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April 16, 2019, 04:52:50 AM
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Who’s making it into the first team out of this lot then?

I’m proper out of touch with this crop of youngsters.

Hey there mister can you tell me what happened to the seeds I've sown
Can you give me a reason sir as to why they've never grown


April 16, 2019, 04:58:39 AM
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Gibson was very impressive mate. Gave the pen away but I won't be surprised to see him playing real football very soon.

Modern Cb; physically imposing, headers, blocks, bollocking people, but also very very comfortable bringing the ball out and breaking lines dribbling.


He’s with the first team here. Seem to be making an effort to make sure you know he’s with the first team.

Can go left back as well can’t he?
Hey there mister can you tell me what happened to the seeds I've sown
Can you give me a reason sir as to why they've never grown

May 09, 2019, 04:16:28 AM
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Double winner's, first team to do it as well, I wonder we'll get any sort of recognition on SSN. Probably not

Most our fans aren’t arsed so I doubt sky are.

I didn’t even know this was happening tonight tbh.

Hey there mister can you tell me what happened to the seeds I've sown
Can you give me a reason sir as to why they've never grown


May 09, 2019, 03:50:08 PM
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Reckon we’ve done very well from that crop of players.

Davies, DCL, Kenny are all first team players with over 50 appearances each.

Dowell and Robinson are both very good players who should have a future in the premier league.

I think that’s as good as you can expect from a under 23 crop.

Hey there mister can you tell me what happened to the seeds I've sown
Can you give me a reason sir as to why they've never grown

May 09, 2019, 03:51:00 PM
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But success for the U23s shouldn’t be winning trophy’s. It should be about bringing youngsters into the first team or selling academic players for a substantial profit.


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Have we not been doing that though?

Hey there mister can you tell me what happened to the seeds I've sown
Can you give me a reason sir as to why they've never grown

May 09, 2019, 05:02:31 PM
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Players are coming through and we’re winning things, don’t know what the issue is?

Extremely unfair to call unsworths football ‘hoofball’. Maybe it’s changed now, but that team he had of dowell, Davies, Kenny etc played good football.
Hey there mister can you tell me what happened to the seeds I've sown
Can you give me a reason sir as to why they've never grown


May 09, 2019, 05:10:57 PM
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City and Chelsea have the resources available to stockpile youngsters with no intention of ever playing them.

Poor comparison imo.
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Can you give me a reason sir as to why they've never grown

May 09, 2019, 06:12:07 PM
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It’s not comparison - it’s what we should aspire to. It’s having a plan, rather than just waiting for the next Rooney to emerge.




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We have a plan, and that will become a lot more effective with Brands in charge.

Our plan is to integrate a way of playing from the under 9s right through to the first team, creating a clear pathway for players good enough to become members of the first team.

City and Chelsea just stockpile young players and sell them on for inflated fees with no intention of ever developing them.

 
Hey there mister can you tell me what happened to the seeds I've sown
Can you give me a reason sir as to why they've never grown

May 09, 2019, 10:02:25 PM
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That plan sounds great, but it isn't what actually has been happening at the club like.

If someone said to you : our plan is to hold players back so they are playing for years against other kids at the same level but younger and less physically developed than them, play kick and rush football that doesn't represent at all what the first team do in an effort to get results at this level before the players leave on frees to league 1 clubs, would you say that is a good strategy?

I'm made up for the u23s and I think there's some real talent there, but I guarantee there will be some changes coming to that department.

That our plan is it yeah?

My mistake. Crack on fella.

Hey there mister can you tell me what happened to the seeds I've sown
Can you give me a reason sir as to why they've never grown

May 10, 2019, 12:08:04 AM
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Well that's what's happening whether you like it or not.

Stop stating your opinions as matter of fact.

There’s obviously changes that brands will like to make and those changes are already afoot, but unsworth deserves a lot, lot more credit than you’re wanting to give him.

As I say, I haven’t watched them this season but the ‘hoofball’ stuff that you talk about surprises me as they didnt play that way when I used to watch them

Three players in DCL, Davies and Kenny who are first team regular.

I don’t think any changes made to the academy will change anything in terms of the amount of players that break through from the academy.
Hey there mister can you tell me what happened to the seeds I've sown
Can you give me a reason sir as to why they've never grown

May 10, 2019, 01:12:18 AM
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Only 1 of them 3 is a first team regular and he was bought and and will probably be replaced in the summer

They’re all first team players.

Hey there mister can you tell me what happened to the seeds I've sown
Can you give me a reason sir as to why they've never grown

May 10, 2019, 03:22:15 PM
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Fair enough, I'll reign it in.

Yeah like I say I don't think our hit rate is terrible, and I like to see us buying in players like Holgate, DCL, Lookman, talent acquisition for that level is massively important, all your kids can't come from Bootle ffs.

But, you don't think any changes made to the academy will make any difference to its success at producing players? Am I misunderstanding that or something because that seems an extremely strange thing to think.

Might be a slight improvement, but I don’t see anything changing significantly to be honest.

How many premier league teams constantly churn out players from the academy for the first team?

What brands will do here is nothing different to what a lot of teams are already doing.

I think we’ve had a good record over recent years in producing players from the academy anyway.

Only thing I see changing that much is turning youngsters over for profit, instead of flogging them to the age of 21/22 and releasing them.
Hey there mister can you tell me what happened to the seeds I've sown
Can you give me a reason sir as to why they've never grown