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Man of the Match

Howard
1 (2.3%)
Coleman
5 (11.4%)
Stones
0 (0%)
Jagielka
18 (40.9%)
Garbutt
15 (34.1%)
Besic
0 (0%)
Barry
0 (0%)
McCarthy
2 (4.5%)
Mirallas
0 (0%)
Lukaku
1 (2.3%)
Barkley
0 (0%)
Lennon (Sub)
1 (2.3%)
Naismith (Sub)
0 (0%)
Gibson (Sub)
1 (2.3%)

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March 01, 2015, 11:00:26 PM
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pjk

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It is sad how much we resemble Wigan this year. We make a lot of inexcusable individual errors and look increasingly confused in the final third.



That's one of the worse things about all this pressure we're under. We've got some very high quality professionals playing for us. To see them getting confused and worried about making mistakes in the middle of a game is worrying. I've seen it before in everton relegation battles. As I mentioned earlier I didn't see or hear the game but it sounds like par for the course in this game too. Being reasonable about the situation we need some points on the board plain and simple. I'm holding back what I think as I concluded a while ago we need to get behind the manager. If it wasn't for the Uefa cup I wouldn't be able to hold my feelings back concerning the league debacle. If we get relegated it will literally bring a grown man to tears. But that's enough about that. Bring on Stoke.
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March 01, 2015, 11:02:30 PM
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Everton Mint


Last season Martinez took over an excellent Moyes team with his fierce attitude and effort +  added Lukaku.

Now they have Martinez lax attitude & tiki-taka style and end up where we are now.

Has to go and get a proper PL manager.


March 01, 2015, 11:03:58 PM
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Django


Didn't even bother to rush home in time for this one. Just knew we'd do fuck all.

Caught the second half.

We're far too easy to beat these days. It's as though Bobby is happy as long as we play okay, which we did today - but we didn't play well either.

March 01, 2015, 11:10:29 PM
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Then he'd be manager of two teams that got relegated within three years. Even Neil Warnock never pulled that off. That's Paul Le Guen-level failure.

If he got us relegated, Martinez might have trouble getting a sniff from a League 1 club.

Actually Avram Grant was in charge of 2 teams that got relegated in 2 seasons - Portsmouth one year and West Ham the next, although to be fair Portsmouth was a sinking ship and West Ham were pretty much on the decline as well.

I wouldn't be too worried about Martinez on a career level if things ended badly with him here, judging by our performances in the Europa League, a few European clubs might be interested, I could see him even manage a mid-table Spanish Primera Division team. Otherwise, he could form a very solid career as a football pundit on TV.

March 01, 2015, 11:13:53 PM
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Fucking hell. Talk about relegation.

March 01, 2015, 11:14:52 PM
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Polledreng

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100th defeat to Arsenal apparently..... :eh:
blame Roberto

March 01, 2015, 11:15:53 PM
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NomadskiEFC

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Very concerned about us here.
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March 01, 2015, 11:16:50 PM
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pjk

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Actually Avram Grant was in charge of 2 teams that got relegated in 2 seasons - Portsmouth one year and West Ham the next, although to be fair Portsmouth was a sinking ship and West Ham were pretty much on the decline as well.

I wouldn't be too worried about Martinez on a career level if things ended badly with him here, judging by our performances in the Europa League, a few European clubs might be interested, I could see him even manage a mid-table Spanish Primera Division team. Otherwise, he could form a very solid career as a football pundit on TV.




Do you work at the job centre?  :)
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March 01, 2015, 11:17:08 PM
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Shogun

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Moyes' team lost 2-0 away to the 4th place side earlier today as well.

Nice bit of symmetry.
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March 01, 2015, 11:19:58 PM
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Tony Clifton


Actually Avram Grant was in charge of 2 teams that got relegated in 2 seasons - Portsmouth one year and West Ham the next, although to be fair Portsmouth was a sinking ship and West Ham were pretty much on the decline as well.

I wouldn't be too worried about Martinez on a career level if things ended badly with him here, judging by our performances in the Europa League, a few European clubs might be interested, I could see him even manage a mid-table Spanish Primera Division team. Otherwise, he could form a very solid career as a football pundit on TV.

I wouldn't give a fuck (about his future) if things ended badly with him here.  Also, I don't want to see him doing punditry on CL games again, at least not while we're in the shit and he's our manager.  A bit embarrassing that.
« Last Edit: March 01, 2015, 11:20:43 PM by Tony Clifton »

March 01, 2015, 11:21:51 PM
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Tony Clifton


Moyes' team lost 2-0 away to the 4th place side earlier today as well.

Nice bit of symmetry.

Moyes out. ;)

March 01, 2015, 11:26:40 PM
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toffee_scot





Do you work at the job centre?  :)

Haha. I have experience before of interviewing people for positions and screening CVs. But I'm happy to be on standby if Roberto is looking for a recruitment consultant ;)

March 02, 2015, 12:00:45 AM
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Everton Mint


Just read Martinez post-match comments..  the guy is totally in denial.

Made my mind up - MARTINEZ OUT.

March 02, 2015, 12:01:09 AM
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74Blue


The sad thing is if in some alternate universe Moyes managed us the rest of the season would anyone not be confident in an upturn in results? These players should be doing better.

I'm not advocating a Moyes return, just this seems squarely a problem rooted in Martinez's approach. The thing that trips me up though is that it wasn't his approach last season. We actually played with 2 wingers for one thing. We didn't bottleneck the center of midfield and slow things down to a snails pace.

As much as I don't like to praise Rodgers, you have to look at how he's changed tactics this season and it paid dividends. Martinez in comparison comes across as some sort of tika taka zealot who is too stubborn to change his ways.
You could bring a Tony Pulis in if all you are looking to do is grind out enough results to stay up. Everywhere he's been, he's toughened up the back four and made them more difficult to beat. If you aren't conceding, there's always a chance of sneaking a few wins. Personally, I still think that Tim Howard's shitness this season has been a massive part of our problem. When teams attack us, I have no confidence in Howard being able to pull off a great save. The back four must be just as conscious of this too.

March 02, 2015, 12:23:48 AM
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Actually Avram Grant was in charge of 2 teams that got relegated in 2 seasons - Portsmouth one year and West Ham the next, although to be fair Portsmouth was a sinking ship and West Ham were pretty much on the decline as well.

I wouldn't be too worried about Martinez on a career level if things ended badly with him here, judging by our performances in the Europa League, a few European clubs might be interested, I could see him even manage a mid-table Spanish Primera Division team. Otherwise, he could form a very solid career as a football pundit on TV.

Ahh, yeah, Avram. But to be fair to Avram Grant (a phrase I never thought I'd type out), he was working under two absolutely miserable ownership situations those seasons. I'm not sure Portsmouth even had an actual owner at the time. Though Avram may have still pulled it off even without interference from above.

And Le Guen probably could have gotten two Prem teams relegated in consecutive seasons if he was managing Chelsea and ManU.
Everton forever.