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August 24, 2017, 04:20:53 PM
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How anyone can judge Klaassen based on a few minutes of football is beyond me. He has barely played and has just arrived from a tier 2 European league to the best league in the world, so at least give the guy a few months to settle in.

Footballing relationships on and off the pitch take time to bed in, and you can't just expect him to be off and running in the first game.

To me, he has shown some real quality in parts of his play, and should come into his own in the second half of this season. But please give him (and Sandro) a chance to get settled in before judging him.


August 24, 2017, 04:20:58 PM
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pjk


Due to the reports coming out of Holland on how classy he could be, most; myself included, expected more from Klaassen earlier on. Obviously, this hasn't happened. I still reckon there's a lot more to come from him in the quality stakes. I'm not sure about everyone else, but I see a very progressive highly skilled link up merchant, with a quality footballing brain. I still think despite how lukewarm he's been getting going, he is still our best signing this summer, with the exception of Sigurdsson.

His style of play appears to be quite technical, he will need the other players to start to gel before he starts to show what he has to offer. I've got no problems with him. I'm sure he's going to make the grade. He reminds me of a player called John Mcgovern. Was similar in his attributes playing for Nottingham Forest. I don't think Mcgovern had the skill available to him that Klassen Possesses, but Forest won the European Cup twice with him in their team. Klaassen's one of those players you need in a team to win big. I'm sure he's going to flourish given time. :)
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August 24, 2017, 04:27:38 PM
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Macca77


Are people seriously doubting this lad already?

Please fuck off


August 24, 2017, 04:32:47 PM
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pjk


Are people seriously doubting this lad already?

Please fuck off



Do you think I'm doubting him then? I've just said he's superior to John Mcgovern. He was one of Brian Clough's mainstay vital ingredients for league championships and European cups. I do believe he's been signed to do a similar job. You might not recognise Mcgoverns abilities as it was back in the day. Believe me, he's not being doubted.
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August 24, 2017, 04:34:24 PM
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Mad this thread yano

August 24, 2017, 05:02:49 PM
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MrWhite


Mad this thread yano

Seems to be mostly people reacting to the idea that somebody somewhere doesn't think he's up to scratch.

Who those people might be I have no idea, nothing I've read or heard in the last few weeks would lead me to believe that is the case!


August 24, 2017, 05:57:57 PM
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Do you think I'm doubting him then? I've just said he's superior to John Mcgovern. He was one of Brian Clough's mainstay vital ingredients for league championships and European cups. I do believe he's been signed to do a similar job. You might not recognise Mcgoverns abilities as it was back in the day. Believe me, he's not being doubted.

Wasn't aimed at you, there seems to be quite a few on here who have already come to the conclusion that he's not good enough though.

Well if that's the case, Sandro isn't either.


August 24, 2017, 05:58:31 PM
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nah, cut @Ross some slack here. There has been plenty of negativity.
Now, some of the below may be out of contect in parts (and the main offender has come around to our way of thinkging).
But bare in mind that some of us think he is performing highly *right now* and creating chances. To see this kind of thing is baffling:

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I'm not sure how you can say that tbh. He's been really average so far and I'd have Davies instead of him against city and Split.

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It's very early doors but I'm not really sure what he offers us right now.

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Yeah, I like his first time balls and stuff, he's tidy but he's not blowing me away with cleverness particularly.

His passing and game involvement stats from the rest of his career would point to a tidy, busy player who doesn't get too involved in moving the ball or building play, but will very happily lay on the final ball or goal, I'd be surprised if he deviates from that and so far he hasn't so 🤷🏻‍♂️

Like I say I'm still backing him and I think he'll do well but I don't think he's been particularly impressive in regards to pure midfield play.

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Surprised to see everyone being so positive.

Was tidy but ultimately quiet for me.

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The lads miles off in the premier league.

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He's been a bit underwhelming so far but it's early days.

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Im more than willing to. However my expectations were for a level of performance a lot higher than what we've seen so far. Ajax captain and all that jazz.

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Just thinking that it could have been Barkley playing instead of him makes me sick.

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Did he? Feels like he's hardly played. Just shows how much of an impression he's made on me so far.

You can't see all that in one thread (and potentially come up against equal bollocks in real life & matchday threads and not begin to form an impression that people have got it in for him when you are of the opinion he has been playing really well in his first competative games.

August 24, 2017, 06:07:23 PM
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nah, cut @Ross some slack here. There has been plenty of negativity.
Now, some of the below may be out of contect in parts (and the main offender has come around to our way of thinkging).
But bare in mind that some of us think he is performing highly *right now* and creating chances. To see this kind of thing is baffling:

You can't see all that in one thread (and potentially come up against equal bollocks in real life & matchday threads and not begin to form an impression that people have got it in for him when you are of the opinion he has been playing really well in his first competative games.

Yet you quote me in that post when I've been generally positive about him.

He's off the pace in the premier league, that's to be expected.

Yet people seem to be taking this quote as me writing him off?


August 24, 2017, 06:13:08 PM
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I don't understand why we can't critique his performances thus far? As said, saying he's struggled with the pace of the league and the physical nature is by no means writing him off. Just means he's got to adapt and learn We're all hoping he will.

August 24, 2017, 06:13:51 PM
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Yet you quote me in that post when I've been generally positive about him.

He's off the pace in the premier league, that's to be expected.

Yet people seem to be taking this quote as me writing him off?

You're looking at it from your one, individual point of view.Of course you remember everything you said and the context it is in.
I know that the guy who was most negative @brap2 has come around, because i had direct interaction with him.

But if you're reading through this thread, chances are you aren't doing so with a little tally box, making notes on who said exactly what in what order.
It's just "fucking hell, there's another negative post, and another and another".

So yeah, you are right in thinking things are nowhere near as negative as @Ross thought. But you're wrong in thinking it's crazy for him to have got to that opinion.

August 24, 2017, 06:14:27 PM
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Apologies for expecting a bit more from a £26m seasoned international and former club captain of a championship winning side who also played in last seasons UEFA cup final.

From now on I'm gonna big up every signing and laud their immense talent in a weird Roberto Martinez fashion until such a day as they are sold. Whence they shall be considered to be shite.
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August 24, 2017, 06:18:00 PM
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pjk


Apologies for expecting a bit more from a £26m seasoned international and former club captain of a championship winning side who also played in last seasons UEFA cup final.

From now on I'm gonna big up every signing and laud their immense talent in a weird Roberto Martinez fashion until such a day as they are sold. Whence they shall be considered to be shite.




I thought it was 23.6 million. Fuck me, he's not worth 26 million. ;)
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August 24, 2017, 06:18:02 PM
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You're looking at it from your one, individual point of view.Of course you remember everything you said and the context it is in.
I know that the guy who was most negative @brap2 has come around, because i had direct interaction with him.

But if you're reading through this thread, chances are you aren't doing so with a little tally box, making notes on who said exactly what in what order.
It's just "fucking hell, there's another negative post, and another and another".

So yeah, you are right in thinking things are nowhere near as negative as @Ross thought. But you're wrong in thinking it's crazy for him to have got to that opinion.

I wouldn't say I was that negative about it, just felt he looked a bit over awed and didn't look for the ball. I still think he'll have about 20 touches a game in the middle of the park which isn't great.

But, we hopefully won't be playing him in the middle of the pitch, he's just there to be productive and work his ollies off which I think he will, so can't get behind him enough at this point!
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August 24, 2017, 06:22:15 PM
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Not many players in that position are boss straight off the bat, there is definitely a player there, just needs time to come to terms with the physicality and speed of the premier league