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March 20, 2015, 04:24:18 AM
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True, I would be genuinely gutted if Big Bryan goes




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March 20, 2015, 04:34:49 AM
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It just seems like Martinez thought, "we're full of confidence so let's go attack". So fucking naive.

He hasn't learnt a thing and his selection and tactics have been right about 5 times all season.

Not sure I can stomach his bullshit anymore, just be fucking real with us for once and admit we were shit. They scored 5 on us, that's not because they were "phenomenal", it's because we were shit.

I wouldn't be surprised if he went in the summer if a good candidate became available.

March 20, 2015, 04:48:33 AM
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Really pissed off with that result. Probably the most important game for years and Everton fucked up.

Credit to Dynamo though, they scored a couple of fantastic goals, the rest was poor defending.

If Barkleys' shots had been on target we wouldn't be moaning here.

March 20, 2015, 04:57:37 AM
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It just seems like Martinez thought, "we're full of confidence so let's go attack". So fucking naive.

He hasn't learnt a thing and his selection and tactics have been right about 5 times all season.

Not sure I can stomach his bullshit anymore, just be fucking real with us for once and admit we were shit. They scored 5 on us, that's not because they were "phenomenal", it's because we were shit.

I wouldn't be surprised if he went in the summer if a good candidate became available.

this is the rub.

March 20, 2015, 07:46:47 AM
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Honestly don't think Ive been as pissed off/devastated with a result since that semi final in 2012...  (I was plastered during the quarter final debacle against Wigan) to lose in that manner is just horrible

March 20, 2015, 11:50:39 AM
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Wasn't surprised at the result but was at the scoreline. 
And I don't think we really were as good as our previous EL scores suggest.   I think we probably overestimated how good we really are.  We can't be totally crap in the league yet be brilliant in the EL. A lot of it depends on the opposition we face and luck on the day.  Wolfsburg, and both Young Boys matches all could have easily ended differently.
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March 20, 2015, 12:01:23 PM
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With sound tactics Jags and Stones are more than capable of being our first choice CB pairing.

And if one of them gets injured or suffers a loss of form ? We need to think bigger than that as we found out last night and this season as a whole.
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March 20, 2015, 12:26:29 PM
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And if one of them gets injured or suffers a loss of form ? We need to think bigger than that as we found out last night and this season as a whole.

Oh - yeah we need another CB if for no other reason than Distin will be going and so should Alcaraz.


March 20, 2015, 01:44:04 PM
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March 20, 2015, 01:57:08 PM
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Think McCarthy and Coleman are getting off lightly. Coleman's worst defensive performance for years and Kiev targeted him with great success, while McCarthy looked lost in the centre, chasing shadows and leaving huge gaps at time.
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March 20, 2015, 02:00:07 PM
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Think McCarthy and Coleman are getting off lightly. Coleman's worst defensive performance for years and Kiev targeted him with great success, while McCarthy looked lost in the centre, chasing shadows and leaving huge gaps at time.

You have to ask why though?

Is McCarthy firefighting? Is Coleman exposed/offered no cover either in front or behind him?

March 20, 2015, 02:12:52 PM
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Thought Atsu did well covering Coleman, was disappointed when he went off.

No idea who was playing in central midfield with McCarthy - with Barry spending a lot of time helping out at the back, it seemed we were playing with 9 men at times.
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March 20, 2015, 02:20:31 PM
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ive had all night to think about the result with working a nightshift and i still cant fathom out martinez tactics at all, we were winning 2-1 yet he sent a team out as if we needed to win by a few goals, it was so gung ho it was untrue, is he really so naive? he seemed hell bent on scoring he left us totally exposed at times, he forgot that we also needed to defend, he said hes not going there for a 0-0 well that would of seen us through you fool. it worries me the effect it may have on us for the remaining games and if thats the best martinez can come up with were still in deep shit

March 20, 2015, 02:22:25 PM
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Thought Atsu did well covering Coleman, was disappointed when he went off.

No idea who was playing in central midfield with McCarthy - with Barry spending a lot of time helping out at the back, it seemed we were playing with 9 men at times.


Tend to agree, but who sent them out to play like this? No matter what way its viewed its Martinez fault, either he sent them out like this which was basically shambolic (most likely based on other games this season) or they have such little respect for his methods they just do what they want (also likely given how he sets them up most games).

March 20, 2015, 03:13:39 PM
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ive had all night to think about the result with working a nightshift and i still cant fathom out martinez tactics at all, we were winning 2-1 yet he sent a team out as if we needed to win by a few goals, it was so gung ho it was untrue, is he really so naive? he seemed hell bent on scoring he left us totally exposed at times, he forgot that we also needed to defend, he said hes not going there for a 0-0 well that would of seen us through you fool. it worries me the effect it may have on us for the remaining games and if thats the best martinez can come up with were still in deep shit
I can see that argument mate, but if we'd gone for a 0-0 and then got hit with 2 goals, he'd have been slaughtered for not trying to get an away goal.
I don't want to put the majority of the blame on one player, but Alcaraz created chaos in our team. He was identified as the weakness and Coleman, Jags were all over the place trying to cover his arse as he is so slow. Baines played shite too and is weak defensively. I would have at least brought Stones on after they scored because he has composure.
A sad night but a reality check I think. As for Martinez? I'm trying really hard to be patient but my heart says fuck him off because "the margins are phenomenal" and I'm sick to death of them.