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What should we do? (RESET 29 SEPTEMBER, AFTER LIMASSOL GAME)

Fire him now before our season goes tits up
Give him till Christmas.. If performances and results aren't where they should be for what he's spent, he's out
Let's just see how things are at the end of the season
The season has barely begun, he's a great manager and we should get 100% behind him
Ohhh Davey Moyes, Davey Davey Davey Moyes...
Fuck off with your polls, you cunt

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September 11, 2017, 08:58:15 PM
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gizzblue


I'm still optimistic that when we get Coleman and Bolassie back we will see more of the team that Koeman wants to play, add a striker in the mix and after January I think we will look a different team altogether... >takes off blue tinted specs<
You leave them specs on mate ,it beats reading the woe is me shite spouted here.
Optimism is key.
Born not made a blue .


September 11, 2017, 09:10:51 PM
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I get the firm impression that some folks have no time for Martina. Lukaku would probably have scored from 2 of his "aimless crosses" because he would have been there in the box and got to the ball. I am not pretending he is the answer to right back but we fucked up in the transfer market, and as for Holgate, who is a centre back, he is hopeless going forward as we saw last season and we have no winger in front of him. Someone on here said he never wanted to see Holgate play right back again after last season. Go we are goosed for a full back until Seamus returns, or try Besic there? I don't know, and I suspect neither does Koeman, although he knows Martina better than anyone here. 

September 11, 2017, 09:12:40 PM
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gizzblue


Meanwhile Kenny doing a cracking job for the u23'S But RK is too stubborn to admit when he's wrong. 
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September 11, 2017, 09:19:37 PM
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Sir Stealth

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Should we sack him?

No. But things need to improve. He needs to find out a formation that works for the team and get the right personnel on the pitch, rather than shoehorning players into the side just to have them on the pitch
You think Lou Bega knocked it out of the park with Mambo number 1?!No but he kept at it!

September 11, 2017, 09:29:53 PM
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I get the firm impression that some folks have no time for Martina. Lukaku would probably have scored from 2 of his "aimless crosses" because he would have been there in the box and got to the ball. I am not pretending he is the answer to right back but we fucked up in the transfer market, and as for Holgate, who is a centre back, he is hopeless going forward as we saw last season and we have no winger in front of him. Someone on here said he never wanted to see Holgate play right back again after last season. Go we are goosed for a full back until Seamus returns, or try Besic there? I don't know, and I suspect neither does Koeman, although he knows Martina better than anyone here.

There's a lad called Jonjoe Kenny at the club who plays RB for England U21's aswell don't forget.

September 11, 2017, 09:36:33 PM
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everton1952


Throwing more youngsters from u23 into this mess would not work. Did you see Davies' performance after he came on? The game had already gone to shit and he followed suit. Older heads, if there are any, might be better until we stabilize. Before someone mentions the loss of Barry, I see he did WBA no good as they were thrashed. Mind he would have kicked a few Spurs players if he had been there. Lookman has played plenty of league games before he came here, and so have Lennon and Besic. Get them back in. Mid table is a realistic position by the next transfer window, unless Koeman performs a miracle.


September 11, 2017, 09:46:28 PM
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Realist


Throwing more youngsters from u23 into this mess would not work. Did you see Davies' performance after he came on? The game had already gone to shit and he followed suit. Older heads, if there are any, might be better until we stabilize. Before someone mentions the loss of Barry, I see he did WBA no good as they were thrashed. Mind he would have kicked a few Spurs players if he had been there. Lookman has played plenty of league games before he came here, and so have Lennon and Besic. Get them back in. Mid table is a realistic position by the next transfer window, unless Koeman performs a miracle.
That's different because there are other options in Davies' position. Martina is woeful and the longer he plays the more goals we're gonna concede because of him

September 11, 2017, 10:08:07 PM
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Rodenplav64


Throwing more youngsters from u23 into this mess would not work. Did you see Davies' performance after he came on? The game had already gone to shit and he followed suit. Older heads, if there are any, might be better until we stabilize. Before someone mentions the loss of Barry, I see he did WBA no good as they were thrashed. Mind he would have kicked a few Spurs players if he had been there. Lookman has played plenty of league games before he came here, and so have Lennon and Besic. Get them back in. Mid table is a realistic position by the next transfer window, unless Koeman performs a miracle.

I think you will find most of Koemans squad are older but not any wiser than Davies . My opinion of Koeman isn't based on 2 games its based on last seasons efforts against the top teams and our woeful away performances .

September 11, 2017, 10:16:16 PM
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bogie


No, sit tight, hope that Coleman and Bolassie return by November. (Remember Bolassie? some on here thought he was good) and definitely splash out on a goal scorer plus an attacking midfielder in January. 7th is a very tall order with this disorganised squad.

yeah an attacking midfielder is what we need really sort of them

September 11, 2017, 10:20:52 PM
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bogie


best of the rest last year but 2 players in are squad form that year will never get a game under him

out off both cups 1st round helped getting best of the rest

have been shit to watch bar 2 halfs out of 16 this year so far

and back to playing 4 2 3 1 great fucking great


September 11, 2017, 11:41:27 PM
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Bob Sacamano

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Pathetic statement we were on our arses when he took over and ready to drop, he turned is into a top half team with absolutely no money
I think people are quick to forget what Moyes actually did for us

I see Moyes has trained you well. Other than doing what Tony Pulis does season in season out, what did Moyes achieve.

Edit: I removed the question mark at the end because you're a dopey prick and can't be arsed reading shit that you've already repeated 100 times already.
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September 11, 2017, 11:43:30 PM
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Ravardo


FFs because we aint already sacked him now it looks like we're gonna miss out on woy hodgeson :o lolol :wanker:

September 11, 2017, 11:49:35 PM
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BlueForYou


No

Back him to see out his contract
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September 12, 2017, 12:06:58 AM
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Realist


I see Moyes has trained you well. Other than doing what Tony Pulis does season in season out, what did Moyes achieve.

Edit: I removed the question mark at the end because you're a dopey prick and can't be arsed reading shit that you've already repeated 100 times already.

It's still a question and I've never spoke about Moyes so how could I repeat it?

17th, 14th, 13th, 16th, 15th
5 years before Moyes took charge

7th, 17th, 4th, 11th, 6th - in his first 5 years

Even an idiot like you should be able to see that he stabilised the club, we were abysmal when he took over and let's not forget he done all that with no money

Infact Bob Zopiclone I'd go as far as to say we probably would've ended up being relegated if he never took over

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September 12, 2017, 12:18:10 AM
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blueski


Another window means giving him more money to spend, he's already had more since he's been here than Moyes did during his whole reign at the club, saying that he needs to buy a striker or two I know, but his signings are pretty poor & the thing which worries me most is that he doesn't seem to have a clue how he wants to play which you'd hope he would have figured out by now considering most of the team are now players he's signed
for me its too early to tell whether Koeman is good enough

you say about the money to spend but the finances of the club and entire league has improved dramatically. because of this the general cost of players has also increased. so to say he's been given more is true but in 1980 gas was cheaper too, loaf of bread, etc. It was possible to get a proven midfielder for 10m at the time, now the going rate is considerably higher for proven talent - so for me that argument doesn't really work

as for the striker thing its really hard on the outside to know whose fault that is but publicly he was asking for 1-2 at various points in the window so it seems like he wanted one

as for the quality of his signings I'm not seeing the issue - its a mixed bag like any manager but no doubt several have been very very good. Sandro for example might be easy to criticise but also look at the context - is 5m or whatever he cost a bad punt when the going rate for any type of competent PL striker is over 30 - we got what we paid for with him - a squad player who might or might not adapt to the league. Are you critical of the manager's signings or just the general price of players right now which is admittedly ridiculous



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