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Title: Everton v Sunderland 2-1
Post by: Shogun on November 04, 2012, 10:58:09 AM
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Everton v Sunderland
Goodison Park (Capacity: 40,157)
Saturday 10th November
15:00 UK time



Everton's last five games:

Everton 3-1 Southampton (Osman, Jelavic x2)
Wigan 2-2 Everton (Jelavic, Baines Pen)
QPR 1-1 Everton (Cesar OG)
Everton 2-2 Liverpool (Osman, Naismith)
Fulham 2-2 Everton (Fellaini x2)
Position: 4th - 17 points

Sunderland's last five games:

Manchester City 3-0 Sunderland
Sunderland 1-1 Newcastle (Ba OG)
Stoke 0-0 Sunderland
Sunderland 0-1 Middlesbrough - Capital One Cup
Sunderland 0-1 Aston Villa
Position: 16th - 9 points

Preview

The visit of Sunderland to Goodison Park on Saturday marks the 174th meeting between the two sides and the history book doesn't make good reading for the away side.

The last time Sunderland beat Everton was the 22nd December 2001 with Claudio Reyna netting the only goal that day. The last time Sunderland beat Everton at Goodison Park came on the 30th November 1996 when they ran out 3-1 winners as Duncan Ferguson cancelled out Craig Russell's second half opener before Michael Bridges scored a late brace for the away side.

This will be the 15th meeting between David Moyes and Martin O'Neill. Moyes has a poor record against the current Sunderland manager with just one win in the 11 league meetings between the two coming in the last fixture at Goodison Park which ended 4-0, the other matches resulted in 6 draws and 4 defeats. However, he has got the better over O'Neill in the Fa Cup with a 3-1 victory over Aston Villa in 2009 and victory in the quarter final replay last year at the Stadium of Light after a 1-1 draw in the original game.

Sunderland

Sunderland fans went into the season full of optimism as Martin O'Neill steered them in the right direction taking over from Steve Bruce in December 2011 taking them from relegation candidates to pushing for top ten, though they narrowly missed out by 2 points at the end of the season.

Over the summer the signings of Steven Fletcher for a fee of 14m and highly rated Adam Johnson for 10m only increased optimism going into the new campaign. Fletcher scored 5 goals in his first four games for Sunderland earning him player of the month for September, however no Sunderland player scored a single goal in October as Adam Johnson has struggled to impose himself in the North-East.

This season, Sunderland have managed just 13 shots on target in the league which is less than half of the next team up. Along with this they have scored just 9 goals in their last 16 matches leading to just one victory (1-0 Wigan H) in their last 16 games. On the defensive side of their game they have conceded 9 goals in 9 games, only Arsenal have conceded less goals in the league.

Their last outing ended in an 1-0 defeat at home to another struggling  outfit in Aston Villa. Sunderland managed just one shot on target as Agbonlahor scored the only goal in a rather dull affair.

Everton

"Judge us after ten games" is what David Moyes said when asked whether Everton had made a good start to the season. Ten games gone and Everton have won four, drawn five and lost one after ten games and are currently sitting 4th in the table. A series of successive draws against Wigan, QPR, Liverpool and Fulham has slightly dampened spirits on the blue half of Merseyside but having gone behind in all of those games, Everton have shown character to gather 4 points with 3 of the games away from home. However if optimism is to continue, getting back to winning ways against Sunderland is vital.

Everton suffered a disappointing blow on Saturday as Sidwell grabbed a 90th minute equaliser in a match dominated by the away side. Stats show that Everton had 61% of possession compared to Fulham's 39%. Everton created 15 shots on target from 26 shots compared to Fulham who gathered 5 shots on target from a total of 8 shots. There were a lot of positives to take from the game as there won't be many teams who dominate as much at Craven Cottage this season which reflects the quality of the team. Still, a disappointing draw felt like a defeat after such a display and a sensational second half display from Marouane Fellaini who took his tally to 5 goals with two goals.

Everton have scored the fourth most goals this season with 19 in 10 games. However defensively Everton have been poor conceding 13 goals and conceding 2 goals a match 5 times already this season.



There have been 173 meetings between the two in the past. Below is a table of the match history:

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Injury concerns
http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php (http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php)

Everton

V Anichebe - Illness - no return date   
D Gibson - Thigh Muscle Strain - no return date

Sunderland

W Brown - Knee Injury - no return date   
T Bramble - Hip/Thigh Injury - no return date

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Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Mahoney on November 04, 2012, 12:31:08 PM
Must win? (Too much of Cliche?)

Honestly though, got to score more than they do. Simples.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Gary Iceman on November 04, 2012, 01:56:26 PM
4-0..
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: School of Science on November 04, 2012, 02:15:17 PM
After four draws reckon now this is a must win if we have any top 4 asperations and score first for a change.Fulham had 3 shots on target and scored 2 an all too familiar stat for us this year,no wonder Jol was happy,our luck has got to change soon.
Title: Re: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 04, 2012, 02:34:09 PM
I think we will win but it won't be a drubbing that no doubt many will predict

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Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: sharpattack on November 04, 2012, 02:45:16 PM
If we fail to beat this lot well, then the season will have truly fizzled out
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on November 04, 2012, 05:06:55 PM
2-0 Everton.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 04, 2012, 05:14:12 PM
If we fail to beat this lot well, then the season will have truly fizzled out

Agreed,  Not sure its worth us continuing if we only draw this and slump to about 6th. theres no way we can claw back a 2 point defecit with the top 4 in the following 27 games
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blob on November 04, 2012, 05:42:25 PM
Agreed,  Not sure its worth us continuing if we only draw this and slump to about 6th. theres no way we can claw back a 2 point defecit with the top 4 in the following 27 games

 :snigger:
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blargins on November 04, 2012, 06:49:40 PM
Basically, keep Fletcher quiet all game and we'll at least come away with a 0-0 :)
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Cozzie on November 04, 2012, 07:09:15 PM
We had more shots on target apparently in the game against Fulham than sunderland have had all season.

They have only had one goalscorer this season, fletcher, their second highest scorer is Demba Ba with the OG

We have a superb record against them at home, if we draw this I will fucking kill myself.

6-0 to us, lets put a team to the sword for once, just go out and absolutely fucking murder them.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Stumpy on November 04, 2012, 07:44:08 PM
It's a good time to be playing Sunderland,they look shot to pieces at the moment.Someone's due for a hammering of us,and it could be them.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: cantoffee on November 04, 2012, 07:53:23 PM
We always batter Sunderland.

Put the kids out and let them run riot. It's about time George Green got some time in the prem.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: sharpattack on November 04, 2012, 08:11:15 PM
Agreed,  Not sure its worth us continuing if we only draw this and slump to about 6th. theres no way we can claw back a 2 point defecit with the top 4 in the following 27 games
Agreed,  Not sure its worth us continuing if we only draw this and slump to about 6th. theres no way we can claw back a 2 point defecit with the top 4 in the following 27 games
You obviously have no understanding of the concept of a "trend". Any team that fails to win in 5 games against the likes of Wigan, Qpr, Fulham and Sunderland cannot be considered as a potential Champions league team.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 04, 2012, 08:16:50 PM
Howard

Hibbert  Jags  Heitinga   Baines

Mirallas   Osman  Neville  Pienaar

Fellaini

Jelavic

Obviously Gibson comes in for Neville if he's fit but don't think he will be and wouldn't be distraught if Coleman started but think we need more options from the bench and Coleman with Naismith gives us that.

Expect us to win but then I have done last four games so...
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Thom on November 04, 2012, 08:49:42 PM
I think it's dangerous for people to presume we will batter them. All's it will take is for them to get an early goal against us, as per the last five matches, and it'll be another slog to turn the match around. Theoretically we should beat them, but we should have beaten Newcastle, QPR and Fulham.

That said, I am expecting us to win, even though I don't think it'll be by the ridiculous scorelines that people are already predicting.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Derek on November 05, 2012, 12:30:49 AM
Reckon we will win comfortably. Will save hopes of another 7-1 until we're 4-0 up! :)
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Trowel on November 05, 2012, 12:41:46 AM
Reckon we will win comfortably. Will save hopes of another 7-1 until we're 4-0 up! :)
I was coming in here to predict 7-1. They are properly shite.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Cozzie on November 05, 2012, 01:15:51 AM
I genuinely think this could be the arse whooping we have been due to dish out to a team for a while.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Shogun on November 05, 2012, 06:23:51 AM
When do yellow cards get wiped so it's ten yellow cards for suspension?

Neville has 4 yellow cards going into this match.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Confucius on November 05, 2012, 06:26:31 AM
As does Felli.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Shogun on November 05, 2012, 06:32:15 AM
As does Felli.
I thought that but everywhere seems to say he has three when I look now.

EDIT: 3 in the league and one in the league cup. I assume league cup must count.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Mahoney on November 05, 2012, 09:04:53 AM
I thought that but everywhere seems to say he has three when I look now.

EDIT: 3 in the league and one in the league cup. I assume league cup must count.

Pretty sure the so called 'amnesty' for yellows is the 31st December (or there abouts). Therefore according to the Guardian's website on PL stats we have Neville on 4, Fellaini on 3 and Pienaar on 3 all of which we have to assume will miss a match because of picking up 5 yellow cards before the new year.

As for Fellaini... I'm not 100% sure if his League cup yellow counts towards his totals, but from the 'Googling' that I've done, it looks as though it will.

Therefore Fellaini is on 4 in total.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: dlock78 on November 05, 2012, 04:32:38 PM
We need to win this one big time. The only trouble with this is that we are expected to win. We all know what Everton are like when we are expected to do something!

Would love to see us batter them, but can't see it. They will come to defend, pack the midfield and hope to frustrate.

best thing that we can do is reverse the trend of the past few games. Actually score early for once!! Yes i know, it's radical thinking. but if we could just not concede inside the first 15 mins, maybe we can go on and have a comfortable 90mins for once.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: MRB85 on November 05, 2012, 09:09:44 PM
This has all the ingredients -- Everton on a long unbeaten home run, Sunderland 16 years without a win at GP, Sunderland unable to hit a barn door from 3 yards (or even get to within 3 yards it appears), everyone forecasting a big win for us............

The fact is that however bad Sunderland seem to be playing, Martin O'Neill will not be giving it up and he'll make sure they are very difficult to score against.  If we have genuinely turned a corner and are now genuinely a side to reckon with then we'll win it.  If we're the same old Everton, being taken on yet another roller coaster ride of unexpected wins and deflating defeats, then we won't.  This is a key game that could shape the rest of our season.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 05, 2012, 09:19:21 PM
Sunderland have conceded less than us this season!9 in 9. They have more of a problem scoring themselves than keeping them out. If we do beat them I will be surprised if its by more than 2 goals. Mignolet is a very good keeper. Still expect us to win though
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: cantoffee on November 05, 2012, 09:30:12 PM
I don`t think teams can be as successful parking the bus when they play us anymore.

With Fellaini`s ability to bring the ball down in the final third it means that we more options and ways to attack teams. We aren`t moving the ball from side-to-side waiting for an opening, we can get the ball upfield quickly and the way Pienaar and Mirallas are able to play off Fellaini means that we can pull their defence all over the place.

I don`t think we`ll be able to keep a clean sheet, we just don`t look like doing it at the moment. But does anyone look like stopping us from scoring? No way.

This should be a win, but in all truth it will probably be a bit tougher than most are expecting.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: DannyR on November 05, 2012, 10:21:59 PM
Lee Mason is the ref
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on November 05, 2012, 10:22:50 PM
due to batter someone aren't we?

5-0

jela 2
mirallas
fellaini
jags
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: nomorechang on November 05, 2012, 10:56:12 PM
Lee Mason is the ref

Just seen that. He wasn't too bad in the Chelsea v Utd cup game last week but he's always been crap in our games.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: GLewis on November 05, 2012, 10:58:10 PM
I don`t think teams can be as successful parking the bus when they play us anymore.

With Fellaini`s ability to bring the ball down in the final third it means that we more options and ways to attack teams. We aren`t moving the ball from side-to-side waiting for an opening, we can get the ball upfield quickly and the way Pienaar and Mirallas are able to play off Fellaini means that we can pull their defence all over the place.

I don`t think we`ll be able to keep a clean sheet, we just don`t look like doing it at the moment. But does anyone look like stopping us from scoring? No way.

This should be a win, but in all truth it will probably be a bit tougher than most are expecting.

This.

Plus they'll have seen losing to Villa as an embarrassment. Teams often react by playing a lot better than their recent form after such a result.

If we can get on top then their low confidence could make them crumble; however I can tell that our crowd will be grumbling if we're not 2-0 after 20 mins which brings its own problems.

Also not many teams will create the amount of chances we did at Fulham week after week. It's a few games since we did it at Swansea (to that level at least) so it's overly optimistic to think that we're bound to do it against a side that doesn't concede many.

As you say, I can see this being tight so I'd take a solid victory with a clean sheet now if offered.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Alanvideo on November 05, 2012, 11:21:06 PM
I'm sorry to say The Scottish Rooney won't be playing as he pulled a hamstring in training. This means he is likely to be injured for the entire length of his new short-term contract with the Mackems........but could be available to be signed by David Moyes for the 3rd time in the January window. Watch this space. :bonk:
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on November 06, 2012, 12:10:20 AM
It's all about the first goal. If we can get it for once, their confidence will sink. If we hand them one on a plate like we have so many other sides they'll try to cling on and make it an uphill slog for the rest of the game.

Hopefully Jelavic brings his scoring boots for this one.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 06, 2012, 01:09:36 AM
Just seen on MNF that Sunderland have only had 12 shots on target ALL SEASON!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Ross on November 06, 2012, 01:23:36 AM
Just seen on MNF that Sunderland have only had 12 shots on target ALL SEASON!

Heard that as well, but we all know how charitable we are to teams who are on a bad run
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: TheRam on November 06, 2012, 06:49:07 AM
Will defo kill myself if we dont win this one
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on November 06, 2012, 01:51:42 PM

Will defo kill myself if we dont win this one

Well it's win-win for the rest of us then Ramster
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: GoodisonPk on November 06, 2012, 02:41:09 PM
Had a look on their boards - what a depressing read for them not one person thinks they can win - NOT ONE!!!.....hopefully it comes true but we all know when we expect the 3 points ....
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: jonesey10 on November 06, 2012, 06:27:19 PM
We are due to give someone an absolute twatting.
It's gonna be this weekend against Sunderland.
5 or 6 nil.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on November 06, 2012, 06:49:31 PM
We are due to give someone an absolute twatting.
It's gonna be this weekend against Sunderland.
5 or 6 nil.

Haven't they only conceded 9 goals? Their defence is pretty solid, but they have trouble scoring. I think this will be a bit like playing Stoke and I'll be happy with a win of any sort, hopefully though by a couple of goals to allow for us switching off late in the game.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: sharpattack on November 06, 2012, 06:50:26 PM
Will defo kill myself if we dont win this one
Well it's win-win for the rest of us then Ramster
PMSL
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: dlock78 on November 06, 2012, 09:13:37 PM
This has all the markings of an Everton special. Concede after 10 mins, dominate the rest of the game, score late on to nick a point.

But we ARE due to batter someone, and I would be more than happy for that to be a team managed by Martin O'neill.

Does that nasty little thug Cattermole still get a game for them? If so, can easily see him trying to do a number on Mirallas/Pienaar/Osman, or all of them!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: GLewis on November 06, 2012, 10:15:45 PM
Haven't they only conceded 9 goals? Their defence is pretty solid, but they have trouble scoring. I think this will be a bit like playing Stoke and I'll be happy with a win of any sort, hopefully though by a couple of goals to allow for us switching off late in the game.

This.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: cantoffee on November 06, 2012, 10:57:33 PM
I`d put significant money on Cattermole injuring one of our players.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Derek on November 06, 2012, 11:18:00 PM
and on him being a twat more generally.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Sprooly on November 08, 2012, 04:38:48 PM
ive never seen a fanbase so pessimistic about there chances vs us, most of them think we are gonna belt them!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: steve81 on November 09, 2012, 05:23:26 PM
i hope we dont underestimate them like we do sometimes against struggling sides
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: American Evertonian on November 09, 2012, 06:00:54 PM
Here's hoping Gibbo is fit enough to make the bench. Hoping Davey has good news about him today at the presser.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Ross on November 09, 2012, 06:13:33 PM
Here's hoping Gibbo is fit enough to make the bench. Hoping Davey has good news about him today at the presser.

He's only just started light training in the last couple of days I doubt he will make the bench given how unpredictable this injury has been.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: EFCdanger on November 09, 2012, 08:00:58 PM
Hibbert out with re-occurrence of calf injury, Victor still out. Gibson getting there but not back for tomorrow.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Big Doug on November 09, 2012, 09:15:38 PM
cmon Moyes NO SURRENDER Big Boyn need you to win me some fuckin cash oh yes babey
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Shogun on November 09, 2012, 09:22:31 PM
-----------------------------Howard---------------------
------Coleman----Jagielka-------Heitinga----Baines---
--------------------Neville-------Osman-----------------
----------Mirallas---------Fellaini----------Pienaar------
---------------------------Jelavic-------------------------

Bench: Mucha, Distin, Oviedo, Hitzelsperger, Gueye, Naismith, Duffy

Team sort of picks itself here except for Distin/Heitinga.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: TheRam on November 09, 2012, 09:23:37 PM
Just fucking stick with a centre back partnership Moyes FFS
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Cash on November 09, 2012, 09:50:56 PM
Just fucking stick with a centre back partnership Moyes FFS

I dont know why but I have a thing against Jagielka hes very overrated on here and by moyes.. Have Distin and Johnny started a game together this season?
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 09, 2012, 09:57:31 PM
I dont know why but I have a thing against Jagielka hes very overrated on here and by moyes.. Have Distin and Johnny started a game together this season?

Jagielka has played every game I think
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 09, 2012, 09:58:34 PM
I dont know why but I have a thing against Jagielka hes very overrated on here and by moyes.. Have Distin and Johnny started a game together this season?

Leeds in the cup
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 09, 2012, 10:00:49 PM
Leeds in the cup

Ahhh damn you Stealth, I had erased that game from my memory, getting horrifc flash backs no........... JUNIOR Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooo
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 09, 2012, 10:05:49 PM
Ahhh damn you Stealth, I had erased that game from my memory, getting horrifc flash backs no........... JUNIOR Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooo

horrific wasnt it!I wonder when Junior will get his next chance
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: GLewis on November 09, 2012, 10:24:15 PM
Think Distin will be in to counter Fletcher's height.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 09, 2012, 10:25:17 PM
horrific wasnt it!I wonder when Junior will get his next chance

Not for a while reckon his confidence would have took a beating

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Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Cash on November 09, 2012, 10:26:29 PM
Would like to see Distin - Johnny Partnership soon
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: GLewis on November 09, 2012, 11:29:10 PM
Would like to see Distin - Johnny Partnership soon

They do have a good record when they've played together. How much of that is due to coincidence of us hitting form generally at that time is impossible to tell.

However ignoring that there's no reason, when looking at form, for a) Hetinga to justify a guaranteed spot or b) Jags not to play.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Cash on November 10, 2012, 01:26:27 AM
They do have a good record when they've played together. How much of that is due to coincidence of us hitting form generally at that time is impossible to tell.

However ignoring that there's no reason, when looking at form, for a) Hetinga to justify a guaranteed spot or b) Jags not to play.

Il wager that if Moyes keeps dropping Distin for Heitinga and vice versa that Jagielka could do with being dropped. We haven't exactly been water tight at the back and Jagielka player every premier league game.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: nomorechang on November 10, 2012, 01:59:58 AM
Thanks to the great people at EDSA I'm going tomorrow .. In 11 games this season, after Sunderland, I'll have been to only 2 , must be the least since I was 9 years old ...
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: TheRam on November 10, 2012, 03:14:13 AM
I dont know why but I have a thing against Jagielka hes very overrated on here and by moyes.. Have Distin and Johnny started a game together this season?

Disagree, Jags is our best CB imo

Heitinga is the over-rated one. He does need to fucking stick with a partnership tho, hopefully Distin/Jags
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 03:16:09 AM
Disagree, Jags is our best CB imo

Heitinga is the over-rated one. He does need to fucking stick with a partnership tho, hopefully Distin/Jags

Even if Jags isn't he is the only one showing any sort of form, you can't drop him over either Distin or Heitinga right now.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: nomorechang on November 10, 2012, 05:11:32 AM
A few people on twitter are congratulating Matty Kennedy for being involved with the 1st team tomorrow .. Interesting ?
Title: Re: RE: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 05:15:47 AM
Hope the lads made the bench then, be good experience

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Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Shogun on November 10, 2012, 09:02:16 AM
Everton have hit the woodwork most this season (11) whilst Sunderland are yet to hit the woodwork.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 10, 2012, 01:29:38 PM
A few people on twitter are congratulating Matty Kennedy for being involved with the 1st team tomorrow .. Interesting ?

He is getting rave reviews for the reserves

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Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: GLewis on November 10, 2012, 01:51:18 PM
He could have pushed ahead of Gueye and Vellios in the pecking order?

We only had Naismith as an attacking sub against Fulham.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 10, 2012, 02:03:20 PM
He could have pushed ahead of Gueye and Vellios in the pecking order?

We only had Naismith as an attacking sub against Fulham.

Wouldnt be surprised if he has pushed ahead of gueye... We need a cf on the bench tho if Jelavic got injured we would have no recognised cf

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Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: GLewis on November 10, 2012, 02:19:21 PM
Wouldnt be surprised if he has pushed ahead of gueye... We need a cf on the bench tho if Jelavic got injured we would have no recognised cf

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I think he'd just stick Mirallas or Naismith ahead of Felli.

I'd probably rather do that than Vellios to be fair, especially if it were for any serious amount of time.

Title: Re: Re: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 10, 2012, 02:22:27 PM
I think he'd just stick Mirallas or Naismith ahead of Felli.

I'd probably rather do that than Vellios to be fair, especially if it were for any serious amount of time.

Yeah mirallas with fellaini would be ok although i much prefer mirallas facing the goal than back to it (only briefly seen him as a cf mind) anyway lets hope Jelavic doesn't get injured and bags a few goals to give him a boost ;D

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Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Derek on November 10, 2012, 04:30:09 PM
Very confident today.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Confucius on November 10, 2012, 04:36:31 PM
Loving Shogun's Sig.

Not Sure about today. I am always confident but Everton have a tendency to let me down. Want to have a happy weekend
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: New Free Transfer Signing on November 10, 2012, 06:39:42 PM
Kennedy is in the team, just seen his shirt in the dressing room on football focus, which is live from GP. Am I ITK now?
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 10, 2012, 06:41:13 PM
Kennedy is in the team, just seen his shirt in the dressing room on football focus, which is live from GP. Am I ITK now?

well in the squad!doubt he will be in the team
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Azz on November 10, 2012, 07:03:20 PM
Thomas Hitzlsperger starting today. 
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Verm on November 10, 2012, 07:04:31 PM
Thomas Hitzlsperger starting today. 

How do you know?
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blueski on November 10, 2012, 07:05:47 PM
Thomas Hitzlsperger starting today. 
Interesting if true
Title: Re: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Jimmywhack on November 10, 2012, 07:16:19 PM
Instead of Neville?

Sent via carrier pigeon
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 10, 2012, 07:24:38 PM
People do know that the shirts hanging up in the changing room are of the whole squad not just the starting 11 dont they?
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Danny on November 10, 2012, 07:27:08 PM
Neville RB to counter McClean?
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Shogun on November 10, 2012, 07:28:48 PM
Neville RB to counter McClean?
McCleans woeful.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Danny on November 10, 2012, 07:34:28 PM
McCleans woeful.

Yeah but he takes people on so Moyes might be worried about him catching Coleman out again.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 07:38:08 PM
Moyes was very non-comittal in how well Seamus was doing on footy focus but he did make a big deal about him getting a run in the side so be surprised if he doesn't start.  Would think Neville will be on bench if Hitzelsperger is on.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Shogun on November 10, 2012, 07:40:47 PM
Jurgen Klinsman is at the game today. Can we sign him?
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Verm on November 10, 2012, 07:45:45 PM
People do know that the shirts hanging up in the changing room are of the whole squad not just the starting 11 dont they?

Which is why I asked how he knew.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 10, 2012, 08:06:37 PM
howard coleman baines heitinga jags nev  mirallas pienaar osman felli jelavic
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: sharpattack on November 10, 2012, 08:06:40 PM
Bad News. I feel confident. That's us fucked then
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Alex6691 on November 10, 2012, 08:06:49 PM
Everton team to face Sunderland: Howard, Coleman, Baines, Heitinga, Jagielka, Mirallas, Pienaar, Osman, Neville, Fellaini, Jelavic
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 08:07:31 PM
Usual team with Gibbo still out, good enough for me and remain confident.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2012, 08:08:25 PM
We should twat these, which means we'll draw 2-2.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: TheRam on November 10, 2012, 08:08:47 PM
Bench?
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Alex6691 on November 10, 2012, 08:10:51 PM
Bench?



Everton subs: Mucha, Oviedo, Naismith, Distin, Hitzlsperger, Gueye, Vellios
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Shogun on November 10, 2012, 08:11:52 PM
no Kennedy then?

Perhaps he's the 19th man.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 10, 2012, 08:13:49 PM
no Kennedy then?

Perhaps he's the 19th man.

haha actually a boss trick by moyes.  O'Neill  has fully prepared his side to face kennedy.  Was that Hitzlsperger shout from new free transfer signing based on football focus?
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Shogun on November 10, 2012, 08:14:52 PM
Sunderland XI vs #Everton Mignolet, Gardner, Rose, Cuellar, O'Shea , Larsson, Colback, McClean, Johnson, Sessegnon, Fletcher.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 08:14:56 PM
Kennedy's waiting to see if someone falls ill Vic style...
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: TheRam on November 10, 2012, 08:16:40 PM
If we play like we have been all season we will twat these useless cunts
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Shogun on November 10, 2012, 08:18:00 PM
Cattermole has been their best player (says a lot) so without him they really don't have any sort of 'bite' in midfield.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Shogun on November 10, 2012, 08:19:45 PM
Saha and McFadden on the bench.

Thankfully not for us.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 10, 2012, 08:19:51 PM
If we play like we have been all season we will concede early and draw

fixed!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: TheRam on November 10, 2012, 08:20:08 PM
Cattermole has been their best player (says a lot) so without him they really don't have any sort of 'bite' in midfield.

Jesus

That when you know your fucking grim

If only we were still on that site to gloat about how right we were about MON
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: TheRam on November 10, 2012, 08:20:39 PM
fixed!

They have to have a shot on target first
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Shogun on November 10, 2012, 08:21:14 PM
Jesus

That when you know your fucking grim

If only we were still on that site to gloat about how right we were about MON
3rd best manager in the league.

I think Cattermole is an okay player to be fair. he just misses half the season through suspension.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 08:21:28 PM
Tempted to worry a bit because we are all so friggin cocky today.  As long as our wingers and fullbacks push theirs back we should kill them but if they get any joy it's not a given we will destroy them.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 10, 2012, 08:23:20 PM
Tempted to worry a bit because we are all so friggin cocky today.  As long as our wingers and fullbacks push theirs back we should kill them but if they get any joy it's not a given we will destroy them.

Ive decided that if we win today we will qualify for the champs league. If not then we will just get europa.  you dont get champs league with 5 draws on the bounce all against shit teams!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: hannu on November 10, 2012, 08:25:45 PM
would love to see hitz get on the pitch today

ive always rated him highly and i hope that he can come into the squad and do well and secure a longer contract


corrected a mistake
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: charlatan on November 10, 2012, 08:30:19 PM
We need to be at it from the start, not give our usual 1st 5 minute goal away while we're asleep.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: hannu on November 10, 2012, 08:32:32 PM
We need to be at it from the start, not give our usual 1st 5 minute goal away while we're asleep.

or last minute goal
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2012, 08:33:30 PM
Or any minute!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Thom on November 10, 2012, 08:37:36 PM
Cattermole has been their best player (says a lot) so without him they really don't have any sort of 'bite' in midfield.

He won't be snapping around Fellaini's heels either and riling him up. Should allow him to play his game and get a goal or two for us.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2012, 08:43:01 PM
Hope this game brings about a bit of form for Jelavic too. Maybe 4 goals to break his barren spell would be nice.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: fast lane on November 10, 2012, 08:45:52 PM
He won't be snapping around Fellaini's heels either and riling him up. Should allow him to play his game and get a goal or two for us.

Yep, like what happened against Wigan.

Should be able to get the three points today, and possibly a nice easy win.
We certainly deserve it, taking last week and the toon games into consideration.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: hannu on November 10, 2012, 08:46:09 PM
Hope this game brings about a bit of form for Jelavic too. Maybe 4 goals to break his barren spell would be nice.

i think jela's bad form has been because of fellani playing up there with him

but the way fellani has been playing you cant not play him there
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2012, 08:50:55 PM
I think you're right, I prefer Fellaini deeper with a more skillful am up with Jelavic. Fellaini controls the game better when in the centre I think.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Thornton_19 on November 10, 2012, 08:58:26 PM
The American on Fox Soccer just said 'Everton coming out to Z Cars, it's not Metallica but it works for them.' It made me laugh at how dismissive it was
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Confucius on November 10, 2012, 08:58:45 PM
I am worried about Ossie. An England call up might mean an injury today.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Alex6691 on November 10, 2012, 09:01:52 PM
Isn't Lee Mason a decent ref?
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: keverton1971 on November 10, 2012, 09:02:25 PM
sopcast 6816 perfect stream :-)
Title: Re: RE: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 09:05:24 PM
Come on jelavic, should have had a shot away. 

Sent from the land of the wools
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2012, 09:05:59 PM
Jeez almost 0-1.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 10, 2012, 09:06:06 PM
Coleman is not a good right back.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: minty on November 10, 2012, 09:07:05 PM
Coleman is not a good right back.

at least he tracked the center midfielder running through- why the hell did neither of the center backs?
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Azz on November 10, 2012, 09:07:11 PM
Was told by a mate that was with Football Focus today that Nev had been swapped out for Hitzlsperger.  Would have liked to be to true, never mind. 


Great start, apart from the passed two minutes.   

Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: MmmblueBernard on November 10, 2012, 09:09:18 PM
Colemans been found wanting twice.
Title: Re: RE: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 09:09:23 PM
Ffs Neville

Sent from the land of the wools
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blob on November 10, 2012, 09:09:40 PM
fucking neville. sloppy again
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Everton Mint on November 10, 2012, 09:09:48 PM
'Tache on Ossie  lolol
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Azz on November 10, 2012, 09:09:55 PM
It's going to be a long 82 minutes!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Leslie Chow on November 10, 2012, 09:10:06 PM
Phil Neville trying his best for a 7 min assist hopeless twat!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Cantoffie on November 10, 2012, 09:11:10 PM
Just because Fella is back in the line up does not mean we have to play 90 mins of long balls. Ffs.

Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: steve81 on November 10, 2012, 09:12:15 PM
usual poor start coyb
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2012, 09:12:22 PM
We always seem to struggle against O'Neill.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Java Blue on November 10, 2012, 09:13:27 PM
Coleman is not a good right back.
Could have told you that when he joined... RW  not RB
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Azz on November 10, 2012, 09:14:01 PM
Marry me Mirallas! 
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 09:14:38 PM
Look a lot better when we limit the long ball.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: MmmblueBernard on November 10, 2012, 09:15:48 PM
Im hoping for an asshatfull of goals today
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 10, 2012, 09:16:01 PM
Could have told you that when he joined... RW  not RB

Well Ive always thought it, but never wanted to say because he may have developed, given more consistent gametime.

Your right though, he is a winger, not a defender.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 09:18:33 PM
Beautiful football but would like to see some crosses going in as well
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 10, 2012, 09:18:58 PM
15 mins without conceding!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Azz on November 10, 2012, 09:21:28 PM
This is very strange, against Fulham Moyes sat in the chair and didn't play the conductor much, today though he's properly at it again, telling where to put passes, telling players where to go etc.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Outworlder47 on November 10, 2012, 09:23:22 PM
Looks like Neville at RB, Coleman RW, with Pienaar drifting inside.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Cantoffie on November 10, 2012, 09:26:41 PM
We have got to start trying to play through jelavic on the ground.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Everton Mint on November 10, 2012, 09:27:33 PM
Whatever you do if using YES don't disconnect at half time. Sopcast have blocked it now.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 09:29:50 PM
Fuck Mirallas injured
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Azz on November 10, 2012, 09:29:55 PM
Mirallas going off injured!  For fuck sake!  Naismith coming on!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 09:31:23 PM
Come on naismith lad
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on November 10, 2012, 09:32:24 PM
Looked like a hamstring for Mirallas. Dang, he could be out for a while. :(
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Azz on November 10, 2012, 09:33:34 PM
I can see Mason being a cunt today.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on November 10, 2012, 09:34:29 PM
Great by Coleman, he needs to step up now Mirallas went off.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 10, 2012, 09:35:59 PM
Unlucky Jelavic.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: minty on November 10, 2012, 09:39:03 PM
i suppose the way we were carved up through the middle again was coleman's fault there  :P
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Everton Mint on November 10, 2012, 09:39:07 PM
This is ominous again - cant score when we are on top.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Danny on November 10, 2012, 09:40:41 PM
Bossing it but Sunderland are having the better chances.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blob on November 10, 2012, 09:42:56 PM
so frustrating. sunderland having the better chances.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 09:43:15 PM
A lot of our passing is just behind our players again.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Azz on November 10, 2012, 09:44:08 PM
Rasping 35 yard drive from Nev there!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Alex6691 on November 10, 2012, 09:46:08 PM
Why is Fellaini so inconsistent. Frustrating.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Azz on November 10, 2012, 09:46:13 PM
WBA beating Wigan 0-2 now.  We have to beat these today!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on November 10, 2012, 09:46:49 PM
Players seem to be just strolling around. They don't look arsed at the moment. Moyes needs to give them a rocket at HT.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blob on November 10, 2012, 09:47:13 PM
ffs 0-1
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Danny on November 10, 2012, 09:47:24 PM
Pienaar hasn't been the same since he lost the braids  :(
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on November 10, 2012, 09:47:43 PM
Awful.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Azz on November 10, 2012, 09:47:57 PM
And there it is.  Not surprised in the fucking slightest!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 09:48:03 PM
Ffs that's us all over at the moment
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Thornton_19 on November 10, 2012, 09:48:18 PM
Another game another goal conceded.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: steve81 on November 10, 2012, 09:48:27 PM
deserved that shit as always in this half
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2012, 09:48:28 PM
Ridiculous.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: buededw1 on November 10, 2012, 09:48:44 PM
FUCK SAKE!!!! Fellaini walking around like he dont give a shit,steven p having another bad game.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: gemine69 on November 10, 2012, 09:48:45 PM
Oh for fucks sake.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Everton Mint on November 10, 2012, 09:48:53 PM
This is ominous again - cant score when we are on top.

Punished again like last week. Ridiculous.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Shogun on November 10, 2012, 09:49:15 PM
Frustrating.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: evertonarntwe on November 10, 2012, 09:49:32 PM
steven naismith is worse than fucking gary why we signed that cunt i dont know, all come from him loosing the balll like every other basted time hes got it, fucking awfull awfull player.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Cantoffie on November 10, 2012, 09:49:33 PM
We fell asleep in the last ten minutes of that half.

Naismith needs to be told to settle down, playing way to frantically, ad to directly for my liking.

Time to grind out another draw!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 10, 2012, 09:50:00 PM
Bollox
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: steve81 on November 10, 2012, 09:50:12 PM
always concede against shit teams that dont usually score fuck off everton
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: dunkster on November 10, 2012, 09:50:13 PM
naismith is championship material absolubtely crap. as soon as mirallas goes off as he did against liverpool we look completely clueless
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: minty on November 10, 2012, 09:50:41 PM
So little pace in the team. Still hating the osman/neville combo in cm and heitinga at the back.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: TheRam on November 10, 2012, 09:50:52 PM
Its like we need to go a goal behind to start playing these days

Also Im saying this in the hope he will prove me wrong, but Naismith is fucking shite
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Leslie Chow on November 10, 2012, 09:51:02 PM
Well done osman. Showing why you have taken so long to get a call up. Cos you are shite.

Neville the most talentless player to grace the shirt. Retire you shit head.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Everton Mint on November 10, 2012, 09:51:15 PM
Time for a change - give Vellios a chance.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on November 10, 2012, 09:51:15 PM
The sight of Fellaini and Pienaar at the end of the half was awful, no effort at all.

We've conceded the first goal again, and now we're going to have to work very hard to even get back into this.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: dunkster on November 10, 2012, 09:51:55 PM
want to hope hodgeson wastn watching osman when they scored.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: steve81 on November 10, 2012, 09:52:15 PM
can we give rangers naismith back one of the worst players to grace the shirt
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Danny on November 10, 2012, 09:52:27 PM
Pienaar has been by far our worst player, Naismith has come on and been ineffective but Pienaar has just been crap.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Shogun on November 10, 2012, 09:52:34 PM
O'Neills team camp outside their box at 0-0 nevermind when they're winning. it's going to be difficult to turn this around.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: TheRam on November 10, 2012, 09:52:49 PM
want to hope hodgeson wastn watching osman when they scored.

Been our best player
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on November 10, 2012, 09:53:06 PM
I think Naismith is not going to please a lot of people as he is usually coming on for Mirallas and failing to live up to his standard.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Gash on November 10, 2012, 09:53:17 PM
Unbelievable. We gave them three goes before the goal so the warning signs were there. So much possesion yet so little clear cut chances in the end.

We've played some nice stuff as well but lacking the killer finish. Hopefully Mirallas isn't to serious, he looked like he pulled up fairly quickly and wasn't at full sprint so hopefully it's a tweak rather than a tear.

Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 09:53:40 PM
Trying to pass it into the goal isn't work, need to put them under more pressure.  Too much sloppy passing generally.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Thom on November 10, 2012, 09:53:44 PM
Very poor goal to concede right at the end.

Sunderland are doing well to neutralize our attacking threat too, and it'll be even worse in the second half in that respect. I still expect us to score though, and once we do I reckon we'll go on to win this. All's it will take is for their confidence to take a knock from conceding and we'll get the three points hopefully
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: scoop on November 10, 2012, 09:53:50 PM
Naismith  off
Vellios on


neville to right back
coleman right mid

4-4-2

simples...
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: steve81 on November 10, 2012, 09:54:32 PM
its like deja vu early last season again no cutting edge
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Danny on November 10, 2012, 09:54:56 PM
Naismith  off
Vellios on


neville to right back
coleman right mid

4-4-2

simples...

442 sucks
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Derek on November 10, 2012, 09:55:06 PM
Thought it was a bit of a boring watch, to be honest. I think we dominated possession, but it was uninspired for the most part. A few nice moves, but once Mirallas went off, we didn't create all that much. Not sure about the team, or the tactics just now.

Sunderland have looked more likely to take a chance than we have, and that's exactly what they've done. It won't be an easy game to get back into.

Only positives for me thus far are that Sunderland really aren't very good and Jelavic does look up for it.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 09:56:38 PM
Very poor goal to concede right at the end.

Sunderland are doing well to neutralize our attacking threat too, and it'll be even worse in the second half in that respect. I still expect us to score though, and once we do I reckon we'll go on to win this. All's it will take is for their confidence to take a knock from conceding and we'll get the three points hopefully

An early goal is important, I reckon Moyes is destroying them in the changies.  Jelavic is looking better today but we aren't getting the right balls in.  Room on the flanks but not getting any crosses in. 
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: minty on November 10, 2012, 09:57:12 PM
Thought it was a bit of a boring watch, to be honest. I think we dominated possession, but it was uninspired for the most part. A few nice moves, but once Mirallas went off, we didn't create all that much. Not sure about the team, or the tactics just now.

Sunderland have looked more likely to take a chance than we have, and that's exactly what they've done. It won't be an easy game to get back into.

Only positives for me thus far are that Sunderland really aren't very good and Jelavic does look up for it.

I think jelavic had enough half chances to have scored 1 or 2 if in last season's form.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: TheRam on November 10, 2012, 09:57:40 PM
Would give Hitz an Oviedo a game if it stays like this.

Osman really does the job of two men in there, about 3 times he challenged for the ball and was back trying to win the second ball cos Neville was so off the play
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: buededw1 on November 10, 2012, 09:58:18 PM
Well done osman. Showing why you have taken so long to get a call up. Cos you are shite.

Neville the most talentless player to grace the shirt. Retire you shit head.

well said!!!bar the pat about osman, i dont rate him but his having a good game today
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 09:58:50 PM
Would be tempted to push Naismith up and bring Hibbo on so Coleman can go right wing.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: dunkster on November 10, 2012, 10:00:13 PM
osman hasnt been to bad but that ball watching school boy mistake wont give his england chances a great boost.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Always a Toffeeman on November 10, 2012, 10:01:08 PM
really is a lot of pricks here, give over and support your team, oh [insert name here] is shit, wise up, osman made one mistake for the goal, we have still played well and he has been at the heart of it, pienaar hasnt been that bad and fell hasnt been given service, and naismiths only got here give him time, hes done fuck all wrong, wise up and give the team some time, i bet wont be the same come full time if we win
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 10, 2012, 10:01:42 PM
We need to get more ruthless.big half in our season coming up
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Azz on November 10, 2012, 10:02:37 PM
Would give Hitz an Oviedo a game if it stays like this.



Speaking of Oviedo, looks like he's actually a £5m back up to Baines?
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2012, 10:03:55 PM
Anybody's sopcast stream die?
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: minty on November 10, 2012, 10:05:28 PM
Would give Hitz an Oviedo a game if it stays like this.

Osman really does the job of two men in there, about 3 times he challenged for the ball and was back trying to win the second ball cos Neville was so off the play

We really need a proper holding midfielder- I would be tempted even to play jagielka there until we sign someone who can do the job in january.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Blue Lagoon on November 10, 2012, 10:07:59 PM
Ram:
You got the noose ready?
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Azz on November 10, 2012, 10:08:40 PM
Heitinga header cleared off the line by Johnson on the post. 
Title: Re: RE: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 10:09:46 PM
Heitingas been dirty today!

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Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2012, 10:13:04 PM
Heitinga could have had a hattrick!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on November 10, 2012, 10:13:16 PM
Opta tweets: "Adam Johnson's goal was the first by a Sunderland player (excluding own goals) in 444 minutes of Premier League football."

Why do we like to be the team where other teams get to break their bad streaks?
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Craig_1878 on November 10, 2012, 10:13:30 PM
Needs to hit the target there. Really need the big players to step up here, just not doing enough.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2012, 10:14:46 PM
We are looking clueless. :(
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: IUToffee on November 10, 2012, 10:15:30 PM
Naismith really is poor
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Evertonexile on November 10, 2012, 10:15:37 PM
Heitinga needs to calm down. That challenge wasn't much, but the ref's got his name now.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: TheRam on November 10, 2012, 10:15:51 PM
Heitinga needs to fuck off

Bring Naismith off for Oviedo
Title: Re: RE: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 10:16:16 PM
Its looking like a bad day at the office here, we look worse this half.

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Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Bob Sacamano on November 10, 2012, 10:16:29 PM
Naismith looking horrendously off the pace today.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: steve81 on November 10, 2012, 10:17:09 PM
Naismith looking horrendously off the pace today.
he looks it every time he plays mate
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: cantoffee on November 10, 2012, 10:17:30 PM
Lacking directness here, Fellaini is not at the races today, and in general our passing has been lazy and sloppy.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: buededw1 on November 10, 2012, 10:18:04 PM
is it just me or does Naismith fall over nearly every time he chases after the ball or when passing it
Title: Re: RE: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 10:18:07 PM
If you bring naismith off now you might as well sell him, it would destroy what little confidence he has

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Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Azz on November 10, 2012, 10:18:12 PM
When has Naismith ever looked on pace?!  He's shite.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: sharpattack on November 10, 2012, 10:18:41 PM
What an abysmal performance. In many ways its worse than the West brom game
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on November 10, 2012, 10:19:16 PM
I think our only hope here is keeping Pienaar with Baines and hoping they can create something.

Severely lacking imagination here though.
Title: Re: RE: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: evertonarntwe on November 10, 2012, 10:19:40 PM
If you bring naismith off now you might as well sell him, it would destroy what little confidence he has

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If he stays on im going to smash my laptop int pieces he is fucking shite
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: steve81 on November 10, 2012, 10:19:58 PM
i think it proves we arent good enough to be in top 6
Title: Re: RE: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 10:20:40 PM
If he stays on im going to smash my laptop int pieces he is fucking shite

I know which I find preferable



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Title: Re: RE: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: TheRam on November 10, 2012, 10:21:47 PM
If you bring naismith off now you might as well sell him, it would destroy what little confidence he has

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He's a passenger at best out there.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2012, 10:21:53 PM
Not a happy day today.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on November 10, 2012, 10:22:02 PM
Lee Mason isn't giving much here. Hopefully he'll give us a big decision to make up for it like a penalty...?
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Cantoffie on November 10, 2012, 10:22:11 PM
I think Fellaini was a bit of a surprise in the early stages of the season, and now we have been figured out.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Cantoffie on November 10, 2012, 10:23:11 PM
Also why does Jellavic even bother to make runs? We haven't played the ball down the middle for him once this entire game.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: cantoffee on November 10, 2012, 10:23:22 PM
If there is anything about Howard to criticise it's his abysmal kicking.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 10, 2012, 10:23:31 PM
Come on blues gotta find a way through these
Title: Re: RE: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 10:23:41 PM
Jelavic shouldn't be the one crossing the ball ever

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Title: Re: RE: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 10:25:08 PM
Sad that there is no one on the bench to make a big difference

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Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2012, 10:25:12 PM
Jesus we can't even score against this dire Sunderland team.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Everton Mint on November 10, 2012, 10:25:20 PM
Fellaini this world-class player is doing nothing this week.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Ridge on November 10, 2012, 10:25:56 PM
Sad that there is no one on the bench to make a big difference

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Worth giving Kennedy a chance?
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: gemine69 on November 10, 2012, 10:26:15 PM
If we get one, I can see us winning this.  Just need to get one first though.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Azz on November 10, 2012, 10:26:31 PM
I did say Lee Mason would be a cunt today.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blob on November 10, 2012, 10:26:37 PM
look really out of touch today, but it's not over yet.
Title: Re: RE: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 10:26:37 PM
Getting absolutely fuck all from the ref today

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Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 10, 2012, 10:27:01 PM
Sunderland defending amazingly well here making it so hard for us to get through. Would love the option of vic to come on now!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: minty on November 10, 2012, 10:27:45 PM
i think it proves we arent good enough to be in top 6

With this lineup we are mid table at best. With gibson and fellani in centre midfield and Mirallas or osman behind jelavic I think we could challenge.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: cantoffee on November 10, 2012, 10:27:53 PM
We need to start driving this ball into the box first time.
Title: Re: RE: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 10:27:56 PM
Worth giving Kennedy a chance?

Got to be better than gueye as an option.



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Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2012, 10:28:05 PM
Wish we had Saha coming on for us...
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 10, 2012, 10:28:22 PM
I picked a bad week to give up smoking...

(http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2329/fctu.jpg)
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Ramjam on November 10, 2012, 10:28:55 PM
We are a fuckin pub team. Top 6 my ass no chance. The rs will be above us by Xmas
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Amata on November 10, 2012, 10:29:02 PM
We need to stop launching long balls up as we are not winning anything.
Title: Re: RE: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 10:29:54 PM
We are a fuckin pub team. Top 6 my ass no chance. The rs will be above us by Xmas

Tit

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Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2012, 10:30:04 PM
I picked a bad week to give up smoking...

(http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2329/fctu.jpg)

Thanks for making me laugh for the first time today :)
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Azz on November 10, 2012, 10:30:15 PM
Vellios coming on.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Everton Mint on November 10, 2012, 10:31:59 PM
About time, deserves his chance.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 10, 2012, 10:32:37 PM
Grow the hair back, Pienaar, you've lost summat since the locks went.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: steve81 on November 10, 2012, 10:32:44 PM
presume that felli is back in midfield
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Azz on November 10, 2012, 10:33:12 PM
Not gonna happen today. 
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blob on November 10, 2012, 10:34:00 PM
fucking get in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: cantoffee on November 10, 2012, 10:34:17 PM
Fucking right! Go on lads! Time for a win!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Cantoffie on November 10, 2012, 10:34:18 PM
Get in!!!
He has never looked like scoring.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2012, 10:34:19 PM
Grow the hair back, Pienaar, you've lost summat since the locks went.

I agree, he's a shadow at the moment.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on November 10, 2012, 10:34:24 PM
COYB. Boy we needed that.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: steve81 on November 10, 2012, 10:34:45 PM
yessssssssssssssssssssss
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: gemine69 on November 10, 2012, 10:34:50 PM
Fair play, great goal!
Title: Re: RE: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 10:34:56 PM
Thank fuck for that! He's been shit but he's scored again

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Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Azz on November 10, 2012, 10:35:10 PM
Like I said not gonna happen... lolol lolol
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 10, 2012, 10:35:16 PM
Come on lads, another 2 and that will be 2x 100% Prediction leagues in a row.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Alex6691 on November 10, 2012, 10:35:26 PM
FuCKING GET IN!!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Craig_1878 on November 10, 2012, 10:35:31 PM
YEEESS.

Superb finish, let's get all three now!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: sharpattack on November 10, 2012, 10:35:33 PM
At last
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Everton Mint on November 10, 2012, 10:35:38 PM
Knew criticising Felli would mean he'd do something !!! Yesss !!!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: minty on November 10, 2012, 10:35:46 PM
4-4-2 is a shit formation  ::)
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: cantoffee on November 10, 2012, 10:36:01 PM
Fellaini I want to fuck you so bad.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on November 10, 2012, 10:36:09 PM
Wow! Get in!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2012, 10:36:14 PM
Come on!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Amata on November 10, 2012, 10:36:25 PM
Thats more like it!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blob on November 10, 2012, 10:36:43 PM
2-1 Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooo o!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Danny on November 10, 2012, 10:36:43 PM
Unreal
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on November 10, 2012, 10:36:44 PM
Two dummies from O'Shea.

Great touch by Fellaini.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: gemine69 on November 10, 2012, 10:36:52 PM
I've just come!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Azz on November 10, 2012, 10:36:58 PM
Fucking finally!  That was stunning!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Thornton_19 on November 10, 2012, 10:37:08 PM
One more Everton Daddy would like to win his bets!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: steve81 on November 10, 2012, 10:37:16 PM
please lads keep it tight at the back and score again
Title: Re: RE: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 10:37:18 PM
The lad fucking deserved that today, fellaini for the second game performing when he wants!

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Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Danny on November 10, 2012, 10:37:29 PM
odd that fellaini did it from a deeper position aswell.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2012, 10:37:32 PM
Fucking hell! lol
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 10, 2012, 10:37:36 PM
Just one more lads. One more.

Pleased for Jelavic there, got the feeling he was getting frustrated with his, and his teams play. Deserves a goal more than any other player.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: keiko on November 10, 2012, 10:37:44 PM
people never give up  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

do not write off our best players!! (felli, jelavic)
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Craig_1878 on November 10, 2012, 10:37:50 PM
AHHHHH

Said the big players to step up and they finally have. Get in!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Azz on November 10, 2012, 10:38:22 PM
We need another now though, don't want a Fulham repeat!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2012, 10:38:40 PM
One more please lads. We can't draw again!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Amata on November 10, 2012, 10:38:41 PM
Both goals come from playing it on the floor.  We need to keep playing football
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: keiko on November 10, 2012, 10:39:01 PM
this does mean top 6 is possible now? ......... less doom, everyone,,,
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blob on November 10, 2012, 10:39:07 PM
told you it wasn't too late, you miserable fuckers :)
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Alex6691 on November 10, 2012, 10:39:14 PM
This is what the top teams do.. grind out results against shit teams. Will be chuffed if we win. Just worried bout Mirallas injury. Wanted to see him live when I go watch them play against Norwich on my birthday.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Everton Mint on November 10, 2012, 10:39:24 PM
What a turnaround since Vellios came on !  nod
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2012, 10:39:31 PM
Remember this is O'neill we're up against, that bastard always is spawny against us.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Amata on November 10, 2012, 10:39:44 PM
Woeful defending yet again, lucky there.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Sres on November 10, 2012, 10:39:47 PM
lucky escape there ,blocked by own player...
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 10:40:42 PM
Amazing considering how shite we have been second half.  Naismith come into the game a little bit more which is good.  Coleman looks great going forward, REALLY wish he was a great defender too.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Craig_1878 on November 10, 2012, 10:41:02 PM
Squeeky bum time now.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2012, 10:42:14 PM
So happy Jelavic has scored.

Considering he's having a quieter season than last, he's still on 5 goals.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 10, 2012, 10:42:23 PM
Just 1 more....

(http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/4278/tumblrmbyw0vm4ro1qgtxlr.jpg)
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: minty on November 10, 2012, 10:42:47 PM
lucky escape there ,blocked by own player...

Lools like howard had it covered- was awful defending though.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Sres on November 10, 2012, 10:42:56 PM
Defending like school children...
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Azz on November 10, 2012, 10:43:02 PM
Hitzslsperger coming on!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blob on November 10, 2012, 10:43:20 PM
hitz coming on......
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Alex6691 on November 10, 2012, 10:43:27 PM
Hitzlesperger.. can't wait to see him in action.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 10:43:42 PM
Good decision to bring on a midfielder. 
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: steve81 on November 10, 2012, 10:43:57 PM
hammer time
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: gemine69 on November 10, 2012, 10:44:41 PM
Let's see 'Der Hammer' blast one in from 30 yards now.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 10:46:35 PM
People slagging Naismith off is fair enough but surprised more hasn't been said of how poor Pienaar has been today.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Cash on November 10, 2012, 10:47:20 PM
People slagging Naismith off is fair enough but surprised more hasn't been said of how poor Pienaar has been today.

Wtf happened to Super Kev been in work all day
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 10, 2012, 10:47:38 PM
People slagging Naismith off is fair enough but surprised more hasn't been said of how poor Pienaar has been today.

He has been poor for quite some time. Disappointment of the season so far for me, one of his bigger fans.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Sres on November 10, 2012, 10:48:25 PM
5mins injury?
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 10, 2012, 10:48:43 PM
Wtf happened to Super Kev been in work all day

He got hamstring pull, had to go off.

Cock
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blob on November 10, 2012, 10:48:46 PM
5 fucking minutes?!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 10:48:52 PM
Wtf happened to Super Kev been in work all day

Pulled up poss hamstring
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Everton Mint on November 10, 2012, 10:49:01 PM
Match Stats
Everton - Sunderland

Possession
62% - 38%

Shots
15 - 6

On target
10 - 4

Corners
6 - 2
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: gemine69 on November 10, 2012, 10:49:05 PM
Where the fuck has 5 mins injury time come from
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2012, 10:49:15 PM
Where did 5 minutes come from?
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 10, 2012, 10:50:49 PM
The ref had 3-1 in the prediction league
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: minty on November 10, 2012, 10:51:55 PM
People slagging Naismith off is fair enough but surprised more hasn't been said of how poor Pienaar has been today.

Why not slag baines off as well then- he's got into good positions with no end product and been caught out defensively a couple times too.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Sres on November 10, 2012, 10:52:20 PM
haha our free kick lid...
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 10, 2012, 10:52:21 PM
Has Vaughns cranium got even bigger in the last 12 months?
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Sres on November 10, 2012, 10:53:01 PM
game over, good result
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on November 10, 2012, 10:53:17 PM
How did we win that? And how was that our free kick?!? Mason helped us at the end there.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blob on November 10, 2012, 10:53:17 PM
all over. win. phew :)
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 10:53:43 PM
That's the way to shut a game out.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 10, 2012, 10:53:51 PM
Lol @ that free kick at the end. uMAD oNeill?
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: gemine69 on November 10, 2012, 10:53:56 PM
3 points, finally!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: IUToffee on November 10, 2012, 10:54:04 PM
Good work Agent Arteta!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Trowel on November 10, 2012, 10:54:32 PM
Another classic NSNO match day thread...
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on November 10, 2012, 10:54:36 PM
Just 1 more....

(http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/4278/tumblrmbyw0vm4ro1qgtxlr.jpg)

:) Summed up the game today.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2012, 10:54:41 PM
Wow, am happy now. That was a shit stream, a shit game, but a fantastic result!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: charlatan on November 10, 2012, 10:55:14 PM
Bloody lucky today.  Extremely poor today, but previous seasons we would have lost that.

Onwards and upwards, and here's hoping super kev isn't too bad
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Thornton_19 on November 10, 2012, 10:55:20 PM
Thank God, you can't win em all playing pretty football. Let's hope Mirrallas' injury isn't that bad, let's go to reading and stuff them.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Thom on November 10, 2012, 10:55:27 PM
Called it. :smug:

Deserved win depsite us playing much of the second half more worse than we were in the first half.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: dunkster on November 10, 2012, 10:55:41 PM
i never want to see hibbert or neville at right back with coleman on the bench.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Danny on November 10, 2012, 10:55:42 PM
Glad that we won but i've still got that weird pissed off feeling asif we lost haha
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: TheRam on November 10, 2012, 10:56:00 PM
Naismith produced one of the worst performances Ive ever seen today

Other players were shit of course, but he was something else

We won tho :)
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Trowel on November 10, 2012, 10:56:03 PM
And Arteta missed a last gasp pen to give us breathing room :-)
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Evertonexile on November 10, 2012, 10:56:11 PM
Good game. Should have played better for the first 70 minutes, but great comeback.






A little bit sympathetic for Sunderland tbh, don't think they would've won, but Lee Mason pulled that call out of his arse.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: sharpattack on November 10, 2012, 10:56:14 PM
Wow, am happy now. That was a shit stream, a shit game, but a fantastic result!
this
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: TheRam on November 10, 2012, 10:56:35 PM
And Arteta missed a last gasp pen to give us breathing room :-)

What about West Brom?
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Everton Mint on November 10, 2012, 10:57:06 PM
Justice for being robbed last week. Funny old game.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on November 10, 2012, 10:57:19 PM
Hitzlesperger played a nice ball at the end there. Didn't really see much of him to rate either which way. Nice flick from Vellios too, although he too didn't really get in the game.

Again it was Fellaini who turned the game. Not many other positives, Coleman did better as the game went on but it just wasn't right after Mirallas got injured.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blob on November 10, 2012, 10:57:36 PM
What about West Brom?

they won.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 10, 2012, 10:57:46 PM
play badly and win?sign of a good team!bit of class from Felli there after some muppets started to doubt him!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2012, 10:57:49 PM
Glad that we won but i've still got that weird pissed off feeling asif we lost haha

I know what you mean. My stream was pretty shit, I couldn't see the ball go in for Fellaini's goal, so my reactions were delayed, and then my stream jumped to catch up two minutes as they showed a replay of Jelavic's goal. So there was little satisfaction if you know what I mean.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Gash on November 10, 2012, 10:58:08 PM
Decent result in the end, looked pretty grim with 20 minutes to go. Grinding out a result when we really needed to.

Hopefully Mirallas isn't to bad. Pienaar's form is a slight concern at the moment, I wonder if he's carrying a slight injury, hasn't been himself for two or three games now?
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: TheRam on November 10, 2012, 10:58:32 PM
they won.

No breathing space then, their level on points with us
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: griff969 on November 10, 2012, 10:59:01 PM
Great three points from possibly the worst league performance of the season (yes worse than West Brom). Take that all day long, two moments of class from Felli that we really needed.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: minty on November 10, 2012, 10:59:30 PM
Hitzlesperger played a nice ball at the end there. Didn't really see much of him to rate either which way. Nice flick from Vellios too, although he too didn't really get in the game.

Again it was Fellaini who turned the game. Not many other positives, Coleman did better as the game went on but it just wasn't right after Mirallas got injured.

Osman was good other than the goal. Hopefully Moyes will have seen how much better we were with fellani alongside osman and neville off the pitch.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Nicco on November 10, 2012, 10:59:33 PM
Fellaini this world-class player is doing nothing this week.
Like to change that statement by now?  ;)

Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Loverboy Blue on November 10, 2012, 11:01:15 PM
I thought Pienaar was disappointing again today. He looks completely out of form to me . A total mixed bag for Felli - awesome at times and uninterested at others.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Shogun on November 10, 2012, 11:01:16 PM
shows how good Fellaini actually is, his finishing has been fantastic this season.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Evertonexile on November 10, 2012, 11:02:06 PM
I know what you mean. My stream was pretty shit, I couldn't see the ball go in for Fellaini's goal, so my reactions were delayed, and then my stream jumped to catch up two minutes as they showed a replay of Jelavic's goal. So there was little satisfaction if you know what I mean.

You are living in America, right?


Put in a little money and pay for Fox Soccer Channel. They had it live on tele in HD.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: TheRam on November 10, 2012, 11:02:50 PM
Felliani is world class end off, probably ran the most miles as he usually does. Disinterested my ass
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Cash on November 10, 2012, 11:03:30 PM
Like to change that statement by now?  ;)



Never watched the game (bar last 10). But by the reviews Im getting we sucked alot of cock today. Naismith & Pienaar. Very worrying. We don't look like a solid team anymore, very touch and go with all the draws....
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: cantoffee on November 10, 2012, 11:05:52 PM
Felliani is world class end off, probably ran the most miles as he usually does. Disinterested my ass

Agreed.

I thought he was off-form most of the day but when people critisize a player's body language it really is silly. Same thing happens with Anichebe yet both of them work hard and cover a lot of ground.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Sir Stealth on November 10, 2012, 11:06:08 PM
Playing poorly and winning is a lot more fun than playing well and drawing!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2012, 11:07:18 PM
You are living in America, right?


Put in a little money and pay for Fox Soccer Channel. They had it live on tele in HD.
Bugger. But they rarely have us on it anyway when I did have it. First half stream was great though, then sopcast went offline.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: dunkster on November 10, 2012, 11:07:47 PM
wonder if pienaar's off field antics are interfering with his game.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: keiko on November 10, 2012, 11:08:16 PM
Great three points from possibly the worst league performance of the season (yes worse than West Brom). Take that all day long, two moments of class from Felli that we really needed.

felli did not have his best game, but he was good and like you say, his class won the game in the end. he is world class. people should never write him off, especially during a game,

 sunderland defended well but he beat them in the end. people like making big statements though, negative ones!! i'm just glad jelevic scored cos people were sharpening the knife again for him also.

i mean, felli scored two last week and people were saying teams have figured out how to control him before he scored today. bloody hell!!  lolol

COYB
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: cantoffee on November 10, 2012, 11:09:41 PM
felli did not have his best game, but he was good and like you say, his class won the game in the end. he is world class. people should never write him off, especially during a game,

 sunderland defended well but he beat them in the end. people like making big statements though, negative ones!! i'm just glad jelevic scored cos people were sharpening the knife again for him also.

i mean, felli scored two last week and people were saying teams have figured out how to control him before he scored today. bloody hell!!  lolol

COYB

Keiko laying it down again. Well done.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blargins on November 10, 2012, 11:09:44 PM
That game was David Moyes' 400th for us!
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on November 10, 2012, 11:11:08 PM
Felliani is world class end off, probably ran the most miles as he usually does. Disinterested my ass

Eh. I don't think it's unfair to criticize Fellaini as his performances can swing wildly at times. It was the same as last week, he started to improve after HT although he wasn't nearly as ineffective as last week in the first half.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Ramjam on November 10, 2012, 11:11:48 PM
When Gibson comes back you will see the standards rise to another level, it's been a difficult couple of months without his guidance in the middle of the park
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Confucius on November 10, 2012, 11:12:24 PM
Another classic NSNO match day thread...

Always love reading through the thread at half time and then again at the end.
Title: Re: RE: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 11:13:28 PM
Think we need to give moyesy credit here to. Made the right subs which definitely helped the result. 



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Title: Re: RE: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Silas on November 10, 2012, 11:14:14 PM
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Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: keiko on November 10, 2012, 11:14:58 PM
Keiko laying it down again. Well done.

lol, but i dont understand why people do that

but, i am  happy any way  ;D
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Shogun on November 10, 2012, 11:15:05 PM
so 11/15 points in home games. 9/18 points in away games..
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Fynci on November 10, 2012, 11:16:58 PM
i never want to see hibbert or neville at right back with coleman on the bench.

Coleman is actually turning into a right back too. The defensive side of his game is improving the more game time he is getting. I think Hibbert is our best right back, but you can hardly drop Coleman when he keeps performing like this. I thought he was one of our better players today, and not just for what he did in the attacking third of the field.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: cantoffee on November 10, 2012, 11:21:11 PM
Coleman is actually turning into a right back too. The defensive side of his game is improving the more game time he is getting. I think Hibbert is our best right back, but you can hardly drop Coleman when he keeps performing like this. I thought he was one of our better players today, and not just for what he did in the attacking third of the field.

Yea, I thought he was caught out early a couple times with players running inside across his body but he will get better and better.

Going forward he is great though, and you can see he's better than last year cause he can beat his man from a standing position.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: American Evertonian on November 10, 2012, 11:37:17 PM
so 11/15 points in home games. 9/18 points in away games..

Not too shabby. That may just be the day drunk talking since I have to work overnight tonight and need help getting some Z's....

Overall I was not thrilled with our lack of bite in the final third but I'll take a win any time we can get it.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Derek on November 10, 2012, 11:42:35 PM
Coleman really is coming along nicely. He's a good example of a player that needed time to grow into his position. He was a steal at 60K too.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Danny on November 10, 2012, 11:54:33 PM
so 11/15 points in home games. 9/18 points in away games..

Am I right in thinking we lost to Stoke 1-0 in our 11th game last season so we now have double the points we did at this point last year?
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: minty on November 11, 2012, 12:18:38 AM
Felliani is world class end off, probably ran the most miles as he usually does. Disinterested my ass

I bet he didn't and hasn't since moving to att mid. Would imagine neville, osman, coleman, baines all covered more than him.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: sharpattack on November 11, 2012, 12:22:33 AM
Positives today were Coleman's performance and Jelavic's goal. Hopefully that's the end of his "slump". The biggest negative was the loss of Mirallas. I was hoping that Gibson would slot in next week to join Mirallas and Pienaar. One step forward, two steps back
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blueToffee on November 11, 2012, 12:33:28 AM
Positives today were Coleman's performance and Jelavic's goal. Hopefully that's the end of his "slump". The biggest negative was the loss of Mirallas. I was hoping that Gibson would slot in next week to join Mirallas and Pienaar. One step forward, two steps back

I'd agree. Also Fellaini finding a way through (again) was also a positive.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 11, 2012, 01:04:54 AM
Positives today were Coleman's performance and Jelavic's goal. Hopefully that's the end of his "slump". The biggest negative was the loss of Mirallas. I was hoping that Gibson would slot in next week to join Mirallas and Pienaar. One step forward, two steps back

While Coleman keeps getting ripped a new one at right back I find your first comment hard to take from someone who constantly berates Hibbert.

Unless you think a right back's primary role is cutting through opponents on the edge of their box?
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: nomorechang on November 11, 2012, 02:35:37 AM
Must admit with 15-20 mins to go I thought Sunderland would hold on .. Fortunately Felli decided enough is enough and with a couple of bits of inspiration turned the game on its head
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Everton Mint on November 11, 2012, 03:16:57 AM
Fellaini got us something when we were running out of ideas but his overall performance wasnt great.

Not a patch on some of his displays but that bit of quality can make the difference in a tight game.

Its hard to tell its teams sussing him out or us not making the best use of him, but we need his best more regularly.

He's still the main man though.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: blueski on November 11, 2012, 04:31:43 AM
While Coleman keeps getting ripped a new one at right back I find your first comment hard to take from someone who constantly berates Hibbert.

Unless you think a right back's primary role is cutting through opponents on the edge of their box?
think when Gibson returns we will be more organised at the back to support having 2 attacking backs;

Coleman did some good work forward & should have used him more IMO. He was fortunate to not be punished for that early mistake
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Shogun on November 11, 2012, 05:23:17 AM
Am I right in thinking we lost to Stoke 1-0 in our 11th game last season so we now have double the points we did at this point last year?
Nope, 2-1 win against Wolves at home. Think we got a pen that day and Jagielka scored?

Stoke was our 13th game.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: TheRam on November 11, 2012, 05:50:03 AM
Coleman in now way got "ripped a new one"
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: NomadskiEFC on November 11, 2012, 07:12:32 AM
Coleman in now way got "ripped a new one"

The first ten minutes he certainly did.

Even the Sunderland fans on their board were saying he was our weak link.
Title: Re: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Bally on November 11, 2012, 02:39:43 PM
How... In the screaming blue fuck did Danny Rose not get a free kick at the end, fucking joke of a decision after what was essentially a decent performance from the ref
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: fast lane on November 11, 2012, 03:50:59 PM
How... In the screaming blue fuck did Danny Rose not get a free kick at the end, fucking joke of a decision after what was essentially a decent performance from the ref

It was ridiculous, plus he got a yellow too...

We didn't start too brightly, but at least this time we got the points!
Although it wasn't looking that way at one stage, but fortunately two good quick goals got us out of jail.
Title: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Derek on November 11, 2012, 04:33:43 PM
Felt sorry for him. It was definitely a free-kick to Sunderland. Still, I am glad they didn't have a chance to ping a ball into the box at that stage!
Title: Re: Re: Everton v Sunderland
Post by: Ross on November 11, 2012, 04:34:34 PM
How... In the screaming blue fuck did Danny Rose not get a free kick at the end, fucking joke of a decision after what was essentially a decent performance from the ref

Baffling decision, but I thought the ref was poor all game for both sides.