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March 28, 2013, 05:17:06 PM
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Jimbo and the Jetset


Alot is made of the last Everton team to win silverware and it got me thinking about whether that side were better man for man than todays first choice XI

                              Southall
                        (beats Howard)

Jackson        Watson          Unsworth           Ablett
(loses to       (beats             (loses to            (loses to
Coleman)       Distin)              Jags)                Baines)

Hinchcliffe      Horne            Parkinson          Limpar
(loses to        (loses to        (loses to Osman) (loses to Pienaar)
Miralles)        Gibson)

                                Stuart
                           (loses to Fellaini)

                               Rideout
                          (loses to Jelavic)

Soooooooo,

1995 - 2
2013 - 9

Which again begs the question...why the fuck do we fall short so often?

« Last Edit: March 28, 2013, 05:31:56 PM by Jimbo & the Jetset (J&tJ) »
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March 28, 2013, 05:28:24 PM
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velimski


I think a few people may disagree with you on Parkinson.

And where is Limpar?
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March 28, 2013, 05:29:26 PM
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Comes down to two clichés really:

1. Everything is relative - other teams are also better.

2. Winning is a mentality - better technique does not mean the players (or manager) have a better temperament under pressure.

I would have included the luck of the draw, but when you have a potential run of Cheltenham Town (A); Bolton Wanderers (A) Oldham Athletic (A); Wigan Athletic (H) and Millwall (N) as a run-in to a cup final and you don't make it there - you know it's nowt to do with luck.
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March 28, 2013, 05:34:24 PM
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Comes down to two clichés really:

1. Everything is relative - other teams are also better.

2. Winning is a mentality - better technique does not mean the players (or manager) have a better temperament under pressure.

I would have included the luck of the draw, but when you have a potential run of Cheltenham Town (A); Bolton Wanderers (A) Oldham Athletic (A); Wigan Athletic (H) and Millwall (N) as a run-in to a cup final and you don't make it there - you know it's nowt to do with luck.


This and Southall was out of this world!!!


March 28, 2013, 05:43:51 PM
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I would have included the luck of the draw, but when you have a potential run of Cheltenham Town (A); Bolton Wanderers (A) Oldham Athletic (A); Wigan Athletic (H) and Millwall (N) as a run-in to a cup final and you don't make it there - you know it's nowt to do with luck.
If you sat down at the start of the season and drew up a dream cup run it would not get much better than that. In fact that looks like a good run for the LDV Vans Trophy and we blew it.
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March 28, 2013, 05:46:31 PM
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                    Southall
Coleman Jagielka Watson Baines
                 Parkinson
                   Fellaini
         Mirallas Pienarr Limpar
                    Jelavic

Yes I prefer Fellaini playing deeper. You could also argue Graham Stuart ahead of Mirallas.


March 28, 2013, 05:47:24 PM
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Did we really play Hinchcliffe on the right in that match?
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March 28, 2013, 05:56:42 PM
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Did we really play Hinchcliffe on the right in that match?
i thought he played lm with limpar rm


Simply simply lovely

March 28, 2013, 05:58:02 PM
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Ross


Did we really play Hinchcliffe on the right in that match?

It's called the Oviedo position
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March 28, 2013, 06:10:18 PM
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Jimmywhack

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Southall
Coleman Watson Jagielka Baines
Gibson Parkinson
Mirallas Fellaini Pienaar
Jelavic/Anichebe

Cant split the forwards at the min, prob Jelavic just edging a start


Simply simply lovely

March 28, 2013, 06:35:40 PM
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Meak


do i be a martyr and say "well i'd pick mucha ahead of southall" .......
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March 28, 2013, 06:38:24 PM
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Did we really play Hinchcliffe on the right in that match?

No.  It was a weird formation though, Hinchcliffe was kind of left wing back with Jackson right wing back.  2 sitting midfielders (Horne and Parkinson)  and 2 attacking midfielders (Limpar and Stuart) supporting Rideout on his own.  pretty much a perfect gameplan executed that day, a lot of us containing United but we broke away to get a goal lead and sat on it
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March 28, 2013, 07:55:40 PM
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Mick 1995

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March 28, 2013, 08:00:16 PM
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DEL PIERO


not having the c/m pairing - no way.
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March 28, 2013, 08:04:56 PM
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Silas

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Parkinson was brilliant as was Limpar.