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October 01, 2013, 05:52:12 PM
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After seeing john stones preseason was really impressed with him especially against juve, having to play up against the powerful llorente and tevez. Don't get much harder than that.

However if you are defending a a lead against both Chelsea and Newcastle you would naturally think that heitinga would be the first choice to come in with his experience. Under moyes no doubt it would have been the case.

It's the one thing that has impressed me Martinez, his faith to play youngsters such as Barkley and stones. It must give them a great deal of confidence knowing if I'm good enough age means nothing.

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October 01, 2013, 05:56:14 PM
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I felt for Stones last night, having to come on for the last 5 minutes after conceeding a second. Think we could have done a better job of seeing out those few minutes, kept the ball in the corner when Deulofeu passed the free kick to Lukaku it didn't really work.
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October 01, 2013, 06:41:08 PM
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What will that do for his confidence? Defending a lead, and the manager gives you the nod over a World Cup finalist. I think the writing is on the wall for Johnny - he's not moaned on twitter, and says the right thing online. I'm sure he's not happy and wants out asap - fair play to him... but seriously impressed with Martinez, and his faith in the kids.
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October 01, 2013, 07:17:16 PM
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Played right back didn't he?

Hasn't that been tried and failed with Heitinga before?
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October 01, 2013, 07:19:06 PM
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Played right back didn't he?

Hasn't that been tried and failed with Heitinga before?

We went to a back 3 I thought.

October 01, 2013, 07:42:25 PM
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We went to a back 3 I thought.

I think it was more like 9-1-1
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October 01, 2013, 08:11:12 PM
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I think John Stones will be a very good player for us soon. It would be great if he proved to be a ready-made replacement for Distin for when (if ever) his legs start to go. Stones has that composure and ball playing ability we will need at the back with the new regime.

It seems to me that while he's unlikely to learn anything technical just coming on for 5 at the end to help us withstand a barrage, it's clear that Martinez is trying to get him used to the pressure involved when defending a lead in the prem. I think it represents a massive show of faith in the guy's ability that he would take that risk. Martinez must have high hopes for him. Looking forward to see if he can be the Barkley of our defence soon

October 01, 2013, 08:12:11 PM
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I think it was more like 9-1-1

You mean the terrorist attacks or have we managed to smuggle an extra outfield player on?
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October 03, 2013, 05:54:27 PM
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This thread might be more pertinent on Saturday if Gibson isn't fit as it may well be a choice between these two for a starting place with Barry being barred.

I think RM would go with Heitinga.
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October 03, 2013, 05:59:13 PM
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Martinez was also in for Stones when we got him I think.
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October 03, 2013, 06:31:24 PM
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Martinez was also in for Stones when we got him I think.

Yup, Wigan had a bid accepted aswell but Stones chose us.
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October 03, 2013, 09:31:05 PM
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Swerve Heitinga. I have always liked him but it's time to blood in the youngsters, give them the chance and confidence to play. Some of our young players are outstanding at the moment.

October 03, 2013, 10:58:24 PM
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If we know Heitinga isn't going to stick around next year I see no reason to give him minutes over players who are on a near equal playing field to him that will be here next year.
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October 04, 2013, 12:57:13 AM
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I just hope we can get something for Heitinga in January but he will be able to sign a pre-contract with other clubs at that point. Almost worth it to let him go for very little or nothing and save the money on his high wages.

I suppose if Alcaraz gets fit for a long enough period of time we would be more likely to let Heitinga go.

October 04, 2013, 05:48:34 AM
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I just hope we can get something for Heitinga in January but he will be able to sign a pre-contract with other clubs at that point. Almost worth it to let him go for very little or nothing and save the money on his high wages.

I suppose if Alcaraz gets fit for a long enough period of time we would be more likely to let Heitinga go.

He came out recently and said he had offers this summer but didn't fancy them. Also said he might look to leave in Jan as that will be his last chance to impress before the WC. Hopefully that will increase our chances of getting a fee for him!