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Man Of The Match :(

Howard :(
1 (2.5%)
Coleman :(
0 (0%)
Stones :(
16 (40%)
Distin :(
1 (2.5%)
Baines :(
0 (0%)
Barry :(
1 (2.5%)
Barkley :(
2 (5%)
Deulofeu :(
0 (0%)
Mirallas :(
0 (0%)
McGeady :(
4 (10%)
Lukaku :(
1 (2.5%)
Naismith (Sub) :(
9 (22.5%)
Osman (Sub) :(
0 (0%)
McCarthy (Sub) :(
5 (12.5%)

Total Members Voted: 40

Author Topic: Everton v Crystal Palace  (Read 35055 times)

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April 14, 2014, 09:32:54 PM
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maxieblue


need an early goal

April 14, 2014, 10:16:08 PM
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ihatecollina


Early goal and the ground rocking.... thats what we need
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April 14, 2014, 11:29:57 PM
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howard1334


What you wont get against Palace is space or time. Naismith behind Lukaku who I hope continues to make runs to create Naismith a bit of space. They will know doubt play narrow and tuck their full backs in so I'd like to see Mirallas play down the right which gives Coleman more opportunity to get forward, likewise McGeady on the left with Baines. With 2 covering defensive midfielders I think our full backs will have licence to get forward overlap and create a chance or two.

----------------Lukaku-----------------
McGeady------Naismith--------Mirallas
---------Barry----------McCarthy------
Baines----Distin------Stones--Coleman
----------------Howard-----------------

I would play Barkley instead of Naismith. Don't get me wrong, I like Naismith, but I think Barkley offers a bit more as a starter and Naismith is better at coming off the bench. Plus, Naismith played over the weekend. Arguably, Naismith's clever movement might be what is needed to breakdown Crystal Palace, but I think Barkley's long distance shooting threat and ability to drive at the opposition and cause multiple players to collapse around him might help open up Palace a bit.

I would definitely hope to see at least one of McGeady or Mirallas. I think McGeady deserves a start after a number of fine cameos, while I still think Mirallas offers more overall than Gerry and really does not deserve to start on the bench for two games in a row, particularly when he played so well against Arsenal and then did not even get a minute against Sunderland.
« Last Edit: April 14, 2014, 11:33:30 PM by howard1334 »


April 14, 2014, 11:53:55 PM
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pjk


I would play Barkley instead of Naismith. Don't get me wrong, I like Naismith, but I think Barkley offers a bit more as a starter and Naismith is better at coming off the bench. Plus, Naismith played over the weekend. Arguably, Naismith's clever movement might be what is needed to breakdown Crystal Palace, but I think Barkley's long distance shooting threat and ability to drive at the opposition and cause multiple players to collapse around him might help open up Palace a bit.

I would definitely hope to see at least one of McGeady or Mirallas. I think McGeady deserves a start after a number of fine cameos, while I still think Mirallas offers more overall than Gerry and really does not deserve to start on the bench for two games in a row, particularly when he played so well against Arsenal and then did not even get a minute against Sunderland.




I agree with most of what you've said here. Ossie needs to be held back as a sub really, that would create a space in the first 11. Mirallas deserved a game at Sunderland but Maybe Bobby was trying to keep him fresh. Mcgeady has shown when he's got on that he's also worth a start. What a great problem for Roberto to have to contend with. I'm just wondering if giving Gerard more gametime has anything to do with reducing payment liabilities with Barcelona. (HaHa, Did I just say "BARCELONA"!!) Quick someone pinch me, I must be dreaming.
« Last Edit: April 15, 2014, 12:25:26 AM by pjk »
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April 14, 2014, 11:58:27 PM
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I would play

Mirallas Barkley McGeady

But feel bad not playing Naismith, think he can come on in second half and wriggle about making space when Palace are tired. Feels so good to have these options though!
« Last Edit: April 14, 2014, 11:59:01 PM by Lizz88 »
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April 15, 2014, 12:03:03 AM
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I think Naismith has offered far more than Barkley the last few games...so I'd start with him based on that and on the fact Naismith will have a better chance exploiting the little space we'll have in their third. I'd be worried Ross will find himself running into brick walls at times and will be a useful impact sub.
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April 15, 2014, 12:03:31 AM
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Evertonian in NC


Agree with Lizz 100%.  We will have impact subs regardless.

Lukaku's played a lot, like the flexibility to bring Naisy on for him if/when the score so dictates.
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April 15, 2014, 12:05:12 AM
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howard1334


I would play

Mirallas Barkley McGeady

But feel bad not playing Naismith, think he can come on in second half and wriggle about making space when Palace are tired. Feels so good to have these options though!

When all fit, Martinez now has to choose between seven different players for three positions, all of whom have different attributes that allow them to really contribute to the team in a variety of different ways. We have never had this sort of options at any position since I started following Everton. Martinez can set us up to play with a variety of different styles just by selecting three different players.

Peinaar (LM, ACM)
Osman (ACM, LM, CM)
Naismith (ACM, RM (though I don't think he should really ever play there))
Barkley (ACM, CM)
Mirallas (RW, LW, ACM)
McGeady (RW, LW)
Gerard Deulofeu (RW, LW)

Barkley and Osman can also play CM if needed too, while I suppose, after the Arsenal game, Lukaku is even a RW option.
« Last Edit: April 15, 2014, 12:11:18 AM by howard1334 »

April 15, 2014, 12:09:30 AM
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Bluedylan


I think Naismith has offered far more than Barkley the last few games...so I'd start with him based on that and on the fact Naismith will have a better chance exploiting the little space we'll have in their third. I'd be worried Ross will find himself running into brick walls at times and will be a useful impact sub.

Agree with you mate. I think against a strong defensive side like Palace, who will look to park the bus, and hit us on the counter with quick wingers Naismith will be an important player with his movement around the box, trying to unlock them. I would actually play both Naismith and Barkley and would be very tempted to play the 4-3-3 that we played against Arsenal with this lineup:

               Howard
Coleman Stones Distin Baines
       McCarthy    Barry
              Barkley
               
              Naismith
Lukaku                    Mirallas
« Last Edit: April 15, 2014, 12:10:22 AM by Bluedylan »
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April 15, 2014, 12:09:31 AM
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howard1334


I think Naismith has offered far more than Barkley the last few games...so I'd start with him based on that and on the fact Naismith will have a better chance exploiting the little space we'll have in their third. I'd be worried Ross will find himself running into brick walls at times and will be a useful impact sub.

Though I agree Naismith has been playing well, let us not forget that Barkley had a very solid outing against Newcastle (that goal!) and earned rave reviews for his play against Arsenal (albeit while playing less far forward than he, or Naismith, usually do). I think he is in line for a start. You are definitely right however, that there is the potential for Barkely to try to force his way through a very compact Crystal Palace.

April 15, 2014, 12:10:04 AM
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howard1334


Agree with you mate. I think against a strong defensive side like Palace, who will look to park the bus, and hit us on the counter with quick wingers Naismith will be an important play with his movement around the box, trying to unlock them. I would actually play both Naismith and Barkley and would be very tempted to play the 4-3-3 that we played against Arsenal with this lineup:

               Howard
Coleman Stones Distin Baines
       McCarthy    Barry
              Barkley
               
              Naismith
Lukaku                    Mirallas

Fair shout this.

April 15, 2014, 12:13:27 AM
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Can Palace really afford to park the bus?  I would think they aren't quite safe enough to be happy with a point.
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April 15, 2014, 12:15:52 AM
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Can Palace really afford to park the bus?  I would think they aren't quite safe enough to be happy with a point.

They're seven points clear, their objective from now until the end of the season is not to lose. I think even if they didn't get another point they'll just about be ok?

April 15, 2014, 12:17:50 AM
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howard1334


Can Palace really afford to park the bus?  I would think they aren't quite safe enough to be happy with a point.
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While they still might look to score, they are certainly going to try to remain compact and hit us on the break. Also, I think Crystal Palace would be very happy with a point at Goodison, even at this point in the season. If they try to play us heads up, they are liable to get torn apart. Staying compact at least gives them a shot at, what could be, a very valuable point.

April 15, 2014, 12:19:13 AM
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Bluedylan


Can Palace really afford to park the bus?  I would think they aren't quite safe enough to be happy with a point.

Yeah it would take a remarkable series of results for them not to be safe at this stage. In terms of parking the bus, it's just how they play away (and sometimes at home, ie our game at their gaffe this season). They'll be delighted if the scores are level with 20 mins to go.

I honestly think, let's go 3 up top and try to blow them out of the water early doors. Then we can kick back into tiki taka and open them up at will, as they chase the game.
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