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Title: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Shogun on February 21, 2015, 09:55:33 PM
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Everton FC v Leicester City
Goodison Park
Sunday 22nd February 14:05
Premier League Match #26

Everton - Last Five Matches

Everton 0-0 West Brom
Crystal Palace 0-1 Everton (Lukaku)
Everton 0-0 Liverpool
Chelsea 1-0 Everton
Young Boys 1-4 Everton - Europa League (Lukaku x3, Coleman)

Leicester - Last Five Matches

Tottenham 1-2 Leicester - FA Cup (Ulloa, Schlupp)
Manchester United 3-1 Leicester (Wasilewski)
Leicester 0-1 Crystal Palace
Arsenal 2-1 Leicester (Kramaric)
Aston Villa 2-1 Leicester - FA Cup (Kramaric)


Everton

Chelsea ended Everton's run of four matches without defeat in the premier league as Willian fired in the only goal late on in the match at Stamford Bridge in their last Premier League match. Everton have just one win in their last nine Premier League matches and failed to win in any of their last four matches at Goodison Park (D3, L1) and have drawn each of their last two home matches 0-0. Romelu Lukaku hasn't scored in any of his last five Premier League matches at Goodison Park, his last goal at home coming in a 1-1 draw with Hull city on the 3rd December 2014. A win would take Everton within 2 points of 11th place Newcastle United should the latter lose away to Manchester City.

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Possible Line ups

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Leicester

Leicester succumbed to their fourth defeat in a row in the Premier League with a valiant 2-1 defeat away to Arsenal before suffering an FA Cup exit to Aston Villa at the weekend with the same scoreline. Leicester have lost ten of their 13 away matches in the premier league this season (W2, D1) with wins over Stoke City and Hull City as well as a 2-2 draw at Anfield. Leicester have a kept a league low of four clean sheets this season and only QPR & Burnley (43) have conceded more goals than the 40 goals scored by the team currenly bottom of the league. Leonardo Ulloa scored five goals in his first five Premier League starts this season but he has only managed four goals in his last 13 Premier League starts for Leicester in the Premier League.

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Statistics & Injuries

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Well Counted Shogs


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Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 21, 2015, 09:58:38 PM
I am surprised that we have a pretty equal record against Leicester. Thought we'd have heaps more wins against them. Mostly draw against them in the Prem. Need to improve on that.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cozzie on February 21, 2015, 10:13:42 PM
Gotta win this, this would just sum up the season to drop points to them after the brilliance in switzerland.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 21, 2015, 10:16:22 PM
I have set my alarm so I don't miss a minute of this near-certain scoreless draw.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bluedylan on February 21, 2015, 10:16:58 PM
I'm hoping Goodson will be relatively positive tomorrow, a bit of the pressure on Barkley and to a lesser extent Lukaku has eased. I think the fans will be feeling a bit better about things after Thursday and hopefully we get an earlyish goal and that translates into a decent atmosphere, and a good assured win.

Then we can rotate in Europe midweek, and have a free run at Arsenal next weekend, with little or no pressure on us, and given that they like to come out and play, and that we've been good there for the last couple of seasons, we might cause them plenty of problems with the renewed confidence.

Also we owe Leicester one, after they fucked us up at the start of the season and set us off on a bad foot.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 21, 2015, 10:27:34 PM
I am surprised that we have a pretty equal record against Leicester. Thought we'd have heaps more wins against them. Mostly draw against them in the Prem. Need to improve on that.

They were a decent side in the old Division 1 when Frank Worthington was banging them in. Scored lots of goals as well.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 21, 2015, 10:42:21 PM
They were a decent side in the old Division 1 when Frank Worthington was banging them in. Scored lots of goals as well.

he kept the teddy boy era alive :)
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 21, 2015, 10:43:47 PM
he kept the teddy boy era alive :)

Bigger quiff than Alvin Stardust.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 21, 2015, 10:46:43 PM
Bigger quiff than Alvin Stardust.

haha. he soon lost it tho...

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Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 21, 2015, 10:49:21 PM
haha. he soon lost it tho...

(http://www.performingartistes.co.uk/assets/photos/frank_worthington.jpg)

Fuckinell - he related to The Hedgehog?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Polledreng on February 22, 2015, 12:27:34 AM
They were a decent side in the old Division 1 when Frank Worthington was banging them in. Scored lots of goals as well.
they did have that Gary Lineker aswell
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Paddockoldie on February 22, 2015, 12:36:42 AM
Scored with a sublime piece of skill once that was worthy of the master Bergkamp. A magician with a ball.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 01:14:58 AM
they did have that Gary Lineker aswell

yeah, but a different era to frank :)

on the subject, 24 clubs! is that some kind of record?

Years   Team   Apps†   (Gls)†
1966–1972   Huddersfield Town   171   (41)
1972–1977   Leicester City   210   (72)
1977–1979   Bolton Wanderers   84   (35)
1979   → Philadelphia Fury (loan)   21   (10)
1979–1982   Birmingham City   75   (29)
1980   → Mjällby AIF (loan)   12   (4)
1981   → Tampa Bay Rowdies (loan)   26   (11)
1982   Leeds United   32   (14)
1982–1983   Sunderland   19   (2)
1983–1984   Southampton   34   (4)
1984–1985   Brighton & Hove Albion   31   (7)
1985–1987   Tranmere Rovers   59   (21)
1987   Preston North End   23   (3)
1987–1988   Stockport County   19   (6)
1988   Cape Town Spurs      
1988   Chorley   3   (0)
1988–1989   Stalybridge Celtic      
1989   Galway United   2   (0)
1989   Weymouth   4   (1)
1989–1990   Radcliffe Borough      
1990   Guiseley   2   (0)
1990–1991   Hinckley Town      
1991   Cemaes Bay   1   (0)
1991–1992   Halifax Town (player-coach)   0   (0)
Total      828   (260)
National team
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Everton Mint on February 22, 2015, 02:30:20 AM
If we were a normal club, after winning 4-1 away in Europe we would come home and beat the bottom club comfortably.
But... (https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-1/p160x160/1607002_703926743005128_977590799_n.png?oh=7d193b48fc4f5e5f98d0513a00f7a923&oe=555244CA&__gda__=1431195490_6012895bff5f68da448bbd406a930a08)
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 03:04:29 AM
I have set my alarm so I don't miss a minute of this near-certain scoreless draw.

Kick off is at 9:05 isn't it?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: TSGun on February 22, 2015, 03:15:45 AM
PL games sandwiched between Euro cup ties never seem to be simple so just a win will do me. Method, style and final scoreline aren't important.

Great to see Baines return, our back four is starting to look really strong again and this may be the difference in the end. If we can keep them scoreless we should be able to nick a goal(or 2) and go on and win it.


Then we can rotate in Europe midweek, and have a free run at Arsenal next weekend, with little or no pressure on us, and given that they like to come out and play, and that we've been good there for the last couple of seasons, we might cause them plenty of problems with the renewed confidence.

Also we owe Leicester one, after they fucked us up at the start of the season and set us off on a bad foot.

I've been thinking about the Arsenal and Leicester games all season, what a difference if.......would love to return the favour to these two clubs.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: DanDan on February 22, 2015, 03:50:36 AM
I wonder if Naismith will ever get that assist from the Palace game!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Shogun on February 22, 2015, 03:55:32 AM
I wonder if Naismith will ever get that assist from the Palace game!
He never got given it officially!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 04:41:31 AM
Kick off is at 9:05 isn't it?

yep
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: DanDan on February 22, 2015, 07:21:13 AM
He never got given it officially!

Who gives them out officially then? So nobody assisted that goal officially?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Shogun on February 22, 2015, 07:23:09 AM
Who gives them out officially then? So nobody assisted that goal officially?

I go by whoever the FourFourTwo (opta powered) app gives it to. Speroni diverted the ball in a different direction onto Lukaku so it isn't counted as an assist from Naismith.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: TheRam on February 22, 2015, 08:22:18 AM
Some of his goals have been chalked off too.

Think about 3 in total?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Shogun on February 22, 2015, 08:50:13 AM
Some of his goals have been chalked off too.

Think about 3 in total?

QPR and Wolfsburg off the top of my head. The stats don't do his season justice really.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Polledreng on February 22, 2015, 12:31:00 PM
yeah, but a different era to frank :)

on the subject, 24 clubs! is that some kind of record?

Years   Team   Apps†   (Gls)†
1966–1972   Huddersfield Town   171   (41)
1972–1977   Leicester City   210   (72)
1977–1979   Bolton Wanderers   84   (35)
1979   → Philadelphia Fury (loan)   21   (10)
1979–1982   Birmingham City   75   (29)
1980   → Mjällby AIF (loan)   12   (4)
1981   → Tampa Bay Rowdies (loan)   26   (11)
1982   Leeds United   32   (14)
1982–1983   Sunderland   19   (2)
1983–1984   Southampton   34   (4)
1984–1985   Brighton & Hove Albion   31   (7)
1985–1987   Tranmere Rovers   59   (21)
1987   Preston North End   23   (3)
1987–1988   Stockport County   19   (6)
1988   Cape Town Spurs      
1988   Chorley   3   (0)
1988–1989   Stalybridge Celtic      
1989   Galway United   2   (0)
1989   Weymouth   4   (1)
1989–1990   Radcliffe Borough      
1990   Guiseley   2   (0)
1990–1991   Hinckley Town      
1991   Cemaes Bay   1   (0)
1991–1992   Halifax Town (player-coach)   0   (0)
Total      828   (260)
National team
Has to say he was some person that Frank. Loved him but didn't know he played for so many clubs. Has to be a rekord  ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Sir Stealth on February 22, 2015, 03:07:42 PM
Hope Leicester don't try and West Brom the shit out of us!

Would be really disappointing not to follow up Thursday's great win with another win here
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: TheTone on February 22, 2015, 05:09:18 PM
ya they play 5 at the back this crowd, its going to take a bit of magic to open them up, hopefully we can do it early and get ourselves to 30 points, results went decent for us yesterday
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 05:21:42 PM
Kick off is at 9:05 isn't it?

out of order, blarg :)
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: velimski on February 22, 2015, 05:32:40 PM
yeah, but a different era to frank :)

on the subject, 24 clubs! is that some kind of record?

Years   Team   Apps†   (Gls)†
1966–1972   Huddersfield Town   171   (41)
1972–1977   Leicester City   210   (72)
1977–1979   Bolton Wanderers   84   (35)
1979   → Philadelphia Fury (loan)   21   (10)
1979–1982   Birmingham City   75   (29)
1980   → Mjällby AIF (loan)   12   (4)
1981   → Tampa Bay Rowdies (loan)   26   (11)
1982   Leeds United   32   (14)
1982–1983   Sunderland   19   (2)
1983–1984   Southampton   34   (4)
1984–1985   Brighton & Hove Albion   31   (7)
1985–1987   Tranmere Rovers   59   (21)
1987   Preston North End   23   (3)
1987–1988   Stockport County   19   (6)
1988   Cape Town Spurs      
1988   Chorley   3   (0)
1988–1989   Stalybridge Celtic      
1989   Galway United   2   (0)
1989   Weymouth   4   (1)
1989–1990   Radcliffe Borough      
1990   Guiseley   2   (0)
1990–1991   Hinckley Town      
1991   Cemaes Bay   1   (0)
1991–1992   Halifax Town (player-coach)   0   (0)
Total      828   (260)
National team

Steve Claridge says hi


Years
Team Apps† (Gls)†

1983–1984
Fareham Town 13 (2)

1984–1985
Bournemouth 7 (1)

1985–1988
Weymouth 110 (28)

1988
Crystal Palace 0 (0)

1988–1990
Aldershot 62 (19)

1990–1992
Cambridge United 79 (28)

1992
Luton Town 16 (2)

1992–1994
Cambridge United 53 (18)

1994–1996
Birmingham City 88 (35)

1996–1998
Leicester City 63 (17)

1998
→ Portsmouth (loan) 10 (2)

1998
Wolverhampton Wanderers 5 (0)

1998–2001
Portsmouth 104 (34)

2001
→ Millwall (loan) 6 (3)

2001–2003
Millwall 85 (26)

2003–2004
Weymouth 47 (24)

2004
Brighton & Hove Albion 5 (0)

2004–2005
Brentford 4 (0)

2005
→ Wycombe Wanderers (loan) 4 (0)

2005
Wycombe Wanderers 15 (4)

2005
Millwall 0 (0)

2005
Gillingham 1 (0)

2005–2006
Bradford City 26 (5)

2006
→ Walsall (loan) 7 (1)

2006–2007
Bournemouth 1 (0)

2007
Worthing 1 (0)

2007
Harrow Borough 4 (2)

2009
Weymouth 1 (0)

2011–2012
Gosport Borough 11 (4)

Total
 828 (255)
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 05:36:51 PM
Steve Claridge says hi


Years
Team Apps† (Gls)†

1983–1984
Fareham Town 13 (2)

1984–1985
Bournemouth 7 (1)

1985–1988
Weymouth 110 (28)

1988
Crystal Palace 0 (0)

1988–1990
Aldershot 62 (19)

1990–1992
Cambridge United 79 (28)

1992
Luton Town 16 (2)

1992–1994
Cambridge United 53 (18)

1994–1996
Birmingham City 88 (35)

1996–1998
Leicester City 63 (17)

1998
→ Portsmouth (loan) 10 (2)

1998
Wolverhampton Wanderers 5 (0)

1998–2001
Portsmouth 104 (34)

2001
→ Millwall (loan) 6 (3)

2001–2003
Millwall 85 (26)

2003–2004
Weymouth 47 (24)

2004
Brighton & Hove Albion 5 (0)

2004–2005
Brentford 4 (0)

2005
→ Wycombe Wanderers (loan) 4 (0)

2005
Wycombe Wanderers 15 (4)

2005
Millwall 0 (0)

2005
Gillingham 1 (0)

2005–2006
Bradford City 26 (5)

2006
→ Walsall (loan) 7 (1)

2006–2007
Bournemouth 1 (0)

2007
Worthing 1 (0)

2007
Harrow Borough 4 (2)

2009
Weymouth 1 (0)

2011–2012
Gosport Borough 11 (4)

Total
 828 (255)


a few repeats there   :hmph:

























even so, nice one   8) 
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 05:39:21 PM
6 clubs in the same year (2005). was that ever allowed?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: velimski on February 22, 2015, 05:44:11 PM
a few repeats there   :hmph:

even so, nice one   8) 

stick Jefferson Louis into Google. I don't really want to clog this page up any more!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 05:48:15 PM
stick Jefferson Louis into Google. I don't really want to clog this page up any more!

ever get the feeling that his face didn't fit at a few clubs :)
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 06:06:12 PM
stick Jefferson Louis into Google. I don't really want to clog this page up any more!

@simon paul

i've often wondered about this.

does long text - apart from annoying some people - become a problem for the site/server? is memory ever an issue?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Simon Paul on February 22, 2015, 06:08:45 PM
@simon paul

i've often wondered about this.

does long text - apart from annoying some people - become a problem for the site/server? is memory ever an issue?

not really mate

you'd have to put a good few thousand words in to get to that point, around the 20,000 mark I think it was when I read about someone else having a problem, but don't think we'd get to that!

in an old version of the software, long threads posed a problem to the database, but that issue has been resolved now and again would need to get to about a million pages before it caused any problems

our server is boss anyway though, so even then it'd probably plough through it regardless!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 06:11:42 PM
not really mate

you'd have to put a good few thousand words in to get to that point, around the 20,000 mark I think it was when I read about someone else having a problem, but don't think we'd get to that!

in an old version of the software, long threads posed a problem to the database, but that issue has been resolved now and again would need to get to about a million pages before it caused any problems

our server is boss anyway though, so even then it'd probably plough through it regardless!

It can even handle MC's long explanations too.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 06:12:25 PM
out of order, blarg :)

I've been up since 6. Lazy bastard lol
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Alex6691 on February 22, 2015, 06:24:17 PM
First game this season today, can't wait! On my way to the ground :)
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 06:26:14 PM
anyway, tune in to sky @ 1pm, so you can listen to the pundits discuss the shite's game before we kick off. always happens. twats.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Gash on February 22, 2015, 06:36:47 PM
anyway, tune in to sky @ 1pm, so you can listen to the pundits discuss the shite's game before we kick off. always happens. twats.

This gets explained every time someone moans about it. Surely people know the format by now?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 06:38:21 PM
This gets explained every time someone moans about it. Surely people know the format by now?

well aware of the format. never gets any easier to swallow :)
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Gash on February 22, 2015, 07:06:56 PM
It's the same every Sunday regardless of who's playing.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cozzie on February 22, 2015, 07:07:04 PM
Happy with that team. Think naismith needs a rest though.

Good to see lennon getting the start and baines back in.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Shogun on February 22, 2015, 07:08:07 PM
Can't deal with pundits these days anyway. Just watch spurs v West Ham
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Sir Stealth on February 22, 2015, 07:08:37 PM
Wow Leicester look like they are playing the most defensive starting line up seen at Goodison since the Walter Smith days!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bluedylan on February 22, 2015, 07:08:42 PM
What is the team?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Shogun on February 22, 2015, 07:10:19 PM

What is the team?

Everton and Leicester
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Shogun on February 22, 2015, 07:10:43 PM
Team is as predicted in my OP
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Silas on February 22, 2015, 07:11:27 PM
Same as Thursday with Lennon in for Mirallas and Besic in for Barry
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 22, 2015, 07:13:41 PM
Howard, Baines, Jagielka (c), Stones, Coleman, McCarthy, Besic, Barkley, Naismith, Lennon, Lukaku. #EFCvLEI

subs: Joel, Gibson, Kone, Mirallas, Atsu, Garbutt, Alcaraz.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 22, 2015, 07:14:07 PM
Swap Naismith for Mirallas and that is boss.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Silas on February 22, 2015, 07:15:44 PM
Quite happy with Mirallas sitting it out tbh, if anyone was to come in would prefer it to be Atsu. He played 90 the other day and isn't in particularly great form.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Shogun on February 22, 2015, 07:15:52 PM
Mirallas is in my bad books at the moment, I'm glad he's benched.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: stirlingblue on February 22, 2015, 07:16:19 PM
Surprised nobody else took a punt on Cambiasso, he's too good for them.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 22, 2015, 07:17:50 PM
Quite happy with Mirallas sitting it out tbh, if anyone was to come in would prefer it to be Atsu. He played 90 the other day and isn't in particularly great form.

Yeah or Atsu in, just no idea why Roberto doesnt play two wingers haha!!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Tinga on February 22, 2015, 07:17:56 PM
Surprised nobody else took a punt on Cambiasso, he's too good for them.

Probably wanted stupid wages.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bluedylan on February 22, 2015, 07:20:51 PM
Excited to see the Besic-McCarthy-Barkley triangle in operation.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Silas on February 22, 2015, 07:22:11 PM
Yeah or Atsu in, just no idea why Roberto doesnt play two wingers haha!!

Yeah it's bloody weird!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: toffee_scot on February 22, 2015, 07:24:49 PM
That looks a good team selected although still have some reservations about Naismith and Barkley playing in attacking midfield at the same time. I can understand benching Mirallas but I'd like to see if Atsu can continue his AFCON form with Everton.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 07:29:59 PM
for non-sky people:

http://www.time4tv.com/2012/10/sky-sports-1.php (http://www.time4tv.com/2012/10/sky-sports-1.php)
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 07:30:09 PM
Lennon for a half and Atsu for a half could make for an interesting combination.  High energy players that are probably best used in short bursts.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Everton Mint on February 22, 2015, 07:34:31 PM
Baines is back in the team as well.

Atsu should be in not Lennon.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Silas on February 22, 2015, 07:35:11 PM
Baines is back in the team as well.

Atsu should be in not Lennon.

Oh aye forgot Baines was in!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: MarcusFenix on February 22, 2015, 07:38:10 PM
:O
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 07:39:56 PM
Should be the most dangerous bench we've had in ages.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: MarcusFenix on February 22, 2015, 07:40:17 PM
Oops wrong place

Acestream link for anyone that wants it

http://www.livefootballol.com/channel/sky-sports-1-acestream.html (http://www.livefootballol.com/channel/sky-sports-1-acestream.html)
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Django on February 22, 2015, 07:45:04 PM
Happy with that team. It's a game where we're gonna need pace and power and we've got that.

I'd rather Mirallas was in for Naismith but he's not been doing much to warrant a start as of late.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 07:47:25 PM
Happy with that team. It's a game where we're gonna need pace and power and we've got that.

I'd rather Mirallas was in for Naismith but he's not been doing much to warrant a start as of late.

At least we know Bainesy will get to take the pen, should one be awarded.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 07:48:04 PM
Baines is back in the team as well.

Atsu should be in not Lennon.

I think Lennon should as he has far more experience. Atsu will be good to bring on with his pace later on.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Django on February 22, 2015, 07:48:15 PM

At least we know Bainesy will get to take the pen, should one be awarded.
Good point. Think we'll have enough to be these. Get the ball moving on the slippery pitch!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bluedylan on February 22, 2015, 07:51:39 PM
Carragher getting schooled by Henry there.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Ari on February 22, 2015, 07:52:41 PM
I'm having much fun listening to Thierre Henry and Jaimie Carragher having a discussion about defending (John Stones) ... they're like a grown man talking to a kid.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 07:53:13 PM
Alex Song is an idiot.  But that is a fairly soft pen.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 07:53:14 PM
haha. 'phenomenal'.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bluedylan on February 22, 2015, 07:57:27 PM
Carragher trying to tell Henry that Piqué and Blanc have never dribbled with the ball. Henry saying 'er I've played with them both and they both did and were encouraged to at the right times'. Gobshite Carragher.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Ross on February 22, 2015, 07:57:55 PM
Carragher getting schooled by Henry there.

In English?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cassius on February 22, 2015, 08:00:05 PM
I'm in Thailand at the moment. You'd think Chang vs King Power would get a decent billing? I can't find the match to watch!!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 08:00:21 PM
NBCSN showing Leicester's formation, it looks like "9 at the back"
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cuttyblue on February 22, 2015, 08:01:00 PM
OT: when Spurs come to Goodison, I look forward to Mo snapping that overhyped tw@t Harry Kane in half. His 15 mins are up
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 08:01:14 PM
NBCSN showing Leicester's formation, it looks like "9 at the back"

Alarm worked then?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Ari on February 22, 2015, 08:02:50 PM
I did it again!!!

went looking for my phone when the players walked onto the pitch under Z-cars....
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 22, 2015, 08:03:14 PM
OT: when Spurs come to Goodison, I look forward to Mo snapping that overhyped tw@t Harry Kane in half. His 15 mins are up

Not overhyped, he is a good player
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 08:03:16 PM
Alarm worked then?

Indeed.  I was up anyway.  But it allowed me to stay in bed staring at the ceiling awhile without fear I'd fall back asleep and miss something.

And Harry Kane is lucky as fuck not to be wearing the goat's horns.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 08:03:33 PM
I'm in Thailand at the moment. You'd think Chang vs King Power would get a decent billing? I can't find the match to watch!!


http://www.time4tv.com/2012/10/sky-sports-1.php (http://www.time4tv.com/2012/10/sky-sports-1.php)
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 22, 2015, 08:04:24 PM
any streams for sky? that one from Blob wont work for me


Got one
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 08:05:47 PM
Not overhyped, he is a good player

He'll be worse than Barkley next season once he's found out.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 22, 2015, 08:05:49 PM
Three centre halves vs lukaku. .  Nice
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 08:06:42 PM
Perhaps they will open up a bit.  Kinda late in the winter for them to settle for a point.  There's no booby prize for finishing 19th instead of 20th.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cuttyblue on February 22, 2015, 08:06:48 PM
Not overhyped, he is a good player

He's been hyped well beyond "good". Anyway, not important now I guess.

COYB, possession
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Silas on February 22, 2015, 08:06:52 PM
any streams for sky? that one from Blob wont work for me


Got one

Link me up Lizz?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cozzie on February 22, 2015, 08:06:55 PM
Certainly set up defensively there pearson.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 08:07:55 PM
More defensive line up but full on attack atm.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: The Analog Kid on February 22, 2015, 08:07:58 PM
OT: when Spurs come to Goodison, I look forward to Mo snapping that overhyped tw@t Harry Kane in half. His 15 mins are up

Over-hyped?

Top scorer in the league? He needs about two minutes of the game to get a chance and stick it in the net.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 08:08:33 PM
Link me up Lizz?

still working for me...

http://www.time4tv.com/2012/10/sky-sports-1.php (http://www.time4tv.com/2012/10/sky-sports-1.php)
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 22, 2015, 08:08:52 PM
Link me up Lizz?

not the best picture http://cricfree.sx/sky-sports-1-live-stream (http://cricfree.sx/sky-sports-1-live-stream)
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 08:09:01 PM
http://www.freestreams.eu/soccer/everton-fc-vs-leicester-city-sw1bive# (http://www.freestreams.eu/soccer/everton-fc-vs-leicester-city-sw1bive#)
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: velimski on February 22, 2015, 08:09:49 PM
Link me up Lizz?

http://www.oleoletv.ws/watch/live/streaming/online/free/tv-vivo/1/1010696/february-22-2015/everton-fc-leicester-city-football-england-premier-league.html (http://www.oleoletv.ws/watch/live/streaming/online/free/tv-vivo/1/1010696/february-22-2015/everton-fc-leicester-city-football-england-premier-league.html)
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: MmmblueBernard on February 22, 2015, 08:10:01 PM
my PC reckons @blob (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=23)'s link has got bad aids.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 22, 2015, 08:10:42 PM
my PC reckons @blob (http://www.nsno.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=23)'s link has got bad aids.

mine too ha
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cuttyblue on February 22, 2015, 08:11:48 PM
Over-hyped?

Top scorer in the league? He needs about two minutes of the game to get a chance and stick it in the net.

I realize I am conversing with a lot of England fans.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 22, 2015, 08:12:01 PM
Konchesky & Huth.........c'monnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: The Analog Kid on February 22, 2015, 08:12:44 PM
Pitch looks fuckin knackered. Expect another 3G pitch thread.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: The Analog Kid on February 22, 2015, 08:13:21 PM
Konchesky & Huth.........c'monnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

Ale-ouse defense.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 22, 2015, 08:13:26 PM
I realize I am conversing with a lot of England fans.

haha nothing to do with England, just dont think he is over rated/ hyped. He is a good player.

Anyone, Everton...
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: The Analog Kid on February 22, 2015, 08:14:42 PM
I realize I am conversing with a lot of England fans.

Not at all. Tweny-five goals speaks for itself, especially given the fact he cost them fuck all.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 08:14:56 PM
Going to need that third cup of coffee...
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: sam of the south on February 22, 2015, 08:15:28 PM
Should've had a go, Lennon
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: TheRam on February 22, 2015, 08:15:56 PM
This is poor
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 08:16:15 PM
Nice to see that Thursday wasn't a one-off for Ross.  He's back.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 08:16:19 PM
leicester looking lively...

Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: sam of the south on February 22, 2015, 08:16:34 PM
This is poor

Best league in the world apparently, Ram
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: The Analog Kid on February 22, 2015, 08:16:39 PM
John Stones looks like he's going to have one of those "cool-as-you-like" games.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 08:17:07 PM
Nice to see that Thursday wasn't a one-off for Ross.  He's back.

ha. i thought what a poor start he's had.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: The Analog Kid on February 22, 2015, 08:17:10 PM
This is poor

10 minutes in?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cuttyblue on February 22, 2015, 08:17:11 PM
Lennon still faster than sh#t off a shovel. Should have done better with the eventual cross tho
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 08:19:19 PM
Really?  I thought Ross has ignited our only two real chances of the match, and hasn't really put a foot wrong otherwise.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: montanatoffeefan on February 22, 2015, 08:19:29 PM
Lennon still faster than sh#t off a shovel. Should have done better with the eventual cross tho

You've just summed up his career nicely, 'shit' reference and all.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: sam of the south on February 22, 2015, 08:20:13 PM
That is a packed defence.

Need to score to draw them out.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 22, 2015, 08:20:14 PM
Ale-ouse defense.

Aye. Morgan as well. Lennon/Coleman should run rings round them.......
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 08:20:20 PM
I like Lennon. Not having the best of games but hes always involved. Proper workrate and a willingness to defend. Been a while since weve had a winger who wants to contribute for the full game
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: sam of the south on February 22, 2015, 08:20:51 PM
Great pressing lead to that chance.

Why don't we do it all the time...
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: keverton1971 on February 22, 2015, 08:21:01 PM
http://neolive.net/11914/1/Watch-Everton-FC-vs-Leicester-City-/ (http://neolive.net/11914/1/Watch-Everton-FC-vs-Leicester-City-/)
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 08:22:35 PM
Shit, I really wanted Mo to score.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Ari on February 22, 2015, 08:23:36 PM
looking forward to hear what Henry has to say about Besic...
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: TheRam on February 22, 2015, 08:24:50 PM
10 minutes in?

19 now.

Still poor
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Amata on February 22, 2015, 08:24:59 PM
We need to move it quicker, giving the defence too much time to get organised
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bluedylan on February 22, 2015, 08:25:02 PM
Our play breaks down with Naismith so many times in so many games.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: TheRam on February 22, 2015, 08:26:14 PM
That's poor from lukaku.

Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: TheRam on February 22, 2015, 08:26:41 PM
Our play breaks down with Naismith so many times in so many games.

Why is he constantly falling over?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 08:26:56 PM
And I stand by my assertion that Ross is playing well.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: stirlingblue on February 22, 2015, 08:27:07 PM
Barkley should have played it earlier, Lukaku didn't drift forward the line stepped up.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 08:27:23 PM
19 now.

Still poor

it aint great, and they've come with a pearson 1-9-1  mentality. hard to break them down.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Nicco on February 22, 2015, 08:28:13 PM
Why is he constantly falling over?
Gravity..?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 22, 2015, 08:28:16 PM
Leighton James :snigger:
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 08:28:53 PM
Well, that's 3 points for the conversion.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 08:30:57 PM
ffs.........
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 08:31:20 PM
ok, that kind of sucked a lot
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: toffee_scot on February 22, 2015, 08:31:21 PM
At least we are getting forward I suppose
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 08:32:06 PM
I dont think weve been too bad. Its a bit drab but we are in complete control and have had a few reasonable situations
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: stirlingblue on February 22, 2015, 08:32:31 PM
We're doing better between the lines than normal, Besic has played some lovely balls round the corner.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bluedylan on February 22, 2015, 08:33:29 PM
I dont think weve been too bad. Its a bit drab but we are in complete control and have had a few reasonable situations

I agree. Maybe just a bit quicker. It's only a slight adjustment. We don't want to go too frenetic and start losing the ball all over the shop.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 08:33:51 PM
I don't think Huth wants a piece of Big Rom.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 22, 2015, 08:34:10 PM
Its going to be poor, because we are playing a team with every man behind the ball, just got to be patient. A goal will come
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Ross on February 22, 2015, 08:35:39 PM
Snoozefest
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bluedylan on February 22, 2015, 08:35:52 PM
Composure lads, composure.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: sam of the south on February 22, 2015, 08:36:04 PM
Good from Lennon, poor from Rom and Ross
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: toffee_scot on February 22, 2015, 08:36:21 PM
That's another ball flying over the stadium
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 22, 2015, 08:36:22 PM
Barkley thinks he is playing rugby today
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Zoolander on February 22, 2015, 08:36:28 PM
Kinell Barkleys playing well but sure ain't got his shooting boots on!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 22, 2015, 08:36:31 PM
Wasteful.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: The Analog Kid on February 22, 2015, 08:36:40 PM
I dont think weve been too bad. Its a bit drab but we are in complete control and have had a few reasonable situations

Loving the new MLT.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: stirlingblue on February 22, 2015, 08:36:48 PM
Good from Lennon, poor from Rom and Ross

Good ball from Ross in the build up.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: MmmblueBernard on February 22, 2015, 08:37:04 PM
Come on Ross lad. Turn it down from 11.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: The Analog Kid on February 22, 2015, 08:37:43 PM
Is Barkley wearing a knackered arl pair of Nicholas Deakins or Patrick Cox's?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: stirlingblue on February 22, 2015, 08:38:45 PM
The wind is playing havok here.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 08:40:01 PM
it's no real surprise that leicester are working their socks off.  league's whipping boys, facing almost certain relegation. life and death stuff for them.

the patience call is the right one, even if it is fucking frustrating...and the poor shooting isn't helping us.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: sam of the south on February 22, 2015, 08:40:01 PM
Such a lack of movement here
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Amata on February 22, 2015, 08:40:28 PM
No movement for McCarthy there
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: sam of the south on February 22, 2015, 08:42:06 PM
Rom is looking hungover at the moment
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Ari on February 22, 2015, 08:42:10 PM
Such a lack of movement here

Besic is moving
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: TheRam on February 22, 2015, 08:42:26 PM
Nah, this is proper dreadful stuff.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cuttyblue on February 22, 2015, 08:42:49 PM
No movement for McCarthy there

The players are bunched up and static. Spread out, make runs!

Grr...
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bluedylan on February 22, 2015, 08:44:11 PM
Get off your fucking line you immobile fucker!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: sam of the south on February 22, 2015, 08:45:03 PM
Besic is moving

Yes, Ari, Besic is a mover, you're right.

As is Naismith to be fair to him.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blueToffee on February 22, 2015, 08:45:29 PM
Seems like another post Europa hangover at the moment. We have at least had some decent chances, but so have they. All the zip in our play from Thursday seems to have gone which is the real shame.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: sam of the south on February 22, 2015, 08:45:50 PM
Get off your fucking line you immobile fucker!

He does make me nervous, BD
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 22, 2015, 08:46:30 PM
just need urgency, speed and to pass forward not fucking sideways
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: The Analog Kid on February 22, 2015, 08:46:36 PM
Sunday morning Liverpool League stuff at the mo. A bit rough.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 22, 2015, 08:46:43 PM
Get the plastic pitch on at halftime Bobby lad.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 08:47:17 PM
At least we only have to suffer through one of these Prem slugfests before we return to Europa fun.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bluedylan on February 22, 2015, 08:47:32 PM
Nothing to do with hangovers or EL, it's tactical. If Young Boys had setup like this, we'd have had the same problems. They were naive as fuck.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: TheRam on February 22, 2015, 08:47:44 PM
Missing Barry.

Besic hasn't impressed in that deep lying playmaker role
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Ross on February 22, 2015, 08:48:04 PM
Just no urgency to our passing or pressing completely the opposite to Thursday
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 08:48:05 PM
besic getting angry. yellow soon :)
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 08:49:16 PM
Pretty sure Besic gets out of bed in the morning angry.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blueToffee on February 22, 2015, 08:49:58 PM
Nothing to do with hangovers or EL, it's tactical. If Young Boys had setup like this, we'd have had the same problems. They were naive as fuck.

There is certainly that too, any team who comes and sits back we have a really hard time breaking down this season.

That said...I do think our energy levels post Europa (we've had some pretty grim results in those games too) have been lacking.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Amata on February 22, 2015, 08:50:08 PM
This is abysmal now
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: TheRam on February 22, 2015, 08:50:21 PM
As bd said, it's tactical.

Like most teams that come to Goodison, they've camped 11 behind the ball and doubled up on the wide areas, meaning there's no space to get in behind.

Only looked a threat when they've come forward and we've hit them on the break with Coleman and Lennon.

Naismith offers absolutely fuck all in these games. 
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cuttyblue on February 22, 2015, 08:50:25 PM
I'm already starting to think about what subs I want to see on 60mins
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: MmmblueBernard on February 22, 2015, 08:50:46 PM
Missing Barry.

Besic hasn't impressed in that deep lying playmaker role

Hasn't really put a foot wrong TBH.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 08:50:46 PM
There is certainly that too, any team who comes and sits back we have a really hard time breaking down this season.

That said...I do think our energy levels post Europa (we've had some pretty grim results in those games too) have been lacking.

Which is ridiculous, they've had 3 days off in between.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bluedylan on February 22, 2015, 08:51:17 PM
Love to see a brave HT sub, and bring Kone on and go two up top.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 08:51:26 PM
Need to play the season ticket ad at half time.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: stirlingblue on February 22, 2015, 08:51:40 PM
Move Barkley deeper for one of the midfield two, don't need two holding players at home to Leicester.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: sam of the south on February 22, 2015, 08:51:53 PM
Just no urgency to our passing or pressing completely the opposite to Thursday

If you are a side who don't do much running in training, you are going to struggle with two games in a week.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 08:51:58 PM
Stones saved our asses from utter humiliation.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Shogun on February 22, 2015, 08:52:15 PM
Difficult half of football.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Goughie on February 22, 2015, 08:52:16 PM
Poor team selection today.
Should have been lennon and Atsu on thw wings and 1 of Naismith or Barkley. Should have also started with Gibson in the Barry role, more control and discpline
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 22, 2015, 08:52:24 PM
Stones wall.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 08:52:27 PM
a half best forgotten...
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: TheRam on February 22, 2015, 08:52:27 PM
Hasn't really put a foot wrong TBH.

Takes too long to release the ball for me.

His passing has been poor IMO.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Everton Mint on February 22, 2015, 08:52:32 PM
Shite that.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Tinga on February 22, 2015, 08:52:36 PM
Same old then.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 08:52:44 PM
Love to see a brave HT sub, and bring Kone on and go two up top.

Kone and Atsu for Lennon and Naisy
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blueToffee on February 22, 2015, 08:52:46 PM
Which is ridiculous, they've had 3 days off in between.

It is but it seems to be every single time. Makes no sense, but you can see why people make the link that Europa League equals poor league form.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on February 22, 2015, 08:53:13 PM
Just like WBA at home, probably will finish that way to
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: TheRam on February 22, 2015, 08:53:35 PM
Naismith has to come off.

Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: TheTone on February 22, 2015, 08:53:45 PM
Stones saved our asses from utter humiliation.

agreed, lucky to be nil nil, no intensity, no fight, need a few rockets up them at half time
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cozzie on February 22, 2015, 08:54:01 PM
Reverted to type there.

A bold sub at HT is needed.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 22, 2015, 08:54:26 PM
would take off Naismith and put Kone on, two up top.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Goaljira on February 22, 2015, 08:54:34 PM
Need Mirallas or Atsu on for Naismith.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: TheRam on February 22, 2015, 08:54:41 PM
He'll bring off Lennon most probably
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 08:55:01 PM
I don't think we look tired, more frustrated and dispirited.  Need to get some energy players onto the pitch.  Two of Kone, Atsu, Oviedo.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Tinga on February 22, 2015, 08:55:38 PM
Naismith is starting to remind me of the Moyes version.  shakeyheadman
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blueToffee on February 22, 2015, 08:55:40 PM
I think it's worth considering dropping one of the DMs, playing Barkley deeper (where in the PL he's had his best game this season) and bring Kone or Mirallas on.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: toffee_scot on February 22, 2015, 08:56:01 PM
Very dull and frustrating first half. Leicester certainly seem up for it. Not encouraging to hear the crowd boo.

At least there's another 45 minutes left, I expect Kone, Atsu and Mirallas to all feature at some point. Surely we can make out of counter attacking opportunities.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blueToffee on February 22, 2015, 08:56:48 PM
Our right side has been the most dangerous, I'd stick with Lennon and Coleman for now.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Silas on February 22, 2015, 08:57:16 PM
I don't think Naismith has been that bad tbh. Him and Barkley don't work together though. Lennon has disappointed so far.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Django on February 22, 2015, 08:57:39 PM
That season ticket advert is exceptionally honest.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Buck76 on February 22, 2015, 08:57:50 PM
http://www.stream2watch.me/sports/soccer/everton-fc-vs-leicester-city-live-stream (http://www.stream2watch.me/sports/soccer/everton-fc-vs-leicester-city-live-stream)



Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Goaljira on February 22, 2015, 08:58:52 PM
I can hear z cars?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: sam of the south on February 22, 2015, 08:59:05 PM
They are playing the advert  ;D
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 08:59:09 PM
Lennon has been ok, but he hasn't shown stamina beyond 45 minutes.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: TheRam on February 22, 2015, 08:59:13 PM
Henry making some very valid points re lukaku
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bluedylan on February 22, 2015, 08:59:29 PM
I think it's worth considering dropping one of the DMs, playing Barkley deeper (where in the PL he's had his best game this season) and bring Kone or Mirallas on.

Agreed. We need to occupy their defence more, and pin them back. Best way to do that is giving them an extra striker to worry about, and then you create spaces where Barkley could operate more effectively.

Martinez needs to grasp the nettle, and stop letting things happen. Impose yourself on the game as the manager and affect it.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 08:59:36 PM
it's the sky curse...

still plenty to play for, but i'll settle for a point if it carries on like this. how sad is that, playing a side 5 points adrift at the bottom of the table :(
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Polledreng on February 22, 2015, 08:59:53 PM
I don't think we look tired, more frustrated and dispirited.  Need to get some energy players onto the pitch.  Two of Kone, Atsu, Oviedo.
I know you like oviedo - but playing him when injured is a little too mutch
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 22, 2015, 09:01:00 PM
Still think we'll win. Kone for Naismith/Atsu for Lennon.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 09:01:06 PM
I know you like oviedo - but playing him when injured is a little too mutch

I honestly forgot.  It's too sad for my mind to process/accept.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Goaljira on February 22, 2015, 09:01:31 PM
It's fair enough Henry saying things like that, but he wasn't doing what he's said when he was 21?!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: TheTone on February 22, 2015, 09:01:36 PM
i'd put mirallas on the left, besic off, barkley into midfield and naisy up with rom, naisy could win this for us in the end
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 22, 2015, 09:02:13 PM
Henry making some very valid points re lukaku

Whats he said like?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Ross on February 22, 2015, 09:02:16 PM
If you are a side who don't do much running in training, you are going to struggle with two games in a week.

Yeah true, we should be passing it quicker though.

This slow slow sideways sideways slow backwards is nothing to do with Leicester tactics it's our own doing. They'll do this to the likes of Chelsea an Arsenal and they'll still attack them with pace and purpose.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: dazfrancis on February 22, 2015, 09:02:19 PM
Henry making some very valid points re lukaku
What's he saying?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 09:02:35 PM
Why a point is ok:

We won't get relegated, and we will still be in the CL next season as Europa League champions.  I will miss playing in Europa, though.  Thursdays have been good to us.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Amata on February 22, 2015, 09:03:48 PM
If we just move the ball faster we will create more chances.  I'd bring Naismith off for Mirallas/Atsu and tell the wingers to keep the width.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bluedylan on February 22, 2015, 09:05:08 PM
The reality is this tactic were facing is as old as football itself, and we've faced it so many times and had the same problems and we're still no nearer to looking like we have consistent solutions. And that fault can only lie with the manager.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Juanito on February 22, 2015, 09:05:43 PM
I know we won't see changes but would like to see Kone for Besic and Mirallas for Naismith. Its awful watching us sideways pass against a side 5 points adrift.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 09:05:51 PM
If only we could kick the ball at the goal instead of several yards above it.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: chang on February 22, 2015, 09:06:26 PM
Horrible to watch but we have had two very good chances. 0-0 draws won't keep Leicester up.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Goaljira on February 22, 2015, 09:07:07 PM
Whats he said like?

He's saying that Rom needs to be a bigger character that demands the ball all the time, and becomes the automatic choice for his teammates to pass too, which is all very well and good but at 21 Henry was still at Monaco?!  Give it two years and see where he is.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 22, 2015, 09:07:27 PM
I clocked the first fuck off barkley at six mins. Impressive
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 09:08:25 PM
Should have been a goal down there.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 09:08:27 PM
kinell...2 chances.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: sam of the south on February 22, 2015, 09:08:27 PM
Utterly dreadful
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bluedylan on February 22, 2015, 09:08:29 PM
Another Howard classic there.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Optimistic Blue on February 22, 2015, 09:08:39 PM
Ouch that was close

thank god leicester are shite like
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: TheRam on February 22, 2015, 09:08:39 PM
Poor from Howard
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 09:08:45 PM
Holy fuckballs, we get lucky again.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Amata on February 22, 2015, 09:08:57 PM
Terrible by Howard. If we conceede then its game over.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Ross on February 22, 2015, 09:09:06 PM
Well we got away with that
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 09:09:18 PM
Lukaku's having a mare. The amount of times he's been in possession or favorite for the ball to come away second best.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blueToffee on February 22, 2015, 09:09:19 PM
Let off.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Shogun on February 22, 2015, 09:09:32 PM
Goalkeeping 101 Howard - Push it away from danger
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: TheRam on February 22, 2015, 09:09:39 PM
In danger of losing this
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Amata on February 22, 2015, 09:09:55 PM
Leicester have started the 2nd half like we should have
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Shogun on February 22, 2015, 09:10:40 PM
Changes needed urgently.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 09:11:29 PM
In all seriousness...I'd be happy with the point now.  Almost ashamed to admit that.  But it's true.  Survive and get back to Europa.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Amata on February 22, 2015, 09:11:35 PM
Gibson??
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: TheRam on February 22, 2015, 09:11:57 PM
Fumes if he brings off Besic. But this is a good sub
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Ross on February 22, 2015, 09:12:03 PM
Hope this isn't another injury ffs
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 22, 2015, 09:12:26 PM
ffs whats the point in a DM swap?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bluedylan on February 22, 2015, 09:12:31 PM
Chance to bring Kone on....nah, go with Gibson. Cheers Roberto.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 09:12:37 PM
Wtf? McCarthy off for Gibson?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 22, 2015, 09:12:42 PM
Alehouse team should be ahead. Gibson on for McCarthy.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: hannu on February 22, 2015, 09:12:43 PM
anny decent streams?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 09:12:58 PM
GIBSON coming on?  The fuck?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Everton Mint on February 22, 2015, 09:13:10 PM
Gibson wtf ??
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 22, 2015, 09:13:21 PM
i fucking hate Howard
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 09:13:31 PM
gibson seems to be an odd sub. unless someone's carrying an injury.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 22, 2015, 09:14:00 PM
anny decent streams?

Nah, just realised mines 5 minutes behind.............parp.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: TheRam on February 22, 2015, 09:14:14 PM
Besic has slowed everything down.

Gibson will at least provide a Barry like present de and shift the ball forward and outwide a lot quicker
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 09:14:17 PM
anny decent streams?

Stick with what you haven't got. It's an awful game.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: sam of the south on February 22, 2015, 09:14:24 PM
How many challenged did we NOT get in there!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Paddockoldie on February 22, 2015, 09:14:37 PM
Bobby sort it!!! Your legacy shouldn't be FAC winner, relegated. Europa Cup Winner, relegated... time to cut the chat and see it for what it is... jesus fuckin christ!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blueToffee on February 22, 2015, 09:15:15 PM
Gibson and Atsu about to come on...for Besic (cue boos and someone else, probably Naismith or Lennon)
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 09:15:17 PM
I'm out of booze, and one can't buy more of that in NC on Sunday until noon.  FFS.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: sam of the south on February 22, 2015, 09:15:56 PM
Terrible sub (hope I'm proved wrong though)
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: toffee_scot on February 22, 2015, 09:16:04 PM
Barkley off Gibson on? Why?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Yobo2008 on February 22, 2015, 09:16:17 PM
Come on blues ffs this is terrible again
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 09:16:19 PM
This may give us better balance now.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 09:16:20 PM
risky subs. we'll see...
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 09:16:25 PM
Subs give me the sads.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 22, 2015, 09:16:50 PM
Two wingers which is good
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: TheRam on February 22, 2015, 09:16:53 PM
Right subs those.

Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cuttyblue on February 22, 2015, 09:16:55 PM
Barkley off Gibson on? Why?

Pointless sub! I despair!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Goaljira on February 22, 2015, 09:17:02 PM
Being a winger on and play him through the middle? Genius that.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Everton Mint on February 22, 2015, 09:17:07 PM
Big call them subs.. hope they work.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 09:18:00 PM
Pointless sub! I despair!

It will give us better balance. Right subs I think.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bluedylan on February 22, 2015, 09:18:02 PM
Haha. Boss player ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: sam of the south on February 22, 2015, 09:18:04 PM
Oh WOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Yobo2008 on February 22, 2015, 09:18:06 PM
:)
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: velimski on February 22, 2015, 09:18:07 PM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Amata on February 22, 2015, 09:18:07 PM
Rom done well there
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 09:18:11 PM
thank. fuck. for. that. 1-0
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 09:18:11 PM
Oh, thank God!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 09:18:15 PM
And it worked!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Azz on February 22, 2015, 09:18:18 PM
Two wingers which is good


Shame 1 is in the wrong position...
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: toffee_scot on February 22, 2015, 09:18:20 PM
Haha! I'll take that thanks!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Optimistic Blue on February 22, 2015, 09:18:20 PM
Get in! great subs bobby
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 22, 2015, 09:18:22 PM
fucking yesss
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Everton Mint on February 22, 2015, 09:18:26 PM
Yessssssssss !!!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Goaljira on February 22, 2015, 09:18:30 PM
Being a winger on and play him through the middle? Genius that.

See. I said it was genius..... :/
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 22, 2015, 09:18:50 PM
I'm out of booze, and one can't buy more of that in NC on Sunday until noon.  FFS.

Pass the dutchie.........1-0.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Nicco on February 22, 2015, 09:18:54 PM
So not deserved that!

But what a relief!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 22, 2015, 09:18:55 PM
great strength from Rom there
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: MmmblueBernard on February 22, 2015, 09:18:56 PM
I was gonna suggest taking off Naismith.

That would have been silly.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blueToffee on February 22, 2015, 09:19:07 PM
Get in!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: MmmblueBernard on February 22, 2015, 09:19:30 PM
great strength from Rom there

amazing seeing as he cant hold the ball up ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cuttyblue on February 22, 2015, 09:19:46 PM
Pointless sub! I despair!

Good sub RM! 😆

Nice finish Naisy. Total Steven f'ing Naismith, shite all game, won't sulk, keeps trying, good positioning and good finish
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 09:20:03 PM
I was gonna suggest taking off Naismith.

That would have been silly.

I was in the middle of typing it when he scored.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: toffee_scot on February 22, 2015, 09:20:19 PM
That goal seems to have given the team a lift
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Optimistic Blue on February 22, 2015, 09:20:23 PM
destorying them now
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 22, 2015, 09:20:54 PM
Roberto showing Brendan how to wear a scarf!!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Nicco on February 22, 2015, 09:21:21 PM
I was in the middle of typing it when he scored.
Keep on typing then ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Silas on February 22, 2015, 09:21:28 PM
Twitter was going nuts about them subs but I thought they were perfect choices, Gibson is a good passer and Atsu is already providing a threat.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bluedylan on February 22, 2015, 09:21:34 PM
Roberto showing Brendan how to wear a scarf!!

You and the bloody scarfs!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 09:21:50 PM
Keep on typing then ;)

But don't hit post ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Gash on February 22, 2015, 09:21:57 PM
Hindsight makes the last two or three pages fun to read. :)
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 09:22:11 PM
we suddenly look like a different outfit. amazing what a goal can do :)
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 09:22:55 PM
Atsu very lively, not playing the right final ball though.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: TheRam on February 22, 2015, 09:23:03 PM
Yep, as I said, Gibson has changed the game with his distribution of the ball.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Everton Mint on February 22, 2015, 09:23:11 PM
Gibson's control and passing is an improvement.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bluedylan on February 22, 2015, 09:23:34 PM
Need a second though ASAP, don't fancy last 15 clinging onto this and sections of the crowd getting more twattish by the second.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: pjk on February 22, 2015, 09:23:45 PM
A wins a win but it's not pretty is it. I missed the goal the stream went down, but hopefully it will wake them up and get the crowd behind them.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 22, 2015, 09:23:53 PM
You and the bloody scarfs!

Hahaha!! I like a man who can wear a scarf correctly!! ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 09:23:56 PM
Keep on typing then ;)

I doubt I was the only one, just the only to have confessed so far! :D

Nice rebuttal by Big Rom to Henry's criticism basically saying he needed to be more selfish.  In my view, a 21-year old striker with a team-first attitude is a special thing to have, and why he will be an Everton captain one day.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 09:24:24 PM
useless cunt, howard :(
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 09:24:27 PM
Didn't see that coming. Fuck.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bwana on February 22, 2015, 09:24:30 PM
FFS HOWARD!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Goaljira on February 22, 2015, 09:24:34 PM
Get Howard off now.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: pjk on February 22, 2015, 09:24:39 PM
Fuck. Come on lads.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: sam of the south on February 22, 2015, 09:24:40 PM
I was just typing that we definitely need a second
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Ross on February 22, 2015, 09:24:43 PM
Oh fuck right off
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: toffee_scot on February 22, 2015, 09:24:47 PM
Fucking typical, Howard as well
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bluedylan on February 22, 2015, 09:24:58 PM
Great work Tim you fucking abomination.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 09:25:01 PM
I was just typing that we definitely need a second

Stop typing ;)
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Optimistic Blue on February 22, 2015, 09:25:06 PM
David Nugent ffs
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Ari on February 22, 2015, 09:25:14 PM
Robles would have taken this... another howling from Howard sry to say
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 09:25:18 PM
Words fail me.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Yobo2008 on February 22, 2015, 09:25:18 PM
Ffs here we go again
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cuttyblue on February 22, 2015, 09:25:19 PM
The end of Tim Howard 😒
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blueToffee on February 22, 2015, 09:25:23 PM
F sake.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 22, 2015, 09:25:25 PM
sorry but what the fuck is Howard doing
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: BrotherEstapol on February 22, 2015, 09:25:34 PM
Twitter was going nuts about them subs but I thought they were perfect choices, Gibson is a good passer and Atsu is already providing a threat.
I think people might have been upset cause it looked at first that it was just Gibbo for Barkley which would have been very negative.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 09:25:49 PM
Howards got to go this summer. Last season he was good but for me its the only time hes been better than average. Hes been shocking this season. Think you could point at him for at least 10 goals this season.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Shogun on February 22, 2015, 09:25:56 PM
How many points is he going to cost us this season. Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blueToffee on February 22, 2015, 09:25:59 PM
Poor by Howard.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 09:26:06 PM
Ffs here we go again

Where were you for our goal?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: NomadskiEFC on February 22, 2015, 09:26:12 PM

Hindsight makes the last two or three pages fun to read. :)

It depends how much hindsight your using!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: hannu on February 22, 2015, 09:26:16 PM
am fucking fed up of this shite, might aswell not watch any league matches this season, might just watch the europa and thats it
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Juanito on February 22, 2015, 09:26:23 PM
I have had enough of Tim Howard. Been crap all season and cost us important points. 
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Django on February 22, 2015, 09:26:26 PM
Christian Atsu is shite.

Tim Howard is a despicable goalkeeper. Joel Robles should be fucking fuming.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: sam of the south on February 22, 2015, 09:26:59 PM
How are they going on about Naismith's being deflected, but not Nugent's?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 09:27:09 PM
How did he miss????
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 09:27:17 PM
jesus. over the top again, ffs.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Yobo2008 on February 22, 2015, 09:27:17 PM
Got to score ffs
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cozzie on February 22, 2015, 09:27:37 PM
Awful from howard.

Granted it got a fortunate bounce still bad.

Oh rom ffs.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: hannu on February 22, 2015, 09:27:38 PM
how Rom, fucking how
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: sam of the south on February 22, 2015, 09:27:38 PM
Bloody hell
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bluedylan on February 22, 2015, 09:27:45 PM
Are we at the stage where we can definitively say bringing Howard back in was an awful mistake by the manager, as many of us said?

I think we are.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: djws1788 on February 22, 2015, 09:27:46 PM
how did Rom miss that? nice link up with Atsu though.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Ross on February 22, 2015, 09:27:46 PM
Should have been 2-1
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 09:27:51 PM
Should score.

Great play from Lukaku. Hes linking it well. Bit of a poor finish though
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: MmmblueBernard on February 22, 2015, 09:27:52 PM
Did the hard bit. Rom you plonker
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: BrotherEstapol on February 22, 2015, 09:28:08 PM
Damn n that was close
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blueToffee on February 22, 2015, 09:28:09 PM
Oh Lukaku.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blueToffee on February 22, 2015, 09:28:39 PM
He's had some chances today.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: MmmblueBernard on February 22, 2015, 09:28:55 PM
Are we at the stage where we can definitively say bringing Howard back in was an awful mistake by the manager, as many of us said?

I think we are.

No

Hes damned if he does and if he doesnt come off his line to cut out the cross.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Amata on February 22, 2015, 09:28:56 PM
Much better now
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: djws1788 on February 22, 2015, 09:29:06 PM
we've got a few more chances in us, just got to finish one.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cuttyblue on February 22, 2015, 09:29:14 PM
Going to have to reach down deep to win this one.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 09:29:18 PM
Playing well now. Knocking it about.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: griff969 on February 22, 2015, 09:29:18 PM
Completely Howard's fault, just like the goal against Young Boys. He should have been made to wait to get his place back, Robles did nothing to lose it.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Ross on February 22, 2015, 09:29:36 PM
Looking better though since the changes, we'll win this now we've upped our tempo
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 09:29:52 PM
At least we have some fight now.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: sam of the south on February 22, 2015, 09:29:54 PM
Wow, a keeper who catches the ball
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Optimistic Blue on February 22, 2015, 09:30:36 PM
Feel like im watching Rugby league with all these shots going over the bar, hahahah lol x
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: NomadskiEFC on February 22, 2015, 09:31:34 PM
Put your hard hats on
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 09:31:35 PM
Oh fuck off.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 09:31:45 PM
now level, we look poor again. help!

and there's leicester's 2nd. fuck this.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: griff969 on February 22, 2015, 09:31:47 PM
Should sub Howard right now
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Yobo2008 on February 22, 2015, 09:31:50 PM
We are in a world of trouble this season.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: toffee_scot on February 22, 2015, 09:31:51 PM
Tim Howard again!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 09:31:52 PM
Holy Christ, Howard.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Amata on February 22, 2015, 09:31:53 PM
Howard
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Optimistic Blue on February 22, 2015, 09:31:59 PM
Oh tim
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bwana on February 22, 2015, 09:31:59 PM
Seriously Howard. Never again please...
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cuttyblue on February 22, 2015, 09:32:01 PM
Booooooo
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Goaljira on February 22, 2015, 09:32:09 PM
What the fuck is Howard doing.  What the fuck.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bluedylan on February 22, 2015, 09:32:14 PM
Oh my fucking God. Dying to see people defend that.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Django on February 22, 2015, 09:32:19 PM
The sooner that cunt joins ISIS, the better.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cozzie on February 22, 2015, 09:32:20 PM
Why did howard come back in.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Nicco on February 22, 2015, 09:32:29 PM
Take him OUT !!!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: djws1788 on February 22, 2015, 09:32:31 PM
fuck off Howard
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Ross on February 22, 2015, 09:32:40 PM
Awful just fuckin dreadful
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: hannu on February 22, 2015, 09:32:43 PM
turned it off, not being funny martinez is fucking wank, need shot of him
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 09:32:45 PM
another stinker  from rom...
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: sam of the south on February 22, 2015, 09:32:46 PM
He should never have been allowed back in the team so quickly.

And Rom is having an absolute mare.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 09:32:56 PM
Revolting play, just awful.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blueToffee on February 22, 2015, 09:32:56 PM
Howard shouldn't get another game this season.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 09:33:11 PM
We should be 3-2 up but for Howard and Lukaku.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 22, 2015, 09:33:13 PM
jags waits 5 mins to pass the fucking ball out, and makes the pass everyone knew he would make at the end of waiting, with the player being under pressure. He fucking caused this shit. And then out celeb keeper fucks up again. fuck off
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: griff969 on February 22, 2015, 09:33:14 PM
All the 'big clubs' are queuing up Rom
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cozzie on February 22, 2015, 09:33:19 PM
Really one of those days. Its not like we havent had chances.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 09:33:23 PM
Hes poor. Its got to the stage where its not an opinion any more, its a fact. Hes costing us football games and lots of them

Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: MmmblueBernard on February 22, 2015, 09:33:27 PM
Wheels are coming off lol
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: TheRam on February 22, 2015, 09:33:28 PM
Never want to see him play for Everton ever again.

Martinez has royally fucked up bringing him back.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Optimistic Blue on February 22, 2015, 09:33:30 PM
The sooner that cunt joins ISIS, the better.

what the actual fuck!?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Ari on February 22, 2015, 09:33:50 PM
thank you for the service Tim.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Juanito on February 22, 2015, 09:33:50 PM
Robles would have got that. Howard has to be dropped. 
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: pjk on February 22, 2015, 09:33:53 PM
No stream but sounds like Howard is having a nightmare, and Roms missing a few.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Nicco on February 22, 2015, 09:33:56 PM
Don't really like to blame keepers but this is it.

Robles for me from now on!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 22, 2015, 09:34:04 PM
Fuckin shambles.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: MmmblueBernard on February 22, 2015, 09:34:14 PM
We should be 3-2 up but for Howard and Lukaku.

you mean 3-0.....
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: BrotherEstapol on February 22, 2015, 09:34:21 PM
Gotta sort this out...can definitely see Rom slotting one.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cozzie on February 22, 2015, 09:34:39 PM
We have had chances. Our own fault.  That and howard being completely abysmal.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: dchans on February 22, 2015, 09:34:47 PM
Kone? Get him on ffs
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 09:35:12 PM
Let him be a sentimental ticket seller in MLS.  Fucking give him away just to clear salary.  But he has to GO.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Django on February 22, 2015, 09:35:24 PM
This is an absolute disgrace this. Never want to see Tim Howard in goal again. He's cost us countless points this season.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 22, 2015, 09:35:39 PM
All the 'big clubs' are queuing up Rom

Ha, much needed laugh that.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cuttyblue on February 22, 2015, 09:35:52 PM
Now we're being dominated at home vs LCFC.

Really did not think we would get back into the relegation scrap again
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cozzie on February 22, 2015, 09:36:30 PM
89 mins for the kone cameo.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 09:36:36 PM
No stream but sounds like Howard is having a nightmare, and Roms missing a few.

sums it up, peejay.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bally on February 22, 2015, 09:36:57 PM
Fucking seething at that baldy bearded  cunt
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 09:37:19 PM
Think Lukakus had a decent game. Hes linking it well and working hard. Missed quite a few sitters recently but that happens.

Actually think weve been pretty decent and but for Howard would be comfortable.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Shogun on February 22, 2015, 09:38:17 PM
Sky can fuck off as well. You'd think Lukaku was the reason we're not winning.

Barely a mention for the fucker in goal.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 09:38:19 PM
Pull any half-drunk pub league keeper out of the stands and it would still be level, at least.  Anybody but Howard.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cozzie on February 22, 2015, 09:39:08 PM
Gibson has looked great as has atsu.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 22, 2015, 09:39:09 PM
Kone or Kev on for Naismith ffs
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Django on February 22, 2015, 09:39:15 PM
This is looking more and more perilous if we can't beat this shower of shite at home.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Juanito on February 22, 2015, 09:39:21 PM
Wasn't just the two errors.Constantly on his line making it difficult for his defenders, not giving them an option.  Laughing after a poor clearance.  He has to go. Been shite all season.  Hull at home and these mistakes could prove fatal.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bluedylan on February 22, 2015, 09:39:40 PM
Nevermind 'but for Howard', whatabout 'but for Martinez' cos it's really his fault. You don't drop a keeper after three clean sheets, when you're other keeper is a fucking embarrassing liability.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: pjk on February 22, 2015, 09:39:43 PM
sums it up, peejay.



I was hoping all this poor play and the mistakes were behind us after Thursday. Not so is it. :hmph:
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 09:39:57 PM
ffs...
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 22, 2015, 09:40:05 PM
Nugent & Vardy ripping Everton a new one. Leicester never won a prem game at Goodison.

Take me now Lord........
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Django on February 22, 2015, 09:40:28 PM
He's a cracking player Atsu isn't he.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Craig_1878 on February 22, 2015, 09:40:36 PM
Player of the tournament eh? Jesus.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: dchans on February 22, 2015, 09:40:46 PM
Yeah like Gibson

More urgency when he plays. Dreading going into work already
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: NomadskiEFC on February 22, 2015, 09:40:50 PM
Nobody is making good enough positional runs for Lennon to make much difference. The ball is bouncing off the back of Atsu's head. Lukaku can't judge the bounce of a ball on flat ground. Our keeper flaps like he's swatting flies.

Last 20 minutes has been a shocker.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 22, 2015, 09:41:15 PM
what the fuck is martinez waiting for with Kone/Kev?? its 80 mins not 40.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Silas on February 22, 2015, 09:41:25 PM
Howard came back into the side and looked decent but he's rapidly reverted to type.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Everton Mint on February 22, 2015, 09:41:31 PM
If we were a normal club, after winning 4-1 away in Europe we would come home and beat the bottom club comfortably.
But... (https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-1/p160x160/1607002_703926743005128_977590799_n.png?oh=7d193b48fc4f5e5f98d0513a00f7a923&oe=555244CA&__gda__=1431195490_6012895bff5f68da448bbd406a930a08)


Told yers.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 09:41:44 PM
If RM keeps Howard in the lineup after today, then he's lost me for good.  BD is absolutely right.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 09:41:45 PM
He's a cracking player Atsu isn't he.

he's in good company today. generally piss poor.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: TheRam on February 22, 2015, 09:42:02 PM
Gibson has been fucking brilliant.

Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Silas on February 22, 2015, 09:42:34 PM
Told yers.

Congrats
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Django on February 22, 2015, 09:42:56 PM
Really sick of this. Sick to death of it.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 09:43:17 PM
When it clicks for Atsu he'll be a very good player. Just seems short of confidence
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 22, 2015, 09:43:18 PM
Told yers.

Congratufuckinglations
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Nicco on February 22, 2015, 09:43:44 PM
We don't seems to like finishing off our attacks....
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Shogun on February 22, 2015, 09:44:06 PM
Oh good, Mirallas to come on and take pot shots from 40 yards.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 09:44:45 PM
I feel like even if we equalise now, I'm not going to be bothered.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: NomadskiEFC on February 22, 2015, 09:45:16 PM

Oh good, Mirallas to come on and take pot shots from 40 yards.

Id be happy with someone connecting with the ball and having a shot.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 09:45:30 PM
If I was Kone Id be looking for a move. Think hes been decent the little bits hes played but is gettting used less and less. Surely we can go 2 up top against lesser sides when chasing it
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cuttyblue on February 22, 2015, 09:45:53 PM
Nugent & Vardy ripping Everton a new one. Leicester never won a prem game at Goodison.

Take me now Lord........

lol, nice one. I feel the same
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 09:46:01 PM
let's hope mirallas isn't sulking...
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 22, 2015, 09:46:45 PM
Send us your weak your shite anyone who needs a goal for we are the home of Tim fucking Howard.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: pjk on February 22, 2015, 09:47:15 PM
It's time for Mirallas to be the hero, Over to you Kev.....
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 09:47:17 PM
How the fuck do we not score THAT!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 09:47:21 PM
I feel like even if we equalise now, I'm not going to be bothered.

i am. sod losing to fucking leicester at home...
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cuttyblue on February 22, 2015, 09:47:52 PM
Lukaku <head in hands and cries>
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: NomadskiEFC on February 22, 2015, 09:47:54 PM
Fucking shite today, Lukaku.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cozzie on February 22, 2015, 09:47:55 PM
One of those days. But then again, said that too much thiz season
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: dchans on February 22, 2015, 09:48:12 PM
Someone count up the number of chances rom has missed
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bluedylan on February 22, 2015, 09:48:23 PM
They're gonna spend the post match slagging Lukaku off, and briefly mention Howard 'being a bit sloppy' and i'm going to need to buy a new tele and get a glazier in.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 22, 2015, 09:48:29 PM
lol, nice one. I feel the same

Aye, wonder how Lukakus feeling at the mo.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 09:48:36 PM
Lukakus got to have missed 7 or 8 sitters over the last 5 or 6 games. His all round game is much improved though
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 09:49:05 PM
Someone count up the number of chances rom has missed

ran out of fingers...
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: NomadskiEFC on February 22, 2015, 09:49:36 PM
Finally
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 09:49:39 PM
FUCKING GET IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Silas on February 22, 2015, 09:49:41 PM
Fucking about time!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: velimski on February 22, 2015, 09:49:42 PM
NICE ONE ROM!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: pjk on February 22, 2015, 09:49:43 PM
Thank fuck!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 09:49:46 PM
Yes! lUkaku! AT last!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Craig_1878 on February 22, 2015, 09:49:46 PM
Finally!! Come on Blue boys lets win this bastard.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Goaljira on February 22, 2015, 09:49:51 PM
Get in Rom lad!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Nicco on February 22, 2015, 09:50:01 PM
One of those days. But then again, said that too much thiz season
Agree... When does it turn into this season rather than diffirent days....?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: toffee_scot on February 22, 2015, 09:50:01 PM
At least Lukaku has  finally scored
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: TheRam on February 22, 2015, 09:50:06 PM
He's deserved that.

Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: djws1788 on February 22, 2015, 09:50:06 PM
finally Rom! nice ball in from Atsu
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 09:50:13 PM
Own goal. But I did cheer.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 09:50:19 PM
There we go. Hes had a good game. Missed fucking loads but hes been invovled all the way through. Always a threat
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 09:50:25 PM
There you go, Rom.  He kept his head up and kept working hard.  And it pays off.

Better than laughing it off like Howard always does.

I'll take the point FFS
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cuttyblue on February 22, 2015, 09:50:26 PM
Aye, wonder how Lukakus feeling at the mo.

Better now!

Coymfbb!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: griff969 on February 22, 2015, 09:50:33 PM
For all the stick he has taken today, proper strikers goal that
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Nicco on February 22, 2015, 09:50:33 PM
At least Lukaku has  finally scored
Bound to! :)
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blueToffee on February 22, 2015, 09:50:35 PM
Get in!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bluedylan on February 22, 2015, 09:50:55 PM
Wasn't it an own goal? Not slagging Rom off like.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 22, 2015, 09:51:02 PM
Fucking shite today, Lukaku.

Ha ha......nice one mate.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bally on February 22, 2015, 09:51:09 PM
Martinez can fuck off, fucking shitehawk, how the fuck he can justify putting that fuck stick Howard on the pit cH is fucking beyond me
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 09:51:10 PM
phew...
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 09:51:37 PM
Wasn't it an own goal? Not slagging Rom off like.

Yes, definitely.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 09:52:45 PM
Atsu has had a nice last 5 minutes.

Definitely OG on replay.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: NomadskiEFC on February 22, 2015, 09:53:22 PM

For all the stick he has taken today, proper strikers goal that

For all the well deserved stick. He's been fucking shite, for all the quality of chances he's had, he should have easily had a hat trick today.

Glad he's scored, and he did well for that goal, but it shouldn't take away from his overall performance which has been sub par today.

If Howard makes a world class save in injury time, will it make up for his shite performance? No. Same with Rom.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: velimski on February 22, 2015, 09:53:23 PM
Yes! lUkaku! AT last!

you ARE bothered if we score then!  ;D
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 09:53:26 PM
my poor heart...
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 09:53:29 PM
Atsu has had a nice last 5 minutes.

Definitely OG on replay.

He gets the assist though, so still goes up a point on Shogun's table.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: NomadskiEFC on February 22, 2015, 09:53:55 PM

Ha ha......nice one mate.

Not at all. He's still been piss.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 09:54:04 PM
i thought we were out of the cup...
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 09:54:14 PM
Gibson has to be the first name on the team sheet next game.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 22, 2015, 09:54:25 PM
Better now!

Coymfbb!

Law of averages mate.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Nicco on February 22, 2015, 09:54:37 PM
Fuck, corner for them!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Redartin on February 22, 2015, 09:55:17 PM
Howard better not fuck up again
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blue slug on February 22, 2015, 09:55:23 PM
Why the fuck can't we beat Leicester at home. Utter shite
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bluedylan on February 22, 2015, 09:55:56 PM
Better than losing, but i'm still fuming at that bearded fuckwit and the man who brought him back.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Amata on February 22, 2015, 09:55:56 PM
Howard has to be screaming for that
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: NomadskiEFC on February 22, 2015, 09:56:00 PM
Wow Howard lol.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 09:56:18 PM
rarely been so happy with a draw...and against fucking leicester.

howard nearly fucks up, again.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Nicco on February 22, 2015, 09:56:27 PM
Jags not trusting Howard at all!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 09:56:29 PM
I guess we could vote Howard?  He was Leicester's MotM.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Optimistic Blue on February 22, 2015, 09:56:36 PM
Howard nearly fluffed it again
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 22, 2015, 09:56:37 PM
Absolutely fucking fuming with that. Gobshites
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Silas on February 22, 2015, 09:56:54 PM
I don't think we were as rank as people made out. We should have had them easily if Lukaku could shoot for shit we would have buried them. Our passing was slow at times but good subs from Martinez should have made the difference.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: griff969 on February 22, 2015, 09:56:57 PM
For all the well deserved stick. He's been fucking shite, for all the quality of chances he's had, he should have easily had a hat trick today.

Glad he's scored, and he did well for that goal, but it shouldn't take away from his overall performance which has been sub par today.

If Howard makes a world class save in injury time, will it make up for his shite performance? No. Same with Rom.

I'm not sure what you were reading. I just said it was a proper strikers goal.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Yobo2008 on February 22, 2015, 09:57:01 PM
Martinez out !!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cuttyblue on February 22, 2015, 09:57:07 PM
Booooo Howard, boooooo Lukaku
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bluedylan on February 22, 2015, 09:57:29 PM
Presumably Pearson is thinking, 'thank fuck that bearded twat still gets picked for them'.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Sprooly on February 22, 2015, 09:57:43 PM
Thought we played pretty well in that 2nd half, could have scored 5... Gibson was terrific after coming on

However it make things difficult when your goalkeeper decides to gift two goals away
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Nicco on February 22, 2015, 09:58:19 PM
If Robles doesn't play next game then my confidience in RM is completely gone!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 22, 2015, 09:58:28 PM
Howard better not fuck up again

Almost did as well. NBC ripping the shite out of Martinez.....
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 22, 2015, 09:58:45 PM
Big plus was Gibson
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Tinga on February 22, 2015, 09:58:59 PM
Howard can't play anymore for Everton, he's a liability. He needs to be sold to the MLS for whatever they'll pay. He's not fucking good enough.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bob Sacamano on February 22, 2015, 09:59:03 PM
Missed all the goals driving home from a family thing. Doesn't sound great. Conceding goals is part of the game but it really fucks me off gifting them to sides.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 09:59:18 PM
Its a decent performance. Created plenty of chances. Lukaku played well apart from the finishing. Think I expect something completely different to everyone else. He was good. Constantly involved.

This seasons a write off in domestic terms. We need to get ourselves a couple of playmakers before next season if we are going to improve
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cuttyblue on February 22, 2015, 09:59:24 PM
Martinez out !!

NBC commentary spot on: "something is wrong with Everton" "question RMs ability to motivate" "lower mid table is a poor poor season for everton"

Agree with all

*EDIT: not with RM Out... But what is the deal here?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: NomadskiEFC on February 22, 2015, 09:59:26 PM

I'm not sure what you were reading. I just said it was a proper strikers goal.

I used the quote as a lead to my point against those making excuses for Rom, whose performance today was unacceptable, despite his goal.

Not targeted to you or your point, apologies for the insinuation.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: toffee_scot on February 22, 2015, 09:59:56 PM
Howard might want to shave off his beard and put on a wig if he wants to walk along the streets of Liverpool.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 22, 2015, 10:00:22 PM
rarely been so happy with a draw...and against fucking leicester.

howard nearly fucks up, again.

Frank Worthington would've filled his wellies today.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blueToffee on February 22, 2015, 10:00:37 PM
Ugh.

I doubt Martinez will do it but Howard should be dropped. We just need to scrape our way to 40 pts at this point, there really isn't much else we can do now. Lukaku should have scored a hatful too. As has been said his contribution and build up involvement were good, but the finishing wasn't. It was the reverse version Lukaku of late.

This season has been lousy. Martinez has not turned this around, we can have a bad season but we can't return to being a bottom/middle of the table team.

Thought Gibson changed the game. Finally had someone willing to pick a forward pass from deep.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: pjk on February 22, 2015, 10:00:48 PM
Gibson has to be the first name on the team sheet next game.



That sounds like good news, but another bad day at the office. I can't talk about the keepers anymore, Roberto's doing my head in.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blue slug on February 22, 2015, 10:01:05 PM
I can only think that Martinez spends his nights watching replays of Howard's performance against Belgium in the world cup, it's only reason he can still pick him
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: NomadskiEFC on February 22, 2015, 10:01:59 PM

Its a decent performance. Created plenty of chances. Lukaku played well apart from the finishing. Think I expect something completely different to everyone else. He was good. Constantly involved.

This seasons a write off in domestic terms. We need to get ourselves a couple of playmakers before next season if we are going to improve

I want one thing from rom and that's goals. In most games I'm quiet as he rarely gets the service his game needs. But today he got a multitude of chances from great service and did nothing with it.

He was poor.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Brownie on February 22, 2015, 10:02:05 PM
I can only think that Martinez spends his nights watching replays of Howard's performance against Belgium in the world cup, it's only reason he can still pick him

Hahaha that made me chuckle
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Shogun on February 22, 2015, 10:02:10 PM
Atsu had a lot of good moments as well.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Yobo2008 on February 22, 2015, 10:02:11 PM
Fooking woeful
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Craig_1878 on February 22, 2015, 10:02:20 PM
Played 26 - Won 6

Very grim reading.

Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 10:02:31 PM
If Lukaku hadnt had a single chance youd all be on here defending him. Surely its a vast improvement when his link play, physicality and movement are getting him into positions to score goals??
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Silas on February 22, 2015, 10:02:35 PM
To be honest Martinez's only big error right now is playing Howard but given that's a game changer in the form he's in it's a pretty big error!

Thought Atsu while erratic looked decent. Lennon is going to frustrate me more than Mc Geady.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Shogun on February 22, 2015, 10:02:36 PM
Fooking woeful

Not out shopping today then?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: indiantoffee1975 on February 22, 2015, 10:03:05 PM
Plodding over the line to safety. Are people willing to accept similar performances and another season so far like this next season?

Why was Howard brought back in goal at the expense of Robles two week ago. Only one man responsible for those decisions. If he doesn't rectify this season, then for me he has got to go 10 odd games into next season if things have not changed.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: duncandisorderly on February 22, 2015, 10:03:14 PM
Terrible, we consistently struggle to beat the sides below us who sit deep & close down, utter shite
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bob Sacamano on February 22, 2015, 10:03:16 PM
Not out shopping today then?

 :snigger:
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Goaljira on February 22, 2015, 10:03:40 PM
Frank Worthington would've filled his wellies today.

Frank Sidebottom would've filled his wellies with the  bearded clown in goals for us.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Yobo2008 on February 22, 2015, 10:03:54 PM
Not out shopping today then?
No unfortunately i lost my money betting on Everton.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: fubarruk on February 22, 2015, 10:04:46 PM
Coming from behind for a home draw against that shower of shite, 6 points off relegation zone with only 1 win in 10 and put first choice calamity keeper fit and raring to go, time to lump my money on us going down, at least it'll be some form of silver lining..

Blame Howard, Lukaku, Martinez or any of them, bottom line, fuckin dreadful!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 22, 2015, 10:05:14 PM
Atsu was very very mcgeady.

I didn't get keeping kone or mirallas off when two one down
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Brownie on February 22, 2015, 10:05:16 PM
Not out shopping today then?

Didn't notice him thursday
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blueToffee on February 22, 2015, 10:05:25 PM
Played 26 - Won 6

Very grim reading.



Very poor. I'm hoping this is second season syndrome but serious questions should be asked of Martinez in the summer.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: NomadskiEFC on February 22, 2015, 10:05:28 PM

If Lukaku hadnt had a single chance youd all be on here defending him. Surely its a vast improvement when his link play, physicality and movement are getting him into positions to score goals??

His chances came from much improved service to him. In fact he would have had even more chances had he ran a little more intelligently, as pointed out at half time.

He doesn't create chances in the box by himself, he is supposed to put them away. That's what I judge him and only him on, as that's his job.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cozzie on February 22, 2015, 10:05:37 PM
Phew.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cozzie on February 22, 2015, 10:06:34 PM
To put things in to perspective and due to the fact that i've calmed down a little, we weren't actually that bad at all today.

We conceded 2 goals mainly down to Howards goalkeeping being utter farcical.

We had an absolute shit tonne of chances that for one reason or another we couldn't put them away, Lukaku being the main culprit, but if you see the fact he scored three on thursday compared today that is how football goes sometimes.

Howard HAS to be dropped, if Martinez has any tezzies on him at all.

The thing I liked most today was the performances of Atsu and Gibson, we looked very comfortable on the ball when the change was made and Atsu probably had his best game for us and he wasn't actually on the wing.

Gibson I thought was brilliant. I have been saying this all along, its easy to forget just how underrated a footballer he actually is.

He is a rolls royce type of player providing you can get him out of the garage, stay injury free and he is a sound replacement for Barry.

He has a good range of passing and is much more composed on the ball than people give him credit for, can shoot well from distance too, would like to see him start a lot more games between now and the end of the season.

Europe aside this season can't end quick enough, I am sure i'm not alone in saying this season can well and truly just fuck off and end providing we get to 40 points quick as possible.

If you can't get three points at home to the side at the bottom of the league then I struggle to see where we will get them this season, but the way its gone we will probably beat Arsenal next week or something like that.

I can't remember a season which has been so devoid of good performances. Even when we have been shite in the past there was the odd number of games where it all just went together. I cant remember a season like this ever, it's just like it has never ever got started.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: cantoffee on February 22, 2015, 10:06:40 PM
Could have scored a hatful today.

I actually thought Rom played well other than his finishing, good hold up play, linked up well, and set up Naismith for the first.

Naismith and Gibson though the only two who really stood out for me. Naismith for the goal and for what should have been two great assists to Rom and Atsu. Gibson who really showed what it's like to have a CM who isn't afraid to play a forward pass into a tight space and overall sprayed the ball around really well.

Poor at times defensively, and I'm not sure you can entirely blame the first goal on Howard who made the right decision but had the ball come back off Stones. Terrible for the second though and overall really poor today from him.

We really are horrendous this year though. 2 wins in our last 13 games, and this is apparently us finding our form again.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 10:06:47 PM
I want one thing from rom and that's goals. In most games I'm quiet as he rarely gets the service his game needs. But today he got a multitude of chances from great service and did nothing with it.

He was poor.

He rarely got service cos he was shite. Hes now contributing much more. Finishing has been a bit off but hes playing his part recently. They say you worry when you dont get in the position to score rather than you miss a few. Early in the season hed play full games looking a little like a stockier Stephen Hawkins and everyone defended him. Now hes playing quite well hes getting slagged off. Players miss chances. I have a problem when he does fuck all. Was good today. A constant threat. Missed plenty but on another day he scores 3. Im quite happy if we get this level from him every week
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Shogun on February 22, 2015, 10:07:21 PM
Atsu was very very mcgeady.


Couldn't disagree more there mate.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: hill135 on February 22, 2015, 10:07:51 PM
Don't see how anyone can point the finger at Lukaku. We created the chances and scored twice. Scoring twice at home to a Leicester side with a back 5 should suffice.

We didn't get three points because of Tim Howard's handling. Simple.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Yobo2008 on February 22, 2015, 10:08:16 PM
Didn't notice him thursday
I did post on Thursday dickhead saying how much of an improved performance it was. And for the record ill post when i want not when you and several other dickheads say i can.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: chang on February 22, 2015, 10:08:30 PM
Coming from behind for a home draw against that shower of shite, 6 points off relegation zone with only 1 win in 10 and put first choice calamity keeper fit and raring to go, time to lump my money on us going down, at least it'll be some form of silver lining..

Blame Howard, Lukaku, Martinez or any of them, bottom line, fuckin dreadful!



Put your money where your mouth is..... I'll bet you £100 we don't get relegated.

Yet another disappointing day I agree.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 10:09:32 PM
His chances came from much improved service to him. In fact he would have had even more chances had he ran a little more intelligently, as pointed out at half time.

He doesn't create chances in the box by himself, he is supposed to put them away. That's what I judge him and only him on, as that's his job.

Service isnt just the passer. Theres his movement and physicality too. When he gets no service its partly down to him and when hes getting lots of chances he deserves much of the credit
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Everton Mint on February 22, 2015, 10:09:38 PM
Just another ride on the Everton rollercoaster.

After the massive up on Thursday, I knew what was coming...
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Simon Paul on February 22, 2015, 10:09:46 PM
Sat in the car fuming here
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Brownie on February 22, 2015, 10:10:32 PM
I did post on Thursday dickhead saying how much of an improved performance it was. And for the record ill post when i want not when you and several other dickheads say i can.

Do you remember complaining about name calling?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 10:12:05 PM
Put your money where your mouth is..... I'll bet you £100 we don't get relegated.

Yet another disappointing day I agree.

We wont but your offer of even money isnt overly generous
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Juanito on February 22, 2015, 10:13:19 PM
One thing I have noticed about Howard is his lead feet.  Seems to be sluggish to move like Distin was earlier in the season. Slow to come out and help the defence, slow to react with feet, see near post goals and no leap. He is finished. 
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: TheRam on February 22, 2015, 10:14:50 PM
Do you remember complaining about name calling?

We really doing this shite again?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Brownie on February 22, 2015, 10:15:04 PM
Good to see Gibbo back. I hope he stays fit
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 10:15:09 PM
We played well today. Could have had 5 and should have probably kept a clean sheet too. Just needed a bit more luck. Weve certainly see much worse this season

Seasons a complete write off anyway. Lets get it over with. Focus on Europe. Start again next season. Really assuming we arent going down the results dont much matter in the league now.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Yobo2008 on February 22, 2015, 10:15:10 PM
Do you remember complaining about name calling?
Unfortunately your constant sarcasm and inability to stop yourself responding to a poster who thinks you are an absolute knob forced my hand and made stoop to your low levels.
Title: Everton v Leicester
Post by: NomadskiEFC on February 22, 2015, 10:15:21 PM
He rarely got service cos he was shite. Hes now contributing much more. Finishing has been a bit off but hes playing his part recently. They say you worry when you dont get in the position to score rather than you miss a few. Early in the season hed play full games looking a little like a stockier Stephen Hawkins and everyone defended him. Now hes playing quite well hes getting slagged off. Players miss chances. I have a problem when he does fuck all. Was good today. A constant threat. Missed plenty but on another day he scores 3. Im quite happy if we get this level from him every week

Most of the games where he has struggled it's because the ball has been bounced sideways and backwards instead of being played with pace and intelligence into space in front or near to Rom. Just look at the game stats for the west brom game, there was fuck all played into him.

He hasn't been great for most of the season, but when he's scored he has done it the hard way, out of the box, turning and scoring from 15-20 yards.

Today he actually had piss easy strikers chances today, inside the box, in front of him.

I criticised the chance he had the other week  inside 5 yards where he fired it straight at the keeper.

I don't want a 1 goal from 6 killer chances striker. I want the player I know Lukaku could be.

We should have won that comfortably with what we created, even with Mr Magoo in goal.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Brownie on February 22, 2015, 10:15:25 PM
We really doing this shite again?

No mate. I won't.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bwana on February 22, 2015, 10:16:33 PM
Overall the performance wasn't that bad. Good 1-2's and right flank workin' out pretty well (let's not mention Lennon's inability to cross). Sadly it was one player who did cost us two points today.

And yes. Lukaku should've scored four today. He wasn't the one costing us though. At least he did get into right positions today.

Martinez... The system looks a bit better nowadays so he decides to fuck it all up with his selections.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Tinga on February 22, 2015, 10:18:26 PM
Naismith needs to play in the role he scored from. Why waste a hard grafting goal scorer by putting him in these odd positions.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 10:19:29 PM
Most of the games where he has struggled it's because the ball has been bounced sideways and backwards instead of being played with pace and intelligence into space in front or near to Rom. Just look at the game stats for the west brom game, there was fuck all played into him.

He hasn't been great for most of the season, but when he's scored he has done it the hard way, out of the box, turning and scoring from 15-20 yards.

Today he actually had piss easy strikers chances today, inside the box, in front of him.

I criticised the chance he had the other week  inside 5 yards where he fired it straight at the keeper.

I don't want a 1 goal from 6 killer chances striker. I want the player I know Lukaku could be.

We should have won that comfortably with what we created, even with Mr Magoo in goal.

Scored 1 made 1. Constantly involved. Worked hard. Wasnt perfect. His finishing was shite to be honest but its a vast improvement on much of the early season.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 22, 2015, 10:20:05 PM
why do we play two DMs at home to Leicester?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Silas on February 22, 2015, 10:20:29 PM
Naismith needs to play in the role he scored from. Why waste a hard grafting goal scorer by putting him in these odd positions.

It's a simple case of playing Barkley or Naismith and not both. Mad that Martinez can't see that
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: TheRam on February 22, 2015, 10:21:37 PM
Gave Gibson motm.

He's a carbon copy of Barry. Completely changed the game when he come on
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: charlatan on February 22, 2015, 10:22:51 PM
Howard shouldn't need to be dropped for the next game, as the bearded imbecile should never have been back in the side in the 1st place.

As somebody else said, Gibson should be first name on the teamsheet after that, but there's no chance with Bobby's lovechild available again next week.

Just another standard day as a blue
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 10:23:29 PM
Gave Gibson motm.

He's a carbon copy of Barry. Completely changed the game when he come on

nobody getting my vote today. in full sulk.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 10:23:53 PM
Think next season is make or break for Barkley. Hes really not contributed much of anything this season after we expected him to push on and become great

If we are to be a side around the top 4 we need a top class playmaker and some decent cover in the position too. We are going to have to buy 1 and if Barkley doesnt step up hes going to end up being the cover and not gettting too much playing time
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blargins on February 22, 2015, 10:23:59 PM
It's a simple case of playing Barkley or Naismith and not both. Mad that Martinez can't see that

Most England managers couldn't see playing Lampard and Gerard in the same team didn't work either. Similar sort of thing.

Should rotate the two players.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Goaljira on February 22, 2015, 10:25:39 PM
It's a simple case of playing Barkley or Naismith and not both. Mad that Martinez can't see that

Slightly different position, but It's the same with how many England managers tried and failed to get Gerrard and Lampard in the same team.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: toffee_scot on February 22, 2015, 10:25:56 PM
Most England managers couldn't see playing Lampard and Gerard in the same team didn't work either. Similar sort of thing.

Should rotate the two players.

I always got the impression that the England managers were frightened of dropping either one of them especially for big games.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: hill135 on February 22, 2015, 10:26:10 PM
Think next season is make or break for Barkley. Hes really not contributed much of anything this season after we expected him to push on and become great

If we are to be a side around the top 4 we need a top class playmaker and some decent cover in the position too. We are going to have to buy 1 and if Barkley doesnt step up hes going to end up being the cover and not gettting too much playing time

He ran the game against YB the other day, and top class playmakers cost a fortune!
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 22, 2015, 10:27:47 PM
Sat in the car fuming here

Open the windows.........
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blueToffee on February 22, 2015, 10:29:40 PM
why do we play two DMs at home to Leicester?

I think this is a very, very valid question.

When we constantly run into teams that set up like this that we struggle to break down and yet we never seem to sacrifice a DM even when it often seems like we have 2 CBs and 2 DMs to contain more often than not just one or two opposition players.

We pack the middle but seemingly can do nothing with the possession. Gibson at least made us look better just by having someone there willing to play a longer more direct pass from that position. We finally had someone who wasn't just happy to retain the ball and keep it amongst the back 4. I think arguably this has been our biggest single problem this season.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 10:30:51 PM
I voted Stones for saving the match before halftime.  I truly believe we would have fallen apart had we gone down right before the break like that, to a cascade of boos.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 10:31:03 PM
He ran the game against YB the other day, and top class playmakers cost a fortune!

Hes had a few good games, was good against QPR too. Coutiniho only cost about 8 million didnt he?? Im not saying Barkley wont get better but hes been very average this. Naismith is a decent goalscorer but hes not going to open many teams up with his passing and dribbling. If we play 2 defensive midfielders then the 1 attacking player alongside them has to contribute big
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 10:33:16 PM
I think this is a very, very valid question.

When we constantly run into teams that set up like this that we struggle to break down and yet we never seem to sacrifice a DM even when it often seems like we have 2 CBs and 2 DMs to contain more often than not just one or two opposition players.

We pack the middle but seemingly can do nothing with the possession. Gibson at least made us look better just by having someone there willing to play a longer more direct pass from that position. We finally had someone who wasn't just happy to retain the ball and keep it amongst the back 4. I think arguably this has been our biggest single problem this season.

I actually dont think thats the problem. The problem is we havent had a decent level of performance from a winger or attacking midfielder all season. Miralles has moments not games, not happened for Atsu (though I do rate him) Barkley has been way below what we all hoped.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cuttyblue on February 22, 2015, 10:33:31 PM
Most of the games where he has struggled it's because the ball has been bounced sideways and backwards instead of being played with pace and intelligence into space in front or near to Rom. Just look at the game stats for the west brom game, there was fuck all played into him.

He hasn't been great for most of the season, but when he's scored he has done it the hard way, out of the box, turning and scoring from 15-20 yards.

Today he actually had piss easy strikers chances today, inside the box, in front of him.

I criticised the chance he had the other week  inside 5 yards where he fired it straight at the keeper.

I don't want a 1 goal from 6 killer chances striker. I want the player I know Lukaku could be.

We should have won that comfortably with what we created, even with Mr Magoo in goal.

Lukaku was awful today... he's been starved of service most of the season... today, a hat-trick of fluffed sitters.  No excuses!

What a swing from 3 days ago, what a funny game this is.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blob on February 22, 2015, 10:35:11 PM
Hes had a few good games, was good against QPR too. Coutiniho only cost about 8 million didnt he?? Im not saying Barkley wont get better but hes been very average this. Naismith is a decent goalscorer but hes not going to open many teams up with his passing and dribbling. If we play 2 defensive midfielders then the 1 attacking player alongside them has to contribute big

near enough. his goal today was almost worth that :)

...but that horse has bolted.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bluedylan on February 22, 2015, 10:36:17 PM
That's just completely ruined my day. I don't feel any happiness about the late equaliser whatsoever, apart from being pleased for Atsu and Lukaku on a personal level.

I've written this league season off long ago, and I don't think we'll be in relegation trouble, so instead I'm looking for signs from the manager that things will be noticeably different next season and that he's learning.

What I'm seeing instead is no tactical innovation in these types of games, setting up exactly the same way against teams with 10 men behind the ball, and picking a goalkeeper who continually costs us points and games. And I'm a big Martinez supporter, and have argued with lots of people who I thought we're over-reacting. I'm struggling to keep the faith at the moment, based on the evidence.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 10:37:04 PM
near enough. his goal today was almost worth that :)

...but that horse has bolted.

Obviously and hes an extreme example of a bargain but there most be players out there that do things a little bit different for a reasonable fee. We need some more flair, movement and passing.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Ell Capitan on February 22, 2015, 10:39:10 PM
Honestly haven't been so bored by our style of play since the Walter Smith days.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blueToffee on February 22, 2015, 10:39:17 PM
I actually dont think thats the problem. The problem is we havent had a decent level of performance from a winger or attacking midfielder all season. Miralles has moments not games, not happened for Atsu (though I do rate him) Barkley has been way below what we all hoped.

Well that's another problem for sure. I just think we need someone willing to be more direct in that position on the pitch. I don't think we've played well on either side but all too often we don't play it to them quickly enough. Our two DMs not only suppress the opposition attacks they do the same for us as this season they've been mostly happy to retain possession and slow things down. I thought one of our better games and certainly Barkley's best PL game was when he played deeper. It suited him and it helped the team drive forward from the deeper positions.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cuttyblue on February 22, 2015, 10:41:30 PM
Lads, I would like to listen into the phone in tonight.  What time is it on and what radio station?  I'm in US so I usually listen thru Streema.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 10:42:08 PM
Lukaku was awful today... he's been starved of service most of the season... today, a hat-trick of fluffed sitters.  No excuses!

What a swing from 3 days ago, what a funny game this is.

If we'd of lost 2 nowt and he'd stood there and done fuck all Id be slagging him off and youd all be calling me a cunt. Scored 1 made 1, worked hard, constant threat, shite finishing and thats woeful?? Its obviously me because everyone disagrees with me but I clearly expect something different to everyone else. Lukaku was very good today with really crap finishing. Hes missed chances and hes still a 7 out of 10 for me.
Theres been matches hes done the square route of fuck all. Ive no issue with performaces like todays
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cuttyblue on February 22, 2015, 10:42:19 PM
Honestly haven't been so bored by our style of play since the Walter Smith days.

Wait, what?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 10:43:44 PM
Well that's another problem for sure. I just think we need someone willing to be more direct in that position on the pitch. I don't think we've played well on either side but all too often we don't play it to them quickly enough. Our two DMs not only suppress the opposition attacks they do the same for us as this season they've been mostly happy to retain possession and slow things down. I thought one of our better games and certainly Barkley's best PL game was when he played deeper. It suited him and it helped the team drive forward from the deeper positions.

We definitely value possession way too much. Surely playing for the second ball on occassions has to be infinitely better than turning a corner into possession with our keeper? 
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blueToffee on February 22, 2015, 10:43:45 PM
That's just completely ruined my day. I don't feel any happiness about the late equaliser whatsoever, apart from being pleased for Atsu and Lukaku on a personal level.

I've written this league season off long ago, and I don't think we'll be in relegation trouble, so instead I'm looking for signs from the manager that things will be noticeably different next season and that he's learning.

What I'm seeing instead is no tactical innovation in these types of games, setting up exactly the same way against teams with 10 men behind the ball, and picking a goalkeeper who continually costs us points and games. And I'm a big Martinez supporter, and have argued with lots of people who I thought we're over-reacting. I'm struggling to keep the faith at the moment, based on the evidence.

Teams have come with the same set up time and time again this season and it's probably my biggest gripe with Martinez that we've done nothing to change things. We set up the same way and repeat the same mistakes over again.

We could try two up top.
Maybe see if a back three works?
How about dropping a DM?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 10:44:39 PM
Teams have come with the same set up time and time again this season and it's probably my biggest gripe with Martinez that we've done nothing to change things. We set up the same way and repeat the same mistakes over again.

We could try two up top.
Maybe see if a back three works?
How about dropping a DM?


Kone deserves more chances.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Evertonian in NC on February 22, 2015, 10:45:32 PM
If we'd of lost 2 nowt and he'd stood there and done fuck all Id be slagging him off and youd all be calling me a cunt. Scored 1 made 1, worked hard, constant threat, shite finishing and thats woeful?? Its obviously me because everyone disagrees with me but I clearly expect something different to everyone else. Lukaku was very good today with really crap finishing. Hes missed chances and hes still a 7 out of 10 for me.
Theres been matches hes done the square route of fuck all. Ive no issue with performaces like todays

Agree, Lukaku's been playing 90 minutes week in, week out, and working his ass off, plus being a good teammate.  His finishing touch was definitely off today, and yes, that was annoying.  But he was 4th or 5th on my list of concerns.  Howard's shitshow has to be the lead story, and Martinez has to answer for it.  Period, full stop.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: fubarruk on February 22, 2015, 10:51:01 PM
Put your money where your mouth is..... I'll bet you £100 we don't get relegated.

Yet another disappointing day I agree.
To be fair your odds aren't great, I'd gladly hand you over £100 now if it guaranteed our safety, the 66-1 the bookies are offering seems a lot more generous....
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: toffee_scot on February 22, 2015, 10:51:58 PM
That's just completely ruined my day. I don't feel any happiness about the late equaliser whatsoever, apart from being pleased for Atsu and Lukaku on a personal level.

I've written this league season off long ago, and I don't think we'll be in relegation trouble, so instead I'm looking for signs from the manager that things will be noticeably different next season and that he's learning.

What I'm seeing instead is no tactical innovation in these types of games, setting up exactly the same way against teams with 10 men behind the ball, and picking a goalkeeper who continually costs us points and games. And I'm a big Martinez supporter, and have argued with lots of people who I thought we're over-reacting. I'm struggling to keep the faith at the moment, based on the evidence.

I was going to mention, you are normally the last person to criticise Martinez's credentials or raise the panic alarm when we go on a terrible run of form.

But I agree about Howard being a liability and Martinez really has to show some 'cojones' regarding how to deal with him.

I would still argue that we are still in a relegation battle even though there's a 6pt gap separating us and 18th place. If we struggle to beat the likes of West Brom, Hull and Leicester at home while also struggling to get wins in situations where the media considers us underdogs like against Chelsea, Man City or dare I say it, Liverpool then it does make you wonder how we will pick up the next 10 points especially as we have been in the 20-30pt zone for a considerably long time.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: sam of the south on February 22, 2015, 10:53:58 PM
We need balance, and players in positions that suits them.

Either Barry or Gibson.

Either McCarthy or Besic (at the moment)

Either Barkley or Naismith.

And two wingers from Lennon, Mirallas, Atsu, McGeady, and Pienaar.
Title: Everton v Leicester
Post by: NomadskiEFC on February 22, 2015, 10:56:12 PM
Agree, Lukaku's been playing 90 minutes week in, week out, and working his ass off, plus being a good teammate.  His finishing touch was definitely off today, and yes, that was annoying.  But he was 4th or 5th on my list of concerns.  Howard's shitshow has to be the lead story, and Martinez has to answer for it.  Period, full stop.

Definitely off? None existent you mean.

I want 1 thing and only one thing for a £28m striker to give me and that's goals. Shit loads of them preferably, but ideally put away plenty of chances when presented to him.

They weren't half chances today, they were sitters. He missed all of them. All of them.

'Head in hands' doesn't even cover his performance today.

Most importantly it cost us just as much as the fuckwit at the other end of the pitch.

If people think he had a good game, more power to them. For me he was awful.

If it had been Naismith with all those chances, would have been interesting to read the meltdown here.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Simon Paul on February 22, 2015, 10:57:32 PM
We need balance, and players in positions that suits them.

Either Barry or Gibson.

Either McCarthy or Besic (at the moment)

Either Barkley or Naismith.

And two wingers from Lennon, Mirallas, Atsu, McGeady, and Pienaar.

Martinez blithers on about balance all the frigging time and yet refuses to play two wingers together

Atsu and Mirallas sat on the bench watching our left side build-up play plod along until it eventually went back to flappy hands in goal must wonder what they have to do to get a game

Maybe Atsu setting up a goal will help his case
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cuttyblue on February 22, 2015, 11:00:28 PM
We're seeing an interesting side of the Lukaku debate here:

Those of us who've said "don't care if Lukaku plays well or does keepy-ups, score goals" are angry at Lukaku's performance.

Those who've said "he's paid to play football and put in complete performances" are less accusatory.

Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: NomadskiEFC on February 22, 2015, 11:03:35 PM

We're seeing an interesting side of the Lukaku debate here:

Those of us who've said "don't care if Lukaku plays well or does keepy-ups, score goals" are angry at Lukaku's performance.

Those who've said "he's paid to play football and put in complete performances" are less accusatory.

Complete performance would include scoring sitters though, no?

Believe me I want a complete performance, but it starts and ends with putting away chances put on a plate to you.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bluedylan on February 22, 2015, 11:04:11 PM
I was going to mention, you are normally the last person to criticise Martinez's credentials or raise the panic alarm when we go on a terrible run of form.

But I agree about Howard being a liability and Martinez really has to show some 'cojones' regarding how to deal with him.

I would still argue that we are still in a relegation battle even though there's a 6pt gap separating us and 18th place. If we struggle to beat the likes of West Brom, Hull and Leicester at home while also struggling to get wins in situations where the media considers us underdogs like against Chelsea, Man City or dare I say it, Liverpool then it does make you wonder how we will pick up the next 10 points especially as we have been in the 20-30pt zone for a considerably long time.

Yeah i'm struggling. i'm not saying 'he has only one was of playing' because that's clearly not the case. We can do the away game/big team game counter attack pretty well. But we haven't done anything differently in the home games against teams with men behind the ball, and these games are a chance to try things for now and for the future.

As people have said, we have a pretty big squad with loads of different options in players or formations, and we're still seeing 4-2-3-1 at snail's pace. Why not go 4-4-2 with Kone? Why not play two proper wingers? Why not play Barkley deeper if there's no space in the No. 10 part of the pitch? Why not go 3-5-2 at times?

 
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Heisenberg on February 22, 2015, 11:06:22 PM
Martinez simply isn't good enough. Try and scape goat Howard all you want, but he didn't choose to drop Joel
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 11:06:58 PM
We're seeing an interesting side of the Lukaku debate here:

Those of us who've said "don't care if Lukaku plays well or does keepy-ups, score goals" are angry at Lukaku's performance.

Those who've said "he's paid to play football and put in complete performances" are less accusatory.



On another day he scores 6 on Thursday and 3 today. Previously on another day he might as well not be there. Im honestly staggered. If hed contributed nowt today. No effort, no physicality, no movement, created nothing, been on the end of nowt everyone would have defended him

Today he looked like a good striker who had an off day infront of goal. Previously hes been useless. He was good today.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 11:08:41 PM
Complete performance would include scoring sitters though, no?

Believe me I want a complete performance, but it starts and ends with putting away chances put on a plate to you.

Hes got to have some responsibilty for a lack of service and so some credit when he does get on the end of chances. Hes been involved with both goals and hes contributed in terms of our general play too
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Yobo2008 on February 22, 2015, 11:09:44 PM
Barkley further back or not at all for me.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Brownie on February 22, 2015, 11:10:00 PM
On another day he scores 6 on Thursday and 3 today. Previously on another day he might as well not be there. Im honestly staggered. If hed contributed nowt today. No effort, no physicality, no movement, created nothing, been on the end of nowt everyone would have defended him

Today he looked like a good striker who had an off day infront of goal. Previously hes been useless. He was good today.

I agree. It was a bad day at the office for him in goals respect. Even the one he put over the bar he actually did almost everything right - putting it high to the side of a keeper who was positioned to go low - just that bit too high and wide.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: chang on February 22, 2015, 11:10:40 PM
To be fair your odds aren't great, I'd gladly hand you over £100 now if it guaranteed our safety, the 66-1 the bookies are offering seems a lot more generous....

You would actually put money on "your" team getting relegated ? Never thought an Evertonian would do that to be honest.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Robioto on February 22, 2015, 11:10:51 PM
This is arguably the most pissed off, angry, frustrated and deflated I've ever been as an Everton fan. I'm running out of patience with this shit. I've been positive throughout this poor run, but I've snapped today. I completely lost it in the second half.

Even the win on Thursday was annoying, Stones getting sent off and despite scoring a hat trick he missed a lot of other chances. That carried on today, he was terrible in front of goal, it's depressing.

I'm going to the Arsenal game as well, my mate got me a ticket in the Arsenal end. That will be fun...
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bluedylan on February 22, 2015, 11:12:51 PM
It's silly to criticise Rom for missing a few chances. Every striker does that at times. He's converted well all season from a limited number of chances. That part of his game isn't under any doubt. As MLT says it's more his whole contribution that's legitimately been under question at times and he showed a complete game today and on Thursday. That's much more encouraging. He'll score loads if he carries on playing the way he has in the last two games.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Shogun on February 22, 2015, 11:12:54 PM
In the grand scheme of things, this is the difference between finishing midtable and finishing midtable.

Martinez has my backing unless (until) he fucks up in the Europa League.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 11:13:43 PM
 
This is arguably the most pissed off, angry, frustrated and deflated I've ever been as an Everton fan. I'm running out of patience with this shit. I've been positive throughout this poor run, but I've snapped today. I completely lost it in the second half.

Even the win on Thursday was annoying, Stones getting sent off and despite scoring a hat trick he missed a lot of other chances. That carried on today, he was terrible in front of goal, it's depressing.

I'm going to the Arsenal game as well, my mate got me a ticket in the Arsenal end. That will be fun...

Really dont get it. We could have won 4 or 5 nil. Do none of us remember Hull where we could have lost 4 or 5 nil. We are actually on a good run at least performance wise
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Robioto on February 22, 2015, 11:14:32 PM
It's silly to criticise Rom for missing a few chances. Every striker does that at times. He's converted well all season from a limited number of chances. That part of his game isn't under any doubt. As MLT says it's more his whole contribution that's legitimately been under question at times and he showed a complete game today and on Thursday. That's much more encouraging. He'll score loads if he carries on playing the way he has in the last two games.

I understand that, but they aren't just a few half chances they are sitters. Still I'm frustrated today and probably not being very reasonable.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Brownie on February 22, 2015, 11:14:50 PM
Barkley further back or not at all for me.

Finding his best position is a must. He needs to find it and be allowed to develop there. Chopping and changing him wastes the talent he has and drains confidence.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: sirblue57 on February 22, 2015, 11:16:05 PM

Really dont get it. We could have won 4 or 5 nil. Do none of us remember Hull where we could have lost 4 or 5 nil. We are actually on a good run at least performance wise

did you see the game? howard is NOT on a good run, and hasn't been all season, and a fortunate point at home is not a good run, we are spluttering along sometimes good sometimes ok sometimes awful
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 11:17:38 PM
Finding his best position is a must. He needs to find it and be allowed to develop there. Chopping and changing him wastes the talent he has and drains confidence.

Further forward for me and told he can lose the fucking ball sometimes. Hes trying to be xavi and its not his game. Pick it up run with it take shots and look for a bit of magic. As a team and him individually we/he values possession way too much
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: wepull on February 22, 2015, 11:18:51 PM
I thought we were far better than we have been most of this season in the 2nd half, even under some of our wins. We drew again because of two easily avoidable goals. We created enough chances in the game and were decently solid at the back. Gibson adds another dimension to our attacking play which we miss with playing Barry there and I really think Gibson should start before Barry. His pass to Atsu and that simple through ball to Coleman was sublime.

Although we were better, we are set up far too negatively. Naismith and Barkley with two defensive mids is just a sign of desperation to not concede rather than play our natural game. It's annoying that we currently have a lot of options but we are still choosing to play players out of position and that too against a team which is at the bottom of the table.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 11:19:32 PM
did you see the game? howard is NOT on a good run, and hasn't been all season, and a fortunate point at home is not a good run, we are spluttering along sometimes good sometimes ok sometimes awful


Matched Chelsea City and Liverpool, much better than Leicester (Howard is shite and ive never rated him) played brilliantly in Europe. We are playing the best we have all season (granted its not saying too much)
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Yobo2008 on February 22, 2015, 11:21:34 PM
Finding his best position is a must. He needs to find it and be allowed to develop there. Chopping and changing him wastes the talent he has and drains confidence.
Its horrible to watch at times as he just doesnt look like hes enjoying his football and has the weight of the world on his shoulders.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: fubarruk on February 22, 2015, 11:21:36 PM
You would actually put money on "your" team getting relegated ? Never thought an Evertonian would do that to be honest.
To be honest, it was an off the cuff remark and no, couldn't bring myself to bet on us being relegated, I never include them in any accys or multiple bets purely as they tend to let me down, but betting against them...no

That being said, I was genuinely concerned a few weeks ago, slightly less now, but still concerned all the same, there are fundamental issues that continue not to be addressed.

If we can't beat Leicester at home, 6 wins all season, where is the next one coming from?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Yobo2008 on February 22, 2015, 11:23:23 PM
To be honest, it was an off the cuff remark and no, couldn't bring myself to bet on us being relegated, I never include them in any accys or multiple bets purely as they tend to let me down, but betting against them...no

That being said, I was genuinely concerned a few weeks ago, slightly less now, but still concerned all the same, there are fundamental issues that continue not to be addressed.

If we can't beat Leicester at home, 6 wins all season, where is the next one coming from?
That is my concern.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: toffee_scot on February 22, 2015, 11:23:40 PM
As people have said, we have a pretty big squad with loads of different options in players or formations, and we're still seeing 4-2-3-1 at snail's pace. Why not go 4-4-2 with Kone? Why not play two proper wingers? Why not play Barkley deeper if there's no space in the No. 10 part of the pitch? Why not go 3-5-2 at times?

Yeah it seems to be a bit of a mystery why Kone hasn't featured more recently especially has he's had a couple of decent games or at least cameo appearances plus I can't imagine there being any bad blood between him and Martinez as he was pretty much the first signing Roberto made when he first joined. But something tells me he might not quite be 100%, he played in a U21 fixture the last time and didn't travel to Bern. There were suggestions that he would have struggled to play and recover from the artificial surface.

I think Martinez has made a few changes but seems to struggle getting the balance between defence and attack right.  To be fair the last month he'd sorted out the defence although it meant we were poor going forward, but  we've actually scored 6 goals in the last 2 games whilst creating many other golden opportunities so I wonder if Martinez is slowly getting the general balance right.

I have also wondered, Martinez seems a very intelligent guy who knows his football and I'm sure if you asked him the pros and cons of a counterattacking style of play in a 3-5-2 formation he would deliver a 20,000 word dissertation that would get high praise within the world of sports academia. But is he perhaps a little too intelligent? Is he able to communicate effectively a particular complex tactic to a group of players or is he perhaps overloading the team with tactical theories that don't often translate to reality on the field? Maybe he does have the answer and is trying to implement it, but the players are just not on the same wavelength yet.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Brownie on February 22, 2015, 11:25:14 PM
Its horrible to watch at times as he just doesnt look like hes enjoying his football and has the weight of the world on his shoulders.

The weight of expectation on him is a contributing factor I think. Young lad being built up and when it doesn't go well he doubts himself.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 22, 2015, 11:27:16 PM

As people have said, we have a pretty big squad with loads of different options in players or formations, and we're still seeing 4-2-3-1 at snail's pace. Why not go 4-4-2 with Kone? Why not play two proper wingers? Why not play Barkley deeper if there's no space in the No. 10 part of the pitch? Why not go 3-5-2 at times?

 

Its pretty much the complete opposite to last season as well when we had formation changes mid game, or before hand that seemed crazy but were perfect. We had half time subs, genius changes that made Roberto seem like the messiah.

This season we have boring predictable tactics and boring predictable subs. Its as if someone has been in his ear.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Shogun on February 22, 2015, 11:28:29 PM
To be fair Lizz, today's subs were spot on.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cuttyblue on February 22, 2015, 11:29:18 PM
This is arguably the most pissed off, angry, frustrated and deflated I've ever been as an Everton fan. I'm running out of patience with this shit. I've been positive throughout this poor run, but I've snapped today. I completely lost it in the second half.

Even the win on Thursday was annoying, Stones getting sent off and despite scoring a hat trick he missed a lot of other chances. That carried on today, he was terrible in front of goal, it's depressing.

I'm going to the Arsenal game as well, my mate got me a ticket in the Arsenal end. That will be fun...

Hang in there.

In 2004, we finished 17th, lost like 5-1 at the end of the season, and I thought "no chance, our good players will run for the hills, it's all over".  Then we went on to qualifiers for the Champions Lge next year...
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 22, 2015, 11:30:03 PM
To be fair Lizz, today's subs were spot on.

Yeah true, but normally we know who is it, what time, its a DM for a DM when we need a goal, or none at all (Southampton)

Point still stands though, the difference in tactics from this season to last are absolutely mind blowing.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 11:38:02 PM
Yeah true, but normally we know who is it, what time, its a DM for a DM when we need a goal, or none at all (Southampton)

Point still stands though, the difference in tactics from this season to last are absolutely mind blowing.

Think the problem is most of the times certain players have to come off. Besic gets booked, Barkleys poor and suddenly we cant get Miralles and Kone on and dont want to make all 3 too early.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Silas on February 22, 2015, 11:39:50 PM
Think the problem is most of the times certain players have to come off. Besic gets booked, Barkleys poor and suddenly we cant get Miralles and Kone on and dont want to make all 3 too early.

One of the main problems is that Barkley or Naismith should be an option of the bench to begin with and we should have two wingers on.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: KoemansNumberTens on February 22, 2015, 11:41:44 PM
One of the main problems is that Barkley or Naismith should be an option of the bench to begin with and we should have two wingers on.

It would have to be Naismith. Hes been much more productive this season
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Audrey Horne on February 22, 2015, 11:43:42 PM
Think the problem is most of the times certain players have to come off. Besic gets booked, Barkleys poor and suddenly we cant get Miralles and Kone on and dont want to make all 3 too early.

Its the team selections as well, Naismith and Barkley can not play together. He needs to fucking realise this quickly, because its costing us.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: bacon sarnie on February 22, 2015, 11:45:02 PM
Fair-do's.....?

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/feb/22/everton-leicester-city-premier-league-match-report (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/feb/22/everton-leicester-city-premier-league-match-report)
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: cantoffee on February 22, 2015, 11:48:10 PM
In that match it has to be Barkley playing a deeper role and driving us on, no reason it shouldn't be. Martinez needs to sort that out playing against these teams that sit back and play on the counter at home.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Rodenplav64 on February 22, 2015, 11:59:42 PM
Hopefully the ' Tim Howard needs to be dropped ' thread wasn't locked !
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Rodenplav64 on February 23, 2015, 12:00:45 AM
Its the team selections as well, Naismith and Barkley can not play together. He needs to fucking realise this quickly, because its costing us.

So Barkley may as well be sold because Naismith grafts his bollocks off .
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: MmmblueBernard on February 23, 2015, 12:33:00 AM
It's silly to criticise Rom for missing a few chances. Every striker does that at times. He's converted well all season from a limited number of chances. That part of his game isn't under any doubt. As MLT says it's more his whole contribution that's legitimately been under question at times and he showed a complete game today and on Thursday. That's much more encouraging. He'll score loads if he carries on playing the way he has in the last two games.

If those 2 chances fall on his left foot they're in the net.

His right foot finishng needs working on.

Now he's proven he can score headers, and hold the ball up, he needs to work in his right foot finishing. And keepy uppies.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Silas on February 23, 2015, 01:05:40 AM
His awareness in and around the box has improved a lot of late.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Cozzie on February 23, 2015, 01:13:52 AM
Thought lukaku was ok myself like others said, apart from the finishing.

Gibson has to play a lot more after how good he was.

Atsu as well, perhaps in that second striker role he played in today, looked dangerous.

Howard can just fuck off, thing is, he wont though, he is in until the end of the season.

He has given Everton great service but he is way past it now, costing us goals and points galore.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: TheRam on February 23, 2015, 01:14:18 AM
Our fans need to stop booing anytime Besic gets subbed.

Fucking idiots
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: marky v on February 23, 2015, 01:17:18 AM
Our fans need to stop booing anytime Besic gets subbed.

Fucking idiots

It is bad but on the other hand Besic is being managed strangely
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 23, 2015, 01:20:44 AM
Our fans need to stop booing anytime Besic gets subbed.

Fucking idiots
Him and Mccarthy didn't work at all today, its quite obvious that as a two it wont work tho.

Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Silas on February 23, 2015, 01:20:48 AM
It is bad but on the other hand Besic is being managed strangely

Not really, he wasn't very good today and we needed someone who would dare to pass forward. People have decided he's their new champion because he likes a tackle and a pirouette. He's got tonnes of potential but he's being used around the right amount.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: blueski on February 23, 2015, 01:39:24 AM
gibson popped on with a nice reminder for the supporters what he offers & why we played so well for his last extended run in the side (which obviously was a long time ago) -hope to see him again soon
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Heisenberg on February 23, 2015, 02:48:10 AM
Not really, he wasn't very good today and we needed someone who would dare to pass forward. People have decided he's their new champion because he likes a tackle and a pirouette. He's got tonnes of potential but he's being used around the right amount.

Besic is a lot more forward thinking than Mccarthey. He offers next to nothing going forward
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Eddie on February 23, 2015, 02:50:42 AM
Besic is a lot more forward thinking than Mccarthey. He offers next to nothing going forward

Wouldn't say a lot more. He gets the odd shot off and that's it.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Eddie on February 23, 2015, 02:51:56 AM
Gibson probably played more through balls today than any other midfielder has the whole season.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Shogun on February 23, 2015, 02:52:46 AM
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Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: bluestevie on February 23, 2015, 02:58:27 AM
Haven't seen any of the game bar the goals briefly on the news after work, but something my dad said to me made me think. He reckons one way to sort Ross out is to maybe send him out on loan (maybe too late for this season) to get him out the firing line and into a less pressured environment, the injury early in the season and a loss of confidence has got to the lad. Another way could be dropping him down to the bench or the U21s
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
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Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Eddie on February 23, 2015, 03:16:31 AM
Shocking stat. Howard at fault for most of say.

@greenallefc: Everton now up to 13 PL goals conceded via individual errors this season. 6 more than any other PL side. Difference of 13 points so far.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Bluedylan on February 23, 2015, 03:20:26 AM
Do we know how many Howard was responsible for?
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Eddie on February 23, 2015, 03:39:09 AM
Do we know how many Howard was responsible for?

Nah I can't be arsed looking so it was a pretty stupid comment on my part but thinking back on games where he's conceded with every/almost shot on target he's got to be at fault for an awful lot.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: marky v on February 23, 2015, 03:39:46 AM
Not really, he wasn't very good today and we needed someone who would dare to pass forward. People have decided he's their new champion because he likes a tackle and a pirouette. He's got tonnes of potential but he's being used around the right amount.


Substituted frequently even though his fellow central midfielders have carried injuries, play 2 games in a week or suffer poor form I think is strangely, he was having no poorer game than McCarthy at the time of substitution
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: brap2 on February 23, 2015, 03:46:02 AM

Substituted frequently even though his fellow central midfielders have carried injuries, play 2 games in a week or suffer poor form I think is strangely, he was having no poorer game than McCarthy at the time of substitution

well it's not just about who's having the better game at time of substitution, it's stuff like going forward from that who can be more tactically flexible? who can i trust to keep a cool head? who can i trust to be more positionally aware? who's got the legs for the last 20 mins? who am i looking at to play the next game? etc. etc. which i just assume martinez has a logic for.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: MmmblueBernard on February 23, 2015, 03:54:46 AM
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Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Simon Paul on February 23, 2015, 04:11:30 AM
Gibson probably played more through balls today than any other midfielder has the whole season.

he also sprayed a delicious ball straight out of play from 40 yards too
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: MmmblueBernard on February 23, 2015, 04:14:49 AM
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Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: ally2 on February 23, 2015, 04:51:26 AM
I didn't have the best view of the action but I am not getting on any Darron Gibson bandwagon. He proven time and time again that he can't put a run of games together. I'm not blaming him but his body just can't be relied upon.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 23, 2015, 04:54:03 AM
I didn't have the best view of the action but I am not getting on any Darron Gibson bandwagon. He proven time and time again that he can't put a run of games together. I'm not blaming him but his body just can't be relied upon.
It's not a bandwagon when people are just saying he was the best passer of the ball on the pitch today
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: ally2 on February 23, 2015, 05:01:08 AM

It's not a bandwagon when people are just saying he was the best passer of the ball on the pitch today

Yeah fair enough. He still can't be relied upon though. Even as a squad member. So I would not be unhappy to see him leave.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Jimmywhack on February 23, 2015, 05:02:53 AM
Yeah fair enough. He still can't be relied upon though. Even as a squad member. So I would not be unhappy to see him leave.
If he can stay fit tho and it's a big if he shown today that he brings something to the table
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: Brownie on February 23, 2015, 05:22:11 AM
Yeah fair enough. He still can't be relied upon though. Even as a squad member. So I would not be unhappy to see him leave.

Stop picking on Gibbo!! He's my favourite player.

All joking aside you are right in what you say. I hope he can stay injury free because I think he is a very good player.
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: cjohno100 on February 23, 2015, 05:49:59 AM
was dreadful today enough said, we were shiteeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: marky v on February 23, 2015, 01:30:13 PM
well it's not just about who's having the better game at time of substitution, it's stuff like going forward from that who can be more tactically flexible? who can i trust to keep a cool head? who can i trust to be more positionally aware? who's got the legs for the last 20 mins? who am i looking at to play the next game? etc. etc. which i just assume martinez has a logic for.

I assume he has the same and that's why i say he's being managed strangely (i've not said poorly) as he's become a frequent substitution when he's having a good game and showing no signs of fatigue added to my original point of Barry being overplayed, McCarthy managing injuries yet plays 2 games in a week and whilst others are off form and seeing out the 90 mins
Title: Re: Everton v Leicester
Post by: brap2 on February 23, 2015, 03:09:39 PM
gibson popped on with a nice reminder for the supporters what he offers & why we played so well for his last extended run in the side (which obviously was a long time ago) -hope to see him again soon

forgot he had that in his locker to be honest. Hold my hands up i'd all but given up on the lad.