But that's just it "given the money" as you say. But Moyes has never really had an ample amount to spend and especially to spend at the right times- which is key. Yes, he has a safety approach first but it has served u well in the recent past and because we don't have cash to spend on the attacking power we need.. Remember we came 5th twice which is a magnificent feat for a manager without real spending power. You cn't compare him to Wenger and Ferguson becuase they have had different environemnts at their repective clubs. It's too easy to say They would have done better at Everton than Moyes has, it doesn't work like that. All I can se is that we've made a coniderable amount of progress but we as supporters have to also learn, that it's too easy to change from an safety type side to a real postive one because we do not possess the "tools" or "weapons" to do so. Spurs can with pacey/quality players because the have Defoe, Lennon and Bale; Man Utd can with Rooney/Nani; Chelsea can with Kalou/Malouda; we cannot. Moyes has done the best he can with the equipment he has (so to speak).
No one is arguing that point. Everyone knows that Moyes has taken us as far as he can with the resources available, thats painfully obvious. That aside however, what the argument is, is Moyes' supposed tactical ineptness. West Brom are a Championship team that are playing ok at the moment. A team like that should not even in a million years be dreaming of coming to Goodison Park and winning in the manner they did. The financial backing, or lack thereof had absolutely no direct baring whatsoever to Saturdays result. The team we had out there, where a team that a couple of weeks ago was being touted for Champions League place.
But again, you're mising the point, or at least mine. You say Ferguson, Wenger and Moyes can't be compared, but they can. How else do you measure success? Can Kendall and Moyes be compared? The game is different now to what it was in the 80's, but in 50 years time, people won't take into consideration the "Top 4". They'll look at trophies won, compared to what? A 4th place finish? FA Cup Finalists? Jesus, does Nil Satis Nisi Optimum mean nothing to Evertonians anymore? When Ferguson took over United, they weren't as different as Everton were when Moyes took the job. They hadn't won a trophy in 20 odd years. Old Trafford had seen better days. They were a team on the decline. 15 years later, Ferguson had led United to back to back Premier League wins, Champions League win, FA Cup winners, compared to what with Moyes? Fair do's he still has a while to go before he gets 15 years with us, but you begin to see my point? Now the difference there between United in 86 and Everton in 02 was who was/is in charge of the respective clubs. United had a board who had the drive, ambition and business acumen to take them to where Ferguson wanted. We have Kenwright.
But put finances aside a minute, as we all know, or should see at least how catastrophically the board has let down the manager, players and fans, what my main point was, even when Ferguson and Wenger were building the dynasties that they currently preside over, how often did they have to sit through performances like we did at the weekend? Its not the first time for us. Since 2002 how many times have we had to sit through teams put 4, 5, 6 or 7 past us? How many times has that happened to Ferguson and Wenger. Moyes is supposed to be the best manager "outside the Top 4". I'll be honest, i fucking hate Redknapp, i think he is one of the most overrated people in football today, but how often has Spurs, or Pompey when he was in charge their suffer those kind of results? What about Rafa Benitez when he was at Liverpool. I'd like to say the that at 3pm, its the players that cross the white line and take the responsibility, but think about it? 5-1 at City in 2004; The away UEFA Cup leg in 2005; Arsenal how many times? How many times have we failed to turn up for a derby game? The results last season against Benfica and then again away at Sporting. There is only 1 common denominator here. I love Moyes, and what he has done for the club. But there is onbly so many times you can be humiliated before you have to say enough is enough.