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September 01, 2014, 12:46:21 AM
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Danny Higginbotham on BT is just as bad as Michael Owen.

September 01, 2014, 03:35:39 AM
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Well I watched Torino - Inter and, like every other game where a back three comes up against a back three, exactly fuck all happened. Handanovic saved another penalty and that's it.

Fucking dour, defensive Serie A!

September 04, 2014, 02:52:14 AM
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Argentina beating Germany 2-0 in Germany in a WC final rematch.


September 04, 2014, 02:59:20 AM
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Strong sides out?

Strong for Argentina, but no Messi.

Probably one or two first XI players for Germany, but still a good team given their depth.

September 09, 2014, 01:56:05 AM
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On paper that team has a nice balance. But Wilshere is nowhere near good enough to be the lone pivot.

Also, I've noticed in nearly every game I've seen him, but Hart's distribution is absolutely terrible. He just mashes it every time he has it. Roll it to a free defender you bell sniff.

September 09, 2014, 02:04:15 AM
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Haha the Phil Jones school of defending. Tackle someone by falling over. He's just not a natural defender.


September 09, 2014, 04:17:35 AM
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Only saw the first twenty minutes, but this game confirms my long held suspicion that diamonds are fucking boss.

The problem with it though, is the player at the base needs to be very good. And Jack Wilshere isn't.
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September 09, 2014, 04:20:39 AM
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What about Wilshere though?

I've edited it so I don't look any more silly :smug:

But yeah Jack Wilshere. Neat and tidy. That's it. Can't control a game. Plus, his attitude to the game is that of a twat.

September 09, 2014, 04:28:05 AM
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It was clear as day a 4-3-3 although I don't know how to prove that or indeed if there is a difference. I suppose you could say that Wilshere was at the back but a 4-3-3 doesn't have to stay in lines like that!

Looked like a diamond to me, albeit I saw only a small amount of the game. I see what you mean in that the forwards split when out of possession to track the opposition full backs which would make it more of a 4-3-3.

But still a 4-3-3 uses a single pivot in midfield ordinarily, as with a diamond. Jack Wilshere doesn't look up to it, but who is?

September 09, 2014, 04:46:22 AM
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There's not much difference really between a diamond and a 4-3-3, in defence it was often a definite 4-3-3 (at least in the first half), in possession it was probably more of a diamond, except Wilshere's movement was atrocious and he was never available when the central defenders were looking for him. When Sterling moved in the middle, it was definitely a diamond though.

All in all it was an okay formation with enough variation and fluidity but still just about enough players knowing where they were supposed to be.

I saw Wilshere was getting fairly tightly man-marked in the 20-25 minutes I saw. He should have responded by varying his movement more or by quickening his passing. He did neither.

September 09, 2014, 04:51:03 AM
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Yes I suppose the defining characteristic would be that the front man in the middle of a 4-3-3 is clearly a striker whereas in a diamond formation, it's a classic number 10.

So was it the diamond that we played so effectively last season against arsenal?  I thought it was a 4-3-3 at the time.

I think that was the beauty of it. We could switch between them and Arsenal didn't know whether they were coming or going.

We nominally lined up 4-3-3, but Naismith dropped right off to the tip of the midfield, and Mirallas and Lukaku cut in aggressively from their wide positions, turning it in to more of a diamond.

Gary Neville explains it very well in this video. It seems to me if 'blurring the lines' is one of the most important aspects of football, that game was a brilliant example of it.

MNF - Roberto Martinez's Genius
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September 09, 2014, 08:09:22 PM
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Henderson is a good player. He might be a candidate for the 'wilshere role'. I remember in the games he played as part of a double pivot with Gerrard, when Gerrard went off, Henderson did a good job of directing things from deep. Trouble is, Henderson is perfectly suited to a role as one of the shuttlers on either side. He can't do both.

September 10, 2014, 02:14:26 AM
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Why are the Netherlands playing 3-5-2? Hiddink said they would abandon it and return to 4-3-3.

September 13, 2014, 10:42:28 PM
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Costa hat trick.

September 14, 2014, 02:42:37 AM
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From what I saw of the game - admittedly not a lot - it looks as if the ref let Villa kick Balotelli out of the game. Says more about Villa's shithouse tactics and how they get away with it than it does Balotelli's performance.