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Title: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: The Golden Vision on February 01, 2012, 09:04:05 AM
I'd go with

Howard

Distin
Heitinga
Hibbert
Baines

Fellaini
Gibson
Pienaar   ;D
Donovan

Cahill
Straq

Introduce Jelavic for either denis or tim on 70 mins

2-0 to Everton
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: pjk on February 01, 2012, 09:10:04 AM
I'd go with

Howard

Distin
Heitinga
Hibbert
Baines

Fellaini
Gibson
Pienaar   ;D
Donovan

Cahill
Straq

Introduce Jelavic for either denis or tim on 70 mins

2-0 to Everton



The smile next to pienaar lolol and am glad Jelavic is a sub
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on February 01, 2012, 09:24:40 AM
I'd probably start as we went out tonight. Bringing on Pienaar and Jelly in the 2nd.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: pjk on February 01, 2012, 09:34:05 AM
I'd probably start as we went out tonight. Bringing on Pienaar and Jelly in the 2nd.

Would like to see Duffy back in. Good decision by Moyes tonight. As long as he dos'nt put pip in midfield
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: keiko on February 01, 2012, 09:43:20 AM
wigan0-5 everton
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: keiko on February 01, 2012, 09:47:20 AM
wigan0-5 everton

 positive in a good mood  kik

stacq hatrick and donovan (1) jelavic (1 off bench)
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: nomorechang on February 01, 2012, 10:12:45 AM
A Straqu trick would be good  , might see if I can find any odds for that one and have a pound or two on it
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: keiko on February 01, 2012, 10:30:10 AM
lolllll hahaha, i drank, so i feel overly positive, and when everton wins! so do not bllame me if you lose your moneys !!  lolol lolol

nomorechang ... but if it does happen (straqutrick) then... i'll give you more tip next time ..ok.  ;D
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: nomorechang on February 01, 2012, 10:34:05 AM
lolllll hahaha, i drank, so i feel overly positive, and when everton wins! so do not bllame me if you lose your moneys !!  lolol lolol

nomorechang ... but if it does happen (straqutrick) then... i'll give you more tip next time ..ok.  ;D

 lolol :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Shogun on February 01, 2012, 12:38:19 PM
                     Howard
 Hibbert    Duffy      Heitinga    Baines
               Fellaini   Gibson
    Donovan      Cahill       Pienaar
                  Straquilursi


would be pleased with this.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: sharpattack on February 01, 2012, 03:21:39 PM
Would like to see Duffy back in. Good decision by Moyes tonight. As long as he dos'nt put pip in midfield
Agreed. Do we know why Duffy was not playing last night?
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: School of Science on February 01, 2012, 03:27:27 PM
Agreed. Do we know why Duffy was not playing last night?

Only guessing here but something to do with his lack of experience fella and what that much vaunted man city attack could do to his confidence,you must admit Moyes got it right.Heitinga had his best game in an Everton shirt,he'd have learnt a lot just watching that
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Macca77 on February 01, 2012, 03:30:34 PM
I cant wait to see Baines and Peinaar linking up again  :hail:
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: gemine69 on February 01, 2012, 03:31:25 PM
                     Howard
 Hibbert    Duffy      Heitinga    Baines
               Fellaini   Gibson
    Donovan      Cahill       Pienaar
                  Straquilursi


would be pleased with this.

This!
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: evertonjoe on February 01, 2012, 03:33:27 PM
Same team, possibly Duffy in for Neville/Hibbert.

Wigan 0:2 Everton
                 Straq
                 Donovan
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Bluenose 91 on February 01, 2012, 03:40:14 PM
Would like to see Jelavic but no way can Straqcualarsi be dropped after last night.

Wigan 1-3 Everton
Moses       Cahill
                 Baines
                 Jelavic
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Thom on February 01, 2012, 04:43:13 PM
I'd probably start as we went out tonight. Bringing on Pienaar and Jelly in the 2nd.

Agreed. I can see Moyes sticking with the team that performed admirably for him last night, with both new boys making appearances from the bench.

It's possible that a couple of them won't be 100% after giving so much effort and energy against City and matches at Wigan tend to be scrappy affairs. Providing we start well and press like we did against City I can see us getting three points.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: marky v on February 01, 2012, 04:49:34 PM
Isn't Distin back in full training? if he's ready i would rather he started at CB
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Alanvideo on February 01, 2012, 05:05:47 PM
If we play our new brand of attacking football and with about 5.000 Blues in the crowd we should give Wiggin a good tonking. Is this too optomistic for this site ?  :snigger: :snigger:
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: }-m-a-c-c-a-{ on February 01, 2012, 05:55:14 PM
I'd drop Neville and Drenthe, won't be surprised if Straq is dropped because he done some running last night, he must still be huffing and puffing!

Not to sure if Jelavic would be put straight in, but I'd love Pienaar back in with Baines.

Just typing about Bainaar gives me movement, gonna have a good end of season.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Ross on February 01, 2012, 06:10:37 PM
I can't see many changes, if any really.

The interesting one is Duffy and Hibbert. I think it was the right thing to do against city but playing a right back in the centre whilst having a fit centre back (and promising talent) sat on the bench doesn't seem right. The only other likely change is Drenthe out for Pienaar. But Moyes is usually reluctant to change a team after performances like last night. Wigans going to be a another scrappy game and that team last night provided it can scrap!
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 01, 2012, 06:48:32 PM
Agreed. I can see Moyes sticking with the team that performed admirably for him last night, with both new boys making appearances from the bench.

It's possible that a couple of them won't be 100% after giving so much effort and energy against City and matches at Wigan tend to be scrappy affairs. Providing we start well and press like we did against City I can see us getting three points.

This
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Trowel on February 01, 2012, 07:10:07 PM
Just typing about Bainaar gives me movement, gonna have a good end of season.

I don't understand why we call them Bainaar - what's wrong with Pienes?
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: CraigS1878 on February 01, 2012, 08:33:43 PM
Would like to see Drenthe given a free role.

                 Howard

Neville   Duffy   Heitinga   Baines

           Gibson   Fellaini

Donovan      Drenthe     Peinaar

                    Straq
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: The Golden Vision on February 01, 2012, 09:23:28 PM
When we last had Bainaar our options down the right were shit. Usually hibbo/osman or neville/anichebe etc

Now with Coleman/Drenthe/Donovan down the right aswell iam buzzing. The ability to strech teams is there and our 2 laziest players have gone. If only we had a quality striker aswell..........Oh wait we do!

When am i going to wake up nurse? *pinches self*
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Outworlder47 on February 01, 2012, 10:08:13 PM
Hibbert was immense yesterday and should probably fall into right back, with either Duffy or Distin (if fit) coming in. Other than that, I don't think you can change the team from what beat City. Pienaar's had basically the equivalent of 4 full matches of time on the pitch this season, so I would hold him out as a substitute for a bit until we're sure he's got his legs fully under him (much like Gibson, although injuries have forced him to be thrown in from the start).

Start with Howard, Hibbert, Heitinga, Duffy/Distin, Baines, Donovan, Fellaini, Gibson, Drenthe, Cahill, Stracqualursi.
Subs: Mucha, Neville, Duffy, Pienaar, Gueye/Anichebe, Vellios, Jelavic
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on February 01, 2012, 10:12:48 PM
When we last had Bainaar our options down the right were shit. Usually hibbo/osman or neville/anichebe etc

Now with Coleman/Drenthe/Donovan down the right aswell iam buzzing. The ability to strech teams is there and our 2 laziest players have gone. If only we had a quality striker aswell..........Oh wait we do!

When am i going to wake up nurse? *pinches self*

You forget that they will probably switch back and forth intermittently too. This means we will get to see a bit of Donovan/Baines partnership too. Teams won't be able to just force it to one side the whole game.

Oh ya: 2 - 0 to the Blues
Cahill and our now Croatian
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: sharpattack on February 02, 2012, 12:10:06 AM
Would like to see Drenthe given a free role.

                 Howard

Neville   Duffy   Heitinga   Baines

           Gibson   Fellaini

Donovan      Drenthe     Peinaar

                    Straq
Now that is a good team
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: DJ1994 on February 02, 2012, 01:04:55 AM
With us being buzzing after that, the only change I would expect is at the back. With either Hibbert or Neville dropping out as the defence was only used in this way as the Manchester City is arguably the most feared in the premier league. hopefully Distin will have another week rest as Wigans strike force isn't exactly world class however may cause problems, I would still prefer Duffy have another game under his belt. We will be high on confidence and away to the bottom of the league and our away form has been more impressive this term than our home and we have not experienced our annual 'thrashing' and hopefully we will have it here. Donovan is overdue a goal and Strac should grab one if not 2 aswell as Jelavic making a quick impact with scoring off bench

hoping for a 0-4 scoreline and i don't think its too farfetched
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Geordie Blue on February 02, 2012, 02:43:20 AM
With us being buzzing after that, the only change I would expect is at the back. With either Hibbert or Neville dropping out as the defence was only used in this way as the Manchester City is arguably the most feared in the premier league. hopefully Distin will have another week rest as Wigans strike force isn't exactly world class however may cause problems, I would still prefer Duffy have another game under his belt. We will be high on confidence and away to the bottom of the league and our away form has been more impressive this term than our home and we have not experienced our annual 'thrashing' and hopefully we will have it here. Donovan is overdue a goal and Strac should grab one if not 2 aswell as Jelavic making a quick impact with scoring off bench

hoping for a 0-4 scoreline and i don't think its too farfetched

That sounds like a game I want to see  :woohoo:
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Always a Toffeeman on February 02, 2012, 04:33:52 AM
to drop anyone after city game is a ridiculous call, hibbert was very good and should continue, just give distin time to recover fully, drenthe i thought had a good game and so did cahill, same team for me, now we have options from the bench!
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Thornton_19 on February 02, 2012, 04:50:37 AM
If we play half as well as we did against city we'll win comfortably. No need to change the team, apart from the Hibbert/Duffy scenario maybe.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Ad1989 on February 02, 2012, 06:41:55 AM
Stracqualursi
Stracqualursi
Stracqualursi
Stracqualursi
Stracqualursi
Stracqualursi
Stracqualursi
Stracqualursi (C)
Stracqualursi
Stracqualursi
Stracqualursi

Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: krakkokain on February 02, 2012, 11:12:09 AM
Hope Distin is back he was in training today so hopefully. Hibbert did well and it was a good  move to pair him vs Aguero as Duffy is a bit slow, so hope Distin is back if not Duffy in, otherwise same team pls.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on February 02, 2012, 12:28:06 PM
I don't expect many changes, possibly Pienaar in for Drenthe. Jelavic will probably get a 10-15 minute run out at the end. Could be a dangerous game this one, Wigan tend to surprise when their backs are against the wall. Saying that though I'm still going to predict a 3-1 win for us, having more fans than them in the stadium should help us. Donovan, Gibson  and Cahill for us with 2 of the 3 coming in the last 10 after Victor Moses has brought the scores level.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: nomorechang on February 02, 2012, 12:37:28 PM
Moyes has had many critics this season but after his decision to play Hibbo instead of Duffy vs City was proven to be a great decision I think whatever team he picks for Saturday should just be accepted as his best option . Most of the time none of us know who's really fit or carrying a knock or who's doing nothing in training , him and his staff do ... Nothing wrong in us offering an opinion , its part of the attraction of the game , ... I just think some of us need to accept we've got an excellent manager whos working miracles under difficult circumstances.
Just to join in though , I think Distin will return and Hibbo will play at RB with Nev dropping to the bench . I also think he'll find a place for Pienaar
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: JoeHart on February 02, 2012, 12:53:43 PM
for once in your life moyes, send out a team to attack.

Every year at wigan, defensive dave puts on his standard negativity head and we show them far to much respect, sitting deep with men behind the ball.

Try

howard
hibbert duffy heitinga baines
fellaini
donovan pienaar drenthe
jelovik straq
4-1-3-2
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Youngy09 on February 02, 2012, 03:39:35 PM
Moyes has had many critics this season but after his decision to play Hibbo instead of Duffy vs City was proven to be a great decision I think whatever team he picks for Saturday should just be accepted as his best option . Most of the time none of us know who's really fit or carrying a knock or who's doing nothing in training , him and his staff do ... Nothing wrong in us offering an opinion , its part of the attraction of the game , ... I just think some of us need to accept we've got an excellent manager whos working miracles under difficult circumstances.
Just to join in though , I think Distin will return and Hibbo will play at RB with Nev dropping to the bench . I also think he'll find a place for Pienaar

I would be shocked and amazed (and delighted) if Neville were dropped. It won't happen.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Straq attack on February 02, 2012, 06:38:39 PM
I imagine same line up as v City, unless Distin is fit.  Potentially Pienaar in for Drenthe too, if he is match fit (I personally would like to see Roy get a run though - and hopefully when Donovan leaves, he will play right and Peanuts will play left).

Tough one to call - depends which Wigan turn up - on their day they seem to be able compete with the top teams, but I am hoping they have another off day. Stracq has the potential to cause some more havoc up front too as Wigan's centre backs tend to look a shambles at the best of times.

2-1 Everton: Stracq and Baines for us, Moses for them

Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Blake on February 02, 2012, 08:58:49 PM
I would be shocked and amazed (and delighted) if Neville were dropped. It won't happen.

He was dropped for Hibbert at RB earlier in the season. With Hibbert's form & Distin back it would be harsher to drop Hibbert.

Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Fern on February 03, 2012, 01:45:29 AM
wigan0-5 everton

0-5? Come on, are you serious? Away from home? See this is what I mean, we tend to get too carried away. Wigan are capable of getting a result and we've still got allot to prove we can win, when expected. Yes, we got a couple players in but let's hope we can match the level of performance against Man City. I know I sound cynical but I also know it's not that simple.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Snipellis11 on February 03, 2012, 02:04:11 AM
Start with the same team that played man city, or bring peanuts in for drenthe, bring jelavic on with 15-20mins left.

2-0 Everton.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Always a Toffeeman on February 03, 2012, 02:10:37 AM
Stracqualursi
Stracqualursi
Stracqualursi
Stracqualursi
Stracqualursi
Stracqualursi
Stracqualursi
Stracqualursi (C)
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Stracqualursi
Stracqualursi



controversial, same team but prefer my captain to be one of the defensive stracqs
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Youngy09 on February 03, 2012, 02:55:57 AM
He was dropped for Hibbert at RB earlier in the season. With Hibbert's form & Distin back it would be harsher to drop Hibbert.



He was dropped because Hibbert was already playing at RB and Neville was playing in midfield, I doubt Moyes will drop him now until he gets injured.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on February 03, 2012, 08:20:32 AM
Stracqualursi
Stracqualursi
Stracqualursi
Stracqualursi
Stracqualursi
Stracqualursi
Stracqualursi
Stracqualursi (C)
Stracqualursi
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So which Stracq is going to score the goals for us in this line up.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: plumber on February 03, 2012, 03:50:26 PM
He was dropped because Hibbert was already playing at RB and Neville was playing in midfield, I doubt Moyes will drop him now until he gets injured.

BS.
Hibbert played six matches at RB without Neville playing in the middle.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: }-m-a-c-c-a-{ on February 03, 2012, 03:53:39 PM
controversial, same team but prefer my captain to be one of the defensive stracqs


I agrre, plus I'd drop Straq from mid and play Straq instead.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: }-m-a-c-c-a-{ on February 03, 2012, 04:03:10 PM
In all honesty I'm excited to see the squad for this Saturday, we click straight away and win well against the worst team in the league, then next week we get Goodison rocking again then we can easily do an inconsistant Chelsea.

I want to see:
Howard

Hibbert Duffy Heitinga Baines

Donovan Fellaini Gibson Pienaar

Cahill

Straq

With Jelavic coming on with at least 30min game time, and give Pienaar n Baines as much time to get their rhythm back.

Who would be captain?

Cahill?
Hibbert?
Heitinga?  ;D
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Polledreng on February 03, 2012, 06:40:25 PM
So which Stracq is going to score the goals for us in this line up.
  no one  ;)
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: DanDan on February 03, 2012, 06:45:06 PM
Could the game get called off? I just remember wigan not having under soil heating and with freezing conditions and snow forecast
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Blue Phoenix on February 03, 2012, 06:57:37 PM
Could the game get called off? I just remember wigan not having under soil heating and with freezing conditions and snow forecast

I believe their pitch is fine, but games have been called off at the DW before because the areas around the ground have been unsafe.

Wigan vs Bolton got called off a couple of years back because of that.

Depends if there's any or much snow tonight in Wigan.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blueski on February 03, 2012, 08:07:58 PM
with the high everyone is on I fear the banana peel for this match, we still are not prolific around the goal

still hard to predict anything other than a win for us, lets hope an early goal too
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Blue Phoenix on February 03, 2012, 08:34:11 PM
Just looked at the latest weather forecast for both Liverpool and Wigan and heavy snow is predicted to fall from 3pm onwards tomorrow. So the match might be okay, but getting home might be a bit of a pain depending on how bad the snowfall is.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blargins on February 03, 2012, 08:35:30 PM
I think it will be 1-1 and we'll be awful. He'll put out:

Howard

Hibbert Heitinga Distin Baines

Donovan Fellaini Gibson Pienaar

Cahill

Straq

I would put out:

Howard

Hibbert Duffy Heitinga Baines

Donovan Fellaini Gibson Pienaar

Drenthe

Jelka

and go for it.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Blue Phoenix on February 03, 2012, 08:38:59 PM
My team would be:

                   Howard

Hibbert  Heitinga  Duffy  Baines

Donovan  Fellaini  Gibson  Pienaar

               Jelavic  Straq


But I reckon the team Moyes will put out will be:

                      Howard

Hibbert  Heitinga  Hibbert  Baines

Donovan  Fellaini  Gibson  Pienaar

                       Cahill

                      Jelavic 
 
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on February 03, 2012, 08:50:54 PM
My team would be:

                   
Howard

Neville  Hibbert  Heitinga  Baines

Donovan  Fellaini  Gibson  Pienaar

Cahill

Straq


But I reckon the team Moyes will put out will be:

                     
Straq
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on February 03, 2012, 09:19:50 PM
Did Jelavic play as a single striker in the SPL or was he typically paired w/ a partner?
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Sres on February 03, 2012, 09:39:45 PM
3 points no problem here, Wigan are poor, we're on a high, I fancy 2 nil, Cahill & Baines (pen)
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: pjk on February 03, 2012, 09:54:58 PM
So which Stracq is going to score the goals for us in this line up.

Howard Straqualursi
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blargins on February 04, 2012, 12:11:01 AM
Did Jelavic play as a single striker in the SPL or was he typically paired w/ a partner?

Up front alone. Slaven Bilic recently did an interview on him, reckons he'll suit our style perfectly.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: nomorechang on February 04, 2012, 04:36:21 AM
Howard

Hibbo
Johnny H
Disty
Bainesy

Donovan
Felli
Gibson
Pienaar

Cahill

Straqu

that's my guess
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blueski on February 04, 2012, 05:43:07 AM
Howard

Hibbo
Johnny H
Disty
Bainesy

Donovan
Felli
Gibson
Pienaar

Cahill

Straqu

that's my guess
dropping Pip to the bench then?
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: nomorechang on February 04, 2012, 06:38:13 AM
dropping Pip to the bench then?

yeah ... Hibbo is a far better RB and Moyes has dropped Nev earlier in the season so he's not averse to doing that . Im just wondering who the cap'n will be in those circumstances ... Cahill ? Johnny ? ... even Hibbo ?
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: brap2 on February 04, 2012, 07:33:30 AM
I'd go for the same team against city, everybody deserved their place for me. If anything, MAYBE do as above and drop pip to the bench. I'm never really happy with him, but the man can organise. Jelavic and peanut to come on later on.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: christiffa25 on February 04, 2012, 01:48:29 PM
The only changes I can see is maybe pienaar for drenthe and maybe distin in at CB if fit.

Straq should start for this one only as he deserves it for his work rate in the last couple of games. Want to see jellavic after an hour though to ease him into his first game. Pienaar needs the minutes quick to get him up to speed and I don't think moyes really trusts drenthe (hardly supprising)

Hopefully get a couple up and we could maybe see a bit of Barkley later in the game!

Anyway 0-2 to the toffee's 
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on February 04, 2012, 03:33:02 PM
I would play Straq and Jela in a 442. Wigan have been pretty awful this season. 2 big men in the box and have Donovan and Baines put some quality in there - watch the panic ensue!
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: krakkokain on February 04, 2012, 03:54:37 PM
Wigan have lost their last 5 games on the trot, not sure if that bodes well for us or not.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Fynci on February 04, 2012, 05:05:54 PM
Wouldn't it be typical for this season to beat the team at the top, and drop points against the team at the bottom.

Let's hope not!
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Youngy09 on February 04, 2012, 05:19:56 PM
yeah ... Hibbo is a far better RB and Moyes has dropped Nev earlier in the season so he's not averse to doing that . Im just wondering who the cap'n will be in those circumstances ... Cahill ? Johnny ? ... even Hibbo ?

Moyes dropped Neville while he was playing midfield and Hibbert was already playing RB. I would be amazed if he dropped him from the RB position.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: plumber on February 04, 2012, 05:39:32 PM
Moyes dropped Neville while he was playing midfield and Hibbert was already playing RB. I would be amazed if he dropped him from the RB position.

Why are you repeating this bullshit?
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blackwatch78efc on February 04, 2012, 05:41:12 PM
real bananna skin this one but just like city i have a good feeling about today..............and thats very rare. lets do these nice and easy 1-0 lol and stuff chelsea whilst we're at it too.

only problem with if we did this is we would then bound to lose to blackpool or wednesday in the cup :(

you know its true
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Youngy09 on February 04, 2012, 05:44:46 PM
Why are you repeating this bullshit?

Because somebody has repeated the fact that Moyes is willing to drop Neville.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: DannyR on February 04, 2012, 05:52:18 PM
2-0 to us

Stracq and Donovan for us.

Gutted I can't go today.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Shogun on February 04, 2012, 06:14:34 PM
Excited to see Bainaar again  ;D

Assuming it happens for some period of the match of course.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Optimistic Blue on February 04, 2012, 06:56:18 PM
i think we will score at least 4 today
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: nottsblue on February 04, 2012, 07:13:12 PM
My team would be:

                   Howard

Hibbert  Heitinga  Duffy  Baines

Donovan  Fellaini  Gibson  Pienaar

               Jelavic  Straq


But I reckon the team Moyes will put out will be:

                      Howard

Hibbert  Heitinga  Hibbert  Baines

Donovan  Fellaini  Gibson  Pienaar

                       Cahill

                      Jelavic 
 
I know Moyes loves him but Hibbert is going to be busy playing right back and centre half! :o
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: kunal32 on February 04, 2012, 07:31:48 PM
Think it'll be the same line up as Tuesday. Maybe within Duffy coming back in Defence and Jelavic on the bench and Pienaar not included at all.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on February 04, 2012, 07:52:39 PM
No way Pienaar won't make the bench...at least.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Shogun on February 04, 2012, 07:56:14 PM
Early team news whisper is that Distin is back for Everton
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on February 04, 2012, 07:59:03 PM
Early team news whisper is that Distin is back for Everton

I don't mind this as long as it doesn't mean Neville in midfield
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Thom on February 04, 2012, 08:06:32 PM
Team confirmed: Howard, Hibbert, Heitinga, Distin, Baines, Fellaini, Pienaar, Donovan, Gibson, Cahill, Stracqualursi.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on February 04, 2012, 08:07:53 PM
I see Denis is captain.good luck lad
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Shogun on February 04, 2012, 08:07:54 PM
EFC bench: Mucha, Jelavic, Drenthe, Neville, Gueye, Victor, Duffy
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Trowel on February 04, 2012, 08:07:56 PM
No Neville, yay!
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: kunal32 on February 04, 2012, 08:08:46 PM
Surprised that Pienaar is included, Moyes said he'll need time to get back up to speed as he hadn't played much for Spurs.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Youngy09 on February 04, 2012, 08:10:27 PM
I have to hold my hands up as Neville on the bench! ( I was wrong Plumber!)
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Lewis on February 04, 2012, 08:12:02 PM
Surprised that Pienaar is included, Moyes said he'll need time to get back up to speed as he hadn't played much for Spurs.

He also mentioned that he was a junior cross-country champion and hoped that would pull him through it. Think the fact he distrusts Drenthe away from home and that Pienaar is a proven quantity in the Premiership has played a big part in it as well
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: nomorechang on February 04, 2012, 08:12:26 PM
Howard

Hibbo
Johnny H
Disty
Bainesy

Donovan
Felli
Gibson
Pienaar

Cahill

Straqu

that's my guess


ahem .....
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: bluestevie on February 04, 2012, 08:19:24 PM
glad to have sylvain back, pienaar making his second debut and straq starting again. would have loved seeing jelavic starting too but i believe hes been getting over flu this week
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: plumber on February 04, 2012, 08:19:54 PM
I have to hold my hands up as Neville on the bench! ( I was wrong Plumber!)

With this polite post you have prevented me from calling you a dumbass.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Youngy09 on February 04, 2012, 08:21:59 PM
With this polite post you have prevented me from calling you a dumbass.

Ha ha, I am a dumbass! I am made up with the team selection from Moyes though! It's down to the players now!
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Risky on February 04, 2012, 08:26:06 PM
Like that team, but it will be interesting to see whether Pienaar slots straight back in or not.  I'm hoping that Jelavic gets a decent run out 2nd half.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blueski on February 04, 2012, 08:26:54 PM
I see Denis is captain.good luck lad
This a wind up?

If not quality decision by moyes and well deserved
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on February 04, 2012, 08:33:05 PM
This a wind up?

If not quality decision by moyes and well deserved

Yeah just joking!its probably cahill
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blargins on February 04, 2012, 08:34:06 PM
Would rather Drenthe in for Cahill to be honest, but other than that not a bad line up and options from the bench. We should beat Wigan comfortably, but I still think we're going to struggle.

Straq captain? Now that is a strange decision.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blargins on February 04, 2012, 08:37:31 PM
Yeah just joking!its probably cahill

Thank fuck for that lol
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: bluestevie on February 04, 2012, 08:38:41 PM
would think it would be hibbo as captain wouldn't it?
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Gary Iceman on February 04, 2012, 08:39:03 PM
2 redshites on the panel on skysports ( fowler and thompson ) fowler thinks wigan win thompson thinks draw, merson and nicholas thinks we will win, someone has to be right, i just hope it aint fowler or big nose.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blueski on February 04, 2012, 08:50:28 PM
Yeah just joking!its probably cahill
Probably for the best as I'm not sure I can take seeing the man crying again
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: The Binmans Union on February 04, 2012, 08:59:52 PM


YES



What a channel
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Fynci on February 04, 2012, 09:00:34 PM
Anybody know who is captain today?
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blargins on February 04, 2012, 09:05:35 PM
Pienaar is looking like he's never left.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: C_M2011 on February 04, 2012, 09:06:26 PM
pienaar looks so comfortable in the team. i got a good feeling about him wanting to stay  :hail:
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: The Binmans Union on February 04, 2012, 09:07:01 PM
Pienaar is looking like he's never left.

this
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on February 04, 2012, 09:18:29 PM
It is on FSC for those in the states.

I'm liking the way we are looking on the counter. Creative passes and we aren't just flushing it down the sides and looking for a cross.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: guymurphy1989 on February 04, 2012, 09:19:51 PM
Donovan looks tired...
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on February 04, 2012, 09:20:36 PM
A combo of confidence and Pienaar returning has transformed our midfield and style of play. Passing, moving, God I've missed this!
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on February 04, 2012, 09:21:57 PM
Amazed how well we are keeping possession.
and
The so many times Straq has already been caught offsides
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: The Binmans Union on February 04, 2012, 09:29:22 PM
Jelavic '62
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: slothzen on February 04, 2012, 09:33:19 PM
We look tired now.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blargins on February 04, 2012, 09:36:12 PM
A far cry from the City game. Pienaar looking the brightest spark.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Alex on February 04, 2012, 09:36:47 PM
We started out very well, but then Wigan actually started playing
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: The Binmans Union on February 04, 2012, 09:38:57 PM
We look tired now.

Drenthe and Jelavic on in the second half, a few words from Moyes too, will revitalise us and see us take these.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: sharpattack on February 04, 2012, 09:40:30 PM
Gibson is having a bad hair day
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Fynci on February 04, 2012, 09:42:27 PM
Gibson is having a bad hair day

He's playing terrible. Has backup player written all over him.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on February 04, 2012, 09:43:12 PM
Gibson so so sloppy with his passing. Hopefully that is just temporary given his game time, but still would expect better.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blueski on February 04, 2012, 09:44:10 PM
Conditions aren't helping us any good to see a little creativity here and there
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on February 04, 2012, 09:46:38 PM
A half to forget really. Good to see Pienaar back though.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Gary Iceman on February 04, 2012, 09:46:50 PM
What an awful game
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: GNSNOEFC on February 04, 2012, 09:47:12 PM
not the best of halfs like but not the worst
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on February 04, 2012, 09:47:39 PM
We look pretty weak down the right hand side.

Still, we're actually playing football again.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Thom on February 04, 2012, 09:49:01 PM
Drab game that's not being helped by the conditions. Couple of our lads look a little tired; possibly from the effort put in against City.

If we can go up a gear or two and maybe introduce the likes of Jelavic and Drenthe for freshness after 15-20 minutes then we should go and win this one.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: C-R-A-I-G on February 04, 2012, 09:49:07 PM
It hasnt been a bad first half considering the weather and the poor quality of the pitch, it really is an awful surface. Hopefully we will take a 1-0 win here.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Bally on February 04, 2012, 09:50:38 PM
not a game I am going to remmeber at all up to yet gibson is having a stinker \Denis has done ok again couple of good lay offs from him and his ball into the baox was excellent, Pienaar settled quick which was to be expected really Fellaini looks really slow and laboriuos yet is not losing out to much, hibbo solid as usual
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on February 04, 2012, 09:50:45 PM
Gibson has shown he is far from what we need in midfield right now, awful awful half for the lad
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: The Binmans Union on February 04, 2012, 09:52:32 PM
Started brightly and then turned into a pretty dour half. Maybe partly due to our expectations after the City game and the new signings in contrast the the City game taking it out of the players during the week and the poor conditons.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: AidyEFC9 on February 04, 2012, 09:52:49 PM
Gibson so so sloppy with his passing. Hopefully that is just temporary given his game time, but still would expect better.


He's not the only one!. Cahill as played a few shit passes aswell, one where Stracq had to slide in and put it out for a throw and one where he played it out for a throw trying to put Donovan in on the right. Tbh Cahill as been wank, Stracqs been in and out and we don't seem as up for it as Tuesday night, and how shaky do we look at the back now Distin is in there?!.

Send the same side back out and see if they up it and if not i'd swap Cahill for Drenthe and shift him to right and have Donovan play off Jelavic when we sub him on for Stracq
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: pjk on February 04, 2012, 09:53:25 PM
Good stop earlier by Howard. Distin needs a bit more communication with Howard. Bad stream so I don't know if that is fair criticism.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Trowel on February 04, 2012, 09:53:56 PM
Gibson's done alright in picking up the 2nd ball and breaking Wigan up in the middle, it's what he's done once he's  the ball at his feet that hasn't worked.

Some nice passing moves, and as much as we missed his creativity, Pienaar really helps press us higher which lends us an air of confidence.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on February 04, 2012, 09:58:21 PM
Not as good as I would hope, but not awful, would like to see Jelavic early next half for either strac or cahill.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blargins on February 04, 2012, 09:58:33 PM

He's not the only one!. Cahill as played a few shit passes aswell, one where Stracq had to slide in and put it out for a throw and one where he played it out for a throw trying to put Donovan in on the right. Tbh Cahill as been wank, Stracqs been in and out and we don't seem as up for it as Tuesday night, and how shaky do we look at the back now Distin is in there?!.

Send the same side back out and see if they up it and if not i'd swap Cahill for Drenthe and shift him to right and have Donovan play off Jelavic when we sub him on for Stracq

I expected it to be a poor game. All the hype and after a big game like the mid week was bound to be a downer. I don't like Distin in the team, it feels like we're less in control at the back. Duffy and even Hibbert felt more solid.

I really am not liking the look of Gibson. But if he's a squad player, I won't grumble. We need Osman back in the side now.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on February 04, 2012, 10:02:26 PM
Phil Neville on...?!?
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on February 04, 2012, 10:02:45 PM
Shit sub... Inury? Either way not exactly attacking we now are playing with 3 holding midfielders...
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: The Binmans Union on February 04, 2012, 10:02:51 PM
or maybe neville

Fellaini moving up?
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on February 04, 2012, 10:03:04 PM
Neville for Cahill?!?!??!??
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blargins on February 04, 2012, 10:03:21 PM
Wtf? Neville for Cahill??????
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Ross on February 04, 2012, 10:03:28 PM
Neville on. Cahill off.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on February 04, 2012, 10:04:09 PM
Fellaini being pushed up I'd presume.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: efctaxi on February 04, 2012, 10:04:23 PM
If we win midfield we will win the match. Interesting substitution.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Amata on February 04, 2012, 10:04:33 PM
Jesus
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Fynci on February 04, 2012, 10:05:33 PM
Terrible sub. Prove us wrong Moyes!
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Stumpy on February 04, 2012, 10:06:50 PM
A poor half of football,but the game is there for the taking.Gibson's passing is already starting to piss me off,and he should have scored from Baines's pull back.Jelovic for a knackered looking Cahill should inject a bit more spark that is evidently missing.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Amata on February 04, 2012, 10:07:33 PM
Carried on where we left off, dreadful.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on February 04, 2012, 10:07:35 PM
A poor half of football,but the game is there for the taking.Gibson's passing is already starting to piss me off,and he should have scored from Baines's pull back.Jelovic for a knackered looking Cahill should inject a bit more spark that is evidently missing.

Cahill is already off for Neville.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: bluedavey on February 04, 2012, 10:07:55 PM
Cahill ankle injury
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blargins on February 04, 2012, 10:08:18 PM
Fellaini being pushed up I'd presume.

We just bought a striker to do that ffs.

Fellaini is not a striker.

I'm sure he has his logic...
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on February 04, 2012, 10:08:28 PM
I can't see us winning midfield with Fellaini out of it. Moyes will really never change, will he?
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Brownie on February 04, 2012, 10:08:41 PM
So Gubson is going to be the new Simon Davies or Bily.  He may have his limitations but he has an everton badge on his chest. Let's get behind him eh?
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Stumpy on February 04, 2012, 10:09:04 PM
Neville for Cahill? oh fuck off moyes.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: GNSNOEFC on February 04, 2012, 10:09:44 PM
So Gubson is going to be the new Simon Davies or Bily.  He may have his limitations but he has an everton badge on his chest. Let's get behind him eh?
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: djws1788 on February 04, 2012, 10:10:50 PM
jelavic on for gibson at about 60 mins hopefully?
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Fynci on February 04, 2012, 10:11:11 PM
Who was captain in te first half?
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Gary Iceman on February 04, 2012, 10:11:38 PM
ffs feli
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on February 04, 2012, 10:13:03 PM
Get Royston on, hel have these
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: TheRam on February 04, 2012, 10:13:27 PM
So Moyes has brought on Neville for Cahill.

Knob
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: bluedavey on February 04, 2012, 10:14:57 PM
So Moyes has brought on Neville for Cahill.

Knob

Weren't people saying the same kind of thing for bringing Hibbert in for Duffy
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Verm on February 04, 2012, 10:16:34 PM
Weren't people saying the same kind of thong for bringing Hibbert in for Duffy

Hibbert, although not a CB is at least a capable defender.

Phil Neville is not, by any stretch of the imagination, a midfielder.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on February 04, 2012, 10:17:12 PM
good early sub
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Verm on February 04, 2012, 10:17:24 PM
Jelavic!!
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on February 04, 2012, 10:17:30 PM
Jelly on for Straq
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Gary Iceman on February 04, 2012, 10:17:58 PM
C,mon jelavic..
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on February 04, 2012, 10:18:18 PM
Time to see if our money has been well spent.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blargins on February 04, 2012, 10:18:40 PM
At last, the sub we wanted. Come on you blues.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on February 04, 2012, 10:18:48 PM
Brilliant dummy.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on February 04, 2012, 10:19:03 PM
Hibbert has been working on his dribbling skillz.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 04, 2012, 10:19:33 PM
Neville for Cahill fuck off
Jelevic for Strac Fuck off
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Verm on February 04, 2012, 10:20:05 PM
Early signs are good, he looks sharp.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on February 04, 2012, 10:20:28 PM
Brilliant dummy.

This. Haven't seen one of those from an Everton striker in a long while
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: bluegrant on February 04, 2012, 10:20:55 PM
Neville for Cahill fuck off
Jelevic for Strac Fuck off
crist dont tell me hes going for a draw shakeyheadman
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Amata on February 04, 2012, 10:21:42 PM
Keep the ball on the f*cking floor!
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Verm on February 04, 2012, 10:22:25 PM
This has last on MOTD written all over it.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Amata on February 04, 2012, 10:22:26 PM
Gibson off for Drenthe
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Fynci on February 04, 2012, 10:22:31 PM
Wigan fancy 3 points with these subs.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on February 04, 2012, 10:22:36 PM
Bring on Drenthe
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: charlatan on February 04, 2012, 10:26:06 PM
Neville for Cahill fuck off
Jelevic for Strac Fuck off

This.  NIce to see we're back to pre-tuesday-esque shite again.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Verm on February 04, 2012, 10:30:20 PM
Fuck sake Baines
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: bigac on February 04, 2012, 10:31:52 PM
Swansea, Norwich, Sunderland all winning. We cant beat worst team in the league to keep up. :headbang:
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on February 04, 2012, 10:32:08 PM
Horrible game this!il take an ugly win now and worry about the performance another time
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: irishtoffee on February 04, 2012, 10:32:16 PM
definately time for change. Wigan are brutal and we still can't break them down. Lots of meaningless possession. we either need vic up top with jelavic or royston on the wing
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: BatteredCornerFlag on February 04, 2012, 10:32:23 PM
Not feeling good about this at all
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on February 04, 2012, 10:32:57 PM
FFS
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Verm on February 04, 2012, 10:32:58 PM
FUCK OFF HOWARD
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on February 04, 2012, 10:33:26 PM
FFS that was awful
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Tinga on February 04, 2012, 10:33:28 PM
......Facepalm......
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Verm on February 04, 2012, 10:33:31 PM
How the fuck did he not get to that?
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: charlatan on February 04, 2012, 10:33:52 PM
Fuck off you useless cunts
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on February 04, 2012, 10:33:57 PM
You've got to be kidding me.

Fucking shitty turf.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: TheRam on February 04, 2012, 10:34:10 PM
Moyes out, Im serious by the way his lack of imagination on the pitch is killing us.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: GNSNOEFC on February 04, 2012, 10:34:33 PM
it was the fuckin pitch not howard
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on February 04, 2012, 10:34:50 PM
Abysmal game plan from Moyes so far.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: sharpattack on February 04, 2012, 10:35:00 PM
Moyes out, Im serious by the way his lack of imagination on the pitch is killing us.
No, I think it's the fact that the keeper is a moron.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: guymurphy1989 on February 04, 2012, 10:35:17 PM
it spins up and away from him. Horrible but could never have judged that spin
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Verm on February 04, 2012, 10:35:20 PM
Phil Neville own goal...
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: steve81 on February 04, 2012, 10:35:39 PM
neville
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Verm on February 04, 2012, 10:35:52 PM
Now he literally is doing us more harm than good
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on February 04, 2012, 10:35:54 PM
Abysmal game plan from Moyes so far.

Just about to say this. This loss will completely on him if the result stands. He has made bad subs and has let Martinez, who isn't a bad manager, completely out scheme him.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on February 04, 2012, 10:36:02 PM
It is fitting that a goal so ugly should win a game like this.totally rank
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Fern on February 04, 2012, 10:36:08 PM
Moyes out, Im serious by the way his lack of imagination on the pitch is killing us.

oh here we go it's all down to Moyes. it's the only thing you can come up with? Because of one sub decision? These players never rise to the occasion. They need to share the blame as well
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: TheRam on February 04, 2012, 10:36:21 PM
No, I think it's the fact that the keeper is a moron.

No Moyes is a moron with that fucking shitty sub at half time
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: steve81 on February 04, 2012, 10:37:11 PM
unbelievable beat the top team and lose agains the bottom terrible
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on February 04, 2012, 10:37:31 PM
Are we seriously blaming Neville for that? Get a grip guys.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on February 04, 2012, 10:37:37 PM
Drenthe for Gibson please
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: DannyR on February 04, 2012, 10:37:47 PM
:headbang:
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: C-R-A-I-G on February 04, 2012, 10:38:07 PM
The pitch is a disgrace and shouldnt be acceptable at this level.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on February 04, 2012, 10:38:13 PM
No Moyes is a moron with that fucking shitty sub at half time

Cannot understand his thinking with his half time switch.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: bigac on February 04, 2012, 10:38:14 PM
Dont care if it was unlucky on Neville the fact he was on the pitch at all is disgraceful.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Verm on February 04, 2012, 10:38:29 PM
Are we seriously blaming Neville for that? Get a grip guys.

Blaming Howard, captain fantastic getting the last touch just makes it worse
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Alex on February 04, 2012, 10:38:40 PM
No heart here, noone even showing for the ball
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Verm on February 04, 2012, 10:38:43 PM
Wonder why Moyes hates Drenthe?
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: GNSNOEFC on February 04, 2012, 10:38:54 PM
anichebe on for hibbert
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on February 04, 2012, 10:39:00 PM
Anichebe on for Hibbert.

Why no Drenthe? Long ball, long ball, long ball for the rest of this game.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: The Binmans Union on February 04, 2012, 10:39:16 PM

Are we really going to beat top and lose to bottom in five days?
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Fern on February 04, 2012, 10:39:44 PM
No Moyes is a moron with that fucking shitty sub at half time

And that decision led to us losing did it? There was no bite in midfield, that's what he was trying to change. We just dont have anyone to fit that mould.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: GNSNOEFC on February 04, 2012, 10:40:25 PM
Wonder why Moyes hates Drenthe?
because he didnt bring him on? i would rather a striker on instead of a midfielder
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on February 04, 2012, 10:40:29 PM
Get in!!!!
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on February 04, 2012, 10:40:30 PM
COYB
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Tinga on February 04, 2012, 10:40:38 PM
Thanks Vic!!
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: TheRam on February 04, 2012, 10:40:43 PM
And that decision led to us losing did it? There was no bite in midfield, that's what he was trying to change. We just dont have anyone to fit that mould.

Going round fouling people dosent count as bite
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blargins on February 04, 2012, 10:40:50 PM
We've seen the best and worst of Moyes in a week.

What a waste of a sub putting Neville on. This was tailor made for Drenthe to come on.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: GNSNOEFC on February 04, 2012, 10:40:53 PM
FUCKIN GET IN  COYB
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: guymurphy1989 on February 04, 2012, 10:40:57 PM
fucking get in
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on February 04, 2012, 10:41:00 PM
Ha - Anichebe the saviour again! Fantastic header.
Title: Ogba
Post by: Bily No Pace on February 04, 2012, 10:41:04 PM
Nice one Victor. Drogba mark 2.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Verm on February 04, 2012, 10:41:15 PM
Come on!!!!!
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: irishtoffee on February 04, 2012, 10:41:19 PM
go on vic
Title: COYB
Post by: Bily No Pace on February 04, 2012, 10:41:33 PM
1 more lads. Come on!
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blargins on February 04, 2012, 10:41:33 PM
Yes!!!
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Nicco on February 04, 2012, 10:41:43 PM
And after that first shitty substitution he puts Jelavic on for Stracq instead of Gibson!
Jelavic on is good, but what about two strikers?

Like Anichiebe!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on February 04, 2012, 10:41:45 PM
Need to push on for the win. Would be a massive 3 for us.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: GNSNOEFC on February 04, 2012, 10:41:55 PM
Anichebe on for Hibbert.

Why no Drenthe? Long ball, long ball, long ball for the rest of this game.
rather have  a striker on instead of a midfielder, also just to edit thats why he came on instead of a midfielder
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Verm on February 04, 2012, 10:41:57 PM
Jelavic for the winner now ;)
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: philly on February 04, 2012, 10:42:09 PM
Let's kick on and win this!
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on February 04, 2012, 10:42:12 PM
well in vic lad
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Fern on February 04, 2012, 10:42:22 PM
Hope all you Anichebe haters would give him  credit for all he's done recently like you have with BK's one good thing in 11 years.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on February 04, 2012, 10:42:30 PM
Go figure that. Two strikers on and we score a goal.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blargins on February 04, 2012, 10:42:45 PM
rather have  a striker on instead of a midfielder, also just to edit thats why he came on instead of a midfielder

No probs with Vic coming on, just Neville. Drenthe for Cahill it should have been.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: evertonjoe on February 04, 2012, 10:43:09 PM
Wow Big Vic will be our top scorer by a mile this season at this rate.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: TheRam on February 04, 2012, 10:43:35 PM
Hope all you Anichebe haters would give him  credit for all he's done recently like you have with BK's one good thing in 11 years.

tbf most people have
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: GNSNOEFC on February 04, 2012, 10:43:50 PM
No probs with Vic coming on, just Neville. Drenthe for Cahill it should have been.
yes maybe so but people are moanin a striker came on instead of a midfielder when we need goals?
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on February 04, 2012, 10:44:21 PM
Vic already looks a bit knackered  :shock:
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Tinga on February 04, 2012, 10:44:27 PM
How is that a foul by Pienaar?
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Thornton_19 on February 04, 2012, 10:44:35 PM
Just got in Dire game i take it?
Title: Nope, wrong
Post by: Bily No Pace on February 04, 2012, 10:45:03 PM
Go figure that. Two strikers on and we score a goal.

yea but we played two strikers that one time and we played poorly so we should never use it again, right?
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on February 04, 2012, 10:45:19 PM
Come on Baines
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: TheRam on February 04, 2012, 10:45:23 PM
Just got in Dire game i take it?

Baines is gonna score now tho  :)
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Alex on February 04, 2012, 10:45:52 PM
Fellaini back in position makes us a much better team. I think Neville was brought on so he could be moved back to RB later in the game.
Title: Love that word
Post by: Bily No Pace on February 04, 2012, 10:45:58 PM
Hope all you Anichebe haters would give him  credit for all he's done recently like you have with BK's one good thing in 11 years.

What a pleb you are
Title: Melt is better than pleb
Post by: TheRam on February 04, 2012, 10:46:42 PM
What a pleb you are

He's right you melt
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Verm on February 04, 2012, 10:46:48 PM
Fucking hell vic, that was poor.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: GNSNOEFC on February 04, 2012, 10:46:54 PM
Baines is gonna score now tho  :)
would of if u didnt say that
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Tinga on February 04, 2012, 10:47:08 PM
 :bonk:
Title: Hey mistakes happen
Post by: Bily No Pace on February 04, 2012, 10:47:34 PM
He's right you melt

Sorry was meant to quote that Fern lad. Sorry blargs you know I love you :)
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: TheRam on February 04, 2012, 10:47:52 PM
would of if u didnt say that

Yerrrrrr he defo would of like  
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Fern on February 04, 2012, 10:48:50 PM
Post deleted by moderator due to breaking of forum rules
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Verm on February 04, 2012, 10:49:13 PM
Draw's probably fair, just shit the way we've given that goal away.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: matty1878 on February 04, 2012, 10:49:55 PM
Why can't Moyes make attacking subs instead of Phil fuckin Neville in midfield
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on February 04, 2012, 10:50:05 PM
What was that? Howard having a poor game. That could have cost us again.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: philly on February 04, 2012, 10:51:05 PM
Why can't Moyes make attacking subs instead of Phil fuckin Neville in midfield

Like victor on for Hibbert????
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Verm on February 04, 2012, 10:51:14 PM
If the linesman didnt call that how the fuck can the ref?
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Tinga on February 04, 2012, 10:51:16 PM
Why the fuck did Jelavic do that  :headbang:
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: charlatan on February 04, 2012, 10:51:21 PM
Prick of a substitution.  Hibbert is shite, but looks like Jairzinho compared to that clubfooted fucking Manc.  If you want bite in midfield, put a fucking midfielder on not a fullback that just fouls in dangerous areas.

The fact he has ended up at fullback is just a complete waste of a substitution, instead of bringing someone in that can make a difference.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on February 04, 2012, 10:51:37 PM
Dumb from Jelly
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Verm on February 04, 2012, 10:52:09 PM
Cheers Tim Howard...
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on February 04, 2012, 10:52:20 PM
Awful game. Awful mistakes. Awful substitutions.

Moyes...why?
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: sharpattack on February 04, 2012, 10:52:29 PM
Are we seriously blaming Neville for that? Get a grip guys.
Incredible isn't it. That should be a sacking offence for Howard
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: evertonjoe on February 04, 2012, 10:52:36 PM
Only saw the second half but that was terrible.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: irishtoffee on February 04, 2012, 10:52:45 PM
what a load of shit
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Gary Iceman on February 04, 2012, 10:52:53 PM
what a load of fucking crap
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: philly on February 04, 2012, 10:53:30 PM
Thanks Tim, more points you've cost us today  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Youngy09 on February 04, 2012, 10:53:36 PM
Fuck off Moyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I wrongly said he wouldn't drop Neville, but he couldn't wait to waste a sub to put the prick back on. What a stupid substitution!
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on February 04, 2012, 10:53:39 PM
To be fair I would have taken 4 points from the last two games any day of the week. I just never thought it would have been 3 from Citeh and 1 from Wigan.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Verm on February 04, 2012, 10:53:47 PM
Well that's any momentum from Tuesday killed off.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: TheRam on February 04, 2012, 10:54:32 PM
How many times are people gonna accept this shit from Moyes?

I want him gone
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: GNSNOEFC on February 04, 2012, 10:55:02 PM
just LOL how the fuck can people blame howard? the pitch was shit the pitch was the fault the pitch was the reason they scored FFS  :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Shogun on February 04, 2012, 10:55:04 PM
Thanks Moyes.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Paul. on February 04, 2012, 10:55:13 PM
Thanks Tim, more points you've cost us today  :thumbsup:

how is that his mistake ? did you see the swerve it took once it bounced ?
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Danny on February 04, 2012, 10:55:17 PM
Well that's any momentum from Tuesday killed off.

I dont think theres going to be a storm this season, it'll just be a 12th place finish at most.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on February 04, 2012, 10:55:32 PM
back down to earth with a bump there!grateful for a point after they took the lead. We looked knackered today, Pienaar aside.  All of a sudden though we haven't got a shit manager or a shit goalkeeper, despite what some think
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Thom on February 04, 2012, 10:56:12 PM
Nothing that Howard could have done about that. The spin on the ball has completely deceived him at the last second. It wasn't a good performance and a draw was a fair result, but it wasn't solely Howard's fault for us dropping two points.

I will say that I thought the substitution to bring Neville on backfired. Pushing Fellaini further forward works when we're chasing matches, especially at home, but in a match like today it didn't work, so Moyes is at fault for that.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on February 04, 2012, 10:56:43 PM
glad to have peanuts back, slotted right in, best player on the pitch.  Only highlight of a pretty grim afternoon though
Title: Re: Nope, wrong
Post by: sam of the south on February 04, 2012, 10:57:15 PM
yea but we played two strikers that one time and we played poorly so we should never use it again, right?

Loving the irony, Bily  :thumbsup:

Moyes, the ref and Howard had howlers. Not blaming Howard for goal, his piss poor punching (alliteration) is going to get us in trouble soon.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Fynci on February 04, 2012, 10:57:33 PM
Some of you are real clowns.

We were Barcelona according to a lot of you against City, and now we've come back to earth, you want Moyes out.... embarrassing.

We played some nice stuff at times, but it wasn't enough. We were made to look just 'okay' by the bottom club. A point was probably a fair result at the final whistle.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Optimistic Blue on February 04, 2012, 10:58:00 PM
Get in! snatched from the jaws of defeat grab ourselves a well deserved point

the uprising continues
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on February 04, 2012, 10:58:12 PM
I'd be willing to bet the people blaming Howard for that goal have never played football in their lives
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: TheRam on February 04, 2012, 10:58:39 PM
Some of you are real clowns.

We were Barcelona according to a lot of you against City, and now we've come back to earth, you want Moyes out.... embarrassing.

We played some nice stuff at times, but it wasn't enough. We were made to look just 'okay' by the bottom club. A point was probably a fair result at the final whistle.

Ive wanted him gone for a while
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Verm on February 04, 2012, 10:58:45 PM
Nothing that Howard could have done?

It was comfortably within arms reach for him and not travelling very quickly at all.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: bluemanx3 on February 04, 2012, 10:59:03 PM
can somebody tell me why neville gets a game, he is shit beyond comprehension
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on February 04, 2012, 10:59:32 PM
Get in! snatched from the jaws of defeat grab ourselves a well deserved point

the uprising continues

A lot of people will hate this, But i buzz off it!
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: dunkster on February 04, 2012, 11:00:18 PM
Didn't get to see game watched love goals on my phone. soon as saw neville not Tim i thought and that's why moyes will never make the very top.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Murder on February 04, 2012, 11:00:24 PM
4-5-1 until the 80th minute against bottom of the league.

I can't take it anymore.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: bigac on February 04, 2012, 11:01:07 PM
Hope Moyes mans up to admit that was a shocking sub to bring Neville on. Cost the game and not just for the own goal. Was crying out for the drive of Drenthe today.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Murder on February 04, 2012, 11:01:15 PM
can somebody tell me why neville gets a game, he is shit beyond comprehension


He's one of Moyes' boys.

That's the only reason.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: sharpattack on February 04, 2012, 11:01:16 PM
can somebody tell me why neville gets a game, he is shit beyond comprehension

Strange decision by moyes alright. That said Gibson was dire and Straqualirsi is very poor.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: christiffa25 on February 04, 2012, 11:02:05 PM
Big moyes fan, not any part of the get him out brigade but...

That was his fault today. Probably the right team selection but every decision after that was wrong!

I almost hate Fellani up top as Neville in CM.

Drenthe should of been brought on, pienaar in the middle, Donovan right and we would of played right through them!

Frustrated!!
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on February 04, 2012, 11:02:14 PM
Nothing that Howard could have done about that. The spin on the ball has completely deceived him at the last second. It wasn't a good performance and a draw was a fair result, but it wasn't solely Howard's fault for us dropping two points.

I will say that I thought the substitution to bring Neville on backfired. Pushing Fellaini further forward works when we're chasing matches, especially at home, but in a match like today it didn't work, so Moyes is at fault for that.

This. Usually we hold the ball up better but this time we just lost all cohesion in midfield. Bizarre given that we had a striker on the bench who was supposedly able to play that actual role.

First impression of Jelavic would half to be that we seem to have bought another forward of the same type we already have, albeit lets hope with a bit more quality. He didn't see much of the ball though so we'll have to see a few games from now when he has settled in a bit.

Good to see Pienaar back, and Anichebe on the scoresheet.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 04, 2012, 11:02:30 PM
Moyes fault we didnt win. they were there for the taking. some truley AWFUL subs.
Neville is so so fucking bad. He makes my blood boil.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: charlatan on February 04, 2012, 11:02:44 PM
can somebody tell me why neville gets a game, he is shit beyond comprehension


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Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Shogun on February 04, 2012, 11:03:16 PM
How many strikers were on the pitch when we scored by the way?
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: efctaxi on February 04, 2012, 11:03:26 PM
Bizarre Wigan goal. The ball seemed to spin away from Howard, though Howard should have all angles covered from experience.

Anichebe did well with the goal but his movement was half arsed.

Wigan played well overall, but I thought we would beat them today. Saw nothing from Jelavic to form any opinion, and felt Fellaini was our best player. Pienaar looked good too.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on February 04, 2012, 11:03:40 PM
Get in! snatched from the jaws of defeat grab ourselves a well deserved point

the uprising continues

I fucking love you!
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: bluegrant on February 04, 2012, 11:04:00 PM
ffs moysies stupid subs again  :headbang: neville must give one hell of a blowjob :whistle:
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on February 04, 2012, 11:04:21 PM
4-5-1 until the 80th minute against bottom of the league.

I can't take it anymore.

And then in the 81st minute, with two on, we score. Bizarre. The Neville on for Cahill and Fellaini further forward scenario was quite demoralising as a fan.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: AidyEFC9 on February 04, 2012, 11:05:33 PM
That result and performance as certainly brought us crashing back down to earth hasn't it!. Fucking rubbish!. And tbh with a central midfield like that behind him, Jelavic is going to struggle to do the business for us!. Not once did any of the likes of Felli or Gibson look to play a through ball or ball over the top, they look to shift it wide at every opportunity. and when they did try a through ball it was of wank quality and always either cut out or behind are player.

Howard had a shocker for there goal but why didn't Hibbo get out to Beausejour quicker and cut the cross out?! I just cant believe how indifferent we can be from one game being full of bottle and battling like mad and then that load of shit today. We never have back to back decent games, always either one decent, then shit, one good game then back to average, no consistency what so ever!.

And like some have said, why bring Neville on for Cahill?. I'd of brought Drenthe on and put him wide right and had Donovan playing off of Stracq. When Felli went to play off Stracq we didn't look the same side.

And i don't know about anyone else but to me we looked shaky at the back with Distin in there, didn't look as solid as previous games without him in there. We looked at lot more assured at the back with either Duffy or Hibbo in there at CB!.

All that good work on Tuesday was thrown away today even if we did pick up a point!. Why can we never kick on from an high of a good result and battling performance like Tuesday and the high of signing some much needed players?!.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 04, 2012, 11:05:43 PM
Wonder if Moyes will be man enough to admit it was his fault, just like Mancini did
Doubt it. We were unlucky.


 :headbang: :headbang:
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Murder on February 04, 2012, 11:06:28 PM
And then in the 81st minute, with two on, we score. Bizarre. The Neville on for Cahill and Fellaini further forward scenario was quite demoralising as a fan.

The Neville substitute was disgusting.

Moyes' plan b seems to be to simply throw Fellaini upfront and hope for the best. Tactically inept today. Just a terrible performance from Moyes.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: TheRam on February 04, 2012, 11:06:58 PM
Wonder if Moyes will be man enough to admit it was his fault, just like Mancini did
Doubt it. We were unlucky.


 :headbang: :headbang:

To be fair Moyes is very honest in his post match interviews
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 04, 2012, 11:08:57 PM
To be fair Moyes is very honest in his post match interviews

enjoying your sarcasm
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Shogun on February 04, 2012, 11:09:15 PM
To be fair Moyes is very honest in his post match interviews
shame he doesn't try to fix it.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: efctaxi on February 04, 2012, 11:09:58 PM
ffs moysies stupid subs again  :headbang: neville must give one hell of a blowjob :whistle:

Why were they stupid?

Anichebe substitution was divine intervention, and Jelavic coming on expected. The only talking point was Neville, but there will be a reason for that I'm sure.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: C-R-A-I-G on February 04, 2012, 11:10:23 PM
I dont know how Phil Neville is still at our football club. He has been awful for the best part of 2 years and at 35 is very unlikely to turn that around. I think we need to get rid of him this summer or make him into a coach, I dont care as long as he is not playing in an Everton shirt again.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Trowel on February 04, 2012, 11:11:32 PM
Why were they stupid?

Anichebe substitution was divine intervention, and Jelavic coming on expected. The only talking point was Neville, but there will be a reason for that I'm sure.

Polaroid photos locked in Neville's safe perhaps.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on February 04, 2012, 11:12:04 PM
enjoying your sarcasm

I dont think he's being sarcastic. This season especially Moyes has been very honest when we play poorly.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: TheRam on February 04, 2012, 11:12:11 PM
Why were they stupid?

Anichebe substitution was divine intervention, and Jelavic coming on expected. The only talking point was Neville, but there will be a reason for that I'm sure.

Thats the thing with Moyes his subs are reactionary when we go a goal down, as opposed to taking the initiative.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: TheRam on February 04, 2012, 11:12:44 PM
I dont think he's being sarcastic. This season especially Moyes has been very honest when we play poorly.

This
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: nomorechang on February 04, 2012, 11:13:34 PM
What ? ....... oh , sorry , I thought I'd logged on to 'kipper .....
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Sir Stealth on February 04, 2012, 11:15:11 PM
missed opportunity today but I reckon we will beat Chelsea next week.  Fair play to Vic but I hope that he is kept as a super sub, never seems to start well.  Jelavic barely had a touch but think he will start next week.  Typical Bi-polar reaction from our fans to the City and Wigan games!
Title: Please?
Post by: Bily No Pace on February 04, 2012, 11:15:55 PM
What ? ....... oh , sorry , I thought I'd logged on to 'kipper .....

Would you?
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Murder on February 04, 2012, 11:19:36 PM
I dont think he's being sarcastic. This season especially Moyes has been very honest when we play poorly.

Apart from City at home, the team has been booed off Goodison nearly every time they've played there.

Still, you get Moyes' patented "You can't fault the lads for effort,"

I understand that he has to attempt to keep morale high but he has lied numerous times this season in his press conferences.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Confucius on February 04, 2012, 11:19:52 PM
Awful game. Points dropped. Totally Howards fault. One mistake a season he is allowed I guess. Conditions didn't help but we were lacking with the final ball again. Wigan played well tho and defended well
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Trowel on February 04, 2012, 11:20:46 PM
Everton boss David Moyes on his side's 1-1 draw at Wigan

"Our efforts in midweek told on us today, but after we went goal down we lifted it. It was a massive deflection off the pitch for their goal, but we never looked like we were going to concede and it was just whether we were going to do enough to score at the other end. Victor Anichebe came on and got the goal, and we needed all the players today. I thought Steven Pienaar was the best player on the pitch by a mile, he made us play better football and he has lifted the dressing room. You never know what you are getting back but he was superb."
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: gdog1981 on February 04, 2012, 11:21:21 PM
Settle down FFS wasn't that bad. Chelsea drew there recently. We had all the play really just a few moments of bad decision making cost us 3 points. Conditions crap, just had to grind a result of sort. Neville
Odd sub but tbh with the pitch so heavy had to get the tackles in. Maybe just
Me I seen quite a few positives Stevie p superb and him and barnes like old times. Fellini good too. I bet we beat Chelsea next week. Let's get
Behind team. 4pts in two games in wok not a bad return. But of prospective needed.
COYB
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: krakkokain on February 04, 2012, 11:22:35 PM
Everton boss David Moyes on his side's 1-1 draw at Wigan

"Our efforts in midweek told on us today, but after we went goal down we lifted it. It was a massive deflection off the pitch for their goal, but we never looked like we were going to concede and it was just whether we were going to do enough to score at the other end. Victor Anichebe came on and got the goal, and we needed all the players today. I thought Steven Pienaar was the best player on the pitch by a mile, he made us play better football and he has lifted the dressing room. You never know what you are getting back but he was superb."

lol
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: efctaxi on February 04, 2012, 11:25:22 PM
Thats the thing with Moyes his subs are reactionary when we go a goal down, as opposed to taking the initiative.

Moyes subbed Neville on after 46 minutes, suggesting something wasn't right with Cahill, and Jelavic after 60 minutes. Wigan scored on 75 minutes, so how are his subs reactionary? Anichebe came on in the 81st minute, and scored.

Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Polledreng on February 04, 2012, 11:25:46 PM
lol
  to what ?
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: bluegrant on February 04, 2012, 11:27:20 PM
Why were they stupid?

Anichebe substitution was divine intervention, and Jelavic coming on expected. The only talking point was Neville, but there will be a reason for that I'm sure.
soz i meant the neville sub. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Stumpy on February 04, 2012, 11:28:38 PM
The Neville-Cahill substitution was nothing short of a fucking disgrace,what the fuck is it with moyes and captain clubfoot?what a waste of a sub.Jesus christ words fail me.Neville offers absolutely nothing,yet with the game there for the taking,off comes Cahill(rightly),who goes on Jelevic? Anichebe? Drenthe? no fucking clubfoot does.Can someone just give me any reasoning or logic to that? How is he going to win us the game with his abysmal passing and distrabution and hopeful punts upfield.Another two points tossed away againsed by far the worst team in the league.Sometimes with moyes i feel like fucking throttling him.Rant over.
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Post by: Silas on February 04, 2012, 11:29:30 PM
Just a hangover from midweek, I can see why he brought on Neville but it didn't work.  You can't criticise that and not recognise his two attacking subs.  It's two points dropped but it could have been worse.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on February 04, 2012, 11:29:43 PM
My feeling is, I still love Moyes for everything good he has achieved; but not as much as he loves our Phil. I can't imagine why he thought putting him in the centre and pushing Fellaini up would be a good idea. On the plus side, the passing and moving in the first half, with Pienaar's guile and movement, was first class. I just felt that this game was crying out for replacing Cahill with Jelavic, and then getting Drenthe on for Gibson, and pushing Pienaar in to the centre. But then I am by no means a Premier League manager.
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Post by: TheRam on February 04, 2012, 11:31:25 PM
Just a hangover from midweek, I can see why he brought on Neville but it didn't work.  You can't criticise that and not recognise his two attacking subs.  It's two points dropped but it could have been worse.

Jelavic for Staq isnt particularly attacking, pretty much like for like. And he had no choice but to go attacking with his Vic sub as we were 1-0 down. How many times does Moyes make subs at 0-0 with the attacking intentions?
Title: Re: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Shogun on February 04, 2012, 11:33:04 PM
Just a hangover from midweek, I can see why he brought on Neville but it didn't work.  You can't criticise that and not recognise his two attacking subs.  It's two points dropped but it could have been worse.
You defend our players and manager so much it's ridiculous.
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Post by: Silas on February 04, 2012, 11:35:40 PM
You defend our players and manager so much it's ridiculous.

Think I was an Evertonian or something wouldn't you? Beats  a glass half empty, one hundred paracetamol by the side outlook.
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Post by: Shogun on February 04, 2012, 11:38:46 PM
Think I was an Evertonian or something wouldn't you? Beats  a glass half empty, one hundred paracetamol by the side outlook.
When they deserve it yes. When he deservedly fail to beat a side at the foot of the league then there's no excuse.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: bluegrant on February 04, 2012, 11:40:34 PM
Moyes subbed Neville on after 46 minutes, suggesting something wasn't right with Cahill, and Jelavic after 60 minutes. Wigan scored on 75 minutes, so how are his subs reactionary? Anichebe came on in the 81st minute, and scored.


i think the ram means by putting neville on we went backwards(in terms of attacking) instead of going for them attacking wise  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Sir Stealth on February 04, 2012, 11:44:04 PM
Think I was an Evertonian or something wouldn't you? Beats  a glass half empty, one hundred paracetamol by the side outlook.

Silas you are a top blue! :cheers: I think you have pretty much called it as it is.  Mammoth effort on tuesday and today was always going to be a lot tougher than people thought.  4 points from the 2 games is a decent haul really
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Post by: Shogun on February 04, 2012, 11:48:59 PM
Silas you are a top blue! :cheers: I think you have pretty much called it as it is.  Mammoth effort on tuesday and today was always going to be a lot tougher than people thought.  4 points from the 2 games is a decent haul really


So regardless of the result today it's okay because we beat City?
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: efctaxi on February 04, 2012, 11:50:17 PM
Wigan were dominating most of the play in the first half. Maybe he needed to strengthen a certain area. It must be tough when the outcome of our decisions isn't one place up the Fantasy Leaguye table lol.
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Post by: Silas on February 04, 2012, 11:51:00 PM
When they deserve it yes. When he deservedly fail to beat a side at the foot of the league then there's no excuse.

You can't just say we should have beat them and not examine why.  Nothing wrong at all with starting lineup so why didn't we score it cause more problems? Because the players were drained.  It's no coincidence our best player was Pienaar who came into the game fresh.
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Post by: Shogun on February 04, 2012, 11:53:59 PM
You can't just say we should have beat them and not examine why.  Nothing wrong at all with starting lineup so why didn't we score it cause more problems? Because the players were drained.  It's no coincidence our best player was Pienaar who came into the game fresh.

Did Wigan not play in midweek? chasing the ball around endlessly against one of the top 3 sides?

They must not have been tired.
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Post by: Sir Stealth on February 04, 2012, 11:58:29 PM

So regardless of the result today it's okay because we beat City?

No, but I don't all of a sudden think we are shit or anything.  Their goal was a fluke and a positive is that we still came back and got a point. I'm just a glass half full type of guy, so I'd rather focus on the positives and be there on saturday in full voice to help the team push on and beat Chelsea  :cheers:
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blueski on February 04, 2012, 11:59:53 PM
A tough outing in poor weather and with a bunch who looked absolutely spent.

I am giving Moyes the benefit of the doubt and assuming Cahill had a cold or picked up some type of knock in the 1st half; otherwise it looks an awful sub.

Embarrassing to concede like that poor by howard and neville but also incredibly unlucky. Jelavic looks like he needs some polishing but looks to be a real striker capable of doing some things for us
Title: Re: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Silas on February 05, 2012, 12:00:08 AM
Why because they played so well? Both teams struggled and a draw was about right.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: TheRam on February 05, 2012, 12:02:56 AM
I hate positive people.

Apart from Silas and Stealth  :-*
Title: Re: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Shogun on February 05, 2012, 12:03:58 AM
Why because they played so well? Both teams struggled and a draw was about right.
according to sky, spurs had 62% possession and 91% pass success rate against Wigan whereas city had 67% and a 84% pass success rate against us so it's not like either put in more of a shift than the other therefore fatigue shouldn't be an excuse.

A draw should never have happened, we have more quality than them by a long shot and should have won comfortably.
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Post by: Silas on February 05, 2012, 12:05:53 AM
according to sky, spurs had 62% possession and 91% pass success rate against Wigan whereas city had 67% and a 84% pass success rate against us so it's not like either put in more of a shift than the other therefore fatigue shouldn't be an excuse.

A draw should never have happened, we have more quality than them by a long shot and should have won comfortably.

If only football was exactly like Football Manager eh?
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Post by: Shogun on February 05, 2012, 12:08:38 AM
If only football was exactly like Football Manager eh?

So why didn't we beat Wigan today?
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Risky on February 05, 2012, 12:14:28 AM
A poor performance and a pretty poor result, but some ridiculous overreactions on here.
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Post by: Silas on February 05, 2012, 12:19:14 AM
So why didn't we beat Wigan today?

Main reason remains fatigue, your stats show possesion they don't say anything about pressing, tackling, interceptions or distance covered.  In short they mean nothing.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: pjk on February 05, 2012, 12:19:28 AM
A poor performance and a pretty poor result, but some ridiculous overreactions on here.


Absoloutly this. They all need to leave the steroids alone :bonk:
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Post by: Shogun on February 05, 2012, 12:30:06 AM
Main reason remains fatigue, your stats show possesion they don't say anything about pressing, tackling, interceptions or distance covered.  In short they mean nothing.

Why are we more tired than Wigan? they played a top team too?
considering they lost they should be more tired having to chase the game? no?

There can't have been that much of a gap between how much fatigue each side had that it outweighed the gap in quality between the sides.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: nomorechang on February 05, 2012, 12:42:01 AM
A tired performance in a game we had far more possession created more chances and conceded a freak goal ... shit happens
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Post by: Sir Stealth on February 05, 2012, 12:44:16 AM
Why are we more tired than Wigan? they played a top team too?
considering they lost they should be more tired having to chase the game? no?

There can't have been that much of a gap between how much fatigue each side had that it outweighed the gap in quality between the sides.

I'm not sure what you want to hear from him mate. Bad day at the office, at least we didn't get beat
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Shogun on February 05, 2012, 12:45:10 AM
I'm not sure what you want to hear from him mate. Bad day at the office, at least we didn't get beat
That the defeat wasn't down to fatigue.
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Post by: Silas on February 05, 2012, 12:45:42 AM
Why are we more tired than Wigan? they played a top team too?
considering they lost they should be more tired having to chase the game? no?

There can't have been that much of a gap between how much fatigue each side had that it outweighed the gap in quality between the sides.

Why can't there? Did you see how hard we worked to a man to beat city?
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Post by: Silas on February 05, 2012, 12:47:19 AM
That the defeat wasn't down to fatigue.

Solely no, a major contributor? Yes.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Murder on February 05, 2012, 12:52:00 AM
Do people realise this is a Wigan side that in their 7 games previous to playing us they had lost 6, conceded 20 goals, scored only 6 and accumulated one point?

That performance was fucking pathetic. Moyes was completely to blame.



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Post by: Shogun on February 05, 2012, 12:53:14 AM
Solely no, a major contributor? Yes.
Why weren't Wigan just as tied then? why doesn't their fatigue cut out ours?
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Post by: Silas on February 05, 2012, 12:54:39 AM
Why weren't Wigan just as tied then? why doesn't their fatigue cut out ours?

You have issues.
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Post by: Shogun on February 05, 2012, 12:58:06 AM
You have issues.
Because i cant fathom why our fatigue had more of an effect than theirs?
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Risky on February 05, 2012, 01:09:40 AM
Because i cant fathom why our fatigue had more of an effect than theirs?

Jesus, you're like an even worse version of Verminator before he got his act together.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 05, 2012, 01:12:07 AM
Because i cant fathom why our fatigue had more of an effect than theirs?

We worked our balls off to beat city, wigan didnt do a lot in midweek just watched spurs play around them

anyway poor performance as was expected typical everton

Easy to pick on the same people ie neville hibbert and now gibson but cahill and donovan i think were very poor
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Gash on February 05, 2012, 01:13:06 AM
Jesus, you're like an even worse version of Verminator before he got his act together.

 lolol

I was just think that as well.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Murder on February 05, 2012, 01:13:38 AM
Do people realise this is a Wigan side that in their 7 games previous to playing us they had lost 6, conceded 20 goals, scored only 6 and accumulated one point?

That performance was fucking pathetic. Moyes was completely to blame.

Just going to quote this because it seems nobody is taking it in. I can't fathom how people are defending Moyes or the team today.
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Post by: Sir Stealth on February 05, 2012, 01:15:21 AM
Because i cant fathom why our fatigue had more of an effect than theirs?

The fatigue had the same effect on both teams, it was a draw, though we created our goal, whereas they had to rely on a freakish bounce. So if anything we coped better than they did
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 05, 2012, 01:18:03 AM
Just going to quote this because it seems nobody is taking it in. I can't fathom how people are defending Moyes or the team today.

But if we are quoting "stats" a team that drew with chelsea and beat liverpool at home.......
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: sam of the south on February 05, 2012, 01:25:11 AM
Overall I thought we started well today, Pienaar calling the tune and the rest following; some nice passing triangles and quick movement off the ball. The turning point came when our second attacker was replaced with Neville, and our central midfield trojan, Fellaini was made to advance.If he had replaced like for like (i.e. Jelavic or Vic on for Cahill) I feel we would have had too much for them. Having said that their goal was a freak, and certainly wasn't something they deserved. As has been said, 4 points from these last couple of games is much unexpected. Bring on Chelsea I say. I just hope he plays Strac and a partner (not Fellaini); he really doesn't deserve to be dropped.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: pjk on February 05, 2012, 02:00:37 AM
Jesus, you're like an even worse version of Verminator before he got his act together.


Great observation.  The Verminator's got something useful  to say nearly every post.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: JoeHart on February 05, 2012, 02:14:09 AM
pienaar was a big plus today

gibson looked even worse, how long can the 'rusty' excuse hold out, felli had to cover for him again
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Post by: Shogun on February 05, 2012, 04:06:21 AM
The fatigue had the same effect on both teams, it was a draw, though we created our goal, whereas they had to rely on a freakish bounce. So if anything we coped better than they did
so fatigue isn't part of the main reason we drew?
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Post by: Sir Stealth on February 05, 2012, 04:26:29 AM
so fatigue isn't part of the main reason we drew?

I'm not sure exactly what you are trying to say or prove.  Fatigue had something to do with us not playing to our full potential.  Other factors that contributed to the game finishing as a draw were a flukey goal from Wigan, potentially a poor substitution or two from our manager, and an overall poor team performance.  There is no team in the league who you just need to turn up at and the result will be yours.  A lot of us expected a win today, me included but it just didn't happen.  It was disappointing but sometimes results don't go how you expect them to.  I'm sure Chelsea weren't happy with a draw away at Wigan, but that's what they got, and that's what we got too.  I'm not happy with the point but i can understand and accept that we only got a point today.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: bluestevie on February 05, 2012, 06:06:12 AM
poor result, but it was always going to be tough after the effort put in on tuesday. i see people moaning about the neville sub, as i understood it, from listening to city, cahill had picked up a knock in the first half so i can understand why he needed to make the change. that said i felt he could have left straq on and taken gibson off with the jelavic sub, still good to see pienaar slot straight back in with ease
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: blueski on February 05, 2012, 08:01:53 AM
thought if we had another 5 to 10 minutes we would have gotten the winner. this probably means jelavic and victor came on a bit too late
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: Jamokachi on February 05, 2012, 09:05:31 AM
That performance was fucking pathetic. Moyes was completely to blame.

Tired of the players getting off scott free. Yes Moyes fucked up, so did the players. They let him, and us down.
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: nomorechang on February 05, 2012, 01:22:33 PM


That performance was fucking pathetic. Moyes was completely to blame.





The players on the pitch were good enough to have won that game and without a complete freak of a goal we would have won .. our possession and chances created were better than Wigan's but they got a point ... it happens , it's football , strange results happen all the time ... We've just got to get on with it and the results will come , I fully expect us to  take points from the 4 games coming up vs Chelsea , Spurs , Utd and RS ... a few weeks ago most of us would have just written those games off .
Title: Re: Wigan Athletic v Everton
Post by: mickhazon on February 05, 2012, 04:17:50 PM
My take on the game was we was playing some lovely football in the first half, passing in triangles and players interchanging position.
At halftime there was only one team that was going to score apart from the odd shakey moment from distin we looked in control.
Sadly this all changed on the subbing of cahill for neville, the calm control and composed passing of felliani was taken away from the midfield and disjointed are game.
It was a mad sub by moyes, when the midfield was in control and bright, surely royston behide denis at that stage would of been a good choice, before two up top later in game with jelavic coming on and donovan or pienaar giving way.
On jelavic his moment looked bright and time will telling, a ranger fan on xbox live told me last night he was the best talent thats been in SPL for years and he will be a top striker for us.
One last thing he said WHY THE FUCK DIDNT BAINES let him take that freekick at end it was made for the right footer and i have seen him bang a few of them in from same position!