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Title: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 02, 2013, 11:40:56 PM
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Manchester City v Everton FC
Etihad Stadium (Capacity: 47, 805)
Saturday 5th October 12:45
Premier League Match 7



Manchester City's last 5 matches 13/14:

 Viktoria Plzen 0-3 Manchester City - Champions League (Dzeko, Toure, Aguero)
Manchester City 4-1 Manchester United (Aguero x2, Toure, Nasri)
Manchester City 5-0 Wigan - League Cup(Jovetic x2, Dzeko, Toure, Navas)
Aston Villa 3-2 Manchester City (Toure, Dzeko)
Manchester City v Bayern Munich - Champions League


Everton's last 5 matches 13/14:

Cardiff 0-0 Everton
Everton 1-0 Chelsea (Naismith)
West Ham 2-3 Everton (Baines x2, Lukaku)
Fulham 2-1 Everton - League cup (Naismith)
Everton 3-2 Newcastle (Lukaku x2, Barkley)



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Manchester City

Manchester City go into this match in 6th place with 10 points having picked up 3 victories, 2 defeats and a draw from their opening 6 premier league games. Last time out they lost 3-2 against Aston Villa at Villa Park despite taking the lead on a couple of occasions. This isn't the first time they've been pegged back, losing to Cardiff 3-2 earlier in the season. Although Manchester City are yet to win an away game in the Premier League with Pellegrini, they have a 100% home record with thumping wins over Manchester United and Newcastle along with a 2-0 win over Hull.

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The summer was no different than usual for the blue half of Manchester. They done their business early and expensively replacing Carlos Tevez and Balotelli who had left in January with Negredo and Jovetic amongst many others. The above table excludes the loan signings of Scott Sinclair and of course Gareth Barry.



Everton

Romelu lukaku grabbed the headlines on Monday night as he marked his Goodison bow with 2 goals in what finished a nervy 3-2 victory to Everton after a scintillating first half gave Everton a 3-0 lead at half time. Lukaku has been instrumental in his two premier league appearances for Everton so far scoring the winning goal in both.

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Steven Pienaar could return for the game this weekend after a spell out on the sidelines which may be necessary as Kevin Mirallas appeared to pick up a foot injury against Newcastle which may see him ruled out. Antolin Alcaraz suffered a set back in training and is still a few weeks away from fitness whilst Gareth Barry is ineligible to play against his parent club.




This will be the 173rd meeting between the clubs. Everton drew last year's match at Eastlands 1-1 as Fellaini's goal was levelled out when Tevez converted a spot kick the former gave away.

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 02, 2013, 11:47:48 PM
Me mars being a right slag and refusing to get BT.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Zoolander on October 02, 2013, 11:56:39 PM

Me mars being a right slag and refusing to get BT.
harsh ram dude!
Didn't realise this was on BT - might have to head down the boozer for this one then :)
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 03, 2013, 12:45:02 AM
What's the best result for us tonight?

Bayern Munich to thrash City or a closer more competitive game?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 03, 2013, 12:48:53 AM
What's the best result for us tonight?

Bayern Munich to thrash City or a closer more competitive game?
close tight game that bayern win late on
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 03, 2013, 12:56:28 AM
What's the best result for us tonight?

Bayern Munich to thrash City or a closer more competitive game?

Dont think it really matters.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on October 03, 2013, 01:02:56 AM
What's the best result for us tonight?

Bayern Munich to thrash City or a closer more competitive game?

He rotates the squad quite a lot doesn't he? So it's not like if they're running around like headless chickens it'll probably impact the game much on Saturday...although we can hope. That said, the opposition losing is always better I feel...especially if it's psychologically speaking a bit of a kick in the nuts like a last minute goal to lose the game.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 03, 2013, 01:49:45 AM
Win 2-1.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: GLewis on October 03, 2013, 01:54:09 AM
Does getting fouled for a free kick which is subsequently scored not get you an assist (like Barkley x2 at WHam)?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Gash on October 03, 2013, 01:56:49 AM
Does getting fouled for a free kick which is subsequently scored not get you an assist (like Barkley x2 at WHam)?

Yeah, Barkley got two assists for those.

Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 03, 2013, 02:40:39 AM
Does getting fouled for a free kick which is subsequently scored not get you an assist (like Barkley x2 at WHam)?

I'm not sure, I know they do in fantasy football but not sure if they do properly.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on October 03, 2013, 03:04:13 AM
Getting twatted by Bayern now. We could take advantage of their low confidence, or they could take their frustration out on us on Satdy and leather us.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Eddie on October 03, 2013, 03:06:40 AM
Getting twatted by Bayern now. We could take advantage of their low confidence, or they could take their frustration out on us on Satdy and leather us.

I'd say the latter is more likely. They're looking poor at the back though.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Thornton_19 on October 03, 2013, 03:19:11 AM
I'd say the latter is more likely. They're looking poor at the back though.

They all look fucked mate given the right run around. We should take a high tempo to them early on.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 03, 2013, 03:27:54 AM


"Manchester City have been utterly outclassed - and some of their players have been ruthlessly exposed. Joe Hart has been dreadful, beaten again at his near post for Arjen Robben's goal and Gael Clichy is another having a nightmare. Bayern Munich are a magnificent side but this has been very lame from Manuel Pellegrini's team."

Lukaku rests/bides his time.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Outworlder47 on October 03, 2013, 03:52:51 AM
Great time to hit them with Hart out of form and an uninspiring back line. If Toure is kept under wraps, we may come away from this with points.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on October 03, 2013, 02:25:19 PM

"Manchester City have been utterly outclassed - and some of their players have been ruthlessly exposed. Joe Hart has been dreadful, beaten again at his near post for Arjen Robben's goal and Gael Clichy is another having a nightmare. Bayern Munich are a magnificent side but this has been very lame from Manuel Pellegrini's team."

Lukaku rests/bides his time.

I can picture it now: Friday night, Lukaku, sitting in a big comfy chair, big pair of Sennheiser's on, listening to The Commodores "Easy Like Sunday..."
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blue slug on October 03, 2013, 03:59:43 PM
City were utter shite last night but quite often teams come out next game with a point to prove and turn it on, really hope this is not the case and they play like they did last night cos if they do we should come away with a point at the least
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blargins on October 03, 2013, 05:07:17 PM
Hopefully their confidence is shattered.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blob on October 03, 2013, 05:31:28 PM
our recent history against these is good, and i don't see why it shouldn't continue, particularly this early in the season.

1-2
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Toddacelli on October 03, 2013, 06:40:41 PM
This will be tight and hard fought I think.

Baines will be the difference though. 1-0.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 03, 2013, 08:35:30 PM
I can see Naismith and Osman starting given our injury concerns. It's difficult to see more than a goal from us.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 03, 2013, 08:44:22 PM
I can picture it now: Friday night, Lukaku, sitting in a big comfy chair, big pair of Sennheiser's on, listening to The Commodores "Easy Like Sunday..."

You got it, man. Who let the fuckin dogs out........
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: ncstate4jpc on October 03, 2013, 09:11:06 PM
0-0. Think Lukaku will have a struggle after two top performances, and our D will hold solid. Would love to make it 3 wins in a row, but I'll take a point if offered
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: .Rimbo. on October 03, 2013, 09:37:20 PM
I'll go for a score draw. If it were at Goodison, I would go for a home win. City haven't really started this season.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Jimbo and the Jetset on October 04, 2013, 01:41:47 AM
Great time to hit them with Hart out of form and an uninspiring back line. If Toure is kept under wraps, we may come away from this with points.

Absolutely nailed on that Hart will put in the performance of his life on Saturday - guaranteed :(
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 04, 2013, 01:48:03 AM
This will be a tough one, hopefully we keep up with the strong performances against Man City that we have the last few years.

A point would be a good result in all honesty against a team of their quality away from home.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: stirlingblue on October 04, 2013, 02:30:06 AM
Worried about Toure, I don't see who in our midfield can stop him.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 04, 2013, 02:49:29 AM
Worried about Toure, I don't see who in our midfield can stop him.

I'm not overly convinced there's anyone in the league who can stop him. We should've signed Philip Lahm or Javi Martinez in the summer.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on October 04, 2013, 05:08:52 PM
Worried about Toure, I don't see who in our midfield can stop him.

There's other sides (fans) that have no doubt thought that, yet they've lost 3 or 4 games already.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueski on October 04, 2013, 05:32:26 PM
Worried about Toure, I don't see who in our midfield can stop him.
barkley if played deep

mccarthy's likely to be the one to match up with him though; he's got the energy and workrate to make it a difficult day for him, moreso than ossie anyway
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 04, 2013, 06:03:43 PM
Mc Carthy is really going to have to have a stormer.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: brap2 on October 04, 2013, 06:08:33 PM
Mc Carthy is really going to have to have a stormer.

i believe.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 04, 2013, 06:17:32 PM
i believe.

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueski on October 04, 2013, 07:26:25 PM
if this were moyes it would be 10 or 11 men behind the ball all game

will be interesting to see to what degree martinez gives it a go
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on October 04, 2013, 07:38:00 PM
if this were moyes it would be 10 or 11 men behind the ball all game

will be interesting to see to what degree martinez gives it a go

If it was a Moyes team they'd probably go out and lose 4-1 or something...... Oh, hang about....
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 04, 2013, 07:45:59 PM
if this were moyes it would be 10 or 11 men behind the ball all game

will be interesting to see to what degree martinez gives it a go

If this was Moyes we would probably go and continue our great run against Man City, home AND away
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blue slug on October 04, 2013, 07:46:19 PM
Don't think we can criticise moyes record against city to be fair blueski
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueski on October 04, 2013, 08:27:53 PM
Don't think we can criticise moyes record against city to be fair blueski
I'm not criticising at all, I'd rather see us play 10 behind the ball and get a result

No sarcasm, I am really interested to see how he sets up
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blue slug on October 04, 2013, 09:05:21 PM
i think same starting 11 and strategy as against Chelsea but McCarthy for Barry to be honest blueski, what do you reckon
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 04, 2013, 09:10:23 PM
Would people rather Hart or Pantimillion played?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Outworlder47 on October 04, 2013, 09:34:26 PM
Would people rather Hart or Pantimillion played?

Pantilimon, every time, as he's the inferior player. Hart, though out of form, can still put together amazing games. Pantilimon has played 12 games for City, none in the league, over 2+ seasons. No question for me.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Outworlder47 on October 04, 2013, 09:41:59 PM
As for me, I bet we see Naismith on one wing, particularly with our midfield injuries.

I could see us coming out with a 5-4-1 formation for this, with Heitinga sweeping. If Mirallas and Gibson both miss out:
                            Howard
          Jagielka     Heitinga      Distin
Coleman                                        Baines
                           McCarthy
                Osman             Naismith
                            Barkley
                            Lukaku

Osman and Naismith, despite their limitations, will both track back into wide areas when needed. With Gibson out and Barry ineligible, we don't have many options in the centre. Pienaar and Mirallas both injured would force us to play a bit more narrow, as I doubt Deulofeu is ready for a full 90 with the defensive responsibilities he'd have to pull for Man City away.

I suspect Mirallas makes it, though, perhaps in place of Osman or Heitinga.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 04, 2013, 10:28:44 PM
Pantilimon, every time, as he's the inferior player. Hart, though out of form, can still put together amazing games. Pantilimon has played 12 games for City, none in the league, over 2+ seasons. No question for me.

I had a bit of a mare with his name didn't i haha, I agree with you though.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Outworlder47 on October 04, 2013, 10:58:41 PM
I had a bit of a mare with his name didn't i haha, I agree with you though.

Pantilimon, Pantimillion, Pantylemon...What's the difference, really. He's their Mucha.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: evertonjoe on October 05, 2013, 01:17:13 AM
Pantilimon could devour our players, so I'll opt for Hart.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Jimbo and the Jetset on October 05, 2013, 01:37:21 AM
Pantyliner...What's the difference, really. He's their Mucha.
fixed.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueski on October 05, 2013, 02:00:59 AM
i think same starting 11 and strategy as against Chelsea but McCarthy for Barry to be honest blueski, what do you reckon
yes probably, can't see deloufeu starting in a big away fixture like this but he will will no doubt come on late

assuming gibbos not fit, probably ossie and mccarthy in the middle, but to be honest ossie will have a hard time coping if you ask me

he could drop ossie for heitinga and play 2 banks of 4 and look to score on the break or he could play them straight up and try to possess the ball

for me, this was my biggest criticism of him as a manager at wigan; there were times when it seemed he would persist in trying to possess the ball instead of playing with more negative tactics when in fact negative tactics might have gotten him a result

if mirallas and gibson are indeed out it seems on paper at least like some tactical changes are needed and maybe its not wise to play a passing game in our half
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Thornton_19 on October 05, 2013, 03:41:05 AM
I really think we'll beat these tomorrow!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: hill135 on October 05, 2013, 05:29:04 AM
As for me, I bet we see Naismith on one wing, particularly with our midfield injuries.

I could see us coming out with a 5-4-1 formation for this, with Heitinga sweeping. If Mirallas and Gibson both miss out:
                            Howard
          Jagielka     Heitinga      Distin
Coleman                                        Baines
                           McCarthy
                Osman             Naismith
                            Barkley
                            Lukaku

Osman and Naismith, despite their limitations, will both track back into wide areas when needed. With Gibson out and Barry ineligible, we don't have many options in the centre. Pienaar and Mirallas both injured would force us to play a bit more narrow, as I doubt Deulofeu is ready for a full 90 with the defensive responsibilities he'd have to pull for Man City away.

I suspect Mirallas makes it, though, perhaps in place of Osman or Heitinga.

I think we might see something along the lines of what you've outlined here. Given Pellegrini's preference for 4-4-2 (of some sort), I can see us going 3-5-2. We know Martinez likes this formation, and this is how Wigan lined up in the FA cup final. This would give us a spare man at the back and allow us to outnumber them in midfield. Might be vulnerable on our left flank as Navas gives them some serious width.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 05:43:14 AM
If this was Moyes we would probably go and continue our great run against Man City, home AND away

Let's remember he was coaching against Sparky for a fair few of those (and Mancini - whom I don't rate too highly)
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 05:46:23 AM
I think we might see something along the lines of what you've outlined here. Given Pellegrini's preference for 4-4-2 (of some sort), I can see us going 3-5-2. We know Martinez likes this formation, and this is how Wigan lined up in the FA cup final. This would give us a spare man at the back and allow us to outnumber them in midfield. Might be vulnerable on our left flank as Navas gives them some serious width.

Do you see us using the the line-up Outworlder predicted or something a bit different? Personally I wouldn't mind if we went with....

                              Howard
                    Tina        Jags       Distin
Coleman                                             Baines
                    McCarthy       Osman
                               Barkley
                    Kone                  Lukaku
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 05, 2013, 07:58:00 AM
I think Martinez has the ability to go there and tactically out think Pellegrini. Im expecting a few surprises in how we set up tomorrow.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2013, 09:00:14 AM
Win by 4 goals and we go top temporarily ;D
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 12:45:49 PM
Win by 4 goals and we go top temporarily ;D

I see you sir...Your glass looks half-full
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: oscar on October 05, 2013, 01:33:50 PM
Think stones may play in a back three
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: GLewis on October 05, 2013, 02:15:00 PM
Think stones may play in a back three

If it was a straight decision for a defensive position I'd agree.

However I think if he puts Heitinga in there we can switch between 3-4-3 to 4-1-2-3; 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 pretty seamlessly with just a few tweaks e.g. Heitinga just moving up from the middle of the 3 into a DM role of some description.

We can even do it based on whether we're in/out of posession.

I think the formation of 4-1-2-3 would also allow Osman to drift to the left (when we don't have possession) to help Baines out. With Heitinga as the 1 we wouldn't be exposed though the middle.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: oscar on October 05, 2013, 02:53:39 PM
think with stones we can play all of the above, could also play him at full back and move coleman into midfield were he would give glichy lots of problems.although i prefer him making his runs fro deep
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: DannyR on October 05, 2013, 05:19:24 PM
If we win 3-0, we go top of the leauge!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 05, 2013, 05:32:29 PM
Hopefully awful twitter rumour of the day :

Midfield of Oviedo osman McCarthy naismith

:-[
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 05:47:16 PM
Hopefully awful twitter rumour of the day :

Midfield of Oviedo osman McCarthy naismith

:-[

That's not awful as such. It's a lineup that is setup to grind out a result which considering out absentees is probably a sound tactic.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 05, 2013, 05:49:19 PM
That's not awful as such. It's a lineup that is setup to grind out a result which considering out absentees is probably a sound tactic.
it's not awful no. It's not inspiring either.

We are gonna have to get it up top a bit quicker today and get Barkley around lukaku
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 05:50:20 PM
it's not awful no. It's not inspiring either.

We are gonna have to get it up top a bit quicker today and get Barkley around lukaku

Yeah I can't see us winning the passing today.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2013, 05:51:07 PM
Milner playing ahead of Navas/Jovetic. Lescott in for Nastasic

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVzr27QCAAAHext.jpg)
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 05, 2013, 05:52:31 PM
Mirallas plays
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2013, 05:52:45 PM
Naismith for Barry the only change.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVzr9nxCQAEo-mm.jpg)

Gibson on the bench.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 05:53:50 PM
Need a big game from Mirallas today.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 05, 2013, 05:54:49 PM
Need a big game from Mirallas today.
yeah without doubt. His link up with Barkley and lukaku today will be vital
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2013, 05:56:58 PM
----------------------Howard------------------
----Coleman---Jagielka--Distin---Baines----
--------------McCarthy---Osman-------------
--------Naismith---Barkley---Mirallas--------
--------------------Lukaku--------------------

----------------------Hart---------------------
--Zabaleta--Kompany--Lescott---Clichy-----
------------Fernandinho--Toure---------------
----------Silva-----Aguero----Milner----------
---------------------Negredo-------------------
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Ross on October 05, 2013, 06:00:36 PM
Can we do a sweep stake on when Stevie81 will rock up?

I'm going for 6 minutes in.

Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 05, 2013, 06:01:44 PM
Can we do a sweep stake on when Stevie81 will rock up?

I'm going for 6 minutes in.
a minute after either Howard makes a save or they score
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2013, 06:04:19 PM
Not a lot of width in City's team
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 05, 2013, 06:07:20 PM
Mirallas 26 today, big game from him! Nice bday goal!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 05, 2013, 06:08:52 PM
Feel really relaxed going into this game. Pressure's all on them, we're expected to lose. If we do, as long as we play well and try to win, that'll be fine. And if we get anything, that'll be bloody marvellous. No pressure blues. Let's give it a proper go, and see which City turn up.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 05, 2013, 06:09:50 PM
Would of like to see Delofew start instead of Naismith.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 06:10:01 PM
Not a lot of width in City's team

No but I think Baines will struggle to be involved today with Milner on.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blob on October 05, 2013, 06:17:24 PM
http://firstrownow.eu/watch/212297/1/watch-manchester-city-vs-everton-fc.html (http://firstrownow.eu/watch/212297/1/watch-manchester-city-vs-everton-fc.html)
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 05, 2013, 06:22:08 PM
Opposing managers keep making plans to stop Bainesy marauding down our left and their right, and forget all about Seamus. Long may it continue.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: DannyR on October 05, 2013, 06:28:46 PM
Any streams that'll work on android?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2013, 06:39:31 PM
Any streams that'll work on android?

Try this pal http://www.sportlemon.tv/20131004/vv524ec50dd2a552.02362646-656780.html (http://www.sportlemon.tv/20131004/vv524ec50dd2a552.02362646-656780.html)
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blargins on October 05, 2013, 06:41:15 PM
Nice to be able to see this on tv for a change. Albeit only one half.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Haile GAZrselassie on October 05, 2013, 06:42:08 PM
The commentator has just called it about right. This is going to be one of those games where we find out a lot more about what we can expect from both teams over the course of the season!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 05, 2013, 06:42:31 PM
any english streams lads?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2013, 06:47:45 PM
good start
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 06:49:03 PM
I like my coffee the way I like my Presidents.  Black.

We will see how City likes the pressure.  I am cautiously optimistic.

Very little chance we can get 90+ out of Mirallas, one has to think Kid Barca is on call to be his sub.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: brap2 on October 05, 2013, 06:49:36 PM
trying to find a stream on the work computers. just not  having it though :(
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 05, 2013, 06:49:43 PM
any english streams lads?

http://www.stadium-live.com/Channel2.html (http://www.stadium-live.com/Channel2.html)
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 06:50:44 PM
Pace on the counter is bloody lovely to behold.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 05, 2013, 06:50:52 PM
T-How's beard  :love:
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on October 05, 2013, 06:50:56 PM
(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p718/IvyMariano/Nature%20Scenery/prettystream_zps93cf2aea.jpg) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/IvyMariano/media/Nature%20Scenery/prettystream_zps93cf2aea.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 06:51:07 PM
Too early...I am starting to regret that extra drink at the bar last night
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 06:53:00 PM
Jonathon Moss about to join the list of referees we hate

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blob on October 05, 2013, 06:54:07 PM
Jonathon Moss about to join the list of referees we hate

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yeah. definitely coming over as a picky homer. bastard.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Ross on October 05, 2013, 06:54:13 PM
Lovely turn by Naismith
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 05, 2013, 06:54:14 PM
Lovely turn Naisy lad.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 05, 2013, 06:55:29 PM
Nutjob tv stream on wiziwig is a good one.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: DannyR on October 05, 2013, 06:55:41 PM
Lovely by Naismith
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 05, 2013, 06:56:00 PM
Nutjob tv stream on wiziwig is a good one.

For future reference the nutjob one is always brilliant.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 06:56:37 PM
This week's NBC announcers suck.  They questioned the free kick awarded Naismith, but not the one that almost gifted City a goal.  In the pregame, they didn't talk about City needing a win, but rather "to dominate the game, of which they are certainly capable."

4th place Everton an afterthought FFS.  Can't wait to ruin their morning.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 06:57:15 PM
Lukaku has been poor holding the ball so far
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 05, 2013, 06:57:51 PM
We need to retain the ball better. Missed too many easy balls. Losing too many headers to their small strikers too
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 06:58:16 PM
Milner is doing a great job shutting down Baines thus far.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 06:58:44 PM
Looking the much more comfortable side but not creating as much

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blargins on October 05, 2013, 06:59:03 PM
Last ditch defending there. City are up for this.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 05, 2013, 06:59:11 PM
Hadn't anticipated them going long to Negredo so often. That's causing a few problems.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 06:59:38 PM
When we score, it will be on the counter.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 06:59:40 PM
Great chasing from lukaku

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blargins on October 05, 2013, 07:00:09 PM
How is that a goal kick?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 07:00:34 PM
Great chasing from lukaku

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Was impressed to see him stick with it.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 07:00:49 PM
GET IN!!!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 07:00:51 PM
Get in !!!!

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 07:00:53 PM
The guy's a genius.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 07:01:00 PM
Lukaku is brilliant!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: brap2 on October 05, 2013, 07:01:03 PM
cant get a stream. probably dont have the right plugin. if anyone has any ideas of how to sort it let me know, if not i'll just keep up to date on this thread!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blargins on October 05, 2013, 07:01:08 PM
Lukakuuuuuuu!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 07:01:14 PM
What a great solo goal that is!

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 05, 2013, 07:01:17 PM
Wow, great play by Lukaku but could that be any easier?

Jags and his wonderful long balls :)
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blob on October 05, 2013, 07:01:21 PM
fucking get in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 07:01:26 PM
Lukaku.  Of course.  Brilliant.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: DannyR on October 05, 2013, 07:01:36 PM
LUKAKU you big belgian beast
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 07:02:22 PM
Bugger

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2013, 07:02:22 PM
fucking beautiful that, great ball from Jags? as well.



oh ffs
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 07:02:23 PM
Fuck me that was quick.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blargins on October 05, 2013, 07:02:32 PM
Crap.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 07:02:34 PM
And FFS, just like that.  Weak.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Ross on October 05, 2013, 07:02:44 PM
Fucking bunch of arse
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Gash on October 05, 2013, 07:02:48 PM
Oh bollocks, just when we needed to keep the ball.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 07:02:54 PM
Well that didn't last long
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blob on October 05, 2013, 07:03:00 PM
ffs.............
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: DannyR on October 05, 2013, 07:03:10 PM
Fucks sake
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 07:03:30 PM
Great ball by Yaya there to feed Negredo.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 05, 2013, 07:03:42 PM
Need more from our midfielders there and Coleman just needs to be a twinge more aware.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 07:04:14 PM
Not hanging our heads at all.  Good sign.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 07:05:23 PM
Barkleys hands by his side getting his shirt pulled yet its a free kick against him?

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Gash on October 05, 2013, 07:05:40 PM
3-2, we're gonna win 3-2, we're gonna win 3-2, we're gonna win 3-2. 3-2........................
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2013, 07:05:45 PM
sign of an absolute dog shit referee that.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 07:05:53 PM
Ref's been poor so far.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: fubarruk on October 05, 2013, 07:05:55 PM
Fuck me, Naismith couldn't trap a bag of cement, fuckin useless!!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: april on October 05, 2013, 07:06:11 PM
I just woke up.  I dreamed we won this 3-2 after being 2-1 down. Would you lot take a draw?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 07:06:25 PM
If we were going to lose the lead it would have been nice to let them stew about being behind a little bit longer. At least so Joe Hart could mess with his own head.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 07:06:25 PM
Shit.  So close.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 07:06:33 PM
Great pace from distin

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: The Good Citizen on October 05, 2013, 07:07:06 PM
Joke free kick, officials made about 10 errors already.

Barkley could have gone down twice there too.

Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 07:07:46 PM
I just woke up.  I dreamed we won this 3-2 after being 2-1 down. Would you lot take a draw?

No, the last three weeks have made me greedy.  Plus it's too early for me to think clearly.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: april on October 05, 2013, 07:08:36 PM
In Lukaku terms, that was a goalscoring opportunity Kompany just denied him.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 07:08:50 PM
NBC announcers questioning the officiating...they think CITY is getting screwed.  Fuckwits.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 07:08:51 PM
Ref's been poor so far.

He was out at the pub with me last night. Still has his "beer goggles" on apparently
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 07:08:57 PM
Ref having a mare here

Defo a sending off happening today

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 07:09:24 PM
Ref having a mare here

Defo a sending off happening today

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Probably one of ours as well.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 05, 2013, 07:09:45 PM
Kompany on a yellow is a nice early bonus. That puts us 1.1-1 ahead.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blob on October 05, 2013, 07:10:21 PM
unusual -and great - to see us attacking in such numbers.

shit. gilt-edged for aguero. thank fuck  he missed.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 07:11:05 PM
Inventive free kick that

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 07:11:07 PM
We are flat footed in defence
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 07:11:16 PM
Wonderful set piece play by City....probably deserve to be up on us
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 05, 2013, 07:11:20 PM
That was a let off.

Great set piece from them there though.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: The Good Citizen on October 05, 2013, 07:11:24 PM
Holy shit that should have been a goal. Great free kick in fairness.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Gash on October 05, 2013, 07:11:32 PM
Big let off there.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blargins on October 05, 2013, 07:11:44 PM
Howard had that well covered you twat.

I meant the commentator is a twat not you Gash.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2013, 07:12:22 PM
Don't think we could have done much about that free kick.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 07:12:46 PM
Agreed, think Howard forced that attempt to be targetted wide.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 05, 2013, 07:12:56 PM
God I hate Milner's under-evolved face.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 07:13:33 PM
They play cowardly football, trying to draw free kicks and penalties.  I hate watching that.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 07:14:10 PM
Has Owen ever seen leon osman play?

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 07:14:33 PM
Osman feeding it to Naismith....The dream team is at work boys
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 07:14:47 PM
Don't think I have seen a player as short as Naismith win so many headers.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 07:15:37 PM
Don't think I have seen a player as short as Naismith win so many headers.
He's doing a lot right today

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blargins on October 05, 2013, 07:16:09 PM
Barkley is superb. This is the first time he's really impressed me.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 07:16:19 PM
I am warming rapidly to McCarthy.  Steadying influence, a good balance to our attacking forwards.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 07:16:21 PM
Been watching the whole match but it literally just hit me that Naisy was playing on the L and not the right. I'm a bit surprised him and Kev aren't switched.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Trowel on October 05, 2013, 07:16:51 PM
McCarthy having a good game,  like how he switches play.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 07:17:43 PM
Ffs Mirallas should have stayed on there.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blargins on October 05, 2013, 07:18:08 PM
Someone needs to punch the ref. No way was that a corner, Lukaku gets tripped we get called for offside.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 05, 2013, 07:18:13 PM
No yellow for the foul????

How much money does it take for a ref to throw a game these days?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: The Good Citizen on October 05, 2013, 07:18:15 PM
Not a corner.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2013, 07:18:30 PM
poor from Mirallas there.

Kompany going off is a good thing.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Redartin on October 05, 2013, 07:18:39 PM
Kompany's fucked
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 07:18:46 PM
I thought he DID stay on, but they didn't show a replay so I could be sure (thought the previous offside was weak, but replay showed it was correct call).
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: .Matty on October 05, 2013, 07:19:40 PM
McCarthy has been class so far.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Nicco on October 05, 2013, 07:19:52 PM
Not a corner.
And a yellow for some Shitty player!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Gash on October 05, 2013, 07:20:46 PM
Could be a bonus this with Kompany going off, Nastasic has looked less than impressive this season and Lescott has hardly played.

I can't used to seeing us counter attacking with pace, Mirallas really should have stayed on there though.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 05, 2013, 07:20:54 PM
Nice to see RM presumably giving instructions to The Beast, with Kompany off. Sharp management.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Redartin on October 05, 2013, 07:21:21 PM
Apart from the goal, and a Mirallas header which was off side, we haven't really tested Hart who I think is very vulnerable.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 07:21:47 PM
They are lucky to get Kompany off before he was sent off.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 07:22:59 PM
Going to get tasty in the second half unless the ref gets hold of things

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 07:23:16 PM
If Mirallas picks up his performance we have a real chance
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2013, 07:23:33 PM
replay on the Naismith tackle would be nice.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 05, 2013, 07:24:20 PM
replay on the Naismith tackle would be nice.

No pen for me.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blob on October 05, 2013, 07:24:25 PM
both sides look great going forward. this could be anything.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 07:24:35 PM
replay on the Naismith tackle would be nice.
Just flashed one on NBC and it would have been very harsh on City if a pen was awarded
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2013, 07:24:46 PM
No pen for me.

Nah he left his leg in.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 07:24:47 PM
Barkley's really exciting but he keeps hold of the ball far too long.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 05, 2013, 07:25:04 PM
Listening to Michael Owen speak is akin to listening to finger nails down a chalkboard.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blargins on October 05, 2013, 07:25:14 PM
Gutted I'll miss the second half.

Negredo should have scored there.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 05, 2013, 07:25:21 PM
Another let off.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2013, 07:25:25 PM
Got away with one there.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 07:25:41 PM
We are at least the equal side today.  On the road and fairly short-handed.

It's time to stop acting like CL qualification is some kind of ludicrous fantasy.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 07:25:50 PM
Well Barkley forgets the ball on one possession and Aguero does us the favor on the other end. Sportsmanship at its finest.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Gash on October 05, 2013, 07:25:52 PM
Barkley needs to move the ball quicker at times, twice caught in good positions.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 07:26:45 PM
Big call for a penalty that

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 05, 2013, 07:26:51 PM
That is a penalty, only reason it isn't is because of where Lukaku is on the pitch.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2013, 07:26:53 PM
That's a push ffs
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Ross on October 05, 2013, 07:27:15 PM
Can we sub the ref
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 07:27:15 PM
That was a bit risky on Nastasic there. Extending your arm on a striker in the box can be a bad idea.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: The Good Citizen on October 05, 2013, 07:27:28 PM
This ref would never be brave enough to give that shove in the back in a million years.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 05, 2013, 07:27:33 PM
Listening to Michael Owen speak is akin to listening to finger nails down a chalkboard.

I bet Michael Owen's fingernails down a chalkboard are even more excruciating that a normal person's.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 07:27:43 PM
As stupid a football play as you will ever see.  And City gets away with it.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Redartin on October 05, 2013, 07:27:56 PM
This ref is shite, and the assistants, they have missed so much - for both sides.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on October 05, 2013, 07:28:29 PM
Toure playing that ball in to Aguero all the time, between Jags and Coleman. Need to shut that fucker out.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 07:29:37 PM
Ffs.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 07:29:38 PM
Fuck me
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blargins on October 05, 2013, 07:29:41 PM
Fuck.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on October 05, 2013, 07:29:53 PM
Fucks sake
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 05, 2013, 07:29:59 PM
Fuck.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: The Good Citizen on October 05, 2013, 07:30:01 PM
Arghhhh for fuck sake Coleman. Fuck.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blob on October 05, 2013, 07:30:12 PM
fuck
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 07:30:20 PM
Howard didn't make his mind up there

Started to come then backed off and was in a bad position

Coleman should have battered negredo there though

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 05, 2013, 07:30:48 PM
Tim needs to do better there for me. Only a tiny space that Aguero could've put that.

Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 05, 2013, 07:31:04 PM
Coleman has just completely fucked us there. Hes shown them City cheats. Seriously what an absolutely idiotic cunt. Should be fucking ashamed
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2013, 07:31:41 PM
Should have had a penalty to go 2-1 up then go behind. typical



Fuck off John Moss.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 07:31:49 PM
Pretty sure the announcer came when that goal went in.  I wish it wasn't too early to drink.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 07:32:00 PM
Mirallas has been piss poor today. 
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 07:32:06 PM
We are just trying to give the ball away in the other half. RM has to be livid as the amount of turnovers we have had.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on October 05, 2013, 07:32:14 PM
Coleman has just completely fucked us there. Hes shown them City cheats. Seriously what an absolutely idiotic cunt. Should be fucking ashamed

What did he do wrong?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Nicco on October 05, 2013, 07:32:26 PM
The ref is even getting worse... Which kind of an accomplishment considering how he has so far started the game!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 05, 2013, 07:32:53 PM
Mirallas has been piss poor today.

Barkleys been worse. Hes having an absolute shocker
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 07:32:55 PM
Correction from earlier - I will take that draw now.

Nice defending from Jags.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: The Good Citizen on October 05, 2013, 07:32:59 PM
Brilliant jags. Want half time here.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 05, 2013, 07:33:01 PM
Can easily still get a draw or a win from this. No need to panic as long as we don't concede again before the break.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blargins on October 05, 2013, 07:33:05 PM
What did he do wrong?

That's what I was wondering. The altercation between the two was well before the goal.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: slothzen on October 05, 2013, 07:33:12 PM
Mirallas has been piss poor today. 

Osman and Barkley haven't been too good either.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 05, 2013, 07:33:12 PM
Mirallas has been so wasteful in possession.

Agree that Coleman should have let it go and just moved us forward there. I understand his frustration there though but he has to give Negredo a piece of his mind and keep walking.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 05, 2013, 07:33:42 PM
That's what I was wondering. The altercation between the two was well before the goal.

It kept our defensive line sitting very deep.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 07:34:00 PM
Milner with a disgusting challenge

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 07:34:06 PM
Please don't be injured McCarthy....
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: evertonarntwe on October 05, 2013, 07:34:07 PM
defending for both goals was absolutley terrible
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 07:34:11 PM
Kid Barca for Mirallas.  What other halftime change can/chould we make?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 05, 2013, 07:34:17 PM
What did he do wrong?

He spent a good 2 minutes arguing with Negrado on the edge of our own box leaving us too deep. Hes a stupid cunt. His fault and only his fault that goal
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blob on October 05, 2013, 07:34:20 PM
we've done ok. howard hasn't excactly excelled, again.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 07:34:22 PM
Barkley and Mirallas the weak links today.  City's pace and movement is going to put us under pressure so we need them to keep and play the ball better.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 07:34:44 PM
It kept our defensive line sitting very deep.

It didn't contribute to be honest

Tv commentators saying it did but they're wrong

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 07:35:14 PM
He spent a good 2 minutes arguing with Negrado on the edge of our own box leaving us too deep. Hes a stupid cunt. His fault and only his fault that goal

On whose watch was that 2 minutes?

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 05, 2013, 07:35:22 PM
REEEEEEEFFFFFFFFFFFFFF you weak weak man. Pathetic. Hate moaning about refs, but it's very hard to win against one of the big teams away if the ref has decided what he'd like the result to be before kickoff.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: montanatoffeefan on October 05, 2013, 07:35:27 PM
Too early...I am starting to regret that extra drink at the bar last night

Are you regretting not getting a carry-out six pack from that same bar about now?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Eddie on October 05, 2013, 07:35:29 PM
Officials will be happy with the half time score. Unbelievably biased upto now.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 05, 2013, 07:35:29 PM
Barkley and Mirallas the weak links today.  City's pace and movement is going to put us under pressure so we need them to keep and play the ball better.

Agreed but we were poor defensively at various points throughout the match.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: djws1788 on October 05, 2013, 07:35:50 PM
halsey said the game should have been stopped to due negredo's response and a free kick to Everton, how was Coleman at fault? Negredo dived from minimal contact and then confronted him.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 07:37:26 PM
Agreed but we were poor defensively at various points throughout the match.

Yeah but I think a lot of that is City's movement is just that good.  I would be tempted to take both off second half.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on October 05, 2013, 07:38:17 PM
He spent a good 2 minutes arguing with Negrado on the edge of our own box leaving us too deep. Hes a stupid cunt. His fault and only his fault that goal

That weren't Colemans fault. The ball came to our left with only Aguero there. We still had Distin, Jags and Baines there.

Negredo went down like a fanny- Seamus had every right to have a go at him.

Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: steve81 on October 05, 2013, 07:38:48 PM
Defence is slowly getting to Wigans standards knew it would happen with the Spanish mike walker in charge
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Thornton_19 on October 05, 2013, 07:38:57 PM
Really REALLY need Gibson sitting there in front of our back four just to calm it down and win the ball back for us. We've been comfortable with the ball but without it we just don't press hard enough quite frustrating really.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 07:39:00 PM
Yeah but I think a lot of that is City's movement is just that good.  I would be tempted to take both off second half.

yeah not sure we've been THAT bad, but City's movement has been excellent at times and would have unlocked almost any defence in the world

Deulofeu for Mirallas for me in the second half but not sure who we'd replace Barkley with?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Redartin on October 05, 2013, 07:39:33 PM
He spent a good 2 minutes arguing with Negrado on the edge of our own box leaving us too deep. Hes a stupid cunt. His fault and only his fault that goal

Caught ball watching for the first goal also, let Negredo in behind him. He's just not having a good day at the office and Kolarov is keeping him in check down that side. Not as much action on the Baines side, maybe that will change second half.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 07:39:33 PM
Defence is slowly getting to Wigans standards knew it would happen with the Spanish mike walker in charge

I might answer the calls to ban you, you boring little cretin
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Polledreng on October 05, 2013, 07:39:41 PM
That was a bit risky on Nastasic there. Extending your arm on a striker in the box can be a bad idea.
Not when fucking Moss is the reff.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: jongre123 on October 05, 2013, 07:39:52 PM
That Milner challenge on McCarthy looked to me a clear red, but I guarantee won't be discussed at all .
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 07:39:55 PM
I'm just not sure we have a realistic second attacking option other than Kid Barca (Kone would be a hail mary play, I guess).  Mirallas isn't 100% physically, perhaps Barkley just needs the halftime break to make some mental adjustments.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Tinga on October 05, 2013, 07:39:55 PM
Coleman should have just got on with the game. City are a great side and we've done really well so far. I'd take a draw right now.

On a sidenote I think BT Sport is on another tier to Sky.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Ross on October 05, 2013, 07:39:56 PM
The officials have been the worse I've seen for quite some time. Sme piss poor calls that should see them banned for next week
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 05, 2013, 07:40:01 PM
halsey said the game should have been stopped to due negredo's response and a free kick to Everton, how was Coleman at fault? Negredo dived from minimal contact and then confronted him.

Are you serious?? Its his job to get out when we attack so the whole defence can push up. Instead our attacking full back spent the time it took us to mount a counter attack and for City to recover the ball and start an attack of their own stood on the edge of the box fucking arguing. Even forgetting the goal hes an attacking full back who thought it better to stand there and argue rather than help our attack. Hes behaved like an idiotic cunt
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 07:40:09 PM
yeah not sure we've been THAT bad, but City's movement has been excellent at times and would have unlocked almost any defence in the world

Deulofeu for Mirallas for me in the second half but not sure who we'd replace Barkley with?

Gibson and push Osman forward is the only genuine alternative unless you go 4-4-2.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: ally2 on October 05, 2013, 07:40:20 PM
Our defence just aren't seeing their runs or movement.   It's last ditch stuff and someone has to open their eyes.  Coleman always seems to be giving his man about 10 feet when we're 2 on 2. 

We have got away with it so far.  Should be 3-1 or 4-1.  Baines being shut down but Milner yellow may help.  I think they need to collect themselves and sort it out but we can still get something from this.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: montanatoffeefan on October 05, 2013, 07:40:38 PM
On whose watch was that 2 minutes?

Teste's...and I bet, under the "right" circumstances, Colina, Clattenburg and a few others could see it that way.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 05, 2013, 07:40:42 PM
Too flat footed in defense, not enough quality final third passes in attack. City look far more cohesive where it matters.

Could do a lot better, hopefully this will be our good half coming up!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Cuttyblue on October 05, 2013, 07:40:53 PM
Hmph.  Our midfield is being OVERRUN; one of the few weaknesses of the Martinez system.  This reminds me of our preseason match vs. Real, we look good going forward but if we don't score, they'll run it 80yds the other way EASY and get a shot at Howard.

Barkley and Mirallas have been just awful.  Howard should have saved at least one of theirs.

Naismith and McCarthy doing well.  Lukaku doing what he does.

   
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Gash on October 05, 2013, 07:41:29 PM
Defence is slowly getting to Wigans standards knew it would happen with the Spanish mike walker in charge

BOOM!!

We must be losing, Captain fucking Suicide is on the bridge.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 05, 2013, 07:41:40 PM
Ref is fucking AWFUL!!! How can he get away with it??
Need a change at half time, its just not happening.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 05, 2013, 07:41:51 PM
That weren't Colemans fault. The ball came to our left with only Aguero there. We still had Distin, Jags and Baines there.

Negredo went down like a fanny- Seamus had every right to have a go at him.

Are you serious?? Hes every right to opt out of helping us attack to argue?? Oh. That will teach City. If you dive we'll attack with a player less while we tell you off
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Eddie on October 05, 2013, 07:42:00 PM
It didn't contribute to be honest

Tv commentators saying it did but they're wrong

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Howard pushed him out before we'd lost possession. Defence just switched off again.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 07:42:05 PM
Are you regretting not getting a carry-out six pack from that same bar about now?

After what the ref has done to us I think I need a 12er to erase the pain
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: toffee_scot on October 05, 2013, 07:42:21 PM
Bearing in mind that this is on paper one of the most difficult fixtures, we've done quite well especially trying to get forward but we could have done with a player like Barry for extra defensive protection considering the quality of Negredo and Aguero.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: montanatoffeefan on October 05, 2013, 07:42:28 PM
The officials have been the worse I've seen for quite some time. Sme piss poor calls that should see them banned for next week

As long as the majority of those bad calls continue to go Citeh's way, the officials will be rewarded with another big game next week.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2013, 07:42:34 PM
I'd wish Moss an HT injury but Atkinson is the fourth official.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 05, 2013, 07:42:46 PM
Hmm...I'm not sure I would change too much. I think we've been very effective for the most part. We need to get a bit tighter in the full back positions and on the edge of our own box, but we've given then plenty of problems and might easily have had two pens.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 07:43:31 PM
The officials have been the worse I've seen for quite some time. Sme piss poor calls that should see them banned for next week

Should, yes.  But in the Prem front office, I am sure they will be quite grateful not to have both Mancs in the lower half of the table.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 07:44:35 PM
Not when fucking Moss is the reff.

Touche sir. Touche.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 05, 2013, 07:44:41 PM
Disgraceful refereeing defending & goalkeeping but besides that a cracking game to watch. Missing Barry big time. Come on Barkley lad - its only Citeh.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: steve81 on October 05, 2013, 07:44:59 PM
aguero wasted distin surprised at that not many get past
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: howard1334 on October 05, 2013, 07:45:21 PM
Osman and Barkley haven't been too good either.

Agree with you on Barkley, he has been caught in possession to often, but Osman has done about as well as he can in the holding role.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 05, 2013, 07:45:50 PM
Got to bring Deulofeu on. Barkley has got to play a lot better or make way
Title: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 05, 2013, 07:46:23 PM
Looks from replays like 3 at the back pushed up for offside, and Distin held his position playing city inside.

Lack of communication or cohesion there.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on October 05, 2013, 07:46:24 PM
Great start to the game by us but losing the goal so quick was a real game-changer.

Ossie and Mccarthy are crucial to getting some control again and Barkley needs to move the ball quicker.

COYB !
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blob on October 05, 2013, 07:46:53 PM
aguero wasted distin surprised at that not many get past

???
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Cuttyblue on October 05, 2013, 07:47:25 PM
Got to bring Deulofeu on. Barkley has got to play a lot better or make way

Agreed... but I would replace Mirallas
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: wepull on October 05, 2013, 07:47:43 PM
Game of 2 halves this too. We'll batter them in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on October 05, 2013, 07:47:45 PM
Barkley has held onto the ball a bit too long, but surprised by the amount of people saying he's been shocking. He's also kept things moving in the middle quite well at times. Mirallas has been very sloppy though.

Refs have been poor/weak in front of the home crowd.

Overall I'd say we were lucky not to have conceded a lot more. They've got in some great positions in the box and could've easily had 3 or 4. The defence has been flat footed but also their talent in the attacking third is clearly very good.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2013, 07:48:39 PM
That's a fucking horrendous tackle.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 07:48:47 PM
David James saying Milner tackle not even a booking

Discuss...

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 07:48:49 PM
Game of 2 halves this too. We'll batter them in the 2nd half.

We're due for a good 2nd half performance after N'castle.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 07:49:42 PM
I wouldn't blame Martinez for waiting a while because if Barkley and Mirallas do start playing we are back in this game.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 05, 2013, 07:49:57 PM
Agreed... but I would replace Mirallas

On the 1st half performance Id bring both off if we had 2 decent direct dribblers on the bench. Think Barkley has been the worst of the 2 though. Hes taking a touch when he shouldnt time and time again
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: bluestevie on October 05, 2013, 07:49:58 PM
I might answer the calls to ban you, you boring little cretin

Nah leave the bell end to it Si, he'll soon disappear

Good first half, unlucky to be 2-1 down, the officiating has been shocking. Lukaku is a beast, another great finish and should have had a penalty for a blatant push
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 07:50:06 PM
Barkley just getting criticized because he is being held to a high standard (based on his excellent play to date).  Mirallas clearly needs to be off.

NBC's excellent studio crew talking about Everton, as if today isn't all about City.  Imagine that.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Ross on October 05, 2013, 07:50:15 PM
Milner should have got two yellows one for McCarthy the other for following through on Mirallas, dirty cunt
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Glory on October 05, 2013, 07:50:36 PM
Bearing in mind that this is on paper one of the most difficult fixtures, we've done quite well especially trying to get forward but we could have done with a player like Barry for extra defensive protection considering the quality of Negredo and Aguero.
Your rational and well thought-out posts are not welcome here!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Eddie on October 05, 2013, 07:50:43 PM
David James saying Milner tackle not even a booking

Discuss...

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This is the same bitter Kopite twat who said we'd finish 16th. If he has any credibility to others it'll soon go with gobshite opinions like that.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: keiko on October 05, 2013, 07:50:47 PM
I don't agree that Barkley has been awful. he has made a few mistakes in the final 15 mins of the half though. before that he didn't give the ball away at all, and was attacking and defending well. mirallas must keep onside better from his passes.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: jongre123 on October 05, 2013, 07:50:48 PM
Glad BT showed the tackle again. Looked like the yellow was a good decision.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 05, 2013, 07:52:54 PM

David James saying Milner tackle not even a booking

Discuss...

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David James is a moron.

The end.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 07:53:19 PM
And now bt sport claim coleman cost half a million quid

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 07:53:22 PM
I've counted at least three blatant City dives.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 07:53:50 PM
And now bt sport claim coleman cost half a million quid

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I have heard anything from a free to a million on commentaries.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on October 05, 2013, 07:53:53 PM
Silva, two cynical challenges - should have got a yellow by now.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2013, 07:54:16 PM
that's a yellow ffs, he should have been off by now
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on October 05, 2013, 07:54:43 PM
It's a bit sloppy this
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 07:54:59 PM
Once upon a time

David James is a moron.

The end.

Fixed it for you
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2013, 07:55:26 PM
Need a sub Roberto
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 07:55:43 PM
Not a promising first 5 minutes at all.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blob on October 05, 2013, 07:56:10 PM
the way things are going we'll be lucky to get anything out of this. keeping the faith, but looking a bit grim at the mo.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: djws1788 on October 05, 2013, 07:56:15 PM
how many more poor challenges will silva get away with?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Trowel on October 05, 2013, 07:56:17 PM
Missing Pienaar.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 05, 2013, 07:56:24 PM
Need a sub Roberto

Desperately. We need to offer more of a threat. Got to get Deulofeu on before it gets worse
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 05, 2013, 07:56:37 PM
Too many people too negative about us. Other teams have very good attacking players. They are allowed to cause us problems, given their value and their talent. It's not always a defending calamity that costs us a goal.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 07:57:01 PM
What a ball from barkley

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 07:57:04 PM
I think most assumed City would come into the match either hanging their head or chomping at the bit to erase the pain of the midweek game....unfortunately for us it is the latter.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 07:57:19 PM
Damn it, Mirallas!!!!!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on October 05, 2013, 07:57:33 PM
Great ball from Barkley. Shame about Mirallas' touch.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 07:57:39 PM
That is what Barkley and Mirallas should be doing.  Great ball and unlucky from Mirallas
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 07:58:01 PM
Good from naismith on the right there too

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 07:58:43 PM
You absolutely HAVE to convert that.  No excuse to waste such a brilliant feed from Barkley.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on October 05, 2013, 07:58:58 PM
Good from naismith on the right there too

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Shame he had a rush of blood at the end, but great play before that.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 05, 2013, 07:59:04 PM
We will be lucky to get anything from today
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 07:59:10 PM
Good from naismith on the right there too

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I was impressed with his bit of ball work.  A little heavy on the cross though
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 07:59:22 PM
A bit of confidence about Naismith this season.  A different player and earning his opportunities.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: djws1788 on October 05, 2013, 07:59:31 PM
nice move, shame about the cross. nice to see the idea is right though.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blob on October 05, 2013, 07:59:41 PM
they've started the 2nd like we started the 1st. let's hope the pattern is repeated...........
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 05, 2013, 08:00:59 PM
They battered Villa and lost 3-2. We just need to keep calm and there will be chances as long as we stay in touch.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 08:01:53 PM
Kolarov is going to smash naismith the first chance he gets now

Will he get sent off for it though?

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 08:01:55 PM
There Will Be Blood.

False Prophet (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51Fn2r-8hHI#ws)
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 08:02:14 PM
I hate when commentators say what a player's intent was on close plays. They have no clue and them trying to say Naismith did it on purpose to cut Kolarov's head is so stupid.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: montanatoffeefan on October 05, 2013, 08:02:32 PM
I've counted at least three blatant City dives.

Well under their average then.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 08:02:45 PM
Maybe not then!

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 08:03:06 PM
Lukaku doesn't seem to be a 90 minute striker right now. He always looks goosed second half.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: dchans on October 05, 2013, 08:03:13 PM
come on (negative) guys, this lot are the League favourites!!

Think we are doing well, away to them.  Only need one more good chance..
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 08:03:33 PM
At least we have been injuring their players forcing their hand in substitutions.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueski on October 05, 2013, 08:03:37 PM
surprised the scratch is forcing kolarov substitution
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: montanatoffeefan on October 05, 2013, 08:04:21 PM
Silva, two cynical challenges - should have got a yellow by now.

They'll send off whichever our players pays Silva back with a good, stiff challenge.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Redartin on October 05, 2013, 08:04:28 PM
Thought Kolarov was excellent today - maybe now we have a chance down that wing
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 08:04:38 PM
Sounds like Gibbo is coming on...but for whom?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Trowel on October 05, 2013, 08:04:53 PM
Kolorov was fairly deliberately obstructing him,  always going to get a push if you're showing no intent to play a bouncing ball.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: DannyR on October 05, 2013, 08:05:17 PM
Streams gone Shoggers, any others?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 08:05:45 PM
About to make the double (Gibbo and Gerry)
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2013, 08:05:49 PM
Mirallas needs to come off so we can play with 2 wide men rather than just Naismith.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueski on October 05, 2013, 08:05:53 PM
gerard coming on?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: The Good Citizen on October 05, 2013, 08:06:17 PM
Barkley is playing in the hole with 3 players on him, you have to be more forgiving if he loses possession or if something doesn't come off, he's still created plenty. Naismith has been excellent and McCarthy. Still in this.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 08:06:31 PM
Positive subs on the way hopefully for Osman and Mirallas
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on October 05, 2013, 08:07:47 PM
Not really Lukaku's game to chase down defenders is it?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 05, 2013, 08:07:48 PM
Come on Deulofeu. Big chance to influence an important game for us and be taken to the fans' hearts.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 08:07:51 PM
Positive subs on the way hopefully for Osman and Mirallas

2 for 2.  Good call.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 08:07:54 PM
Good changes by RM
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Trowel on October 05, 2013, 08:07:55 PM
Good subs.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blob on October 05, 2013, 08:08:22 PM
Streams gone Shoggers, any others?

http://firstrownow.eu/watch/212297/2/watch-manchester-city-vs-everton-fc.html (http://firstrownow.eu/watch/212297/2/watch-manchester-city-vs-everton-fc.html)
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 08:08:36 PM
I guess I forget Mirallas may have been hurt coming into the match so wonder if that was the case for him today.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Danny on October 05, 2013, 08:08:38 PM
Osman is absolutely dire in that deeper role.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 08:08:42 PM
The right subs there, if we don't get something it won't be because we haven't given it a go.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueski on October 05, 2013, 08:08:47 PM
deulofeu playing on left ha ha
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 08:08:49 PM
No complaints re RM's tactical acumen.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on October 05, 2013, 08:09:26 PM
Pace seems to have dropped out of the game a bit.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: montanatoffeefan on October 05, 2013, 08:09:36 PM
gerard coming on?

I know it's easier than spelling out his last name. And his first isn't quite as awful as it sounds. But it just seems horrible to call one of our players "Gerard."
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 08:10:04 PM
Thanks for all the gross close-ups, NBC!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 05, 2013, 08:10:25 PM
I know it's easier than spelling out his last name. And his first isn't quite as awful as it sounds. But it just seems horrible to call one of our players "Gerard."

I can't bring myself to write it, even in quotation marks.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Jimbo and the Jetset on October 05, 2013, 08:10:54 PM
Seamus had himself a new poo hole ripped today :(
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 05, 2013, 08:11:33 PM
Get an equaliser & we'll win this.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueski on October 05, 2013, 08:11:34 PM
I know it's easier than spelling out his last name. And his first isn't quite as awful as it sounds. But it just seems horrible to call one of our players "Gerard."

i know was thinking the same when I wrote it but spelling his last name does my head in
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 08:12:04 PM
I think the next goal will be the last today.  Whoever gets it.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on October 05, 2013, 08:13:00 PM
Oh come on.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 08:13:01 PM
Terrible by Seamus there.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 08:13:01 PM
Ffs

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 05, 2013, 08:13:09 PM
Twat ref.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 08:13:22 PM
And it will come via penalty FFS.  Ridiculous.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 05, 2013, 08:13:22 PM
Blatant pen. End of.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueski on October 05, 2013, 08:13:22 PM
fuck off cheat
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 08:13:27 PM
Actually on the highlight that was very very soft
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: jongre123 on October 05, 2013, 08:13:30 PM
Fuck off absolute shithouse of a ref.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on October 05, 2013, 08:13:33 PM
Terrible by Seamus there.

That was a complete dive.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Ross on October 05, 2013, 08:13:33 PM
Embarrassing
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 05, 2013, 08:13:38 PM
I think the next goal will be the last today.  Whoever gets it.

Drumroll.......
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 08:13:54 PM
On the replay...he barely touched him.  Blatant dive.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Amata on October 05, 2013, 08:13:57 PM
How is it ok to push Lukaku but not Zabaleta?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 08:14:12 PM
Unlucky Tim

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2013, 08:14:13 PM
Game over, Howard doesn't save pens.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Nicco on October 05, 2013, 08:14:26 PM
But the Lukaku on then?
No consistency at all by Moss...
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: steve81 on October 05, 2013, 08:14:28 PM
Coleman at fault for all 3 goals
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Optimistic Blue on October 05, 2013, 08:14:30 PM
Really starting to dislike Aguero alot
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on October 05, 2013, 08:14:40 PM
Oh dear.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: DannyR on October 05, 2013, 08:14:47 PM
FUCK RIGHT OFF
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 08:14:50 PM
OG on Howard since he headed it in?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 08:14:50 PM
It just isn't to be our day.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blob on October 05, 2013, 08:15:17 PM
obviously bought that pen. bastard. probably game over.

hard not to be disappointed, but i reckon we are watching the title winners.

fuck it.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 05, 2013, 08:15:21 PM
Coleman at fault for all 3 goals

On the bright side he gave Negredo a good telling off.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 08:15:23 PM
This is what the Prem and Sky want.  Watching the rest with the sound muted.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Amata on October 05, 2013, 08:15:51 PM
Deulofeu getting in on the 'give the ball away' game.  We have give so many simple balls away today.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 05, 2013, 08:16:11 PM
You can't pull someone's arm when they've burst past you in the box, whether he was looking for it or not.

We should've had the Lukaku pen, but I still say that was a pen.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 05, 2013, 08:16:18 PM
Own goal. Hard luck Howard. Ref is a fucking disgrace.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: montanatoffeefan on October 05, 2013, 08:16:42 PM
On the replay...he barely touched him.  Blatant dive.

It was. And after a blatant foul on Lukaku in the box went unpunished. Bravo performance by this referee.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 08:17:01 PM
Might as well send on our last sub and give it a go. Kone or Jela.....who will it be?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Cuttyblue on October 05, 2013, 08:17:02 PM
Horrible pen call, referee did what the entertainment industry wanted.

TBF, I can't say we've deserved a point today so far.  Too many poor individual performances.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueski on October 05, 2013, 08:17:40 PM
It just isn't to be our day.
not over with lukaku and deulofeu on
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 08:17:59 PM
Both Mancs play such cowardly football.  Despite having all the money in the world.  Disgraceful to see it rewarded.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2013, 08:18:05 PM
Just give it to Deulofeu and let him run for the rest of the match.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Amata on October 05, 2013, 08:18:10 PM
Cant believe how little Baines has been involved today.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 05, 2013, 08:18:33 PM
Horrible pen call, referee did what the entertainment industry wanted.

TBF, I can't say we've deserved a point today so far.  Too many poor individual performances.

Think you give the officials too much credit. Theyve been useless rather than corrupt
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Gash on October 05, 2013, 08:18:48 PM
4-3, we're gonna win 4-3, we're gonna win 4-3, we're gonna win 4-3, 4-3.......................
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 08:18:49 PM
Silva booled eventually

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 05, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
Ridiculous decision for the penalty. How is a two handed push not a penalty, yet a slight brush of an arm is?

Ridiculous.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: steve81 on October 05, 2013, 08:18:54 PM
Shame we really need to put in some strong second halves something to work on fitness
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on October 05, 2013, 08:18:57 PM
Silva should've had about 4 yellows.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 05, 2013, 08:19:05 PM
About fucking time.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 08:19:17 PM
Cant believe how little Baines has been involved today.

Milner has done a good job on him. Tactically City have been spot on today.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 08:19:38 PM
Zabaletta again.  Just falls down.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 05, 2013, 08:19:57 PM
Tackle McCarthy.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueski on October 05, 2013, 08:20:05 PM
immense game from mccarthy today too bad its overshadowed by the result thus far
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 05, 2013, 08:20:56 PM
Lukaku looks knackered.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: jongre123 on October 05, 2013, 08:21:02 PM
I'm not one for jumping on the Naismith hate but he has been absolute shite. Loses the ball every time it gets to him, wins headers but most of them have gone straight back to City.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 08:21:13 PM
Yeah, McCarthy will get my MotM vote for the second week in a row.

The refs know to give a couple of inconsequential yellows to City now.  You know, to make it "even."
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Amata on October 05, 2013, 08:21:20 PM
Completely run out of ideas now.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2013, 08:21:23 PM
total non-event now.

I'd bring Kone on for Lukaku, he's been anonymous second half.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Jimbo and the Jetset on October 05, 2013, 08:21:39 PM
If we can somehow blag the next goal they'll shit themselves like we did on Monday.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Nicco on October 05, 2013, 08:21:57 PM
Silva should've had about 4 yellows.
Agree!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: evertonarntwe on October 05, 2013, 08:22:14 PM
I'm not one for jumping on the Naismith hate but he has been absolute shite. Loses the ball every time it gets to him, wins headers but most of them have gone straight back to City.

because he is fucking shit,
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Cuttyblue on October 05, 2013, 08:22:46 PM
immense game from mccarthy today too bad its overshadowed by the result thus far

Agreed. MOM so far.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Amata on October 05, 2013, 08:22:58 PM
Naismith off Kone on and go for it.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 08:23:27 PM
because he is fucking shit,

You really have both been watching a very different game from me.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Trowel on October 05, 2013, 08:23:54 PM
total non-event now.

I'd bring Kone on for Lukaku, he's been anonymous second half.

"Lukakwho"
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: steve81 on October 05, 2013, 08:24:09 PM
Lukaku quiet again second half not sticking
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Nicco on October 05, 2013, 08:24:13 PM
Yeah, McCarthy will get my MotM vote for the second week in a row.

The refs know to give a couple of inconsequential yellows to City now.  You know, to make it "even."
And not to affect on the result!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2013, 08:24:15 PM
You really have both been watching a very different game from me.

Just an agenda.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Ross on October 05, 2013, 08:25:02 PM
because he is fucking shit,

What a fucking whopper
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 08:25:03 PM
Coleman's worst game in ages sadly.  He just hasn't coped with City's trickiness. He isn't the only one though.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 08:25:04 PM
Third sub shows we haven't given up at least.  But 3-1 is the inevitable, unfair result.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 08:25:21 PM
Oh Moss, Silva ran into Coleman who was already laying on the ground
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: hill135 on October 05, 2013, 08:25:51 PM
Mark Halsey has disagreed with everything Moss has done today. Goes to show how biased he's been as so far this season Halsey hasn't had a bad word to say about any ref.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: matty1878 on October 05, 2013, 08:26:00 PM
When you need a win who do you play?...... Every time every time
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 05, 2013, 08:26:03 PM
Kone.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 08:26:41 PM
Too late this change

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 08:27:03 PM
Love Lukaku but probably should have come off a fair bit earlier.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: evertonarntwe on October 05, 2013, 08:27:04 PM
What a fucking whopper

fuck off you maggot, he is shit its my opinion. little keyboard hero
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: steve81 on October 05, 2013, 08:27:41 PM
Rabbit in headlights a sums up naismith
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: montanatoffeefan on October 05, 2013, 08:28:31 PM
fuck off you maggot, he is shit its my opinion. little keyboard hero

He hasn't been shit today.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 08:28:37 PM
Third sub shows we haven't given up at least.  But 3-1 is the inevitable, unfair result.

Maybe not 3-1 but it's hard to deny City have been a fair bit better than us today.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 08:29:09 PM
Haha US commentator on NBC questioning Everton's "staying power" and "ambition" as we look to be the last team to lose a match when playing title contenders on the road. Fucking knob.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Cuttyblue on October 05, 2013, 08:30:15 PM
They're running circles around us.  Man City have done well, we got the backlash from them instead of the "loss of confidence" after their Bayern beating.'

EDIT: Strongly encourage the boo boys to back off Naismith.  Although he hasn't been great, he been better than more than half of the others.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 08:30:19 PM
Rabbit in headlights a sums up naismith

Weird that considering how often he puts himself on the line, takes the shot on despite the fact some people will rip him if he doesn't score.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 05, 2013, 08:30:24 PM
Was good while it lasted but unfortunate way to end the unbeaten run. Shit happens.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Ross on October 05, 2013, 08:30:28 PM
fuck off you maggot, he is shit its my opinion. little keyboard hero

Stop embarrassing yourself
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 05, 2013, 08:30:36 PM
Ref's had a mare, but City have been better than us. Conceding so quickly after we took the lead was the turning point, cos we could never prey on their insecurities at the moment. They got some impetus back straight away.

Sometimes you lose games away against teams that have spent 100's of millions. It happens.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: evertonarntwe on October 05, 2013, 08:30:48 PM
He hasn't been shit today.

he's been awfull, had a few good moments in the first half, but he is just not good enough loses to many simple passes
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Amata on October 05, 2013, 08:31:01 PM
Dont understand why Barkley refuses to get a foot in.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 08:31:07 PM
Too late this change

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Probably should have happened after the PK
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 08:31:08 PM
I would say they have been marginally better, and that's all.  80% of their advantage has come from dives.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 05, 2013, 08:31:42 PM
Haha US commentator on NBC questioning Everton's "staying power" and "ambition" as we look to be the last team to lose a match when playing title contenders on the road. Fucking knob.

It's Jim Beglin. He's a cunt and a moron.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blob on October 05, 2013, 08:31:55 PM
Maybe not 3-1 but it's hard to deny City have been a fair bit better than us today.

agreed. we're being schooled now. pity.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Redartin on October 05, 2013, 08:32:04 PM
You really have both been watching a very different game from me.

Agree. Strange game, the players who are least popular: Naismith, McCarthy, even Osman all played really well today, whereas the usual suspects Baines, Coleman etc were non existent.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: djws1788 on October 05, 2013, 08:32:06 PM
we were never going to stay undefeated forever. i would rather drop points away to title contenders than teams we should be beating and finishing above. ref has been shite but city have deserved it regardless. just tastes bitter because we've essentially been denied any fight back by poor decisions.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 08:32:19 PM
City playing like title contenders

Everton playing like the best of the rest

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: evertonarntwe on October 05, 2013, 08:32:22 PM
Stop embarrassing yourself

LOL SOZ M8
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2013, 08:32:49 PM
If the referee did his job properly we might have won this.

Their interplay has been irresistible though.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 08:32:50 PM
Was good while it lasted but unfortunate way to end the unbeaten run. Shit happens.

Rather it be to them as there is no shame in it then against Crystal Palace or Hull
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: evertonarntwe on October 05, 2013, 08:33:30 PM
Agree. Strange game, the players who are least popular: Naismith, McCarthy, even Osman all played really well today, whereas the usual suspects Baines, Coleman etc were non existent.

MCCARTHY least popular? you taking the piss, least popular according to who?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 08:33:40 PM
Sure, they have dominated after they got the BS pen to go up 3-1.  No surprise there.

This could easily have been 1-1, 2-1, or 2-2.  Any of those would be a fair result.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: steve81 on October 05, 2013, 08:33:46 PM
Need to sort energy levels in second half everyone looks knackered
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Trowel on October 05, 2013, 08:33:53 PM
Rabbit in headlights a sums up naismith

No need to check the score everyone - here's steve.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on October 05, 2013, 08:34:14 PM
Halsey: "John's lost the plot!"
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on October 05, 2013, 08:34:51 PM
Weve been shit today. Too many poor performances. Still we move on. Losing away at City is no shame
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 05, 2013, 08:35:02 PM
The old classic from the ref. Give city a couple of yellows after you've decided the result of the match so it doesn't look too biased to the people assessing your performance.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2013, 08:35:12 PM
It's not in his nature but I hope Martinez pulls the ref in his interview post match.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 08:35:15 PM
By that I mean that Mirallas could have converted his clear second half chance, or Howard stopped one of their goals.  I don't think we were the superior side, by any means.  But close to equal.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on October 05, 2013, 08:35:19 PM
Need to sort energy levels in second half everyone looks knackered

Bowl of Skittles with Red Bull on them?

Dab of speed each?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: djws1788 on October 05, 2013, 08:35:32 PM
Halsey: "John's lost the plot!"

need to have it first to lose it.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueski on October 05, 2013, 08:35:37 PM
absolutely nothing coming off for us
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 08:36:37 PM
Need to sort energy levels in second half everyone looks knackered

Think that is the Martinez system. High pressing, movement, & possession can take a lot out of the players. Will probably be a month or two until I think everyone adjusts.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2013, 08:36:47 PM
Look forward to having Barry back after internationals.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 08:36:57 PM
Kone doing what Kone does.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueToffee on October 05, 2013, 08:37:27 PM
I understand he probably wanted a shot but that was very poor from Kone. None if the subs have really made an impact.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 05, 2013, 08:37:29 PM
Rather it be to them as there is no shame in it then against Crystal Palace or Hull

Agree but this game was obviously gonna go in Citehs favour from the first bad decision from the twat with the whistle.

Interesting observation as I think he should have been subbed early second half:

"People have been saying should Chelsea have loaned out Lukaku or shouldn't they? He has shown today he still has a lot to learn. He has done some things very well but there have been things he should do better." BBC
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on October 05, 2013, 08:37:38 PM
Look forward to having Barry back after internationals.

Missed him big time today.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Thornton_19 on October 05, 2013, 08:37:50 PM
The worst part about this game was conceding straight after we just scored. That is the biggest disappointment.

I also think we are easy to dictate the game against, that needs to be addressed apart from that after 7 games i think we will do very well this season.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Cuttyblue on October 05, 2013, 08:37:55 PM
Kone doing what Kone does.

Poor guy has only been on long enough to remind us how s#it he his  :(
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 08:37:56 PM
Think that is the Martinez system. High pressing, movement, & possession can take a lot out of the players. Will probably be a month or two until I think everyone adjusts.

Agreed.  It's a blessing in disguise we didn't qualify for Europe this season.  Don't have that level of depth or stamina yet.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Trowel on October 05, 2013, 08:38:04 PM
absolutely nothing coming off for us

Yep, but on the positive side at least it's a game where a point or more would have been a bonus, rather than one we definitely should be winning.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 08:38:47 PM
We miss Pienaar at least as an option at the moment.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: montanatoffeefan on October 05, 2013, 08:39:04 PM
Bowl of Skittles with Red Bull on them?

Dab of speed each?

And more team cycling tours.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Nicco on October 05, 2013, 08:39:16 PM
An ok game really. Losing 3-1 away to one of three title contenders is not a shame. With a little bit of luck we could have had a draw but in the end it was a normal game away at Etihad..
A bit disappointing but no real surprise!

And Moss really lost the plot!
Flashing the yellow card like traffic light in the end.....
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bob Sacamano on October 05, 2013, 08:39:30 PM
Missed him big time today.

We'd have coped better with Silva if Barry was playing, we would have given them a right game if he played imo.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 08:39:33 PM
Missed Barry today

A bit of solidity and control in midfield would have done us good

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Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Redartin on October 05, 2013, 08:39:38 PM
MCCARTHY least popular? you taking the piss, least popular according to who?

All the arseholes who questioned the amount we paid for him.

All the arseholes who cried, "not another Wigan player"

What threads were you reading?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Thornton_19 on October 05, 2013, 08:40:11 PM
We miss Pienaar at least as an option at the moment.

Couldn't agree more with that. Most of all we miss his work rate down the left.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 05, 2013, 08:40:12 PM
Awful dive by the City resident Ashley Young, Zabaletta, and a completely inept second half performance.

Think 1-2 would have been fair, they were far better, but annoyed bout that 3rd City goal.

Not going to pick a MoTM, pretty much poor across the park.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 08:41:07 PM
Love the unanimous love for McCarthy in today's vote.  Evertonians are an intelligent lot.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Jimbo and the Jetset on October 05, 2013, 08:41:36 PM
BOOM!
That's the sound of reality.
Remember when we asked what would happen when we faced a world class forward line?
Should've been about 7-1.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on October 05, 2013, 08:42:52 PM
I think McCarthy's gonna be a great player for us.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: true1891blue on October 05, 2013, 08:43:03 PM
jimbo you really need put the glue away NOW !!!!!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 05, 2013, 08:43:09 PM
Love the unanimous love for McCarthy in today's vote.  Evertonians are an intelligent lot.

Who voted for Kone?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: evertonarntwe on October 05, 2013, 08:43:19 PM
All the arseholes who questioned the amount we paid for him.

All the arseholes who cried, "not another Wigan player"

What threads were you reading?

well for one i read every topic, that would be weird

secondly, even if people question his price tag how is that making him unpopular?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bally on October 05, 2013, 08:43:22 PM
Thought Coleman had a good game today as did Distin that was never a 3-1 game the ref was a fucking joke
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: American Evertonian on October 05, 2013, 08:44:02 PM
Love the unanimous love for McCarthy in today's vote.  Evertonians are an intelligent lot.

And then.....someone voted for Coleman
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Thom on October 05, 2013, 08:44:09 PM
Same match playing out again for us today. Great first half, poor second... though City were much improved after the break and didn't allow us that extra time on the ball, thus causing us to run out of ideas.

Absolute shocker of a referee performance from John Moss too. Should have been a penalty for us, was 50/50 for theirs and lost the plot after giving City their penalty. Thought Coleman was awful defensively today as well, especially that moment with Negredo. No need for what he did there, and caused a loss of concentration at the back which resulted in City's second.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: DannyR on October 05, 2013, 08:44:34 PM
McCarthy MOM for me, had a decent game.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: dunkster on October 05, 2013, 08:45:40 PM
Naismith really is a poor player. every pass and touh second half was pis poor.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Glory on October 05, 2013, 08:48:05 PM
Can't believe someone craps on about facing a world class forward line and then goes and says it SHOULD have been 7-1. Oh the irony...
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 08:48:46 PM
I had to go and jinx the unanimity.  Sorry guys and gals.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: pjk on October 05, 2013, 08:48:51 PM
Oh well. A couple of our players had an off day, but  promising  early on  though.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: toffee_scot on October 05, 2013, 08:48:51 PM
No shame in losing to Man City at the Etihad although a disappointing second half. Lets just see how we bounce back.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: bluestevie on October 05, 2013, 08:49:41 PM
Disappointing but I'd rather the unbeaten start had fallen to a team like City over say a Hull or Palace. The referee lost his way big time, even Mark Halsey on BT was critical of him. As far as the penalty calls go, the Naismith one was 50/50, Lukaku's was stonewall and the City one was a joke
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: evertonarntwe on October 05, 2013, 08:49:50 PM
Naismith really is a poor player. every pass and touh second half was pis poor.

cant have an opinion on here lad, get the queers crying about this any minute now
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 08:49:55 PM
It makes me laugh how Naismith is immediately highlighted as having a poor touch second half.  He was one of few good performances although he certainly tired. Lukaku, Barkley, Gibson, Coleman, Mirallas, Deulofeu all had as poor touches second half. 
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bluedylan on October 05, 2013, 08:49:58 PM
Anyone who thought Coleman had a good game was watching a different game, or doesn't understand much about football. I love him, but he was dominated today.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: DannyR on October 05, 2013, 08:50:01 PM
Hopefully we can pick ourselves up quickly, get the points going, winning the leauge is still on!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 05, 2013, 08:50:04 PM
Naismith really is a poor player. every pass and touh second half was pis poor.

Either touhed or pised.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Thornton_19 on October 05, 2013, 08:50:38 PM
After the international break hopefully Pienaar will be back a few of our players will have got rid of this niggling injuries and got fully fit for the Hull and Palace games.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 08:50:45 PM
cant have an opinion on here lad, get the queers crying about this any minute now

Ha, queers! You Sir need a banning ten times more than any Sharpattack on this site who at least tries to back his opinion up.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: jongre123 on October 05, 2013, 08:51:04 PM
Okay City played better than us and were playing some lovely football but we have every right to feel aggrieved. We should have had a penalty to make us go 2-1 up. It was sloppy to let them have their second goal but the ref should have blown up and separated the two players, rather than let a scrap happen as we cleared the ball up the pitch. Their penalty looked a dive in which case Zabaleta should have had a card, in which case he could have been sent off today. Silva is getting creamed over as being the best player but he should have had 3 yellow cards. Not to mention Milner should have been sent off.

Sure City played better but everything went against us today and it looked like it knocked the stuffing out of us.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on October 05, 2013, 08:51:24 PM
You just new we were gonna be put under it today, given the hiding they got against ILB's finest in midweek.

No shame as said, just a bummer we have a two week break until Hull to bounce back.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: evertonarntwe on October 05, 2013, 08:52:42 PM
Ha, queers! You Sir need a banning ten times more than any Sharpattack on this site who at least tries to back his opinion up.

dont need to back my opinion up, he is shit, i'd say just watch the match and see how shit he is but your interested in rimming his bumhole
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Audrey Horne on October 05, 2013, 08:53:12 PM
Disappointing with our second half, fitness levels need addressing. I hate how one minute I can think we have an amazing team and the next im worrying about the team!

Wish we could bounce right back next week but shitty England >:(

Mirallas has been poor all season, not sure whats up with him really, but everyone seemed to be crap today. Was cringing in the second half at the amount we gave the ball away.

Ah well, to the pub!!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: the roy vernon plan on October 05, 2013, 08:53:15 PM
City had an easy win in the end thanks in great measure to a terrible penalty decision. Noneheless EFC did nothing in the secoond half. Lukaka seemed to switch off and Barkley was missing  Ossie always starts well and fades, and as for Naismith what more evidence is needed to see that the guy is wank.
Oh, Miralles seemed injured.
Graet game from McCarthy and Lukaku in the first half. Other than that a downer.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2013, 08:53:46 PM
What the fuck is Owen Hargreaves on?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 05, 2013, 08:56:56 PM
Fuck me we didnt half miss Barry today.

Mcarthey, Naismith and Distin the only players who played well today.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Redartin on October 05, 2013, 08:57:14 PM
well for one i read every topic, that would be weird

secondly, even if people question his price tag how is that making him unpopular?

It wasn't just a case of questioning his price tag, he was not a popular choice AT THAT TIME, a lot of posters felt we could have got better for the money. A number were also critical of his first appearance.

Don't get me wrong, I think he's a good lad and he is starting to win more people over, but it wasn't always that way.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: the roy vernon plan on October 05, 2013, 08:58:49 PM
Motormouth Ram thought Naismith played well. You are truly one thick bastard, Get back to the porn pages you tosser. 
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Tony Clifton on October 05, 2013, 09:01:10 PM
McCarthy's best game for us yet, shame I'm forced to give Howard the nod for MOTM. 

Ref was a right cunt, but we just weren't good enough second half. 

That old cliché, a game of two-halves, sums us up lately.  That, and schizophrenic.

On a lighter note, enjoyed hearing Michael Owen commentary - first time I've heard him do this and he impressed/surprised me.  Good stuff.  Always got the impression he was a bit "lights-on, nobody home" for some reason.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 09:01:16 PM
Motormouth Ram thought Naismith played well. You are truly one thick bastard, Get back to the porn pages you tosser. 

So did the vast majority of rational human beings.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Eddie on October 05, 2013, 09:01:24 PM
Motormouth Ram thought Naismith played well. You are truly one thick bastard, Get back to the porn pages you tosser. 

He played as well as anyone first half. Just about everyone was poor second half so he hardly stands out for playing poor.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Confucius on October 05, 2013, 09:02:02 PM
Motormouth Ram thought Naismith played well. You are truly one thick bastard, Get back to the porn pages you tosser. 

Naismith did play well
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: pjk on October 05, 2013, 09:02:17 PM
Unlucky with their penalty, but I think the Lukaku shout was more obvious than theirs. Naismith worked his bollocks off again. No! He’s not mega talented, but he’s a real trier.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Tony Clifton on October 05, 2013, 09:02:43 PM
Motormouth Ram thought Naismith played well. You are truly one thick bastard, Get back to the porn pages you tosser. 

Fucking hell, the handbags are out today.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Ross on October 05, 2013, 09:03:25 PM
Might as well close this before the lunnies run wild.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: bluestevie on October 05, 2013, 09:04:32 PM
Motormouth Ram thought Naismith played well. You are truly one thick bastard, Get back to the porn pages you tosser. 

Says the thickest twat on this whole site
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: bacon sarnie on October 05, 2013, 09:06:49 PM
Now-now lads & lasses enough blood was spilled today and thankfully all Citehs.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Tony Clifton on October 05, 2013, 09:07:25 PM
Which nutter voted Kone MOTM?  Sarcastic voting FTW!  lolol
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: jongre123 on October 05, 2013, 09:08:23 PM
So did the vast majority of rational human beings.

I know we have some ridiculous posters on here but I have to agree, Naismith did absolutely nothing today. He was slow, wasteful and his touch was horrendous. He was so sloppy, I cant fault his effort but I can't believe he wasn't subbed instead of Lukaku and it should have happened early in the second half.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 05, 2013, 09:10:32 PM
Motormouth Ram thought Naismith played well. You are truly one thick bastard, Get back to the porn pages you tosser. 

Kinell lad, how old are you?

I thought he was one of the few players who played well today, anyone with half a brain could see that, but thinking you have even half a brain is a bit of a stretch isnt it.

Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 05, 2013, 09:11:10 PM
I know we have some ridiculous posters on here but I have to agree, Naismith did absolutely nothing today. He was slow, wasteful and his touch was horrendous. He was so sloppy, I cant fault his effort but I can't believe he wasn't subbed instead of Lukaku and it should have happened early in the second half.

Yes, because Lukakus touch was brilliant today.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: DannyR on October 05, 2013, 09:11:49 PM
The Roy Vernon plan, makes me want to punch things
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: steve81 on October 05, 2013, 09:11:58 PM
I know we have some ridiculous posters on here but I have to agree, Naismith did absolutely nothing today. He was slow, wasteful and his touch was horrendous. He was so sloppy, I cant fault his effort but I can't believe he wasn't subbed instead of Lukaku and it should have happened early in the second half.
frst touch in first half where he could have gone clear awful
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: jongre123 on October 05, 2013, 09:12:22 PM
Yes, because Lukakus touch was brilliant today.

Agreed, but who is more likely to score from out of nowhere, Lukaku or Naismith?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 05, 2013, 09:12:56 PM
frst touch in first half where he could have gone clear awful

Lukakus touch throughout the second half, awful.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 09:13:38 PM
cant have an opinion on here lad, get the queers crying about this any minute now

you can have an opinion, what you can't do is repeatedly call people names for disagreeing with you

I laughed when you called someone a maggot and a keyboard warrior in the same sentence, but you're on the verge of being banned for your posts now
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2013, 09:13:43 PM
Lukakus touch throughout the second half, awful.

as well as his hold up play and take-ons
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Redartin on October 05, 2013, 09:14:27 PM
It's easy to be critical of forward players but if they don't get the ball what the fuck can they do? :headbang:

At half time the cry was swap Mirallas for Barca kid, but when he did come on I only remember him making two stray passes. Other than that he never got the ball.
Did Lukaku fade cause he was knackered running around looking for a ball that never came.
Kone never got a chance either.

After the goal and the quick equaliser we seemed to be doing much without actually doing anything.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: DannyR on October 05, 2013, 09:14:43 PM
Naismith was one of our better players today

<end thread>
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: GLewis on October 05, 2013, 09:15:14 PM
I know we have some ridiculous posters on here but I have to agree, Naismith did absolutely nothing today. He was slow, wasteful and his touch was horrendous. He was so sloppy, I cant fault his effort but I can't believe he wasn't subbed instead of Lukaku and it should have happened early in the second half.

Did just about as much as any other forward player.

Naismith loses the ball = lots of fuck off Naismith shouts.

Barkley or Lukaku lose it from an even worse piece of play = silence.

People look for Naismith to be poor, so when he makes a mistake it confirms the "opinion" of him.

They expect the others to be good and therefore notice the better bits while forgetting the rubbish bits to an extent.

They're natural reactions so I'm not overly having a go but they happen frequently.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: jongre123 on October 05, 2013, 09:15:48 PM
as well as his hold up play and take-ons

I'm not disagreeing about Lukaku in the second half being rubbish but Naismith was like that the whole match and i'd rather have the player on the pitch who is more likely to score goals.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: jongre123 on October 05, 2013, 09:21:37 PM
Did just about as much as any other forward player.

Naismith loses the ball = lots of fuck off Naismith shouts.

Barkley or Lukaku lose it from an even worse piece of play = silence.

People look for Naismith to be poor, so when he makes a mistake it confirms the "opinion" of him.

They expect the others to be good and therefore notice the better bits while forgetting the rubbish bits to an extent.

They're natural reactions so I'm not overly having a go but they happen frequently.

I'm not looking to hate on Naismith, against Chelsea in the second half he was our best player. Today though I don't why everyone is saying he was one of our best players. He was played in a few times today with space ahead of him when we were on the counter attack and he lost it every time.

 Regarding Barkley and Lukaku - Lukaku scored and was looking to run  at the defenders, he was poor in the second half but he's our most creative player at the minute. Barkley sat in the midfield and was trying to create, he played Mirallas in and if for a better touch, we might have had a goal. He lost the ball a few times when surrounded by players and I did complain at him but in all Naismith did nothing. I can't make a claim as to how he played well apart from the one time he tracked back and made a good tackle.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: keiko on October 05, 2013, 09:24:20 PM
Did just about as much as any other forward player.

Naismith loses the ball = lots of fuck off Naismith shouts.

Barkley or Lukaku lose it from an even worse piece of play = silence.

People look for Naismith to be poor, so when he makes a mistake it confirms the "opinion" of him.

They expect the others to be good and therefore notice the better bits while forgetting the rubbish bits to an extent.

They're natural reactions so I'm not overly having a go but they happen frequently.


people wanted barkley to be taken of at HT, i read it on here.. people saying he was "awful"  for giving the ball away a couple of times. despite having a good first half.

it works two ways, some of the over praise of naismith becomes tiresome too. he was average, like many players, yes, he worked hard, but is highly limited. but i think he has a place in the squad.

the difference is even if barkley gives the ball away, he still can provide a moment of top class, naismith can't... and if that's a "good" naismith performance, we really have set low standards for him.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: The Good Citizen on October 05, 2013, 09:34:12 PM
Collectively second half we were second best. You can pick a player out to point the finger but who played well second half?? City are just a better team man for man and playing at home. Not really the game for pointing the finger. Naismith did as well as anyone else.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: hill135 on October 05, 2013, 09:34:42 PM
It's difficult enough playing away from home against one of the most expensively assembled teams in world football as it is, but the ref had a shocker. Every time he had to make a decision it went their way. He completely bottled it in front of the home crowd.

Positives for us are that Lukaku scored again, and McCarthy played rather well.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 05, 2013, 09:35:16 PM

people wanted barkley to be taken of at HT, i read it on here.. people saying he was "awful"  for giving the ball away a couple of times. despite having a good first half.

it works two ways, some of the over praise of naismith becomes tiresome too. he was average, like many players, yes, he worked hard, but is highly limited. but i think he has a place in the squad.

the difference is even if barkley gives the ball away, he still can provide a moment of top class, naismith can't... and if that's a "good" naismith performance, we really have set low standards for him.

The thing I find with Naismith is he is always looking to link play with our striker with quick one-twos to get a chance.

He's an odd player in that one minute it will come off for him and the next he makes an atrocious pass or touch and that seems to be how his game goes.

Still, he creates chances, works hard, wins the ball in the air, and has a tendency to score the odd goal. He also fucks up opportunities, slows down the play and loses the ball too frequently. But he was still no where near the worst player today and certainly not bad enough to be singled out.

Mirallas was far more wasteful, couldn't complete a pass if he tried, and really should have got a touch on that through ball from Barkley. If people are looking for a forward player to criticise today it has to be him.

I thought both Mirallas and Coleman were our worst players today each for different reasons.

McCarthy man of the match, showed great energy and desire, willing to drive on was confident and assured in possession.

Most players were average with a few mistakes thrown in, although we certainly lacked a player with the ability to hold the ball high up the pitch today and maintain possession.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Silas on October 05, 2013, 09:37:41 PM

people wanted barkley to be taken of at HT, i read it on here.. people saying he was "awful"  for giving the ball away a couple of times. despite having a good first half.

it works two ways, some of the over praise of naismith becomes tiresome too. he was average, like many players, yes, he worked hard, but is highly limited. but i think he has a place in the squad.

the difference is even if barkley gives the ball away, he still can provide a moment of top class, naismith can't... and if that's a "good" naismith performance, we really have set low standards for him.

I think that would be fair comment if people were raving about him or calling him mom they aren't, just saying he had a good game and wasn't shit. 

Agree to disagree on Barkley.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: evertonarntwe on October 05, 2013, 09:52:39 PM
you can have an opinion, what you can't do is repeatedly call people names for disagreeing with you

I laughed when you called someone a maggot and a keyboard warrior in the same sentence, but you're on the verge of being banned for your posts now

before you start going off on one, ill let you look back and read the comments, i said naismith was shite, to be called a whopper, so how the fuck is  that me calling people "names"??? the over praising on naismith on ths forum is shocking
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2013, 09:58:11 PM
Then fuck off you whopper
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Simon Paul on October 05, 2013, 10:00:04 PM
before you start going off on one, ill let you look back and read the comments, i said naismith was shite, to be called a whopper, so how the fuck is  that me calling people "names"??? the over praising on naismith on ths forum is shocking

it's probably about as embarrassing as the over-criticism of him to be honest

except the people who over-praise him don't call people queer who don't agree with them

odd though, that you choose to focus on homosexuality in your insults like it's the worst thing you can think of accusing someone of...
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 05, 2013, 10:00:13 PM
before you start going off on one, ill let you look back and read the comments, i said naismith was shite, to be called a whopper, so how the fuck is  that me calling people "names"??? the over praising on naismith on ths forum is shocking

No one is over praising him, no one has said he was class have they? Or said he's a quality player, just that he wasn't shit today and actually was one of our better players. He was certainly better than Mirallas, Barkley and Lukaku.

You moan that you're not allowed an opinion on here, but when you come on here and say Naismith played shite whilst ignoring the other players who played far worse than him people are gonna call you a whopper.

People made up their minds about Naismith a long time ago and they jump on every mistake he makes to try and justify their opinion that he's shite and offers the team fuck all, people actually want to see him play shit, this is why comments like yours get jumped on.

Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: evertonarntwe on October 05, 2013, 10:06:56 PM
Then fuck off you whopper

get back to writing reports, nerd.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: evertonarntwe on October 05, 2013, 10:08:47 PM
No one is over praising him, no one has said he was class have they? Or said he's a quality player, just that he wasn't shit today and actually was one of our better players. He was certainly better than Mirallas, Barkley and Lukaku.

You moan that you're not allowed an opinion on here, but when you come on here and say Naismith played shite whilst ignoring the other players who played far worse than him people are gonna call you a whopper.

People made up their minds about Naismith a long time ago and they jump on every mistake he makes to try and justify their opinion that he's shite and offers the team fuck all, people actually want to see him play shit, this is why comments like yours get jumped on.



there was worse players than naismith today, quite a few actually, barkley was the worst player on the pitch by a mile, but in general naismith is shit, you can forgive players for having bad games it happens, but i just do not see what naismith offers? he is just a pointless player
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: TheRam on October 05, 2013, 10:11:37 PM
get back to writing reports, nerd.

there was worse players than naismith today, quite a few actually, barkley was the worst player on the pitch by a mile, but in general naismith is shit, you can forgive players for having bad games it happens, but i just do not see what naismith offers? he is just a pointless player

This is why no one takes you seriously and calls you a whopper mate. Today we've had you call someone a nerd, and me be called a tosser, just because we said Naismith had a decent game. It really is fucking embarrassing
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 05, 2013, 10:13:51 PM
get back to writing reports, nerd.

hahahahaha

Haven't heard someone called a nerd since I was about 11.

Yea Shogun - four-eyes! Gaywad! Go do some maths you faggy nerd!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Eddie on October 05, 2013, 10:14:54 PM
hahahahaha

Haven't heard someone called a nerd since I was about 11.

Yea Shogun - four-eyes! Gaywad! Go do some maths you faggy nerd!

I raise you dweeb!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Shogun on October 05, 2013, 10:16:38 PM
hahahahaha

Haven't heard someone called a nerd since I was about 11.

Yea Shogun - four-eyes! Gaywad! Go do some maths you faggy nerd!

reported.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 05, 2013, 10:17:02 PM
I raise you dweeb!

dork! geek! square!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: cantoffee on October 05, 2013, 10:17:49 PM
reported.

snitches get stitches shogun remember that you tattletale
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Eddie on October 05, 2013, 10:18:34 PM
dork! geek! square!

Douche bag.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Evertonian in NC on October 05, 2013, 10:32:01 PM
Anytime you see someone using "queer" as an insult...you can safely ignore everything they say, ad infinitum.  And assume that a great deal of repressed projection is involved.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Jimbo and the Jetset on October 05, 2013, 10:33:03 PM
Does today mean that we're not as good as Bayern Munich then?
;)
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Gash on October 05, 2013, 10:34:19 PM
get back to writing reports, nerd.

It's ironic that you call other people keyboard hero's yet USE CAPS LOCK FAR TOO OFTEN and spend most of the time handing out abuse. You were suspended for a short while before and obviously haven't learned from it, so it's probably time you found another forum to act a "keyboard hero" on.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: evertonarntwe on October 05, 2013, 10:41:04 PM
It's ironic that you call other people keyboard hero's yet USE CAPS LOCK FAR TOO OFTEN and spend most of the time handing out abuse. You were suspended for a short while before and obviously haven't learned from it, so it's probably time you found another forum to act a "keyboard hero" on.

take things far to personal you sunshine. get a grip
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Gash on October 05, 2013, 10:47:24 PM
take things far to personal you sunshine. get a grip

It's nothing personal to me.

Don't let the door hit you're arse on the way out.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Everton Mint on October 05, 2013, 10:49:01 PM
Not surprising we lost this one as we were too open and missed Barry and Pienaar (who everyone has forgotten),  but overall a great start to the season and we would all have taken 12 pts so far given the huge changes over the summer.

Under Moyes we may have got a draw today, but then under him we probably would not have gone 3-0 up vs newcastle and could've only drawn that game (or lost).

Wins are crucial and draws are not worth getting except against the top clubs. A win and a loss is better than 2 draws and so attacking football IS the answer to us progressing and challenging for better than 6th.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: sirblue57 on October 05, 2013, 10:55:11 PM
got to be honest, McCarthy is surprising me, i will admit to being wrong about signing him.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Geordie Blue on October 05, 2013, 11:34:30 PM
Not surprising we lost this one as we were too open and missed Barry and Pienaar (who everyone has forgotten),  but overall a great start to the season and we would all have taken 12 pts so far given the huge changes over the summer.

Under Moyes we may have got a draw today, but then under him we probably would not have gone 3-0 up vs newcastle and could've only drawn that game (or lost).

Wins are crucial and draws are not worth getting except against the top clubs. A win and a loss is better than 2 draws and so attacking football IS the answer to us progressing and challenging for better than 6th.

This is supported by the results in the equivalent fixtures last year (swap Cardiff away for Reading away). Same fixtures last year we managed 3 defeats, 2 draws and 2 wins so 8 points. We were a point worse off today compared to last years game and two points down on the West Brom game. However we've taken more or the same points in all five of the other fixtures!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Jimmywhack on October 05, 2013, 11:48:22 PM
The match day thread never fails

Bravo dweebs...... Bravo :))
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: NomadskiEFC on October 06, 2013, 12:10:07 AM
Naismith is utterly dire to be fair.  There's nothing like getting the ball to him for the whole move to slow down or break down completely. All he brings is sweat. Nothing more.

Not faulting the lad for his effort, he clearly wants to do well, and tries his bollox off, he just simply isn't good enough, at all.  And he is in too critical a part of the pitch for us to be fucking around with misplaced passes when we are playing as badly up front as we did today.

Its also a sign of how poor we were 2nd half that he wasn't even the worse player on the pitch for us...
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: slothzen on October 06, 2013, 12:27:24 AM
Naismith is utterly dire to be fair.  There's nothing like getting the ball to him for the whole move to slow down or break down completely. All he brings is sweat. Nothing more.

Not faulting the lad for his effort, he clearly wants to do well, and tries his bollox off, he just simply isn't good enough, at all.  And he is in too critical a part of the pitch for us to be fucking around with misplaced passes when we are playing as badly up front as we did today.

Its also a sign of how poor we were 2nd half that he wasn't even the worse player on the pitch for us...

I disagree in part.

I think Osman and Barkley were far more at fault for the breakdown of play than Naismith.  Naismith was moving well and made good decisions.  His tempo was high and some of the things he tried almost came off.

That said, I think he does lack somewhat in technical and reading-the-play ability.  If I had to choose between him and Pienaar, it's a no Brainer, but I think he's a good squad player for us.  He was infinitely more effective than Mirallas today.


Edit:  Also, thank god for McCarthy.  What a cool mofo.  His passing rate had to be above 80%.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: hill135 on October 06, 2013, 12:35:56 AM


Edit:  Also, thank god for McCarthy.  What a cool mofo.  His passing rate had to be above 80%.

87% mate!
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Gash on October 06, 2013, 01:31:04 AM
OK, lets all just calm the fuck down, we're second on Match Of The Day.  :D

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MOTD RUNNING ORDER
Here it is, Match of the Day is on at 2230 tonight with Messrs. Lineker, Hodgson & Shearer.

1.Sun/MU, 2.M.City/Eve, 3.L'pool/Palace, 4.Car/N'castle, 5.Fulham/Stoke, 6.Hull/Villa
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: oscar on October 06, 2013, 02:58:43 AM
Lukaku like up play was shocking second half and he runs out of steam after all his effort first half, really get fed up of naismith moaning and gesturing at his own team
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: blueski on October 06, 2013, 03:10:38 AM
Naismith is utterly dire to be fair.  There's nothing like getting the ball to him for the whole move to slow down or break down completely. All he brings is sweat. Nothing more.

Not faulting the lad for his effort, he clearly wants to do well, and tries his bollox off, he just simply isn't good enough, at all.  And he is in too critical a part of the pitch for us to be fucking around with misplaced passes when we are playing as badly up front as we did today.

Its also a sign of how poor we were 2nd half that he wasn't even the worse player on the pitch for us...
I think its down to his fitness

if you were to judge him on the first 30 minutes I'd think youd see the performance differently, it was the same last weekend

he's weaker technically than some and has been making up for it with sheer workrate and effort, thus far it seems like he doesn't have enough in him to last the whole game out but I thought he was one of our better performers and is clearly a different man from last season
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: The Analog Kid on October 06, 2013, 03:33:37 AM
First time i've read back through this thread, I left it at page 18 or something. What a fuckin' immense read, i'm gonna save it to the wife's Kindle.

Has anybody actually taken their life during todays match?
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Eddie on October 06, 2013, 03:53:00 AM
First time i've read back through this thread, I left it at page 18 or something. What a fuckin' immense read, i'm gonna save it to the wife's Kindle.

Has anybody actually taken their life during todays match?

I'm going to pay to get some monks to scribe it onto parchment. Thread of the year.
Title: Re: Manchester City v Everton
Post by: Bally on October 06, 2013, 02:49:54 PM
And then.....someone voted for Coleman
Yup that be me