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Title: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: BrotherEstapol on April 24, 2013, 08:36:58 PM
Figured since rumours are starting to come about it was time for a thread?

Post anything you've heard in here since I know this is the mod's preferred method over individual threads for a player or a new sub forum.

There's the usuals of Baines to Man Utd and Fellani to Chelski doing the rounds again, but I heard some interesting ones relating to Fellani just now:

Quote
Possible Transfers I have Heard----------
Fellaini Is Leaving Everton----
2 Ways, Being Sold To Someone Or Manchester United Are Giving Everton Wayne Rooney +5M.....
Everton Can Get PSV'S Strootman If Fellaini Does Not Get the Swap For Rooney. PSV Demanding 17M For Strootman...

Most likely bullshit(unknown source from an EFC fan page on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=645933818755760&id=145548995460914) of all places!) but that's what the majority of rumours are.

Anyways, Rooney + 5m for Fellani?
I think I'd be ok with that to be honest.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on April 24, 2013, 08:39:51 PM
At least we got the insane bollocks out the way early doors
Title: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 24, 2013, 08:41:12 PM
Fellaini out 25m

Fer in 8m
Lescott 3.5m

And a striker
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: BrotherEstapol on April 24, 2013, 08:41:47 PM
At least we got the insane bollocks out the way early doors
Don't speak too soon.

I'm waiting for some gems from people in food vans.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jellyman on April 24, 2013, 08:43:56 PM
I'm not sure I'd take that Rooney deal. For me with the felli money we need to bring in 2-3 players with that money.

Heard I few rumours today on various other sites including:
Mbia
Dries Meertens

For me Leroy Fer/Capoue, Honda and Nathan Redmond should be the signings with the Felli money.
Title: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on April 24, 2013, 08:45:43 PM
Fellaini out 25m

Fer in 8m
Lescott 3.5m

And a striker

If that striker is Negredo I'll settle for that
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blueToffee on April 24, 2013, 09:00:30 PM
Not a chance we are signing Rooney. He isn't going to take such a massive pay cut.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on April 24, 2013, 09:06:38 PM
Lets just nip this Rooney bollocks in the bud now. Fuck its worse than Kopites who are adamant Alonso is coming back
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Verm on April 24, 2013, 09:12:09 PM
Fellaini out 25m

Fer in 8m
Lescott 3.5m

And a striker

I'd consider that a pretty damn good Summer.

Lescott would probably cost a little more though...
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Vespa on April 24, 2013, 09:38:32 PM
No way would Rooney come back on the wages we would be offering. Non starter!

I'm already resigned to Fellaini leaving for 25m  which doesn't really bother me to be honest but I'd guess the manager would only get around 10-15m of that to spend.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blue slug on April 24, 2013, 09:39:33 PM
I'm not sure I'd take that Rooney deal. For me with the felli money we need to bring in 2-3 players with that money.

Heard I few rumours today on various other sites including:
Mbia
Dries Meertens

For me Leroy Fer/Capoue, Honda and Nathan Redmond should be the signings with the Felli money.

Good shout that mate, i think honda is on a free so could get Fer for around £8m and Redmond for around £5m. If we sell fellaini and heitinga for a combined fee of say £30m that would leave us with around £15m for a defender and striker.   :woohoo:

Although we all know in reality fellaini will go and moyes or new manager will get £10m to spend max  :headbang:
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on April 24, 2013, 09:45:26 PM
Football Manager has a lot to answer for.

Well sign a striker for about 10m and replacement for fellaini (if he goes). That will be the end of the spending and will leave some people scratching heads about the balance of the 25m TV money...

...and well sign a couple of free agents.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Ong-Timus Prime on April 24, 2013, 09:53:16 PM
Mbia?

 shakeyheadman
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: School of Science on April 24, 2013, 09:54:57 PM
One classy fast goalscoring striker :)

One ball winning athletic CM  Fer?

One playmaker Capoue?

One fast big (dominent in the air) CH Lescott ?

Back up goalkeeper to challenge Howard

Thats what we need.

 To fund that out  Fellaini,Neville,Heitinga and either Hibbo or Ossie. ( Stones and Barkley can cover their positions) plus extra tv income.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Verm on April 24, 2013, 09:56:18 PM
I though Capoue was a 'ball winning athetlic CM' too?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on April 24, 2013, 09:57:30 PM
Mbia?

 shakeyheadman

I'd have him over Osman in CM any day of the week.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: fast lane on April 24, 2013, 10:00:50 PM
I heard this weekend that we;re supposedly still interested in Heerenveen's striker Finnbogason.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: School of Science on April 24, 2013, 10:04:51 PM
I though Capoue was a 'ball winning athetlic CM' too?

Unsure of that Verm,if thats the case we will need one of each,a playmaker and a ballwinner if we want to progress
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: plumber on April 24, 2013, 10:39:56 PM
I'd have him over Osman in CM any day of the week.

I'd rather have sackful of potatoes than Mbia.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: hannu on April 24, 2013, 10:43:53 PM

Heard I few rumours today on various other sites including:
Mbia
Dries Meertens



would love meertens to come here
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jellyman on April 24, 2013, 10:44:08 PM
If Mbia stopped diving around then I'd take him all day long.

He's not a CB he's a DM

Comfortable on the ball and wins tackles. He's joined a team that hasnt got going
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: School of Science on April 24, 2013, 10:50:42 PM
Mbia no thanks i'd rather have boils,a mercenary of the very worst kind,let him feed his family at QPR in the championship next year.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jellyman on April 24, 2013, 10:53:03 PM
http://www.fanatix.com/news/everton-ponder-summer-deal-for-unheralded-danish-starlet/116058/ (http://www.fanatix.com/news/everton-ponder-summer-deal-for-unheralded-danish-starlet/116058/)

Interesting one this.

Is he another Bendtner or could he be a hidden gem like Benteke?!!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Mick 1995 on April 24, 2013, 11:01:41 PM
Football Manager has a lot to answer for.

Well sign a striker for about 10m and replacement for fellaini (if he goes). That will be the end of the spending and will leave some people scratching heads about the balance of the 25m TV money...

...and well sign a couple of free agents.

Very much so.

never mind all these players will need their wages paying
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jellyman on April 24, 2013, 11:09:00 PM
On the wages front just think,

Felli is on huge wages
Jonny is on big wages
Neville is on decent money
Hitz is on a bit
Mucha the same


So if they all leave like we all expect and hope then we'll have a fair amount to play with in terms of wages.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Azz on April 24, 2013, 11:19:38 PM
We need two wingers, two strikers, two CMs, one defensive the other creative one, a right back and maybe another CB if Heitinga goes.


Oh and a manager.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Optimistic Blue on April 24, 2013, 11:30:29 PM
I heard this weekend that we;re supposedly still interested in Heerenveen's striker Finnbogason.

Is he any good fasty cat? x
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 24, 2013, 11:38:20 PM
We need two wingers, two strikers, two CMs, one defensive the other creative one, a right back and maybe another CB if Heitinga goes.


Oh and a manager.

Rb is stones
Cb is duffy
Defensive cm lundstrum
Attacking cm barkley
Wingers claasen and Kennedy
Strikers mcaleny and long

Manager Irvine

Jobs a good un
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on April 24, 2013, 11:40:30 PM
With Moyes future still in limbo,  I'd find it odd if we'd approached any players regarding a move in the summer. Think the Claasens trial is a bit odd too,  surely Moyes is staying?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on April 24, 2013, 11:40:51 PM
Why do we need two wingers? We already have two very good one's
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: christiffa25 on April 25, 2013, 12:01:51 AM
Considering we're probably gonna lose
Mucha Heitinga Neville hitzleberger fellaini guaye. Plus already being 2/3 players short this year it shows the kind of recruitment needed this summer.

I'd love Rooney, I'd love to think the romance of coming home would make him take a massive wage cut, love to think he'd already told fergie he wants to come back (explaining his slide down the pecking order) , love to think he wants his boy seeing him playing for efc whilst he could still make a massive difference but...
Reality is he's not gonna give up on half a million a month to make that happen...NO chance!!

Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on April 25, 2013, 12:04:48 AM
Considering we're probably gonna lose
Mucha Heitinga Neville hitzleberger fellaini guaye. Plus already being 2/3 players short this year it shows the kind of recruitment needed this summer.

I'd love Rooney, I'd love to think the romance of coming home would make him take a massive wage cut, love to think he'd already told fergie he wants to come back (explaining his slide down the pecking order) , love to think he wants his boy seeing him playing for efc whilst he could still make a massive difference but...
Reality is he's not gonna give up on half a million a month to make that happen...NO chance!!



I we get Rooney, there will be no money to get anyone else, and we would be stuck where we are now
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: christiffa25 on April 25, 2013, 12:10:13 AM
Why do we need two wingers? We already have two very good one's

And how we'v struggled when they have not been available or tired/out of form.

I'd like to get Sinclair from city and finally bring Donovan in and let Naismith go. If we can't get Donovan till December keep Naismith till jan window!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: christiffa25 on April 25, 2013, 12:19:19 AM
I we get Rooney, there will be no money to get anyone else, and we would be stuck where we are now

Probably yes.
Or
Could it be possible to....very FM here...

Complete the Fer deal we were gonna do in jan 8M
Buy Rooney with fellaini money
Let go Heitinga, Naismith guaye 6M
Use that cash with some tv money to bring in...
Lescott Sinclair Donovan and couple of moyes bargain free/loan deals

Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on April 25, 2013, 12:20:55 AM
Probably yes.
Or
Could it be possible to....very FM here...

Complete the Fer deal we were gonna do in jan 8M
Buy Rooney with fellaini money
Let go Heitinga, Naismith guaye 6M
Use that cash with some tv money to bring in...
Lescott Sinclair Donovan and couple of moyes bargain free/loan deals



Lad stop, for your own sanity
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: christiffa25 on April 25, 2013, 12:49:20 AM
Lad stop, for your own sanity

Haha... Yep ur right!!

Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on April 25, 2013, 01:07:39 AM
Fellaini out 25m

Fer in 8m
Lescott 3.5m

And a striker

Would love that
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Danny on April 25, 2013, 01:08:10 AM
Theres a chance we could get much more than 25 million from a Russian Club for Fellaini surley?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: plumber on April 25, 2013, 01:40:14 AM
Theres a chance we could get much more than 25 million from a Russian Club for Fellaini surley?


Fellaini is too intelligent to go to Russia.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Azz on April 25, 2013, 02:03:08 AM
Rb is stones
Cb is duffy
Defensive cm lundstrum
Attacking cm barkley
Wingers claasen and Kennedy
Strikers mcaleny and long

Manager Irvine

Jobs a good un


lolol get George Green in there as well!



Why do we need two wingers? We already have two very good one's

Exactly that reason, we have two good wingers.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: murph1588 on April 25, 2013, 03:28:01 AM
And how we'v struggled when they have not been available or tired/out of form.

I'd like to get Sinclair from city and finally bring Donovan in and let Naismith go. If we can't get Donovan till December keep Naismith till jan window!
Why Sinclair ? what as he done for City, if he was good enough he would have been playing
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Bluenose 91 on April 25, 2013, 03:28:17 AM
I hate the Scott Sinclair shouts.

He's a fucking terrible player him.

SWP MKII. All pace and absolutely no ability at all.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Mayor Farnum on April 25, 2013, 03:42:08 AM
We’re after Shaun Maloney from Wigan.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: bacon sarnie on April 25, 2013, 03:52:22 AM
Yakubu puts Newport ahead at Grimsby in the 89th minute (BBC)


Get him signed.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on April 25, 2013, 04:08:35 AM
Yakubu puts Newport ahead at Grimsby in the 89th minute (BBC)


Get him signed.

I thought he was playing in China
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jellyman on April 25, 2013, 05:25:12 AM
http://myevertonnews.com/everton-move-ahead-of-arsenal-and-inter-milan-for-talented-basel-defender/ (http://myevertonnews.com/everton-move-ahead-of-arsenal-and-inter-milan-for-talented-basel-defender/)

http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/130424/basel-defender-ready-snub-arsenal-and-make-everton-switch-19 (http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/130424/basel-defender-ready-snub-arsenal-and-make-everton-switch-19)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: christiffa25 on April 25, 2013, 08:52:46 AM
Why Sinclair ? what as he done for City, if he was good enough he would have been playing

He's done nothing for city which would make him a typical moyes buy. Young, cheap with potential to improve and increase in value. Looked a very promising player before his city switch. Can play either wing and would improve the squad/bench.

Not saying he'd come in and replace mirallas or pienaar initially but would be a better option than Naismith or guaye.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: fubarruk on April 25, 2013, 02:42:10 PM
Says he'd only join a club playing in Europe, which we won't be, end of, next...
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: bigmanbob on April 25, 2013, 02:49:09 PM
We’re after Shaun Maloney from Wigan.
If it's the Maloney that runs the show every week for Wigan, yes please, if it's the Maloney that was pants and ran back to Scotland the first tiem he came down, no ta
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Danny on April 25, 2013, 08:50:14 PM
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/everton-fc/everton-fc-news/2013/04/25/everton-fc-in-pole-position-to-land-dutch-international-stefan-de-vrij-in-summer-100252-33232806/ (http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/everton-fc/everton-fc-news/2013/04/25/everton-fc-in-pole-position-to-land-dutch-international-stefan-de-vrij-in-summer-100252-33232806/)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on April 25, 2013, 08:59:14 PM
Link to this Maloney stuff please?

Would fucking love that
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Gash on April 25, 2013, 09:36:47 PM
If it's the Maloney that runs the show every week for Wigan, yes please, if it's the Maloney that was pants and ran back to Scotland the first tiem he came down, no ta

This. And he wasn't much better when he went back either.

I was wondering earlier in the season why it's taken him until he's 30 to look a decent player?
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 25, 2013, 09:37:57 PM
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/everton-fc/everton-fc-news/2013/04/25/everton-fc-in-pole-position-to-land-dutch-international-stefan-de-vrij-in-summer-100252-33232806/ (http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/everton-fc/everton-fc-news/2013/04/25/everton-fc-in-pole-position-to-land-dutch-international-stefan-de-vrij-in-summer-100252-33232806/)
this sounds like a decent deal
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Danny on April 25, 2013, 10:18:15 PM
this sounds like a decent deal

I'd be pretty happy if we got rid of Heitinga and got him and the lad from Basel, one old defender out two 22 year old ones in.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 25, 2013, 10:20:05 PM
I'd be pretty happy if we got rid of Heitinga and got him and the lad from Basel, one old defender out two 22 year old ones in.
yeah sound..... That's why it won't happen
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Danny on April 25, 2013, 10:47:10 PM
yeah sound..... That's why it won't happen

Unfortunately so
Title: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 25, 2013, 11:07:17 PM
Heard a whisper before from a good source that Everton have inquired about Michu . Also reckons Moyes is staying. #dontshootthemessenger

James corbett..... Isn't he respected by people? I get confused with all these "respected" twitter blues
Title: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Danny on April 25, 2013, 11:17:16 PM
Heard a whisper before from a good source that Everton have inquired about Michu . Also reckons Moyes is staying. #dontshootthemessenger

James corbett..... Isn't he respected by people? I get confused with all these "respected" twitter blues

Not sure he'd even be a good signing 2bh, never a huge fan of signing people up after one amazing season (I know he was good in Spain also).
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 25, 2013, 11:23:56 PM
Not sure he'd even be a good signing 2bh, never a huge fan of signing people up after one amazing season (I know he was good in Spain also).
no nor me. Can see the logic he is a big lad decent in air... Sraight in for felli.

Not believing it tho
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: School of Science on April 25, 2013, 11:42:07 PM
This. And he wasn't much better when he went back either.

I was wondering earlier in the season why it's taken him until he's 30 to look a decent player?

Not a bad player but as you say aged 30,too old no sell on value,move on
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on April 25, 2013, 11:44:32 PM
Michu will be valued at about £20m, no thanks.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Cozzie on April 25, 2013, 11:49:01 PM
If villa go down, i'd like to see us go for Benteke.

Likewise with Loic Remy when QPR go down. Either of the two would be cracking signings.

There will be big clubs in for them both but I have a strong feeling we will sell Fellaini so we should have some good money to play with.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 25, 2013, 11:49:33 PM
Michu will be valued at about £20m, no thanks.
how much is fellaini worth then?

Younger, proved more, can cover more positions
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on April 26, 2013, 12:01:12 AM
how much is fellaini worth then?

Younger, proved more, can cover more positions
I see your point, I think Fellaini is worth £25m.


I think a few clubs will be in for Michu as well though and Swansea don't need to sell.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 26, 2013, 12:02:24 AM
I see your point, I think Fellaini is worth £25m.


I think a few clubs will be in for Michu as well though and Swansea don't need to sell.
they don't wonder if michu could force it tho?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on April 26, 2013, 12:04:04 AM
they don't wonder if michu could force it tho?

I doubt it, he seems happy under Laudrup, I don't think he's worth it though I just think that'll be the price. Not sure he would be worth spending more than £10m on personally.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 26, 2013, 12:06:16 AM
I doubt it, he seems happy under Laudrup, I don't think he's worth it though I just think that'll be the price. Not sure he would be worth spending more than £10m on personally.
big year for him next year
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Polledreng on April 26, 2013, 12:14:59 AM
big year for him next year
and Laudrup ..  normally only last 1 and half season
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Analog Kid on April 26, 2013, 12:16:54 AM
This thread's going off its tits already, and we're still in April!  :eh:
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Makis on April 26, 2013, 12:48:25 AM
If villa go down, i'd like to see us go for Benteke.
Yeah, and so would most clubs in the Premier.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Bluenose 91 on April 26, 2013, 01:03:43 AM
Wouldn't want us anywhere near Maloney either, typical MOTD player.

Average player at absolute best and as others have said, he's 30 now.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on April 26, 2013, 01:08:16 AM
Wouldn't want us anywhere near Maloney either, typical MOTD player.

Average player at absolute best and as others have said, he's 30 now.

I wasn't sure whether people were serious!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Danny on April 26, 2013, 01:08:34 AM
Wouldn't want us anywhere near Maloney either, typical MOTD player.

Average player at absolute best and as others have said, he's 30 now.

This, can't believe anyone would think otherwise.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Bluenose 91 on April 26, 2013, 01:38:10 AM
I wasn't sure whether people were serious!

Haha.

I can understand the Sinclair shouts as he has a bit of pace, which can mask a complete lack of ability.

But, Shaun Maloney. Fuck sake.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Craig_1878 on April 26, 2013, 01:58:34 AM
Question is, do people actually want to sell Fellaini so we have decent money to re-build, or is it more of a case that we're resigned to him leaving and are planning for life without him?

Title: Re: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: riddick on April 26, 2013, 02:10:24 AM
Question is, do people actually want to sell Fellaini so we have decent money to re-build, or is it more of a case that we're resigned to him leaving and are planning for life without him?
I know I'll probably get slated for this but I kinda want him gone, take the money and make it a more well rounded team. He looks completely disinterested in games against lower opposition and our game is just so..predictable when he plays up front. Against two strong cb's he gets crowded out easily.

Part of this too is moyes' either inability to see this it unwillingness too.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Danny on April 26, 2013, 02:11:23 AM
I don't want him or Moyes to leave but particularly in Fellaini's case it's just the way the club is that he'll have to leave for us to progress.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on April 26, 2013, 04:20:33 AM
how much is fellaini worth then?

Younger, proved more, can cover more positions

Kinell Jimmy lad, sometimes some stuff is obvious bullshit, and this Michu "rumour" is bullshit
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 26, 2013, 05:04:34 AM
Kinell Jimmy lad, sometimes some stuff is obvious bullshit, and this Michu "rumour" is bullshit
i don't doubt that
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on April 26, 2013, 05:11:21 AM
i don't doubt that

So dont post it if you think its complete bullshit  :)
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 26, 2013, 05:24:03 AM
So dont post it if you think its complete bullshit  :)
ha i posted it cos i was unsure if corbett was respected or not.... I still dunno if he is or not by the way
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on April 26, 2013, 05:25:23 AM
ha i posted it cos i was unsure if corbett was respected or not.... I still dunno if he is or not by the way

You really think we're in for Michu? Surely that answers your question
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Gash on April 26, 2013, 05:29:07 AM
ha i posted it cos i was unsure if corbett was respected or not.... I still dunno if he is or not by the way

If it's the James Corbett that wrote the Everton Encyclopedia  and Neville Southall's autobiography etc, then he is well respected.

I doubt we're in for Michu though?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 26, 2013, 05:29:31 AM
You really think we're in for Michu? Surely that answers your question
i don't at all no but if he is a respected blue then obvs he knows more than me so who am i to disagree ;D
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 26, 2013, 05:31:15 AM
If it's the James Corbett that wrote the Everton Encyclopedia  and Neville Southall's autobiography etc, then he is well respected.

I doubt we're in for Michu though?
yes gash... Yes that's him i knew i knew his name for sommet. I don't believe for one minute we are in for michu tho...
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on April 26, 2013, 05:51:40 AM
So are we in for Michu?
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on April 26, 2013, 05:57:57 AM
So are we in for Michu?
according to a much respected blue yes we made an enquiry. To me and you no chance
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Maestro Haze on April 26, 2013, 06:50:37 AM
Still not convinced that Fellaini's leaving. If Moyes stays (which I think he will) then I think we'll use whatever money wisely on 'younger' players.

I can't see Fellaini at Chelsea and he's not stupid enough to go to Russia, so where would he go? He's not going to put in a transfer request, so I'm guessing he'll stay until at least next year unless a stupid bid comes from somewhere. He came out and said he's happy to see out his contract.

I don't think anyone knows how much we'll get to spend in the summer, I think it'll be a decent amount but not significant enough unless Heitinga/Gueye are sold, and that will be pittance.

Based on rumors, Fer is a player we need to go in for, he's a young, box to box MF and playing at International level.
De Vrij, again young, could replace Distin, captaining his side already at 21, another international.
Striker is a hard one really as they're all so expensive, anyone know of any decently priced strikers?
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Bally on April 26, 2013, 01:57:29 PM
If it's the James Corbett that wrote the Everton Encyclopedia  and Neville Southall's autobiography etc, then he is well respected.

I doubt we're in for Michu though?

If it is the same fella and he has said that we've made an enquiry, then I am inclined to believe it, might email him and ask where he got it from.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: phillyt on April 26, 2013, 02:20:29 PM
I think people should make the distinction between making an enquiry or "going in for someone" and having a chance of actually signing someone.

Why wouldn't we go in for michu he us a good player who we might feel we could tempt swansea with an offer, chances are tho swansea will laugh at our offer and tell us to piss off.


The rumour we went in for him is true tho.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on April 26, 2013, 02:39:08 PM
Let Newcastle or the shite spunk loads of money on Michu, his value is completely distorted now. Still annoys me that he went to Swansea for a pittance. I'm not a scout but I watched enough La liga last year to know that he was a top quality player. That ship has sailed.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Danny on April 26, 2013, 03:41:16 PM
Why do some of you think that Fellaini isn't stupid enough to go to Russia? I've seen it said a few times now and i've no idea what it's based on.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Danny on April 26, 2013, 06:11:38 PM
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4901739/Sam-Byram-a-target-for-Everton-and-Man-City.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4901739/Sam-Byram-a-target-for-Everton-and-Man-City.html)

On the sun but it was the only link I could find of the rumour. I highly doubt we've got 10 million for a 19 year old.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on April 26, 2013, 06:24:32 PM
Moutinho - its on!

http://www.abola.pt/nnh/ver.aspx?id=395666 (http://www.abola.pt/nnh/ver.aspx?id=395666)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Danny on April 26, 2013, 06:45:24 PM
Moutinho - its on!

http://www.abola.pt/nnh/ver.aspx?id=395666 (http://www.abola.pt/nnh/ver.aspx?id=395666)


Lazy journalists in Portugal aswell I see
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Good_Eye_Sniper on April 26, 2013, 06:49:31 PM
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4901739/Sam-Byram-a-target-for-Everton-and-Man-City.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4901739/Sam-Byram-a-target-for-Everton-and-Man-City.html)

On the sun but it was the only link I could find of the rumour. I highly doubt we've got 10 million for a 19 year old.

Furthermore with Coleman, Hibbert and Stones as cover for that position I would question the sense is spending all our money on another right back.  :bonk:
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: fast lane on April 26, 2013, 09:48:20 PM
PSV's Kevin Strootman I saw we were supposedly interested in, but it won't happen.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: kevmike2 on April 26, 2013, 10:12:38 PM

Striker is a hard one really as they're all so expensive, anyone know of any decently priced strikers?
[/quote]

kone - wigan
vossen - genk?
cornelius - fc copenhagen
mbokani - anderlecht

wouldnt imagine any of these would severely break the bank....
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Mick 1995 on April 26, 2013, 11:22:45 PM
Philyt is right. We probably enquire about dozens and dozens of players. Then when we find out people want money for them back away.

On another note, Mirallas is meant to be wanting to move to Spain and Juan Carlos has rejected the notion of coming to Everton.
The Mirallas one was more of a 'id like to play in Spain one day' kind of quote (finished by saying he will 100% play for Liege as well at some point) and papers going on to make that mean he wants to leave RIGHT NOW
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on April 26, 2013, 11:56:03 PM
Striker is a hard one really as they're all so expensive, anyone know of any decently priced strikers?


kone - wigan
vossen - genk?
cornelius - fc copenhagen
mbokani - anderlecht

wouldnt imagine any of these would severely break the bank....

I would buy that lump from Oldham. Just to score against Liverpool twice a year
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on April 27, 2013, 01:19:32 AM
Id be happy if we got Finnbogasson.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Bluenose 91 on April 27, 2013, 01:25:01 AM
PSV's Kevin Strootman I saw we were supposedly interested in, but it won't happen.


Meant to be some player him isn't he?

Never seen him myself.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: ForzaItalia on April 27, 2013, 03:37:08 AM
Moutinho - its on!

http://www.abola.pt/nnh/ver.aspx?id=395666 (http://www.abola.pt/nnh/ver.aspx?id=395666)


Are they using the Daily Express as a source?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Analog Kid on April 27, 2013, 03:43:12 AM
Moutinho - its on!

http://www.abola.pt/nnh/ver.aspx?id=395666 (http://www.abola.pt/nnh/ver.aspx?id=395666)


Didn't the deal with him and Spirs break down over wages? He wanted near 90k or more and Spurs wouldn't budge.

If so, that would deffo rule us out.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on April 27, 2013, 03:46:27 AM
Cornelius could be a player. Good record in his career,  so far.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Brownie on April 28, 2013, 08:00:05 PM
So today's offerings from the rags

Baines to spurs
Felli to that rich Russian side
Jonny H advertising or a nanny that will have to move country

Moyes to stay
Lescott and McCarthy (is that his name) from Wigan
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jellyman on April 30, 2013, 11:09:20 PM
http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/130430/everton-red-alert-fiorentina-midfielder-nears-exit-196659 (http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/130430/everton-red-alert-fiorentina-midfielder-nears-exit-196659)

Everton have been put on red alert after the agent of Fiorentina midfielder Adem Ljajic revealed they are no closer to agreeing a new contract with the club.

Ljajic, 21, is rated one of the best young prospects in Serie A following his impressive displays this season.

Everton have been strongly linked with a move for the Serbian international and reports suggested they were on the verge of completing a £6.8m deal.

Fiorentina strongly denied those claims, but Ljajic's agent Fali Ramadani admits his long-term future is still undecided and hopes a decision will be made in the next few weeks.

Ramadani, speaking on Italian website Calciomercato, said: "We are dealing with Fiorentina but we have not reached any agreement for the extension of his contract.

"We do not have any (more) scheduled meetings at the moment. A decision has yet to be made."


Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: School of Science on May 04, 2013, 03:57:10 AM
Rumour from TPF,Fellaini straight swap for Lukaku and Debrune,if true i'd go for that

http://members.boardhost.com/peoplesforum/msg/1367610369.html (http://members.boardhost.com/peoplesforum/msg/1367610369.html)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Danny on May 04, 2013, 05:17:10 AM
Rumour from TPF,Fellaini straight swap for Lukaku and Debrune,if true i'd go for that

http://members.boardhost.com/peoplesforum/msg/1367610369.html (http://members.boardhost.com/peoplesforum/msg/1367610369.html)

That just doesn't seem likely at all, i'm not sure i'd want it either. Lukaku has proven he's a decent player and teams like Dortmund apparnetly want De Bruyne but i'd rather Moyes just got to pick the players he wants with the cash.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Analog Kid on May 04, 2013, 05:26:41 AM
Heavily linked with De Bruyne a few seasons ago.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: brap2 on May 04, 2013, 11:52:28 PM
Why do some of you think that Fellaini isn't stupid enough to go to Russia? I've seen it said a few times now and i've no idea what it's based on.

he'd be off in a fucking flash.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on May 04, 2013, 11:57:56 PM
That just doesn't seem likely at all, i'm not sure i'd want it either. Lukaku has proven he's a decent player and teams like Dortmund apparnetly want De Bruyne but i'd rather Moyes just got to pick the players he wants with the cash.

If there's a bit of money lying around elsewhere (for Fer, for example), I wouldn't mind this. Would give us a Premiership-proven striker that looks to have 20 goals/season potential, and an exciting young attacking midfielder, both of which we really need. De Bruyne may want out of Chelsea's setup, since his girlfriend apparently had an affair with Courtois. He wants first-team action, which we could certainly give; it's just a matter of whether he would want to come here, over Dortmund in Germany (if the rumours of him being part of a Schurrle deal have any weight). And Lukaku may not want to stick around if there's anything to Falcao and/or Hulk coming in.

That would also mean that we'd get roughly £30-45M for Fellaini (20-25M for Lukaku, and 10-20M for De Bruyne, depending on exact valuations), all of which would be immediately reinvested, while likely trimming a little off the wage bill.

I, for one, would probably do it. Both players slot right into the first team immediately (depending on formation), and will only get better/increase in value.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: bluegrant on May 05, 2013, 12:34:31 AM
Well whoever they do, if any get in i hope they dont mind warming the bench for a couple of seasons with ovideo  unless they are scottish. :whistle:
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: plumber on May 05, 2013, 01:11:19 AM
Well whoever they do, if any get in i hope they dont mind warming the bench for a couple of seasons with ovideo  unless they are scottish. :whistle:

I never knew Fellaini, Mirallas, Jelavic, Gibson, Howard, Pienaar, Arteta were all Scottish.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Makis on May 05, 2013, 01:34:46 AM
It's funny when one of our players does a nice dummy when he comes on in his first game on the 85th minute it proves he should start every game from then on. Moyes, who sees the player every day in training couldn't possibly make a better judgement.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Danny on May 05, 2013, 02:11:39 AM
he'd be off in a fucking flash.

Exactly, the second his Dad sees the wages on offer.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: bluegrant on May 05, 2013, 03:30:18 AM
I never knew Fellaini, Mirallas, Jelavic, Gibson, Howard, Pienaar, Arteta were all Scottish.
plumber i know that ,but moyes has changed since then how long before he played mirrallas  ,how many times has ovideo played? dont forget these 2 were not freebies  he  has become very defensive minded  imo :cheers:
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: 74Blue on May 05, 2013, 04:34:43 AM
The problem that Oviedo has is that he was brought in as a left sided player and was primarily a left full back at FC Copenhagen if I'm not mistaken. He's come to a club that has one of the best left backs in Europe in Baines and one of the best left sided partnerships in the league in Baines & Pienaar, so he was never going to just walk straight into the side.
He's a cracking option to have around from the little that we have seen of him so far, and provides us with some quality cover down the left side - the type of depth that we could do with across the whole team if we are to maintain a serious challenge in the top 6 and in the cup competitions.
His options are:
1. Work his bollocks off in training & prove that he is a better option than Baines - unlikely as Baines is such an important cog in our current set up & one that could not be replaced easily.
2. Keep plugging away in training & hope that Baines either picks up a knock that forces him out of the side for a spell or decides to move on to bigger & better things, then play out of his skin to make it difficult/impossible to drop him.
3. Same as options 1 & 2, but for Baines, replace with Pienaar
4. Move on to another club where he is more likely to get game time.

We are now seeing the benefit of a player working his arse off & waiting for his opportunity in Seamus Coleman. Based on his recent performances, could he be dropped in favour of Hibbert or Neville? Oviedo is just going to have to accept that he has to do the same and hope that his opportunity comes along.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: the roy vernon plan on May 05, 2013, 10:54:31 AM
For me there is no argument in hell that justifies Naismith getting a game ahead of Oviedo.

Stick Pienarr on the right, stick Miralles on the right anything/anybody but Naismith.

Oviedo had a good game against Norwich at home and has barely been seen since then.

Likewise Hetenga.  How bad dioes he have to play to get dropped and before Duffy is given a chance?   
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: BrotherEstapol on May 05, 2013, 04:38:36 PM
Likewise Hetenga. How bad dioes he have to play to get dropped and before Duffy is given a chance?   
Who mate?
Also what's a "dioes"?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: plumber on May 05, 2013, 04:47:29 PM
plumber i know that ,but moyes has changed since then how long before he played mirrallas  ,how many times has ovideo played? dont forget these 2 were not freebies  he  has become very defensive minded  imo :cheers:

Yes, he's changed. This season we have played the most attacking and entertaining football in years.

Mirallas has always been Moyes' first choice and will always be, as long as he's fit.
Oviedo was bought as a backup left back as was mentioned above and it's not easy to compete with the best left back in the prem.

Jesus, mate, you should find another subject to moan about before you turn into Roy Vernon Plan.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: plumber on May 05, 2013, 04:57:13 PM
For me there is no argument in hell that justifies Naismith getting a game ahead of Oviedo.

Stick Pienarr on the right, stick Miralles on the right anything/anybody but Naismith.

Oviedo had a good game against Norwich at home and has barely been seen since then.

Likewise Hetenga.  How bad dioes he have to play to get dropped and before Duffy is given a chance?    

Who mate?


An accessory of Billy Liar, Kirkby Bill and Club Record Holder, I guess.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: bluestevie on May 05, 2013, 06:57:41 PM
For me there is no argument in hell that justifies Naismith getting a game ahead of Oviedo.

Stick Pienarr on the right, stick Miralles on the right anything/anybody but Naismith.

Oviedo had a good game against Norwich at home and has barely been seen since then.

Likewise Hetenga.  How bad dioes he have to play to get dropped and before Duffy is given a chance?   
                       

FFS you thicko its not that bloody hard to spell the players names right. For the record they are spelt Pienaar, Mirallas and Heitinga
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Brownie on May 05, 2013, 11:48:02 PM
Callum McManaman linked today
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Heisenberg on May 05, 2013, 11:57:01 PM
Not that it will ever happen, but i wish the prem was abit like the NFL with a draft and that.

The gulf in class between the top teams to the rest is too big, its like everyone in the middle is their to just fill numbers
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: steve81 on May 06, 2013, 12:36:07 AM
 link=topic=40957.msg588568#or=link=topic=40957.msg588568#msg588568 date=1367747249]
Yes, he's changed. This season we have played the most attacking and entertaining football in years.

Mirallas has always been Moyes' first choice and will always be, as long as he's fit.
Oviedo was bought as a backup left back as was mentioned above and it's not easy to compete with the best left back in the prem.

Jesus, mate, you should find another subject to moan about before you turn into Roy Vernon Plan.

[/quote]might have started season playing attacking football but since around December we have gone back to boring negative football
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: krakkokain on May 06, 2013, 02:03:02 AM
Callum McManaman linked today

I like him he seems a decent player with a bit of bite in him as well, hes an Everton fan as well and was released by us at the age of 16. I see a Naismith plus offer in not too distant future!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on May 06, 2013, 03:29:55 AM
We need a striker if we want Europe next season, Anichebe and the current Jelavic just aren't up to it in producing the goals.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on May 06, 2013, 08:48:27 PM
Keep felli and get benteke? Haha  :snigger:

@1Benteke: Relax time. Watch my boy v Liverpool @fellainiM bonne chance!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Makis on May 07, 2013, 02:29:45 PM
Official QPR Twitter account claims we are interested in Hoilett:

Quote
Looks like Junior Hoilett may be on his way out of Loftus Road - Everton, Stoke & Swansea are all interested in the young forward.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: fubarruk on May 07, 2013, 03:33:56 PM
Official QPR Twitter account claims we are interested in Hoilett:

No thanks, struggles to get in a QPR side he went to purely for the money, the pure definition of a modern day mercenary footballer. Got a few QPR lads I know who say he's one of the worst culprits of the fucked up state that clubs in!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Makis on May 07, 2013, 03:43:40 PM
Hoilett was excellent for two seasons in Blackburn and the big clubs were interested. He almost managed to keep them up with Yakubu.

And let's be honest: QPR was supposed to make it big. They were spending big, only problem was they had a clogger like Hughes running the show (I'd like to ask the idiot in BlueKipper who thought Hughes should be appointed instead of Moyes what he thinks now).

Hoilett is 22, quick, skillful and has proved he can score goals. If "moving to a bigger club" is a detriment then there are plenty of players you won't accept. Basically anyone from the top teams, for starters.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: fubarruk on May 07, 2013, 03:55:16 PM
Hoilett was excellent for two seasons in Blackburn and the big clubs were interested. He almost managed to keep them up with Yakubu.

And let's be honest: QPR was supposed to make it big. They were spending big, only problem was they had a clogger like Hughes running the show (I'd like to ask the idiot in BlueKipper who thought Hughes should be appointed instead of Moyes what he thinks now).

Hoilett is 22, quick, skillful and has proved he can score goals. If "moving to a bigger club" is a detriment then there are plenty of players you won't accept. Basically anyone from the top teams, for starters.

So you're suggesting that from all the options he had when leaving Blackburn (and there were many), he chose QPR for 'footballing' reasons?

Doesn't really matter as if I remember he went there on ridiculous wages in the 60k pw region, something we(or anyone else) will ever match.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on May 07, 2013, 06:32:41 PM
Hoilett = Toilet

His form has gone down the pan.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Heisenberg on May 07, 2013, 06:38:30 PM
Signing good players who have under performed, no problem with that!

Its our only chance of buying a proven prem player
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on May 07, 2013, 06:42:14 PM
Amido Baldé

http://www.abola.pt/nnh/ver.aspx?id=398919 (http://www.abola.pt/nnh/ver.aspx?id=398919)

After England (Everton and Newcastle), Spain (Seville) and Germany (Hamburg and Werder Bremen), Balde now enters the radar of clubs based in Italy. Chievo presents itself as a potential candidate to services the attacker Luso-Guinea from next season and this will have been the main reason for the application for accreditation made ​​by the Italian emblem for the match between Guimaraes and Gil Vicente.

The live period of enormous glow, Balde only have one year contract and his future should go through the change of scenery.

Moreover, the administration of SAD Guimarães, led by Julius Mendes and holds only 30 percent of the economic rights of the player (60 percent are cationic agent Balde and the remaining 10 belong to Sporting), has realized that the transfer of international sub-20 may prove to be an important source of income for the coffers of the emblem of the Castle
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Makis on May 07, 2013, 07:51:00 PM
Hoilett = Toilet

His form has gone down the pan.
On the other hand he's only 22 and QPR is a train wreck. First Hughes as a manager, then Redknapp. Who at QPR have impressed anyways?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Silas on May 07, 2013, 09:25:54 PM
Hoillett would be a good signing and wouldn't be the first young player to come to Everton and build their reputation.  He won't expect 60k a week either. 
Title: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on May 07, 2013, 09:30:48 PM
I would take hoilett if he fucked them wages off.... He looked a decent lad at bburn
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: gemine69 on May 07, 2013, 10:04:17 PM
Hoilett = Toilet

His form has gone down the pan.

Made me chuckle that.
Title: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on May 07, 2013, 10:24:06 PM
I would take hoilett if he fucked them wages off.... He looked a decent lad at bburn

Yeah, he's certainly not been worth the £50k per week that QPR's been paying him. Knock that down by half, give or take, and it would be okay. 3 goals and 2 assists in 26 appearances, whilst paying him £2.5M, it's not hard to see why QPR is in a bad position.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on May 07, 2013, 10:27:25 PM
I would take hoilett if he fucked them wages off.... He looked a decent lad at bburn

This.

Would fit the theoretical criteria of being young and also able to operate along the line behind the striker. An area that we need competition in.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on May 07, 2013, 10:33:08 PM
In all seriousness. He's got to be a better option than most of our current bench.

Wages would be a stumbling block and I guess he's the sort of player QPR would look to retain in order to push for immediate promotion.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Lapeno on May 07, 2013, 11:13:13 PM
On the other hand he's only 22 and QPR is a train wreck. First Hughes as a manager, then Redknapp. Who at QPR have impressed anyways?

Loic Remy 5 goals in 11 appearances and if rumours are to be believed, relegation clause at around £6 million. Only 26, current French international and providing Newcastle go down, I reckon we could grab him.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on May 08, 2013, 01:12:50 AM
Would love the Remy thing to happen
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on May 08, 2013, 01:26:09 AM
Loic Remy 5 goals in 11 appearances and if rumours are to be believed, relegation clause at around £6 million. Only 26, current French international and providing Newcastle go down, I reckon we could grab him.

He plays for QPR; so it should be clear soon if he has that clause.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: hannu on May 08, 2013, 04:14:01 AM
He plays for QPR; so it should be clear soon if he has that clause.


i think he was gettin at the fact that newcastle basicly only buy french players
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Bluedoc on May 08, 2013, 04:19:24 AM
Can't see Newcastle going back in for Remy after he turned them down once. Bit embarrassing for both player and Geordies that one.

Can't see him wanting to leave London - arsenal or spurs I reckon
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Silas on June 08, 2013, 10:36:30 PM
Bumpity bump, can we please put any rumours and speculation about who we would like in here!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Silas on June 08, 2013, 10:36:40 PM
Oh and Kone can fuck off.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Eddie on June 08, 2013, 10:52:13 PM
I want Kone! Not arsed if we don't sign anyone else.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Cozzie on June 08, 2013, 11:05:02 PM
Kone is shite, HOWEVER, he is better than what we have weirdly.

I only want Mcmanaman from Wigan no one else from that team.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Amata on June 08, 2013, 11:05:36 PM
Apparently Everton, along with Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal, Fulham & Southampton have scouts at the U21 tournament. I wonder if we are still looking at Fer or just having a look to see if anyone stands out?

Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Eddie on June 08, 2013, 11:14:57 PM
My post was just a joke but I wouldn't say he's shit. He's looked ok when I've seen him, although its not worth spending 5m+ on him. We definitely need a good striker...if jelavic doesn't get his form back next season it only really leaves us with big vic. His usual form of 1 good game every 5 or so isn't good enough.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on June 08, 2013, 11:21:11 PM
Kone isnt shite, not even close to being shite. Scored goals wherever he's been, and easily averages 1 in 3, thus meaning he would probably get around 12-15 league goals if he was here.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on June 08, 2013, 11:22:12 PM
Kone is shite, HOWEVER, he is better than what we have weirdly.

I only want Mcmanaman from Wigan no one else from that team.


I'd want to see more of McManaman before any serious money was spent on him.

In McCarthy for me.

Kone is 29; I'm sure we could get the same, if not better, for cheaper and younger.
Title: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Silas on June 08, 2013, 11:41:37 PM
Kone isn't as good as Vic

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Title: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on June 08, 2013, 11:47:02 PM
Kone isn't as good as Vic

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He's better than Vic. He scores goals, do you trust Vic to hit between 12-15 league goals?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Silas on June 08, 2013, 11:55:40 PM
He's better than Vic. He scores goals, do you trust Vic to hit between 12-15 league goals?

No but I wouldn't trust Kone to either.  His record isn't impressive.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on June 08, 2013, 11:59:13 PM
No but I wouldn't trust Kone to either.  His record isn't impressive.

106 in 294 better than a goal every 3 games. Apart from a spell in Germany he's done well wherever he's been
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Eddie on June 09, 2013, 12:00:02 AM
No but I wouldn't trust Kone to either.  His record isn't impressive.

11 goals isn't a bad return for a team that got relegated. Didn't our highest goalscorer (a midfielder) only get 11?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Silas on June 09, 2013, 12:08:01 AM
26 games 8 goals for Vic last season
30 games 11 goals for Kone.  

Not a massive difference there and Kone has years on Vic.  He's not terrible or anything but he's not enough of an improvement (if he is) on anything we have got to be worth the effort.  
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on June 09, 2013, 12:09:57 AM
26 games 8 goals for Vic last season
30 games 11 goals for Kone.  

Not a massive difference there and Kone has years on Vic.  He's not terrible or anything but he's not enough of an improvement (if he is) on anything we have got to be worth the effort.  

I think Vic gets found out when he has a run of games. If Kone had that chance at Spurs he would of put it away. Anything below 5mil and I would have him anyday
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: van der Meyde on June 09, 2013, 12:12:52 AM
I'd want to see more of McManaman before any serious money was spent on him.

In McCarthy for me.

Kone is 29; I'm sure we could get the same, if not better, for cheaper and younger.
If Moyes was still here, I'd agree, but is it really necessary given Martinez will have watched him regularly in training? Surely he'd be the best person to judge whether he has the skill, intelligence and work ethic to judge whether he's worth the price tag.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Silas on June 09, 2013, 12:12:55 AM
I think Vic gets found out when he has a run of games. If Kone had that chance at Spurs he would of put it away. Anything below 5mil and I would have him anyday

This season is the first time I can remember him really having a run of games.  You have no idea if Kone would put it away, I am sure Kone has missed similar chances otherwise his goal return would be far better.

He would be another name but he's not significantly different enough or prolific enough to worth the effort for me whatever the price.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on June 09, 2013, 12:16:14 AM
If Moyes was still here, I'd agree, but is it really necessary given Martinez will have watched him regularly in training? Surely he'd be the best person to judge whether he has the skill, intelligence and work ethic to judge whether he's worth the price tag.

Well yeah I agree if we were actually to make a move for him.

I'm not sure we will though!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on June 09, 2013, 12:18:22 AM
This season is the first time I can remember him really having a run of games.  You have no idea if Kone would put it away, I am sure Kone has missed similar chances otherwise his goal return would be far better.

He would be another name but he's not significantly different enough or prolific enough to worth the effort for me whatever the price.

This.

I'd say Kone has an edge over Anichebe but that's probably due to his extra experience.

I we had more money that we do; or he was cheaper then fine, I'd take him to complement out striking options.

But at the rumoured £6.5m it'd be a no from me.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Rosco on June 09, 2013, 12:42:13 AM
http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/mirallas-targets-spanish-switch/? (http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/mirallas-targets-spanish-switch/?)

oh crap!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Silas on June 09, 2013, 01:09:15 AM


oh crap!
 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2013/06/mirallas-may-entertain-a-move-to-spain-next-season/[/url)

Fixed!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Bluedylan on June 09, 2013, 01:16:57 AM
Kev's going nowhere....it's a standard end of season interview, overblown by the media.

No to Kone....Jela is as good as him, and when really on form, he's better. Vic's developing. If we get a striker, it needs to be a real step up in class from what we already have (with Felli money, presumably).
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: benny on June 09, 2013, 02:10:56 AM
Kev's going nowhere....it's a standard end of season interview, overblown by the media.

No to Kone....Jela is as good as him, and when really on form, he's better. Vic's developing. If we get a striker, it needs to be a real step up in class from what we already have (with Felli money, presumably).

              This
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Eddie on June 09, 2013, 02:28:41 AM
Kev's going nowhere....it's a standard end of season interview, overblown by the media.

No to Kone....Jela is as good as him, and when really on form, he's better. Vic's developing. If we get a striker, it needs to be a real step up in class from what we already have (with Felli money, presumably).

I agree with the top part.

Jelavic isn't any better than gervinho based on last seasons form. It just all depends if he can get back to the form he showed when we first signed him. If he can't he's useless to us. Victor, 75% of the time, is useless.

I'm not saying get Kone as the main striker but we need depth in the squad in all positions. So if we do sell one or two of our top players for big money we'll need a top striker and someone like Kone as a backup. I don't trust vic and who knows what jelavic will turn up next season.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: hannu on June 09, 2013, 03:30:16 AM
am saying no to kone, he has stupid hair and looks like a prat

Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Bluedylan on June 09, 2013, 04:03:38 AM

Jelavic isn't any better than gervinho based on last seasons form. It just all depends if he can get back to the form he showed when we first signed him. If he can't he's useless to us. Victor, 75% of the time, is useless.

I'm not saying get Kone as the main striker but we need depth in the squad in all positions. So if we do sell one or two of our top players for big money we'll need a top striker and someone like Kone as a backup. I don't trust vic and who knows what jelavic will turn up next season.

Much as I loved Moyesie, I think the striker thing is a valid criticism of him, and I think he has to take some blame with Jela, as with other previous strikers. He's clearly a finisher, he's useless pulling out to the left wing, and taking people on or whatever. I also think the man management left a bit to be desired. He didn't restore Jela's confidence all season long (obviously the player is to blame as well for that).

I just think a new manager with a fresh start and Jela could still be a really good player for us. He can clearly finish instinctively, and probably needs an arm around him and to say 'just stay in and around the box as much as you can, and together we'll get you feeling good and scoring again'. I wish players didn't need such things, but confidence is fickle and sometimes you need support to foster it.

Kone as a backup/squad player, aged 29...for £6.5m? I take your point about depth, but that doesn't represent great value to me. I'd much sooner have my squad/backup striker to be a really talented young striker who's chomping at the bit to play, assuming the scouts can find a young European/S. American striker who fits that bill.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: hill135 on June 09, 2013, 04:07:08 AM
What about replacements for Fellaini, should he leave?  How much of the spondooley should we be looking to spend here? And what about names? I like the look of the Bouncer, but he seems a different sort of player - was hoping to see him playing with Fellaini last Jan. Wanyama anyone?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Eddie on June 09, 2013, 04:12:50 AM
Much as I loved Moyesie, I think the striker thing is a valid criticism of him, and I think he has to take some blame with Jela, as with other previous strikers. He's clearly a finisher, he's useless pulling out to the left wing, and taking people on or whatever. I also think the man management left a bit to be desired. He didn't restore Jela's confidence all season long (obviously the player is to blame as well for that).

I just think a new manager with a fresh start and Jela could still be a really good player for us. He can clearly finish instinctively, and probably needs an arm around him and to say 'just stay in and around the box as much as you can, and together we'll get you feeling good and scoring again'. I wish players didn't need such things, but confidence is fickle and sometimes you need support to foster it.

Kone as a backup/squad player, aged 29...for £6.5m? I take your point about depth, but that doesn't represent great value to me. I'd much sooner have my squad/backup striker to be a really talented young striker who's chomping at the bit to play, assuming the scouts can find a young European/S. American striker who fits that bill.

Yeah our strikers didn't thrive under him did they? Not for long periods anyway. His systems never really suited 'a finisher', he wanted his forwards to spend more time in the channels than anywhere else. Alot of the time they were isolated by long balls with nobody to knock it down to. Whether that was moyes' doing is up for debate.

I wouldn't pay more than 5m for Kone to be a squad player. If there's better alternatives for around the same price then fine, I just can't think of any.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Bluedylan on June 09, 2013, 04:19:52 AM
Yeah our strikers didn't thrive under him did they? Not for long periods anyway. His systems never really suited 'a finisher', he wanted his forwards to spend more time in the channels than anywhere else. Alot of the time they were isolated by long balls with nobody to knock it down to. Whether that was moyes' doing is up for debate.

I wouldn't pay more than 5m for Kone to be a squad player. If there's better alternatives for around the same price then fine, I just can't think of any.

Yeah, point taken. Around the 5 mill mark would be reasonable I suppose, and he is a good player.

With Moyes, I just always thought we had enough attacking midfielders in a lot of games with Kev, Piennar, Ossie, Fell (pls Bainesy and Seamus bombing on down the flanks), that we could afford Jela to just be a finisher, and not need to run the channels. Especially in home games against weaker opposition.

Anyway that's done and dusted. Do you (or anyone else for that matter) know what kind of strikers Martinez prefers from his previous clubs? I'm guessing he wants someone who can link up, and play outside of the box as well, with his brand of football....so maybe, going against my argument earlier, Jela won't be the right fit for our new manager.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Eddie on June 09, 2013, 04:27:15 AM
Given his style of play its clear he won't be looking for a target man or even a hold up player. If we're going to start working the ball into the box then a finisher is exactly what we need. Whether it be through through balls or crosses. I imagine judging by Kone he'd favour pace to get in behind the defence.

As you said we have enough creativity in the team to allow the striker to concentrate on scoring goals.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Zodiak on June 09, 2013, 05:20:40 AM
Wasn't Andreas Cornelius valued at 5 million? 20 year old striker just finished top goalscorer in the Danish league for Copenhagen. Moyes was rumoured to be a big fan. I'd rather take a punt on him for 5 million than 30 year old Kone for 6.5.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: whichonespink on June 09, 2013, 05:26:31 AM
we are linked with a move for victor moses

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-transfer-news-everton-roberto-1940871 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-transfer-news-everton-roberto-1940871)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2338105/Everton-boss-Roberto-Martinez-wants-sign-Chelseas-Victor-Moses.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2338105/Everton-boss-Roberto-Martinez-wants-sign-Chelseas-Victor-Moses.html)

i think we could probably get him for less than the 10 million reported

Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: cantoffee on June 09, 2013, 05:28:19 AM
Don't see how anyone can think spending 6.5 million on a 29 yr old striker who is only half decent is a good idea.

I also seem to remember Martinez being interested in Anichebe so I don't he'd bring in a similar type of player for such big money.

If we buy a striker it has to be someone who will push us on or have the potential to do so. I would say Loic Remy but he's a rapist so that's a no go.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Eddie on June 09, 2013, 05:31:13 AM
Wasn't Andreas Cornelius valued at 5 million? 20 year old striker just finished top goalscorer in the Danish league for Copenhagen. Moyes was rumoured to be a big fan. I'd rather take a punt on him for 5 million than 30 year old Kone for 6.5.

That stinks of a Sean Dundee signing to me!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Zodiak on June 09, 2013, 05:33:56 AM
There must be strikers out there around 25 years of age or lower. Unfortunately, signing players at Everton on decent money with no re-sale value isn't an option to us.

I still like the look of Wilfied Bony, 24 years of age and looks a goalscorer. Andreas Cornelius too I've already mentioned, 20 years old and just topped the scoring charts for Copenhagen in Denmark.

We can't be spending 6 million+ on Kone that would be silly. He's not that good either.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Zodiak on June 09, 2013, 05:36:32 AM
we are linked with a move for victor moses

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-transfer-news-everton-roberto-1940871 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-transfer-news-everton-roberto-1940871)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2338105/Everton-boss-Roberto-Martinez-wants-sign-Chelseas-Victor-Moses.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2338105/Everton-boss-Roberto-Martinez-wants-sign-Chelseas-Victor-Moses.html)

i think we could probably get him for less than the 10 million reported


Disagree. They paid 9 million so I can't see them selling for anything other than a profit. Would be a very good signing though and again its an age thing. He's 22 years old, we really do need to start buying these younger players to bring down the age of our squad which is getting a little long in the tooth.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Zodiak on June 09, 2013, 05:37:47 AM
That stinks of a Sean Dundee signing to me!
Cornelius? He's very highly rated and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him joining a bigger club than us in the very near future.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1591314-scouting-europe-andreas-cornelius-and-the-best-young-prospects-in-denmark (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1591314-scouting-europe-andreas-cornelius-and-the-best-young-prospects-in-denmark)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Eddie on June 09, 2013, 05:41:37 AM
Cornelius? He's very highly rated and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him joining a bigger club than us in the very near future.

To be fair I don't know anything about him I'm just always dubious when people quote goal scoring records from poor leagues.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Zodiak on June 09, 2013, 06:01:05 AM
To be fair I don't know anything about him I'm just always dubious when people quote goal scoring records from poor leagues.
That's our market though. We can't afford those with good goalscoring records in Spain or Italy, they cost 15+ million.

Cornelius seems a talent, to top the scoring charts even in Denmark, after just turning 20 and also scoring for his country is impressive. The quoted 5 million isn't even that much of a gamble really.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on June 09, 2013, 04:02:51 PM
The likes of Moses (£3m), McCarthy (£1.2m initial) and Kone (£2.7m) were all available at good prices before they moved to the Prem and their prices inflated. We need to get these players earlier. It'd break my heart to pay £6.5m for Kone.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Polledreng on June 09, 2013, 04:08:36 PM
To be fair I don't know anything about him I'm just always dubious when people quote goal scoring records from poor leagues.
perhaps you shouldn't judge him then  ;) He is way better than you think ( and I have seen plenty of him)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Polledreng on June 09, 2013, 04:24:40 PM
To be fair I don't know anything about him I'm just always dubious when people quote goal scoring records from poor leagues.
I guess you feel the norwegian league is poor aswell. Ask the mighty England U21's what they think about Norway   ;)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Cods on June 09, 2013, 04:25:47 PM
I'd want to see more of McManaman before any serious money was spent on him.

In McCarthy for me.

Kone is 29; I'm sure we could get the same, if not better, for cheaper and younger.
Agreed.

I think that most have got the wrong 'Mc'

McCarthy for me too.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Eddie on June 09, 2013, 04:29:32 PM
perhaps you shouldn't judge him then  ;) He is way better than you think without having watched him


I didn't judge HIM, I don't know anything about him as I said. Zodiac mentioned him as being worth a punt based on his goal scoring record in the Danish league....scoring goals in a poor league doesn't make you a good player....Sean Dundee.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Mick 1995 on June 09, 2013, 04:30:38 PM
Round up of todays gossip:
Mirror
We're after Moses and McArthur, Mcmanaman McCarthy, Ramis & Kone potential targets.

The Sun
Fellaini has told Kenwright he doesnt want to leave and Martinez thinks he will stay. They confirm nobody has expressed an interest never mid put a bid in.
Liverpool are going to try and "grab" Kone from "under our noses".

Express
We have staked an interest in Abdisalam Ibrahim. Arsenal still favourites to land him.

Goal.com
Jags says nobody knows what theyre meant to be doing/thinking as we havent had a new manager since all but one or 2 of them have been there.
Martinez was always favourite in kenwrights eyes. But the worries about him from the fans made him doubt himself. As such we interviewed 5 other people (3 inside, Pereira & Ragnick) but it was always Martinez' to lose. Compo for him ended up being £1.5million

The Mail
Weir is heading to manage Sheff Utd

The Star
Turns out Fers knee is sound and the £8.6m deal will be resurrected
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Mick 1995 on June 09, 2013, 04:32:17 PM
I guess you feel the norwegian league is poor aswell. Ask the mighty England U21's what they think about Norway   ;)

yeah, most people think all the Scandinavian and Danish leagues are piss poor. The ability to cobble together a good national side doesnt stop that being the truth
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Eddie on June 09, 2013, 04:33:37 PM
I guess you feel the norwegian league is poor aswell. Ask the mighty England U21's what they think about Norway   ;)

In the grand scheme of things, yes, it is. Haha England and England U21 are shit...how they went 9 games without conceding i'll never know. Hey USA drew with England in the 2010 World Cup...does that mean the MLS is on a par with the Premiership?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Polledreng on June 09, 2013, 04:37:36 PM
In the grand scheme of things, yes, it is. Haha England and England U21 are shit...how they went 9 games without conceding i'll never know. Hey USA drew with England in the 2010 World Cup...does that mean the MLS is on a par with the Premiership?
No because PL is full of players from outside England unlike the Norwegian and Danish League. It's a money thing.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Eddie on June 09, 2013, 04:42:15 PM
No because PL is full of players from outside England unlike the Norwegian and Danish League. It's a money thing.

Oh and if the PL never had its riches everyone would flock to the Scandinavian leagues? No. They're poor leagues mate. Just because some lad scored 20 goals in one of them doesn't make him a top player.

However Zodiac mentioned he was a good player regardless of that which I'm willing to accept because I've never seen him play.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Polledreng on June 09, 2013, 04:45:34 PM
yeah, most people think all the Scandinavian and Danish leagues are piss poor. The ability to cobble together a good national side doesnt stop that being the truth
Still FCK managed to beat United in Cl and Aalborg got a decent 2-2 draw at United. But I agree that the leagues aren't as good as the national teams, simply because of money. The best players leave the cuontry for money- That doesn't mean there isn't talent in Norway or Denmark. Right now Okore from Nordsjælland (turned down Chelsea in January) and Cornelius from FCK could be great buys. But no they are from a shit league so better pay 3 times the prices for some raised in England
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Mick 1995 on June 09, 2013, 04:55:34 PM
You're very wrong about this.

Nobody us denying northern European countries can produce talent. What they're saying us the leagues are shit, so doing well there doesn't make you good.

Moving to a good league and doing well there makes you good.

In the same way that a team beating another doesn't reflect on the respective leagues.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 09, 2013, 05:08:01 PM
Don't see how anyone can think spending 6.5 million on a 29 yr old striker who is only half decent is a good idea.

I also seem to remember Martinez being interested in Anichebe so I don't he'd bring in a similar type of player for such big money.

If we buy a striker it has to be someone who will push us on or have the potential to do so. I would say Loic Remy but he's a rapist so that's a no go.


Haha he isn't till proven pal!. But your right, why spend £6.5m on Kone, who is a good player mind, who's verging on 30, he may even be 30 now, when there's players out there like Remy who as a £6m release clause in his contract?!.

Yeah he's on £80k a week but if he's so desperate to stay in prem then surely we could offer him 65-70 grand a week and he'd be happy with it, cos on footballing ability, he's worth it. He'd be ideal for us, can definitely finish and as pace to burn, which we lack!.

Being linked to Moses of Chelsea this morning, he'd be another good signing for us, but not at £10m!.

But that's what Martinez should be looking at, players with good technical ability and pace. Pace is what we lack and what could make the difference to us next season, having pace on the break and better ability in the final third could be the difference from drawing games and winning them, cos IMO, them record draws we had last season cost us a serious go at CL football!.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 09, 2013, 05:11:39 PM
There must be strikers out there around 25 years of age or lower. Unfortunately, signing players at Everton on decent money with no re-sale value isn't an option to us.

I still like the look of Wilfied Bony, 24 years of age and looks a goalscorer. Andreas Cornelius too I've already mentioned, 20 years old and just topped the scoring charts for Copenhagen in Denmark.

We can't be spending 6 million+ on Kone that would be silly. He's not that good either.


Like your shouts and Bony would be brilliant but too expensive, think he's valued at £12m or more?!. Finnbogason, who came behind Bony in the scoring charts in Holland, would be another good shout, heard he's valued around £6m or so?!.

But your right, the likes of Cornelius & Finnbogason at 5 and 6 million are the kind of players we should be looking at and taking the risk on, as there young and seem to be up and coming talents that could become very good players and have big sell on value?!.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 09, 2013, 05:18:49 PM
Round up of today's gossip:
Mirror
We're after Moses and McArthur, Mcmanaman McCarthy, Ramis & Kone potential targets.

The Sun
Fellaini has told Kenwright he doesn't want to leave and Martinez thinks he will stay. They confirm nobody has expressed an interest never mid put a bid in.
Liverpool are going to try and "grab" Kone from "under our noses".

Express
We have staked an interest in Abdisalam Ibrahim. Arsenal still favourites to land him.

Goal.com
Jags says nobody knows what they're meant to be doing/thinking as we haven't had a new manager since all but one or 2 of them have been there.
Martinez was always favourite in kenwrights eyes. But the worries about him from the fans made him doubt himself. As such we interviewed 5 other people (3 inside, Pereira & Ragnick) but it was always Martinez' to lose. Compo for him ended up being £1.5million

The Mail
Weir is heading to manage Sheff Utd

The Star
Turns out Fers knee is sound and the £8.6m deal will be resurrected


There was never fuck all wrong with him in first place!. Just Everton penny pinching, which is understandable with our finances, we tried to find a loopwhole with his knee and it backfired!.

Ive had the same injury as Fer, i did it after i snapped my ACL and when they replace it, your ACL and meniscus are stronger than before!. And the theory his scar tissue was a problem is utter shite!. Like i say, they tried finding a loopwhole in the deal with his knee to get the down payments lower!.

Would love him at the club as he's quality but would Martinez want him?. And do we necessarily need him IF Felli is staying?!.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Thornton_19 on June 09, 2013, 05:29:41 PM

There was never fuck all wrong with him in first place!. Just Everton penny pinching, which is understandable with our finances, we tried to find a loopwhole with his knee and it backfired!.

Ive had the same injury as Fer, i did it after i snapped my ACL and when they replace it, your ACL and meniscus are stronger than before!. And the theory his scar tissue was a problem is utter shite!. Like i say, they tried finding a loopwhole in the deal with his knee to get the down payments lower!.

Would love him at the club as he's quality but would Martinez want him?. And do we necessarily need him IF Felli is staying?!.


I always thought the Fer thing was because of his upcoming trial for sleeping with an underage girl. I assume the knee thing was just a politeness if you will to try keep it out of the public eye as much.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Eddie on June 09, 2013, 05:45:37 PM

There was never fuck all wrong with him in first place!. Just Everton penny pinching, which is understandable with our finances, we tried to find a loopwhole with his knee and it backfired!.

Ive had the same injury as Fer, i did it after i snapped my ACL and when they replace it, your ACL and meniscus are stronger than before!. And the theory his scar tissue was a problem is utter shite!. Like i say, they tried finding a loopwhole in the deal with his knee to get the down payments lower!.

Would love him at the club as he's quality but would Martinez want him?. And do we necessarily need him IF Felli is staying?!.

If the reports we're back in for him are true then that does prove we didn't think his knee problem was actually a problem.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Polledreng on June 09, 2013, 06:04:50 PM
Oh and if the PL never had its riches everyone would flock to the Scandinavian leagues? No. They're poor leagues mate. Just because some lad scored 20 goals in one of them doesn't make him a top player.

However Zodiac mentioned he was a good player regardless of that which I'm willing to accept because I've never seen him play.
that's not what I'm saying. I've never said people would come to scandinavia. At the moment there are more than 50 danish players playing outside Denmark- How many english players are playing abroad?  What I was trying to tell you was that I found I rather odd you compared him to a shit player when you haven't seen him play. I've seen him play more than 20 times that was why I gave my view on him. He is a real talent - not because he is danish - english or norwegian - but because he is a great footballer - big tall and very skillfull.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Polledreng on June 09, 2013, 06:08:26 PM
You're very wrong about this.

Nobody us denying northern European countries can produce talent. What they're saying us the leagues are shit, so doing well there doesn't make you good.

Moving to a good league and doing well there makes you good.

In the same way that a team beating another doesn't reflect on the respective leagues.
You didn't - but Eddie wrote him off without having seen him. That's what I found weird. Like the people in the manager thread saying that the portugues league were crap and a 2 team league (Would that make the PL a 3 team league because of the arabs - if it wasn't for the money they put in the PL would have been 2 teams league aswell with only United and Chelsea winning it)  forgetting that Everton were knocked out by Sporting, and Portugal ranking 6th in the club ranking just behind italy and infront of France etc.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Evertonian in NC on June 09, 2013, 06:17:39 PM
People rightly say that we can't outbid everyone else for "can't miss" striker options.  I also tend to agree with those saying that 5M+ for an older guy who's likely not a difference maker...not likely a great use of resources.

So, what option does that leave other than to take some chances on lightning in a bottle?  Find undervalued resources, because other top flight squads have similar dismissive opinions re Scandanavian leagues.  That seems to be the best roll of the dice to me.  Not talking about this one guy in particular (who I have NOT seen play), but rather the general concept.

Otherwise, what I see is people saying we need a young, low-risk striker that's a clear upgrade over Jelavic and Anichebe.  Oh, and budget friendly too.  Yes, and I would like Emily Haines to show up at my front door with two tickets to a remote island in hand.  About equally likely,
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Eddie on June 09, 2013, 06:31:26 PM
Polledreng, I suggest you read all my posts before going off on one.

Not once did I compare him to Sean Dundee. I've explained more than once I've never seen him play, so cannot comment on his ability. Zodiacs post I was referring to said nothing about him except he scored 20 goals in a shit league. Sean Dundee done something similar, hence the reference to the SIGNING.

Zodiac has since pointed out he's actually a decent player regardless of his scoring record. As I've already said I'm not willing to dispute that as I've never seen him play, so have no opinion on him.

Doesn't the fact there are more than 50 Danish players playing outside the Danish league speak volumes about it? Not many English players move abroad because there's no need to, they're already playing in the best league in the world.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Grae on June 09, 2013, 07:05:54 PM
Not many English players move abroad because there's no need to, they're already playing in the best league in the world.

I don't think that is the only reason to be fair, although it most likely contributes. How many teams could afford the top English players? And would they want them, given they would not represent value for money, compared to buying players from on the continent.

As said, I don't disagree that your point is a contributing factor, but in my opinion, I would believe it is a minor one.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: KingdingalingNL on June 09, 2013, 07:09:20 PM

There was never fuck all wrong with him in first place!. Just Everton penny pinching, which is understandable with our finances, we tried to find a loopwhole with his knee and it backfired!.

Ive had the same injury as Fer, i did it after i snapped my ACL and when they replace it, your ACL and meniscus are stronger than before!. And the theory his scar tissue was a problem is utter shite!. Like i say, they tried finding a loopwhole in the deal with his knee to get the down payments lower!.

Would love him at the club as he's quality but would Martinez want him?. And do we necessarily need him IF Felli is staying?!.

Yes there was, he had just had an operation and hadn't played much. He was still on the mend and his knee was sore after playing/training, also it was visible on the x-rays that it was not fully recovered. Fer even said this himself in the Dutch media, he was honest and said Everton were doing what was right and didn't blame them.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: marky v on June 09, 2013, 07:31:02 PM
Polledreng, I suggest you read all my posts before going off on one.

Not once did I compare him to Sean Dundee. I've explained more than once I've never seen him play, so cannot comment on his ability. Zodiacs post I was referring to said nothing about him except he scored 20 goals in a shit league. Sean Dundee done something similar, hence the reference to the SIGNING.

Zodiac has since pointed out he's actually a decent player regardless of his scoring record. As I've already said I'm not willing to dispute that as I've never seen him play, so have no opinion on him.

Doesn't the fact there are more than 50 Danish players playing outside the Danish league speak volumes about it? Not many English players move abroad because there's no need to, they're already playing in the best league in the world.

The average premiership wage being £30k a week helps with the lack of movement
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 09, 2013, 08:42:32 PM
Yes there was, he had just had an operation and hadn't played much. He was still on the mend and his knee was sore after playing/training, also it was visible on the x-rays that it was not fully recovered. Fer even said this himself in the Dutch media, he was honest and said Everton were doing what was right and didn't blame them.


Got injured in either august, september of last year whilst on international duty and only damaged his meniscus and would be out for a maximum of a month and half tops!.

So give him a month to recuperate, get fit, that would be november, beginning of december time id imagine, so come end of Jan he'd of been match fit and there should of been no hiccups with his medical, meniscus or scar tissue!.

At the end of the day, we tried it on about is medical so we wasn't paying so much upfront so we would have more funds to make other possible signings at that late stage in the window!.

If it was the case that he wasn't 100% fit and still had some jip with his knee, then why the fuck was we going through the process of even trying to sign him if there was that possibility of him failing any medical?.

And if we do go back for him in the summer, then it just shows ya that we didn't have much concerns about his knee!.

Like someone as said previously, maybe we was making up excuses due to him being involved in a serious court case to do with under age sex i think it was?!.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Silas on June 09, 2013, 09:01:31 PM

Got injured in either august, september of last year whilst on international duty and only damaged his meniscus and would be out for a maximum of a month and half tops!.

So give him a month to recuperate, get fit, that would be november, beginning of december time id imagine, so come end of Jan he'd of been match fit and there should of been no hiccups with his medical, meniscus or scar tissue!.

At the end of the day, we tried it on about is medical so we wasn't paying so much upfront so we would have more funds to make other possible signings at that late stage in the window!.

If it was the case that he wasn't 100% fit and still had some jip with his knee, then why the fuck was we going through the process of even trying to sign him if there was that possibility of him failing any medical?.

And if we do go back for him in the summer, then it just shows ya that we didn't have much concerns about his knee!.

Like someone as said previously, maybe we was making up excuses due to him being involved in a serious court case to do with under age sex i think it was?!.

No it shows that we were cautious, he has played since and appears ok so we are going back for him more confident in paying a fee.  Neither Everton, Fer or Twente said he failed a medical, just that they had enough concerns to not want to make a big payment up front which considering our limited funds makes sense. 
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: KingdingalingNL on June 09, 2013, 09:31:45 PM

Got injured in either august, september of last year whilst on international duty and only damaged his meniscus and would be out for a maximum of a month and half tops!.

So give him a month to recuperate, get fit, that would be november, beginning of december time id imagine, so come end of Jan he'd of been match fit and there should of been no hiccups with his medical, meniscus or scar tissue!.

At the end of the day, we tried it on about is medical so we wasn't paying so much upfront so we would have more funds to make other possible signings at that late stage in the window!.

If it was the case that he wasn't 100% fit and still had some jip with his knee, then why the fuck was we going through the process of even trying to sign him if there was that possibility of him failing any medical?.

And if we do go back for him in the summer, then it just shows ya that we didn't have much concerns about his knee!.

Like someone as said previously, maybe we was making up excuses due to him being involved in a serious court case to do with under age sex i think it was?!.

I live in Holland and know the full story was also the one who told you all about the court case. Don't base everything on what you think against someone basing them on facts.

You may well if had what you think was the same, but are you as big as Fer? Also playing sport at a professional level?? There is a big difference. What Everton did was to make sure that they were covered for if his knee did not recover which was what was uncertain at the time, so as much as I wished we did sign him as I am a fan of the player and think he will get better if all goes well we did need to be cautious, the lad himself also said the same as he knew how serious his knee was at the time.( I am sure that clubs insure players for injuries so Fer who still had scarring on his knee which was still painful after training could not get insurance, hence why Everton tried to do something with the transfer fee?) I could be wrong?

My friend had the same injury and he played at Hoofdklasse level also a big lad and didn't recover enough to play at the same level, has also had to change the way he now plays. It is just a case of how the recovery goes, granted Fer would probably get better physio and help with recovery, but I still do think it was the best option at the time.

You can also ask Fastlane at the time he was not playing every game and hadn't played a while before we tried to get him, so you could not really see how he was affected by the knee op.

I really do think that if we do go back in for him that it is because he has shown his knee has recovered in such a way that we are not spending a lot of money that we all know do not have much of on a player who was not 100% fit at the time.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: American Evertonian on June 09, 2013, 11:14:09 PM
Time to add a new name to our "potential" transfer targets...Eduardo Salvio. Argentinian born winger playing at Benfica.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/8767110/Transfer-news-Benfica-winger-Eduardo-Salvio-attracts-Premier-League-interest (http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/8767110/Transfer-news-Benfica-winger-Eduardo-Salvio-attracts-Premier-League-interest)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Azz on June 09, 2013, 11:20:20 PM
Quote
Speculation has linked Everton with a move for the Argentina international

Ermmm it's literally the only article on the internet in which his name and Everton are found together. 
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: KingdingalingNL on June 09, 2013, 11:29:30 PM
Time to add a new name to our "potential" transfer targets...Eduardo Salvio. Argentinian born winger playing at Benfica.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/8767110/Transfer-news-Benfica-winger-Eduardo-Salvio-attracts-Premier-League-interest (http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/8767110/Transfer-news-Benfica-winger-Eduardo-Salvio-attracts-Premier-League-interest)

Be good if it's true, but he has had a good season as stated so surely be out of our price range? But who knows? Maybe bill has some extra cash lying around. Hopefully there is some  truth in this, would be good to see we are looking at this type of players.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on June 10, 2013, 12:08:44 AM
Be good if it's true, but he has had a good season as stated so surely be out of our price range? But who knows? Maybe bill has some extra cash lying around. Hopefully there is some  truth in this, would be good to see we are looking at this type of players.

My guess would be somewhere in the £15M range. But do we really want another right winger? I know he can play anywhere in advanced midfield, but unless Mirallas is going to be playing as a true striker, that position is pretty much taken.
Title: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on June 10, 2013, 12:43:57 AM
Is there an official transfer rumours thread? Can't be doing with all this unofficial nonsense.

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Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Zodiak on June 10, 2013, 12:46:55 AM
My guess would be somewhere in the £15M range. But do we really want another right winger? I know he can play anywhere in advanced midfield, but unless Mirallas is going to be playing as a true striker, that position is pretty much taken.
Personally, I thought Mirallas' best performances last season were on the left, not the right.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Polledreng on June 10, 2013, 12:57:14 AM
I don't think that is the only reason to be fair, although it most likely contributes. How many teams could afford the top English players? And would they want them, given they would not represent value for money, compared to buying players from on the continent.

As said, I don't disagree that your point is a contributing factor, but in my opinion, I would believe it is a minor one.
great post. And welcome
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 10, 2013, 03:31:13 AM
I live in Holland and know the full story was also the one who told you all about the court case. Don't base everything on what you think against someone basing them on facts.

You may well if had what you think was the same, but are you as big as Fer? Also playing sport at a professional level?? There is a big difference. What Everton did was to make sure that they were covered for if his knee did not recover which was what was uncertain at the time, so as much as I wished we did sign him as I am a fan of the player and think he will get better if all goes well we did need to be cautious, the lad himself also said the same as he knew how serious his knee was at the time.( I am sure that clubs insure players for injuries so Fer who still had scarring on his knee which was still painful after training could not get insurance, hence why Everton tried to do something with the transfer fee?) I could be wrong?

My friend had the same injury and he played at Hoofdklasse level also a big lad and didn't recover enough to play at the same level, has also had to change the way he now plays. It is just a case of how the recovery goes, granted Fer would probably get better physio and help with recovery, but I still do think it was the best option at the time.

You can also ask Fastlane at the time he was not playing every game and hadn't played a while before we tried to get him, so you could not really see how he was affected by the knee op.

I really do think that if we do go back in for him that it is because he has shown his knee has recovered in such a way that we are not spending a lot of money that we all know do not have much of on a player who was not 100% fit at the time.


Mate, scar tissue doesn't cause you any jip, or if it does your one soft cunt!. Scar tissue is nothing compared to actually injuring your ACL or meniscus, believe me!.

And i know footballers get better treatment and access to equipment i cant and can recover a hell of a lot quicker than i can!. But to try and say his injury was different to mine is bollocks. If you damage it, ya damage it, you strain it or tare it, you strain it or tear, end of!. Have you ever had the injury to even judge the replications of it, or how long the rehab takes?!.

And Silas says he didn't fail his medical and we was being cautious, well if a problem comes up with his medical then he hasn't got a clean bill of health and he's failed the medical, am i right or am i wrong?.

At the end of the day summat came up that was enough for us to try it on and change the deal and it fell through and he's kept on playing for the rest of the season with no problems even though Elstone said he'd like to know how many games he would get through from Jan until the end of the season as if to say he will break down and he hasn't and he's still playing football for Dutch u-21's and doing well after another long season, so his knee cant be that fucked aye?!!.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: KingdingalingNL on June 10, 2013, 03:58:48 AM

Mate, scar tissue doesn't cause you any jip, or if it does your one soft cunt!. Scar tissue is nothing compared to actually injuring your ACL or meniscus, believe me!.

And i know footballers get better treatment and access to equipment i cant and can recover a hell of a lot quicker than i can!. But to try and say his injury was different to mine is bollocks. If you damage it, ya damage it, you strain it or tare it, you strain it or tear, end of!. Have you ever had the injury to even judge the replications of it, or how long the rehab takes?!.

And Silas says he didn't fail his medical and we was being cautious, well if a problem comes up with his medical then he hasn't got a clean bill of health and he's failed the medical, am i right or am i wrong?.

At the end of the day summat came up that was enough for us to try it on and change the deal and it fell through and he's kept on playing for the rest of the season with no problems even though Elstone said he'd like to know how many games he would get through from Jan until the end of the season as if to say he will break down and he hasn't and he's still playing football for Dutch u-21's and doing well after another long season, so his knee cant be that fucked aye?!!.

The tissue on the inside of his knee hadn't healed yet and you think it is normal that the club was not worried?? This was only visible on the X-rays part of the medical. Has anyone wanted to pay 8.6 million for you and give you a medical to a professional footballer standard? I seriously doubt it! The man himself said it in an interview. I have done both ankles in playing football my right ankle healed faster and better than my left so all injuries do not heal the same.

Point is it does not matter if you had the same you are not being tested the way a professional footballer does, your knee is not getting battered the way a big lad like Fer would playing at a high level. He was probably walking around like you did when you think you were fully recovered weeks before you such is the treatment, but still it wouldn't stand up to what he would have to do on a football pitch.

But anyway the man himself said what the problem was and agreed with the manner of how Everton responded to the medical! And everybody knows he did not fail his medical but the doctors made note that his knee was not fully recovered. Demba Ba would also pass a medical but the signs are there that it is unknown how long his knee will last at the top level of football.

I am not trying to be a smart arse or anything else, I am just pointing out there was no more to him not signing than the knee problem. If the scarring in his knee was fully healed it would have gone through also said by the player himself ( he even admitted that it still hurt)
Your past medical record proves nothing in this situation.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 10, 2013, 05:06:51 AM
The tissue on the inside of his knee hadn't healed yet and you think it is normal that the club was not worried?? This was only visible on the X-rays part of the medical. Has anyone wanted to pay 8.6 million for you and give you a medical to a professional footballer standard? I seriously doubt it! The man himself said it in an interview. I have done both ankles in playing football my right ankle healed faster and better than my left so all injuries do not heal the same.

Point is it does not matter if you had the same you are not being tested the way a professional footballer does, your knee is not getting battered the way a big lad like Fer would playing at a high level. He was probably walking around like you did when you think you were fully recovered weeks before you such is the treatment, but still it wouldn't stand up to what he would have to do on a football pitch.

But anyway the man himself said what the problem was and agreed with the manner of how Everton responded to the medical! And everybody knows he did not fail his medical but the doctors made note that his knee was not fully recovered. Demba Ba would also pass a medical but the signs are there that it is unknown how long his knee will last at the top level of football.

I am not trying to be a smart arse or anything else, I am just pointing out there was no more to him not signing than the knee problem. If the scarring in his knee was fully healed it would have gone through also said by the player himself ( he even admitted that it still hurt)
Your past medical record proves nothing in this situation.


Point is, you've got your theory as to why it didn't happen, and so have i!. And whats it gonna say about us fucking about with the medical IF we signed him this summer?!.

And believe me mate, i think you get tougher tackling in sunday league/semi-pro level than you do at professional level!.

Im not saying im as fit as him or was, but ive had the injury, and bad at that, my meniscus was detached from the bone!. What did Fer have, damage?. Must of been bad though cos he's a big lad and fitter than me!.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: cantoffee on June 10, 2013, 06:54:23 AM
?!.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Thornton_19 on June 10, 2013, 06:57:45 AM
Time to add a new name to our "potential" transfer targets...Eduardo Salvio. Argentinian born winger playing at Benfica.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/8767110/Transfer-news-Benfica-winger-Eduardo-Salvio-attracts-Premier-League-interest (http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/8767110/Transfer-news-Benfica-winger-Eduardo-Salvio-attracts-Premier-League-interest)

Had him got Everton on Football manager, paid like 25 mill for him a few years in and he was dogshit for 18 months so i sold him for a cut of the price.

Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Bluedylan on June 10, 2013, 07:02:17 AM
I've heard a strong suggestion that BK was actually not willing to release the funds for Fer's signing in January, because of the uncertainty surrounding Moyes's contract. Given that he wasn't sure if Moyes was staying, by that logic, BK didn't want to spend potential funds that he could offer to a new manager, if Moyes left.

Whether that is true is obviously open to debate, but it makes sense I think.

Either way, I think Fer looks an excellent prospect in the couple of games I've watched him, and from other people's information - but I don't think he would've made the difference between 4th and 6th. Negredo on the other hand, would have....
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Bluedylan on June 10, 2013, 07:04:08 AM
Had him got Everton on Football manager, paid like 25 mill for him a few years in and he was dogshit for 18 months so i sold him for a cut of the price.



Yeah I had a similarly negative experience with Mr. Salvio on FM.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Alanvideo on June 10, 2013, 05:29:00 PM
Osman going to the shite ?  lolol
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-fc-transfer-rumour-mill-4283405 (http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-fc-transfer-rumour-mill-4283405)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on June 10, 2013, 06:10:00 PM
Osman going to the shite ?  lolol
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-fc-transfer-rumour-mill-4283405 (http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-fc-transfer-rumour-mill-4283405)

Eh?

Hopefully they get Kone though.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Mick 1995 on June 10, 2013, 06:16:00 PM
Nothing in that article suggests Osman going to Liverpool does it?

There is a picture with Osman and Kone on it saying that Kone is being chased by Liverpool. But that's about it
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on June 10, 2013, 06:30:55 PM
It was just a joke, I think?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 10, 2013, 06:40:38 PM
It was just a joke, I think?

Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Mick 1995 on June 10, 2013, 06:50:06 PM
ahhh. Ok, thought i was missing something then
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: School of Science on June 10, 2013, 07:01:50 PM
More on this Argentinian winger ( apologies if this has been already done )

EDUARDO SALVIO KEEN ON EVERTON MOVE

Eduardo Salvio has starred for Benfica

ABOVE: Eduardo Salvio has starred for Benfica

after a big season it is normal that significant clubs will be interested

Eduardo Salvio
10th June 2013
By Jack Wilson

BENFICA wideman Eduardo Salvio is open to a move to Everton, according to his agent.
 
Salvio enjoyed an impressive season with the Portuguese giants, netting 11 goals in 42 game from the wing.

 The 22-year-old Argentine was part of the Benfica team that reached the Europa League final and Everton were rumoured to be interested in bringing him to Goodison Park.

 And agent Agustin Jimenez suggested that it could be a deal they would be interested in discussing
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Alanvideo on June 10, 2013, 07:15:12 PM
It was just a joke, I think?
.............hence the  lolol
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: School of Science on June 10, 2013, 07:24:51 PM
Eduardo Salvio, video clip....If only

EDUARDO SALVIO | Goals, Skills, Assists | Benfica | 2012/2013 (HD) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX5iE8d7hv8&feature=player_embedded#ws)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Polledreng on June 10, 2013, 07:35:23 PM
.............hence the  lolol
would have been a  :'(  if it was true
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Thom on June 10, 2013, 07:49:02 PM
?!.

lolol

Got to be the most annoying use of punctuation I've ever seen.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: bluenose27 on June 11, 2013, 12:23:54 AM
Seen it all now football fans who think they are doctors and know all about sports injuries without any evidence whatsoever.
The silly season has arrived!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Trowel on June 11, 2013, 03:06:34 AM
Twitter gossip is that Abidal has had a medical at Monaco, which makes Evra less likely to leave United, which makes Baines leaving less likely...
Title: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 11, 2013, 02:40:53 PM
Everton FC Transfer Rumour Mill: Blues eye City's Ibrahim, Madrid's Cheryshev linked, Martinez insists Fellaini to stay - Liverpool Echo (http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-fc-transfer-rumour-mill-4291144?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: gwells on June 11, 2013, 03:29:26 PM
From what I have seen of Fer I would buy him irrespective of what Fellani does I think he would be a great addition to the midfield and could see both Fer and Felli playing together. I think Fer is an exciting and skillful player and the fans would love him.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blue slug on June 11, 2013, 03:44:02 PM
If fellaini was to leave for say the circa £24m being touted we would be able to get Fer and McCarthy in and still be left with around £8-10m for another winger/forward and those two would probs be on less combined wages than fellainis
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Trowel on June 11, 2013, 07:36:04 PM
I'd like to see Martinez have a go at signing Josh McEachran on a permanent. He tried to get him on loan at Wigan a couple of years back but he wasn't allowed to leave at the time. He's since made noises about how Chelsea stalled his career and he wasn't getting any game time, but sounds like he did well out at Boro last season. Should be starting for the U21s tonight. Wouldn't be cheap and there's a chance Mourinho might now want to integrate him into their first team squad, but the sort of long-term transfer we should be looking at.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 11, 2013, 07:37:52 PM
I'd like to see Martinez have a go at signing Josh McEachran on a permanent. He tried to get him on loan at Wigan a couple of years back but he wasn't allowed to leave at the time. He's since made noises about how Chelsea stalled his career and he wasn't getting any game time, but sounds like he did well out at Boro last season. Should be starting for the U21s tonight. Wouldn't be cheap and there's a chance Mourinho might now want to integrate him into their first team squad, but the sort of long-term transfer we should be looking at.

Chelsea will prob keep him and not play him that much to full their quota of English players.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Verm on June 11, 2013, 07:45:46 PM
Chelsea will prob keep him and not play him that much to full their quota of English players.

Terry, Lampard, Cole, Bertrand, Cahill.

There's 5 'home grown' players, they don't need him.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: School of Science on June 11, 2013, 08:22:59 PM
I'd like to see Martinez have a go at signing Josh McEachran on a permanent. He tried to get him on loan at Wigan a couple of years back but he wasn't allowed to leave at the time. He's since made noises about how Chelsea stalled his career and he wasn't getting any game time, but sounds like he did well out at Boro last season. Should be starting for the U21s tonight. Wouldn't be cheap and there's a chance Mourinho might now want to integrate him into their first team squad, but the sort of long-term transfer we should be looking at.

Do we know for sure if Chelsea are keeping Lukaku ?. If not I would swap Fellaini for him and with the surplus cash buy Fer outright, actually just thinking out loud :)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: steve81 on June 11, 2013, 08:23:51 PM
http://www.fanatix.com/news/arsenal-and-everton-on-alert-as-serbian-star-wants-a-move-to-the-premier-league/122847/ (http://www.fanatix.com/news/arsenal-and-everton-on-alert-as-serbian-star-wants-a-move-to-the-premier-league/122847/)
Arsenal and Everton on alert as Serbian star wants a move to the Premier League
Posted by
Tom Seymour
11th June 2013, 11:06am   
Tadic has admitted he could leave Twente this summer. FC Twente forward Dusan Tadic has put interested clubs Arsenal and...

Tadic has admitted he could leave Twente this summer.

FC Twente forward Dusan Tadic has put interested clubs Arsenal and Everton on alert after revealing he could leave the Netherlands this summer, reports talkSPORT.

The Serbia international has been in sparkling form in the Eredivisie in 2012/13 and as a result has drawn the attention of several top European clubs.

Despite having only joined from fellow Dutch side FC Groningen for £6.8m last summer, Twente’s failure to qualify for either the Champions League or Europa League has made Tadic consider a move away.

“I feel good at FC Twente, but I am a professional and if a good offer for me and the club arrives, then we have to go to the table,” the 24-year-old told De Telegraaf.

“There is a lot of interest, but so far I have left everything to my manager. If there is something concrete, he will inform me.”

It is Tadic’s form in the Netherlands that has caught the eye of the likes of Arsenal and Everton, with the forward having played 51 matches for his club this campaign and scoring 16 goals.

The Serb, who mostly plays on the right-wing but is equally adept as a striker or attacking midfielder, also provided the most assists in the Dutch league last season with an impressive 15.

Tadic played every match of Twente’s Europa League adventure as well and the club’s sixth-placed finish this season and failure to qualify for Europe could count against the Eredivisie side.

According to football website transfermarkt.com if the Gunners or the Toffees want to land the forward then they will need to fork out 10m euros.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Azz on June 11, 2013, 08:48:55 PM
PSV Eindhoven have confirmed 'real' interest in Ola Toivonen, amid claims that Norwich have agreed a fee for him. http://t.co/FqSrv4t2eK (http://t.co/FqSrv4t2eK)

It's going to be a long summer.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on June 11, 2013, 10:18:01 PM
Another name for the list: Norway midfielder Stefan Johansen. 22, can play anywhere through central midfield, though he seems to be in more of a defensive/holding role this season. Still plays in Norway for Stromsgodset, so shouldn't be too expensive. Massive risk, though, for the same reason, but he's apparently been performing well for the U21s in Israel.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2339496/Manchester-United-Manchester-City-Chelsea-Arsenal-scouting-Under-21-championship.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2339496/Manchester-United-Manchester-City-Chelsea-Arsenal-scouting-Under-21-championship.html)

And apparently Whelan is asking for £14M for McCarthy...
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: griff969 on June 11, 2013, 10:24:11 PM


And apparently Whelan is asking for £14M for McCarthy...

Hang on he loves Roberto, that is hardly a friends and family discount!!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blue slug on June 11, 2013, 10:26:00 PM
Whelan is a complete senile turd
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on June 12, 2013, 02:03:17 AM
PSV Eindhoven have confirmed 'real' interest in Ola Toivonen, amid claims that Norwich have agreed a fee for him. http://t.co/FqSrv4t2eK (http://t.co/FqSrv4t2eK)

It's going to be a long summer.

What because another team have signed someone? Shit pass the fucking rope, other teams are buying players
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jonny on June 12, 2013, 04:25:21 AM
Ha!

Antonio Garçia ‏@AGFutbolNews 8m
1/2 I can CONFIRM, that #EFC chairman Bill Kenwright has entrusted new manager Roberto Martinez with an uncharacteristic budget of £30M!

Antonio Garçia ‏@AGFutbolNews 7m
2/2 My source is yet to establish exactly who Martinez will look to bring in with this money. Who would #EFC fans realistically like to see?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Bigjmill on June 12, 2013, 04:30:31 AM
Ha!

Antonio Garçia ‏@AGFutbolNews 8m
1/2 I can CONFIRM, that #EFC chairman Bill Kenwright has entrusted new manager Roberto Martinez with an uncharacteristic budget of £30M!

Antonio Garçia ‏@AGFutbolNews 7m
2/2 My source is yet to establish exactly who Martinez will look to bring in with this money. Who would #EFC fans realistically like to see?

is this per player?
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 12, 2013, 04:36:25 AM
Ha!

Antonio Garçia ‏@AGFutbolNews 8m
1/2 I can CONFIRM, that #EFC chairman Bill Kenwright has entrusted new manager Roberto Martinez with an uncharacteristic budget of £30M!

Antonio Garçia ‏@AGFutbolNews 7m
2/2 My source is yet to establish exactly who Martinez will look to bring in with this money. Who would #EFC fans realistically like to see?
30m after fellaini and baines are sold seems about right
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on June 12, 2013, 04:52:31 AM
Over 30 years. it's what Moyes had.

Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Verm on June 12, 2013, 04:57:04 AM
The Mirror reporting Antolin Alcaraz will be Martinez' first signing and should be wrapped up by the end of this week.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 12, 2013, 04:58:40 AM
The Mirror reporting Antolin Alcaraz will be Martinez' first signing and should be wrapped up by the end of this week.
yay
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on June 12, 2013, 05:03:40 AM
The Mirror reporting Antolin Alcaraz will be Martinez' first signing and should be wrapped up by the end of this week.

Good experienced defender on a free. Good signing
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Verm on June 12, 2013, 05:04:24 AM
2 year deal they're saying.
Title: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 12, 2013, 05:05:56 AM
2 yr deal no cost... Back up (hopefully)
Looks like heitinga is going then so all in all prob decent business
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jonny on June 12, 2013, 05:08:44 AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-transfers-antolin-alcaraz-set-1946244 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-transfers-antolin-alcaraz-set-1946244)
Title: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on June 12, 2013, 05:10:33 AM
2 yr deal no cost... Back up (hopefully)
Looks like heitinga is going then so all in all prob decent business

I wouldent say it means Heitinga is going
Title: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: dangermouse on June 12, 2013, 05:12:13 AM
Ugh.... Defence wasn't exactly Wigans strong point...

Id rather not...
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Verm on June 12, 2013, 05:16:31 AM
Ugh.... Defence wasn't exactly Wigans strong point...

Id rather not...

One of Wigan's better defenders.

He wouldn't get much game time for us anyway and is certainly a worthwhile back-up, especially on a free.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Azz on June 12, 2013, 05:16:36 AM
No thanks Jeff.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on June 12, 2013, 05:26:23 AM
Better than kolo Toure?

Less wages that's for sure.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: bluestevie on June 12, 2013, 05:29:37 AM
Its a good deal tbf, get Alcaraz in for free, sell Heitinga and promote Duffy to third choice
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Verm on June 12, 2013, 05:33:36 AM
Its a good deal tbf, get Alcaraz in for free, sell Heitinga and promote Duffy to third choice

Duffy would still be 4th choice, we have Jagielka and Distin remember ;)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jonny on June 12, 2013, 05:39:39 AM
Didnt he get banned for 3 games for spitting on someone a while back?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Zodiak on June 12, 2013, 05:48:52 AM
Didnt he get banned for 3 games for spitting on someone a while back?
Yes he did the horrible scumbag.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on June 12, 2013, 12:35:45 PM
Its a good deal tbf, get Alcaraz in for free, sell Heitinga and promote Duffy to third choice

I don't think it promotes Duffy at all.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on June 12, 2013, 12:36:39 PM
Yes he did the horrible scumbag.

It's a term of endearment in Paraguay.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: christiffa25 on June 12, 2013, 02:20:18 PM
I don't think it promotes Duffy at all.

Nope and nor should it IMO. Duffy needs a loan for a season, if bringing alcaraz in for free alows for that, I'd be happy. Heitinga will move on so possibly need another too.

Heitinga - Out
Duffy - Out (loan)

Alcaraz - in (free)
Lescott - in
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Azz on June 12, 2013, 02:22:44 PM
We don't want 30 year old players!!!!
Title: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Silas on June 12, 2013, 02:23:40 PM
,Duffy doesn't need a loan he should be getting game time or moving on.  He's either good enough to be distins successor or not. I don't think he its but here deserves a chance to prove it either way

Sent from Mrs Cake's house
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Bigjmill on June 12, 2013, 02:54:27 PM
Wigan openly relied on alceraz to stay up. His injuries where massive in them going down

Not a bad free transfer to bulk up the squad
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on June 12, 2013, 03:21:10 PM
We don't want 30 year old players!!!!

Free, on a 2 year deal and at CB (where players play for longer) I don't think it's a problem.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on June 12, 2013, 03:23:46 PM
We don't want 30 year old players!!!!

good job you're not the manager, you would get rid of jags,osman,distin,howard,hibbert, pienaar
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Polledreng on June 12, 2013, 03:46:21 PM
Free, on a 2 year deal and at CB (where players play for longer) I don't think it's a problem.
this
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Ross on June 12, 2013, 04:06:19 PM
It's from the Mirror, the same paper thats had Baines leaving for £5m for the last two seasons.

It's probably the same hack who's been writing that that's decided it's going to happen.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on June 13, 2013, 04:35:39 AM
Apparently we're being linked in the German papers (though I can't find the original source) to Augsburg striker Sascha Mölders. 28, uncapped, scored 10 goals in 24 Bundesliga matches. Basically kept them up by being the only one who could score over a 2 month interval. Haven't seen a fee quoted, but it can't be much.

Would be a depth signing, and I just can't see it. He wouldn't start over Jelavic or Anichebe, would have little resale value, and just doesn't seem like a signing that a team at our level should be spending money on. Very much a German Stracqualursi, and I'd rather have the original back.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 13, 2013, 04:54:33 AM
Mirror saying we are gonna rival Arsenal for Ashley Williams and this will help Swansea drive up the price!bidding wars aint exactly our thing!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on June 13, 2013, 04:56:22 AM
Mirror saying we are gonna rival Arsenal for Ashley Williams and this will help Swansea drive up the price!bidding wars aint exactly our thing!

(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BD-7z0JCAAA1Orw.jpg:large)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 13, 2013, 05:14:52 AM
Mirror saying we are gonna rival Arsenal for Ashley Williams and this will help Swansea drive up the price!bidding wars aint exactly our thing!

 I've only just come across this, SS - soz' for repeating it.

 Addition

 We could actually milk Arsenal for Fellaini first, then Arsenal may think twice about forking out another £8m for Williams leaving us in the driving-seat.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on June 13, 2013, 05:22:15 AM
Mirror saying we are gonna rival Arsenal for Ashley Williams and this will help Swansea drive up the price!bidding aint exactly our thing!

fixed
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Analog Kid on June 13, 2013, 05:41:43 AM
Mirror saying we are gonna rival Arsenal for Ashley Williams and this will help Swansea drive up the price!bidding wars aint exactly our thing!

Weren't the shite interested in him back end of last season, but baulked at the 14m asking price thrown at them by Swansea?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on June 13, 2013, 05:44:39 AM
What Swansea players did Martinez manage?

Wouldent mind us going for Leon Britton tbh.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 13, 2013, 05:47:16 AM
Weren't the shite interested in him back end of last season, but baulked at the 14m asking price thrown at them by Swansea?

 I think the shite are still waiting in the wings - their bastard defence is a crock of bollox.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on June 13, 2013, 05:49:25 AM
What Swansea players did Martinez manage?

Wouldent mind us going for Leon Britton tbh.

I think the only players he bought that are still there are Rangel and Williams.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 13, 2013, 05:53:39 AM
 Rangel & Britton are both decent but 30 years of age.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: brap2 on June 13, 2013, 06:08:57 AM
After reading that interview, he talks a lot about getting players at the right time in their careers, this is even more true at Everton surely, I'd be surprised if he went for loads of 30 year olds. especially with his 30 million war chest  ;)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 13, 2013, 06:15:42 AM
After reading that interview, he talks a lot about getting players at the right time in their careers, this is even more true at Everton surely, I'd be surprised if he went for loads of 30 year olds. especially with his 30 million war chest  ;)

 What are we generally thinking - RM needs 5 players - a striker, two midfielders, a center-half, and a keeper? Maybe 6 or 7 if Fellaini and/or Baines leaves.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on June 13, 2013, 06:18:18 AM
What are we generally thinking - RM needs 5 players - a striker, two midfielders, a center-half, and a keeper? Maybe 6 or 7 if Fellaini and/or Baines leaves.

For our budget it will be very hard to improve the team. We just need to add some squad players who add some competition to the team. Its only really a striker that we really need to improve upon.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: brap2 on June 13, 2013, 06:23:09 AM
I'd love a winger, a striker, a cb, a goalie, depth all over and a win at anfield.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 13, 2013, 06:28:57 AM
For our budget it will be very hard to improve the team. We just need to add some squad players who add some competition to the team. Its only really a striker that we really need to improve upon.

 Tbh, I'd like to see at least 3. One a striker (as you say), a nippy little'ish (of smaller frame than Anichebe) finisher. Get rid of Johnnie and maybe get Williams. Get a holding midfielder to replace Gibson if some injuries resurface.

 If Britton (who you suggested) was 2 years younger he'd be a perfct replacement for Osman. Snodgrass (he's only 25) of Norwich isn't bad.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on June 13, 2013, 06:30:12 AM
Lucas Piazon might be worth a look.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 13, 2013, 06:34:53 AM
Lucas Piazon might be worth a look.

 Just done a quick google - he was a goal getter at Brazil youth level, still only 19 - he'd definitely be worth enquiring about.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on June 13, 2013, 06:40:31 AM
Just done a quick google - he was a goal getter at Brazil youth level, still only 19 - he'd definitely be worth enquiring about.

He wants a loan move as well http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/lucas-piazon-keen-for-premier-league-loan-8655908.html (http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/lucas-piazon-keen-for-premier-league-loan-8655908.html) though I guess West Brom might get first refusal seeing as Lukaku probably won't be going back?

He'd provide cover up front and on the wings.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: billbones80 on June 13, 2013, 06:57:37 AM
Hate the Daily Fail  :bonk: but:

"Martinez is favourite to win the battle for Kone and will consider a move for Chelsea forward Victor Moses depending on his budget at Goodison.
Striker Sascha Molders at Augsburg, plus Wigan's Antolin Alcaraz and James McCarthy are also under consideration."


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2340593/Arouna-Kone-Victor-Moses-Everton-targets.html#ixzz2W38I365A (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2340593/Arouna-Kone-Victor-Moses-Everton-targets.html#ixzz2W38I365A)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: American Evertonian on June 13, 2013, 07:02:05 AM
Didnt he get banned for 3 games for spitting on someone a while back?

Better than a Uruguayan's bite
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on June 13, 2013, 12:47:39 PM
Lucas Piazon might be worth a look.

Sounds like Jo MK2
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Juanito on June 13, 2013, 01:48:21 PM
We don't want 30 year old players!!!!

We signed Distin at 32 and he has been ok.
Title: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 13, 2013, 02:47:29 PM
Everton FC Transfer Rumour Mill: Martinez eyes Liverpool FC target Ashley Williams, Blues push for Kone, Fellaini eager on Arsenal, Bidwell to Bees - Liverpool Echo (http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-fc-transfer-rumour-mill-4307914)

Would rather lescott than Williams personally
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: dekko on June 13, 2013, 05:29:47 PM
Everton FC Transfer Rumour Mill: Martinez eyes Liverpool FC target Ashley Williams, Blues push for Kone, Fellaini eager on Arsenal, Bidwell to Bees - Liverpool Echo (http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-fc-transfer-rumour-mill-4307914)

Would rather lescott than Williams personally

Lescott will be 31 in a few months. Lets forget about him!! I much rather play Distin. Distin probably still has a good year left in him.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 13, 2013, 05:33:35 PM
Hate the Daily Fail  :bonk: but:

"Martinez is favourite to win the battle for Kone and will consider a move for Chelsea forward Victor Moses depending on his budget at Goodison.
Striker Sascha Molders at Augsburg, plus Wigan's Antolin Alcaraz and James McCarthy are also under consideration."


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2340593/Arouna-Kone-Victor-Moses-Everton-targets.html#ixzz2W38I365A (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2340593/Arouna-Kone-Victor-Moses-Everton-targets.html#ixzz2W38I365A)


 In a strange lateral way that link made me remember a goalkeeper to buy to take over from Tim Howard - Celtic's Fraser Forster - Due to the calibre of his performance, the Spanish media nicknamed Forster "La Gran Muralla" (The Great Wall)

 I've seen him a few times on the television (including the Barcelona match) and I reckon he's better than Tim.

 Celtic acquired Forster for £2m
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: sam of the south on June 13, 2013, 06:00:32 PM
Providing Heitinga and Fellaini leave and Martinez has those fees to add to his 'war chest', we could do with a striker, a winger, two centre-mids, a centre-back and re-sign Mucha.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Trublue on June 13, 2013, 06:03:32 PM
Am a bit worried about the age of players we are being liked with. We need to start to reduce the age of the squad or we'l have to repkace 7 or 8 players at once in a year or two. Maybe they are stop gaps while the academy players come through?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 13, 2013, 06:14:53 PM
Am a bit worried about the age of players we are being liked with. We need to start to reduce the age of the squad or we'l have to repkace 7 or 8 players at once in a year or two. Maybe they are stop gaps while the academy players come through?

 Aye, that is the thing.

 There's no disputing that up to this point all our reserve and junior levels seem to have been in good hands but of course how good are they, and how much potential have these lads got. I have every confidence in RM continuing our quality of professional tutoring and EFC to (even more so) become 'the club' that every youngster (and their parents) view us as the Eton College of football.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Bluenose 91 on June 13, 2013, 06:30:47 PM
I'll be devastated if we sign Ashley Williams.

He is utter dogshite.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 13, 2013, 06:38:45 PM
Was Williams the bloke that blunted our attack in the 0:0 snooze-fest that was Swanseas visit to GP this year? I remember being very impressed with one swans defender. Cant remember exactly who it was though...
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on June 13, 2013, 06:40:11 PM
I'll be devastated if we sign Ashley Williams.

He is utter dogshite.

Especially at the quoted fees!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 13, 2013, 06:41:22 PM
I'll be devastated if we sign Ashley Williams.

He is utter dogshite.

 Who would you rather we consider, fella'.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on June 13, 2013, 06:42:08 PM
Was Williams the bloke that blunted our attack in the 0:0 snooze-fest that was Swanseas visit to GP this year? I remember being very impressed with one swans defender. Cant remember exactly who it was though...

No it was Chico Flores who was incredible that day.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on June 13, 2013, 06:48:38 PM
No it was Chico Flores who was incredible that day.

Also they played 2 RBs to stop Baines/Pienaar, so it was basically a very defensive performance. It's always hard to tell how good a defender is when the team is set up like that.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 13, 2013, 06:53:48 PM
No it was Chico Flores who was incredible that day.

Sign him up!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 13, 2013, 06:59:21 PM
Also they played 2 RBs to stop Baines/Pienaar, so it was basically a very defensive performance. It's always hard to tell how good a defender is when the team is set up like that.

Angel Rangel played rm didnt he?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 13, 2013, 07:08:01 PM
Angel Rangel played rm didnt he?

http://www.evertonfc.com/match/report/1213/everton-v-swansea-city (http://www.evertonfc.com/match/report/1213/everton-v-swansea-city)

Yes, accordring to this.

I was hoping that swansea could come and attempt to play their brand of football but instead they were more negative than Stoke.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on June 13, 2013, 07:10:51 PM
http://www.evertonfc.com/match/report/1213/everton-v-swansea-city (http://www.evertonfc.com/match/report/1213/everton-v-swansea-city)

Yes, accordring to this.

I was hoping that swansea could come and attempt to play their brand of football but instead they were more negative than Stoke.

You can't say that Laudrup didn't react to the first game against them!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Bluenose 91 on June 13, 2013, 07:13:31 PM
Who would you rather we consider, fella'.

I don't really know mate, I'm not the manager.

Ashley Williams is not good enough though.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 13, 2013, 07:20:32 PM
No it was Chico Flores who was incredible that day.

 It really does show that bargains can be had - Flores was £2m!!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 13, 2013, 07:27:35 PM
It really does show that bargains can be had - Flores was £2m!!

In general he doesnt look up to much tho
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 13, 2013, 07:38:15 PM
In general he doesnt look up to much tho

 Oh right, in that case I'm typing out my arse - what's his downside - pace, marking, tackling, heading, presence?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: brap2 on June 13, 2013, 07:39:30 PM
Oh right, in that case I'm typing out my arse - what's his downside - pace, marking, tackling, heading, presence?

yes
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Les Trebilcock on June 13, 2013, 07:41:42 PM
yes

                                                                                      lolol
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Trowel on June 13, 2013, 08:04:41 PM
Williams is a terrible centre back, unbelievably overrated. Floats around like he thinks he's Zidane at the back. Had to suffer watching him for Wales on too many occasions. He'd suit Liverpool I think - definite touch of the Glen Johnson about him; all style, absolutely no substance.

I'm a big fan of Rangel. Not a position we need to fill though.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Waltzer on June 13, 2013, 10:09:20 PM
Cant see this, but am hopeful he is looking at a new keeper

Everton will demand Anders Lindegaard in exchange if they sell Tim Howard to Manchester United.
SportsDirect News exclusively revealed at the beginning of the month that United boss David Moyes has lined up a bid for Howard as he looks to revamp his Old Trafford squad.
But new Toffees manager Roberto Martinez is set to play hardball over the sale of his stopper.
The Spaniard is a big admirer of Lindegaard and would want him included in any deal that would see Howard head for Old Trafford.
Lindegaard made just 10 appearances for United in the Premier League last season, and is valued at around £5 million by the Red Devils.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on June 13, 2013, 10:27:28 PM
Cant see this, but am hopeful he is looking at a new keeper

Everton will demand Anders Lindegaard in exchange if they sell Tim Howard to Manchester United.
SportsDirect News exclusively revealed at the beginning of the month that United boss David Moyes has lined up a bid for Howard as he looks to revamp his Old Trafford squad.
But new Toffees manager Roberto Martinez is set to play hardball over the sale of his stopper.
The Spaniard is a big admirer of Lindegaard and would want him included in any deal that would see Howard head for Old Trafford.
Lindegaard made just 10 appearances for United in the Premier League last season, and is valued at around £5 million by the Red Devils.

Why would Howard leave here, where he's a nailed-on starter, to go sit behind De Gea and play a couple of cup matches per season? He doesn't strike me as one who would chase the money, especially as he's been at United before. And if Lindegaard is worth £5M, considering he's not a full-time starter and isn't a current international, what is Howard worth? Yeah, he's 5 years older, but 34 is not really that old for a keeper. I suspect Howard will play out his current deal, maybe sticking on for an additional year or two, before finishing his career in the MLS.

The backup keeper (as we need one) should be a younger player with potential, who can play the cups and learn from Howard for a couple of years with a view to taking the starting position as Howard enters the last year of his contract.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Azz on June 13, 2013, 10:30:55 PM
Okore has signed for Villa - http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~3208897,00.html (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~3208897,00.html)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on June 13, 2013, 11:10:26 PM
Okore has signed for Villa - http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~3208897,00.html (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~3208897,00.html)


And?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Polledreng on June 13, 2013, 11:18:08 PM
And?
We have missed out on a great CB
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Mick 1995 on June 13, 2013, 11:22:09 PM
We have missed out on a great CB

With Ram here.

Its an official tranfer for Villa in an UNofficial transfer thread about Everton?
Unless the guy was linked to us it does seem a bit odd (apologies if he has in fact been linked with us)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Trowel on June 13, 2013, 11:27:06 PM
Google says:

http://www.insidefutbol.com/2013/06/13/everton-bid-to-hijack-jores-okore-aston-villa-move-set-to-fail/89041/ (http://www.insidefutbol.com/2013/06/13/everton-bid-to-hijack-jores-okore-aston-villa-move-set-to-fail/89041/)

Quote
Everton have been attempting to steal a march on Premier League rivals Aston Villa in their hunt for FC Nordsjaelland defender Jores Okore, according to Danish news outlet BT.

The Toffees have undergone an uncertain period over player exits with former boss David Moyes moving to Manchester United, but the efforts to sign Okore have reportedly been unsuccessful.
(I'd never heard of him either)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Polledreng on June 13, 2013, 11:29:52 PM
Google says:

http://www.insidefutbol.com/2013/06/13/everton-bid-to-hijack-jores-okore-aston-villa-move-set-to-fail/89041/ (http://www.insidefutbol.com/2013/06/13/everton-bid-to-hijack-jores-okore-aston-villa-move-set-to-fail/89041/)
(I'd never heard of him either)
We have been following him for the last 2 years - and yes we did make a bid (in the Everton way we did that after Nordsjælland had agreed a fee with Villa)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Polledreng on June 13, 2013, 11:31:36 PM
With Ram here.

Its an official tranfer for Villa in an UNofficial transfer thread about Everton?
Unless the guy was linked to us it does seem a bit odd (apologies if he has in fact been linked with us)
See above - he was - and has been as I say for 2 years. It's Agger all over again. We followed him and made a bid after Brøndby had accepted an offer from Liverpool....  Seems to remember we did that with Smith aswell
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Polledreng on June 13, 2013, 11:34:24 PM
According to BT (this time only quoting english sources (don't believe that)) FCK has turned down an offer for Cornelius http://www.sporten.dk/superligaen/medie-fck-siger-nej-til-60-mio.-for-cornelius (http://www.sporten.dk/superligaen/medie-fck-siger-nej-til-60-mio.-for-cornelius)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on June 13, 2013, 11:37:47 PM
Our targets would of changed now we have a new manager.

Is Azz gonna post everytime another team signs someone we were "linked" with?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Fern on June 13, 2013, 11:45:45 PM
Our targets would of changed now we have a new manager.

Is Azz gonna post everytime another team signs someone we were "linked" with?


Oh chill out ffs
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Simon Paul on June 13, 2013, 11:47:06 PM
Our targets would of changed now we have a new manager.

Is Azz gonna post everytime another team signs someone we were "linked" with?


That depends on how much Martinez trusts the scouting network he has inherited

Moyes didn't find his transfers himself, he chose them from those which were suggested to him by the network at the club.

Martinez will do the same
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 14, 2013, 12:21:47 AM
Our targets would of changed now we have a new manager.

Is Azz gonna post everytime another team signs someone we were "linked" with?

Charlie Austin thread says hi!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on June 14, 2013, 12:31:57 AM
Charlie Austin thread says hi!

Sorry, I must of missed Charlie Austin signing for someone else.

If you're gonna try and make a tit out of me at least get your facts right.

Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 14, 2013, 12:45:00 AM
Sorry, I must of missed Charlie Austin signing for someone else.

If you're gonna try and make a tit out of me at least get your facts right.

At least this Danish fella was linked with Everton.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on June 14, 2013, 12:50:38 AM
At least this Danish fella was linked with Everton.

Charlie Austin has been linked with us. That wasn't the point of my thread tho, so wind your neck in.

Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Silas on June 14, 2013, 12:51:49 AM
Oh good this again.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on June 14, 2013, 12:52:29 AM
That depends on how much Martinez trusts the scouting network he has inherited

Moyes didn't find his transfers himself, he chose them from those which were suggested to him by the network at the club.

Martinez will do the same

Or indeed hadn't watched some of the same players while he was at Wigan.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 14, 2013, 12:59:03 AM
Charlie Austin has been linked with us. That wasn't the point of my thread tho, so wind your neck in.

Perhaps he was linked but not in your random Charlie Austin thread.

You can't go pulling people up on tenuous or less obviously linked players when you do it yourself. That's the point.  No winding in of necks needed.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on June 14, 2013, 01:06:39 AM
Perhaps he was linked but not in your random Charlie Austin thread.

You can't go pulling people up on tenuous or less obviously linked players when you do it yourself. That's the point.  No winding in of necks needed.

You've just totally missed the point just to have a go at me.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwhtxb5d3F1r6aoq4o1_250.gif)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Danny on June 14, 2013, 01:13:06 AM
Should just ban Mirallas and Ram replying to each others posts, boring as fuck.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on June 14, 2013, 01:14:36 AM
Should just ban Mirallas and Ram replying to each others posts, boring as fuck.

Agreed. It's hard to ignore when its relentless tho.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Ross on June 14, 2013, 01:17:49 AM
Agreed. It's hard to ignore when its relentless tho.
£
Isn't there an "ignore all post from ... " option you could use in your personnal settings?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on June 14, 2013, 01:20:48 AM
£
Isn't there an "ignore all post from ... " option you could use in your personnal settings?

Too much effort.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Analog Kid on June 14, 2013, 01:22:54 AM
Just have a bum. Get it over with.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Ross on June 14, 2013, 01:23:47 AM
Too much effort.

Or you enjoy it
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 14, 2013, 01:25:31 AM
You've just totally missed the point just to have a go at me.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwhtxb5d3F1r6aoq4o1_250.gif)

How have I missed the point? Explain.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on June 14, 2013, 01:28:15 AM
How have I missed the point? Explain.

You can work it out Mr Engineer.

Anyway, Im out choose someone else to pick on mate cos everyone is bored of this shite, including me.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Azz on June 14, 2013, 01:37:55 AM
Our targets would of changed now we have a new manager.

Is Azz gonna post everytime another team signs someone we were "linked" with?



Maybe I will... problem?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 14, 2013, 01:42:09 AM
You can work it out Mr Engineer.

Anyway, Im out choose someone else to pick on mate cos everyone is bored of this shite, including me.

Don't come over all Kopite/Suarez/victim Ram. It's not a good look.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Polledreng on June 14, 2013, 01:45:33 AM
That depends on how much Martinez trusts the scouting network he has inherited

Moyes didn't find his transfers himself, he chose them from those which were suggested to him by the network at the club.

Martinez will do the same
:thumbsup:  -  City didn't have to wait for there new manager to use money - silly money.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 14, 2013, 03:00:43 AM
Okore has signed for Villa - http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~3208897,00.html (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~3208897,00.html)



Good young player, and they've signed Leandro Bacuna, a young Dutch prospect!. That's 2 wingers they've now bought in last 2 weeks Villa, Bacuna and Tonev. Wonder if N'Zogbia will be on his way out, wouldn't mind him at us on the cheap!. Martinez got the best out of him at Wigan and he hasn't been the same since leaving.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on June 14, 2013, 03:02:01 AM

Good young player, and they've signed Leandro Bacuna, a young Dutch prospect!. That's 2 wingers they've now bought in last 2 weeks Villa, Bacuna and Tonev. Wonder if N'Zogbia will be on his way out, wouldn't mind him at us on the cheap!. Martinez got the best out of him at Wigan and he hasn't been the same since leaving.

Dont even go there lad
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on June 14, 2013, 03:11:40 AM
Someone get an N'zogbia thread started, quick!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 14, 2013, 04:06:34 AM
Not another insomnia thread.....
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 14, 2013, 04:18:34 AM
Dont even go there lad


Haha why not, you'd of had him at us 3 years ago, admit it!.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: christiffa25 on June 14, 2013, 01:20:42 PM
Someone get an N'zogbia thread started, quick!

Biggest bullet dodged ever there!!

Think Moses could well be this years nzogbia for us blues.
However I do think he's a lot more talented.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Danny on June 14, 2013, 06:54:38 PM
Biggest bullet dodged ever there!!

Think Moses could well be this years nzogbia for us blues.
However I do think he's a lot more talented.

Moses is basically another Mirallas type, i'm not sure i'd want that kind of play on both wings really.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: krakkokain on June 14, 2013, 06:56:28 PM

Haha why not, you'd of had him at us 3 years ago, admit it!.

To be fair Villa fans still rate him, just think hes been played oop too often .

Here is one from next weeks papers Adolfo Valencia to Everton, you know it makes sense !
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: krakkokain on June 14, 2013, 06:58:06 PM
Moses is basically another Mirallas type, i'm not sure i'd want that kind of play on both wings really.

Yeah that would be terrible   :headbang: 


Its not like they both can play 4 different positions

Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: dekko on June 14, 2013, 06:59:45 PM
To be fair Villa fans still rate him, just think hes been played oop too often .

Here is one from next weeks papers Adolfo Valencia to Everton, you know it makes sense !

How da fuk is Adolfo Valencia?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Danny on June 14, 2013, 07:01:26 PM
Yeah that would be terrible   :headbang: 

Its not like they both can play 4 different positions

You're probably right but two selfish wingers isn't really going to help that much is it? If Mirallas was playing up front it wouldn't be that bad.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 14, 2013, 07:03:46 PM
How da fuk is Adolfo Valencia?

I just googled him, he is either a retired Colombian player or some young lad who plays MLS for Portland i think
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: krakkokain on June 14, 2013, 07:13:21 PM
I just googled him, he is either a retired Colombian player or some young lad who plays MLS for Portland i think


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolfo_Valencia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolfo_Valencia) ..... will replace Steve Round next season.

Or perhaps  ive just snorted my username and meant Antonio.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 14, 2013, 07:19:24 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolfo_Valencia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolfo_Valencia) ..... will replace Steve Round next season.

Or perhaps  ive just snorted my username and meant Antonio.

Om then, glad we are over that one  :-\ ::)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on June 14, 2013, 07:19:50 PM
Moses is basically another Mirallas type, i'm not sure i'd want that kind of play on both wings really.

I suppose that would depend on if we wanted to make the wide players the focus of our attacks.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: krakkokain on June 14, 2013, 07:26:32 PM
I suppose that would depend on if we wanted to make the wide players the focus of our attacks.

Good Point.

They few times ive watched wigan last season they played a weird 3 4 3 .

Its the only time ive seen a team play with wingbacks and wingers.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 14, 2013, 07:29:37 PM
I suppose that would depend on if we wanted to make the wide players the focus of our attacks.

Width is our main asset at present but Baines provides the main outlet. Be interesting to see what Martinez tries with Baines (If he stays)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on June 14, 2013, 07:35:13 PM
Yeah it's hard as we try to get Baines into space.

If the wingers are going to be prominent then you don't necessarily want Baines to be up there quite as often as he is now.

Or you'd have to have him being the decoy for the winger; the opposite of how it is now really.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Amata on June 17, 2013, 05:22:00 AM
Lots of silly rumours about PSG being interested in Naismith but seen this, if true we would be stupid not to offer him to either.

Brian Kelly ‏@SkySportsBrian  5m 
Steven Naismith to PSG? No chance. Fulham and Cardiff are interested however, and are willing to pay up to £6m. #EFC #PSG #FFC

Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: christiffa25 on June 17, 2013, 01:13:06 PM
Moses is basically another Mirallas type, i'm not sure i'd want that kind of play on both wings really.

What a strange comment...ha!

Another mirallas type on the opposite side is exactly what we do need.

Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: christiffa25 on June 17, 2013, 01:16:42 PM
Lots of silly rumours about PSG being interested in Naismith but seen this, if true we would be stupid not to offer him to either.

Brian Kelly ‏@SkySportsBrian  5m 
Steven Naismith to PSG? No chance. Fulham and Cardiff are interested however, and are willing to pay up to £6m. #EFC #PSG #FFC



Anything from 2M I'd be exstactic about!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: dunkster on June 17, 2013, 03:31:42 PM
Out of his depth in the premiership in my opinion.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 17, 2013, 03:37:03 PM
Any money for Naismith will have made it a good deal all in all  nod
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: dangermouse on June 17, 2013, 04:08:11 PM
Do we play with wingers? I must have missed something.......

I must be honest though I cant wait to see how Martinez sets his team up.... I think we are all anticipating a very forward thinking attacking line up....

He might just surprise us and revolutionise 4-4-2   :woohoo:
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Mick 1995 on June 17, 2013, 06:32:32 PM
Do we play with wingers? I must have missed something.......

I must be honest though I cant wait to see how Martinez sets his team up.... I think we are all anticipating a very forward thinking attacking line up....

He might just surprise us and revolutionise 4-4-2   :woohoo:

God i hope not. We'd be flirting with relegation if we played with 3 banks of players.
It's had it's day and need to be resigned to the history books
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on June 17, 2013, 06:48:56 PM
God i hope not. We'd be flirting with relegation if we played with 3 banks of players.
It's had it's day and need to be resigned to the history books

In that interview with the Wigan fan sites he explains why he doesn't like 4-4-2.

Granted that was a few years ago but it's not as though a) he's played it since or b) it's stock has risen as a formation since then either.

I think there's something in that he won't play ridiculous attacking strategies though.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Mick 1995 on June 17, 2013, 07:10:49 PM
I think he is a sane bloke so he is probably going to look at the players we have, look at the players we might be able to sign and probably arrange a system to suit the players.

If we are top heavy/light somewhere then he will buy players to balance things out.

I'm not sure why fans bang on about specific formations or the need for wingers or some such thing. Any train of thought that is rigid and set in stone is one that will get found out and fail.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 17, 2013, 07:21:07 PM
Wonder if we will sell Gueye this summer?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on June 17, 2013, 07:43:16 PM
Wonder if we will sell Gueye this summer?

He might flourish in our new "continental" style.

Who's with me?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 17, 2013, 07:45:00 PM
He might flourish in our new "continental" style.

Who's with me?

Errr yeah, right behind you - Honest
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on June 17, 2013, 07:51:06 PM
Errr yeah, right behind you - Honest

Gueye
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 17, 2013, 07:55:15 PM
Gueye

He is a french relative
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Bacarelle on June 17, 2013, 09:38:19 PM
Lots of silly rumours about PSG being interested in Naismith but seen this, if true we would be stupid not to offer him to either.

Brian Kelly ‏@SkySportsBrian  5m 
Steven Naismith to PSG? No chance. Fulham and Cardiff are interested however, and are willing to pay up to £6m. #EFC #PSG #FFC

I have the car started and ready to drive him south if either club offer more than a £100 I.O.U. !
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on June 17, 2013, 09:41:45 PM
If Naismith started behind the striker for a whole season he'd score 12-15 goals no doubt.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: bigmanbob on June 17, 2013, 09:47:49 PM
He really, really wouldn't
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on June 17, 2013, 09:58:09 PM
He really, really wouldn't

If you put Cahill on the wing for a year he'd be shit, it's the same thing with Naismith.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: brap2 on June 17, 2013, 10:11:37 PM
If you put Cahill on the wing for a year he'd be shit, it's the same thing with Naismith.

don't bother mate, it's really funny to rip naismith. he's had one season, barely any starts, he cost us fucking peanuts and scored against the shite, but nah. not arsed are they. john merro says he's shit and there's loads of dead funny twitter jokes about him.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: American Evertonian on June 17, 2013, 10:36:17 PM
Lots of silly rumours about PSG being interested in Naismith but seen this, if true we would be stupid not to offer him to either.

Brian Kelly ‏@SkySportsBrian  5m 
Steven Naismith to PSG? No chance. Fulham and Cardiff are interested however, and are willing to pay up to £6m. #EFC #PSG #FFC



Please tell me you didn't believe that PSG shite. It was started by @evertonfctalk as a joke solely to get it trending. There was no truth to it and he even told people he was making it just to see if we could get PSG interested.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on June 17, 2013, 10:40:47 PM
Classy our fans taking the piss out of our own players after a rough year.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on June 17, 2013, 10:43:45 PM
Classy our fans taking the piss out of our own players after a rough year.

But we always support players as long as they give 100%, don't we?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 17, 2013, 10:46:33 PM
But we always support players as long as they give 100%, don't we?

Unless your the out of position replacement for the new belle of the crowd, then no matter what you do your just shit - End of
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Polledreng on June 17, 2013, 11:30:29 PM
Please tell me you didn't believe that PSG shite. It was started by @evertonfctalk as a joke solely to get it trending. There was no truth to it and he even told people he was making it just to see if we could get PSG interested.
He is a joke if he thinks PSG's transfers are taking into consideration what some lunatic is writing on twitter
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Polledreng on June 17, 2013, 11:31:19 PM
But we always support players as long as they give 100%, don't we?
Wish you were right
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Amata on June 17, 2013, 11:51:54 PM
Please tell me you didn't believe that PSG shite. It was started by @evertonfctalk as a joke solely to get it trending. There was no truth to it and he even told people he was making it just to see if we could get PSG interested.

No of course not,  the point of the post was that in response to the idiot rumour, a Sky Sports reporter said that there is actual interest in him from Fulham and Cardiff.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: American Evertonian on June 17, 2013, 11:52:40 PM
But we always support players as long as they give 100%, don't we?

I think that is under the pretense that we can actually tell that their 100% produces some quality footballing (regardless of if you are coming off an injury and being played out of position)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: American Evertonian on June 18, 2013, 01:19:40 AM
According to Sky Bet we are 2/1 to land Victor Moses as of now. Not sure how much Chels wants for him but can't see us being able to afford both him and Fer if they want £8-9m (unless of course we sell Felli).

With that being said I would love to have him here, esp if we can get Fer and keep Felli too.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: evertonarntwe on June 18, 2013, 01:24:01 AM
moses on a year loan is doing the rounds on twitter
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: cantoffee on June 18, 2013, 01:29:07 AM
If we could get Moses on loan that would be brilliant.

Although it is not often that a player that talented is loaned out.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 18, 2013, 01:33:37 AM
I only really like loans if they are with a view to buy
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on June 18, 2013, 01:37:44 AM
I would not be too surprised if we're the un named club that's gone for Vydra
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: plumber on June 18, 2013, 01:42:39 AM
I only really like loans if they are with a view to buy

Agree. Don't want us to be an incubator for the "big clubs". We are not West Brom or Bolton.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on June 18, 2013, 01:44:02 AM
Seriously tho, why the Fer love on here?

Yet anyone from the prem gets wrote off as "shite"
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 18, 2013, 01:45:10 AM
Seriously tho, why the Fer love on here?

Yet anyone from the prem gets wrote off as "shite"
whose shite?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Eddie on June 18, 2013, 01:47:49 AM
Agree. Don't want us to be an incubator for the "big clubs". We are not West Brom or Bolton.

If it improves the team I couldn't care less how it's done.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blueToffee on June 18, 2013, 01:50:40 AM
I would not be too surprised if we're the un named club that's gone for Vydra

Just heard mention of Chelsea. Although why they'd need him is unclear so maybe it's just speculation.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Silas on June 18, 2013, 01:50:41 AM
Seriously tho, why the Fer love on here?

Yet anyone from the prem gets wrote off as "shite"

Not anyone from the prem,shite players from the prem.  Watched fer play  a lot since we missed out in january.   He's value compared top the over inflated english market
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 18, 2013, 01:51:18 AM
If it improves the team I couldn't care less how it's done.
prefer view to buy for the long run of the club tho
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on June 18, 2013, 02:05:15 AM
whose shite?

Moses
McGeady
Kone
Maloney
Wickham

All been called shite on here, yet people are willing for us to spend most of the budget on someone from the dutch league.
Title: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 18, 2013, 02:07:54 AM
Moses
McGeady
Kone
Maloney
Wickham

All been called shite on here, yet people are willing for us to spend most of the budget on someone from the dutch league.

How big is our budget?
Title: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 18, 2013, 02:08:27 AM
Double post
Title: Re: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 18, 2013, 02:11:10 AM
Moses
McGeady
Kone
Maloney
Wickham

All been called shite on here, yet people are willing for us to spend most of the budget on someone from the dutch league.

Moses --- would gladly take Moses
McGeady --- don't rate
Kone --- decent but with no sell on value would prefer we look elsewhere
Maloney --- same as kone
Wickham --- interesting. Looks decent and maybe worth a look. Has he been injured? Only ask as he seems to be behind graham in the pecking order

From what i have seen of fer he looks a good option at good price
Title: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 18, 2013, 02:11:25 AM
You can say that again jimmy.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 18, 2013, 02:13:03 AM
You can say that again jimmy.
ha ha fucking phone. Can they be deleted gash/si/bally/thom
Title: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on June 18, 2013, 02:13:41 AM
Bloody hell Jimmy.


Have people really said that Moses is shite? Christ (see what I did there?)
Title: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 18, 2013, 02:13:43 AM
ha ha fucking phone. Can they be deleted gash/si/bally/thom

I think tapatalk is borked.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 18, 2013, 02:14:39 AM
Bloody hell Jimmy.


Have people really said that Moses is shite? Christ (see what I did there?)
phone has aids
Title: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Grae on June 18, 2013, 02:17:40 AM
Don't honestly care where the players come from, whether it be the Dutch league or the Premier League of wherever. I only care that they are good players and represent good value. Unfortunately, at the moment, buying British or from within the British leagues doesn't, to my mind, represent value for money. I don't particularly think that Wickham, Maloney, Kone etc are shite (admittedly, I think we should be aiming higher) but I don't think a club  with such financial constraints, should be wasting money paying over the odds for players, when better alternatives are available from foreign leagues.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 18, 2013, 02:23:12 AM
Thanks mods C:-)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 18, 2013, 02:37:27 AM
He might flourish in our new "continental" style.

Who's with me?


He may get tried out in a different role by Martinez instead of being put on the left, thats for sure!. He'll get a chance to try and prove himself.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 18, 2013, 02:39:52 AM

He may get tried out in a different role by Martinez instead of being put on the left, thats for sure!. He'll get a chance to try and prove himself.
think we are passed that now. ;)

Sent from my GT-P3110 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 18, 2013, 02:40:08 AM
moses on a year loan is doing the rounds on twitter


That would be are best bit of business of the summer IMO, to get Moses in on loan.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: bigmanbob on June 18, 2013, 02:40:24 AM
don't bother mate, it's really funny to rip naismith. he's had one season, barely any starts, he cost us fucking peanuts and scored against the shite, but nah. not arsed are they. john merro says he's shit and there's loads of dead funny twitter jokes about him.

I never said he was shite or took the piss out of him, I said he would never score 12-15 goals. He wouldn't.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: brap2 on June 18, 2013, 02:43:26 AM
Moses
McGeady
Kone
Maloney
Wickham

All been called shite on here, yet people are willing for us to spend most of the budget on someone from the dutch league.

pfft. dutch league, since when did they produce good players?

connor wickham for me, all day long.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 18, 2013, 02:58:18 AM
Moses
McGeady
Kone
Maloney
Wickham

All been called shite on here, yet people are willing for us to spend most of the budget on someone from the dutch league.


Moses i'd definitely have, either to buy or loan with a view to buy as i think he'd add summat straight away.

McGeady im not too fussed about, decent player but would be a squad player at best and if so, we may aswell stick it out with Naismith or give the young ens a chance, like Long or Kennedy?!.

Kone i would have but for the reported £6.5m buy out clause he as, i think we could get someone younger for that with potential, Finnbogason of Heerenveen maybe, he's the next in line of some top strikers to of started out by making an impression at Heerenveen!.

Maloney as/is having his indian summer at Wigan and i dont think he'd improve us much or be a first team regular. He's decent but not young. May aswell stick it out with Ossie or give Barkley games than waste money on Maloney.

And Wickham, pffft, what can ya say?!. Looked a prospect at Ipswich and then got ruined at Sunderland and as never looked the same player!. Seriously, i'd rather give Vellios more chances.

And as for Fer, he's top quality and definitley the type of player we need in midfield to replace Felli IF he goes?!. Seen some silly links on twitter that weve made inquiries for Paulinho!. Haha what a load of bollocks, at 20m Euros, doubt it. To me, from what ive seen of both players, Fer is better!.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: American Evertonian on June 18, 2013, 03:10:25 AM
Seriously tho, why the Fer love on here?

Yet anyone from the prem gets wrote off as "shite"

Don't lump me in with the rest of em Ram. My reasons for the love is due to the fact he is young, has shown he is a box-to-box mid (in the U21's which I have been impressed by his play), will provide us some good depth, and Moyes clearly was impressed enough to fly him over for a physical.

As for the other 5 players you mentioned...The only one I have commented on is Kone. My issue isn't that he is shite, but that for what Wigan will want and the age he is it wouldn't be a smart buy.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 18, 2013, 03:12:52 AM

Seen some silly links on twitter that weve made inquiries for Paulinho!

Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: christiffa25 on June 18, 2013, 03:16:58 AM
Pauliniho.....??

He's 20M and spurs want him, can't see it realisticaly can you?

If we have 20M get on the blower to Rooney ffs!!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Mick 1995 on June 18, 2013, 03:47:39 PM
Pauliniho.....??

He's 20M and spurs want him, can't see it realisticaly can you?

If we have 20M get on the blower to Rooney ffs!!

or dont.

Rooney is such a poor shout its unreal. Nearly as bad as Rams for thinking premier league also-rans/possibilities must be superior to someone from the dutch league tearing up the u21 level
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Ross on June 18, 2013, 04:39:53 PM
Pauliniho.....??

He's 20M and spurs want him, can't see it realisticaly can you?

If we have 20M get on the blower to Rooney ffs!!

Great idea! But we'd have to save up for another 3-4 years before Utd would sell us his right leg as well.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: david smallman on June 18, 2013, 06:45:47 PM
We will get cattermole and parker will go to sunderland.
Its written in the stars
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on June 19, 2013, 09:52:38 PM
Apparently we put in a bid for Jonathan dos Santos. A bit under 4M Euros, supposedly, which was rejected as Barcelona values him at 5M. For a backup, I don't know... Would lean toward no, as he's not had much first-team action at all.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 19, 2013, 09:58:16 PM
Apparently we put in a bid for Jonathan dos Santos. A bit under 4M Euros, supposedly, which was rejected as Barcelona values him at 5M. For a backup, I don't know... Would lean toward no, as he's not had much first-team action at all.

Anderlect are also after him. I hope hes better than his brother. And father.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on June 19, 2013, 10:23:57 PM
Anderlect are also after him. I hope hes better than his brother. And father.

Sevilla interested as well.

In Catalan daily paper Sport it said that the Anderlecht bid was significantly better than Sevilla's and slightly better than ours.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 19, 2013, 11:11:21 PM
Obligatory YouTube video.

WARNING: it's boring

Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: di_guyo on June 19, 2013, 11:19:38 PM
Anderlect are also after him. I hope hes better than his brother. And father.

Giovani isn't a bad player at all mate...didn't really get a fair crack at Spurs.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on June 19, 2013, 11:26:58 PM
Obligatory YouTube video.

WARNING: it's boring

http://youtu.be/49izA8CjqAk (http://youtu.be/49izA8CjqAk)


Is it is as boring as the Barkley one?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 19, 2013, 11:52:26 PM
Is it is as boring as the Barkley one?

Makes the Barkley vid look like a best of messi compilation.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: American Evertonian on June 19, 2013, 11:58:09 PM
Obligatory YouTube video.

WARNING: it's boring

http://youtu.be/49izA8CjqAk (http://youtu.be/49izA8CjqAk)


Wow...he sure can pass it sideways

Giovani isn't a bad player at all mate...didn't really get a fair crack at Spurs.

I've always fancied Giovani though. I think he never got a fair crack at the Prem. Redknapp used him very sporadically and rarely gave him much time or put him in the right tactics/positions to be successful. Given his creativity and ability to play in the middle or wing I think he would be lovely to play in a 4-2-3-1 alongside Mirallas and Pienaar.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 20, 2013, 12:08:41 AM
Wow...he sure can pass it sideways


Brenda Rogers likes this.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: School of Science on June 20, 2013, 12:11:07 AM
Apart from Fer, very underwhelmed with the players weve been linked with so far ::)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on June 20, 2013, 12:29:18 AM
Not specifically about dos Santos but if you're going to play possession football you need a continuity player.

That player will pass it sideways a lot.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 20, 2013, 12:34:10 AM
Not specifically about dos Santos but if you're going to play possession football you need a continuity player.

That player will pass it sideways a lot.

Pienaar, Osman and fellaini can already do this. We need players who can play the killer forward pass, who also have an eye for goal. That Dos Santos compilation doesn't really suggest that.

I'm unconvinced.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on June 20, 2013, 12:39:43 AM
Pienaar, Osman and fellaini can already do this. We need players who can play the killer forward pass, who also have an eye for goal. That Dos Santos compilation doesn't really suggest that.

I'm unconvinced.

I don't think they do the transistions that well though. Pienaar and Osman certainly don't have the pace in their passes to get it from one side of the pitch to the other.

I'd say Gibson is our only player who's really going to play that role.

Also if we're keeping possession more I'd expect Osman and Pienaar to get into pockets of space and play little balls through from there.

I've never seen enough of dos Santos to offer comment on him (and can't be bothered watching that clip!) but if we're after a continuity player then they're unlikely to have a load of flashy pieces of play to make up a compilation.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on June 20, 2013, 12:39:52 AM
Apart from Fer, very underwhelmed with the players weve been linked with so far ::)

Whats so good about Fer?

Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on June 20, 2013, 12:41:37 AM
Dont get the hate on here for players that "pass it sideways"

These players are a vital cog in the machine. If you had a midfield full of Steven Gerrards then you've got no chance.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on June 20, 2013, 12:44:31 AM
Dont get the hate on here for players that "pass it sideways"

These players are a vital cog in the machine. If you had a midfield full of Steven Gerrards then you've got no chance.

You'd look like England!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: School of Science on June 20, 2013, 12:51:40 AM
Whats so good about Fer?



Strong athletic, pacy box to box midfielder, if either Fellaini or Gibson are injured suspended he can step right in.
Plus he is available for a good price and is very keen to join us. Whats your crib against him ?

Anyway if that doesn't sway you, this might

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=leroy%20fer%20youtube&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC4QtwIwAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DHCdegInuyyc&ei=E-7BUbKSAo2d0wXlpIHQBA&usg=AFQjCNHVoIH7KdXD4VPXGwzkAqHGIvktRQ (http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=leroy%20fer%20youtube&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC4QtwIwAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DHCdegInuyyc&ei=E-7BUbKSAo2d0wXlpIHQBA&usg=AFQjCNHVoIH7KdXD4VPXGwzkAqHGIvktRQ)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 20, 2013, 01:01:30 AM
Dont get the hate on here for players that "pass it sideways"

These players are a vital cog in the machine. If you had a midfield full of Steven Gerrards then you've got no chance.

There's no hate from me. As GL says, we need players like that who can retain possession and glue the defence to midfield and midfield and attack.

The dos santos vid suggests that he can do that (pass sideways), but very little else. To cut it in the prem u generally need to be more than a one trick pony. Unless of course you are a perfect fit in the perfect footballing jigsaw.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: tonysoprano on June 20, 2013, 01:17:29 AM
every year theres  a must have player who gets better and better the more posts about him, this time it seems its Fer ,hes nearly reached Messi like status !with probably 0% of posters seing him in the flesh
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: American Evertonian on June 20, 2013, 01:36:30 AM
Dont get the hate on here for players that "pass it sideways"

These players are a vital cog in the machine. If you had a midfield full of Steven Gerrards then you've got no chance.

Not hating on the player that pass it sideways although I say something about him after the vid. I was more so having a go at the "highlight video" than anything else.

Agree it is important to have a player who can pass sideways in the squad, but think that is it is more important to have a player who knows when he should play a level pass vs an attacking/forward pass.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: American Evertonian on June 20, 2013, 01:40:12 AM
Apart from Fer, very underwhelmed with the players weve been linked with so far ::)

Speaking of being underwhelmed with links....

Anyone else getting tired of us being linked with older strikers (+28yr). I know it is just paper talk, but it inspires no hope in me when I see it. Know we won't be going for a player with no sell on value so I can't make myself try to believe it could be true. The latest two are Sacha Molders from Augsburg and Almeida from Galatasary.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 20, 2013, 02:17:29 AM
Speaking of being underwhelmed with links....

Anyone else getting tired of us being linked with older strikers (+28yr). I know it is just paper talk, but it inspires no hope in me when I see it. Know we won't be going for a player with no sell on value so I can't make myself try to believe it could be true. The latest two are Sacha Molders from Augsburg and Almeida from Galatasary.
hugo almeida?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on June 20, 2013, 02:31:49 AM
Pienaar, Osman and fellaini can already do this. We need players who can play the killer forward pass, who also have an eye for goal. That Dos Santos compilation doesn't really suggest that.

I'm unconvinced.

This guy...

Macnelly Torres...

the only thing i know about him is that BBC's south(central?)american correspondent recently said that Falcao plays better when torres plays because torres has the ability to slip through balls in behind the defence.

sounds alright?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 20, 2013, 02:36:53 AM
This guy...

Macnelly Torres...

The 28 year old Colombian that no ones heard of?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 20, 2013, 02:37:37 AM
The 28 year old Colombian that no ones heard of?

He may be the one.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: American Evertonian on June 20, 2013, 03:19:16 AM
hugo almeida?

The one and only.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Ross on June 20, 2013, 03:26:47 AM
The one and only.

Not him again...

(http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/chesney.jpg)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 20, 2013, 03:28:58 AM
The one and only.
that's gotta be what 6/7 years now he has been "linked" with us
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Lewis on June 20, 2013, 06:30:34 AM
Not linked anywhere but surely we have to be looking at Keisuke Honda on a free transfer?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on June 20, 2013, 06:33:59 AM
Not linked anywhere but surely we have to be looking at Keisuke Honda on a free transfer?

We did get linked a couple of months back to be fair.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Analog Kid on June 20, 2013, 02:32:17 PM
Strong athletic, pacy box to box midfielder, if either Fellaini or Gibson are injured suspended he can step right in.
Plus he is available for a good price and is very keen to join us. Whats your crib against him ?

Anyway if that doesn't sway you, this might

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=leroy%20fer%20youtube&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC4QtwIwAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DHCdegInuyyc&ei=E-7BUbKSAo2d0wXlpIHQBA&usg=AFQjCNHVoIH7KdXD4VPXGwzkAqHGIvktRQ (http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=leroy%20fer%20youtube&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC4QtwIwAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DHCdegInuyyc&ei=E-7BUbKSAo2d0wXlpIHQBA&usg=AFQjCNHVoIH7KdXD4VPXGwzkAqHGIvktRQ)

I was getting kinda worried at first. For the first 60 seconds of that clip, all's I could gather from it was that he likes to celebrate with the crowd, and he likes to kick the odd advertising hoarding.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: School of Science on June 20, 2013, 02:42:37 PM
I was getting kinda worried at first. For the first 60 seconds of that clip, all's I could gather from it was that he likes to celebrate with the crowd, and he likes to kick the odd advertising hoarding.

Haha that's what I thought, glad I watched past the first minute though, looks the part to me though ( And I know you cant go by you tube clips) Am impressed by his willingness to still want to come here.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on June 20, 2013, 05:32:45 PM
Us being linked with Nathan Redmond today. Apparently £3m. If that equates to him being only a quarter as good as Zaha, then I'm not impressed. This lad looks ridiculously raw.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Cods on June 20, 2013, 05:48:30 PM

Terry, Lampard, Cole, Bertrand, Cahill.

There's 5 'home grown' players, they don't need him.
3 of those 5 will be gone in 12 months.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on June 20, 2013, 06:06:17 PM
Us being linked with Nathan Redmond today. Apparently £3m. If that equates to him being only a quarter as good as Zaha, then I'm not impressed. This lad looks ridiculously raw.

I hope we never sign anyone with the name Nathan.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Bluedylan on June 20, 2013, 06:14:23 PM
Us being linked with Nathan Redmond today. Apparently £3m. If that equates to him being only a quarter as good as Zaha, then I'm not impressed. This lad looks ridiculously raw.

Seems quite realistic given Martinez's history of picking up young, raw talent. I think most people would acknowledge that Zaha was over-priced and over-hyped (very cleverly by Palace), to inflate the fee. From the little I've seen of Redmond, he seems at the same level to Zaha, but without the media hype, so it could be a very good deal, and potentially an excellent re-sale value down the line, as he develops (not that I want to us to buy to sell, but with our limited resources, we need to be always considering re-sale values in our transfer dealings where possible).
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Optimistic Blue on June 20, 2013, 08:00:23 PM
If Gueyes off id happily take Redmond to fill his place, really like the look of him
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on June 20, 2013, 09:47:55 PM
If Gueyes off id happily take Redmond to fill his place, really like the look of him

Indeed. Same type of player, younger, and with more potential. Would see him as a sub for a year or two, starting cup matches and the like, before hopefully filling Pienaar's role if/when he moves on.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: brap2 on June 20, 2013, 10:47:07 PM
would take redmond and honda in a flash.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on June 20, 2013, 10:59:38 PM
would take redmond and honda in a flash.

I would drive Honda here myself. Be boss in the engine room driving us forward.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on June 20, 2013, 11:11:39 PM
He's been VERY inconsistent in the Championship though and would need to find more to his game than just pace. Worth theggamble at £3m though.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blueToffee on June 20, 2013, 11:14:56 PM
I would drive Honda here myself. Be boss in the engine room driving us forward.

I'd mirror this sentiment. Have you seen much of him to signal he'd be a good fit? If so we should manoeuvre to get him here as soon as possible.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on June 20, 2013, 11:28:11 PM
I'd mirror this sentiment. Have you seen much of him to signal he'd be a good fit? If so we should manoeuvre to get him here as soon as possible.

Defo mate, just hope we dont stall on the deal.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 20, 2013, 11:28:52 PM
So unofficially so far we have been linked to:

Fer
Alcaraz
Macnelly Torres
Redmond
N'zogbia
McCarthy
Almeida
Honda
McManaman
Kone
Molders
Paulinho
Dos Santos
De Guzman
Moses
McGeady
Williams
Lescott
Tadic
Cornelius
Salvio
Balde
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on June 21, 2013, 12:28:29 AM
I would drive Honda here myself. Be boss in the engine room driving us forward.

You probably need to put a brake on your enthusiasm as it's not going to happen
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Makis on June 21, 2013, 01:20:39 AM
Twitter also mentions Marlon de Jesus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlon_de_Jes%C3%BAs).
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Eddie on June 21, 2013, 01:23:33 AM
So unofficially so far we have been linked to:

Fer
Alcaraz
Macnelly Torres
Redmond
N'zogbia
McCarthy
Almeida
Honda
McManaman
Kone
Molders
Paulinho
Dos Santos
De Guzman
Moses
McGeady
Williams
Lescott
Tadic
Cornelius
Salvio
Balde

You forgot Riquelme!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on June 21, 2013, 01:37:18 AM
And Rooney
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: dekko on June 21, 2013, 02:07:17 AM
Manuel Fernandes
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: dekko on June 21, 2013, 02:11:09 AM
Manuel Fernandes

ok, no more jokes.

Being linked with Stefan Johansen from Norway.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Eddie on June 21, 2013, 02:12:31 AM
Des walker
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on June 21, 2013, 02:18:48 AM
Des walker

Fantastic defender until he moved to Italy.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Eddie on June 21, 2013, 02:25:45 AM
Fantastic defender until he moved to Italy.

Didn't really follow him when he went there but he was good...his name always seemed to pop up as a possible signing.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 21, 2013, 02:26:24 AM
Des walker

Class player. A proper footballing CB.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Brownie on June 21, 2013, 02:33:40 AM
Walker was amazing but Sampdoria ruined him
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Cozzie on June 21, 2013, 02:35:26 AM
Henning Lowbar
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Makis on June 21, 2013, 02:44:22 AM
I can't remember the match anymore but it was an England match and Walker was absolutely outstanding, one of the best defensive displays I have ever seen, before or after. England if I recall correctly, ended up playing with basically two at the back and seven midfielders and Walker almost single-handedly handled the defense.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Waltzer on June 21, 2013, 01:29:00 PM
Could Tottenham Hotpsur or Everton make a move for Junior Malanda, previously linked with Fulham.

The strength in depth of the current generation of Belgian footballers is continuing to look increasingly impressive.

The latest name threatening the break into the senior squad is 18-year-old midfielder Junior Malanda, a defensive midfielder who plays in his homeland at Zulte Waregem.

He has been described as a 'revelation' of this season, playing 37 games for the club as they narrowly missed out on the Jupiler Pro League title, scoring three goals in the process.

He was recently called into Belgium's under-21 squad, and was linked with a deadline day move to Fulham in January, which clearly did not come to fruition.

Now Belgian newspaper Nieuwsblade believes the midfielder is 'certain to leave' this summer, another key player who is unlikely to be playing at Zulte Waregem next season - along with Chelsea's Thorgan Hazard who is unlikely to leave.

The paper describe him as a 'certain goer' for this summer, adding the midfielder could cost £3 million and "could still count on the interest from Tottenham and Everton,"

The further twist to the report is that "His manager Patrick De Koster confirms the interest of two 'foreign clubs."

Newcastle, FC Twente, Ajax and Udinese have all been linked with the player, who clearly has a bright future ahead of him and represents a shrewd investment for any club looking to invest in a quality young player.

Keep an eye on the name because this could be one to watch later on this summer.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on June 21, 2013, 03:37:50 PM
Linked with a CB who plays for Lorient in L'equipe today...

http://iphone.lequipe.fr/serv/LequipeiPhone?com=newsdefev2frXHT1&chrono=yes&idne=b-380234 (http://iphone.lequipe.fr/serv/LequipeiPhone?com=newsdefev2frXHT1&chrono=yes&idne=b-380234)

FootballFoot - Transferts
Everton convoite Ecuele Manga
21/06/13 08:52
Roberto Martinez, qui a remplacé David Moyes sur le banc d'Everton cet été, n'a pas oublié Bruno Ecuele Manga, qu'il convoitait déjà lorsqu'il entraînait Wigan. Selon nos informations, il est toujours très intéressé par le défenseur central de Lorient, sous contrat jusqu'en 2015.

Although looks pretty tenuous - it's says he'd looked at him while he was at Wigan.

Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on June 21, 2013, 06:15:23 PM
Could Tottenham Hotpsur or Everton make a move for Junior Malanda, previously linked with Fulham.

The strength in depth of the current generation of Belgian footballers is continuing to look increasingly impressive.

The latest name threatening the break into the senior squad is 18-year-old midfielder Junior Malanda, a defensive midfielder who plays in his homeland at Zulte Waregem.

He has been described as a 'revelation' of this season, playing 37 games for the club as they narrowly missed out on the Jupiler Pro League title, scoring three goals in the process.

He was recently called into Belgium's under-21 squad, and was linked with a deadline day move to Fulham in January, which clearly did not come to fruition.

Now Belgian newspaper Nieuwsblade believes the midfielder is 'certain to leave' this summer, another key player who is unlikely to be playing at Zulte Waregem next season - along with Chelsea's Thorgan Hazard who is unlikely to leave.

The paper describe him as a 'certain goer' for this summer, adding the midfielder could cost £3 million and "could still count on the interest from Tottenham and Everton,"

The further twist to the report is that "His manager Patrick De Koster confirms the interest of two 'foreign clubs."

Newcastle, FC Twente, Ajax and Udinese have all been linked with the player, who clearly has a bright future ahead of him and represents a shrewd investment for any club looking to invest in a quality young player.

Keep an eye on the name because this could be one to watch later on this summer.

No fucking word of a lie, I've just bought him for Spurs on Fifa.

Mindfuck
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 21, 2013, 06:30:43 PM
Linked with a CB who plays for Lorient in L'equipe today...

http://iphone.lequipe.fr/serv/LequipeiPhone?com=newsdefev2frXHT1&chrono=yes&idne=b-380234 (http://iphone.lequipe.fr/serv/LequipeiPhone?com=newsdefev2frXHT1&chrono=yes&idne=b-380234)

FootballFoot - Transferts
Everton convoite Ecuele Manga
21/06/13 08:52
Roberto Martinez, qui a remplacé David Moyes sur le banc d'Everton cet été, n'a pas oublié Bruno Ecuele Manga, qu'il convoitait déjà lorsqu'il entraînait Wigan. Selon nos informations, il est toujours très intéressé par le défenseur central de Lorient, sous contrat jusqu'en 2015.

Although looks pretty tenuous - it's says he'd looked at him while he was at Wigan.



Replacement for Heitinga..................... ...............fingers crossed

I wonder if he's left footed.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on June 21, 2013, 06:41:18 PM
Replacement for Heitinga..................... ...............fingers crossed

I wonder if he's left footed.

Who cares; his name's cool.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Ross on June 21, 2013, 06:46:16 PM
Replacement for Heitinga..................... ...............fingers crossed

I wonder if he's left footed.

Not sure it's going to be such a big prerequisite having a right and left footed combination of centerbacks under Bobby... just a guess like
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 21, 2013, 06:51:54 PM
Not sure it's going to be such a big prerequisite having a right and left footed combination of centerbacks under Bobby... just a guess like

It seemed to work for Moyes and makes perfect sense in my eyes. Im sure some statistical analysis will show that a left footed defender is more effective at LCB than RCB. Both Lefties (Lescott and Distin) seem to slot in perfectly at LCB.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on June 21, 2013, 06:58:58 PM
It seemed to work for Moyes and makes perfect sense in my eyes. Im sure some statistical analysis will show that a left footed defender is more effective at LCB than RCB. Both Lefties (Lescott and Distin) seem to slot in perfectly at LCB.

Well I suppose ideally you would have a left footer and a right footer but I don't think it's a pre-requisite (if only due to the likelihood of there being more players who favour their right foot).

There have been plenty of successful CB pairings with the two players being predominantly right footed.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Ross on June 21, 2013, 07:10:31 PM
It seemed to work for Moyes and makes perfect sense in my eyes. Im sure some statistical analysis will show that a left footed defender is more effective at LCB than RCB. Both Lefties (Lescott and Distin) seem to slot in perfectly at LCB.

I think in an ideal world that would be the case.

 But it's about priorities though. Moyes would often favour a strongly organised and solid defence with the principle that not conceding cheaply gives you a better chance of winning. Where as Bobby we know believes that football is about beating the opposition not stopping them.

I just think if he's after a new centreback it not going to be a deal breaker if he's left or right footed, more is he suitable for the style he wants us to play and is he affordable.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Ross on June 21, 2013, 07:16:25 PM
Well I suppose ideally you would have a left footer and a right footer but I don't think it's a pre-requisite (if only due to the likelihood of there being more players who favour their right foot).

There have been plenty of successful CB pairings with the two players being predominantly right footed.

It's more like an ideology that Moyes developed as we progressed. When he first came the first two centrebacks he bought where right footed, and even when he signed his first left footed centreback he played him at leftback for most of the season and kept Jags and Yobo as his main pairing.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blueski on June 21, 2013, 07:19:10 PM
It's more like an ideology that Moyes developed as we progressed. When he first came the first two centrebacks he bought where right footed, and even when he signed his first left footed centreback he played him at leftback for most of the season and kept Jags and Yobo as his main pairing.
I'm sure left footedness was an element but there really were other factors at play (pace) which drove his selections if you ask me
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 21, 2013, 07:22:41 PM
I'm sure left footedness was an element but there really were other factors at play (pace) which drove his selections if you ask me

I think it was more to do with Moyes deciding that Baines wasn't quite ready and Lescott was a better option at LB.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on June 21, 2013, 07:42:20 PM
It's more like an ideology that Moyes developed as we progressed. When he first came the first two centrebacks he bought where right footed, and even when he signed his first left footed centreback he played him at leftback for most of the season and kept Jags and Yobo as his main pairing.

Yes.

I think when Lescott left he also wanted someone who could cover at LB if needs be, which Distin has done on the odd occasion.

Due to Distin's success we've not had to look for a new CB to replace him so we don't really know if Moyes would have gone after a left footed player anyway.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on June 21, 2013, 08:09:46 PM
Linked with a CB who plays for Lorient in L'equipe today...

http://iphone.lequipe.fr/serv/LequipeiPhone?com=newsdefev2frXHT1&chrono=yes&idne=b-380234 (http://iphone.lequipe.fr/serv/LequipeiPhone?com=newsdefev2frXHT1&chrono=yes&idne=b-380234)

FootballFoot - Transferts
Everton convoite Ecuele Manga
21/06/13 08:52
Roberto Martinez, qui a remplacé David Moyes sur le banc d'Everton cet été, n'a pas oublié Bruno Ecuele Manga, qu'il convoitait déjà lorsqu'il entraînait Wigan. Selon nos informations, il est toujours très intéressé par le défenseur central de Lorient, sous contrat jusqu'en 2015.

Although looks pretty tenuous - it's says he'd looked at him while he was at Wigan.

Translation: Roberto Martinez, who has replaced David Moyes on Everton's bench this summer, has not forgotten Bruno Ecuele Manga, who he previously coveted when he managed Wigan. According to our information, he is still very interested in the Lorient central defender, under contract until 2015.

Good player. Big, strong, still young at 24. 38 caps for Gabon. Seems to have recovered from a knee ligament injury suffered prior to last season. Could be had for around £5M, perhaps.


Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Leslie Chow on June 21, 2013, 08:45:13 PM
Sign someone's or gods sake.

What fuck are these idiots doing?

Martinez appointment was an opportunity to make a statement on intent but yet again they are doing fuck all while manager tops up his tan in America!

One day everton fucking surprise us with some professional ambition you mongs.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: plumber on June 21, 2013, 08:59:07 PM
Sign someone's or gods sake.

What fuck are these idiots doing?

Martinez appointment was an opportunity to make a statement on intent but yet again they are doing fuck all while manager tops up his tan in America!

One day everton fucking surprise us with some professional ambition you mongs.

[tool]
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Polledreng on June 21, 2013, 09:11:35 PM
[tool]
this
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Silas on June 21, 2013, 09:28:43 PM
No point having the function if you are going to actively tell people you have tooled them.   Just press the button and leave them to it.  No need to jump on people.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: phillyt on June 21, 2013, 09:37:54 PM
Sign someone's or gods sake.

What fuck are these idiots doing?

Martinez appointment was an opportunity to make a statement on intent but yet again they are doing fuck all while manager tops up his tan in America!

One day everton fucking surprise us with some professional ambition you mongs.

Yes and no, I agree its dissapointing that a marquee (or at least as marquee as Everton can afford) hasn't arrived or been agreed, especially as we are watching villa, the shite and saints make some decent looking captures. I think however it is prudent to get the squad together, see who wants to stay who wants to go, who isn't good enough, who is good enough them judge where the priority is to spend money, the players are probably feeling the same, is the new managr going to rate them, give them.a breakthrough or are they going to get shipped ou t?  I believe martinez officially starts 1st July and while I suspect he has been doing research on the current and potential players I dont expect any real movement to happen till then. I reckon that first week will be a busy one tho.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on June 21, 2013, 09:47:54 PM
Phillyt is spot on. How can he make any signings when he hasn't a clue what he's dealing with yet?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 21, 2013, 09:59:47 PM
Phillyt is spot on. How can he make any signings when he hasn't a clue what he's dealing with yet?
what difference does that make. We should just be buying players.... Any players to show intent
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blue slug on June 21, 2013, 10:02:38 PM
Can see Phillyts point but still fucking annoying seeing others doing seemingly good business
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on June 21, 2013, 10:03:59 PM
We were never really quick out of the blocks on these things anyway.

Changing a manager isn't going to speed this up.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 21, 2013, 10:05:54 PM
No point having the function if you are going to actively tell people you have tooled them.   Just press the button and leave them to it.  No need to jump on people.

Double the pleasure.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Ross on June 21, 2013, 10:14:22 PM
Can see Phillyts point but still fucking annoying seeing others doing seemingly good business

I'm not sure where you get the "seemingly good business" from really. Yes other clubs have been quite active already, but we can't judge their new players worth until the seasons well under way. We might leave it untll the 31st August  and pull off 3 of the best transfers in this window but we won't know if they are until well after Christmas.

Spending money early doesn't guarantee it's money well spent.

Like Philly says Martinez and the current players need a period of reflection to size each other up before he begins moulding the squad his way.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blue slug on June 21, 2013, 10:26:28 PM
Well here are few what i would call good players which have been signed already: villa - okore, fulham - steklenberg, man city - fernandinho, navas, norwich - van wolfswinkel, southampton - louvren

There maybe more but these are all i can think of
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on June 21, 2013, 10:52:15 PM
Well here are few what i would call good players which have been signed already: villa - okore, fulham - steklenberg, man city - fernandinho, navas, norwich - van wolfswinkel, southampton - louvren

There maybe more but these are all i can think of

At one point we were linked to young Dutch defender Virgil van Dijk. He's just signed for Celtic.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 21, 2013, 10:55:43 PM
At one point we were linked to young Dutch defender Virgil van Dijk. He's just signed for Celtic.
i thought i recognized his name
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: di_guyo on June 21, 2013, 11:24:49 PM
Well here are few what i would call good players which have been signed already: villa - okore, fulham - steklenberg, man city - fernandinho, navas, norwich - van wolfswinkel, southampton - louvren

There maybe more but these are all i can think of

You make a good point lad, we should have signed Fernandinho :badum:
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on June 22, 2013, 12:21:25 AM
Not even fucking July yet and people have already started moaning that we haven't signed someone.

Pathetic.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: tonysoprano on June 22, 2013, 12:22:53 AM
what difference does that make. We should just be buying players.... Any players to show intent
one of the most moronic statements ever posted  ,yes lets sign anyone shite or not, are you forgetting something? we are financially constrained
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on June 22, 2013, 12:24:00 AM
Can see Phillyts point but still fucking annoying seeing others doing seemingly good business

Why tho? Do you expect us to be the only club in the league to do good business?

Proper grinds my gears on here when people come out with "Its gonna be a long summer" just cos Villa have signed some unknown right back.

Moan on the 1st of September if we haven't signed anyone by then.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 22, 2013, 12:25:06 AM
one of the most moronic statements ever posted  ,yes lets sign anyone shite or not, are you forgetting something? we are financially constrained
i was taking the piss O0
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on June 22, 2013, 01:03:39 AM
If you're an Everton player at the moment, and you haven't spoken to Martinez face to face yet due to post season holidays then how would you feel if he went and bought a decent player in your position?

Martinez has no idea what attitude certain players will have towards the new season because he hasn't spoke to them properly, so considering our tight budget how can people expect him to buy players without assessing the whole situation first?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Bluedylan on June 22, 2013, 01:07:14 AM
Well here are few what i would call good players which have been signed already: villa - okore, fulham - steklenberg, man city - fernandinho, navas, norwich - van wolfswinkel, southampton - louvren

There maybe more but these are all i can think of

Amorebieta as well.

It's no-one's fault because obviously we had a new manager issue to sort out, but if we could've got Steklenberg and Amorebieta on free transfers, like Fulham, we'd be in a fantastic position (and able to really spend on a top class midfielder and striker). Both top class additions for no money. Real shame.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Lapeno on June 22, 2013, 01:33:29 AM
Amorebieta as well.

It's no-one's fault because obviously we had a new manager issue to sort out, but if we could've got Steklenberg and Amorebieta on free transfers, like Fulham, we'd be in a fantastic position (and able to really spend on a top class midfielder and striker). Both top class additions for no money. Real shame.

Didn't realise Stekelenburg was on a free. That would have been a good bit of business to pick him up.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 22, 2013, 01:54:18 AM
Didn't realise Stekelenburg was on a free. That would have been a good bit of business to pick him up.


He wasnt. But 2 good signings for Fulham, Amorebieta & Stekelenburg!.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on June 22, 2013, 02:00:13 AM
Didn't realise Stekelenburg was on a free. That would have been a good bit of business to pick him up.

He wasn't. Fulham bought him from Roma for somewhere in the neighborhood of £5M.

Speaking of keepers, our neighbours have apparently agreed a fee of £11M+ for Mignolet. Is he that much of an improvement over Reina, really?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: SpankRock on June 22, 2013, 02:26:59 AM
Perhaps Martinez and co. deem all those players above not good enough or poor value. Patience people, its still bloody June!

His first few signings will also be very heavily scrutinised by us so its understandable he isnt rushing.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Bacarelle on June 22, 2013, 02:28:36 AM
He wasn't. Fulham bought him from Roma for somewhere in the neighborhood of £5M.

Speaking of keepers, our neighbours have apparently agreed a fee of £11M+ for Mignolet. Is he that much of an improvement over Reina, really?

Probably not, but they have to waste £20mil in order to keep up with the standard they set for Carroll.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Everton Mint on June 22, 2013, 02:45:27 AM
Would be nice to see some activity but its a different scenario with having a new manager who still has to meet the players and watch them in training...

I dont expect much in terms of incoming transfers until the players return... unless he has a definite Wigan player or players he definitely wants.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 22, 2013, 02:45:52 AM
He wasn't. Fulham bought him from Roma for somewhere in the neighborhood of £5M.

Speaking of keepers, our neighbours have apparently agreed a fee of £11M+ for Mignolet. Is he that much of an improvement over Reina, really?


In time i think he will cos he's shopwing the makings of being a top GK IMO. But £11m for him at present is steep.

Really think we should be looking at a keeper to take over from Howard sooner rather than later as Howard isnt getting any younger.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blueski on June 22, 2013, 02:48:07 AM
Not even fucking July yet and people have already started moaning that we haven't signed someone.

Pathetic.
This

I think we need to accept that martinez just started at his job and will be a couple of weeks behind other managers in the transfer market, at least at the beginning
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Bluedylan on June 22, 2013, 07:45:10 AM
This

I think we need to accept that martinez just started at his job and will be a couple of weeks behind other managers in the transfer market, at least at the beginning

Yeah, I would agree (I'm sure most people would, in fairness). It's natural to feel like other people are leaving us behind, doing their business early. I imagine we'll start seeing an increase in movement over the next couple of weeks, so that we can get players bedded in for pre-season. Also we've probably got some bids lodged (at a guess).

I would much prefer us to keep our targets close to our chest and then just spring them out of the blue, rather than being linked with x,y and z and then have them drag on and on in the media for weeks, until Newcastle gazump us with higher wages. Absolutely no need to stress about things at the moment. 

Really looking forward to seeing what Martinez has in mind, and feeling optimistic about the direction we're going to move in.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Mick 1995 on June 22, 2013, 04:16:51 PM
To be honest, i'd be surprised if we bought anybody before the end of this US tournament.
I reckon he will want to watch them play.

In saying that, one of the aspects of Martinez' "pro" coloumn that the other candidates didnt have was 'How well he will know our squad'.
He will have scouted the fuck out of us at least twice a year for the last 4 years. he knows our players well and no doubt would have asked/been provided with a full brief by Moyes, so i may have just argued against my point.

Still, besides maybe a free transfer or 2, i dont expect to spend any money until August really.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 22, 2013, 09:08:03 PM
To be honest, i'd be surprised if we bought anybody before the end of this US tournament.
I reckon he will want to watch them play.

In saying that, one of the aspects of Martinez' "pro" column that the other candidates didn't have was 'How well he will know our squad'.
He will have scouted the fuck out of us at least twice a year for the last 4 years. he knows our players well and no doubt would have asked/been provided with a full brief by Moyes, so i may have just argued against my point.

Still, besides maybe a free transfer or 2, i don't expect to spend any money until August really.



Haha think you have mate!. I put this argument forward on another forum about Martinez scouting us and knowing are strengths and weaknesses due to the amount of times we played Wigan last years and years before that!.

He'll know where were lacking in order to improve us to try and get us to that next level already i would imagine but it's all down to money. We probs have a bit but not enough just yet to make big strides in the market. Think once Felli goes then we'll make serious moves to bring quality players in!.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: oscar on June 23, 2013, 12:42:59 AM
If he's not looking to buy, why is he telling us that transfers are in the pipeline
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Running Blue on June 23, 2013, 12:52:03 AM
If he's not looking to buy, why is he telling us that transfers are in the pipeline

He didn't.  The title of the article told us that.  There's a difference.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Trowel on June 23, 2013, 04:59:36 AM
Quote
Liverpool, Everton and Cardiff City have joined Southampton in the race for Celtic midfielder Victor Wanyama.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/2013/06/22/4067501/-? (http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/2013/06/22/4067501/-?)


Duncan Castles is a pretty sound journalist, but I imagine at this stage it's just a guess we'll be interested on the assumption that Fellaini is off.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on June 23, 2013, 04:12:33 PM
Rumours all over twitter that we're in for Honda. I know we were linked with him ages ago but surely these latest rumours have been started by someone who reads NSNO?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Silas on June 23, 2013, 04:17:35 PM
Would love it to be true,  top player
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 23, 2013, 04:20:09 PM
The Honda rumours are really revving up at the moment. Maybe we can crank up the pressure and get him to sign. It could start a chain of impressive signings that could kickstart our season.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Trowel on June 23, 2013, 04:35:05 PM
Rumours all over twitter that we're in for Honda. I know we were linked with him ages ago but surely these latest rumours have been started by someone who reads NSNO?

It's in The Star today, nothing more.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Makis on June 23, 2013, 04:48:53 PM
If he's that good there will be a queue of teams behind his door, and many of those will pay more & offer European football.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 23, 2013, 06:44:55 PM
If he's that good there will be a queue of teams behind his door, and many of those will pay more & offer European football.


Apparently wants a crack at the prem and play in same league as Kagawa as he's heard good things about the league from his Japanese team mate?!.

Think a move to us would be good for him as were a good side but need players of his quality to try and step up and become better. And Kagawa would help him to settle into the north west if they got homes near each other?!. Makes sense Honda, come to us for fuck sake!  ;D
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: BrotherEstapol on June 23, 2013, 06:53:37 PM
Would love Honda to come to us, but I can't see it falling out way...just a hunch is all. :(
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: keiko on June 23, 2013, 07:27:21 PM
There is almost nothing in the press of Japan mentioning everton. 99% is talking about him going to ac milan, and that honda wants to go to milan or a similar big club.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Redartin on June 23, 2013, 07:49:58 PM
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/322056/Roberto-Martinez-revved-up-for-Keisuke-Honda-at-Everton/ (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/322056/Roberto-Martinez-revved-up-for-Keisuke-Honda-at-Everton/)

In this article it says Honda's contract is up and he is available on a free.

A lot of contract will expire on June 30 and while we may not get Honda we may get the likes of Alcaraz in early July.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: keiko on June 23, 2013, 08:09:13 PM
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/322056/Roberto-Martinez-revved-up-for-Keisuke-Honda-at-Everton/ (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/322056/Roberto-Martinez-revved-up-for-Keisuke-Honda-at-Everton/)

In this article it says Honda's contract is up and he is available on a free.

A lot of contract will expire on June 30 and while we may not get Honda we may get the likes of Alcaraz in early July.

honda's contract with cska ends at the end of december 2013. of course clubs could still buy him now for relatively little as he is definitely leaving that club. but he is not available for free right now. that article is not true!

apparenly, zaccheroni (japan's coach) has had a lot of contact from ac milan about this transfer, and they have watched him a lot recently. they are definitely the favourites to sign honda right now, and negotiate  a lower fee, but it's not completely certain that he will go there of course. but i am sure he won't be signing for everton, disappointing as i would be very happy if he did.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 23, 2013, 08:17:22 PM
honda's contract with cska ends at the end of december 2013. of course clubs could still buy him now for relatively little as he is definitely leaving that club. but he is not available for free right now. that article is not true!

apparenly, zaccheroni (japan's coach) has had a lot of contact from ac milan about this transfer, and they have watched him a lot recently. they are definitely the favourites to sign honda right now, and negotiate  a lower fee, but it's not completely certain that he will go there of course. but i am sure he won't be signing for everton, disappointing as i would be very happy if he did.


I hold hope that its true that he wants to play in the prem, but if Milan come calling, your not gonna turn them down are ya?!!.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: BrotherEstapol on June 23, 2013, 08:23:41 PM
There is almost nothing in the press of Japan mentioning everton. 99% is talking about him going to ac milan, and that honda wants to go to milan or a similar big club.
Thanks for the info! ;D
How accurate are the Japanese press on such things?

I imagine the UK press are just connecting the dots since Kagawa is at Utd...
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: keiko on June 23, 2013, 08:24:03 PM

I hold hope that its true that he wants to play in the prem, but if Milan come calling, your not gonna turn them down are ya?!!.

if milan make an offer, he will go there, but if they decide not to sign honda, there could be a chance of coming to england. let's wait an see!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: keiko on June 23, 2013, 08:38:46 PM
Thanks for the info! ;D
How accurate are the Japanese press on such things?

I imagine the UK press are just connecting the dots since Kagawa is at Utd...

I also think the english press have been reading some online  forums, ha ha. I doubt that kagawa being in england will make much difference to honda, as he moved to russia from holland and japan, there is no big deal about relocating and being homesick for most japanese! although i think honda would like to play in england... or spain, italy... for a big club. in the interview after yesterday's match, he said that more japanese players need to be at the top clubs in the big leagues in europe.

the japanese press are closer to the players than the english press to the english players, and japanese players in foreign leagues get a lot of coverage. with honda, i think it's true that Zaccheroni has recommended milan to sign him,, and they have been talking about honda to ac milan for a while.  he has been linked to a few other clubs too, fiorentina, etc, but milan seem to be favourites. but of course it's still rumours until he actually signs for a club! I am hoping for a surprise.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: keiko on June 23, 2013, 08:39:30 PM
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Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MarcusFenix on June 23, 2013, 09:26:48 PM
On Skysports Twitter

https://twitter.com/SkySporttsNewss/status/348788428655173633
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 23, 2013, 09:53:58 PM
On Skysports Twitter

https://twitter.com/SkySporttsNewss/status/348788428655173633


Hahaha thats the fake SSN twitter account, just look down there timeline at some other belters!.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MarcusFenix on June 23, 2013, 10:05:05 PM

Hahaha thats the fake SSN twitter account, just look down there timeline at some other belters!.

To be honest my nephew told me about this, I told him there is no way Everton could get a player like Hulk but he kept saying that you never know.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blue slug on June 27, 2013, 05:33:15 PM
Daily Mail is saying we are signing Kone and Alcarez on friday apparently. I fucking hope this isnt all we can expect for our summer transfers as very grim signing to average 30 year olds from a relegated team
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: steve81 on June 27, 2013, 05:40:23 PM
Roberto Martinez is due to wrap up the double signing of striker Arouna Kone and centre-back Antolin Alcaraz on Friday.

The Everton manager is launching his Goodison Park reign with a raid on old club Wigan for £5m Kone and free agent Alcaraz.

Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Gary Iceman on June 27, 2013, 06:39:28 PM
ffs  :headbang:
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Cozzie on June 27, 2013, 06:41:14 PM
Wouldn't be too bothered about alcaraz.

International player on a free, 30 isnt too old for a centre back like.

Kone im a bit worried about though.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: ajax_andy on June 27, 2013, 07:01:52 PM
Wouldn't be too bothered about alcaraz.

International player on a free, 30 isnt too old for a centre back like.

Kone im a bit worried about though.

Last season we had Jelavic and Anichebe

Next season we'll have Jelavic, Kone and Anichebe

Might not be awe inspiring but it's definitely an improvement in terms of depth for not a massive outlay.

3 players all capable of scoring 8-15 goals a season for a combined total of about £10m is about all we can hope for sadly
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blue slug on June 27, 2013, 07:17:17 PM
I think even we should be setting our sights higher than these pair ajax_andy
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: di_guyo on June 27, 2013, 07:38:22 PM
I think even we should be setting our sights higher than these pair ajax_andy

All well and good setting your sights higher, but without the budget it then becomes somewhat of a pipedream.

I think there's surely better value to be had out there, but it depends on priorities. For the immediate future, Kone will walk into our team...does he have resale value, no, but if he could fire us in to Europe then it would be well worth the money. Not that he's a worldbeater that's going to lead the team, but we missed so many opportunities last season and were so weak up top...he did a very good job for an otherwise quite poor Wigan side...given the chances that we'd create, I'd be confident in him being a 10 goal+ striker, and that could make the difference.

All that said, if it was up to me then I probably wouldn't sign him for 5 or more....would prefer a younger option...but I wouldn't be overly worried about it if we did sign him.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: BrotherEstapol on June 27, 2013, 07:51:31 PM
Will be all good when we get Honda. 8)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on June 27, 2013, 08:00:20 PM
Much regarding our perception of any deals we do (at present) depends on whether we "know" that Felli is going or not.

If the current round of "targets" are true AND we are confident/know that Felli is staying then they're obviously underwhelming. Not disasters by any means, just not ones to get anyone really excited for the coming season.

However if they're true and we are certain that Felli will go and his fee will be used for more expensive/exciting signings then these more mundane players being used to fill out the squad won't seem bad at all.

Obviously there's still the possibility that the targets aren't these people at all.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on June 27, 2013, 08:06:37 PM
Kone = no other striker will join this summer = no Benteke type signing who might propel us into the CL =
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Silas on June 27, 2013, 08:07:05 PM
Much regarding our perception of any deals we do (at present) depends on whether we "know" that Felli is going or not.

If the current round of "targets" are true AND we are confident/know that Felli is staying then they're obviously underwhelming. Not disasters by any means, just not ones to get anyone really excited for the coming season.

However if they're true and we are certain that Felli will go and his fee will be used for more expensive/exciting signings then these more mundane players being used to fill out the squad won't seem bad at all.

Obviously there's still the possibility that the targets aren't these people at all.

If we did it the other way round and an exciting signing a la Honda had come in first, people would be a lot more receptive I have no doubt about that.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on June 27, 2013, 08:21:47 PM
If we did it the other way round and an exciting signing a la Honda had come in first, people would be a lot more receptive I have no doubt about that.

Yes.

Although people have a tendency to want even more.

Therefore if we signed someone good and then bought these players then some would moan about how anticlimactic they were!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on June 27, 2013, 08:24:43 PM
I'd assume Honda would join AC Milan ahead of us. Hope not.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on June 27, 2013, 08:25:20 PM
Kone = no other striker will join this summer = no Benteke type signing who might propel us into the CL =

It might well mean that we're not after another striker yes; although a current one may also leave.

Assuming that they don't and we wouldn't go after another striker, it still wouldn't rule out finding someone to really propel us forward.

We could sign another wide forward who is capable of scoring 15+ goals. If we're playing 4-3-3 (or similar) this could be possible with the right player.

Or we could sign a play maker who's so good that we're creating chances that the forwards we do have can't miss and they're suddenly transformed into some who gets the amount of goals needed.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: plumber on June 27, 2013, 08:30:12 PM
After losing Moyes and having got morbid badge and piss-poor kit, my sarcasmometer has gone funny.
Do some people really think we could sign Honda?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: di_guyo on June 27, 2013, 08:31:11 PM
People need to drop that 'Benteke-like' mentality as well. As successful as he was, for each Benteke there's plenty of flops...he was a bit of a gamble by Villa and it paid off. Everyone would be skeptical is we went out and signed a 7 mil striker unproven at this level.

I'd LOVE us to get Honda, but I very much doubt it will happen. He wants to join a big club.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blue slug on June 27, 2013, 08:32:36 PM
Judging who we were going to sign in January then roberto should have at leats £15-20m to spend without selling so why shouldnt we be setting our sights a bit higher. Not a pipe dream mate we were apparently in for Fer and Negrado in Jan now thats turned to fucking Kone and Alcarez.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: di_guyo on June 27, 2013, 08:47:58 PM
We're linked with all sorts every window. Alcaraz is a free and a backup, you can't be complaining there really. Fer may well be very good, but he's unproven...you can't put him on a pedestal because looking abroad is a bit more attractive... Kone did a good job at Wigan and outscored our strikers, despite them being relegated. What was our main weakness last season? Upfront, no? I'm not saying Kone is the perfect solution, but just don't think that comparison is fair. Also, do you actually think Negredo was realistic or a genuine link? I don't!

They might not even be all of our activity anyway...especially if Felli is off.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on June 27, 2013, 08:57:35 PM
Judging who we were going to sign in January then roberto should have at leats £15-20m to spend without selling so why shouldnt we be setting our sights a bit higher. Not a pipe dream mate we were apparently in for Fer and Negrado in Jan now thats turned to fucking Kone and Alcarez.

Who says we're not setting our sights higher? Alcaraz is going to be, barring injury, at worst our 3rd-choice CB. And Kone is reasonable depth, PL-experienced, and his form put him back into the CIV team.

If, as you said, there is £15-20M to spend, would you rather spunk it on one player (i.e. Negredo), and be forced to pick through scraps the likes of Nigel Reo-Coker to fill out a squad? That's fine until we pick up a couple injuries and suspensions, and are forced to play someone out of position or call a U21 player into the side before he's ready. Or would you rather fill out the squad with players capable of playing at the level we're at right now (pushing for European places), so that when the inevitable injuries/suspensions happen we have sufficient cover that the dropoff isn't as severe?

Still, with that £15-20M, we could bring in Alcaraz (free), Kone (at most 5M), Honda (7M, if that's accurate), Redmond (~3M), and a backup keeper (free to 1M), and still have up to £5M left over for another option up front like Cornelius, and maybe a cheeky loan (with an option to purchase, of course) for Barcelona's Deulofeu?

Me, I prefer the latter, if that's the level of funding that's truly there for Martinez to spend.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Verm on June 27, 2013, 08:58:03 PM
Judging who we were going to sign in January then roberto should have at leats £15-20m to spend without selling so why shouldnt we be setting our sights a bit higher. Not a pipe dream mate we were apparently in for Fer and Negrado in Jan now thats turned to fucking Kone and Alcarez.

You're probably looking at close to £25m for Fer and Negredo.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blue slug on June 27, 2013, 09:00:25 PM
You're probably looking at close to £25m for Fer and Negredo.


Fair point all i was saying is there is a massive difference in quality between fer/negrado and kone/alcarez. Somewhere inbetween would be nice
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: di_guyo on June 27, 2013, 09:25:34 PM
You're probably looking at close to £25m for Fer and Negredo.


Fair point all i was saying is there is a massive difference in quality between fer/negrado and kone/alcarez. Somewhere inbetween would be nice

Is there though? Neither have played in the prem. Negredo I would say is considerably better, but also more expensive....as for Fer, do you actually watch him regularly or are you just speculating? As I said, Alcaraz is a squad player on a free...not everyone can play in the first 11, but having some depth is just as important. I'm not even sure if Fer would go straight in either.

I think given our finances and the lack of European football we can't expect too much. If we can improve the squad that's the main thing. One of the players goes straight into our starting 11 and the other strengthens our options at the back should we pick up an injury. The main problem with Kone, in my view, is his age and the lack of resale value and the fact we already have an aging squad....sooner rather than later we need to invest in some younger players, as in a couple of seasons there will be quite a few that are past it that we'll need to replace.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Bluedylan on June 27, 2013, 09:34:04 PM

and still have up to £5M left over for another option up front like Cornelius

Cornelius is on the verge of joining Cardiff for £8mill, and Bony looks like he's on the way to Swansea for £10mill. Gutted.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Makis on June 27, 2013, 09:51:35 PM
Cornelius has only ever played in the Danish league so it's far from given he will make it in the PL. There is quite a high chance that he will flop.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on June 27, 2013, 09:53:23 PM
Cornelius is on the verge of joining Cardiff for £8mill, and Bony looks like he's on the way to Swansea for £10mill. Gutted.

Good bit of business for Copenhagen, that. Don't know that a 20-year old player with one (quite good, to be fair) season in the Danish league is worth £8M. I might have been willing to go for half of that, maybe up to £5M. He's certainly quite the physical specimen, and could look decent alongside Bellamy.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blue slug on June 27, 2013, 10:03:03 PM
Cornelius is on the verge of joining Cardiff for £8mill, and Bony looks like he's on the way to Swansea for £10mill. Gutted.

This is what i am getting at, the likes of cardiff, swansea and soutampton all seem to be able to spend bigger than us and we are consistently top 8 in the premier with an amazing history too.

Sorry to rant it just really winds me up
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on June 27, 2013, 10:33:42 PM
Cornelius has only ever played in the Danish league so it's far from given he will make it in the PL. There is quite a high chance that he will flop.
You can't beat a good flop.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: evertonarntwe on June 27, 2013, 11:34:16 PM
would rather us take a chance on someone younger abroad than a 29 year old average kone. really really hope we dont get him. not in the slightest moving forward signing the likes of him
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Danny on June 27, 2013, 11:54:35 PM
This is what i am getting at, the likes of cardiff, swansea and soutampton all seem to be able to spend bigger than us and we are consistently top 8 in the premier with an amazing history too.

Sorry to rant it just really winds me up

Their wage budgets will all be tiny in comparison to ours.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on June 28, 2013, 01:03:02 AM
Their wage budgets will all be tiny in comparison to ours.

There's this and also they'll be able to go into debt as they probably have very little in comparison to us.

Not to mention whether someone is willing to be a benefactor.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 28, 2013, 03:32:58 AM
Depending on the financial outlay, I think the possible 3 signings of Alcaraz, Kone & McGeady are decent buys.

Alcaraz for free to be third choice and back up makes sense to me!. We can sell Heitinga now and hopefully get £2-3m for him to put to the kitty and a cut of his wages can go to Alcaraz and the rest towards McGeady's & Kone's!.

McGeady IF we can get him cheap, will be a good squad player to have for wide areas. He'll add much needed cover out there and competition for that matter, I think he'll be a decent addition for us.

And Kone isn't as bad as some are making out. Yeah he's 29 verging on 30, but he's a seasoned pro, knows how Martinez works and wants to play for him and us, and he's a big improvement on Anichebe IMO. Yes, £6m or £6.5m is steep for him but who knows what his release clause is, except Martinez!. You never know, it might be cheaper, ive heard around £5m, which isn't bad in this day and age.

Im pretty sure that Martinez wouldn't blow most, if all of his budget on these 3 as we need players for other areas too (GK, CB, AMC), but these 3 possible signings are a good start IMO and will add to the squad.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Silas on June 28, 2013, 04:21:21 AM
Can't argue with much of that Aidy, Heitinga's wages likely largely cover those signings.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Grand Master C on June 28, 2013, 04:40:39 AM
would rather us take a chance on someone younger abroad than a 29 year old average kone. really really hope we dont get him. not in the slightest moving forward signing the likes of him

Not sure this is the summer to take huge risks on young players. We have had such huge changes at the club, we have lost a manager, a good chunk of backroom staff and a long standing captain in one summer.

Get people we know can be relied on to perform this summer, stabilise our league position, then kick on with bigger risks next summer or even January. No one wants to do a Villa.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 28, 2013, 04:44:29 AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-transfers-news-nathan-redmond-2003419
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: School of Science on June 28, 2013, 05:13:09 AM
 :thumbsup:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-transfers-news-nathan-redmond-2003419 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-transfers-news-nathan-redmond-2003419)


Looks a talented lad yes for me  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on June 28, 2013, 05:17:11 AM
2 goals and 5 assists from 38 championship games.

Pass.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 28, 2013, 05:20:05 AM
2 goals and 5 assists from 38 championship games.

Pass.
he is only 19 and at 2m looks a better option than mcgeady
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: di_guyo on June 28, 2013, 05:20:26 AM
2 goals and 5 assists from 38 championship games.

Pass.

He's only 19, give him a break he's not the complete player but he's got the tools. One of the few players to come out of the England Under 21s with some credit.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on June 28, 2013, 05:25:32 AM
19 or not, it's hardly worthy stats of a top 6 club to come calling.

I'd rather we bought players on talent, not age.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on June 28, 2013, 05:29:05 AM
Gimme redmond over gueye and velios any day of the week. We have took punts in the past why not with redmond. We would make money back off him. Like said before redmond over mcgeady for me
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on June 28, 2013, 05:43:35 AM
Redmond has talent but is very raw and would need to work hard to become a good Prem player. Problem is that B'ham dropped him last season for his attitude and poor application in training.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: billbones80 on June 28, 2013, 08:20:45 AM
Would take Redmond over Mcgeady! Remond has more potential.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Makis on June 28, 2013, 01:39:35 PM
You don't get a 19-year old complete winger from the Championship for £2 million. They cost in the region of £10 million. So obviously he is raw. Martinez has turned several raw wingers into really good players so I trust his judgement on this.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: christiffa25 on June 28, 2013, 03:08:42 PM
Redmond at 2M is a must for me!

Is he gonna be tearing it up for us next season? No... But he has massive potential, sell guaye who's place he can take in the squad.

No brainer.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: di_guyo on June 28, 2013, 04:01:17 PM
http://www.mundodeportivo.com/20130627/fc-barcelona/gerard-deulofeu-novias-peso-premier_54376339102.html (http://www.mundodeportivo.com/20130627/fc-barcelona/gerard-deulofeu-novias-peso-premier_54376339102.html)

highly unlikely given the other teams interested
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on June 28, 2013, 04:23:41 PM
http://www.mundodeportivo.com/20130627/fc-barcelona/gerard-deulofeu-novias-peso-premier_54376339102.html (http://www.mundodeportivo.com/20130627/fc-barcelona/gerard-deulofeu-novias-peso-premier_54376339102.html)

highly unlikely given the other teams interested

I suppose having a Spanish (and indeed Catalan) manager may help.

Also there'd be no point of him being loaned out if he's not likely to play - some of those teams wouldn't be able to guarantee him a place in the squad let alone the team.

Unlikely overall though!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Azz on June 28, 2013, 04:35:40 PM
We'd be a better prospect for a loan than anyone else to be honest, especially with Martinez in charge.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blue slug on June 28, 2013, 04:58:33 PM
He is meant to be one of the best prospects to come off the la masia conveyor belt in recent times
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Makis on June 28, 2013, 05:43:07 PM
http://www.mundodeportivo.com/20130627/fc-barcelona/gerard-deulofeu-novias-peso-premier_54376339102.html (http://www.mundodeportivo.com/20130627/fc-barcelona/gerard-deulofeu-novias-peso-premier_54376339102.html)

highly unlikely given the other teams interested
That's Torres in that picture, surely?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 28, 2013, 08:28:27 PM
Jeremie Aliadiere linked on twitter.  I may cry if our summer business is sell Fellaini and Baines and bring in Kone, McGeady, Alcaraz and Aliadiere!

Not that I believe most of them will happen!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Makis on June 28, 2013, 08:31:19 PM
That Korean from Bolton has been apparently linked to us on SSN.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Sir Stealth on June 28, 2013, 08:36:04 PM
That Korean from Bolton has been apparently linked to us on SSN.

Mgp will be loving this
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on June 28, 2013, 08:58:57 PM
I suppose having a Spanish (and indeed Catalan) manager may help.

Also there'd be no point of him being loaned out if he's not likely to play - some of those teams wouldn't be able to guarantee him a place in the squad let alone the team.

Unlikely overall though!

He's been impressive at the U20s. Plays wide mostly, so we would have options if he came in. Play him on the right and push Mirallas up top, or on the left and let Pienaar create through the middle.

Not sure what to make of the article, as it claims Arsenal are the present favorites, yet Barcelona want him to play--would he at Arsenal? Also, it gives me pause that they don't want to include a purchase option in the loan deal; while it may help us in the short term, it wouldn't do us a whole lot of good past this year.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Trowel on June 28, 2013, 09:02:36 PM
SSN reporting Fer's agent as saying stories he's to have a medical at Norwich next week are "premature"... Still wants to play in PL though.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on June 28, 2013, 09:06:32 PM
Some noise about going for Joel Robles as the backup for Tim Howard. Could do much worse than that, and he doesn't really have a chance at Atletico with Courtois there (and Asenjo behind him).
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Bigjmill on June 28, 2013, 09:11:34 PM
Some noise about going for Joel Robles as the backup for Tim Howard. Could do much worse than that, and he doesn't really have a chance at Atletico with Courtois there (and Asenjo behind him).

would take that, no point in spending a fortune on a 2nd keeper
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: dekko on June 28, 2013, 09:11:55 PM
On 28 June 2013 a deal between Atlético Madrid and Everton Football Club was announced on the Club website confirming Joel is in talks with Everton after both clubs agreeing a €3.5 million deal. Joel will travel back to England where he enjoyed his time playing for Wigan Athletic and will undergo a medical examination at Finch Farm ahead of a 5 year deal.



Don't know how reliable that is.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: steve81 on June 28, 2013, 09:12:36 PM
On 28 June 2013 a deal between Atlético Madrid and Everton Football Club was announced on the Club website confirming Joel is in talks with Everton after both clubs agreeing a €3.5 million deal. Joel will travel back to England where he enjoyed his time playing for Wigan Athletic and will undergo a medical examination at Finch Farm ahead of a 5 year deal.



Don't know how reliable that is.
wikipedia
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: dekko on June 28, 2013, 09:15:12 PM
hi mate wheres that from

A friend emailed me that. I can't find it on the official site though.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on June 28, 2013, 09:15:17 PM
wikipedia

Yeah, don't believe that. The same guy changed Honda's page yesterday to say he was coming.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: dekko on June 28, 2013, 09:16:46 PM
I hate Wikipedia!!

How good is Robles?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: steve81 on June 28, 2013, 09:19:41 PM
I hate Wikipedia!!

How good is Robles?
honestly havent heard anything about him other than he was at wigan on loan
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Trowel on June 28, 2013, 09:21:17 PM
Sky Italy reporting us bidding £5m for Honda. Suspect it's a rehash of the gossip the other day.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Bigjmill on June 28, 2013, 09:27:29 PM
honestly havent heard anything about him other than he was at wigan on loan

Just asked my wigan mate, reckons he was a really good keeper and would challenge Howard
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on June 28, 2013, 09:27:59 PM
I hate Wikipedia!!

How good is Robles?

Good enough to displace Al-Habsi, at least. Didn't make a fool of himself at Wigan. Very much the type of keeper (young with potential) I'd like as a backup.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: di_guyo on June 28, 2013, 09:33:39 PM
Good keeper. I support Atletico, and he was considered a brighter prospect that De Gea for a while but had a number of injuries. If it wasn't for Courtois he might have established himself more. I like him, for his age he's good enough to provide a decent challenge to Howard and then come in in a season or 2 and be the main man for years to come.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Gash on June 28, 2013, 09:40:18 PM
Good keeper. I support Atletico, and he was considered a brighter prospect that De Gea for a while but had a number of injuries. If it wasn't for Courtois he might have established himself more. I like him, for his age he's good enough to provide a decent challenge to Howard and then come in in a season or 2 and be the main man for years to come.

That's what I want. Someone to actually challenge him for his place rather than just take a wage on the bench. A decent number 2 would have seen Howard's place in serious jeopardy last season.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on June 28, 2013, 09:41:41 PM
That's what I want. Someone to actually challenge him for his place rather than just take a wage on the bench. A decent number 2 would have seen Howard's place in serious jeopardy last season.

I disagree, I don't think Moyes would have dropped him even if he had a decent enough replacement.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Gash on June 28, 2013, 09:47:53 PM
I disagree, I don't think Moyes would have dropped him even if he had a decent enough replacement.

Well there is that. He should have been if we had a decent replacement though.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Polledreng on June 28, 2013, 10:32:14 PM
Well there is that. He should have been if we had a decent replacement though.
Mucha didn't put a foot (or hand) wrong when he replaced Howard, but was dropped as soon as Howard was fit, so I think I'm, with shogun on this one. (I know Mucha hadn't done anything earlier to support my trust in him - and I agree with you that we need a strong second keeper. ) One of the few things I didn't like with Moyes was he was very very loyal to his first 11. So loyal that it seemed as though he sometimes didn't give them enough rest.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Gash on June 28, 2013, 10:38:17 PM
Mucha didn't put a foot (or hand) wrong when he replaced Howard, but was dropped as soon as Howard was fit, so I think I'm, with shogun on this one. (I know Mucha hadn't done anything earlier to support my trust in him - and I agree with you that we need a strong second keeper. ) One of the few things I didn't like with Moyes was he was very very loyal to his first 11. So loyal that it seemed as though he sometimes didn't give them enough rest.

Man for man Mucha isn't as good a keeper as Howard. He may have done OK and it really was just OK when Howard was out, and maybe was harshly dropped straight away, but I know who I'd prefer in goal between the two of them. We need a keeper that will give the manager a decision to make every week, Mucha was never that keeper.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: SPJ on June 28, 2013, 10:41:44 PM
Nothing on the Athletico website as far as I can see
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: di_guyo on June 28, 2013, 10:51:45 PM
Nothing on the Athletico website as far as I can see

There's no h and the source was wikipedia, it's bullshit. The rumours just been on twitter and a few other pages, nothing more than that.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: brap2 on June 28, 2013, 11:04:07 PM
Mgp will be loving this

proper classic MGP shout.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Chazman on June 28, 2013, 11:13:19 PM
 
 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-transfer-news-keisuke-honda-2006793? (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-transfer-news-keisuke-honda-2006793?)

The Mirror is reporting that we are in pole position for Honda
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: true1891blue on June 28, 2013, 11:32:44 PM
Its all over twitter and if U google this there's storys galore about biding 5m I dealt hope we get him
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Analog Kid on June 29, 2013, 07:01:27 AM
The Mirror also running a story about us being in for St.. Etienne striker Aubameyang. Rated at 15m, Anzhi and the geordie twats are also interested.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Makis on June 29, 2013, 05:27:39 PM
Where's the money, Bill?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: AidyEFC9 on June 29, 2013, 06:05:59 PM
The Mirror also running a story about us being in for St.. Etienne striker Aubameyang. Rated at 15m, Anzhi and the geordie twats are also interested.


Says either in that report or elsewhere that Newcastle have had a £15m bid rejected already. I'd be surprised if that was true and if that's how much he'd go for?!.

But he would be a good signing, can play up top on his own, can play in a forward 3 if Martinez wanted to play 3 upfront?!.

Signings like this though all depend on departures.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Thornton_19 on June 29, 2013, 06:28:28 PM
The Mirror also running a story about us being in for St.. Etienne striker Aubameyang. Rated at 15m, Anzhi and the geordie twats are also interested.

He tore my Everton team a new arsehole on Football manager in the Europa league.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Polledreng on June 29, 2013, 07:11:44 PM
Man for man Mucha isn't as good a keeper as Howard. He may have done OK and it really was just OK when Howard was out, and maybe was harshly dropped straight away, but I know who I'd prefer in goal between the two of them. We need a keeper that will give the manager a decision to make every week, Mucha was never that keeper.
I agree that Howard is a better keeper. But he was playing very bad, when he got injured, and Mucha didn't deserve to get dropped. I also agree on that we need a better second keeper in Mucha so the spanish guy would be OK with me. And I'm sure Martinez will choose him (or another second keeper) if he feels Howard isn't up to it. Howard did end the season on a high though.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Inchy on June 29, 2013, 09:17:07 PM
My hope is that we can keep Bainsey.

And in my dream of a far away land I'd like to think we could lure Rooney but of course not for 25 mil, maybe more like a parting gift from Moysie.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on June 29, 2013, 09:27:11 PM
What about a swap deal. Baines for Rooney then? :)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: christiffa25 on June 30, 2013, 01:13:16 PM
I agree that Howard is a better keeper. But he was playing very bad, when he got injured, and Mucha didn't deserve to get dropped. I also agree on that we need a better second keeper in Mucha so the spanish guy would be OK with me. And I'm sure Martinez will choose him (or another second keeper) if he feels Howard isn't up to it. Howard did end the season on a high though.

No he wasn't, Howard was playing bad earlier in the season and at that point if we'd had better than Mucha definately warranted maybe a couple of games on the bench. By his injury he had picked up his form and IMO was 100% the correct decision to bring him back in when fit again.

We seem to jump on our players very quick here when they hit a bit of bad form (jelavic excluded for some reason) and also get carried away by a couple of decent performances (Duffy) when in truth our squad players are not up to the standard of our first 11. Even off form, it's a risk dropping them as the replacements ain't that good in comparison.

I do hope it's something we can improve on this summer. Having players on the bench of equal quality makes a big difference. Hopefully with Mucha Neville Hitz already gone, moving on the likes of Heitinga, Guaye, Naismith, vellios and maybe even jelavic, we can bring in players a better standard to offer more challange to the first 11.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: christiffa25 on June 30, 2013, 01:19:28 PM
What about a swap deal. Baines for Rooney then? :)

Would take that all day long. In fact it's the only thing that would cheer me up about loosing Baines.

If Rooney by some miracle came back here now, I'm not having it go down as a parting gift from moyes. It would be a redeemed yourself sir.....you can now be a hero again....much respect for giving up all that cash to come back!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Makis on June 30, 2013, 05:22:49 PM
Rooney is looking at wages aroung 250k/w. I doubt he'd take a paycut of almost 200k just to play for Everton.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: christiffa25 on July 01, 2013, 01:34:09 PM
Rooney is looking at wages aroung 250k/w. I doubt he'd take a paycut of almost 200k just to play for Everton.

That's just paper talk mate. I don't think any of this currently go on is about money or getting a new contract from utd. If he was just interested in money he could get it alot of places!

The lad has not been happy at utd for 18 months due to football reasons and he's seen his form suffer. It's not all about the money with Rooney currently....Not that I'm saying he wants to give up a shed load by coming here but the lad needs change and he knows it.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: brap2 on July 01, 2013, 01:50:26 PM
That's just paper talk mate. I don't think any of this currently go on is about money or getting a new contract from utd. If he was just interested in money he could get it alot of places!

The lad has not been happy at utd for 18 months due to football reasons and he's seen his form suffer. It's not all about the money with Rooney currently....Not that I'm saying he wants to give up a shed load by coming here but the lad needs change and he knows it.

he does and i'm sure colleen will love paris!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: di_guyo on July 01, 2013, 03:04:39 PM
too early for rooney. i think he will play for us again, but after another contract. when he's 32 or something.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Makis on July 01, 2013, 03:11:35 PM
he does and i'm sure colleen will love paris!
Monaco would be pretty awesome as well.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: SpankRock on July 01, 2013, 04:53:08 PM
Redmond now 1/5 to join Norwich, so Sky Sports report. The thought of taking a gamble on a pacey, young prospect excited me too. Oh well.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 01, 2013, 05:00:49 PM
Monaco would be pretty awesome as well.

That would be much better.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: pjk on July 01, 2013, 05:08:57 PM
Redmond now 1/5 to join Norwich, so Sky Sports report. The thought of taking a gamble on a pacey, young prospect excited me too. Oh well.




Lets hope the bookies are wrong. Redmond is an absoloute steal at 2 mill. Imo.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Trowel on July 01, 2013, 05:24:21 PM
Sky just report Sky Bet odds as free marketing. I wouldn't pay any attention to them.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: david smallman on July 01, 2013, 05:28:14 PM



Lets hope the bookies are wrong. Redmond is an absoloute steal at 2 mill. Imo.
I have inside information on this like i had in january.
We like him and he is very interested in coming here but it all depends on the finances.
I know its early days but why are a lot of other clubs spending big with the tv sky money and we are having to sell before we can spend.
Where is our sky money going.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 01, 2013, 05:30:38 PM
I have inside information on this like i had in january.
We like him and he is very interested in coming here but it all depends on the finances.
I know its early days but why are a lot of other clubs spending big with the tv sky money and we are having to sell before we can spend.
Where is our sky money going.


Are we?

I thought we were buying at present because Martinez has been in the States and only starts the Everton job today. I'd imagine he wants to take stock on what he has before making moves in the market.

It's only a couple of clubs who are buying big. City have heaps of money anyway, and the shite are spending the Carol money.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: david smallman on July 01, 2013, 05:34:45 PM
Are we?

I thought we were buying at present because Martinez has been in the States and only starts the Everton job today. I'd imagine he wants to take stock on what he has before making moves in the market.

It's only a couple of clubs who are buying big. City have heaps of money anyway, and the shite are spending the Carol money.
No we are not buying at present but will be when Bainsey or Screech goes.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 01, 2013, 05:42:42 PM
I don't think our spend is dependent on either going. Sure if one goes, I expect us to buy someone with the money, but I expect we'll get players in regardless.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: wooly66 on July 01, 2013, 05:48:00 PM
Everton are using the Sky money to right the ship. We have been running at losses (bar the odd bumper player sale year) for the last decade. That cannot continue. Basically the new tv deal helps us stabilise.

Sadly we need to continue to ease some of our older/under-performing higher earners off the wage bill (bye-bye Jonny!) if we are to get both a better quality and deeper squad on limited funds. We don't have to sell-to-buy this summer, but we do have to sell wisely to buy well.

Elstone made it clear at the AGM that only a small portion of the Sky money would translate into higher wage bill and transfer fees for these reasons. We may not like it but this is the reality of supporting a club with an inadequate Board, old/limited ground and zero commercial acumen/weak commercial income streams.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Bigjmill on July 01, 2013, 07:20:57 PM
possibly the worst transfer rumour ever : http://www.turkish-football.com/news_read.php?id=4837 (http://www.turkish-football.com/news_read.php?id=4837)

Quote
Eveton and Southampton have been linked with a move for Fenerbahçe defender Joseph Yobo according to Turkish newspaper Fanatik.

Yobo recently denied rumours linking him with a move to Cardiff City and underlined that he has no intentions of leaving Fenerbahçe.

"My son goes to school in Istanbul and my family is happily settled in the city. I have no intentions of leaving," Yobo said.

"I am undergoing stem-cell therapy in the US and will be ready to take part in pre-season training."

However, Fenerbahçe are facing pressure as competition for foreign spaces increase.

The Turkish Football Federation only permits six foreign players on the pitch at any one time.

The Yellow Canaries now have 11 non-Turkish players and the Turkish Football Federation have just introduced a ruling which only permits 10 foreign players per-club for the 2013-14 season.

Yobo has years of Premier League experience having made 248 appearances for Everton over eight-seasons.

The 32-year-old defender joined Fenerbahçe from Everton last season - after spending two seasons on loan - for €2.5 million and made 34 appearances.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Trowel on July 01, 2013, 07:51:27 PM
"Where's the stem-cell therapy money Bill?"
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on July 02, 2013, 05:20:32 AM
Owen Coyle was just on the radio sating Kone is joining us
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 02, 2013, 05:22:57 AM
Owen Coyle was just on the radio sating Kone is joining us

Christ, Whelan has his personal spokesperson now!?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on July 03, 2013, 04:50:50 AM
Folks on Twitter reporting that Milan has agreed a fee for Keisuke Honda with CSKA Moscow. Will be a bit disappointed if it's affordable and we don't at least put in a bid.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Cozzie on July 03, 2013, 04:52:20 AM
Folks on Twitter reporting that Milan has agreed a fee for Keisuke Honda with CSKA Moscow. Will be a bit disappointed if it's affordable and we don't at least put in a bid.

Thing is though, if you are Honda, who are you gonna choose?

AC Milan, or Everton?

Not exactly a hard choice for him is it.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Amata on July 03, 2013, 05:10:28 AM
Junior Malanda who we were linked with earlier has terminated his contract and is a free agent.  Anyone know if he's decent?

Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 03, 2013, 05:12:22 AM
Junior Malanda who we were linked with earlier has terminated his contract and is a free agent.  Anyone know if he's decent?
highly thought of
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on July 03, 2013, 06:01:41 AM
Junior Malanda who we were linked with earlier has terminated his contract and is a free agent.  Anyone know if he's decent?



Captained the Belgium U19s, and is playing with the U21s as the next round of qualification starts. Won't actually turn 19 until right before the deadline.

Apparently he's called the "Brussels Beast" because of his physique--strong, low centre of gravity, etc. Anchored Zulte-Waregem's midfield as they took 2nd in the Jupiler League to qualify for the CL. Was linked to Fulham at £5M in January; us, Fulham, and Tottenham are supposedly looking at him. Now that he's free, he may be in more demand. Would be decent midfield cover, though not necessarily an immediate first-XI player. Good resale value, though. Could see him coming in and going off on loan for 6 months to get up to speed with the English game, depending on other signings.

(Speaking of other signings, Swansea are apparently paying £6M for the privilege of Jonjo Shelvey.)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: billbones80 on July 03, 2013, 07:35:38 AM
Junior Malanda who we were linked with earlier has terminated his contract and is a free agent.  Anyone know if he's decent?




Snap him up!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: christiffa25 on July 03, 2013, 10:49:37 AM
Belgian you say?

Get him in bobby!!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 03, 2013, 12:58:04 PM
Junior Malanda who we were linked with earlier has terminated his contract and is a free agent.  Anyone know if he's decent?

He's the new Marouanne Fellaini.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 03, 2013, 02:02:12 PM
Just glanced at the BBC Gossip column and it says the Star are linking us with Nathan Dyer, 5m.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 03, 2013, 02:09:42 PM
Just glanced at the BBC Gossip column and it says the Star are linking us with Nathan Dyer, 5m.
i don't mind dyer actually
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: di_guyo on July 03, 2013, 03:16:53 PM
Dyer? Jesus christ! I would be devastated if we spunked 5mil on him.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Ross on July 03, 2013, 03:29:10 PM
Just glanced at the BBC Gossip column and it says the Star are linking us with Nathan Dyer, 5m.

That just about sums up all these players we've been linked to this summer.

Dyer this, Dyer that..
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: BlueIsTheColour on July 03, 2013, 03:30:31 PM
Dyer is quick, skillful and scores a few too, I would actually be pretty pleased if this came off
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 03, 2013, 03:34:37 PM
Dyer? Jesus christ! I would be devastated if we spunked 5mil on him.

At least its not Kieron Dyer
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Trowel on July 03, 2013, 03:36:05 PM
There's many a good reason Dyer often starts on the Swansea bench - no strength or stamina, poor decision making, and lacks positional discipline. He's a Championship player.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Gash on July 03, 2013, 03:37:30 PM
The list of mediocre, uninspiring players getting linked with us grows by the day.

Although the list of players that have been bought/linked with Martinez over the years grows as well, so it's quite possibly just a bit of filling column inches?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 03, 2013, 04:01:31 PM
Proper want an exciting name to be linked with us!

A Marquee signing this Summer would be lovely
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: sharpattack on July 03, 2013, 04:07:48 PM
There's many a good reason Dyer often starts on the Swansea bench - no strength or stamina, poor decision making, and lacks positional discipline. He's a Championship player.
That makes him sound like Osman
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: BrotherEstapol on July 03, 2013, 04:21:37 PM
That makes him sound like Osman
Pack it in mate...
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: marky v on July 03, 2013, 04:22:06 PM
Proper want an exciting name to be linked with us!

A Marquee signing this Summer would be lovely

I agree squad fillers are fine but one player to get everyone excited will make a massive difference
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: goodison4 on July 03, 2013, 04:26:59 PM
There's many a good reason Dyer often starts on the Swansea bench - no strength or stamina, poor decision making, and lacks positional discipline. He's a Championship player.
totally disagree - good wide player which we will benefit from -
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: david smallman on July 03, 2013, 04:32:54 PM
I hope its true i rate him.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: di_guyo on July 03, 2013, 04:57:05 PM
There's many a good reason Dyer often starts on the Swansea bench - no strength or stamina, poor decision making, and lacks positional discipline. He's a Championship player.

Exactly this! Headless chicken. Pace is the one thing he has. If he's not good enough to play week in week out at Swansea he shouldn't be good enough for us. I refuse to accept there aren't better options available for 5 million than him
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on July 03, 2013, 05:11:34 PM
A shit version of Sinclair, who's shit anyway.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Rhys on July 03, 2013, 05:18:45 PM
totally disagree - good wide player which we will benefit from -

I've always thought he is average but big question is why does Wayne rout ledge start for Swansea ove him? Wayne Rutledge is barely average so to not get in the team over him leaves huge question marks.

In my opinion mcgeady can play both flanks, can take people on inside or out more successfully and is happy to put balls in with left and right foot.

If we were going for a squad filling pacey wide player for 4/5m out of those 2 I think mcgeady is a better player who would have a bigger impact.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blue slug on July 03, 2013, 07:37:51 PM
sinclair and dyer are both complete shite and if we are going to spend £5m on them i will be pissed off. Would rather have spent half the amount and took a risk with redmond
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Trowel on July 03, 2013, 07:39:01 PM
Would rather we pumped the £5m into Finch Farm.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 03, 2013, 07:43:10 PM
Bit concerned we're getting linked with players who have fuck all end product.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 03, 2013, 07:44:02 PM
We just seem to be getting linked to players who Bob has worked with before, I was hoping it was all lazy journalism
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on July 03, 2013, 07:49:50 PM
We just seem to be getting linked to players who Bob has worked with before, I was hoping it was all lazy journalism

I had assumed that it was lazy journalism but then two of the stories come true and it makes you wonder about the others!

We need at least 1 player who we've never heard of but who has an immense Youtube career to get excited about!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 03, 2013, 07:50:57 PM
We just seem to be getting linked to players who Bob has worked with before, I was hoping it was all lazy journalism

It may well just be lazy journalism. It is natural for a manager to target players who he knows and trusts though I suppose. Lets just hope its the better players he has worked with that we end up signing
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 03, 2013, 07:54:20 PM

We need at least 1 player who we've never heard of but who has an immense Youtube career to get excited about!

Defo

I was laughing yesterday on SSN they had clips of Bony and normally the forwards clips are of them finishing. Not this one, he heads one over and then misses a one on one!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on July 03, 2013, 07:55:28 PM
Bit concerned we're getting linked with players who have fuck all end product.

We do need pace in the team/squad.

However to get pace and end product requires either great scouting/luck or lots of money.

It's then down to a balance of what having that extra pace brings to the team vs how often the pacy player will mess up when in good positions.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 03, 2013, 07:57:09 PM
It may well just be lazy journalism. It is natural for a manager to target players who he knows and trusts though I suppose. Lets just hope its the better players he has worked with that we end up signing

Yeah I see that, Dyer tho?? Its been 4 years hasnt it since he left Swansea. Am awaiting the inevitable Paul Scharner link
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 03, 2013, 08:08:52 PM
We do need pace in the team/squad.

However to get pace and end product requires either great scouting/luck or lots of money.

It's then down to a balance of what having that extra pace brings to the team vs how often the pacy player will mess up when in good positions.

We got that with Mirallas for 5mil, and he was already quite a big name in europe.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Gash on July 03, 2013, 08:15:28 PM
It may well just be lazy journalism. It is natural for a manager to target players who he knows and trusts though I suppose. Lets just hope its the better players he has worked with that we end up signing

Jason Scotland anyone?  :eh:

Totally understand that, but I'd hope that Martinez is now at a level that we can attract a little better than a relegated clubs better/out of contract players and a player who isn't a regular starter at Swansea.

As has been said, it's early days yet, and no need to worry at the moment, but I'd really hope he can be a bit more adventurous than scraping around a couple of his former clubs.

On a positive, no paper has linked us with Gary fucking Caldwell yet.  ;D
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Rhys on July 03, 2013, 08:18:28 PM
We got that with Mirallas for 5mil, and he was already quite a big name in europe.

Hardly call him a big name in Europe now let alone last year. And he is a different type of winger, more forward and looked to get goals rather than create. But even with him it required an element of moyes knowing he was good and luck that he adapted to the english pace of the game. Not many wide players with pace have great quality and consistent end product from crosses, cut backs, final balls etc. some of the best in the country are Walcott and Lennon yet both have blistering pace, go past players easily but constantly get criticised for not doing enough when in the box. Not easy to combine pace with quality end product which is why they normally cost a lot of money.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: IUToffee on July 03, 2013, 08:50:15 PM
We got that with Mirallas for 5mil, and he was already quite a big name in europe.

Didn't we get Mirallas for that price as he had a clause in his contract at Olympiacos? Doubt he'd be available at for 5mil on the open market last year.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 03, 2013, 09:05:44 PM
That makes him sound like Osman

Dyer, like Osman, is a current England international. Both of them must be doing something right.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on July 03, 2013, 09:11:58 PM
It's be nice to get a keeper in soon.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on July 03, 2013, 09:49:00 PM
It'll be interesting to see if Baines comes out and says anything about the links to
united.

Last year he said http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2012/06/baines-not-impressed-by-united-links/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+NilSatisNisiOptimumNews+%28Nil+Satis+Nisi+Optimum%29 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2012/06/baines-not-impressed-by-united-links/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+NilSatisNisiOptimumNews+%28Nil+Satis+Nisi+Optimum%29)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 03, 2013, 10:09:49 PM
Dyer, like Osman, is a current England international. Both of them must be doing something right.

England does not have a very strong squad at present. Wouldn't read much into it to be honest.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: sirblue57 on July 03, 2013, 10:11:42 PM
England does not have a squad of players with any real talent at present. Wouldn't read much into it to be honest.

fixed
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Rhys on July 03, 2013, 10:16:27 PM
Apart from pretty sure Nathan dyer has never played for England?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on July 03, 2013, 10:21:23 PM
Apart from pretty sure Nathan dyer has never played for England?

He hasn't.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 03, 2013, 10:29:49 PM
My mistake. I thought he had played in two friendlies.

Osman has though. And played well.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 03, 2013, 10:36:04 PM
It'll be interesting to see if Baines comes out and says anything about the links to
united.

Last year he said http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2012/06/baines-not-impressed-by-united-links/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+NilSatisNisiOptimumNews+%28Nil+Satis+Nisi+Optimum%29 (http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2012/06/baines-not-impressed-by-united-links/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+NilSatisNisiOptimumNews+%28Nil+Satis+Nisi+Optimum%29)

Seeing my ex again, and she's told me what she knows about the Baines saga, its pretty much what most of us presume, but I'll say it nonetheless. Couple of weeks back they were at a fambo wedding, people asked him about Moyes going and whether he would join, he was being very coy, but didnt seem to fussed about it.

So a bid was made last week, which is now common knowledge. Apparently he's been buzzing since the bid was made, as its Man united who want him. But, again in regards to leaving and forcing through a move, he seems non plussed as he enjoys it here. Its his family who have been having words in his ear and are telling him to think about his career, and apparently he is excited at the thought of playing for them. When I asked "He's not gonna do a Rooney on us is he" she said "Nah, he's happy enough, and dosent care that much to do anything like that"

Also asked if he's had any talks with them, and she said "How? he's been on holiday for most of the month" So we all know the "done deal stuff is shite"

She then said "Shut up talking about Baines and let me bounce all over that massive dick you fucking animal" :)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 03, 2013, 10:41:16 PM
I was believing that until that last sentence.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: brap2 on July 03, 2013, 10:45:47 PM
Is right ram.

Our link to dyer is only bad strong as our aubumeyang link...So why take one seriously, when we knew straight off we'd never get the other? It's just paper talk. Only take quotes from club officials seriously, everyone else...apply salt liberally.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 03, 2013, 10:45:59 PM
I was believing that until that last sentence.

Nah, really its true that man. Nothing to ground braking, but I like to brag that I have some connection albeit a very thin one, to Leighton Baines.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on July 03, 2013, 10:47:40 PM
I was believing that until that last sentence.

Never doubt TheRam's Baines' links.

I do imagine part of that story has been elaborated though. The last part.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 03, 2013, 10:52:56 PM
I do believe the bulk of the story... but the massive cock part... come on!!

Anyway, keep us informed with what you know of Baines mate. Cheers!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Polledreng on July 03, 2013, 10:59:11 PM
Seeing my ex again, and she's told me what she knows about the Baines saga, its pretty much what most of us presume, but I'll say it nonetheless. Couple of weeks back they were at a fambo wedding, people asked him about Moyes going and whether he would join, he was being very coy, but didnt seem to fussed about it.

So a bid was made last week, which is now common knowledge. Apparently he's been buzzing since the bid was made, as its Man united who want him. But, again in regards to leaving and forcing through a move, he seems non plussed as he enjoys it here. Its his family who have been having words in his ear and are telling him to think about his career, and apparently he is excited at the thought of playing for them. When I asked "He's not gonna do a Rooney on us is he" she said "Nah, he's happy enough, and dosent care that much to do anything like that"

Also asked if he's had any talks with them, and she said "How? he's been on holiday for most of the month" So we all know the "done deal stuff is shite"

She then said "Shut up talking about Baines and let me bounce all over that massive dick you fucking animal" :)

I believe everything - except the last sentence  ;)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on July 03, 2013, 11:08:15 PM
Apparently Sunderland's looking at Jozy Altidore, and had a £4M bid pinged back. AZ are looking for more like £7M. He may be ready to return to England after two years of good form in the Netherlands, plus solid appearances for the US. For roughly the same price, would anyone take him (being 6 years younger, but having had a tough time before his spell at AZ) over Kone (older but a known quantity)?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: cantoffee on July 03, 2013, 11:17:38 PM
I would definitely take Altidore.

I think he has all the qualities required to be a very good premier league player and he's still fairly young.

I know he struggled when he was on loan at Hull, but he was 19 or 20 at the time, and really just couldn't finished or get into the right positions. Something which he is obviously much better at now through experience.

He wouldn't be a sure thing, and we have seen many players come from the Dutch league and flop, but his physical attributes and age mean that he would certainly have a good chance of succeeding, and at least have re-sale value should things not work out.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 03, 2013, 11:36:36 PM
I do believe the bulk of the story... but the massive cock part... come on!!

Anyway, keep us informed with what you know of Baines mate. Cheers!

I will do man, I dont get to much ground breaking stuff, but do get the occasional bit of info.

Really hope the lad stays, not to fussed about Felaini but Baines going will be devastating.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on July 04, 2013, 01:54:09 AM
Barcelona's Mundo Deportivo is reporting that Gerard Deulofeu will decide between us and Tottenham at the conclusion of the U20 World Cup.

http://www.mundodeportivo.com/20130703/fc-barcelona/muniesa-deulofeu-fichajes-premier-league_54377176258.html (http://www.mundodeportivo.com/20130703/fc-barcelona/muniesa-deulofeu-fichajes-premier-league_54377176258.html)

Primarily a right winger, but can also play on the left. We, however, have more options to shuffle around and get him in. Spurs have Bale and Lennon pretty much entrenched on the wings, but Pienaar can play inside for us or Mirallas can move left or up top. Quality player, has been tearing up the U20WC. Could really offer us something different, and I hope if he does come we have a purchase option.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 04, 2013, 02:12:12 AM
He wont come.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Gash on July 04, 2013, 02:46:10 AM
And there you have it gentlemen. Straight from Baines' cousin's, brother's next door neighbour's sister's ex.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on July 04, 2013, 03:10:34 AM
And there you have it gentlemen. Straight from Baines' cousin's, brother's next door neighbour's sister's ex.

Still has better links than most other ITK's
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 04, 2013, 03:25:08 AM
And there you have it gentlemen. Straight from Baines' cousin's, brother's next door neighbour's sister's ex.

Knew you would be a sarcastic bell over it. Not professing to be ITK, just have a small link to Baines through the girl Im seeing, so thought I would pass on what I was told.

Certainly beats the "Im hearing" bollocks we constantly get.

Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Fonz on July 04, 2013, 03:40:48 AM
Ok lets have the abuse! As I dont post, Baines is happy to stay.
He will go if the club force it, but he is not arsed either way.
Source is ex team mate, been out with them both on the ale before now, deffo know each other.
Baines will go if we agree fee, if not more than happy here and is not looking for a move at all.
Irish source from days at wigan, your clue! thinks it will go ahead.
Not ITK at all, just sayin what i have heard and been passed on to tonight, in chester, bar lounge. No dont know anything else sorry boys. Awaiting the abuse.....Truth from me and ex team mate of Bainsey
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 04, 2013, 03:48:18 AM
Ok lets have the abuse! As I dont post, Baines is happy to stay.
He will go if the club force it, but he is not arsed either way.
Source is ex team mate, been out with them both on the ale before now, deffo know each other.
Baines will go if we agree fee, if not more than happy here and is not looking for a move at all.
Irish source from days at wigan, your clue! thinks it will go ahead.
Not ITK at all, just sayin what i have heard and been passed on to tonight, in chester, bar lounge. No dont know anything else sorry boys. Awaiting the abuse.....Truth from me and ex team mate of Bainsey

Tell Kilbane I said Hi.

But yeah thats pretty much what I've been told through my tedious link :)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Gash on July 04, 2013, 03:48:55 AM
Knew you would be a sarcastic bell over it. Not professing to be ITK, just have a small link to Baines through the girl Im seeing, so thought I would pass on what I was told.

Certainly beats the "Im hearing" bollocks we constantly get.



Lighten up, it was a joke you tit.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 04, 2013, 03:51:29 AM
Well both 'reluctant' ITKs seem to confirm exactly what everyone else with more than an ounce if common sense suspects.

Mad fucking world innit.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 04, 2013, 03:51:42 AM
Lighten up, it was a joke you tit.

Its hard to tell with you. :)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Fonz on July 04, 2013, 03:57:12 AM
Tell Kilbane I said Hi.

But yeah thats pretty much what I've been told through my tedious link :)
Good guess but no mate, proper irish, not because we cant play for england!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Cassius on July 04, 2013, 04:02:44 AM
Good guess but no mate, proper irish, not because we cant play for england!

Tony Cascarino?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 04, 2013, 04:05:07 AM
Good guess but no mate, proper irish, not because we cant play for england!

Proper Irish who played for Wigan at the same time as Baines?

Kavanagh?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Cassius on July 04, 2013, 04:10:13 AM
(http://eil.com/images/main/Kavana+-+Funky+Love+-+5%22+CD+SINGLE-497283.jpg)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 04, 2013, 04:15:31 AM

Sorry I meant this guy

(http://www.premierleague.com/content/dam/premierleague/shared-images/players/g/graham-kavanagh/11287-lsh.jpg)

Here he is with Romelu lukaku, who I also think we should sign

(http://pics.mobygames.com/images/covers/large/1345454055-01.jpg)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Fonz on July 04, 2013, 04:16:00 AM
Proper Irish who played for Wigan at the same time as Baines?

Kavanagh?
Great arrows mate, same team, played with them. No though
I am not allowed to say but, I will just say no, if correct i will ignore x
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 04, 2013, 04:19:11 AM
Great arrows mate, same team, played with them. No though
I am not allowed to say but, I will just say no, if correct i will ignore x

Fair enough mate!i do love a guessing game though so I will say Alan Mahon!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: jpjc05 on July 04, 2013, 04:29:14 AM
Good guess but no mate, proper irish, not because we cant play for england!

Kevin Kilbane's dream was to play international football for Ireland, nobody else.

Western People Mayo Sports Stars. Kevin Kilbane Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrIIXwVgmak#ws)

Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Amata on July 04, 2013, 04:35:02 AM
Im going for Alan Mahon
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 04, 2013, 04:40:19 AM
(http://eil.com/images/main/Kavana+-+Funky+Love+-+5%22+CD+SINGLE-497283.jpg)

Seen him at the BBC Big bash, just after I went to see the demon headmaster live. Then went on to see 991.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Fonz on July 04, 2013, 04:44:19 AM
Kevin Kilbane's dream was to play international football for Ireland, nobody else.

Western People Mayo Sports Stars. Kevin Kilbane Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrIIXwVgmak#ws)


Thanks for that sausage, you must be so proud!
Didnt say anything about Kilbane, Just said proper Irish? Touchy? Fuck me, wouldnt play pass the parcel in your house mate x
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: griff969 on July 04, 2013, 04:45:03 AM
The Fonz causing mayhem again!! For what it is worth I know The Fonz very well (no WUM) and know he is mates with a certain ex Wigan Irish international................ who strangely is actually proper Irish
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Redartin on July 04, 2013, 04:46:18 AM

In my opinion mcgeady can play both flanks, can take people on inside or out more successfully and is happy to put balls in with left and right foot.


IMO McGeady is a gobshite who takes on a defender, maybe beats him, if he does, he won't cross the ball but will turn and go back to try and beat the defender again, but 9 times out of 10 will lose the ball. The number of times I have seen him do that for both Celtic and Ireland. How anyone rates him is beyond me.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 04, 2013, 04:47:26 AM
Did Father Ted play for Wigan?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Tony Clifton on July 04, 2013, 04:48:22 AM
I will do man, I dont get to much ground breaking stuff, but do get the occasional bit of info.

Really hope the lad stays, not to fussed about Felaini but Baines going will be devastating.

Ram - serious question:  Does our Leighton have an aunt named Paula, in her late 30s?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Fonz on July 04, 2013, 04:49:25 AM
The Fonz causing mayhem again!! For what it is worth I know The Fonz very well (no WUM) and know he is mates with a certain ex Wigan Irish international................ who strangely is actually proper Irish
Haha Yes was out before mate, just saying what i heard from them...... Hows things mate? x
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: griff969 on July 04, 2013, 04:49:31 AM
Did Father Ted play for Wigan?

Do you think Whelan would have kept that quiet?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: jpjc05 on July 04, 2013, 04:49:47 AM
Thanks for that sausage, you must be so proud!
Didnt say anything about Kilbane, Just said proper Irish? Touchy? Fuck me, wouldnt play pass the parcel in your house mate x

No problem daisy. Call over anytime....more than welcome  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: griff969 on July 04, 2013, 04:51:12 AM
Haha Yes was out before mate, just saying what i heard from them...... Hows things mate? x

Sound mate, just amazed you found your mate in the pub? Not like him is it?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Fonz on July 04, 2013, 04:52:57 AM
Did you ever hear about Nathan Ellingtons promotion bonus from the man who broke his leg?
Ignore that one please mods, sorry
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Fonz on July 04, 2013, 04:54:13 AM
No problem daisy. Call over anytime....more than welcome  :thumbsup:
Ha let me know when is good for you x
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Fonz on July 04, 2013, 04:58:15 AM
Sound mate, just amazed you found your mate in the pub? Not like him is it?
No, everyone is dry now.......
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 04, 2013, 05:00:29 AM
Wow, this went random, shit and possibly a bit partisan rather quickly
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 04, 2013, 05:00:32 AM
Ram - serious question:  Does our Leighton have an aunt named Paula, in her late 30s?

Dunno to be honest mate.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: jpjc05 on July 04, 2013, 05:03:29 AM
Ha let me know when is good for you x

Just give us a chance to get the Riverdance ensemble together.....sure don't you know its where Seamie got his twinkle toes from
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Simon Paul on July 04, 2013, 05:08:45 AM
Emerson Boyce?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Fonz on July 04, 2013, 05:09:19 AM
Just give us a chance to get the Riverdance ensemble together.....sure don't you know its where Seamie got his twinkle toes from
Is it Killy or Bally? not sure, sorry for my ignorance mate, really not taking the piss x
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Tony Clifton on July 04, 2013, 05:12:10 AM
Dunno to be honest mate.

No problem mate, thanks anyway.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: jpjc05 on July 04, 2013, 05:14:01 AM
Is it Killy or Bally? not sure, sorry for my ignorance mate, really not taking the piss x

Seamie is from Killybegs direction. Getting back to football who do you think Baines will be playing for come the 1st week of September?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Fonz on July 04, 2013, 05:24:28 AM
Erm, I would sadly say man utd.
Baines is happy to stay from what i heard, but if they put the right offer in he is gone, we never turn down money.
He wont ask for a move though, and is happy here, he isnt arsed either way.
Tell me ma, in the proper words as cant spell them!, What will be, will be.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Bally on July 04, 2013, 05:47:15 AM
I was believing that until that last sentence.
Tbh the last sentence is the most believable

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Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 04, 2013, 05:48:24 AM
Tbh the last sentence is the most believable

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Its true like. Why would I make that up?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 04, 2013, 06:07:50 AM
Hahah there's a hashtag on twitter, #thesignWayneRooneyfund.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Fonz on July 04, 2013, 06:13:35 AM
Hahah there's a hashtag on twitter, #thesignWayneRooneyfund.
Just seen that, was that your tenner and pound coins on the pic?
I reckon you can do better than thatfor the fund ha
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: christiffa25 on July 04, 2013, 02:02:23 PM
Hahah there's a hashtag on twitter, #thesignWayneRooneyfund.

Haha brilliant, would be good if blues made it trend, and a massive story, pull on those heart strings a little more!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 04, 2013, 02:38:45 PM
Shay Given being frozen out of Lambert's plans for pre-season and beyond. Would anyone take him for nothing as back up? Could be another Nigel Martyn.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: pommy on July 04, 2013, 02:43:57 PM
Shay Given being frozen out of Lambert's plans for pre-season and beyond. Would anyone take him for nothing as back up? Could be another Nigel Martyn.
in a heart beat
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 04, 2013, 02:57:11 PM
Shay Given being frozen out of Lambert's plans for pre-season and beyond. Would anyone take him for nothing as back up? Could be another Nigel Martyn.

Begs the question why?

Maybe he hasn't got the skills or application anymore
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 04, 2013, 02:57:48 PM
Given would be a decen back up
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blue slug on July 04, 2013, 02:59:09 PM
Shay given would provide decent cover in the short term maybe 1 or 2 years. Allows us to spend funds on the midfield and forwards
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Grand Master C on July 04, 2013, 03:11:32 PM
Begs the question why?

Maybe he hasn't got the skills or application anymore

A villa mate says it is mostly financial. He is on a decent wedge. Remember his last two clubs were Newcastle and City.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Gash on July 04, 2013, 03:12:38 PM
Begs the question why?

Maybe he hasn't got the skills or application anymore

I think it's more a thing of Lambert not liking senior players and him wanting to be the big I am with the younger players, he sees senior players as a threat. Just my take on it.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 04, 2013, 03:49:16 PM
I think it's more a thing of Lambert not liking senior players and him wanting to be the big I am with the younger players, he sees senior players as a threat. Just my take on it.

Lambert prefers young boys?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Alanvideo on July 04, 2013, 03:54:29 PM
Shay Given is a good keeper but at his age he needs to play. He wouldn't have got a sniff under Moyes but under Martinez who knows ?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Risky on July 04, 2013, 04:02:21 PM
Shay given has been poor whenever he has played over he past few years. He should not be an option for us at all.

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Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: di_guyo on July 04, 2013, 04:08:26 PM
Shay given has been poor whenever he has played over he past few years. He should not be an option for us at all.

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Agreed, we have to think of the future too. I think Joel would be a perfect signing, young enough to have many years ahead of him, resale value, and a good enough talent to potentially challenge Howard before too long.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 04, 2013, 05:28:27 PM
Errrrr Shay Given has been shite. Do people actually watch these players.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 04, 2013, 05:30:55 PM
Given's mistake was leaving the skunks. He was ok at the start for City but I think he went downhill when he got that shoulder injury. Hasn't been the same since.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: christiffa25 on July 04, 2013, 05:48:56 PM
Nah given is not a good move for him or us. Imagine he wants to play, but isn't the GK he once was, which was brilliant might I add.

Been annoyed by all the links to previous Wigan/Martinez players/targets but wouldn't be disappointed with GK they had on loan last season joels? or something isn't it....anyway young, hopefully cheap, room to improve and could actually challange Howard.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: christiffa25 on July 04, 2013, 05:51:25 PM
Nah given is not a good move for him or us. Imagine he wants to play, but isn't the GK he once was, which was brilliant might I add.

Been annoyed by all the links to previous Wigan/Martinez players/targets but wouldn't be disappointed with GK they had on loan last season joels? or something isn't it....anyway young, hopefully cheap, room to improve and could actually challange Howard.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: sharpattack on July 04, 2013, 06:37:29 PM
Given's mistake was leaving the skunks. He was ok at the start for City but I think he went downhill when he got that shoulder injury. Hasn't been the same since.
Correct. he's finished
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Trowel on July 05, 2013, 01:17:21 PM
Sounds like Honda is about to sign for AC, possibly a pre-contract for a summer move.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Makis on July 05, 2013, 01:37:43 PM
He can move in January.

Anyone else annoyed that any half-decent midfielder we are interested in and you have Spurs interested? Just how many do they need (I'm referring to Gerard Deulofeu).
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Trowel on July 05, 2013, 02:03:45 PM
He can move in January.
Yes, I meant Jan window sorry - Russian summer as it were. It sounds like AC aren't willing to stump up the €6m or so needed for a move now, so will go for the pre-contract instead.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: christiffa25 on July 05, 2013, 05:12:53 PM
Hope we can get that Deulofeu lad, even if it is just a loan. Would make me feel like we're actually trying to improve rather than just top up the squad!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: steve81 on July 05, 2013, 06:42:06 PM
silence on here says it all about our transfer activity news
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on July 05, 2013, 06:46:49 PM
silence on here says it all about our transfer activity news

Was thinking the same thing!

I know it's early July and we've only been back 2-3 days etc - but I'm not even asking for actual signings (yet, obviously!) but at least some reasonable rumours to discuss!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Trowel on July 05, 2013, 06:50:00 PM
Assuming Paulinho to Spurs is a done deal, there's only only PL team yet to make a signing this summer Would it surprise you to know who it is ...?!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: sharpattack on July 05, 2013, 06:51:23 PM
Assuming Paulinho to Spurs is a done deal, there's only only PL team yet to make a signing this summer Would it surprise you to know who it is ...?!
Well? Don't keep us in suspense
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: steve81 on July 05, 2013, 06:53:11 PM
Was thinking the same thing!

I know it's early July and we've only been back 2-3 days etc - but I'm not even asking for actual signings (yet, obviously!) but at least some reasonable rumours to discuss!
hoped to have a couple in by now perhaps negotiations are on going or it could be that martinez is waiting to see what happens with felli to see how much he has to spend on potential targets
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 05, 2013, 06:54:45 PM
Sad that we dont even get mentioned in the papers.

Noones gonna put a rumour on here tho anymore....  they get ripped to shreds
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on July 05, 2013, 06:57:17 PM
hoped to have a couple in by now perhaps negotiations are on going or it could be that martinez is waiting to see what happens with felli to see how much he has to spend on potential targets

Yeah I think there's a chance that if we "know" that either Felli or Baines is likely to go it would make some sense to wait and see what we end up with - as the level (as opposed to simply adding more numbers) of our targets might change with increased funds.

There is of course the chance that we're just doing things at our own pace!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: steve81 on July 05, 2013, 07:16:15 PM
rumours that kone having a medical at the moment on grand old team

Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on July 05, 2013, 07:28:35 PM
rumours that kone having a medical at the moment on grand old team



Should know by next week then. :)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: steve81 on July 05, 2013, 07:31:37 PM
sounds like we might be in for him perhaps it is kone transfer hold up

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Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: American Evertonian on July 05, 2013, 08:33:24 PM
According to Caughtoffside.com United has come back for Baines with an offer of £20m. Likely bollocks but I'd take that deal if true.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on July 05, 2013, 08:35:37 PM
According to Caughtoffside.com United has come back for Baines with an offer of £20m. Likely bollocks but I'd take that deal if true.

Caught offside :shakeyheadman:
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 05, 2013, 08:36:39 PM
According to Caughtoffside.com United has come back for Baines with an offer of £20m. Likely bollocks but I'd take that deal if true.

Come on lad, swerve them off.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 05, 2013, 10:05:11 PM
Yeah sports direct news is where its at

 http://myevertonnews.com/arsenal-could-offer-aaron-ramsey-as-part-of-fellaini-deal/
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on July 05, 2013, 10:06:00 PM
I'll cry if Ramsey ever plays for us.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 05, 2013, 10:24:39 PM
I'll cry if Ramsey ever plays for us.

He's a fucking brilliant player. Just had a rough few years
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on July 05, 2013, 10:28:16 PM
He's a fucking brilliant player. Just had a rough few years


He's been completely out of his depth at Arsenal since his injury.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 05, 2013, 10:51:14 PM

He's been completely out of his depth at Arsenal since his injury.

Exactly, since his injury. He's still a great player and has time on his side to come good again.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 05, 2013, 10:58:43 PM
After all, it worked for Naismith... oh wait ;)

He is a good player, and a change of club may help him.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 05, 2013, 11:00:01 PM
After all, it worked for Naismith... oh wait ;)

He is a good player, and a change of club may help him.

He needs more time on the pitch.

His development was severely set back by the leg break.

I'd love him here.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: American Evertonian on July 05, 2013, 11:15:37 PM
He's a fucking brilliant player. Just had a rough few years

I'd say. When famous people die after every goal you score score then I'd say rough is fairly accurate way to phrase his grim reaper like streak.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on July 06, 2013, 12:01:32 AM
Exactly, since his injury. He's still a great player and has time on his side to come good again.

it's been like 2 or 3 years, he's not going to get any better.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Bluedylan on July 06, 2013, 12:07:00 AM

He's been completely out of his depth at Arsenal since his injury.

He was one of their best players in the second half of last season, when they went on that long run of wins. Their crowd completely turned around from not being fussed about him to seeing him as integral to the team. I would 100% love him to come here. He'd be perfect, if we had to lose Fell.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 06, 2013, 12:07:01 AM
it's been like 2 or 3 years, he's not going to get any better.

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Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: christiffa25 on July 06, 2013, 03:01:08 AM
He's a fucking brilliant player. Just had a rough few years

Ramsey is dog poo!

Most the arsenal fans think of Ramsey like we do Naismith, my bro is a big gooner, hates him can't wait to get shut. Watch alot of arsenal myself on TV and would have to agree, he's poor, I'd prefer ossie...seriously!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 06, 2013, 03:03:04 AM
Ramsey is a talented YOUNG player. He needs some tlc and he will be ok
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Risky on July 06, 2013, 03:07:31 AM
He's got potential but when I've seen him he appears to be bereft of any confidence and looks scared when he's on the ball.  Their fans seem very quick to get on his back too which won't help him at all either.  That said it did appear that he played much better towards the back end of last season, so perhaps he's finally getting over his injury and becoming a good player.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on July 06, 2013, 03:16:19 AM
To be fair to the lad, Wenger had him playing on the right of a front 3 at times last season, no wonder he didn't shine. Think he'd do well for us in a deep creative roll.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on July 06, 2013, 03:17:32 AM
*role. Bloody auto correct!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Cassius on July 06, 2013, 03:26:03 AM
He's got potential but when I've seen him he appears to be bereft of any confidence and looks scared when he's on the ball.  Their fans seem very quick to get on his back too which won't help him at all either.  That said it did appear that he played much better towards the back end of last season, so perhaps he's finally getting over his injury and becoming a good player.

I agree with this, when I saw him play last season he appeared affected by the crowd's reaction to him, which is why a move might be good for him.

I also think he played well towards the back end of last season and think he has a lot to offer.

Kinda reminds me of Stephen Hughes a bit though, which is a worry.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: brap2 on July 06, 2013, 03:32:46 AM
He's got potential but when I've seen him he appears to be bereft of any confidence and looks scared when he's on the ball.  Their fans seem very quick to get on his back too which won't help him at all either.  That said it did appear that he played much better towards the back end of last season, so perhaps he's finally getting over his injury and becoming a good player.

Reminds me of rodwell.

I would have him here in a fucking flash anyways.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 06, 2013, 06:22:43 AM
Ramsey is dog poo!

Most the arsenal fans think of Ramsey like we do Naismith, my bro is a big gooner, hates him can't wait to get shut. Watch alot of arsenal myself on TV and would have to agree, he's poor, I'd prefer ossie...seriously!

Mate, get a grip. Arsenal tv is polluting your mind. Last season, when Ramsey started a few games on the trot for the gooners he was voted man of the match by the fans. That included the game at Goodison where we made them look small time with the only arsenal player to come out with any credibility was Ramsey.

He is exactly what we need now. Young with plenty of potential.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Bluedylan on July 06, 2013, 09:56:37 AM
Too many people on here just give opinions based on reputations and what they see in the media, rather than watching football matches. Ramsey was absolutely superb for the second half of last season. He was being played in completely the wrong position prior to that, on the right of a front three.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: christiffa25 on July 06, 2013, 02:18:09 PM
Too many people on here just give opinions based on reputations and what they see in the media, rather than watching football matches. Ramsey was absolutely superb for the second half of last season. He was being played in completely the wrong position prior to that, on the right of a front three.


I watch plenty of arsenal mate, Ramsey was NOT superb second half of season. He was arsenals weakest midfielder! He's average at best, ok he's young and may improve but I wouldn't want him here!

Wallcott must of spent most of last season on the bench then if Ramsey was playing out of posistion on the right consistantly then!?!?!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: di_guyo on July 06, 2013, 02:43:40 PM
Ramsey is a talented player but he's never fully fulfilled it....partly due to his injury, partly to do with the unnecessary tricks and flicks he insists on trying. The amount of times he loses possession for not reason is ridiculous...I remember watching him at the Olympics as well, he was absolutely horrific. If he could learn to play the simple percentage balls and think more as a team then he has the potentially to be a really good player. Given his age and the stage he's at with his development I'd maybe rather consider other Arsenal players like Eisfeld, Coquelin etc.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: wooly66 on July 06, 2013, 04:07:10 PM
FWIW, my wife and father-in-law are Gooners. They react to Ramsey like many of our fans react to Ossie. They see all his weaknesses and are blind to strengths. Having said that he isn't (yet) at Ossie's level and is utterly bereft of self-belief due to fans turning on him and possibly a nagging doubt since his injury about his physical limitations.

Since that injury he has definitely lost a yard or two of pace and that short-area "burst" that used to make him effective gong forward. He has decent technique, will mix it when needed and can see a pass. Given a more supportive environment he could get back on track, perhaps as a deep lying ball-playing link-man, similar to how Arteta has evolved.

I do not think he will ever cut it at PL level as either a top-class CM in a traditional 4-man midfield or as an advanced midfielder, playing behind a striker (which is the role Barkley played away at Arsenal last year, in easily his best performance for us).

I'd consider him in a Fellain deal, but at no more than £3-5m as I don't think he has the same upside potential he had before his injury.

Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: christiffa25 on July 06, 2013, 04:19:10 PM
Ossie is better than Ramsey, Barkley will be twice the player Ramsey is.

Don't see him playing much for arsenal next year with Wiltshire fit and ready for a full season. Think they will also sign a CM (hopefully not fellaini) which will leave him behind...
Arteta, Wiltshire, rosicy, diabe (if ever fit) Corzola and whoever they sign!

Can see him ending up at Cardiff.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Silas on July 06, 2013, 04:45:54 PM
Haven't saw anything in Ramsey to say he will be anything better than average in an Arsenal team.  Would probably shine in a lesser team were he was more of a big deal.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: dekko on July 06, 2013, 05:18:54 PM
So they're offering 17m plus Ramsey. How much do they think Ramsey is worth?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Silas on July 06, 2013, 05:20:27 PM
So they're offering 17m plus Ramsey. How much do they think Ramsey is worth?

To be fair youngish central midifelder, British, he's easily worth around 8 mil
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Ross on July 06, 2013, 05:30:34 PM
So they're offering 17m plus Ramsey. How much do they think Ramsey is worth?

I thought the problem was supposed to be Fellaini's wages, with Arsenal not willing to pay him the going rate for a £24m player.

Its got to be a no if they want to include Ramsey as part of the fee, we need the full amount and let Bobby use it on players of his own choice and not ones forced on him.

He's a decent player and would normally be a good addition to our squad but not as part of this deal.

Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 06, 2013, 05:32:47 PM
Everton very rarely do swap deals, and I don't think we will with Fellaini. Would be good to get Kone Alcaraz and Barcakid in time for the first pre season game
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 06, 2013, 06:01:52 PM
Everton very rarely do swap deals, and I don't think we will with Fellaini. Would be good to get Kone Alcaraz and Barcakid in time for the first pre season game

We don't know what Martinez' Everton do yet.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Duncs_a_legend on July 06, 2013, 06:21:43 PM
Seen a rumour on some slightly iffy website about Arsenal wanting to offer us £17m plus Aaron Ramsey for Fellaini. Would people be happy with that, I'd jump at it tbh, I think Ramsey is a really good player, u couldn't buy him for less than £10m cash.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 06, 2013, 06:22:59 PM
Seen a rumour on some slightly iffy website about Arsenal wanting to offer us £17m plus Aaron Ramsey for Fellaini. Would people be happy with that, I'd jump at it tbh, I think Ramsey is a really good player, u couldn't buy him for less than £10m cash.


Err see last 2 pages if this thread
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: true1891blue on July 06, 2013, 06:25:55 PM
17m and Ramsey I would take that
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: ForzaItalia on July 06, 2013, 06:27:25 PM
17m and Ramsey I would take that


I wouldn't, cash is king.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Cozzie on July 06, 2013, 06:33:12 PM
Ramsey is a massive load of inner anus, forget it.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: pastiebap on July 06, 2013, 06:37:30 PM
He looked a player before his injury. My arsenal mate said last season he was completely dire  every time he played and he wanted rid.

If they are offering 17 and felli's release is 23 then they value Ramsey at 6 million? Surely we could get a better midfielder even with that before we touch the best. No thanks, cash only please.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: dekko on July 06, 2013, 06:41:00 PM
20mil plus Ramsey. I'd take that.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Juanito on July 06, 2013, 06:50:49 PM
Too many people on here just give opinions based on reputations and what they see in the media, rather than watching football matches. Ramsey was absolutely superb for the second half of last season. He was being played in completely the wrong position prior to that, on the right of a front three.


Thats right, he is a central midfielder and a player Moyes wanted before he went to Arsenal. I think he would be good, the only problem is we need a defensive midfielder if Fellaini stays or goes. I could see Ramsey alongside Gibson leeking goals.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: AllyBlue14 on July 06, 2013, 07:03:42 PM
If the release clause is £23m, how can we accept a player as part of it? Surely that's open to interpretation or would the teams have to agree a value for Ramsey first and then pay the rest in money?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: wooly66 on July 06, 2013, 07:04:25 PM
Frankly it is arrogant of you to assume everyone else is ignorant because their views differ from your own. He was the worst player on the pitch at the Emirates in the game against us and by some distance. He gave the ball away constantly and was never in the right place to effect the game, even when they dominated for 30 minutes with Cazorla and Arteta running the show.

He was NOT superb in the second half of last season either as most Arsenal fans would tell you in words of one syllable and I follow them closely given the family interest.

Ultimately it is all about opinions but he is a shadow of the player he could have become pre-injury. Not terrible but not special. The fact it is even rumoured he'd be thrown in as a make weight says a lot.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: dekko on July 06, 2013, 07:59:13 PM
 
If the release clause is £23m, how can we accept a player as part of it? Surely that's open to interpretation or would the teams have to agree a value for Ramsey first and then pay the rest in money?

If Everton and Fellaini both agree. We can sell Fellaini for whatever money.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 06, 2013, 09:03:49 PM
17mil plus Ramsey?

I would snap their hands off for that.

We could have,Ramsey,Kone,Alcaraz and that Barca lad and still have 17mil to spend, seriously great business that.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Polledreng on July 06, 2013, 09:28:17 PM

If Everton and Fellaini both agree. We can sell Fellaini for whatever money.
and whatever player in exchange
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on July 06, 2013, 09:35:57 PM
Would prefer 17M and the Ox
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: evertonarntwe on July 06, 2013, 10:51:20 PM
17mill and ramsey would be class, hasn't been the same since his injury still a tidy little player though, missing a creative spark like him anyway
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: EighteenSeventyEight on July 06, 2013, 11:17:51 PM
20m and ramsey i would think is good
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: billbones80 on July 07, 2013, 12:28:58 AM
Having watched him since he was in the Wales U21s, Ramsey is a very good player. Yes, he had a set back of a major injury and is in a squad with many other CMs of a similar style. I think he would flourish with us, and it isn't him or Barkley it's both, imagine that! I would take the deal, but I suspect it's probably shite like most mooted swap deals.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 07, 2013, 05:38:05 AM
 If Fellaini is sold to Arsenal I hope part of the money is to buy Victor Wanyama - I'd rather have Wanyama than Ramsey. My assessment of Wanyama is only from television watching, and I know it's the Scottish League (ho hum), but he's head & shoulders better than any other SPL midfield player and deserves a better standard of competition which I think he could play at.

 From the link (below);

Everton manager Roberto Martinez is joining the £12million race to land Celtic star man Victor Wanyama.

 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-transfer-news-victor-wanyama-2034347 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-transfer-news-victor-wanyama-2034347)



Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blueToffee on July 07, 2013, 06:34:31 AM
If Fellaini is sold to Arsenal I hope part of the money is to buy Victor Wanyama - I'd rather have Wanyama than Ramsey. My assessment of Wanyama is only from television watching, and I know it's the Scottish League (ho hum), but he's head & shoulders better than any other SPL midfield player and deserves a better standard of competition which I think he could play at.

 From the link (below);

Everton manager Roberto Martinez is joining the £12million race to land Celtic star man Victor Wanyama.

 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-transfer-news-victor-wanyama-2034347 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-transfer-news-victor-wanyama-2034347)





I've seen very little of him aside from some CL games. He played very well in those though so it's a decent indication he'd be able to cope with the PL. Has the potential to be a solid replacement for Fellaini's DM role, not sure he's as versatile or as good on the ball as Fellaini though. A little suspicious it's one of these 2+2 = 5 stories though.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 07, 2013, 06:59:19 AM
I've seen very little of him aside from some CL games. He played very well in those though so it's a decent indication he'd be able to cope with the PL. Has the potential to be a solid replacement for Fellaini's DM role, not sure he's as versatile or as good on the ball as Fellaini though. A little suspicious it's one of these 2+2 = 5 stories though.

 I agree that it is 'rumour bollox' and he may be not as polished in the last third but I do think if Martinez is successful in getting Gerard Deulofeu (which I do think we have a very good chance of beating Spurs to the loan deal), Wanyama is excellent in being disciplined with defensive midfield duties.

 The thought of Jelavic, Kone, Pienaar, Miralles(sp), Deulofeu (any 4 from 5), being allowed to concentrate on banging the goals in, Gibson & Wanyama giving the holding stability, would, for me, be a team to be reckoned with - my only doubt is Howard, the back 4 are better than good and I see a damn good 10 outfield unit.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: gwells on July 07, 2013, 06:27:16 PM
Just a point if we sell Fellaini there will be a significant percentage going to his former Belgian club so we will not get he full amount i.e $23 mill to spend
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Ross on July 07, 2013, 06:33:19 PM
Just a point if we sell Fellaini there will be a significant percentage going to his former Belgian club so we will not get he full amount i.e $23 mill to spend

Where's this come from?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 07, 2013, 06:35:27 PM
We've had this debate in another Fellaini thread. I don't think we ever came to a solid conclusion. So many differing reports on how much we actually paid for him, and if Leige will get a percentage of a sell on. Maybe they considering he signed a new contract with us.

Who knows.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Ross on July 07, 2013, 06:50:31 PM
We've had this debate in another Fellaini thread. I don't think we ever came to a solid conclusion. So many differing reports on how much we actually paid for him, and if Leige will get a percentage of a sell on. Maybe they considering he signed a new contract with us.

Who knows.

The whole point about that debate and this is that there is no solid evidence, yet people continually trot this sort of statement out like its a fact. More people read it and then believe it (without evidence to back it up) and pass it on until every other person commenting on it starts saying it, even though its not confirmed.That's the real issue

It's right up there with stating your an ITK and never getting anything right but continually making bold assertive statements that never come true because they never where true.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 07, 2013, 07:15:39 PM
The whole point about that debate and this is that there is no solid evidence, yet people continually trot this sort of statement out like its a fact. More people read it and then believe it (without evidence to back it up) and pass it on until every other person commenting on it starts saying it, even though its not confirmed.That's the real issue

It's right up there with stating your an ITK and never getting anything right but continually making bold assertive statements that never come true because they never where true.

Not exactly, because the evidence was coming direct from the OS. If that isn't right, then nothing else will be. The OS has to be the most credible source.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 07, 2013, 07:21:46 PM
Not exactly, because the evidence was coming direct from the OS. If that isn't right, then nothing else will be. The OS has to be the most credible source.

Funny how you go with the OS reports when it suits your agenda......

The OS is renowned for bring wrong.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 07, 2013, 07:23:18 PM
Funny how you go with the OS reports when it suits your agenda......

The OS is renowned for bring wrong.

Not sure what that's supposed to mean. What agenda? If the OS is wrong, then nothing else will be right.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Ross on July 07, 2013, 07:28:49 PM
Not exactly, because the evidence was coming direct from the OS. If that isn't right, then nothing else will be. The OS has to be the most credible source.

And there was no mention of a sell on clause in that poorly worded press release , so where's the evidence there is one?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 07, 2013, 07:29:43 PM
Funny how you go with the OS reports when it suits your agenda......

The OS is renowned for bring wrong.

Right, so what do you believe then? It seems all you do is proclaim everything you see on here to be bollocks.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 07, 2013, 07:33:10 PM
Right, so what do you believe then? It seems all you do is proclaim everything you see on here to be bollocks.

Not true.

Dejos thread is bollocks and I've called it so.

Am I wrong?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 07, 2013, 07:34:49 PM
Not true.

Dejos thread is bollocks and I've called it so.

Am I wrong?

No, but you call everything that's ever reported bollocks, now even stuff on the OS.Some stuff out there does have a lot of truth to it, stop being such a cynic.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 07, 2013, 07:36:58 PM
No, but you call everything that's ever reported bollocks, now even stuff on the OS.Some stuff out there does have a lot of truth to it, stop being such a cynic.

Ram, fuck off.

I can't be assed to get in an argument with you. Youre not worth it.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 07, 2013, 07:37:55 PM
Ram, fuck off.

I can't be assed to get in an argument with you. Youre not worth it.

I didnt realise there was an argument?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 07, 2013, 08:31:30 PM
And there was no mention of a sell on clause in that poorly worded press release , so where's the evidence there is one?

I never said there was a sell on clause. That whole debate was based on if there was one. Someone else said there was one. I've never seen anything from the os stating that there is.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Ross on July 07, 2013, 10:31:54 PM
I never said there was a sell on clause. That whole debate was based on if there was one. Someone else said there was one. I've never seen anything from the os stating that there is.

Well that's the problem, someone said something without any way of backing it up and the confusion then ensues! That's why I originally asked where gwells got this from.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 07, 2013, 11:57:39 PM
Well that's the problem, someone said something without any way of backing it up and the confusion then ensues! That's why I originally asked where gwells got this from.


That's why I kept referring back to my original post to keep the context.

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Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Ross on July 08, 2013, 12:40:18 AM

That's why I kept referring back to my original post to keep the context.

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Sorry you've lost me?

But the fact is in neither thread nobody has shown any evidence that there is any money owed to Leige ,if,and when we do sell Fellaini. That's the whole point, where's this come from other than rumour and here say being repeated time and again.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 08, 2013, 02:23:16 AM
Sorry you've lost me?

But the fact is in neither thread nobody has shown any evidence that there is any money owed to Leige ,if,and when we do sell Fellaini. That's the whole point, where's this come from other than rumour and here say being repeated time and again.
I was referring to the debate had on a Fellini thread a couple of weeks back which someone brought up a sell on fee.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 08, 2013, 03:20:54 PM
I was kind of thinking it would be a good sign if Baines and Fellaini travel to Austria this week as would possibly lessen the chance that any deal for them to leave is in place.  As much as I loathe to lose either of them, i would much rather it be done earlier in the summer.  Rather ominously Moyes says that he may do some of his transfer business later on in the summer.  Preparation is key for us.  Call me old-fashioned but I would like all of our transfer ins and outs sorted in time for the first pre-season friendly so we have maximum time for the manager and players to get to know eachother
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Silas on July 08, 2013, 03:22:08 PM
I was kind of thinking it would be a good sign if Baines and Fellaini travel to Austria this week as would possibly lessen the chance that any deal for them to leave is in place.  As much as I loathe to lose either of them, i would much rather it be done earlier in the summer.  Rather ominously Moyes says that he may do some of his transfer business later on in the summer.  Preparation is key for us.  Call me old-fashioned but I would like all of our transfer ins and outs sorted in time for the first pre-season friendly so we have maximum time for the manager and players to get to know eachother

It's certainly important we take a hard stance with clubs about any bids for them.  If there is genuine interest we should be pushing for them to make a decision/bid or fuck off. 
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 08, 2013, 03:28:47 PM
Strangely this is in the echo today

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-fc-target-keisuke-honda-4881136 (http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-fc-target-keisuke-honda-4881136)

hasn't he already signed for Milan?!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Silas on July 08, 2013, 03:31:29 PM
Strangely this is in the echo today

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-fc-target-keisuke-honda-4881136 (http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-fc-target-keisuke-honda-4881136)

hasn't he already signed for Milan?!

No there is no deal complete. 
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 08, 2013, 04:12:39 PM

 We are in advanced talks to take goalkeeper Joel Robles on loan - source - Fourth Official.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: gemine69 on July 08, 2013, 04:19:26 PM
We are in advanced talks to take goalkeeper Joel Robles on loan - source - Fourth Official.

If that is true then that is excellent news.  A very reliable back up who can push Howard all the way for a first team spot.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Cods on July 08, 2013, 04:44:02 PM

16mil plus Podolski I'd take that.
Fixed
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: di_guyo on July 08, 2013, 06:49:42 PM
Fixed

wouldnt want podolski...overrated. especially on those wages as well...would rather have the money. if was a choice between him and ramsey, id rather have ramsey
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 08, 2013, 06:57:09 PM
So we could have a centre back, a centre forward, a keeper and a winger for 5mil.

Great business.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 08, 2013, 07:04:56 PM
Sheedy (possible itk) is saying jelavic wants a better contract ie more money so the club are hawking him around trying to get a buyer
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Silas on July 08, 2013, 07:05:39 PM
Yeah if we got all them at that point we are stronger than last season.  A lot then depends on outgoings but there are reasons for cautious optimism. 
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Ross on July 08, 2013, 07:11:05 PM
Sheedy (possible itk) is saying jelavic wants a better contract ie more money so the club are hawking him around trying to get a buyer

After the season he's just had? He's lucky the club haven't asked for a refund on some of the wages he stole last season!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Bally on July 08, 2013, 07:11:45 PM
Anyone heard anymore about this http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/06/tottenham-and-everton-battling-over-loan-deal-for-barcelona-wonderkid-gerard-deulofeu-3871241/ (http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/06/tottenham-and-everton-battling-over-loan-deal-for-barcelona-wonderkid-gerard-deulofeu-3871241/)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on July 08, 2013, 07:12:37 PM
Sheedy (possible itk) is saying jelavic wants a better contract ie more money so the club are hawking him around trying to get a buyer

I think he's about 12 months too late with that request...
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 08, 2013, 07:13:52 PM
Ha ha i know yeah bit mad like
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on July 08, 2013, 07:17:15 PM
I saw that Moyes said he would do business later on.  Actually laughed at it. United fans will have to get used to crappy transfer windows and last minute signings.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 08, 2013, 07:22:21 PM
I saw that Moyes said he would do business later on.  Actually laughed at it. United fans will have to get used to crappy transfer windows and last minute signings.

Its interesting to see that we've wrapped up two transfers, and have another 2 waiting in the wings at the start of the window. Very rare this happened under Moyes.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Rhys on July 08, 2013, 07:57:08 PM
Its interesting to see that we've wrapped up two transfers, and have another 2 waiting in the wings at the start of the window. Very rare this happened under Moyes.
Its interesting to see that we've wrapped up two transfers, and have another 2 waiting in the wings at the start of the window. Very rare this happened under Moyes.
Its interesting to see that we've wrapped up two transfers, and have another 2 waiting in the wings at the start of the window. Very rare this happened under Moyes.

Biggest difference is in recent seasons we have been waiting on player sales before we can spend anything. This we have a little which will be the fer money so can do something.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: American Evertonian on July 08, 2013, 08:12:01 PM
Anyone heard anymore about this http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/06/tottenham-and-everton-battling-over-loan-deal-for-barcelona-wonderkid-gerard-deulofeu-3871241/ (http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/06/tottenham-and-everton-battling-over-loan-deal-for-barcelona-wonderkid-gerard-deulofeu-3871241/)

Agent said nothing would be sorted until Spain was knocked out of the U-20s. Now that they are should be done in the next two weeks with us currently I'm the lead for his services.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 08, 2013, 09:32:50 PM
Its interesting to see that we've wrapped up two transfers, and have another 2 waiting in the wings at the start of the window. Very rare this happened under Moyes.

We've signed Kone, who else have we signed? And who are the other 2 waiting in the wings?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 08, 2013, 09:34:06 PM
We've signed Kone, who else have we signed? And who are the other 2 waiting in the wings?

Alcaraz will be coming soon, and that Barca kid and Joel seem to be next up.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 08, 2013, 09:34:32 PM
Alcaraz will be coming soon, and that Barca kid and Joel seem to be next up.

You get a like for that.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Lincs Toffee on July 08, 2013, 09:37:03 PM
Alcaraz will be coming soon, and that Barca kid and Joel seem to be next up.
Is that from your Baines ITK or just a vision you have...wouldn't be bad business if its true though, with nobody leaving I would be happy at that for the start of the summer and look again at tweaking in the next transfer window.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on July 08, 2013, 10:17:20 PM
Is that from your Baines ITK or just a vision you have...wouldn't be bad business if its true though, with nobody leaving I would be happy at that for the start of the summer and look again at tweaking in the next transfer window.

Would still prefer to add another central midfielder to that, but yes, that's not a bad start. I'm curious to see if Gueye has a place in this team going forward, or whether he gets sold back to France.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blueToffee on July 08, 2013, 10:26:54 PM
Would still prefer to add another central midfielder to that, but yes, that's not a bad start. I'm curious to see if Gueye has a place in this team going forward, or whether he gets sold back to France.

Almost forgotten about Gueye.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: AidyEFC9 on July 08, 2013, 10:28:20 PM
Its interesting to see that we've wrapped up two transfers, and have another 2 waiting in the wings at the start of the window. Very rare this happened under Moyes.


I assume you mean Kone & Alcaraz as the 2 being wrapped up, who are the other 2 waiting in the wings, Joel & Deulofeu?.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 08, 2013, 10:29:39 PM

I assume you mean Kone & Alcaraz as the 2 being wrapped up, who are the other 2 waiting in the wings, Joel & Deulofeu?.

Yes.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: AidyEFC9 on July 08, 2013, 10:30:26 PM
Strangely this is in the echo today

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-fc-target-keisuke-honda-4881136 (http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-fc-target-keisuke-honda-4881136)

hasn't he already signed for Milan?!


No. They still haven't shifted Robinho out of the club yet, and would prefer to wait till January to sign Honda as they don't want to pay what CSKA are asking for right now.

And it seems Milan are turning there attentions to another player linked to us in the past, Ljajic, remember him?!.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: AidyEFC9 on July 08, 2013, 10:34:27 PM
Anyone heard anymore about this http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/06/tottenham-and-everton-battling-over-loan-deal-for-barcelona-wonderkid-gerard-deulofeu-3871241/ (http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/06/tottenham-and-everton-battling-over-loan-deal-for-barcelona-wonderkid-gerard-deulofeu-3871241/)


Gone a bit quiet this one, but Phil McNulty as said on twitter that we are interested!. This could be the midfielder signing out of all the "units of the team" that Martinez was talking about, as he said he was looking for certain players that could give us a different dimension from what we've already got within the club?!.

Young, tricky winger that could help to change a game in the last 20 mins or so perhaps?.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 08, 2013, 10:35:26 PM
Sportsdirectnews say Everton are ready to trigger Diame's 3.5mil release clause
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: American Evertonian on July 08, 2013, 10:38:40 PM
Almost forgotten about Gueye.

I think he got trapped in a closet or something... :batty:

Sportsdirectnews say Everton are ready to trigger Diame's 3.5mil release clause

Wouldn't be a bad bit of business as long as we are holding onto Felli.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Ross on July 08, 2013, 10:39:40 PM
Sportsdirectnews say Everton are ready to trigger Diame's 3.5mil release clause

One of Martinez former players, a realise clause within our budget, a position we need strengthening....it's got 40 odd page thread written all over it
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 08, 2013, 10:42:04 PM
If we sign Diame our squad will start to look like a Wigan greatest hits compilation
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: American Evertonian on July 08, 2013, 10:42:13 PM
One of Martinez former players, a realise clause within our budget, a position we need strengthening....it's got 40 odd page thread written all over it

Is Sportsdirectnews credible? Never hear too many rumors from them.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 08, 2013, 10:42:35 PM
One of Martinez former players, a realise clause within our budget, a position we need strengthening....it's got 40 odd page thread written all over it

Throw a Championship fullback into the mix and we might top 100.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: American Evertonian on July 08, 2013, 10:43:00 PM
If we sign Diame our squad will start to look like a Wigan greatest hits compilation

Think that album would make it into Leighton's music blog?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 08, 2013, 10:44:55 PM
If we sign Diame our squad will start to look like a Wigan greatest hits compilation

That would be a bit like a CD of greatest hits by Opus.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Ross on July 08, 2013, 10:45:07 PM
Is Sportsdirectnews credible? Never hear too many rumors from them.

Actually they're incredibly uncredible, after having to retract their first ever scoop of Newcastle buying Rooney from Utd because it was made up bollocks!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: cantoffee on July 08, 2013, 10:45:54 PM
Diame is a good player but since when does he have a 3.5 million pound release clause?

I would take him though, still young as well.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Toffeeblue22 on July 08, 2013, 10:47:20 PM
Transfer of david villa has just been agreed with a.madrid for £4.4m,although im fairly happy we have another striker on board in kone,it just puts it into perspective how much we paid,in my opinion villa is much better although his wages would prob be alot more than kone.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: American Evertonian on July 08, 2013, 10:48:57 PM
Actually they're incredibly uncredible, after having to retract their first ever scoop of Newcastle buying Rooney from Utd because it was made up bollocks!

Haha. Well in that case I won't put much stock in it, but as cantoffee said if it's true I'd take him for 3.5m
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: AidyEFC9 on July 08, 2013, 10:49:30 PM
Yes.


Be a good start to dealings with those 4 IMO. I like Kone and he brings summat different to what we have upfront. Jelavic is a good finisher on his day but he cant run the channels and his hold up play isn't the best either. Big Vic is just Big Vic to me, nothing really good about him, he's just a lump who on his day, when he fancies it, can be a brute but he lacks movement up there and his 1st touch at times is shocking and his hold up play is just as bad.

But seeing Kone a few times with Wigan, he runs the channels well aswell as getting into good areas within the penalty box, and he can hold the ball up and bring others into play in good, attacking areas, and he isn't afraid to put a shift in either!. Noticed in the FA Cup final that, although he was playing upfront, when Wigan was defending, he'd switch to the wing and track back, allowing Wigan to leave McManaman up top and give them some pace and trickery on the counter, so don't be surprised to see that happening with Kone and Mirallas next season?!.

As for Alcaraz, he's decent and experienced and will be 3rd choice this season. He'll be on relatively cheap wages amongst our squad and it will allow us to finally sell Heitinga with him being in his final year of his contract so we need to cash in!.

Joel looked decent in goal for Wigan at times last season and will be a good understudy to Howard. Yes, he did have his moments but he's young and still learning (look at De Gea and how long he took to get to grips with our league!). The lad as got some potential.

And Deulofeu could be a game changer type of player for us, someone a bit different to what we have and give us that something extra from the bench to try and change a tight game that we could be drawing into possibly winning?!.

Sign those four and maybe one or two more IF possible for squad depth, along with keeping what we've got and giving the likes of Barkley more of a chance, then our squad to me looks stronger than last season already.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: SpankRock on July 08, 2013, 10:52:48 PM
Transfer of david villa has just been agreed with a.madrid for £4.4m,although im fairly happy we have another striker on board in kone,it just puts it into perspective how much we paid,in my opinion villa is much better although his wages would prob be alot more than kone.

Another angle (to make you feel better), its rumored Wigan are paying £4m for a 32yr old Grant Holt!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: AidyEFC9 on July 08, 2013, 10:52:55 PM
Sportsdirectnews say Everton are ready to trigger Diame's 3.5mil release clause


IF there is anything to it, I wouldn't mind it but apparently he's wanting something like £75K a week at West Ham and they've told him to go earn it in first 3-4 months of season?!.

IF Felli is sold, he'd be a really cheap alternative/replacement which would give us plenty of money to use on the rest of the team.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Verm on July 08, 2013, 10:55:33 PM
Transfer of david villa has just been agreed with a.madrid for £4.4m,although im fairly happy we have another striker on board in kone,it just puts it into perspective how much we paid,in my opinion villa is much better although his wages would prob be alot more than kone.

Villa is also 32, not far off a serious long term injury and, as you've said, probably on a ridiculous wage..
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: American Evertonian on July 08, 2013, 10:57:49 PM

Sign those four and maybe one or two more IF possible for squad depth, along with keeping what we've got and giving the likes of Barkley more of a chance, then our squad to me looks stronger than last season already.

If we do get those four (with hopefully the loan deals have permanent clauses) I would just hope we can get another CM for depth/injury coverage. The shout at Diame for 3.5m isn't bad as it is reasonable price and at worst is a good squad player. With those our line-up looks like this for me:

                 Howard
Coleman  Jags Distin Baines
            Felli   Gibbo
Mirallas  Barkley   Pienaar
                Kone

Bench: Robles, Deulofeu, Osman/Tinga, Naismith/Alcaraz, Vic, Jela, Diame

A solid match day 17 right there with plenty of options for people coming off the bench to contribute like we haven't had in ages.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Toffeeblue22 on July 08, 2013, 10:58:55 PM
Another angle (to make you feel better), its rumored Wigan are paying £4m for a 32yr old Grant Holt!

What !! That has made me feel alot better,bloody mugs...apologise didnt realise villa was that age.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: the roy vernon plan on July 08, 2013, 11:02:44 PM
I hope you are wrong about Alcatriz being the 3rd choice centre-back.

Duffy who signed a three year contract a year ago deserves a decent run. Having played second fiddle to Heitenga who was crap last season the least the club can do is give the lad a run.       
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: American Evertonian on July 08, 2013, 11:07:36 PM
I hope you are wrong about Alcatriz being the 3rd choice centre-back.

Duffy who signed a three year contract a year ago deserves a decent run. Having played second fiddle to Heitenga who was crap last season the least the club can do is give the lad a run.       

Can't imagine him being happy if we can't flog off Tinga too. Duffy could then be looking at being 5th choice CB. Find it hard to think he would start over Tinga who rumored to be on 50-60k/wk.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 08, 2013, 11:09:41 PM
I hope you are wrong about Alcatriz being the 3rd choice centre-back.

Duffy who signed a three year contract a year ago deserves a decent run. Having played second fiddle to Heitenga who was crap last season the least the club can do is give the lad a run.       

Think he is too young to be considered a reliable option.
If he played in an attacking role then fair enough - but centre half/goalkeeper is as much about experience as it is skill.

If it was up to me he would be getting loaned around all over the place with a short term recall option. (so if there is 1 injury/suspension then he comes back and is immediate back up to cover a second injury/suspension)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Waltzer on July 08, 2013, 11:27:09 PM
From TalkSport and TBH I wouldnt mind him but slightly concerned RM radar doesn't seem to be spreading much further than current or old Wigan players!!!

Everton could be poised to make a bid for West Ham midfielder Mohamed Diame.

The Senegal international was strongly linked with moves to Tottenham and Arsenal back in the January transfer window as he is reported to have a £3.5m buy-out clause in his contract.

Diame was outstanding for the east London club last season and played a major role in helping the Hammers secure a top-half finish in the Premier League.

New Everton manager Roberto Martinez is keen to bring in his own players and following the signing of Arouna Kone from Wigan, he is now looking to bring in a new midfielder.

The Spanish coach knows Diame well having managed him at Wigan, which could work in his favour as he knows the qualities he can bring to a team.

But West Ham will be doing everything in their power to ensure the 26-year-old remains at Upton Park and could even offer him a new long-term deal.

Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: AidyEFC9 on July 08, 2013, 11:29:55 PM
If we do get those four (with hopefully the loan deals have permanent clauses) I would just hope we can get another CM for depth/injury coverage. The shout at Diame for 3.5m isn't bad as it is reasonable price and at worst is a good squad player. With those our line-up looks like this for me:

                 Howard
Coleman  Jags Distin Baines
            Felli   Gibbo
Mirallas  Barkley   Pienaar
                Kone

Bench: Robles, Deulofeu, Osman/Tinga, Naismith/Alcaraz, Vic, Jela, Diame

A solid match day 17 right there with plenty of options for people coming off the bench to contribute like we haven't had in ages.


Totally agree mate but I cant see us giving Diame anywhere near £75k a week which he's apparently asking for at West Ham?!. And he must be wanting a lot of money cos surely other clubs would of been in for him at £3.5m as he's a decent player and for that money, worth buying for any club out of the top 4 IMO. But IF he'd be happy with £50k a week or slightly more, than at £3.5m i'd definitely have him at us!.

As for the loan deals, I can see Joel having a set fee agreed for at the end of the deal and at a reasonable price aswell, but Deulofeu will be a totally different story. Maybe they would be willing to let him go eventually, but as I understand it, Barca have high hopes for him?!. So maybe they could do a similar deal with us to the one they've got with Chelsea and Romeu, maybe they'd loan him to us and allows us to buy him for a decent fee but have a clause where they can buy him back for a set fee at any time during the duration of his contract with us, IF they ever wanted him back?!.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blue slug on July 08, 2013, 11:31:28 PM
From TalkSport and TBH I wouldnt mind him but slightly concerned RM radar doesn't seem to be spreading much further than current or old Wigan players!!!

Everton could be poised to make a bid for West Ham midfielder Mohamed Diame.

The Senegal international was strongly linked with moves to Tottenham and Arsenal back in the January transfer window as he is reported to have a £3.5m buy-out clause in his contract.

Diame was outstanding for the east London club last season and played a major role in helping the Hammers secure a top-half finish in the Premier League.

New Everton manager Roberto Martinez is keen to bring in his own players and following the signing of Arouna Kone from Wigan, he is now looking to bring in a new midfielder.

The Spanish coach knows Diame well having managed him at Wigan, which could work in his favour as he knows the qualities he can bring to a team.

But West Ham will be doing everything in their power to ensure the 26-year-old remains at Upton Park and could even offer him a new long-term deal.




That would be an excellent piece of business getting diame in for £3.5m
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 08, 2013, 11:37:29 PM
Decent player Diame.

Remember him absolutely owning Liverpool last season. Totally dominated the midfield and fit WHU 2-0 up.

He then went off injured and the game flipped on its head.

Such was Diames influence.

I'm in!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: American Evertonian on July 08, 2013, 11:42:09 PM
As for the loan deals, I can see Joel having a set fee agreed for at the end of the deal and at a reasonable price aswell, but Deulofeu will be a totally different story. Maybe they would be willing to let him go eventually, but as I understand it, Barca have high hopes for him?!. So maybe they could do a similar deal with us to the one they've got with Chelsea and Romeu, maybe they'd loan him to us and allows us to buy him for a decent fee but have a clause where they can buy him back for a set fee at any time during the duration of his contract with us, IF they ever wanted him back?!.

Would definitely go for something like that if that is what Barça wanted to do. Would make sense for both parties if they wanted him to get some experience for a few years, esp if they want it to be with a Spanish manager who will help him play in a similar style that Barça will want him to play.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: American Evertonian on July 08, 2013, 11:44:54 PM
According to some French reports we are now apparently interested in signing PSG's Clement Chantome. Haven't seen him play before. All I know is he is a 25yo midfielder, but I'm sure some blokes on here have more to contribute than I do on the matter.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Cozzie on July 08, 2013, 11:47:14 PM
If we do get those four (with hopefully the loan deals have permanent clauses) I would just hope we can get another CM for depth/injury coverage. The shout at Diame for 3.5m isn't bad as it is reasonable price and at worst is a good squad player. With those our line-up looks like this for me:

                 Howard
Coleman  Jags Distin Baines
            Felli   Gibbo
Mirallas  Barkley   Pienaar
                Kone

Bench: Robles, Deulofeu, Osman/Tinga, Naismith/Alcaraz, Vic, Jela, Diame

A solid match day 17 right there with plenty of options for people coming off the bench to contribute like we haven't had in ages.

I doubt Martinez will play 4-5-1, or 4-2-3-1 in that case.

Good looking squad though, be surprised if at least ONE of Baines or Fellaini isn't sold though.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Toddacelli on July 08, 2013, 11:56:15 PM
Almost forgotten about Gueye.

Nowadays everybody wanna talk like they got somethin' to say
But nothin' comes out when they move their lips
Just a bunch of gibberish
Them motherfuckers act like they forgot about Gueye!


Sorry! (I know, I know - I've domne that joke before!)

It just had to be done!     Feel free to 'Tool' away!
 
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on July 09, 2013, 12:10:08 AM
If we sign Diame our squad will start to look like a Wigan greatest hits compilation

We need Victor Moses and things could get biblical
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 09, 2013, 12:36:38 AM

 French radio station RMC are saying, Everton are latest club to enter the race to sign Clément Chantôme.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 09, 2013, 12:45:30 AM
Nowadays everybody wanna talk like they got somethin' to say
But nothin' comes out when they move their lips
Just a bunch of gibberish
Them motherfuckers act like they forgot about Gueye!


Sorry! (I know, I know - I've domne that joke before!)

It just had to be done!     Feel free to 'Tool' away!
 

We signed Emminem, too?  Big improvement over Sylvester Stallone for a halftime celebrity. Might even be a big improvement over Heitinga at cb.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on July 09, 2013, 12:47:58 AM
Diame is a brilliant player. Would love him here.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: plowman2 on July 09, 2013, 12:57:54 AM
Watched Diame when he played for Rayo Vallecano and he was top class. Couldn’t believe he went to Wigan, especially when there was talk of Valencia and Betis wanting him. Apparently he has or had problems with his heart I think which might have put a few teams off, but even so Wigan!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 09, 2013, 01:01:55 AM
Should go for Nosa from Betis.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: AidyEFC9 on July 09, 2013, 01:11:45 AM
French radio station RMC are saying, Everton are latest club to enter the race to sign Clément Chantôme.


Was really highly thought of at PSG a few years ago, then they got the Arab investment and bought in players and he hasn't had much of a look in. CM player with good passing range, not exactly a defensive destroyer, neither is he a No.10 but a decent player. For the right price, would be a very good squad player for us, as would Diame, again though, for the right price, wages included!.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: AidyEFC9 on July 09, 2013, 01:13:33 AM
Watched Diame when he played for Rayo Vallecano and he was top class. Couldn’t believe he went to Wigan, especially when there was talk of Valencia and Betis wanting him. Apparently he has or had problems with his heart I think which might have put a few teams off, but even so Wigan!


Yeah apparently he's got an heart defect which put Arsenal off of him back then, that's why Wigan stood the chance of signing him. But he is a good player but it's wages with him, apparently demanding something like £75K a week at WHU?!.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 09, 2013, 01:37:00 AM
Anyone else getting the impression that Martinez' "Everton did really well and I don't want to change too much, just improve where I can" can be translated to:

"We don't really have the money to strengthen the preferred starting 11 so I'm going to introduce my method of football on top of the current squads discipline and make sure we have a stronger squad so we can deal with injuries/drops in form better"

Moyes only ever considered buying someone if he felt they should be starters so as not to waste money (his words paraphrased). I think maybe we are just seeing a different approach to the squad game. (Most managers preference when they join a club with a small squad would be to bulk it out.

I think we'll only see a "star" name come in as a replacement for one of our star names (and Amy funds left over going towards bulking out the squad some more)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on July 09, 2013, 01:38:15 AM
Hated that Miles guy too
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 09, 2013, 01:38:44 AM
Damn, in before I could modify after previewing
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on July 09, 2013, 01:40:24 AM
Damn, in before I could modify after previewing

That will taught you...
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: cantoffee on July 09, 2013, 01:56:15 AM
That will taught you...

You learned him good!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: American Evertonian on July 09, 2013, 02:07:26 AM
Should go for Nosa from Betis.

Maybe BK will just kidnapp him after the friendly and not allow him to leave with the rest of his team back to Spain.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Vespa on July 09, 2013, 03:31:38 AM
Chelsea left-back Ryan Bertrand is attracting interest from fellow Premier League side Everton - following reports of Manchester United stepping up their bid to sign Everton defender Leighton Baines.


http://www.ftbpro.com/posts/crippy.cooke/264197/everton-in-bid-for-chelsea-s-ryan-bertrand?team=Everton&ref=face (http://www.ftbpro.com/posts/crippy.cooke/264197/everton-in-bid-for-chelsea-s-ryan-bertrand?team=Everton&ref=face)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 09, 2013, 03:34:21 AM
Chelsea left-back Ryan Bertrand is attracting interest from fellow Premier League side Everton - following reports of Manchester United stepping up their bid to sign Everton defender Leighton Baines.


http://www.ftbpro.com/posts/crippy.cooke/264197/everton-in-bid-for-chelsea-s-ryan-bertrand?team=Everton&ref=face (http://www.ftbpro.com/posts/crippy.cooke/264197/everton-in-bid-for-chelsea-s-ryan-bertrand?team=Everton&ref=face)
bertrand has always looked decent but can't see it being true
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Rhys on July 09, 2013, 03:48:36 AM
According to some French reports we are now apparently interested in signing PSG's Clement Chantome. Haven't seen him play before. All I know is he is a 25yo midfielder, but I'm sure some blokes on here have more to contribute than I do on the matter.

Not convinced by him. Every time saw him play for PSG last season, admittedly mostly in the champions league he looked not very quick, not big, no strong or powerul and I couldnt work out what type of centre midfielder he was. Didnt spray the ball around, didnt break the play up, didnt get forward much. Reminded me of a lucas type player, ok but not great at anything and no obvious role in the team.

Each time I thought they are lacking a couple of centre midfielders to really challenge for the champions league. Ancelotti was starting Beckham over him, even in the game against barcelona when you would have thought fresher legs would have been key.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 09, 2013, 05:15:36 AM
Biggest difference is in recent seasons we have been waiting on player sales before we can spend anything. This we have a little which will be the fer money so can do something.

Somewhere, David Moyes is crying....ah, probably not. He'll have 10x the Fer money to spend every year.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 09, 2013, 05:43:01 AM

Was really highly thought of at PSG a few years ago, then they got the Arab investment and bought in players and he hasn't had much of a look in. CM player with good passing range, not exactly a defensive destroyer, neither is he a No.10 but a decent player. For the right price, would be a very good squad player for us, as would Diame, again though, for the right price, wages included!.

 I've got to be honest, I know absolutely nothing about the lad - I'm just chuffed that I am really looking forward to the new season.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 09, 2013, 08:36:34 AM
Not convinced by him. Every time saw him play for PSG last season, admittedly mostly in the champions league he looked not very quick, not big, no strong or powerul and I couldnt work out what type of centre midfielder he was. Didnt spray the ball around, didnt break the play up, didnt get forward much. Reminded me of a lucas type player, ok but not great at anything and no obvious role in the team.

Each time I thought they are lacking a couple of centre midfielders to really challenge for the champions league. Ancelotti was starting Beckham over him, even in the game against barcelona when you would have thought fresher legs would have been key.

Sorry to read that, given your assessments are usually pretty spot on. Unless of course we're not interested and the Shite sign him. From what you posted, he does sound like their kind of player.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blueski on July 09, 2013, 09:09:22 AM
Anyone else getting the impression that Martinez' "Everton did really well and I don't want to change too much, just improve where I can" can be translated to:

"We don't really have the money to strengthen the preferred starting 11 so I'm going to introduce my method of football on top of the current squads discipline and make sure we have a stronger squad so we can deal with injuries/drops in form better"

Moyes only ever considered buying someone if he felt they should be starters so as not to waste money (his words paraphrased). I think maybe we are just seeing a different approach to the squad game. (Most managers preference when they join a club with a small squad would be to bulk it out.

I think we'll only see a "star" name come in as a replacement for one of our star names (and Amy funds left over going towards bulking out the squad some more)
you might be right and this might really be a valid approach

to be fair to martinez he has bought some surprisingly decent players on next to nothing in the past for both swansea and wigan
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Toddacelli on July 09, 2013, 02:25:43 PM
Chelsea left-back Ryan Bertrand is attracting interest from fellow Premier League side Everton - following reports of Manchester United stepping up their bid to sign Everton defender Leighton Baines.


http://www.ftbpro.com/posts/crippy.cooke/264197/everton-in-bid-for-chelsea-s-ryan-bertrand?team=Everton&ref=face (http://www.ftbpro.com/posts/crippy.cooke/264197/everton-in-bid-for-chelsea-s-ryan-bertrand?team=Everton&ref=face)

Strange one. Left back? One of our most covered positions I think.
First choice - World Class
Second Choice - Decent International
Youth Options - Promising Internationals x2!

This makes me think this is just paper talk.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on July 09, 2013, 02:50:08 PM
Strange one. Left back? One of our most covered positions I think.
First choice - World Class
Second Choice - Decent International
Youth Options - Promising Internationals x2!

This makes me think this is just paper talk.

Bidwell has left, but yeah, we're still more than covered. Think it's just the media putting a name out there should Baines leave.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Rhys on July 09, 2013, 03:06:55 PM
Sorry to read that, given your assessments are usually pretty spot on. Unless of course we're not interested and the Shite sign him. From what you posted, he does sound like their kind of player.

To be fair I've only seen him 5 or 6 times and I dont normally like judging people over a short spell because you could look at someone like Osman in a bad 5 or 6 game spell he has and wonder how he has ever made it, then others where he looks like has the technical ability, touch and intelligence to play at the highest level. But either he way he isnt the powerful, quick midfielder we have been craving.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: di_guyo on July 09, 2013, 03:14:09 PM
If Baines were to leave Bertrand would be a good shout. Don't fancy Oviedo as a left back to be honest.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Bacarelle on July 09, 2013, 05:13:27 PM
If Baines were to leave Bertrand would be a good shout. Don't fancy Oviedo as a left back to be honest.

Why ?
Oviedo hasn't had much playing time and despite that seems to be well thought of amongst supporters.
Don't forget that when Baines first came he struggled to get into the team at first.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 09, 2013, 05:27:33 PM
That's because Moyes was playing Lescott at left back. We had Jags and Joey in the centre and everything was rosey.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Polledreng on July 09, 2013, 05:35:25 PM
If Baines were to leave Bertrand would be a good shout. Don't fancy Oviedo as a left back to be honest.
I do, and have seen him play probably 20 times in his prefered left back position
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Cods on July 09, 2013, 05:47:40 PM

wouldnt want podolski...overrated. especially on those wages as well...would rather have the money. if was a choice between him and ramsey, id rather have ramsey
Must admit it did take me some time to determine who from the Arsenal squad I would consider, but never would I take Ramsay over Podolski. A proven skillful finisher, one of Germany's top internationals over the past few years. But yes wages would be a problem.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Danny on July 09, 2013, 05:53:45 PM
Even if Oviedo is a bit questionable at first he's stupidly quick so should make up for any errors with pace, that and he's already playing for us so we wouldn't need to necessarily sign a replacement.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 09, 2013, 06:11:55 PM
I think this is were Oviedo gets quite a bit of game time under his belt during the pre-season games, just so Martinez can see how he is and to see whether it may save him some moneyn to spend elsewhere.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Alanvideo on July 09, 2013, 06:20:38 PM
If Baines were to leave Bertrand would be a good shout. Don't fancy Oviedo as a left back to be honest.
.................from what we've seen Ovideo looks more than decent .
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 09, 2013, 06:22:58 PM
.................from what we've seen Ovideo looks more than decent .

How much have you seen of him playing Left Back?

I personally think I have seen him there for about 100 mins against Leeds and some other lower league side, thats it
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on July 09, 2013, 06:30:06 PM
I think this is were Oviedo gets quite a bit of game time under his belt during the pre-season games, just so Martinez can see how he is and to see whether it may save him some moneyn to spend elsewhere.

Yeah I'd presume that Baines got more time off due to those England games whereas Oviedo didn't play in any international games this summer so will have been back last week.

Therefore you'd presume that he'll be starting on Sunday at least. A good chance to have a look at him.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 09, 2013, 06:49:38 PM

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/8814820/ (http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/8814820/)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: steve81 on July 09, 2013, 06:52:29 PM
Everton are set to seal the signing of Paraguayan international defender Antolin Alcaraz.

The 30-year-old defender is a free agent having left Wigan Athletic at the end of the season when his contract expired.

New Everton boss Roberto Martinez has already raided his former club this week to sign Arouna Kone, and now he has moved for another of his former charges in the shape of Alcaraz.

Sky Sports understands the central defender has agreed a two-year deal with the Toffees and is set to sign on at Goodison Park after a medical, which is due to take place on Tuesday.

Alcaraz and Kone could both be joined by another former team-mate as Sky Sports understands that goalkeeper Joel Robles, who was on loan at Wigan last season from Atletico Madrid, is also set for talks with Everton.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 09, 2013, 07:11:33 PM
Fourth Official has tweeted that Alcaraz has escaped Wigan!

 No seriously, FO has tweeted that Alcaraz is with the Everton squad in Austria.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 09, 2013, 07:15:06 PM
I'm glad that these over 30s are being given short contracts though.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Risky on July 09, 2013, 07:15:21 PM
Yeah I'd presume that Baines got more time off due to those England games whereas Oviedo didn't play in any international games this summer so will have been back last week.

Therefore you'd presume that he'll be starting on Sunday at least. A good chance to have a look at him.

Isnt oviedo off to the gold cup now anyway? So he'll not be about for a while...

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Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on July 09, 2013, 07:17:35 PM
Isnt oviedo off to the gold cup now anyway? So he'll not be about for a while...

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Nope., didn't get picked. Neither did Howard.

There aren't a lot of prem players there.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Risky on July 09, 2013, 07:26:40 PM
Nope., didn't get picked. Neither did Howard.

There aren't a lot of prem players there.

Ta, just assumed they were both going to be there.

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Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: cantoffee on July 09, 2013, 07:48:33 PM
Ta, just assumed they were both going to be there.

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Most teams have gone with what I would call experimental sides. Young players, fringe players or mostly MLS based players. Either trying to sort out the last few spots for the World Cup, or in preparation for WC qualifying in a couple years and dropping the old guard.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: American Evertonian on July 09, 2013, 08:04:44 PM
Fourth Official has tweeted that Alcaraz has escaped Wigan!

 No seriously, FO has tweeted that Alcaraz is with the Everton squad in Austria.

So I guess we won't get the classic picture of him awkwardly holding the kit infront of the pitch then to confirm it...
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Ross on July 09, 2013, 08:32:58 PM
So I guess we won't get the classic picture of him awkwardly holding the kit infront of the pitch then to confirm it...

There will be a group one at some point, if you can't wait here's one we made earlier...
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: steve81 on July 09, 2013, 08:35:33 PM
Fourth Official has tweeted that Alcaraz has escaped Wigan!

 No seriously, FO has tweeted that Alcaraz is with the Everton squad in Austria.
i thought he were having a medical at some point this lunchtime
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Polledreng on July 09, 2013, 08:39:42 PM
There will be a group one at some point, if you can't wait here's one we made earlier...
lolol
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: steve81 on July 09, 2013, 08:43:31 PM
http://www.marca.com/2013/07/09/futbol/equipos/atletico/1373371508.html (http://www.marca.com/2013/07/09/futbol/equipos/atletico/1373371508.html)
Joel Robles leaves transferred to Everton, as has been told MARCA. The goalkeeper is in this way with Roberto Martinez, with whom he agreed last season at Wigan. Spanish coach begins his adventure with the 'toffee' and want the goalkeeper with him.

The goal Madrid was very difficult to play at Atletico, as he has before Courtois, and looks minute as it did last season. It so happens that Asenjo also could leave, so that Atletico may be forced to look for a substitute goalkeeper on the market.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on July 09, 2013, 09:04:55 PM
obligatory vid

Joel Robles | All The Best Saves for Wigan Athletic [HD] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVwtMfp98Pc#ws)

Seems to parry the ball a lot.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blueToffee on July 09, 2013, 09:11:03 PM
He looks decent. Although I think they were padding in some of those earlier "saves" as he didn't get that many minutes for Wigan last year. It'll be great to have some serious competition for Howard. He looks a bit taller too which is always a bit of plus for me with a goalkeeper.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Danny on July 09, 2013, 09:26:32 PM
He looks decent. Although I think they were padding in some of those earlier "saves" as he didn't get that many minutes for Wigan last year. It'll be great to have some serious competition for Howard. He looks a bit taller too which is always a bit of plus for me with a goalkeeper.

6ft 5 he is.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 09, 2013, 09:32:22 PM
Was he the cunt that was dancing all over the pitch at our gaff when Wigan ran riot in the cup?

Right in front of the Gwladdy an'all!!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: American Evertonian on July 09, 2013, 09:55:18 PM
If this Robles thing is true. How unlike EFC is it to do business early in a window, let alone get 3 players in 2 days.

Tough not to get excited. Now if we can get Deulofeu in and one other midfielder I will be ecstatic.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on July 09, 2013, 10:03:49 PM
If this Robles thing is true. How unlike EFC is it to do business early in a window, let alone get 3 players in 2 days.

Tough not to get excited. Now if we can get Deulofeu in and one other midfielder I will be ecstatic.

I really think Martinez wants to have the squad (bar maybe one late addition that doesn't become available until late in the window--Honda, perhaps?) completely sorted before we go to the US. And I like that, give the squad time to gel under whatever changes to the system RM&Co implement.

Deulofeu on loan and, say, Diame would be a keen bit of business.
Robles can push Howard more than Mucha did.
Fullbacks are set in Baines and Coleman, with solid cover in Oviedo and Hibbert, plus Garbutt and Stones in the U21s.
Centre-half is quality with Jagielka plus one of Distin/Alcaraz/Heitinga (if he remains), plus Duffy waiting.
Fellaini, Gibson, and ?Diame? in deeper midfield, Osman and Barkley further forward in attack.
Pienaar and Mirallas wide, with Deulofeu who could hypothetically push Pienaar inside. Plus Gueye (whatever happens to him), and the young Kennedy.
Koné, Jelavic, and Anichebe up top, with Naismith and Vellios (if not loaned) in reserve.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: American Evertonian on July 09, 2013, 10:39:28 PM
I really think Martinez wants to have the squad (bar maybe one late addition that doesn't become available until late in the window--Honda, perhaps?) completely sorted before we go to the US. And I like that, give the squad time to gel under whatever changes to the system RM&Co implement.

Deulofeu on loan and, say, Diame would be a keen bit of business.
Robles can push Howard more than Mucha did.
Fullbacks are set in Baines and Coleman, with solid cover in Oviedo and Hibbert, plus Garbutt and Stones in the U21s.
Centre-half is quality with Jagielka plus one of Distin/Alcaraz/Heitinga (if he remains), plus Duffy waiting.
Fellaini, Gibson, and ?Diame? in deeper midfield, Osman and Barkley further forward in attack.
Pienaar and Mirallas wide, with Deulofeu who could hypothetically push Pienaar inside. Plus Gueye (whatever happens to him), and the young Kennedy.
Koné, Jelavic, and Anichebe up top, with Naismith and Vellios (if not loaned) in reserve.

Spot on mate. You're going to rack up some cool points for that post!

I think it is incredibly important to get business done early to allow them the most time to learn his system as we all know it greatly differs from Moyes's set-up. Our players will greatly benefit from getting some time together before facing some quality pre-season competition in America. Also it will help our brand to play better in that tournament while getting a big scalp or two.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Danny on July 09, 2013, 10:47:12 PM
Alcaraz confirmed

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2013/07/09/blues-seal-alcaraz-deal (http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2013/07/09/blues-seal-alcaraz-deal)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: American Evertonian on July 09, 2013, 11:08:08 PM
Some reports saying the Robles has flown with the squad to Austria. Not sure if true, but would be surprising for him to do so without a deal or loan in place.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on July 09, 2013, 11:10:13 PM
Some reports saying the Robles has flown with the squad to Austria. Not sure if true, but would be surprising for him to do so without a deal or loan in place.

Everything could be done bar international clearance?

Although reading Atlético's os it said that he wasn't back for their pre-season due to his u-21 involvement so I'd have thought he'd have still been on holiday (like Kone) either way?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: whichonespink on July 09, 2013, 11:17:17 PM
now robles is in!!!

http://www.clubatleticodemadrid.com/noticias/atletico-de-madrid-y-everton-acuerdan-el-traspaso-de-joel-2 (http://www.clubatleticodemadrid.com/noticias/atletico-de-madrid-y-everton-acuerdan-el-traspaso-de-joel-2)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on July 09, 2013, 11:26:32 PM
now robles is in!!!

http://www.clubatleticodemadrid.com/noticias/atletico-de-madrid-y-everton-acuerdan-el-traspaso-de-joel-2 (http://www.clubatleticodemadrid.com/noticias/atletico-de-madrid-y-everton-acuerdan-el-traspaso-de-joel-2)

"The Madrid-born keeper will remain in England after his positive experience at Wigan during the second half of last season.

Atletico Madrid and Everton have reached an agreement for the transfer of Joel Robles to the English club. The keeper, who ended last season playing on loan at Wigan, will compete in the Premier League with the Liverpool squad following the agreement reached between the three parties. From our club we wish him much luck in this new stage of his career."

Sure sounds like a permanent deal, can't have been much of a fee since he was on the last year of his deal and was third choice at Atletico.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 09, 2013, 11:38:50 PM
This is extraordinary.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Cozzie on July 09, 2013, 11:44:36 PM
Seems now that "dithering dave" wasn't just a jarg nick name after all.

I genuinely dont think its coincedence that he has gone and we have potentially signed 3 players in one week, all be it one of them on loan and one on a free transfer.

Seems like Dave certainly did dither after all.

I'm just really happy that we have got these players in before the US tour.

If we can get the barca kid and honda before then too then it will be brilliant.

Still a little worried about Baines and Felli, something tells me at least one of them will be gone before the season starts, but if they go for the right price, I guess thats just football.

Finally a transfer window not shrouded in doubt.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on July 09, 2013, 11:44:42 PM
I really think Martinez wants to have the squad (bar maybe one late addition that doesn't become available until late in the window--Honda, perhaps?) completely sorted before we go to the US. And I like that, give the squad time to gel under whatever changes to the system RM&Co implement.

Deulofeu on loan and, say, Diame would be a keen bit of business.
Robles can push Howard more than Mucha did.
Fullbacks are set in Baines and Coleman, with solid cover in Oviedo and Hibbert, plus Garbutt and Stones in the U21s.
Centre-half is quality with Jagielka plus one of Distin/Alcaraz/Heitinga (if he remains), plus Duffy waiting.
Fellaini, Gibson, and ?Diame? in deeper midfield, Osman and Barkley further forward in attack.
Pienaar and Mirallas wide, with Deulofeu who could hypothetically push Pienaar inside. Plus Gueye (whatever happens to him), and the young Kennedy.
Koné, Jelavic, and Anichebe up top, with Naismith and Vellios (if not loaned) in reserve.

I don't know if Deulofeu is worth it. So young and raw and not ready for the first team at all. A loan should be someone that will add value to our first team. Not sure he can do that right now.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on July 09, 2013, 11:45:27 PM
Seems now that "dithering dave" wasn't just a jarg nick name after all.

I genuinely dont think its coincedence that he has gone and we have potentially signed 3 players in one week, all be it one of them on loan and one on a free transfer.

Seems like Dave certainly did dither after all.

I'm just really happy that we have got these players in before the US tour.

If we can get the barca kid and honda before then two it will be brilliant.

Still a little worried about Baines and Felli, something tells me at least one of them will be gone before the season starts, but if they go for the right price, I guess thats just football.

Finally a transfer window not shrouded in doubt.

Seems like Robles was bought too. Not loaned.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 09, 2013, 11:47:06 PM
All this early action going on, it could mean that the "f5" key won't be taking some hammer on August 31st.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: marky v on July 09, 2013, 11:53:23 PM
I think some have come round to Martinez already as we've been so active, good news for the club,

i would of hated for us to be unprepared players wise for that great tournament
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: American Evertonian on July 09, 2013, 11:53:37 PM
All this early action going on, it could mean that the "f5" key won't be taking some hammer on August 31st.

I think this might actually mean...

Bill finally found...wait for it.....the Arteta money
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Simon Paul on July 10, 2013, 12:10:07 AM
"Where's the....erm....the....erm....e njoy the game Bill"
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Alanvideo on July 10, 2013, 12:15:12 AM
All this early action going on, it could mean that the "f5" key won't be taking some hammer on August 31st.
.........Jim White isn't going to like this lolol
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Silas on July 10, 2013, 12:15:12 AM
"Where's the....erm....the....erm....e njoy the game Bill"

In Billy Bob we trust?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Eddie on July 10, 2013, 12:29:14 AM
The Spanish fella who is on Sky Sports and talks about all la liga news claims we are favourites to get Deulofeu.

From twitter:

@GuillemBalague: Everton clear favourites to get Deulofeu. Loan deal but no more: he will go back at Barcelona. I'll be going to Goodison often this year!

Looks like RM Spanish influence is having some sway in the market.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on July 10, 2013, 12:30:17 AM
The Spanish fella who is on Sky Sports and talks about all la liga news claims we are favourites to get Deulofeu.

From twitter:

@GuillemBalague: Everton clear favourites to get Deulofeu. Loan deal but no more: he will go back at Barcelona. I'll be going to Goodison often this year!

Looks like RM Spanish influence is having some sway in the market.

Silas beat you to it mate, check the iTK thread
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Eddie on July 10, 2013, 12:32:26 AM
My bad...not sure it counts as ITK though!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Silas on July 10, 2013, 12:38:35 AM
My bad...not sure it counts as ITK though!

Ha, big crossover on these two threads I think.  Me pasting it makes me ITK though right? RIGHT!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on July 10, 2013, 12:40:12 AM
Ha, big crossover on these two threads I think.  Me pasting it makes me ITK though right? RIGHT!

I tooled you for the arrogance!. i am in afoul mood.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: American Evertonian on July 10, 2013, 12:43:14 AM
I don't know about you all but seeing the badge so often next to the words "BREAKING NEWS" and "TRANSFER" is subconsciously getting to me.

Starting to come around on it.... :bonk:
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Silas on July 10, 2013, 12:46:37 AM
I tooled you for the arrogance!. i am in afoul mood.

Thankfully I couldn't give a shit.  Numbers don't matter, unless they are blood sugars or something.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 10, 2013, 12:46:43 AM
The Spanish fella who is on Sky Sports and talks about all la liga news claims we are favourites to get Deulofeu.

From twitter:

@GuillemBalague: Everton clear favourites to get Deulofeu. Loan deal but no more: he will go back at Barcelona. I'll be going to Goodison often this year!

Looks like RM Spanish influence is having some sway in the market.
i cannot make sense of that
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Eddie on July 10, 2013, 12:47:04 AM
Ha, big crossover on these two threads I think.  Me pasting it makes me ITK though right? RIGHT!

Yeah and I got tooled for it!

Haha even if i were RM himself I'd still be wary of claiming to be ITK on here! You go for it though mate...I'm right behind ya  :whistle:
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on July 10, 2013, 12:47:54 AM
Thankfully I couldn't give a shit.  Numbers don't matter, unless they are blood sugars or something.

And bank balances
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Silas on July 10, 2013, 12:49:08 AM
And bank balances

Ah you mean negative numbers.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 10, 2013, 12:51:21 AM
Thankfully I couldn't give a shit.  Numbers don't matter, unless they are blood sugars or something.

Or a breathalyser
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on July 10, 2013, 12:55:47 AM
Ah you mean negative numbers.

Or low positives

We better stop this. Somebody is going to shout at us for derailing a thread
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: evertonjoe on July 10, 2013, 03:09:51 AM
Seeing rumours on FB (not from any ITK) that we're in for Moses.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 10, 2013, 03:16:51 AM
Facebook: Great for finding out what people have for tea.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on July 10, 2013, 03:38:23 AM
Shit the bed! Two signings in one day!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Cassius on July 10, 2013, 04:19:26 AM
Seems now that "dithering dave" wasn't just a jarg nick name after all.

I genuinely dont think its coincedence that he has gone and we have potentially signed 3 players in one week, all be it one of them on loan and one on a free transfer.

Seems like Dave certainly did dither after all.


I'm just really happy that we have got these players in before the US tour.

If we can get the barca kid and honda before then too then it will be brilliant.

Still a little worried about Baines and Felli, something tells me at least one of them will be gone before the season starts, but if they go for the right price, I guess thats just football.

Finally a transfer window not shrouded in doubt.

I'm not so sure about the dithering thing as much as I understand the shouts.

Roberto has brought in 3 players who all played for him a few months ago for about £8m. He knows them, he knows we can afford them and they want to come. Easy buys.

This was maybe our entire summer budget under DM without selling players, so maybe he waited longer to bring in money from selling so that he could buy exactly who he wanted?

I genuinely don't know, I'm playing devil's advocate, but I think a new manager's transfer business will be different to an established manager's and that's what we're witnessing.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Toddacelli on July 10, 2013, 04:47:34 AM
I hate judging players off the YouTube vids but....

I have to - what else I got?

Robles. Looks very raw. Nothing sticks. Obviously got decent pedigree from the clubs he has been at so may be one for the future.

I hope he will eventually push Howard but I'm not expecting it this season.

Sorry. That sounds miserable as fuck doesn't it?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on July 10, 2013, 05:17:09 AM
I hate judging players off the YouTube vids but....

I have to - what else I got?

Robles. Looks very raw. Nothing sticks. Obviously got decent pedigree from the clubs he has been at so may be one for the future.

I hope he will eventually push Howard but I'm not expecting it this season.

Sorry. That sounds miserable as fuck doesn't it?

Hows your Strac love going?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on July 10, 2013, 05:21:06 AM
Hows your Strac love going?

What have you done????
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: sirblue57 on July 10, 2013, 05:34:00 AM
What have you done????

yeah, she is in one of those moods tonight
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 10, 2013, 07:27:26 AM
I hate judging players off the YouTube vids but....

I have to - what else I got?

Robles. Looks very raw. Nothing sticks. Obviously got decent pedigree from the clubs he has been at so may be one for the future.

I hope he will eventually push Howard but I'm not expecting it this season.

Sorry. That sounds miserable as fuck doesn't it?

He doesn't have to this season. Howard has several years at the top yet, by the time he retires, Robels will be ready to take over.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Audrey Horne on July 10, 2013, 07:58:56 AM
What have you done????

What?!!!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Polledreng on July 10, 2013, 11:17:15 AM
I'm not so sure about the dithering thing as much as I understand the shouts.

Roberto has brought in 3 players who all played for him a few months ago for about £8m. He knows them, he knows we can afford them and they want to come. Easy buys.

This was maybe our entire summer budget under DM without selling players, so maybe he waited longer to bring in money from selling so that he could buy exactly who he wanted?

I genuinely don't know, I'm playing devil's advocate, but I think a new manager's transfer business will be different to an established manager's and that's what we're witnessing.
You could be right... guess he is waiting to sell Rooney so he can start buying more players. If the rumours of bid for Baines beginning with 10 or 12 mill. I could have an idea as to why it took him so long. Will have to say I really don' think his Baines bid (if any) did start that low  ;)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Toddacelli on July 10, 2013, 12:34:39 PM
Hows your Strac love going?

I just think that with all this signing that Martinez is doing - surely there's room for a cheap hardworking striker in the squad?

Especially one who can come on and smash the likes of Stoke when they're playing rugby!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on July 10, 2013, 12:59:59 PM
He doesn't have to this season. Howard has several years at the top yet, by the time he retires, Robels will be ready to take over.

This.

I'm hoping, given Robles' age that it will enable a smooth changeover when the time comes.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: jongre123 on July 10, 2013, 08:55:16 PM
Graham Hunter ‏@BumperGraham 2m
Toffees now asking about #Rafinha. I can't say for SURE he's not coming to Goodison but queue of Liga clubs and Celta Vigo look v likely

I assume he means Thiago's brother.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blueToffee on July 10, 2013, 09:04:57 PM
Graham Hunter ‏@BumperGraham 2m
Toffees now asking about #Rafinha. I can't say for SURE he's not coming to Goodison but queue of Liga clubs and Celta Vigo look v likely

I assume he means Thiago's brother.


I think it'd be him too. A friend for Deulofeu might not be a bad thing :)

Barcelona could become our feeder club ;)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: brap2 on July 10, 2013, 09:11:03 PM
I think it'd be him too. A friend for Deulofeu might not be a bad thing :)

Barcelona could become our feeder club ;)

Thiagos brother, rodrigos cousin and son of mazinho, WC winning Brazilian.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 10, 2013, 09:30:37 PM
Thiagos brother, rodrigos cousin and son of mazinho, WC winning Brazilian.

Looks like he has pedigree, chum.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Ross on July 10, 2013, 09:33:44 PM
Looks like he has pedigree, chum.

Could help us win a lot
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 10, 2013, 09:37:09 PM
He looks Symply the best.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Gash on July 10, 2013, 09:37:42 PM
Could help us win a lot

You could be right Pal.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 10, 2013, 09:40:54 PM
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Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blob on July 10, 2013, 09:48:20 PM
You could be right Pal.

good point, chappie.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 10, 2013, 10:41:15 PM
good point, chappie.

Hope he doesn't make a pigs ear of it.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 10, 2013, 10:46:09 PM
Come on lads. Play ball.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Ross on July 10, 2013, 11:07:42 PM
Come on lads. Play ball.

I'm really looking forward to seeing some Johan Cruft turns
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Makis on July 10, 2013, 11:20:50 PM
I would imagine there might be some work permit issues with Rafinha?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 10, 2013, 11:38:28 PM
Nah, you're barking up the wrong tree.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blue slug on July 10, 2013, 11:39:20 PM
I would imagine there might be some work permit issues with Rafinha?

Shouldnt be mate as his brother thiago plays for spain and lived there for years so will defo have eu passport
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on July 10, 2013, 11:49:40 PM
Shouldnt be mate as his brother thiago plays for spain and lived there for years so will defo have eu passport

Yep. Spanish citizen by virtue of birth. Represented Spain at youth level until he switched allegiance to Brazil. And if he's anything like his brother, he'll speak fine English.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: American Evertonian on July 11, 2013, 12:52:41 AM
Everton....I uh...I don't know what this feeling is......um..........but I..............I think..........I think I love you
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on July 11, 2013, 12:53:45 AM
Time to close all threads. Surely our business is done for this window.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: fubarruk on July 11, 2013, 01:25:51 AM
Time to close all threads. Surely our business is done for this window.

Considering the actual amount of money spent, I'm cautiously hopeful of another, permanent, midfield signing, but can't imagine anything more than that.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on July 11, 2013, 02:13:40 AM
Considering the actual amount of money spent, I'm cautiously hopeful of another, permanent, midfield signing, but can't imagine anything more than that.

Would depend on the Robles fee I'd guess.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: howlin wolf on July 11, 2013, 02:22:46 AM
Time to close all threads. Surely our business is done for this window.

So you're assuming that Fellaini, Baines, Heitinga will all be staying ? Brave man !
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: cantoffee on July 11, 2013, 02:26:44 AM
Would depend on the Robles fee I'd guess.

If we really did only pay 650k for him then you'd have to assume that we'd still have some money.

And if Heitinga leaves, I would expect one more player to come in.

Otherwise, I can't see much more than a cheap youngster or two coming in for between 500k and 1 million.

Our business, at least in regards to players that can contribute to the squad right away is likely mostly done, barring any outgoings (which is obviously a distinct possibility).
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on July 11, 2013, 02:37:18 AM
If we really did only pay 650k for him then you'd have to assume that we'd still have some money.

And if Heitinga leaves, I would expect one more player to come in.

Otherwise, I can't see much more than a cheap youngster or two coming in for between 500k and 1 million.

Our business, at least in regards to players that can contribute to the squad right away is likely mostly done, barring any outgoings (which is obviously a distinct possibility).

Hopefully whatever we've got left and a Heitinga sale would fund another CM.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on July 11, 2013, 02:42:55 AM
Surprised we haven't heard anything on the Heitinga front.

Woud be funny if it is announced that he has signed a new deal.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on July 11, 2013, 02:47:55 AM
Surprised we haven't heard anything on the Heitinga front.

Woud be funny if it is announced that he has signed a new deal.

That'd be ok if Martínez rates him and can get him playing well.

The concern is us losing out on money on someone who isn't of much use.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on July 11, 2013, 02:53:46 AM
That'd be ok if Martínez rates him and can get him playing well.

The concern is us losing out on money on someone who isn't of much use.

Of course but the amount of hate towards him on this site is unreal. I really think he will fit in well into Martinez style of play.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on July 11, 2013, 02:59:21 AM
Of course but the amount of hate towards him on this site is unreal. I really think he will fit in well into Martinez style of play.

Thr problem is that he was so exposed last year that is is hard to have confidence that he'll ever be solid enough again whether he can pass or not.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on July 11, 2013, 03:03:12 AM
He will benefit from having Fellaini in front of him. It is very difficult to find a defender who is all things. Heitngs certainly isn't but he does have a few redeeming qualities.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Silas on July 11, 2013, 03:04:32 AM
He will benefit from having Fellaini in front of him. It is very difficult to find a defender who is all things. Heitngs certainly isn't but he does have a few redeeming qualities.

On form he has more than a few, as GLewis says though it's whether he can ever return to that.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Vespa on July 11, 2013, 03:07:41 AM
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Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: fubarruk on July 11, 2013, 03:08:03 AM
Hopefully whatever we've got left and a Heitinga sale would fund another CM.

If, and it's still a big if, Fellaini stays, and is used as an out and out CM, along with Gibson, Ossie and an emerging Barkley, then I think we're ok there. I'd rather see another attacking midfielder brought in.

Should Felli leave, I'd like to think Martinez has already highlighted it as a possibility and has a cautious eye on a replacement. He certainly seems clued up so far....
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on July 11, 2013, 03:08:16 AM
On form he has more than a few, as GLewis says though it's whether he can ever return to that.

he is young enough and it's not like he relies on pace to begin with
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on July 11, 2013, 03:11:02 AM
He will benefit from having Fellaini in front of him. It is very difficult to find a defender who is all things. Heitngs certainly isn't but he does have a few redeeming qualities.

He has always played better with Felli in front of him, that's true.

Obviously he has redeeming qualities as he won player of the year, but the lack of the basic skills at times last year was too concerning for me.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on July 11, 2013, 03:18:51 AM
If, and it's still a big if, Fellaini stays, and is used as an out and out CM, along with Gibson, Ossie and an emerging Barkley, then I think we're ok there. I'd rather see another attacking midfielder brought in.

Should Felli leave, I'd like to think Martinez has already highlighted it as a possibility and has a cautious eye on a replacement. He certainly seems clued up so far....

I'd be surprised if Barkley is used too often in a deeper role this year.

Therefore we'd have Barkley, Pienaar, Mirallas, Deulofeu and Osman who can all play there - that's in comparison to only really Felli who is a powerful midfielder.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: fubarruk on July 11, 2013, 03:20:47 AM
On a side note, for what it's worth,

Santos unable to sign Robinho, due to financial problems. [via @BrazilStats] the knock on effect means AC Milan can't sign Honda now.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: efcraz on July 11, 2013, 03:21:58 AM
On a side note, for what it's worth,

Santos unable to sign Robinho, due to financial problems. [via @BrazilStats] the knock on effect means AC Milan can't sign Honda now.

triple like x7
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Cozzie on July 11, 2013, 03:30:14 AM
On a side note, for what it's worth,

Santos unable to sign Robinho, due to financial problems. [via @BrazilStats] the knock on effect means AC Milan can't sign Honda now.

*FULL ON EJACULATES*
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 11, 2013, 03:30:53 AM
Surprised we haven't heard anything on the Heitinga front.

Woud be funny if it is announced that he has signed a new deal.

I wont be laughing.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on July 11, 2013, 03:43:00 AM
I wont be laughing.

No you won't. Don't want to know what Bally will do.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: BrotherEstapol on July 11, 2013, 12:09:15 PM
On a side note, for what it's worth,

Santos unable to sign Robinho, due to financial problems. [via @BrazilStats] the knock on effect means AC Milan can't sign Honda now.
If we signed Honda I would probably jizz in my pants.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: ally2 on July 11, 2013, 01:39:20 PM
Can Ossie or Barkley play defensive mid?  I doubt it. Otherwise we only have Fellaini (who may not be here) and Gibson (always gets injured). I don't want to see heitinga or jags there again.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 11, 2013, 02:05:42 PM
Can Ossie or Barkley play defensive mid?  I doubt it. Otherwise we only have Fellaini (who may not be here) and Gibson (always gets injured). I don't want to see heitinga or jags there again.

With Martinez there will be no room for defensive midfielders.

Atrack attack attack
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: steve81 on July 11, 2013, 03:41:29 PM


    http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/325781/? (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/325781/?)

    AIDEN McGEADY has taken a giant leap towards the Premier League and a possible move to Everton.

    The Irish winger, 27, is desperate to leave Spartak Moscow and has refused to sign a new contract at the Russian club.

    And now, after weeks of uncertainty, the door is open for McGeady to go after he was put up for sale by Spartak Moscow.

    McGeady is out of contract next year and Spartak want to cash in while they can.

    He said: “I have ambitions to play in England and have made it clear I won’t be signing a new contract."

    New Everton boss Roberto Martinez has taken over from David Moyes and has already made big strides in reshaping his squad.

    He yesterday signed 19-year-old forward Gerard Deulofeu on a season-long loan from Barcelona while deals for Antolin Alcaraz and Joel Robles have also been sealed.

    McGeady made his name in a six-year spell at Celtic and earned himself a £9.5m to Spartak in 2010.

Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Lincs Toffee on July 11, 2013, 03:44:07 PM
We can do better than McGeady...whilst he has the speed he has the skill of Naismith.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 11, 2013, 03:45:22 PM
Rumours still abound about Moses
Saying he really wants the move, Chelsea want rid but permanently and we cant afford that fee but want a loan to buy move

Not sure how realistic this is
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: steve81 on July 11, 2013, 03:46:33 PM
need a strong powerful midfielder more than anything
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 11, 2013, 03:58:15 PM
The mail but

 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2360058/Arsenal-Everton-hoping-snap-Belgian-ace-Junior-Malanda-free-transfer.html
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: di_guyo on July 11, 2013, 04:05:21 PM
Would be happy with that. Rather get an attacking mid and push Felli back to his position, as good as he is, with the ball on the deck hes not the type of player to cut defences apart...
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Cozzie on July 11, 2013, 05:12:10 PM
I wonder how much money we could make from potential sales of Naismith and Gueye?

Probably not a lot, maybe 5/6M for both of them combined, i'd be happy to see both of them leave and use the money for Honda/Moses.

Surely both Naismith and Gueye aren't in Martinez' plans, i'd be surprised if they where tbh.

Still think we need a Center Mid and a Winger.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: brap2 on July 11, 2013, 05:43:23 PM
Of course but the amount of hate towards him on this site is unreal. I really think he will fit in well into Martinez style of play.

I rate him personally. The hate towards him is just fucking boring John merro shit.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Ross on July 11, 2013, 05:44:30 PM
I wonder how much money we could make from potential sales of Naismith and Gueye?

Probably not a lot, maybe 5/6M for both of them combined, i'd be happy to see both of them leave and use the money for Honda/Moses.

Surely both Naismith and Gueye aren't in Martinez' plans, i'd be surprised if they where tbh.

Still think we need a Center Mid and a Winger.

£5/6m for them 2, of course my friend!

Let me introduce myself, I'm a Nigerian prince and would like to offer you a unique business opportunity ....
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 11, 2013, 06:13:08 PM
I wonder how much money we could make from potential sales of Naismith and Gueye?

Probably not a lot, maybe 5/6M for both of them combined, i'd be happy to see both of them leave and use the money for Honda/Moses.

Surely both Naismith and Gueye aren't in Martinez' plans, i'd be surprised if they where tbh.

Still think we need a Center Mid and a Winger.

Well if the rest of the world think like the majority of posters on here we will have to pay to get rid of them
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: tonysoprano on July 11, 2013, 06:30:55 PM
5 to 6 million?   only if they are sold as sex slaves ,even then Ive got my doubts
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: steve81 on July 11, 2013, 07:48:38 PM
http://www.europacalcio.it/news/leverton-sorpassa-il-liverpool-per-jorginho-18337.html (http://www.europacalcio.it/news/leverton-sorpassa-il-liverpool-per-jorginho-18337.html)
In the race to Jorginho Everton seems to have surpassed Liverpool. The reds seemed to have almost closed for the Brazilian player class 91 'with an offer of 8 million to Verona, but, in the last hours, seems to be ready to lash auction with the other team of Liverpool, Everton. As reported by Pedullà, biancoblù offered 9 million for the midfielder and at this point can not be excluded a revival of Liverpool.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 11, 2013, 07:49:31 PM
Everton outbidding Liverpool???
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 11, 2013, 07:51:52 PM
http://www.europacalcio.it/news/leverton-sorpassa-il-liverpool-per-jorginho-18337.html (http://www.europacalcio.it/news/leverton-sorpassa-il-liverpool-per-jorginho-18337.html)
In the race to Jorginho Everton seems to have surpassed Liverpool. The reds seemed to have almost closed for the Brazilian player class 91 'with an offer of 8 million to Verona, but, in the last hours, seems to be ready to lash auction with the other team of Liverpool, Everton. As reported by Pedullà, biancoblù offered 9 million for the midfielder and at this point can not be excluded a revival of Liverpool.

He's fucking great on Fifa, bough him last night for Inter 5mil.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on July 11, 2013, 07:56:10 PM
http://www.europacalcio.it/news/leverton-sorpassa-il-liverpool-per-jorginho-18337.html (http://www.europacalcio.it/news/leverton-sorpassa-il-liverpool-per-jorginho-18337.html)
In the race to Jorginho Everton seems to have surpassed Liverpool. The reds seemed to have almost closed for the Brazilian player class 91 'with an offer of 8 million to Verona, but, in the last hours, seems to be ready to lash auction with the other team of Liverpool, Everton. As reported by Pedullà, biancoblù offered 9 million for the midfielder and at this point can not be excluded a revival of Liverpool.

This is the type of link I was expecting with RM's appointment!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 11, 2013, 08:04:26 PM
In what way Glewis?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 11, 2013, 08:09:21 PM
This is fuckin' mental.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: bigmanbob on July 11, 2013, 08:23:10 PM
Never heard of him?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on July 11, 2013, 08:27:28 PM
I've not seen a single picture of Heitinga in Austria, has he been on international duty lately?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: ForzaItalia on July 11, 2013, 08:33:02 PM
Never heard of him?

Plays for Verona, that's about all I know. Lazio wanted him a while back
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: david smallman on July 11, 2013, 08:34:45 PM
I've not seen a single picture of Heitinga in Austria, has he been on international duty lately?
Still chasing Kones shadow somewhere in wigan
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: whichonespink on July 11, 2013, 08:43:45 PM
there have been no sightings of jelavic either

or coleman
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Danny on July 11, 2013, 08:45:44 PM
I want to know why we can't afford Moses for 8 million when we apparently have another 14 ish million to spent if rumours are true, got to hope we've got a marquee signing lined up.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 11, 2013, 08:46:28 PM
I want to know why we can't afford Moses for 8 million when we apparently have another 14 ish million to spent if rumours are true, got to hope we've got a marquee signing lined up.

Or we're not 100% sure of him and want to see if he is as good in our new system as Martinez thinks he may be?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 11, 2013, 08:56:16 PM
I've not seen a single picture of Heitinga in Austria, has he been on international duty lately?

As well as having a clause to match the highest earner he has a clause that matches the longest holidays too
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on July 11, 2013, 09:12:05 PM
In what way Glewis?

In the...who is he? I've no idea but therefore I can imagine he's a technical wizard who's going to transform our way of playing and lead us to the title way!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 11, 2013, 09:18:50 PM
haha, I couldn't tell if you were praising Martinez or criticising the media or both
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 11, 2013, 09:19:27 PM
I've not seen a single picture of Heitinga in Austria, has he been on international duty lately?

He's up against Kone in training, therefore he'll most likely be found in his arse pocket.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on July 11, 2013, 10:22:53 PM
Remember That CB we were after called Forren?

Returned to Molde, 6 months after joining Southampton without making an appearance.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: School of Science on July 11, 2013, 10:24:09 PM
Remember That CB we were after called Forren?

Returned to Molde, 6 months after joining Southampton without making an appearance.

Shades of Krodlup then
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blue slug on July 11, 2013, 10:29:56 PM
Just goes to show that some players just cant step up to the next level or pace of the premier league
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 11, 2013, 10:38:23 PM
This is the sort of signing to really make your balls twitch!

Young, improving and massively talented. Signing permanent meaning we ave him for more than a year.

Smart moves Roberto. Smart moves.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Trowel on July 11, 2013, 11:11:28 PM
Tancredi Palmeri says Sky Italy are reporting Honda has signed a pre-contract with Milan, to join on a free in January :(
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blue slug on July 11, 2013, 11:22:31 PM
Thanks for the honda update mate. Didnt think we had much of a chance with him if im honest
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: brap2 on July 11, 2013, 11:37:18 PM
Is that guy we've 'out bid liverpool' someone we actually think could happen? I thought martinez was looking at the squad first? Looks like standard paper rumours imo. Hope I'm wrong though, he sounds fancy.

Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: American Evertonian on July 11, 2013, 11:41:50 PM
Is that guy we've 'out bid liverpool' someone we actually think could happen? I thought martinez was looking at the squad first? Looks like standard paper rumours imo. Hope I'm wrong though, he sounds fancy.

Did a quick search on Google about him and all that popped up was rumors linking him to other clubs. In the last year he's been linked with us, L'pool, Arsenal, Inter, and AC Milan. It would appear his agent is just beating the drum trying to create interest to get him a move.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 11, 2013, 11:47:54 PM
Is that guy we've 'out bid liverpool' someone we actually think could happen? I thought martinez was looking at the squad first? Looks like standard paper rumours imo. Hope I'm wrong though, he sounds fancy.



I reckon Jorginho and that PSG guy are both just paper talk. If we do get into a bidding war with Liverpool we will get outbid. They would foolishly probably go past the 20m mark!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 11, 2013, 11:54:55 PM
I reckon Jorginho and that PSG guy are both just paper talk. If we do get into a bidding war with Liverpool we will get outbid. They would foolishly probably go past the 20m mark!

maybe we're just having a laugh and making them waste money?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 12, 2013, 12:00:22 AM
maybe we're just having a laugh and making them waste money?

Haha love it!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on July 12, 2013, 12:01:51 AM
maybe we're just having a laugh and making them waste money?
But they do such a good job on their own!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Ross on July 12, 2013, 12:07:39 AM
But they do such a good job on their own!

I heard they got into a bidding war for that young Spanish lad they signed the other week with their reserve team
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Amata on July 12, 2013, 12:32:51 AM
The Moses loan would be a superb bit of business imo as the reported £8mill fee it would cost to get him could be used to strengthen other area's and we have a quality young player this season (who will want to push for a WC place) free and will then have first choice on him next summer.  Provided he plays a lot of football and does well, he will probably want to sign for us permanently.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on July 12, 2013, 12:34:06 AM
I don't know how much he's gone for but I see Southampton have signed Wanyama. Wouod have been a good fit in our CM?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Gash on July 12, 2013, 12:43:40 AM
I don't know how much he's gone for but I see Southampton have signed Wanyama. Wouod have been a good fit in our CM?

£12.5m according to the BBC. Huge money for someone who had a couple of decent games against Barca but seemed missing in some other Champions League games,  and looked good in the SPL. Must an SPL record sale that?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Gash on July 12, 2013, 12:44:43 AM
Actually, that doesn't sound unlike Fellaini in Belgium.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 12, 2013, 12:45:46 AM
Wanyama too big a risk at that price, not that I would ever grumble with signing a player for 12mil!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 12, 2013, 12:49:46 AM
We'll aim for Jorginho but end up with Jarginho..
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Danny on July 12, 2013, 01:33:20 AM
Fourth Official replied "Who?" when asked about Jorginho so not sure there is anything in that.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 12, 2013, 02:13:03 AM
Fourth Official replied "Who?" when asked about Jorginho so not sure there is anything in that.

I'm sure he's not the all seeing eye!

He won't know about everything. Same as LidCaB
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 12, 2013, 02:16:17 AM
Fourth Official gets his info from The Ram.

Ram's heard nothing as yet.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Silas on July 12, 2013, 02:17:21 AM
Jorginho has a crap wiki page, I'm out
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 12, 2013, 02:17:39 AM
I'm sure he's not the all seeing eye!

He won't know about everything. Same as LidCaB

He is very reliable like, infact both are.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Danny on July 12, 2013, 02:18:14 AM
I'm sure he's not the all seeing eye!

He won't know about everything. Same as LidCaB

True but you'd think with him being so on the ball with the rest of the transfers he'd at least have heard of this guy.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 12, 2013, 02:20:01 AM
He is very reliable like, infact both are.

I don't doubt their reliability. But as I said, they won't know everything.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on July 12, 2013, 03:52:48 PM
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/arsenal-improve-on-30million-offer-to-land-liverpool-badboy-luis-suarez-8702907.html (http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/arsenal-improve-on-30million-offer-to-land-liverpool-badboy-luis-suarez-8702907.html)

Buried in the above article about Suarez - there's a bit that says Arsenal want 2 strikers and will only move for Felli if they have enough money left out a pot of £70m.

It also says interest from City and Chelsea has cooled and while there is an offer from Zenit, Felli doesn't want to play in Russia.

It finishes by saying he's happy to play under Martínez - which I think indicates he wants a year a a CM which would firm up interest in him from more CL teams.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: montanatoffeefan on July 12, 2013, 04:01:34 PM
We'll aim for Jorginho but end up with Jarginho..

Just as long as it's not Vandermeydinho.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 12, 2013, 04:19:01 PM
Sick of hearing about Suarez already and the season is ages away. The press hound him, and deservedly so in most cases, yet continue to give him the back page of their rags.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: SpankRock on July 12, 2013, 07:26:37 PM
Probably a load of shite but yes please!!!

http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/130712/juventus-demand-everton-pay-%C2%A312m-striker-201516? (http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/130712/juventus-demand-everton-pay-%C2%A312m-striker-201516?)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: SpankRock on July 12, 2013, 07:29:24 PM
A bad translation of the media set (Italian) report:

Quote
12:02 - Juve sells in England. More. After Giaccherini, which was sold to Sunderland, the Bianconeri are looking for buyers for tips in output: Quagliarella and Matri. For the first is almost done with the Norwich: the two companies have reached an agreement on the basis of 8/9 milioni with l ' attacker will gain 2.5 million per season. More difficult, however, the tratttativa with Everton for Matri. Juve The first demand of the ice cream toffees: 14 million.
Does not facilitate the talks the demand for employment of the player: EUR 3 million per season, 20% more than they earn now in black and white. The parties are still far away, but the speeches are always open. Everton are doing an interesting market: the manager Roberto Martinez, who replaced Moyes passed to United, he obtains a promising young Spanish Deolofeu, right fielder arrived on loan from Barcelona.
Lets see if Quagliarella goes to Norwich too, more widely reported....
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Risky on July 12, 2013, 07:33:47 PM
The quag is far too good for norwich!

Not convinced that matri would be a good signing if the report is true. He's not prolific even when he's been playing for juve with all tje chances he gets there.

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Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 12, 2013, 07:35:31 PM
Ice Cream Toffees??

Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on July 12, 2013, 07:35:42 PM
The quag is far too good for norwich!

Not convinced that matri would be a good signing if the report is true. He's not prolific even when he's been playing for juve with all tje chances he gets there.

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Yeah he'd have to be used pretty specifically as a focal point - therefore I wouldn't want to be paying decent money for that.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 12, 2013, 07:47:57 PM
Talksport ran a similar story in 2010, saying we, and West Ham, were in for him when he was at Cagliari, describing him as a contract rebel.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: ForzaItalia on July 12, 2013, 07:58:03 PM
Don't want Matri, would happily have Quagliarella though! Norwich? Wtf?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 12, 2013, 08:01:00 PM
Heard a few Fellaini/Baines rumours today.

Ranging from absurd (moyes paying £40m for the both of them) to the quite believable (Arsenal have £70 to spend, want 2 strikers and will only come in for Fellaini with whatever change they have left) to the hopeful (Arsenal dropped all interest in Fellaini.

Coupled with the fact we have dropped our interest in Moses, do you all reckon that the negative reports coming our of Arsenal may be true?
Now our most sellable asset isn't going anywhere our transfer targets have changed?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: hannu on July 12, 2013, 08:04:37 PM
Heard a few Fellaini/Baines rumours today.

Ranging from absurd (moyes paying £40m for the both of them) to the quite believable (Arsenal have £70 to spend, want 2 strikers and will only come in for Fellaini with whatever change they have left) to the hopeful (Arsenal dropped all interest in Fellaini.

Coupled with the fact we have dropped our interest in Moses, do you all reckon that the negative reports coming our of Arsenal may be true?
Now our most sellable asset isn't going anywhere our transfer targets have changed?


wont be much change out of £70
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 12, 2013, 08:12:19 PM
My mates a big manc and he told me that 40m Baines and fellaini story yday.

Was told start of summer once arsenal signed a striker not two that then they would go for fellaini
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on July 12, 2013, 10:57:20 PM
French website saying Diamé is "on the verge" of joining Everton: http://www.francefootball.fr/news/Diame-vers-everton/385386 (http://www.francefootball.fr/news/Diame-vers-everton/385386)

If it's for the rumoured £3.5M release fee, sign him up!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Lincs Toffee on July 12, 2013, 11:01:46 PM
Cant understand what it means when it says it could weaken Fellaini.... but if true then would be a very good signing and for that price too.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blue slug on July 12, 2013, 11:15:38 PM
Great signing for £3.5m. You dont get many good centre mids for that price. If we could just add a creative attacking mid aswell then we will be looking good me thinks
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: di_guyo on July 12, 2013, 11:48:20 PM
don't want quag or matri. don't think either are good enough.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on July 16, 2013, 07:06:24 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2365091/Everton-transfer-latest-Guilherme-Siqueira-close-Goodison-Park-switch.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2365091/Everton-transfer-latest-Guilherme-Siqueira-close-Goodison-Park-switch.html)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Makis on July 16, 2013, 08:42:59 PM
Eh...

http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/05/manchester-united-turn-to-guilherme-siqueira-as-leighton-baines-bid-stalls-3870735/ (http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/05/manchester-united-turn-to-guilherme-siqueira-as-leighton-baines-bid-stalls-3870735/)

So if Moyes can't get Baines he will sign Siqueira. If he does, we will sign him.

Clear as day.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blue slug on July 16, 2013, 09:40:47 PM
don't want quag or matri. don't think either are good enough.

Would you have had that Giacherini (sp) who has just gone to sunderland from juventus. A good winger from what i have seen which is a limited amount
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 16, 2013, 11:28:05 PM
No offence to Sequira but, i'd rather keep Baines. But you all knew that anyway.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: American Evertonian on July 17, 2013, 04:47:05 AM
don't want quag or matri. don't think either are good enough.

Disagree with you about Quag. Watched him a good bit over the last few years. Scores some great goals and most seem to come at times Juve really need them  as no one else was capable of creating (largely due to their inconsistent striker woes).

As for Matri....had great potential but never seems to be able to put it all together.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on July 17, 2013, 04:49:08 AM
What's happening on the Diame front?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 17, 2013, 05:01:09 AM
What's happening on the Diame front?

I get the feeling he hasn't really got a 3.5mil release clause
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 17, 2013, 05:02:48 AM
What's happening on the Diame front?

Think they're trying to overthrow the president.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: billbones80 on July 17, 2013, 06:54:20 AM
I have a feeling Baines and Fellaini will be off( I don't want them to go but just being realistic) let's start looking for the replacement especially in midfield now rather than scrabbling around when the activation on Felli's contract inevitably happens...
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jamokachi on July 17, 2013, 07:03:39 AM
I'll get onto it right now.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Ross on July 17, 2013, 12:45:42 PM
What's happening on the Diame front?

I can't see from here but I did hear loads of shouting and screaming, not sure if I should call the police
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Eddie on July 17, 2013, 09:57:19 PM
@SkySportsNews: Manchester United chief executive Ed Woodward leaves club's tour of Australia to carry out urgent transfer business #SSN

Wonder if this has anything to do with one of our players?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blue slug on July 17, 2013, 10:05:31 PM
Hopefully to do with Rooney transfer mate
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 17, 2013, 10:18:25 PM
I'll get onto it right now.

Any updates mate?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blob on July 17, 2013, 10:39:26 PM
Hopefully to do with Rooney transfer mate

ssn say it's incoming, so get ready to duck and cover your ears
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 17, 2013, 10:41:39 PM
Fabregas.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on July 17, 2013, 10:50:57 PM
Will take him a while to get home so wouldn't expect anything today.

If course we can all speculate on our players based on appearances (or lack of) tonight!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: charlatan on July 17, 2013, 11:00:27 PM
I've just seen Cristiano Ronaldo at a burger van in skem
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Trowel on July 17, 2013, 11:28:22 PM
If anyone's visited a decent website listing reliable ITK news recently, you'll remember that there was a suggestion yesterday that United have signed Garay. We'll see.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Eddie on July 18, 2013, 01:43:38 AM
ssn say it's incoming, so get ready to duck and cover your ears

Hmmmmm no baines tonight....
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Ross on July 18, 2013, 01:46:18 AM
I've just seen Cristiano Ronaldo at a burger van in skem

That's Ronaldo McDonaldo
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Makis on July 18, 2013, 02:17:19 AM
Hmmmmm no baines tonight....
He's got a lookalike then: https://twitter.com/ALANMYERS1/status/357579302184820737/photo/1
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Thornton_19 on July 18, 2013, 02:29:14 AM
That's Ronaldo McDonaldo

That like was a sympathy like.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Eddie on July 18, 2013, 02:43:05 AM
He's got a lookalike then: https://twitter.com/ALANMYERS1/status/357579302184820737/photo/1

That's a cardboard cutout mate.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Makis on July 18, 2013, 02:48:18 AM
That's a cardboard cutout mate.
Damn, now the cutout is on the pitch.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 18, 2013, 10:54:53 AM
ssn say it's incoming, so get ready to duck and cover your ears

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/gareth-bale-transfer-manchester-united-2060737#ixzz2ZLMGOjPz (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/gareth-bale-transfer-manchester-united-2060737#ixzz2ZLMGOjPz)

*copied from the Beeb's Gossip column.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 19, 2013, 05:08:52 AM

 Fourth Official tweeted earlier that Tom Ince is on Roberto's radar.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Simon Paul on July 19, 2013, 05:11:55 AM
Fourth Official tweeted earlier that Tom Ince is on Roberto's radar.

hopefully just a blip
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 19, 2013, 05:12:21 AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/gareth-bale-transfer-manchester-united-2060737#ixzz2ZLMGOjPz (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/gareth-bale-transfer-manchester-united-2060737#ixzz2ZLMGOjPz)

*copied from the Beeb's Gossip column.

Hope they get him and he flops.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on July 19, 2013, 05:39:08 AM
According to the star (I know), we've bid £13.5 for McCarthy.

A lot of money but would love to see him here.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 19, 2013, 05:49:26 AM
According to the star (I know), we've bid £13.5 for McCarthy.

A lot of money but would love to see him here.

 I agree, that is a hell of a lot of money.

 McCarthy said;  "Roberto Martinez is a tactical genius", when Wigan Athletic beat Manchester City in the FA Cup Final.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Ross on July 19, 2013, 06:04:17 AM
I agree, that is a hell of a lot of money.

 McCarthy said;  "Roberto Martinez is a tactical genius", when Wigan Athletic beat Manchester City in the FA Cup Final.

Worryingly the difference between being a genius or madman is very slim. 

If supposedly he beat City in the Cup final through his genius tactics that's great,  however if he pays £13m for McCarthy....
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blob on July 19, 2013, 06:04:57 AM
According to the star (I know), we've bid £13.5 for McCarthy.

A lot of money but would love to see him here.

yeah, full story -

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/327410/Everton-launch-final-bid-for-Wigan-s-James-McCarthy? (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/327410/Everton-launch-final-bid-for-Wigan-s-James-McCarthy?)

messi on loan next....
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Bigjmill on July 19, 2013, 06:17:48 AM
dont see the need while we have a barkley to mold into that same position. I think this is just fellis replacement before his price goes up.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blob on July 19, 2013, 06:23:21 AM
dont see the need while we have a barkley to mold into that same position. I think this is just fellis replacement before his price goes up.

if there's any truth at all in the story - on a more serious note - you'd definitely have to think that fellaini or baines, or both, will be on the way out.

i'd struggle to see that as good business for the club, but shit happens.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 19, 2013, 06:35:35 AM
Worryingly the difference between being a genius or madman is very slim. 

If supposedly he beat City in the Cup final through his genius tactics that's great,  however if he pays £13m for McCarthy....

 I think you'd have to agree with Blob, that the sale of Fellaini has to be a conduit for us to have that kind of McCarthy money and, for Roberto to have the confidence that that amount (£13m) would be money well spent means a reciprocation of each other's belief in each other.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 19, 2013, 06:41:40 AM
To be fair, when Moyes was manager, McCarthy was a name branded about as a replacement for Fellaini.

But I don't want anymore from Wigan.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 19, 2013, 06:59:01 AM
To be fair, when Moyes was manager, McCarthy was a name branded about as a replacement for Fellaini.

But I don't want anymore from Wigan.

 But the big difference is that Martinez is now our manager. The reason I say this is that Manchester-based chat is building that Moyes is struggling to attract wanted players. As an example, many manure fans can't figure out how they never got Thiago - apparently, it was considered cast-iron, when Ferguson was still manager, that Thiago was joining Utd in the summer (now).
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: American Evertonian on July 19, 2013, 08:46:25 AM
According to the star (I know), we've bid £13.5 for McCarthy.

A lot of money but would love to see him here.

The obligatory YouTube vid... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCxji7TyAQU#at=141 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCxji7TyAQU#at=141)


A lot of good sideways and backwards passing
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: christiffa25 on July 19, 2013, 01:56:49 PM
I just feel with 13M of funds you can make a statement signing. McCarthy just stinks of a joe Allen Liverpool type signing.

Gibson is a better player IMO and cost under a million. Now obviously you don't find many like that but they are out there. Honda for example will be 5M or under, we got mirallas for 5M.

The search needs to be wider than Wigan. And IMO IF we were to settle on McCarthy he should be NO more than 8M. No one seems to be beating down doors for his signature!


Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Makis on July 19, 2013, 02:04:53 PM
Gibson is a better player IMO and cost under a million. Now obviously you don't find many like that but they are out there. Honda for example will be 5M or under, we got mirallas for 5M.
The search needs to be wider than Wigan. And IMO IF we were to settle on McCarthy he should be NO more than 8M. No one seems to be beating down doors for his signature!
Gibson seems to have trouble with his fitness. Someone suggested that's why ManU let him go so cheaply.

Honda seems destined to AC Milan, what are you going to do about that? His contract is up in January, that's why is so cheap. Normally he'd be close to 20 million (euros).

McCarthy has been already linked to Spurs and Arsenal this summer. I haven't followed him but based on that video he seems to have good technique and passing skills and ok physically. So if his positional sense is anything resembling useful he would seem to be a good deep-laying midfielder. The sort Fellaini wants to play.

But yeah, 12+ million still seems excessive.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blue slug on July 19, 2013, 02:06:04 PM
There is no way that McCarthy is worth £13m and RM would be mad to splash that sort of cash on him. He is no better than Fer from what ive seen of both and he went for under £5m. When you have the kind of small funds and squad we do we could in theory of got Diame in for £3.5m and Fer for £5m thats two good CM's for £8m less than McCarthy.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blue slug on July 19, 2013, 02:06:47 PM
Just to correct myself i mean £5m less than McCarthy
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: christiffa25 on July 19, 2013, 02:17:49 PM
Gibson seems to have trouble with his fitness. Someone suggested that's why ManU let him go so cheaply.

Honda seems destined to AC Milan, what are you going to do about that? His contract is up in January, that's why is so cheap. Normally he'd be close to 20 million (euros).

McCarthy has been already linked to Spurs and Arsenal this summer. I haven't followed him but based on that video he seems to have good technique and passing skills and ok physically. So if his positional sense is anything resembling useful he would seem to be a good deep-laying midfielder. The sort Fellaini wants to play.

But yeah, 12+ million still seems excessive.

They were just quick examples of players mate, I'm no football scout to reel off a list of suitable players who are not on there way to Milan etc. Spurs and Arsenal have had no real links to him other than the odd mention in the paper.

As said my problem is the reported price. Obviously all hyperthetical but you could get 2 midfielders of equal if not better quality than McCarthy for that money from the "global market"
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Makis on July 19, 2013, 02:18:55 PM
You are basically just quessing. If it was that easy to buy class players to the Premier League with that amount of money, every club would do it.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Ross on July 19, 2013, 02:43:31 PM
I think you'd have to agree with Blob, that the sale of Fellaini has to be a conduit for us to have that kind of McCarthy money and, for Roberto to have the confidence that that amount (£13m) would be money well spent means a reciprocation of each other's belief in each other.

The thing is Les when Martinez was appointed we got a soundbite that he would be searching for talent on a world wide level and I began to think of new recruits coming in cheaply from South America and the likes. Not a constant stream of players from south Lancashire, and now a very over priced one at that.

The three players he's signed so far I can understand, they've added depth and competition into the squad. The idea of adding McCarthy, and at such a high fee, shows very little imagination and it would indicate that Martinez needs a security blanket.

Maybe I'm being naive here, it's just I was under the impression we'd gone from a dower cautious approach to a brave new visionary.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on July 19, 2013, 02:53:46 PM
Although McCarthy sounds expensive at £13.5m, I think it's negated somewhat by the lack of risk. The lads talented and knows the Prem. He wouldn't even have to move house, he'd slot in perfectly.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: christiffa25 on July 19, 2013, 02:58:47 PM
You are basically just quessing. If it was that easy to buy class players to the Premier League with that amount of money, every club would do it.

I'm not guessing mate. I give names you say unrealistic targets, I give no names you say I'm guessing....
De Guzman (loan)
Fer (4M)
Arteta (2M us) - 10M arse
Gibson and numerous others we'v signed previously
Countiniho 10M
Diame 3.5M

Just quickly off top of my head. For 13M you can buy 2 players of very good standard (which I'd class McCarthy in) or 1 top midfielder (which I wouldn't class McCarthy as)

The key is broadening your horizon's past Wigan ffs!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 19, 2013, 03:19:26 PM
Ironically, as much as I moan about us slowly morphing into Wigan, I'd actually sign McCarthy for anything up to about 7m....

He's better than Gibson.

This is the sort of player we should be signing now. Players better than the ones in our current starting 11. We've enough squad fillers now.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Makis on July 19, 2013, 03:22:50 PM
You have to look at how many of those deals you see every season in PL and contrast to the fact there are 20 clubs trying to do it.

Moyes is one of the best managers to find bargains.

As for your suggestions, Fer hasn't played a single game in the PL yet. Why aren't there a queue outside Diame's front door if he's such  a great player at such a low price? What's his baggage? Arteta was bought ten years ago, you could actually sign promising Championship players for couple of million back then. Gibson I commented already. And if De Guzman fits your argument, we already signed a kid on loan.

I think part of this issue is that Martinez is changing the whole playing philosophy. He has a good squad at his disposal so I suspect he is making these signings to help the transformation. McCarthy is the lynchpin that looked to make things tick at Wigan so he would naturally help change the style.

As for prices, remember we paid 6 million for Baines, who couldn't even get into the team for a year. Fellaini wasn't an automatic starter and cost 15 million. Both were great signings in hindsight but by your logic too expensive (there were cheaper players available who could've done the same job as they did initially).
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: KingdingalingNL on July 19, 2013, 03:34:33 PM
I'm not guessing mate. I give names you say unrealistic targets, I give no names you say I'm guessing....
De Guzman (loan)
Fer (4M)
Arteta (2M us) - 10M arse
Gibson and numerous others we'v signed previously
Countiniho 10M
Diame 3.5M

Just quickly off top of my head. For 13M you can buy 2 players of very good standard (which I'd class McCarthy in) or 1 top midfielder (which I wouldn't class McCarthy as)

The key is broadening your horizon's past Wigan ffs!

Why does everybody go on about 3.5m for Diame?? This was a clause he had in the last window which expired or West Ham took out with a pay rise. If he was still 3.5m don't you think he would of been one of the first players to move in this window?

The only crap that states this is a Twitter link and then the French site that just quoted the twitter link. I could be wrong if so can someone please post the link to where this is stated and not some unknown site or twitter link. So posting that he would cost 3.5m to prove a point doesn't count as it is not the real value. All the other players you named are risks and also players who at a stage where on the decline ( Arteta when he moved to us and Couthinho at inter)

And 10m for Arteta to Arsenal would of been a lot more if he was 22 and not turning 30 when he left us.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Makis on July 19, 2013, 03:42:36 PM
And 10m for Arteta to Arsenal would of been a lot more if he was 22 and not turning 30 when he left us.
And let's remember Everton were desperate to sell to get some cash.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: di_guyo on July 19, 2013, 03:53:49 PM
Well he's British for a start, so that drives his price up.

Secondly, he's an awful lot better than Gibson, whoever brought that up originally shame on you!

13 is a bit steep, but also anyone mentioning figures like 5 or 7 is living in the wrong decade.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Les Trebilcock on July 19, 2013, 04:06:37 PM
The thing is Les when Martinez was appointed we got a soundbite that he would be searching for talent on a world wide level and I began to think of new recruits coming in cheaply from South America and the likes. Not a constant stream of players from south Lancashire, and now a very over priced one at that.

The three players he's signed so far I can understand, they've added depth and competition into the squad. The idea of adding McCarthy, and at such a high fee, shows very little imagination and it would indicate that Martinez needs a security blanket.

Maybe I'm being naive here, it's just I was under the impression we'd gone from a dower cautious approach to a brave new visionary.


 Sam, I couldn't agree more.

 I think we are all aware that we could do with a 'perpetual motion' (grass coverer, tracker, harasser, decent passer, combative) central midfielder, to play alongside Gibson - and for Roberto to get another Wiganer would smack of 'looking no further than the North West'.

 I, like you, hope Roberto's next signing has more of a ...Wow! How did Martinez find him.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Makis on July 19, 2013, 04:13:14 PM
That Barca kid wasn't like that?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 19, 2013, 04:22:55 PM

13 is a bit steep, but also anyone mentioning figures like 5 or 7 is living in the wrong decade.

Have prices changed that much since 2009?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Makis on July 19, 2013, 04:50:23 PM
Yes, and the new TV deal means every seller is expecting extra.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Danny on July 19, 2013, 05:03:44 PM
Well he's British for a start, so that drives his price up.

Secondly, he's an awful lot better than Gibson, whoever brought that up originally shame on you!

13 is a bit steep, but also anyone mentioning figures like 5 or 7 is living in the wrong decade.

5 or 7 would be a fair price for a team thats just been relegated, I wouldn't want us paying £13 million for an alright central midfielder who was playing for Fulham for example.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: ally2 on July 19, 2013, 05:06:59 PM
If McCarthy was Spanish, everyone would be creamin'

The 'no more Wigan players' viewpoint is daft. Each player should be judged on merit and merit alone. That's ignoring he was one of, if not THE, best player for them. Having said that, English clubs don't even need to scour the bargain basement anymore. Look at Sunderland.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: whirlwind82 on July 19, 2013, 05:12:07 PM
If McCarthy was Spanish, everyone would be creamin'

The 'no more Wigan players' viewpoint is daft. Each player should be judged on merit and merit alone. That's ignoring he was one of, if not THE, best player for them. Having said that, English clubs don't even need to scour the bargain basement anymore. Look at Sunderland.

Of course its not daft. If we sign another Wigan player we have more than a third of a team plus the manager that got relegated last year!! Yeah I know the argument that they were the better players and we need squad fillers but enough is enough. How is it daft to expect more of a club that finished 6th last season?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 19, 2013, 05:15:45 PM
Of course its not daft. If we sign another Wigan player we have more than a third of a team plus the manager that got relegated last year!!

Not forgetting 5 or 6 of the backroom. Staff.....
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 19, 2013, 05:15:56 PM
I do think McCarthy is a very good player to be honest.  Will still have resale value even if he doesn't turn into superstar with us and he is ready to go straight into the starting lineup, whereas Junior, Lundstram and possibly still Barkley are not.

I'd still say striker should be our priority though.  Kone, Anichebe, Jelavic, Vellios isn't a strong enough striker selection to get to where we want to be imo
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Makis on July 19, 2013, 05:18:31 PM
I'd still say striker should be our priority though.  Kone, Anichebe, Jelavic, Vellios isn't a strong enough striker selection to get to where we want to be imo
The Barca kid is also a striker.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 19, 2013, 05:44:21 PM
The Barca kid is also a striker.

He is also younger than Barkley.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: christiffa25 on July 19, 2013, 06:00:17 PM
Ironically, as much as I moan about us slowly morphing into Wigan, I'd actually sign McCarthy for anything up to about 7m....

He's better than Gibson.

This is the sort of player we should be signing now. Players better than the ones in our current starting 11. We've enough squad fillers now.

Ooooo controversial....

I'd say your opinion that McCarthy is better than Gibson is just that...your opinion, certainly not fact.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Eddie on July 19, 2013, 06:03:21 PM
I think Gibson is the only player in our team who can pass it properly.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blueski on July 19, 2013, 06:07:07 PM
He is also younger than Barkley.
We will see him in the lineup I'm sure; doubt he would have been sent here if there weren't some assurances from Martinez on him getting a chance to feature for the 1st team. Surely a player of this calibre wasn't sent to play in our reserves.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 19, 2013, 06:39:42 PM
He'll play for sure, but I feel he'll be used as a sub mostly.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: ally2 on July 19, 2013, 06:56:08 PM
Of course its not daft. If we sign another Wigan player we have more than a third of a team plus the manager that got relegated last year!! Yeah I know the argument that they were the better players and we need squad fillers but enough is enough. How is it daft to expect more of a club that finished 6th last season?

Right - so bringing in their best player is stupid because will turn into Wigan?  You would be right if we had already bought their best players and were slowly buying up their lesser players. But we haven't. Are you really saying that we shouldn't sign one of their best players because we have already signed some of their lesser players?  That is absurd.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GrantyBoy78 on July 19, 2013, 07:19:02 PM
Rumoured that Wigan want £20m for him and Spurs are willing to pay it. Stupid money but teams are flush with the tv money and eager to spend it.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 19, 2013, 08:28:33 PM
Let Spurs waste that money in him if true. Looks like Utd are trying to waste 60 million on Bale.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Eddie on July 19, 2013, 08:30:44 PM
Let Spurs waste that money in him if true. Looks like Utd are trying to waste 60 million on Bale.

Signing Bale would secure another title, no doubt about it.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on July 19, 2013, 08:31:43 PM
Signing Bale would secure another title, no doubt about it.

disagree, but that's a discussion for another thread.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 19, 2013, 08:35:14 PM
Wouldent mind seeing what James Milners status at City is. Think he could do a good job alongside Fellaini breaking forward. Can also do a very good job out wide.

I seem to be the only person in the world who thinks he's a good player tho.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 19, 2013, 08:38:43 PM
I liked him when he was at Villa, the step up to City was too great though. He could do a job for us I think.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 19, 2013, 08:40:06 PM
Wouldent mind seeing what James Milners status at City is. Think he could do a good job alongside Fellaini breaking forward. Can also do a very good job out wide.

I seem to be the only person in the world who thinks he's a good player tho.

Milner would be a good signing for us I think as long as he didnt cost loads. Any issues I have with him are from an england fan perspective!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Eddie on July 19, 2013, 08:40:35 PM
I think milners a good player.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on July 19, 2013, 08:43:59 PM
Wouldent mind seeing what James Milners status at City is. Think he could do a good job alongside Fellaini breaking forward. Can also do a very good job out wide.

I seem to be the only person in the world who thinks he's a good player tho.

I would agree with that. Wouldn't mind that Rodwell guy either.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Silas on July 19, 2013, 08:44:06 PM
I think milners a good player.

Milner's a steady Eddie, would have been a perfect Moyes signing, not so sure for Martinez
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blueToffee on July 19, 2013, 08:47:35 PM
Milner is a good player. I'd be surprised if there weren't one or two decent players from Man City still to leave this summer.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blue slug on July 19, 2013, 08:47:57 PM
Got admit Ram milner is okay but fee and wages would be pretty high i would of though
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blueToffee on July 19, 2013, 08:49:09 PM
I would agree with that. Wouldn't mind that Rodwell guy either.

Have we really missed Rodwell? Until he shows he has got over his injuries it'd be craziness to spend any significant sum on him.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 19, 2013, 08:53:43 PM
Is right the box of.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on July 19, 2013, 08:59:05 PM
Have we really missed Rodwell? Until he shows he has got over his injuries it'd be craziness to spend any significant sum on him.
.

Probably haven't missed him but I believe he will be injury free this year. Could probably land him for 5M. Would be a nice little  7M off city.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 19, 2013, 08:59:52 PM
Swerve Rodwell off, not even that good.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 19, 2013, 09:03:55 PM
Signing Bale would secure another title, no doubt about it.
I agree. He's a genuine game changer. The sort of player that can single handedly drag you out the shit as he has done for spurs.

He would make Utd a real contender fir the champs league as well.

Anyway as mentioned its really a discussion for another thread.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 19, 2013, 09:06:03 PM
I'd rather have Rodwell than eternal chugger Milner.

Rodwell is a class footballer. Just needs to stay injury free to fully develop all that potential.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 19, 2013, 09:07:36 PM
I agree. He's a genuine game changer. The sort of player that can single handedly drag you out the shit as he has done for spurs.

He would make Utd a real contender fir the champs league as well.

Anyway as mentioned its really a discussion for another thread.

Think it depends on what the other teams around them do this summer. At present, my favorites for the title would be Chelsea. Arsenal could be in with a shout if they spend big and well. City and Utds managers are relatively unknown at this level of competition for different reasons.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on July 19, 2013, 09:35:30 PM
Think it depends on what the other teams around them do this summer. At present, my favorites for the title would be Chelsea. Arsenal could be in with a shout if they spend big and well. City and Utds managers are relatively unknown at this level of competition for different reasons.

The top 4 all have questions. Manchesters City and United are under new management. City is loading up on attacking players, yes, but could see some of their squad leave to pursue first team opportunities. They seem a little light at the back as well. United have the Rooney cloud hanging over them, and need a top midfielder at least. Plus, if they buy Ronaldo/Bale, that leaves (likely) two unhappy wingers in Nani and Ashley Young. Chelsea have all the attacking midfielders you could want, but may need another striker to complement Lukaku and Torres/Ba (if they stay). They may run into problems with the English squad player quota if they aren't carfeul, too. Arsenal have issues up front and in goal. They're going to end up light on attacking players once people actually leave.

Personally, United are still favorites in my mind until we see how the final squads look and see how the first few games turn out. Really, though, any of those 4 could take it, and in truth run away with it if circumstances break right.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Royal Blue Jersey on July 19, 2013, 11:57:47 PM
I'd rather have Rodwell than eternal chugger Milner.

Rodwell is a class footballer. Just needs to stay injury free to fully develop all that potential.
Roswell barely ever did anything of note in almost 100 appearances or so for us. Milner far better
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 20, 2013, 12:07:35 AM
Cue 3 pages of shit Alien puns.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 20, 2013, 12:52:56 AM
Roswell barely ever did anything of note in almost 100 appearances or so for us. Milner far better

Far better? Nope. Milner is a pony.

If he stays fit Rodwell will become twice the player Milner is.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: AidyEFC9 on July 20, 2013, 01:21:53 AM
Gibson seems to have trouble with his fitness. Someone suggested that's why ManU let him go so cheaply.

Honda seems destined to AC Milan, what are you going to do about that? His contract is up in January, that's why is so cheap. Normally he'd be close to 20 million (euros).

McCarthy has been already linked to Spurs and Arsenal this summer. I haven't followed him but based on that video he seems to have good technique and passing skills and ok physically. So if his positional sense is anything resembling useful he would seem to be a good deep-laying midfielder. The sort Fellaini wants to play.

But yeah, 12+ million still seems excessive.


Nothing to do with the fact he only had months left on his deal and wasn't willing to stay and be on the bench or in the reserves then?.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: AidyEFC9 on July 20, 2013, 01:25:35 AM
Milner is a good player. I'd be surprised if there weren't one or two decent players from Man City still to leave this summer.


Milner is a good player, yet you think McCarthy isn't?. Strange!.

I'd have McCarthy all day long, he's a really good midfielder, box to box, gets stuck in and can play. He's a lot better than some give credit for.

I remember most Evertonians saying Gibbo was shite, we don't want him, I bet there not saying that now, he's a very important player for us!.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Royal Blue Jersey on July 20, 2013, 01:40:29 AM
Cue 3 pages of shit Alien puns.

Mistake of replying on my iTouch without paying better attention: auto-correct!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Trowel on July 20, 2013, 04:04:19 AM
Shirts for the new boys in the club shop - Deulofeu spelt wrong, and Kone's name in scouse  lolol

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPkK0unCAAEe7zr.jpg)

https://twitter.com/Efcroloufc/status/358329546329686016/photo/1
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 20, 2013, 04:07:00 AM
Shirts for the new boys in the club shop - Deulofeu spelt wrong, and Kone's name in scouse  lolol

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPkK0unCAAEe7zr.jpg)

https://twitter.com/Efcroloufc/status/358329546329686016/photo/1

Damn. They're injured already. No hands and no heads.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Ong-Timus Prime on July 20, 2013, 05:08:34 AM
why are the prem badges all over the place on those shirts?
are they supposed to be above the white bands or on them?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Eddie on July 20, 2013, 05:11:17 AM
why are the prem badges all over the place on those shirts?
are they supposed to be above the white bands or on them?


Probably for the same reason Deulofeu is spelt wrong.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 20, 2013, 05:36:41 AM
Cant fucking get anything right can we.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Danny on July 20, 2013, 06:54:16 AM
why are the prem badges all over the place on those shirts?
are they supposed to be above the white bands or on them?


Easy way to use up some of the misprints rather than writting them off.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 20, 2013, 07:06:39 AM
Easy way to use up some of the misprints rather than writting them off.

Did you mean to do that?

It's ok though, because schools teach it's more important to be creative in writing, than to have accurate spelling and grammar.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Danny on July 20, 2013, 07:11:49 AM
Did you mean to do that?

It's ok though, because schools teach it's more important to be creative in writing, than to have accurate spelling and grammar.

No I didn't unfortunately, just shoddy spelling on my part.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Brownie on July 20, 2013, 01:51:06 PM
Did you mean to do that?

It's ok though, because schools teach it's more important to be creative in writing, than to have accurate spelling and grammar.

And that drives me fucking nuts
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Mayor Farnum on July 20, 2013, 03:17:01 PM
Kone. A?  Are we planning on signing his brother as well?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Sir Stealth on July 20, 2013, 04:12:42 PM
Kone. A?  Are we planning on signing his brother as well?

Strongest indication yet that he's gonna be first choice striker

'Anichebe.B', 'Jelavic.C' and 'Vellios.D' are also available
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blob on July 20, 2013, 04:36:44 PM
No I didn't unfortunately, just shoddy spelling on my part.

damn! i would have cooled you if you meant it :)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: goodtouchforabigman on July 20, 2013, 05:07:56 PM
Do you think many people will buy any of the new shirts with that big daft mess of a badge??
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Silas on July 20, 2013, 05:17:55 PM
Do you think many people will buy any of the new shirts with that big daft mess of a badge??

Yes, I think for all the moaning when the season comes round people will bite the bullet and just get it.  I won't but I think the majority of match goers will.  None match goers, probably not so much.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 20, 2013, 05:20:28 PM
Strongest indication yet that he's gonna be first choice striker

'Anichebe.B', 'Jelavic.C' and 'Vellios.D' are also available

We'll also have Plan A, Plan B and so on available too.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 20, 2013, 05:43:50 PM
Kone. A?  Are we planning on signing his brother as well?

It's a bit like the two brothers that play in Scotland (can't remember the club)...

A. Trialist and B.Trialist!!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Alanvideo on July 20, 2013, 08:14:40 PM
We'll also have Plan A, Plan B and so on available too.
........No chance . It was well documented at the time of Destination Kirkby that Everton have no plan B. :snigger:
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Eddie on July 20, 2013, 09:14:03 PM
Do you think many people will buy any of the new shirts with that big daft mess of a badge??

People will but nowhere near as much as last seasons shirt. I was in the club shop last week looking for some sort of training shirt (there wasn't any), seen a navy training sweatshirt I liked and would have bought if it wasn't for that badge.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: goodtouchforabigman on July 20, 2013, 09:30:44 PM
Most people I've spoken to have said they won't go near it, but then again they're tight arses who always wait for the kits to drop in price just before the end of the season. I think it looks really bad...really, really bad.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Grand Master C on July 20, 2013, 09:49:31 PM
Do you think many people will buy any of the new shirts with that big daft mess of a badge??

I think a combination of the badge and the bloody awful striped sleeves might hit sales, but I am not sure how much sales ever fluctuate. A decent percentage will be people who buy the shirt (or are bought the shirt) every year, regardless of quality.

Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: phillyt on July 20, 2013, 11:25:25 PM
I think a combination of the badge and the bloody awful striped sleeves might hit sales, but I am not sure how much sales ever fluctuate. A decent percentage will be people who by the shirt (or are bought the shirt) every year, regardless of quality.

I used to do that but at 50 quid a shot I'm not shelling out. Was going to get this years away and 3rd kits if they have any supersize ones left.  Hopefully we can fuck Nike off and go back lcs or even underarmour spurs kits are great this year.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: steve81 on July 21, 2013, 12:46:58 AM
would anyone consider an alternative to the real one as they dont like the badge but would still like to get the shirt for the sake of it i have found a cheaper one cough

http://www.soccerscorpion.se/everton-home-jersey-13/14.html (http://www.soccerscorpion.se/everton-home-jersey-13/14.html)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Lapeno on July 21, 2013, 01:52:23 AM
would anyone consider an alternative to the real one as they dont like the badge but would still like to get the shirt for the sake of it i have found a cheaper one cough

http://www.soccerscorpion.se/everton-home-jersey-13/14.html (http://www.soccerscorpion.se/everton-home-jersey-13/14.html)

I am amazed that no one has started manufacturing iron on Everton badges that you could put on a shirt like that. Given the hostility towards that badge, I'm sure you could make a few quid on an exercise like that
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Mick 1995 on July 21, 2013, 05:03:35 AM
Id prefer to give my money to the club as opposed to get a blag one, avoid them getting money and then complaining about how the board are shit and dont generate any money.

i like the badge and will be buying my first everton top in a long while if the away one is as nice as the mock ups looked
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Confucius on July 21, 2013, 06:21:32 AM
Id prefer to give my money to the club as opposed to get a blag one, avoid them getting money and then complaining about how the board are shit and dont generate any money.

i like the badge and will be buying my first everton top in a long while if the away one is as nice as the mock ups looked

I think I will get 2 kits, the away and the the 3rd. Will also be buying PJ's and tons of baby gear etc. The badge is really nice.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: School of Science on July 21, 2013, 07:40:46 AM
Id prefer to give my money to the club as opposed to get a blag one, avoid them getting money and then complaining about how the board are shit and dont generate any money.

i like the badge and will be buying my first everton top in a long while if the away one is as nice as the mock ups looked

Nice thought but pointless really mate as your money will only go to Kitbag anyway. Everton get paid a certain amount of money each year off Kitbag and Kitbag get the money off all the kits that are sold. In other words like most teams our kit sales are outsourced.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Polledreng on July 21, 2013, 11:57:09 AM
Nice thought but pointless really mate as your money will only go to Kitbag anyway. Everton get paid a certain amount of money each year off Kitbag and Kitbag get the money off all the kits that are sold. In other words like most teams our kit sales are outsourced.
don't think kitbag are as stupid as that. I'm pretty sure the amount we get from Kitbag will relate to the numbers of shirts sold. That's the way you normally do this kind of business. Of course just like the grazy amounts flying around when we are linked to players we will never know the exact contract
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: christiffa25 on July 21, 2013, 12:54:59 PM
I don't understand why people wouldn't buy the shirt because of the badge....

Yes it's shit, yes it never should of been made like that, but the board have apologised and said it will only be seen this season before being replaced.

If you don't buy it because you don't like the kit in general and you make the decision on buying every year based on that....Well obviously fair doo's

To not buy it, when you usually do every year, just out of principle of a messed up badge....Is pretty petty IMO.

Suport your club and buy it as unusually do. Or don't if unusually don't just don't blame the badge for not buying.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Toddacelli on July 21, 2013, 01:30:10 PM
Shirts for the new boys in the club shop - Deulofeu spelt wrong, and Kone's name in scouse  lolol

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPkK0unCAAEe7zr.jpg)

https://twitter.com/Efcroloufc/status/358329546329686016/photo/1

Kone.A

First shirt I've seen with an echo built in!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Toddacelli on July 21, 2013, 01:41:52 PM
Suport your club and buy it as unusually do. Or don't if unusually don't just don't blame the badge for not buying.

But the reason I am not buying the shirt IS the badge, Chris.
Not so much that it is shit though, more because it takes a shit on us, our heritage and who we are.
Do you want me to lie and make up another reason?

Back to the thread-

Anyone ever heard of a lad called N'zogbia?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: christiffa25 on July 21, 2013, 02:15:49 PM
But the reason I am not buying the shirt IS the badge, Chris.
Not so much that it is shit though, more because it takes a shit on us, our heritage and who we are.
Do you want me to lie and make up another reason?

Back to the thread-

Anyone ever heard of a lad called N'zogbia?

Well that's your choice obviously, but to me that just sounds petty and pathetic. No one says you have to like the badge, the club have admitted there mistake and are going to change it....Different strokes for different folks I suppose, I don't like it, and no doubt I'll winge when looking at it most of the season, but it certainly won't stop me buying the top because I'm so offended by it....I'm not! It's shit...but gonna get changed....

Now if our owners decided to change us from blue to red....
A refusal to buy the shirt would be forthcoming!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Toddacelli on July 21, 2013, 03:03:08 PM
Well that's your choice obviously, but to me that just sounds petty and pathetic. No one says you have to like the badge, the club have admitted there mistake and are going to change it....Different strokes for different folks I suppose, I don't like it, and no doubt I'll winge when looking at it most of the season, but it certainly won't stop me buying the top because I'm so offended by it....I'm not! It's shit...but gonna get changed....

Now if our owners decided to change us from blue to red....
A refusal to buy the shirt would be forthcoming!

And that would be your personal choice and I would not judge or criticise you for it.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Cassius on July 21, 2013, 03:19:52 PM
I don't understand why people wouldn't buy the shirt because of the badge....

Yes it's shit, yes it never should of been made like that, but the board have apologised and said it will only be seen this season before being replaced.

If you don't buy it because you don't like the kit in general and you make the decision on buying every year based on that....Well obviously fair doo's

To not buy it, when you usually do every year, just out of principle of a messed up badge....Is pretty petty IMO.

Suport your club and buy it as unusually do. Or don't if unusually don't just don't blame the badge for not buying.


I bet you it won't...

...unless shirt and merch sales are piss poor, then Kitbag and Nike will put pressure on the club to change the badge (I.e. tell them), and both have more clout than fans in this matter.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Silas on July 21, 2013, 03:41:19 PM
I don't like the look of it with the badge so won't be wearing it, should I be expected to pay 50 quid for something I don't like?  I wouldn't do that for any other piece of clothing? 

I can support the club by purchasing a retro shirt I actually like, I believe many people are doing the same.

This is all dreadfully off topic by the way.  Could do with it's own thread really.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: dekko on July 21, 2013, 06:06:55 PM
http://www.insidefutbol.com/2013/07/21/everton-submit-e1m-bid-for-young-french-defender/92714/ (http://www.insidefutbol.com/2013/07/21/everton-submit-e1m-bid-for-young-french-defender/92714/)


Probably that's why the Kone A. shirt. 
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: steve81 on July 21, 2013, 06:12:31 PM
http://www.insidefutbol.com/2013/07/21/everton-submit-e1m-bid-for-young-french-defender/92714/ (http://www.insidefutbol.com/2013/07/21/everton-submit-e1m-bid-for-young-french-defender/92714/)


Probably that's why the Kone A. shirt. 
http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Le-manceau-kone-a-everton/387344 (http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Le-manceau-kone-a-everton/387344)
Auyteur 23 games last season with L2 Le Mans, Mory Kone could leave the club. Reportedly, the 19 year old central defender has been the subject of an offer of a million from Everton.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blob on July 21, 2013, 06:21:01 PM
http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Le-manceau-kone-a-everton/387344 (http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Le-manceau-kone-a-everton/387344)
Auyteur 23 games last season with L2 Le Mans, Mory Kone could leave the club. Reportedly, the 19 year old central defender has been the subject of an offer of a million from Everton.

this could get confusing.

any midfielders/goalkeepers called kone?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Redartin on July 21, 2013, 06:32:15 PM
Auyteur 23 games last season with L2 Le Mans, Mory Kone could leave the club. Reportedly, the 19 year old central defender has been the subject of an offer of a million from Everton.

23 games, conceding 35 goals. Yet another player from a relegated club.

http://uk.soccerway.com/players/mory-kone/193379/ (http://uk.soccerway.com/players/mory-kone/193379/)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Redartin on July 21, 2013, 06:39:52 PM
this could get confusing.

any midfielders/goalkeepers called kone?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Kon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Kon)é

There is this guy.

Imagine listening a match on the radio - Kone clears to Kone who plays a one two with Kone who knocks it into Kone.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: 74Blue on July 21, 2013, 08:13:42 PM
Arouna Kone had the exact same name on his shirt at Wigan last season - Kone.A
As far as I'm aware, Wigan didn't have another Kone in their squad, so I would assume that this is something that the player has asked for, rather than a necessity to avoid confusion.
Perhaps, like Rodrigo liked Rodrigol on his shirt, or Javier Hernandez likes Chicharito on his, maybe Kone likes having his initial on there too!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Verm on July 21, 2013, 10:45:33 PM
I remember the last time we spent £1m on a highly rated 19 year old from a French lower league side...
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 21, 2013, 11:00:42 PM
I remember the last time we spent £1m on a highly rated 19 year old from a French lower league side...

Was he really highly rated?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: plumber on July 21, 2013, 11:08:47 PM
Arouna Kone had the exact same name on his shirt at Wigan last season - Kone.A
As far as I'm aware, Wigan didn't have another Kone in their squad, so I would assume that this is something that the player has asked for, rather than a necessity to avoid confusion.
Perhaps, like Rodrigo liked Rodrigol on his shirt, or Javier Hernandez likes Chicharito on his, maybe Kone likes having his initial on there too!

And Drenthe was the only one Drenthe at Everton also.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTQGQihZXcG16xY6-5RjBEnDAJLkOcx8meRg8ySzB0UG6oYYxrT)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: brap2 on July 21, 2013, 11:09:56 PM
I miss Royston
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: plumber on July 21, 2013, 11:12:10 PM
I miss Royston

You mean Royston Rickie I guess?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Verm on July 22, 2013, 12:18:08 AM
Was he really highly rated?

I remember reading similar comments in articles on him.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Alanvideo on July 22, 2013, 01:32:16 AM
You mean Royston Rickie I guess?
.........There's always Royston Vasey
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on July 22, 2013, 01:50:28 AM
Do we need a young centre back?

Jagielka, Distin, Heitinga, Alcaraz, Duffy are already on the books in that position. I'm not convinced Heitinga will be leaving either.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: brap2 on July 22, 2013, 04:03:24 AM
Do we need a young centre back?

Jagielka, Distin, Heitinga, Alcaraz, Duffy are already on the books in that position. I'm not convinced Heitinga will be leaving either.

Heitinga is off surely, I don't know if duffys got the stuff to make it and Alcaraz and distin both the wrong side of 30.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: di_guyo on July 22, 2013, 12:59:07 PM
Was he really highly rated?

Yes
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 22, 2013, 08:24:04 PM
http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/bundesliga/1307/News/hamburger-sv-paul-scharner-pocht-auf-seine-chance-fc-everton-wigan-athletic-thorsten-fink.html (http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/bundesliga/1307/News/hamburger-sv-paul-scharner-pocht-auf-seine-chance-fc-everton-wigan-athletic-thorsten-fink.html)

Just seen this. Does he say we offered him a contract?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on July 22, 2013, 08:27:38 PM
http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/bundesliga/1307/News/hamburger-sv-paul-scharner-pocht-auf-seine-chance-fc-everton-wigan-athletic-thorsten-fink.html (http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/bundesliga/1307/News/hamburger-sv-paul-scharner-pocht-auf-seine-chance-fc-everton-wigan-athletic-thorsten-fink.html)

Just seen this. Does he say we offered him a contract?

bing translator:

"I would earn the double in England. In may, after the Cup triumph with Wigan, the Club Everton offered a three-year contract me." "But I had the announcement at this time, in Hamburg, go for all at zero," so the Scharner in the second round to the eventual FA Cup winner which pushes his hamstring in the calf, where he currently has, as a psychosomatic reaction to the perceived unfair treatment by the HSV.


We didn't have Martinez is May though so?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 22, 2013, 08:28:58 PM
bing translator:

"I would earn the double in England. In may, after the Cup triumph with Wigan, the Club Everton offered a three-year contract me." "But I had the announcement at this time, in Hamburg, go for all at zero," so the Scharner in the second round to the eventual FA Cup winner which pushes his hamstring in the calf, where he currently has, as a psychosomatic reaction to the perceived unfair treatment by the HSV.


We didn't have Martinez is May though so?
horrible thought
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: charlatan on July 22, 2013, 08:42:27 PM
horrible thought

Would save him scoring his annual goal against us ;)
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 22, 2013, 09:24:38 PM
Probably signed him to stop fucking scoring against us.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: The Analog Kid on July 22, 2013, 09:33:50 PM
He actually didn't core against us this year in 3 games.

He did get twatted in the face with the ball in front of the Gwladdy though. At some velocity I might add.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Trowel on July 23, 2013, 02:55:50 AM
Daily Star reckon we're looking at Scott Sinclair as a cheaper alternative to Moses.

Imagine if the Israelites had gone for Scott Sinclair.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: christiffa25 on July 23, 2013, 03:20:15 PM
Daily Star reckon we're looking at Scott Sinclair as a cheaper alternative to Moses.

Imagine if the Israelites had gone for Scott Sinclair.

He's another that's strongest posistion is playing from the left. Having pienaar and mirallas (strongest from left) plus the young barca kid, really don't think we need him. We need a player who's strongest posistion is from the right.....Moses or Donovan for me!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: di_guyo on July 23, 2013, 03:33:44 PM
He's another that's strongest posistion is playing from the left. Having pienaar and mirallas (strongest from left) plus the young barca kid, really don't think we need him. We need a player who's strongest posistion is from the right.....Moses or Donovan for me!

know he played there quite a bit previously, but i don't think mirallas looked too clever on the left when he played there for us...would rather have him central or right.

i'd prefer moses to sinclair though, agree there.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blue slug on July 23, 2013, 04:20:19 PM
Dont rate sinclair at all, moses is a much better player and can play left, right and centre positions. Do be honest would still prefer to see a creatice CM come in before another wide player
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Fellainis Hairdresser on July 23, 2013, 05:05:02 PM
at least bob is looking at pacey young wingers who are actually wingers
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: brap2 on July 23, 2013, 06:50:54 PM
know he played there quite a bit previously, but i don't think mirallas looked too clever on the left when he played there for us...would rather have him central or right.

i'd prefer moses to sinclair though, agree there.

tore liverpool apart from the left didn't he?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: TheRam on July 23, 2013, 06:53:12 PM
He's had his best games from the left hasn't he?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on July 23, 2013, 07:00:29 PM
I'd say he's had good games in all 3 positions behind the front man.

But you'd think that naturally coming in from the left would be his best position.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: di_guyo on July 23, 2013, 07:24:04 PM
tore liverpool apart from the left didn't he?

Did in that one actually, apologies forgot about that. Scored most of his goals from the right/centre though from memory.

I could be totally making this up.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: GLewis on July 23, 2013, 07:31:06 PM
Did in that one actually, apologies forgot about that. Scored most of his goals from the right/centre though from memory.

I could be totally making this up.

He probably has but I'd be surprised if that's not down to the amount of time spent on the right in comparison to the left.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: billbones80 on July 24, 2013, 06:23:29 AM
With his release clause running out at the end of the month Fellaini has been linked with a move to Man United, in that horrible rag the currant bun!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 24, 2013, 10:14:38 AM
So when does this clause run out? Middle of August, or is it now end of July?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: christiffa25 on July 24, 2013, 11:12:59 AM
know he played there quite a bit previously, but i don't think mirallas looked too clever on the left when he played there for us...would rather have him central or right.

i'd prefer moses to sinclair though, agree there.

Not sure what you were watching, had his best 45 mins in an Everton shirt on the left against the shite before they crocked him! He's been most threatening from the left, and where he scored all his goals from for his previous club. IMO RW is his weakest posistion.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MmmblueBernard on July 24, 2013, 05:25:30 PM
We made a 10m bid for Hector Moreno. Apparently

http://www.cfandeportes.com/futbol/extranjero/item/57014-everton-pretende-fichar-a-héctor-moreno
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 24, 2013, 05:29:37 PM
Thought he played for Wigan too for a moment when I read the last sentence.

Do we need a defender though?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 24, 2013, 05:30:05 PM
The newspaper AS reported that the Everton defender intends to sign Espanyol's Mexican, Hector Moreno.The offer of the Toffees is 10 million euros, higher than the 5.8 mde he made a few days ago and rejected Swansea Espanyol.Roberto Martinez, manager of Everton, who recently replaced David Moyes in charge, the one who wants to Moreno on your computer.The Spanish newspaper said Joan Collet, president of the Parakeets, recognized a formal offer for the defender emerged from the bottom of Pumas.In case you come to realize the operation, Javier Aguirre receive a blow, considering his compatriot as a pillar in the scheme of Espanyol.If Moreno is transferred to the Premier League, Everton America would have a center back, as have previously been contracted Paraguay's Antolin Alcaraz, Roberto Martinez who is known as both agreed to Wigan.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 24, 2013, 05:50:36 PM
CRYSTAL PALACE and Everton are competing for Austrian striker Philipp Hosiner.

The £4million-rated ace, 24, hit 32 goals last season as Austria Vienna won the title.

Palace scouts watched Hosiner score in Saturday’s 2-0 win over Admira, while Everton boss Roberto Martinez will pounce if Nikica Jelavic leaves.

Hosiner said: “My English will be good enough if I move.”
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Alanvideo on July 24, 2013, 07:40:35 PM
The newspaper AS reported that..........a formal offer for the defender emerged from the bottom of Pumas.
................only one thing emerges from the bottom of a puma. :o
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blue slug on July 24, 2013, 07:56:28 PM
Literally spat coffee over my desk when i read that Alanvideo lol
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: MexicanToffee on July 24, 2013, 11:18:21 PM
The newspaper AS reported that the Everton defender intends to sign Espanyol's Mexican, Hector Moreno.The offer of the Toffees is 10 million euros, higher than the 5.8 mde he made a few days ago and rejected Swansea Espanyol.Roberto Martinez, manager of Everton, who recently replaced David Moyes in charge, the one who wants to Moreno on your computer.The Spanish newspaper said Joan Collet, president of the Parakeets, recognized a formal offer for the defender emerged from the bottom of Pumas.In case you come to realize the operation, Javier Aguirre receive a blow, considering his compatriot as a pillar in the scheme of Espanyol.If Moreno is transferred to the Premier League, Everton America would have a center back, as have previously been contracted Paraguay's Antolin Alcaraz, Roberto Martinez who is known as both agreed to Wigan.

No news about Moreno in the press over here yet, but I wouldn't get too excited by Moreno. He is not the next Rafa Marquez.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Cozzie on July 24, 2013, 11:24:01 PM
Didn't Man United want Hector Moreno a while back?

Or am I getting confused with someone else?

Dont know much about him, but he has won 46 caps at the age of 25, maybe doesn't seem half bad.

Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Outworlder47 on July 24, 2013, 11:53:07 PM
Moreno's not bad, but at present we have 4 CBs plus Duffy. Unless it's a young, cheap player, we're set at the position right now.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Cozzie on July 25, 2013, 12:21:53 AM
Something tells me Heitinga may be off though.

This is probably Distins final season as he is 36 this season.

Jags and Alcaraz are both the wrong side of 30

Duffy IMHO is not good enough.

Wouldn't mind getting a young defender in for the future.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Danny on July 25, 2013, 01:09:53 AM
The newspaper AS reported that the Everton defender intends to sign Espanyol's Mexican, Hector Moreno.The offer of the Toffees is 10 million euros, higher than the 5.8 mde he made a few days ago and rejected Swansea Espanyol.Roberto Martinez, manager of Everton, who recently replaced David Moyes in charge, the one who wants to Moreno on your computer.The Spanish newspaper said Joan Collet, president of the Parakeets, recognized a formal offer for the defender emerged from the bottom of Pumas.In case you come to realize the operation, Javier Aguirre receive a blow, considering his compatriot as a pillar in the scheme of Espanyol.If Moreno is transferred to the Premier League, Everton America would have a center back, as have previously been contracted Paraguay's Antolin Alcaraz, Roberto Martinez who is known as both agreed to Wigan.

He wants to what on my computer?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Ong-Timus Prime on July 25, 2013, 02:34:58 AM
I don't want him anywhere near my computer
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Shogun on July 25, 2013, 02:46:54 AM
Something tells me Heitinga may be off though.

This is probably Distins final season as he is 36 this season.

Jags and Alcaraz are both the wrong side of 30

Duffy IMHO is not good enough.

Wouldn't mind getting a young defender in for the future.

Isn't alcaraz 30 exactly?

Plenty of time for a CB.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Eddie on July 25, 2013, 02:51:37 AM
Richard Gough was nearly 40 when he played for us and was one of the best CB's we've had in the PL era. Age only comes into it if you're turning shit...like Neville.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 25, 2013, 03:07:40 AM
Richard Gough was nearly 40 when he played for us and was one of the best CB's we've had in the PL era. Age only comes into it if you're turning shit...like Neville.
looking at that pic of kone in the other thread he could be the oldest player to ever play for Everton
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: dekko on July 25, 2013, 03:13:00 AM


Jags and Alcaraz are both the wrong side of 30



If Jags and Alcaraz (who are both 30) are the wrong side of 30, what is being the right side of 30?
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Alanvideo on July 25, 2013, 03:28:11 AM
Richard Gough was nearly 40 when he played for us and was one of the best CB's we've had in the PL era. Age only comes into it if you're turning shit...like Neville.............Richard Gough always reminded me of that knight in Indiana Jones who had been waiting for centuries for Harrison Ford to turn up. He was held together with sellotape and jubilee clips but a hell of a player.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Polledreng on July 25, 2013, 03:33:29 AM
looking at that pic of kone in the other thread he could be the oldest player to ever play for Everton
Yakubu ??
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Jimmywhack on July 25, 2013, 03:34:51 AM
Yakubu ??
older
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: BlackWatch on July 25, 2013, 04:58:32 AM
Would save him scoring his annual goal against us ;)
Playing in Germany also solves that problem without us paying the nut jobs wages
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: BlackWatch on July 25, 2013, 05:00:31 AM
He's another that's strongest posistion is playing from the left. Having pienaar and mirallas (strongest from left) plus the young barca kid, really don't think we need him. We need a player who's strongest posistion is from the right.....Moses or Donovan for me!

Donovan? That ship has surely sailed
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: School of Science on July 25, 2013, 05:04:06 AM
Donovan? That ship has surely sailed

Sailed ? Sank mate.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: BlackWatch on July 25, 2013, 05:06:16 AM
Moreno's not bad, but at present we have 4 CBs plus Duffy. Unless it's a young, cheap player, we're set at the position right now.
We need a squad for champions league aspirations
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: BlackWatch on July 25, 2013, 05:08:07 AM
Richard Gough was nearly 40 when he played for us and was one of the best CB's we've had in the PL era. Age only comes into it if you're turning shit...like Neville.
Yes and Davie Weir was getting on as well
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Cozzie on July 25, 2013, 05:22:49 AM
Isn't alcaraz 30 exactly?

Plenty of time for a CB.

Yep, center backs can go on longer granted, but still be nice to invest in some future ones.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: billbones80 on July 25, 2013, 06:45:56 AM
We most urgently need a central midfielder or right winger, not a defender.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: the doc on July 25, 2013, 06:57:50 AM
We most urgently need a central midfielder or right winger, not a defender.
Another striker is what we need, Kone looks like Yakubu's older bother and Jelevic could be gone in a few days, we need a striker who can score!!
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: blargins on July 25, 2013, 07:10:32 AM
Yep, center backs can go on longer granted, but still be nice to invest in some future ones.

It makes sense. Goalkeepers can go on the longest, then defenders can go til mid to late 30s, midfielders start getting found out in early 30s and most strikers tend to be over the hill by the time they hit 30.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: Fern on July 25, 2013, 07:20:34 AM
Well that's your choice obviously, but to me that just sounds petty and pathetic. No one says you have to like the badge, the club have admitted there mistake and are going to change it....Different strokes for different folks I suppose, I don't like it, and no doubt I'll winge when looking at it most of the season, but it certainly won't stop me buying the top because I'm so offended by it....I'm not! It's shit...but gonna get changed....

Now if our owners decided to change us from blue to red....
A refusal to buy the shirt would be forthcoming!

Jury's out whether it will get changed. That's what you've heard- dont mean it will happen though.
Title: Re: The Unofficial Transfer Rumours Thread
Post by: billbones80 on July 25, 2013, 07:33:22 AM
Another striker is what we need, Kone looks like Yakubu's older bother and Jelevic could be gone in a few days, we need a striker who can score!!