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September 01, 2017, 04:09:38 PM
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Elgoodo1978




Channing Tatum as Barkley


I was thinking more Stephen Hibbert for Ross

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September 01, 2017, 04:10:44 PM
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SANA_DR0


But as always we have no idea what discussions have taken place between him and the club do we, he was offered a contract, refused it, that's all we know.

all i know is Koeman said many times it will be sorted this week, (or before a date) in the end Koeman was left as confused as the fans.
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September 01, 2017, 04:11:16 PM
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I do feel Spurs have manipulated this for their own financial gain and in doing so have hung Barkley out to dry


September 01, 2017, 04:12:03 PM
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It's funny how people can still excuse the little cunt.

September 01, 2017, 04:12:04 PM
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Let's face it, if the same thing had happened, say with Kev, Lukaku or Bolassie; they would never have made it to London without countless selfies all over the net as direct proof. Ross is going to slide around like a dark world creature. We might never know the truth. I don't see why someone like Moshiri would openly lie and damage an impeccable reputation. It doesn't make sense from that perspective. "Anyway"! I need a rest from the Ross B hate fest. The quicker he's gone the better.
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September 01, 2017, 04:13:23 PM
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I do feel Spurs have manipulated this for their own financial gain and in doing so have hung Barkley out to dry
Looks that way. Really dislike the way Spurs do business....always on their terms and I'm glad players are starting to revolt.


September 01, 2017, 04:15:18 PM
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I don't know why people are so surprised he turned down Chelsea. Over the last 10 years or so going to Chelsea has been a poor move for more than one young English player.

He'd was in a situation where everyone expected him to leave, but the move he wanted (to Spurs) wasn't coming off. He had to do something.... the offer from Chelsea comes in so he starts the process because it would be stupid not too. Then it doesn't feel right so he pulls out.

I know people are upset (to put it mildly) about the whole situation but pulling out of a last day rushed deal to go to a club that hasn't got a good record a looking after young English players isn't actually a strange thing to do at all. Actually its quite sensible.

Just to make it clear I am proper gutted about the fact he's leaving, but I don't hate him for it.



They have a pretty decent record of winning trophies the past few years, better than anyone in the English game in fact, so if you back your own ability it's a great move. Worked out well for Gary Cahill. Regardless of nationality if you're good enough you'll win trophies at Chelsea, managers come and go but the trophies keep on coming. Absolute bonkers to turn down the champions of England, serial trophy winners and champions league regulars for a side who have a history of winning nothing.

September 01, 2017, 04:47:23 PM
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Walked away from a great move for him and us considering his contract situation, to get himself an ever bigger payday in January. Hope he doesn't play for us again. 

September 01, 2017, 04:56:34 PM
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I can accept his reasoning might be selfish, but ultimately sound and what almost any footballer would do in his present situation, that's even without knowing what really goes on at Finch Farm.

What I find indefensible is the fucking cowardice of it. He leaves his supposedly fellow Evertonians to speculate and in some cases fall out over him, at least Lukaku always stated his intentions.

I can only see it as Ross knows some things are better left unsaid, because as long as he stays schutm there is still room to hope he loves us, personally I'd rather he or his agent had the gonads to issue some kind of statement instead of things coming out 2nd hand through Koeman and Moshiri.

On that note, the only way I'll be happy to see him in the Royal Blue is that he has made some kind of statement or even better, actually signs a contract. No more silence is golden for Ross.
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September 01, 2017, 04:59:07 PM
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They have a pretty decent record of winning trophies the past few years, better than anyone in the English game in fact, so if you back your own ability it's a great move. Worked out well for Gary Cahill. Regardless of nationality if you're good enough you'll win trophies at Chelsea, managers come and go but the trophies keep on coming. Absolute bonkers to turn down the champions of England, serial trophy winners and champions league regulars for a side who have a history of winning nothing.


It worked out for Cahill but it hasn't worked out for a fair few others, the point being many of those others were never even given any real game time. Even now Chelsea have loads of players loaned out all over the place who will never get a chance to play for them.

Its not absolute bonkers to turn them down at all. There could be whole list of reasons... he could have spoken to Conte and not got on with him, he could have been told he'll get limited game time, he could already know a few of the lads there and not like them, it could have just been a gut feeling, there could be other reasons.

Also going to a team just because they are already successful isn't necessarily as ambitious as wanting to go somewhere to help make them successful.

September 01, 2017, 05:02:31 PM
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BlueBeagle


It's funny how people can still excuse the little cunt.

What are you talking about?

It's clearly Koemans fault for challenging him, the fans fault for expecting something like progress from him, Moshiris fault for being mates with Jim White and Spurs fault for being tight and not making a bid.

September 01, 2017, 05:18:15 PM
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It worked out for Cahill but it hasn't worked out for a fair few others, the point being many of those others were never even given any real game time. Even now Chelsea have loads of players loaned out all over the place who will never get a chance to play for them.

Its not absolute bonkers to turn them down at all. There could be whole list of reasons... he could have spoken to Conte and not got on with him, he could have been told he'll get limited game time, he could already know a few of the lads there and not like them, it could have just been a gut feeling, there could be other reasons.

Also going to a team just because they are already successful isn't necessarily as ambitious as wanting to go somewhere to help make them successful.

Not really massively valid reasons though are they. The younger players who didn't make it have come through the ranks and left as they were presumably viewed as too inexperienced for a club who aspires to win the big trophies. He'd go in there as a £35m signing, experienced Premiership player and international. He'd be the 4th attacking midfielder in a side that plays three of them every game. Ample opportunity for game time.

If he was genuine about wanting to play champions league football they can guarantee it every year. If he was genuine about wanting to win trophies they can pretty much guarantee that every other year too. Spurs have flirted with success and never quite got there and could easily slip back into the Europa league positions in any given season, notably this one I think.

He strikes me as a little boy lost; not confident enough about his own ability, not strong enough to take criticism and not mature enough to make sensible decisions himself about his own career. I may be wrong but it might be why Koeman can't be arsed with him, he's a very alpha male and Ross isn't.   

September 01, 2017, 05:44:38 PM
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Koeman should take his locker key off him !

He should actually treat him worse than he did Niasse .

September 01, 2017, 05:46:32 PM
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Not really massively valid reasons though are they. The younger players who didn't make it have come through the ranks and left as they were presumably viewed as too inexperienced for a club who aspires to win the big trophies. He'd go in there as a £35m signing, experienced Premiership player and international. He'd be the 4th attacking midfielder in a side that plays three of them every game. Ample opportunity for game time.

If he was genuine about wanting to play champions league football they can guarantee it every year. If he was genuine about wanting to win trophies they can pretty much guarantee that every other year too. Spurs have flirted with success and never quite got there and could easily slip back into the Europa league positions in any given season, notably this one I think.

He strikes me as a little boy lost; not confident enough about his own ability, not strong enough to take criticism and not mature enough to make sensible decisions himself about his own career. I may be wrong but it might be why Koeman can't be arsed with him, he's a very alpha male and Ross isn't.   

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September 01, 2017, 05:48:41 PM
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Walked away from a great move for him and us considering his contract situation, to get himself an ever bigger payday in January. Hope he doesn't play for us again. 

No I would deffo give the Goodison faithful a chance to say goodbye over a full 90 plus stoppage time .