I take it you have not seen them play this season? As impressive in attack as we are not. Last season was a post championship blip. this season they will challenge us for certain. That is why I said 8th, although we might get 7th if the untried DCL scores 15 and Rooney gets 10, and we get 30 more goals from midfield, which is stretching fantasy to its limits. Koeman will be furious. He is left holding the baby.