't mind me asking?
Think we had this conversation before. Iím in south Jersey. Not far from Gotham City.


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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on November 10, 2019, 11:13:44 PM
Think we had this conversation before. Iím in south Jersey. Not far from Gotham City.


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Lol we probably did. Another Jerseyan, nice. 🤝 In the event we didn't, I'm about 40 miles due west of Manhatten (Morristown).
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2019, 11:14:20 PM
Lol we probably did. Another Jerseyan, nice. 🤝 In the event we didn't, I'm about 40 miles due west of Manhatten (Morristown).
Near Springfield? Have a client up there.


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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on November 10, 2019, 11:34:47 PM
Near Springfield? Have a client up there.


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Not far at all, maybe 20 minutes slightly northwest. I used to buy all my wine at The Wine Library. From there it's basically a straight drive up 24.

You ever want to watch a match, lmk! Iíd surely be up for it.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: brap2 on November 10, 2019, 11:59:43 PM
He’s got 4 years before any decline, regardless of injury record. 4 years is a fucking long time in football.


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OK, thats not how I see it to be honest. Not how Brands sees it either from his comments, but I can understand why I constantly have this discussion with people on here who say 27 is a great time to sink money into a deprecating asset who is as good as he will ever be with a horrible injury in his recent past.

That sounds like a fine idea and absolutely not at all like the poor decisions we've been making for the last couple of years leaving us with a bloated squad of slowly deteriorating players on big wages that nobody with any sense would buy off us for anything approaching breaking even let alone profit.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2019, 11:59:57 PM
Not far at all, maybe 20 minutes slightly northwest. I used to buy all my wine at The Wine Library. From there it's basically a straight drive up 24.

You ever want to watch a match, lmk! I'd surely be up for it.
The Wine Library. Gary Vee?

Sounds good for a meet up sometime.


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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 11, 2019, 12:00:50 AM
OK, thats not how I see it to be honest. Not how Brands sees it either from his comments, but I can understand why I constantly have this discussion with people on here who say 27 is a great time to sink money into a deprecating asset who is as good as he will ever be with a horrible injury in his recent past.

That sounds like a fine idea and absolutely not at all like the poor decisions we've been making for the last couple of years leaving us with a bloated squad of slowly deteriorating players on big wages that nobody with any sense would buy off us for anything approaching breaking even let alone profit.

Sounds like youíve just got no standards mate.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 11, 2019, 12:29:14 AM
OK, thats not how I see it to be honest. Not how Brands sees it either from his comments, but I can understand why I constantly have this discussion with people on here who say 27 is a great time to sink money into a deprecating asset who is as good as he will ever be with a horrible injury in his recent past.

That sounds like a fine idea and absolutely not at all like the poor decisions we've been making for the last couple of years leaving us with a bloated squad of slowly deteriorating players on big wages that nobody with any sense would buy off us for anything approaching breaking even let alone profit.
Because youíre paying for someone who can actually do whatís asked of them and who improves us. You canít have a team of potentially great players (Kean), who donít actually offer anything on the pitch at the present time.

Of course I agree with Brandsí philosophy of buying young talent that can improve and grow in value. I just donít see how buying a 27 year old for £12m has anything to do with having previously paid over the odds for Sigurdsson and Bolasie.


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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: bigdunc9 on November 11, 2019, 01:06:53 AM
Agree with this.
I thought he was quite bad yesterday, until the cross which was extremely good like.

Not sold on him yet.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: sam of the south on November 11, 2019, 01:46:21 AM
He played one game in the World Cup.

Kleberson was a World Cup winner.

Can people please stop saying it like he won the cup on his own.

Yeah, itís like saying all the Greece 2004 squad were ballers because they won the Euroís.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: sam of the south on November 11, 2019, 01:48:41 AM
Doubt they could afford the $100k plus a week that he gets at Everton, they could have Darren Gibson though for a packet of fruit gums and a Mars bar.

Better at least make that wine gums for Gibbo.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on November 11, 2019, 02:01:40 AM
The Wine Library. Gary Vee?

Sounds good for a meet up sometime.


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That's the one!
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Dr. Sponge on November 11, 2019, 02:16:07 AM
Haha is a World Cup winner  better than kenny who really didn't look very good when he played last season? I'll go with probably
Yeah Griezmann, Pogba, Mbappe and Kante would have struggled to clinch the World Cup without Sidibe's arse warming the bench.

It's a legitimate question, with Kenny doing very well out on loan in the Bundesliga. There is a reason Sidibe has been loaned out too... from Ligue 1.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Bluedylan on November 11, 2019, 02:45:22 AM
I think he's decent, and still think he was a good rotation option on loan.

My main issue is that our first choice RB is no longer good enough, and for me, bar the odd game, hasn't been for quite some time, and I still don't see young Jonj making it at Prem level on the evidence I've seen at Everton (haven't watched him at Schalke).

Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on November 11, 2019, 03:13:29 AM
Yeah Griezmann, Pogba, Mbappe and Kante would have struggled to clinch the World Cup without Sidibe's arse warming the bench.

It's a legitimate question, with Kenny doing very well out on loan in the Bundesliga. There is a reason Sidibe has been loaned out too... from Ligue 1.

Kenny was pretty crap last season. Heís miles behind both him and Coleman from what weíve actually seen of him. Yes kenny is apparently doing well in Germany but Iím still doubtful heís going to be good enough because he wasnít close last season
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Omar on November 11, 2019, 04:59:32 AM
Think we had this conversation before. Iím in south Jersey. Not far from Gotham City.


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Eh, fuhgetaboutit!
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Toffee_4_Life on November 11, 2019, 09:18:17 AM
Think I'd rather go for the other french right back in the league - Guilbert at Villa.

I mean that's only based on the 3 or 4 games I've seen him but really like him as a modern fullback. One of my mates is a season ticket holder at villa and said he was the best player all pre season too and all the fans were raging when he didn't start the first game this season.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 11, 2019, 11:43:58 AM
Think I'd rather go for the other french right back in the league - Guilbert at Villa.

I mean that's only based on the 3 or 4 games I've seen him but really like him as a modern fullback. One of my mates is a season ticket holder at villa and said he was the best player all pre season too and all the fans were raging when he didn't start the first game this season.
He does look decent, would cost big beans now though.


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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: brap2 on November 11, 2019, 03:52:39 PM
Because youíre paying for someone who can actually do whatís asked of them and who improves us. You canít have a team of potentially great players (Kean), who donít actually offer anything on the pitch at the present time.

Of course I agree with Brandsí philosophy of buying young talent that can improve and grow in value. I just donít see how buying a 27 year old for £12m has anything to do with having previously paid over the odds for Sigurdsson and Bolasie.


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Think its a bit mad how sold you are on him.

There's time yet like but unless he really shows himself to be a top top right back I just don't see the point in settling for a player that age.

How you don't see the disconnect in what you're sayjng I don't know. it's still 12m. We need to be smarter, we cant keep going 'oh well he does a job doesn't he' and burning money on players that aren't going to give anything back to the club beyond a few years of post-peak football.

Listen if he blows us all away then fine, but I don't think we're at the point where we should be settling for players and giving them their last 4 year contracts.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: boothill on November 11, 2019, 04:27:50 PM
Hes been way more hit than miss for shalke BD.  saying that,  probably had is poorest game on saturday since the bayern munich match earlier in season.  Has been young player of the month also. At 22 got a bit of time to correct imperfections and germany is helping him
I think he's decent, and still think he was a good rotation option on loan.

My main issue is that our first choice RB is no longer good enough, and for me, bar the odd game, hasn't been for quite some time, and I still don't see young Jonj making it at Prem level on the evidence I've seen at Everton (haven't watched him at Schalke).

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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: 74Blue on November 11, 2019, 06:21:21 PM
Doubt they could afford the $100k plus a week that he gets at Everton, they could have Darren Gibson though for a packet of fruit gums and a Mars bar.
I'm not sure there's a team in the MLS that could afford Darron Gibson's bar bill.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Hesmenos on November 11, 2019, 06:53:16 PM
I've watched a few Schalke games this season in order to watch how Kenny is doing. He's been very good, especially the attacking part of his game. He's developed a really good through ball which I don't remember him having, although maybe there just wasn't anyone there for him to pass to with us.
What's been interesting though is that he seems to be playing further up the pitch. Still at right back but when defending (especially on the counter attack) the DM on his side is often behind him and is the one picking up his winger. I don't know if this is just the way Wagner likes to play, or it is something he has devised to counter Kenny's lack of positional sense when defending.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Thornton_19 on November 12, 2019, 06:29:41 AM
He never seems to be in a good position defensively. Think he will get murdered by good teams for his lack of positional sense.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on November 12, 2019, 07:35:58 AM
He never seems to be in a good position defensively. Think he will get murdered by good teams for his lack of positional sense.

Tough to say, his strengths are obviously at pressing high, and vision. But I think he gets unfairly called out for his defensive abilities.

Check out his dashboard from the Soton match:
(https://i.ibb.co/h7ZfsSY/2019-11-11-20-22-40.png)

From a defensive perspective, the green + signs are ball recoveries, the green Xs are successful tackles (the orange ones are unsuccessful), a green O is a clearance, a green diamond is an interception. Lastly, the 2 black triangles on the edge of our area are fouls he committed, and the 3 white ones were fouls committed on him.

While there isn't any way to truly measure positioning, if there were mistakes that led to shots or goals they'd be indicated by large yellow or blue octagons. You could argue the 2 fouls he committed in their attacking third were because he was out of position. I could take a deeper look to see if any other Everton players had more activity in what would normally be his area, but on the whole, Sidibe is just fine at playing defense.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on November 12, 2019, 07:40:29 AM
Dupe
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: brap2 on November 12, 2019, 08:37:04 AM
Not having him just yet myself.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 12, 2019, 11:58:45 AM
Thereís much more variety to his attacking play, than Coleman and he gets up and down the pitch more effectively.

He does push up high but usually has the pace to get back. He has been caught out a few times though. Itís up to Silva to reign him in if he thinks heís out of position too often.


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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: MmmblueBernard on November 12, 2019, 06:30:56 PM
Nice chap. Good cross on him. Has the turning circle of the Graf Spee so needs to learn to not get too close to his man.

In some aspects heís better than Coleman. In others, not as good so for me he is not the complete upgrade we should be looking for. Decent player for sure though.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Mouse on November 12, 2019, 06:43:19 PM
I haven't seen enough to convince me either way with him. I've only seen the website hghlights, the ball for Richarlison at the weekend was perfect. But, against Spurs, I thought he turned back or inside every chance he had to cross. Defensively, he inspires me no more than Coleman this season.

It is a bit early and maybe a few more games will see him improve. Right now, he's an ok replacement but not someone I'd want to see us invest in.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Heisenberg on November 14, 2019, 10:24:20 AM
Makes me just as nervous defensively as Coleman. But his crosses arenít gravity defying floaters so itís a big yes for big sib from me.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: TheTone on November 14, 2019, 04:13:16 PM
Makes me just as nervous defensively as Coleman. But his crosses arenít gravity defying floaters so itís a big yes for big sib from me.

ya, havn't seen him run with the ball out over the touchline either which is always a plus
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Paddockoldie on November 15, 2019, 02:19:26 AM
I think he uses his body better than Coleman, especially under pressure to protect the ball. However, he looks like he tires quickly and isn't that fast for a full back. Good squad player but I think JJK will be better longer term, if he still loves us..
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Silas on November 15, 2019, 02:25:08 AM
Im not having any of Coleman sidibe or Kenny long term tbh
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Shogun on November 15, 2019, 02:32:56 AM
Im not having any of Coleman sidibe or Kenny long term tbh

I'm not up on the idea of Kenny either but if he's pulling up trees in Germany then we should be keeping an open mind to it.

If he continues the way he's going then he'll almost definitely be first choice next season with Coleman as 2nd choice imo.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Silas on November 15, 2019, 02:35:25 AM
I'm not up on the idea of Kenny either but if he's pulling up trees in Germany then we should be keeping an open mind to it.

If he continues the way he's going then he'll almost definitely be first choice next season with Coleman as 2nd choice imo.

Yeah we've got to go with him if he does carry on or what's the point of a loan
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Shogun on November 15, 2019, 02:36:35 AM
Yeah we've got to go with him if he does carry on or what's the point of a loan

Exactly, it's not like we've shipped him to Wigan for a season. This was a genuine opportunity for him to stake his claim for a place at a club who I'd assume are stronger than us this season.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 15, 2019, 04:02:13 AM
Exactly, it's not like we've shipped him to Wigan for a season. This was a genuine opportunity for him to stake his claim for a place at a club who I'd assume are stronger than us this season.
Stronger?


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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 15, 2019, 04:03:44 AM
Yeah we've got to go with him if he does carry on or what's the point of a loan
To raise his profile and get more £££ when/if we sell him.


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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Shogun on November 15, 2019, 04:19:27 AM
Stronger?


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They're having a better season than us by the looks of things and have in the last few years had a similar standing in Bundesliga as we have in the Premier league
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on November 15, 2019, 04:24:43 AM
Stronger?


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Schalke's got a squad this year. Obviously too early to tell, but they're in the thick of the competition for a Euro spot.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on November 18, 2019, 09:24:56 PM
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/djibril-sidibe-explains-how-bernard-17274764 (https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/djibril-sidibe-explains-how-bernard-17274764)

What can't Bernard do?
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Goaljira on November 18, 2019, 09:50:52 PM
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/djibril-sidibe-explains-how-bernard-17274764 (https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/djibril-sidibe-explains-how-bernard-17274764)

What can't Bernard do?

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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on November 18, 2019, 09:55:09 PM
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holy shit I laughed probably way too hard at this
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Waltzer on November 18, 2019, 11:51:29 PM
Hmm, so Liverpool is a dump and other reasons for the transfer? More money you mean!!

Originally from Troyes, the defender wasnít called up by Didier Deschamps for the current international break, and so had some free time on his hands, deciding to sit down with his hometownís local newspaper to have a catch up.

Immediately, he was asked how things were going.

He said: ďItís going well, Iím acclimatising bit by bit. I needed a bit of time, which is completely normal, especially since the Premier League is different. Itís an excellent league, probably the best in the world, with a lot of intensity.

ďI live near Manchester, like the majority of players at Liverpool and Everton. Why? Letís say Liverpool is a bit of aÖ sad town, that went through some suffering in the past. My kids go to an international school. Theyíre getting used to it too. As for my English, the club have a teacher there that we can go see every day, so when I have time, I go to class to get up to dateĒ.

One of the biggest shocks for Sidibť was swapping Monaco for Merseyside, admitting he could have stayed in the principality, but saw the project he was once a part of disappear around him, so decided to try something new.

Instead of heading to Spain or Italy, he chose to follow in the footsteps of former teammates like Fabinho, Bernardo Silva or even Benjamin Mendy and give the Premier League a go.

He said: ďThereís a reason theyíre there. But youíre right, when you leave the Mediterranean sun for Liverpoolís rain, it hits you hard. Itís not easy everyday, but you make do with it. I already got a taste of it when I was at Lille.

ďHere, in the north of England, it really rains all the time. From morning to evening. Itís part of my new life, even if I wouldnít mind a ray of sunshine from time to time. I donít mind it. As I said, I know why I crossed the Channel. Itís for other reasons in England. Iíll have other life pleasures. The career of a footballer is short, so you need to know when to take good challengesĒ.



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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: brap2 on November 18, 2019, 11:55:10 PM
Frankly just isn't that mega money in the city.

Great to live in when you're 21 and want a bevy and a shag every weekend, but what do you do if you're a millionaire here. There's about 10 high end shops and that's probably 5 too many.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Shogun on November 18, 2019, 11:55:11 PM
He's allowed to have an opinion.

It may not compare to Monaco but I doubt he realises that Liverpool is actually one of the best cities in the country.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on November 19, 2019, 12:13:56 AM
Frankly just isn't that mega money in the city.

Great to live in when you're 21 and want a bevy and a shag every weekend, but what do you do if you're a millionaire here. There's about 10 high end shops and that's probably 5 too many.

Really? I have this impression of Liverpool being pretty modern & cosmopolitan. Isn't it England's 2nd-largest city?
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 19, 2019, 12:18:01 AM
Really? I have this impression of Liverpool being pretty modern & cosmopolitan. Isn't it England's 2nd-largest city?
If only you had access to a global system of interconnected computer networks that held all know information...


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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on November 19, 2019, 12:31:37 AM
If only you had access to a global system of interconnected computer networks that held all know information...

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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: TheRam on November 19, 2019, 12:49:42 AM
Really? I have this impression of Liverpool being pretty modern & cosmopolitan. Isn't it England's 2nd-largest city?

Itís modern and cosmopolitan in parts but Manchester is streets ahead of it.

Itís not really a place for the rich people to live. They all go to places like Cheshire  and Manchester.

Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on November 19, 2019, 01:04:48 AM
Itís modern and cosmopolitan in parts but Manchester is streets ahead of it.

Itís not really a place for the rich people to live. They all go to places like Cheshire  and Manchester.

Still so foreign to me, no pun intended. I've only visited London (3x), and only been to Oxfordshire twice for a client. Outside of the UK, I've only been to Germany, and you know they have a bunch of big, modern cities too. But nowhere else. Obviously the U.S. is huge by comparison, but most individual states have a big, cosmopolitan city if not more than 1.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Gash on November 19, 2019, 01:15:06 AM
Itís modern and cosmopolitan in parts but Manchester is streets ahead of it.

Itís not really a place for the rich people to live. They all go to places like Cheshire  and Manchester.

I thought most players in the North West lived in the Manchester/Cheshire area anyway?

I don't think I'd live in the city I played in.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on November 19, 2019, 01:21:32 AM
I thought most players in the North West lived in the Manchester/Cheshire area anyway?

I don't think I'd live in the city I played in.

for the NYC-area sports teams, the younger players love to live right in Manhattan, but the family-types tend to move to the wealthy suburbs (northern NJ, southern Westchester County/Connecticut, western Long Island) to live in gated mansions.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: brap2 on November 19, 2019, 01:51:42 AM
Still so foreign to me, no pun intended. I've only visited London (3x), and only been to Oxfordshire twice for a client. Outside of the UK, I've only been to Germany, and you know they have a bunch of big, modern cities too. But nowhere else. Obviously the U.S. is huge by comparison, but most individual states have a big, cosmopolitan city if not more than 1.

Chicago kinda reminded me of Liverpool.

People who move here tend to love it, and it is a beautiful city with lots going for it, but it's not made for rich people really.

Quite a white city too.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on November 19, 2019, 01:52:52 AM
Chicago kinda reminded me of Liverpool.

People who move here tend to love it, and it is a beautiful city with lots going for it, but it's not made for rich people really.

Quite a white city too.

well that ain't Chicago lol

 :badum:
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Brownie on November 19, 2019, 02:17:42 AM
Still so foreign to me, no pun intended. I've only visited London (3x), and only been to Oxfordshire twice for a client. Outside of the UK, I've only been to Germany, and you know they have a bunch of big, modern cities too. But nowhere else. Obviously the U.S. is huge by comparison, but most individual states have a big, cosmopolitan city if not more than 1.

Between all of us on here youíve got basically the whole of the UK covered. Weíll tell you all you need to know about our quirky little island
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: GLewis on November 19, 2019, 12:48:07 PM
I thought most players in the North West lived in the Manchester/Cheshire area anyway?

I don't think I'd live in the city I played in.

Also where a lot of our players live, itís only 25 mins drive to Finch Farm (traffic permitting) anyway.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: brap2 on November 19, 2019, 02:10:40 PM
Maybe so but "Sad City" isn't ideal.

Neither is turning up to training in a red trackie.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Escla on November 19, 2019, 03:09:54 PM
If only you had access to a global system of interconnected computer networks that held all know information...


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Look what I found after a couple of clicks !

London Ė 9,750,500.
Birmingham Ė 2,453,700.
Manchester Ė 1,903,100.
Glasgow Ė 1,057,600.
Newcastle Ė 837,500.
Sheffield Ė 818,800.
Liverpool Ė 793,100.
Leeds Ė 761,500.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Escla on November 19, 2019, 03:13:43 PM
Also where a lot of our players live, itís only 25 mins drive to Finch Farm (traffic permitting) anyway.

I think a lot of foreign players of ours and L.Pool that have kids choose to live near to the International School of Manchester, itís an international curriculum that the kids can pick up on in whatever country they are transferred to next.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Escla on November 19, 2019, 03:28:53 PM
Still so foreign to me, no pun intended. I've only visited London (3x), and only been to Oxfordshire twice for a client. Outside of the UK, I've only been to Germany, and you know they have a bunch of big, modern cities too. But nowhere else. Obviously the U.S. is huge by comparison, but most individual states have a big, cosmopolitan city if not more than 1.

Germany has a lot of big modern cities because we bombed the hell out of their big old cities during WW2.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 19, 2019, 03:34:52 PM
Germany has a lot of big modern cities because we bombed the hell out of their big old cities during WW2.
Another reason why Manchester comes across as more modern, the IRA bombing in the 90s
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Escla on November 19, 2019, 03:51:41 PM
Another reason why Manchester comes across as more modern, the IRA bombing in the 90s

As atrocious as that bombing was and I donít mean to trivialise it but it was one incident with no fatalities,
the allied bombing of Germany killed 410,000 civilians and flattened cities like Hamburg, Berlin, Dresden, Frankfurt, Cologne.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Tinga on November 19, 2019, 04:12:54 PM
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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Bluedylan on November 19, 2019, 04:14:00 PM
He's allowed to have an opinion.

It may not compare to Monaco but I doubt he realises that Liverpool is actually one of the best cities in the country.

Think it's the 5th biggest City,.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Bluedylan on November 19, 2019, 04:15:41 PM
Personally, think he's a bit of a cheeky fucker saying that. Even if you think it, don't say it. Bit disrespectful in my eyes.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Escla on November 19, 2019, 04:20:29 PM
I donít know how good/bad his English is but itís not his mother tongue so who knows what he meant by a ďsad cityĒ itís a strange way of describing a city ?
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Waltzer on November 19, 2019, 04:23:19 PM
I don't know how good/bad his English is but it's not his mother tongue so who knows what he meant by a "sad cityĒ it's a strange way of describing a city ?
It was from his interview with LíEst …clair in France

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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Bluedylan on November 19, 2019, 04:25:13 PM
I donít know how good/bad his English is but itís not his mother tongue so who knows what he meant by a ďsad cityĒ itís a strange way of describing a city ?

I have heard that kind of comment about Liverpool before (from people not from the city). I think the main thrust of the idea being that it's seen it's best days and there's a certain faded glory/sadness to it.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Escla on November 19, 2019, 04:25:47 PM
It was from his interview with LíEst …clair in France

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Ah, didn't know that, so it depends I guess on what French word he used and who translated it ?
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Alanvideo on November 19, 2019, 04:29:36 PM
I donít know how good/bad his English is but itís not his mother tongue so who knows what he meant by a ďsad cityĒ itís a strange way of describing a city ?
...........................perhaps he means depressed - which it certainly is not - or means it has a painful past ,which is somewhat true.
When i first came to Liverpool 50 years ago it looked as if the war had ended the day before. The city was still littered with bomb sites and all the buildings were black with soot.
Nowadays the city centre is clean and vibrant with a good mix of old and new architecture. But Sid has probably not taken the time to explore. 
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Escla on November 19, 2019, 04:38:47 PM
I have heard that kind of comment about Liverpool before (from people not from the city). I think the main thrust of the idea being that it's seen his best days and there's a certain faded glory/sadness to it.

It really depends on the demographic to a great extent, couple of examples, when I get the train up from Euston on match day it never ceases to amaze me how many young people are travelling up to Liverpool for the weekend, from Euston, Birmingham, Milton Keynes, my London based nieces born in Oxfordshire go up about four times a year, say itís one of the most vibrant cities they know, not just night life but the whole cultural scene, Tate Modern, Maritime museum, Museum of slavery etc. etc. A few of our friends have children born and bred in London/Home counties who go to/have been to Liverpool University, unanimously positive about their entire experience.
Get to my generation, I donít have a Scouse accent but whenever I announce that I was born and bred in Liverpool the inevitable old clicheís come out about unemployment, crime and the odd impression of Harry Enfield's two Scousers eh, eh ! It will die out with my generation though if the City continue I the right direction.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 19, 2019, 04:40:48 PM
As atrocious as that bombing was and I don’t mean to trivialise it but it was one incident with no fatalities,
the allied bombing of Germany killed 410,000 civilians and flattened cities like Hamburg, Berlin, Dresden, Frankfurt, Cologne.
Dont disagree, just saying that it changed the landscape and look of Manchester
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Bluedylan on November 19, 2019, 04:50:05 PM
It really depends on the demographic to a great extent, couple of examples, when I get the train up from Euston on match day it never ceases to amaze me how many young people are travelling up to Liverpool for the weekend, from Euston, Birmingham, Milton Keynes, my London based nieces born in Oxfordshire go up about four times a year, say it’s one of the most vibrant cities they know, not just night life but the whole cultural scene, Tate Modern, Maritime museum, Museum of slavery etc. etc. A few of our friends have children born and bred in London/Home counties who go to/have been to Liverpool University, unanimously positive about their entire experience.
Get to my generation, I don’t have a Scouse accent but whenever I announce that I was born and bred in Liverpool the inevitable old cliche’s come out about unemployment, crime and the odd impression of Harry Enfield's two Scousers eh, eh ! It will die out with my generation though if the City continue I the right direction.


Yeah, it's not my opinion at all. Town is incredible, genuinely, especially after the European money. Much better than most other city centres, in my opinion. I think it's a common sentiment to view older, industrial cities or major ports as 'sad' in a way, not just in the UK. I personally think there's a melancholy (in a good way) to Liverpool, rather than a sadness.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Escla on November 19, 2019, 05:06:49 PM
Yeah, it's not my opinion at all. Town is incredible, genuinely, especially after the European money. Much better than most other city centres, in my opinion. I think it's a common sentiment to view older, industrial cities or major ports as 'sad' in a way, not just in the UK. I personally think there's a melancholy (in a good way) to Liverpool, rather than a sadness.

The French word ďMelancolieĒ can be translated as sad/sadness. (Not being smart ass, googled it)
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Waltzer on November 19, 2019, 05:07:33 PM
I don't dislike Liverpool, but coming from Monaco where its flush with luxury yachts, massive casinos, sports cars, millionaires and much more favorable weather it probably is a bit of a come down and a bit sad, I don't think many could deny that.
Monaco don't really attract people for their great heritage, more the location and lack of tax.

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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Bluedylan on November 19, 2019, 05:10:23 PM
The French word “Melancolie” can be translated as sad/sadness. (Not being smart ass, googled it)

True, but the words 'melancholy and 'sad' communicate something slightly different in English (imo). Melancholy is a little subtler.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Goaljira on November 19, 2019, 05:13:30 PM
I don't dislike Liverpool, but coming from Monaco where its flush with luxury yachts, massive casinos, sports cars, millionaires and much more favorable weather it probably is a bit of a come down and a bit sad, I don't think many could deny that.
Monaco don't really attract people for their great heritage, more the location and lack of tax.

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But Monaco hasn't got UNESCO World Heritage site status - how can it possibly be somewhere nice to visit or live?
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Jamokachi on November 19, 2019, 05:14:09 PM
True, but the words 'melancholy and 'sad' communicate something slightly different in English (imo). Melancholy is a little subtler.

The interview would have been in French, no?
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Bluedylan on November 19, 2019, 05:23:27 PM
The interview would have been in French, no?

Yep, I was describing it as 'melancholy' in English.

Also, 'triste' is 'sad' in French, and 'mťlancolie' is melancholy.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Macca77 on November 19, 2019, 05:24:22 PM
Cheeky bastard, there is nothing sad about Liverpool, it's an amazing City
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Escla on November 19, 2019, 05:49:05 PM
Cheeky bastard, there is nothing sad about Liverpool, it's an amazing City

I think we would have to see the original article in French (tried but itís behind a pay wall) before we chop his legs off, if you take the comma away in the translation he says ďLiverpool is a sad town that went through some suffering in the pastĒ. Well, at least he knows his history !
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Bluedylan on November 19, 2019, 05:55:33 PM
Liverpool's an incredibly beautiful city, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Macca77 on November 19, 2019, 05:59:36 PM
Liverpool's an incredibly beautiful city, in my opinion.

It is, I'm biased like, but this city does amaze me, there's always something on in and around town, just keeps getting better and better.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Crackling on November 19, 2019, 06:26:33 PM
Liverpool's an incredibly beautiful city, in my opinion.
Agreed. But as someone who also lives in Manchester, you dont go through any of the beautiful parts on the way to the ground.
He should have been wiser than to make any comment though.

He lives in Bowdon btw. That and the neighbouring Hale are a proper footballers and millionaires area.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: TheRam on November 19, 2019, 06:31:21 PM
Love Manchester, but it feels like a city that's been built in the last 20 years with nothing much to see.

I stayed there for the weekend for my birthday and all we did was drink, eat and go shopping. Great city though.

Liverpool is more of a city break type place. Loads of history, sights and all that type of stuff. Two great cities, with great people.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Escla on November 19, 2019, 06:33:48 PM
Agreed. But as someone who also lives in Manchester, you dont go through any of the beautiful parts on the way to the ground.
He should have been wiser than to make any comment though.

He lives in Bowdon btw. That and the neighbouring Hale are a proper footballers and millionaires area.

I think places like Bowden, Hale, Alderley Edge etc. are no brainers for incoming players for Everton, Liverpool, Utd. and City because there are so many rental properties vacated on an annual basis as foreign players for those clubs move out again, some letting agents making a fortune there !
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: blargins on November 19, 2019, 06:44:33 PM
Yep, I was describing it as 'melancholy' in English.

Also, 'triste' is 'sad' in French, and 'mťlancolie' is melancholy.
Itís not just about translating word for word. Languages have their own logic and nuances.

Like in English if youíre hungry you say I am hungry. A French person would laugh at that because they would say no you are not hungry (I know this because a French person did laugh at me when I said Je suis faim). You are a human being. You canít be a feeling. They say i have hunger which actually makes more sense when you think about it.

So I guess it depends not only who has translated word for word but if they actually understand the logic or both languages too.

Iíd imagine you understand this anyway.

I wouldnít worry too much about it. All cities have their good areas and ďsadĒ areas.


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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Gary1878 on November 19, 2019, 07:49:07 PM
Love Manchester, but it feels like a city that's been built in the last 20 years with nothing much to see.

I stayed there for the weekend for my birthday and all we did was drink, eat and go shopping. Great city though.

Liverpool is more of a city break type place. Loads of history, sights and all that type of stuff. Two great cities, with great people.

So much more to see in Liverpool than most other UK cities to be honest. Manchester just doesn't have a whole lot going for it in terms of tourism because as you say it doesn't have as much culture/history as Liverpool.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 19, 2019, 08:29:09 PM
True, but the words 'melancholy and 'sad' communicate something slightly different in English (imo). Melancholy is a little subtler.
Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness - what an album.


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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Mouse on November 19, 2019, 08:41:00 PM
I think we're missing a bit in translation. Even reading the English version I'm not sure why people are offended. His use of the word sad is clearly not meant to be perjorative. He says it's going well and he's acclimatising. It's, what, 4 paragraphs to sum up how he's doing? I think we can cut him some slack given the change in environment, language, etc.

Liverpool is a wonderful city though!
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on November 19, 2019, 08:56:50 PM
I think we're missing a bit in translation. Even reading the English version I'm not sure why people are offended. His use of the word sad is clearly not meant to be perjorative. He says it's going well and he's acclimatising. It's, what, 4 paragraphs to sum up how he's doing? I think we can cut him some slack given the change in environment, language, etc.

Liverpool is a wonderful city though!

It's 2019, the bar for outrage is low indeed.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: blargins on November 19, 2019, 09:21:38 PM
It's 2019, the bar for outrage is low indeed.

These past few years have certainly become something of a fun vacuum, haven't they?
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: brap2 on November 19, 2019, 10:38:06 PM
Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness - what an album.


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They only come out at night, ey Lou.

Or in this case, the day.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: toffee_scot on November 20, 2019, 02:21:29 AM
Sidibe has certainly sparked a lot further discussion in this thread from opinions regard the city of Liverpool and subtleties to subtleties of the French language
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: april on November 20, 2019, 03:35:43 AM
Iím not from Liverpool, but I do love the city. I can understand why people from the city may take the ďsadĒ comment the wrong way. I see it as an empathetic comment, and certainly not a critique: heís showing an understanding of the cityís history. Thatís how I took it anyway.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: bigdunc9 on November 20, 2019, 11:38:47 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/evertons-djibril-sidibe-unfazed-red-20915265.amp
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Dr. Sponge on November 23, 2019, 03:13:04 AM
Sid ya bastard.

Liverpool is vibrant and wonderful.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Brownie on November 23, 2019, 03:43:25 AM
Lads, lads chill. Your City is fantastic and I love visiting - but we all get a bit defensive about our home towns when thereís a perceived slight.

Donít think Sidibe was meaning to offend
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2019, 05:07:36 AM
Lads, lads chill. You're City is fantastic and I love visiting - but we all get a bit defensive about our home towns when there's a perceived slight.

Don't think Sidibe was meaning to offend
Tut tut Mr Teacher. Read that back and correct your mistake.


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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Brownie on November 23, 2019, 05:18:29 AM
Tut tut Mr Teacher. Read that back and correct your mistake.


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Thatís what happens when you change what YOUíRE going to say in YOUR original statement.

Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2019, 03:39:53 PM
That's what happens when you change what YOU'RE going to say in YOUR original statement.
Ok but Iím still not grading above an A- 


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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Brownie on November 23, 2019, 04:00:52 PM
Ok but Iím still not grading above an A- 


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Iíll take that - but dispense with that plus and minus shit. We donít do that over here
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2019, 04:03:40 PM
I'll take that - but dispense with that plus and minus shit. We don't do that over here
Used to when I was a lad.


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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Brownie on November 23, 2019, 04:57:56 PM
Used to when I was a lad.


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Yeah but youíre old
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: blargins on November 23, 2019, 06:20:18 PM
Yeah but you're old
Yep. 48 going on 80.


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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on November 23, 2019, 06:54:11 PM
Yep. 48 going on 80.

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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Evertonian in NC on November 23, 2019, 07:51:19 PM
Sidibe is quite a bit better than Coleman.  Marco has several difficult decisions to make, but this ain't one of 'em.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on November 23, 2019, 07:55:29 PM
Sidibe is quite a bit better than Coleman.  Marco has several difficult decisions to make, but this ain't one of 'em.

Basically just the striker / 3 attacking mids really, right? With injuries, I don't think he has much of a decision to make around the 2 holding/defensive mids; it'll be Schneiderlin & Davies.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on December 10, 2019, 07:33:31 PM
Think he deserves a mention for his performance against Chelsea. MotM.

Thatís 3 assists in 5 games. A strong, modern fullback. He gets caught upfield a bit but you can accommodate that, as Schneiderlein did on Saturday, by dropping in.

He should get better as he settles.


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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Waltzer on December 10, 2019, 07:36:52 PM
Think he deserves a mention for his performance against Chelsea. MotM.

That's 3 assists in 5 games. A strong, modern fullback. He gets caught upfield a bit but you can accommodate that, as Schneiderlein did on Saturday, by dropping in.

He should get better as he settles.


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I know it was different managers but when you add the fact he was dragged off after 30 mins within the previous game is also testament to his character, thought he's done really well of late

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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: dazfrancis on December 10, 2019, 08:12:29 PM
Think he deserves a mention for his performance against Chelsea. MotM.

Thatís 3 assists in 5 games. A strong, modern fullback. He gets caught upfield a bit but you can accommodate that, as Schneiderlein did on Saturday, by dropping in.

He should get better as he settles.




His tackling stats are pretty good too

https://twitter.com/EFC_Statto/status/1204381792658173955
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on December 10, 2019, 10:18:07 PM
Glad you pointed that out ^^^^

Sidibe leads Everton in assists, chances & big chances created, key passes, tackles & interceptions per game based on 90 minutes (and is substantially higher than Coleman in all categories). He's also 4th in xA (and 2nd in xA per 90). Both these numbers have actually gone down considerably as he continues to pile up assists, meaning the "expected" assist are actually becoming assists as Richarlison finishes more of them. Great stuff.

I checked because I wanted to see how he's doing compared to Kenny. He leads Kenny in all categories too (except goals; Kenny had that one pearler from a set piece in Schalke's 2nd or 3rd game). Though to be fair, he doesn't lead him by all that much. Kenny's having what would be considered a great season too, so we may be in a best case scenario, especially considering we have a locked-in option to buy Sidibe at only around £13m.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: sam of the south on December 10, 2019, 10:26:37 PM
Glad you pointed that out ^^^^

Sidibe leads Everton in assists, chances & big chances created, key passes, tackles & interceptions per game based on 90 minutes (and is substantially higher than Coleman in all categories). He's also 4th in xA (and 2nd in xA per 90). Both these numbers have actually gone down considerably as he continues to pile up assists, meaning the "expected" assist are actually becoming assists as Richarlison finishes more of them. Great stuff.

I checked because I wanted to see how he's doing compared to Kenny. He leads Kenny in all categories too (except goals; Kenny had that one pearler from a set piece in Schalke's 2nd or 3rd game). Though to be fair, he doesn't lead him by all that much. Kenny's having what would be considered a great season too, so we may be in a best case scenario, especially considering we have a locked-in option to buy Sidibe at only around £13m.

I reckon Coleman can become a CM..

 :whistle:

Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on December 10, 2019, 10:29:19 PM
I reckon Coleman can become a CM..

 :whistle:

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Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: sam of the south on December 10, 2019, 10:32:19 PM
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Itís a reference to Martinez believing that Baines could become a CM based on Lahm being converted into a rather good one.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on December 10, 2019, 10:34:59 PM
Itís a reference to Martinez believing that Baines could become a CM based on Lahm being converted into a rather good one.

ahhhh

like I know anything from his term lol
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: Juanito on December 12, 2019, 12:48:03 AM
Itís a reference to Martinez believing that Baines could become a CM based on Lahm being converted into a rather good one.

Some of us got it!
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on December 12, 2019, 01:23:03 AM
Itís a reference to Martinez believing that Baines could become a CM based on Lahm being converted into a rather good one.
Have wondered about Calvert Lewin being tried in midfield..
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: sam of the south on December 12, 2019, 01:29:58 AM
Have wondered about Calvert Lewin being tried in midfield..

He used to be one.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: eyesalwaysblue on December 12, 2019, 01:31:39 AM
He used to be one.
Yes but now for us, since he found the pie shop..
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: MmmblueBernard on December 12, 2019, 02:28:57 AM
Itís a reference to Martinez believing that Baines could become a CM based on Lahm being converted into a rather good one.

Given our dearth of defensive midfielders this idea is no longer as mad as it seems.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: blargins on December 12, 2019, 02:31:44 AM
Given our dearth of defensive midfielders this idea is no longer as mad as it seems.

Trouble is with Digne injured we need him back at left back now.
Title: Re: Sidibe
Post by: YankeeBlue214 on December 12, 2019, 02:36:27 AM
Trouble is with Digne injured we need him back at left back now.

speaking of...have we got an update there? and while we're at it...on Mina/Holgate as well? FFS, you're in at back, Blargy