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August 17, 2018, 01:40:52 AM
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Gash

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Yeah I was just kind of agreeing with you in a muddled up way. We cant all just post inspiring insights like yourself.

Oh don't worry, I can't talk shite too, just not as often or as well as you. :)

August 17, 2018, 01:48:16 AM
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KoemansNumberTens


Oh don't worry, I can't talk shite too, just not as often or as well as you. :)

Haha practice makes perfect.

August 17, 2018, 03:37:33 AM
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Hibs out of Europe, Rangers go to Russia, and Celtic gets shipped out to Lithuania.

Quality teams in Scotland, for sure...


August 17, 2018, 04:38:10 AM
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Hibs out of Europe, Rangers go to Russia, and Celtic gets shipped out to Lithuania.

Quality teams in Scotland, for sure...

No one said they were quality, well, apart from die hard Rangers and Celtic fans.

The way I see it is this, Scottish football is poor and obviously nowhere near the level of the Premier League and in the main the Championship either. But if everyone said "it's shit" about various leagues then we wouldn't bother watching Championship, League One or League Two football never mind non league and amateur football but every level has it's fans.

I'm not saying Scottish football is good but (and I know people will say I'm as bias) it's not that bad, it has it's level and much like a lot of League One and Two games, there's some pretty decent games in it. If anything Rangers and Celtic's short comings (although Celtic have qualified for the group stages in the last few years) in Europe has become a stick to beat them with, yet if teams at the same level as some people see them at somehow got into Europe they'd be supporting them as underdogs and willing them to do well. We can't really say Scottish football is the equivalent of League One football then laugh when they get knocked out of Europe. I do but that's as much to laugh at the fans than the club. :)

The only reason people throw in the "it's shit" shouts is that people compare it to the Premier League a lot of the time and that's where the other side of the argument comes from. If you watch it in context and don't expect it to be world class then it can be quite good, just like the Championship, League One and League Two who people say Scotland's top league's at a level with. Most people that say it's shit never even watch games anyway but probably sit and enjoy many lower league games in England.

August 18, 2018, 06:05:47 AM
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What's the opinion like up there Gash in relation to having Premiership U20, Welsh, Irish, Northern Irish and now English teams competing in the Challenge Cup? Is it a good thing or is it being treated as as unnecessary as having U21 teams playing in the Football League Trophy down here?
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August 18, 2018, 06:17:12 AM
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What's the opinion like up there Gash in relation to having Premiership U20, Welsh, Irish, Northern Irish and now English teams competing in the Challenge Cup? Is it a good thing or is it being treated as as unnecessary as having U21 teams playing in the Football League Trophy down here?

I haven't really heard many comments on it to be honest. It's a bit like the Johnson's Paint Trophy (or whatever it is these days) so it's not really a competition that get's much exposure. I think the final averages about 7-8k fans then, had 40 odd thousand when Rangers won it then dipped back to the few thousands. Personally I think it's a bit daft but if that's what they want to do then it's up to them, it's just another daft Scottish football thing, a bit like having the League Cup in group stages first and the top 6 spilt that they do in the Premiership.

They need a big restructure here rather than just messing around with cups and splitting the table at the end of the season.


August 19, 2018, 10:53:35 AM
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Is this for real @Gash? 10m
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August 19, 2018, 04:37:26 PM
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Is this for real @Gash? 10m

Seems to be a few places reporting it, although they're all just rehashing the same story. I don't think they'd let him go for that much though. Even without the Champions League money they'll still be pretty well off and there would be a fans revolt if they took 10m for him just to make up a CL shortfall when most of the criticism has been due to lack of recruitment in the first place.

August 24, 2018, 02:15:00 AM
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Suduva (?) 1-1 Celtic in Europa League qualifying. Yeesh.

Celtic could well need to sell Tiernay if they keep on going like this. Albeit, you'd expect them to win the home leg.

August 24, 2018, 04:28:34 AM
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Suduva (?) 1-1 Celtic in Europa League qualifying. Yeesh.

Celtic could well need to sell Tiernay if they keep on going like this. Albeit, you'd expect them to win the home leg.

They'll be hoping to repeat the last time they met at Parkhead, pumped them 8-1.

They're probably in a better position that Rangers, only won 1-0 at home.
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August 24, 2018, 05:08:58 AM
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Thought Id gone nuts seeing Lafferty for Rangers after he scored for Hearts last week
I'm more trusting of fellas when they have my cock in their mouth

August 24, 2018, 06:37:15 AM
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Thought Id gone nuts seeing Lafferty for Rangers after he scored for Hearts last week

Can't stand that cunt. Would love to chin him
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August 24, 2018, 11:29:37 AM
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Scottish football's shite because of the Old Firm not despite them. They're not really massive clubs anymore either, they are in Scotland but outside of Scotland not that many people are arsed about Scottish football, in fact, inside of Scotland not that many people are arsed about Scottish football either.

Scottish football and the Old Firm have been left behind by all the other big leagues in Europe. The influx of money hasn't helped either, as Warburton has said, players would rather leave and go and play in the Championship and earn more money,(plus it's a better level) you only need to look at the Scottish national side, it's made up largely of Premier League squad players and Championship players. Rangers have a bit of a cheek moaning about that though, given that they were taking players from the SPL into the fourth tier of Scottish football with the lure of big wages.

The structure's all wrong as well, they had a chance a year or two ago to revamp Scottish football and all the did was copy the names of the English leagues such is the lack of idea in Scottish football. There's also not the population to sustain a decent level of support and therefore income for the clubs, low populated towns and the lure of the Old Firm are a huge problem with central belt and east coast full of small, poorly supported clubs. It'll never happen because football is so tribal but if they cut it down to three leagues of 10-12 clubs and merged several together it would make a huge difference. Dundee and Dundee Utd are on the same street and both looking in to new grounds, why they don't ground share is bonkers. As an extreme they could even merge the clubs, one club in Dundee being successful and getting 15-20k at a game is better than the two yo-yo clubs they have at the moment. Same in the central belt, Hibs and Hearts can just about stand on their own two feet but and Edinburgh club getting 30-35k at games would be brilliant. Clubs like Falkirk and Livingstone constantly live hand to mouth, they could perhaps merge, Livingstone only came from the fall of Meadowbank and probably ended up taking supporters from Falkirk.

Clubs like Clyde, Clydebank, Partick, Hamilton, Motherwell, Dumbarton, Morton, St Mirren etc spend their lives going up and down the leagues struggling to survive. Kilmarnock have a lovely stadium but can't get 5000 through the gate most weeks, Ayr barely getting a few hundred, maybe they could merge to form an Ayrshire club. Like I said due to the tribal nature of football merging will never happen but until something is done to change it massively, Scottish football is always going to struggle.

It's Jason Cummings by the way. :) It's a shame really, Everton used to always have a fairly strong connection with Scotland having had some club greats over the years. I don't really watch enough Scottish football to see the players but I can't think of any in the Scottish Premiership that I'd want at Everton. The problem with the SP is that it's probably not much better than League 1 in standard so for any player to go to the Premier League is a huge jump in class.
You know nothing about Scotland or Scottish football.

August 24, 2018, 02:20:10 PM
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Gash

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You know nothing about Scotland or Scottish football.

Great contribution to the discussion. Try adding something worthwhile rather than tell someone born and bred in a country they know nothing about it.

So, are you Rangers or Celtic?
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August 24, 2018, 05:45:11 PM
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Why do Scotts have long skinny dicks?

Because they're so fucking tight fisted.

 :badum:

Sorry.