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November 19, 2017, 10:25:40 PM
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Coyb12


He looks sluggish and not very commanding but see if we can get a decent centre back in January and have a look at him then.


November 19, 2017, 11:35:25 PM
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99% sure he’s actually garbage.
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November 19, 2017, 11:39:59 PM
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Remember when Jags first joined, he was awful too.
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November 19, 2017, 11:43:19 PM
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Defo not garbage. Like all the other new players, it's very hard to judge him given the shambles he's walked into. Maldini would look shaky in our team at the moment.
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November 20, 2017, 12:46:20 AM
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He needs to be more decisive and he will be fine, step in and get a boot on it, or get his head in there. Build the base first, the nice passing will come next. Needs Rhino to teach him how to defend.
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November 20, 2017, 12:51:09 AM
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Lxxx


Remember when Jags first joined, he was awful too.

We played him defensive midfield and then right back, which for a player whose weakness is his distribution wasn't much of a surprise.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2017, 12:54:29 AM by Lxxx »


November 20, 2017, 12:51:45 AM
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KoemansNumberTens


Remember when Jags first joined, he was awful too.

And Brett angel too. Most of the players who were awful when they first joined..... just turned out to be awful

November 20, 2017, 01:35:22 AM
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Cozzie


Reckon we have signed a dud tbh.

Only my early impressions like, but like Bluedylan said he is, in fairness, playing in an incredibly slow and ageing defence and behind a disorganized defensive midfield duo.

Tactics don't help him one bit and I always think when your CB partner is shite you are effectively doing the job of 2 players, which he is.

As much as I love Jags he is a bit too old now, Williams is hopeless, Funes Mori bang average and mental and Holgate not ready yet.

Still reckon there is a good player there, he certainly wasn't shite at Burnley and the way they played suited him. Another top CB next to him with a manager that knows how to set up and we will see an improvement I reckon.

Still long way to go but if I am to judge him based on what I have seen so far he has been pathetic.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2017, 01:36:36 AM by Cozzie »

November 20, 2017, 01:39:58 AM
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Looks like a complete plodder at the moment.

I wonder if we actually scouted these players we bought.

November 20, 2017, 03:09:33 AM
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KoemansNumberTens


hes poor. Maybe Williams and jagielka will look better alongside a quality centre half too. Keane is every bit as much of the problem as they are.

November 20, 2017, 03:23:37 AM
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Heisenberg


Mentioned this as a few times over the past month or so. I see him as a kind of secondary CB. His performance will always be dependent on the man next to him, which is never what you want. I don't really see any character or personality in his play at all. He's a back against the wall defender. Good when the defenders and midfielders are really compact protecting something. Not very good in one on one type of situation and turns like he's just finished 5 roast dinners

November 21, 2017, 06:39:18 AM
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bacon sarnie


Don't like quoting this gonk in here but he's spot on:

“Defending is about being focused. It is not a quality problem. Focus on a situation. When we have the ball be an option to receive it or, if you cannot be an option, give protection. Simple as that. It is not about counter-pressing all the time. Yes, if we can counter-press, then do it. If not, go back and defend together. That is the thing we have lacked in one or two games and I think, and I hope, that we are now a step further in this. Our ‘new’ maturity we will have to show 100% in this atmosphere tomorrow.” J. Klopp

Ahem....

November 21, 2017, 01:30:20 PM
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GrantyBoy78


Mentioned this as a few times over the past month or so. I see him as a kind of secondary CB. His performance will always be dependent on the man next to him, which is never what you want. I don't really see any character or personality in his play at all. He's a back against the wall defender. Good when the defenders and midfielders are really compact protecting something. Not very good in one on one type of situation and turns like he's just finished 5 roast dinners
Yep, he’s a backfoot defender who excels in a compact, organised system - same as Williams.

I see him as another example of the disconnect between Koeman and Walsh. Why would Koeman, who had VVD at Soton; a mobile defender would could play out from the back, suddenly want slow players who are shite on the ball? I know players of VVD’s quality aren’t too common, but isn’t that why we brought Walsh in? We could have at least tried to buy defenders with similar characteristics. Not like money was the issue.

November 21, 2017, 03:39:00 PM
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therealdunc


One thing that no no seems to mention in defence of the defenders, Pickford isn’t great and likes to push them back out to the opposition.

Surprising how Pickford has avoided criticism when he’s been liable for a few goals
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November 21, 2017, 05:23:47 PM
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Rodenplav64


Reckon we have signed a dud tbh.

Only my early impressions like, but like Bluedylan said he is, in fairness, playing in an incredibly slow and ageing defence and behind a disorganized defensive midfield duo.

Tactics don't help him one bit and I always think when your CB partner is shite you are effectively doing the job of 2 players, which he is.

As much as I love Jags he is a bit too old now, Williams is hopeless, Funes Mori bang average and mental and Holgate not ready yet.

Still reckon there is a good player there, he certainly wasn't shite at Burnley and the way they played suited him. Another top CB next to him with a manager that knows how to set up and we will see an improvement I reckon.

Still long way to go but if I am to judge him based on what I have seen so far he has been pathetic.


Yep he would look better if we played with 11 behind the ball like Burnley did .