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September 14, 2017, 02:27:49 PM
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The real irony of this 3 new 10s nonsense isn't that barkley is still our best 10. The real irony is that unless barkley has a change of heart or Klassen picks up massively...... we'll still be needing to sign a 10
Ross maybe, but one 45 in six games doesnt work for a team.

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September 14, 2017, 08:05:20 PM
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Redartin


Not wishing to start another thread about this, but from what I have read on a few threads now, - a question.

Do we have un-droppable players? or to put it another way, are there players Koeman just seems to stick with irrespective?

whether it is because of the amount of money they cost, or he is too stubborn to admit he was wrong to sign them. Anyone agree with this?

He is a Moyes dressed up in Ancelotti clothes.

September 15, 2017, 04:07:08 AM
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Not wishing to start another thread about this, but from what I have read on a few threads now, - a question.

Do we have un-droppable players? or to put it another way, are there players Koeman just seems to stick with irrespective?

whether it is because of the amount of money they cost, or he is too stubborn to admit he was wrong to sign them. Anyone agree with this?



Well there is unquestionably a pressure to play the new players you've signed.

From the start of the new year, with the players we have (minus injured Barkley and sold Lukaku) we had a decently competitive side but we've kinda made a mess of it.

Pretty much the only player he hasn't dropped is Rooney though. Schneiderlin too I suppose. Can't really count Baines as we literally don't have another LB.


September 15, 2017, 05:41:34 AM
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WeimaranerBlues


thinks its both

only option is to play a diamond with Gylfi in the 10 and Rooney up top with Sandro or DCL


September 15, 2017, 11:10:59 PM
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kramer0


Clearly nobody knows what our best eleven is. But one of the big issues I'm seeing right now is that when we play anybody good, we're totally ineffective building from the back because we're so narrow and predictable, and we can't play the ball long because we're not quick or physical enough up front. So we have no way of making the ball stick in the final third but we have to try to attack, which often leads to cheap giveaways and chances for our opponents.

GK: Pickford
RB: Holgate/Kenny
CB: Keane
CB: Jagielka/Williams
LB: Baines
DM: Gana
DM: Schneiderlin
CM: Davies (maybe Sigurdsson/Klaassen)
RWF: Sandro/Lookman
CF: Calvert-Lewin/Niasse
LWF: Vlasic/Sandro

The idea would be to put out the fastest, most physical front line we can and look to play long passes into the channels for them to chase. Even if we can't win it at the first time of asking, we might be able to pressure our opponents into a mistake which could lead to a chance or just get us into the final third (which is a huge ask right now). One box-to-box midfielder gets forward to join the attack, the other two are tasked with sweeping up everything that comes back at them (both Gana/Schneiderlin do their best work in this sort of role).

When things were going poorly in his second season at Southampton, Koeman had some success grinding out results like this (albeit with some permutation of Mane/Pelle/Tadic/Long in the front three) so it's not implausible that he would try something similar here. Our football is already hideous so it's not like it would be much of a downgrade from an aesthetic point of view. In fact, it might even be an improvement.