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September 18, 2017, 01:04:26 PM
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No ,on the fact that Martina is shite beyond belief and seeing the kid play ten times or so ....plenty to see he's better ...doesn't take a genius to recognise shite .
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September 18, 2017, 01:40:43 PM
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September 18, 2017, 01:47:13 PM
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September 18, 2017, 01:52:30 PM
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Kenny won't play ...Martina is koemans friend and live in lover and cant be dropped ...or so it would seem.. ..Kenny is well better forward and defending .

Is he yeah? Mad that because he's not played at all for the first team so it's almost like you're making it up
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September 18, 2017, 02:10:49 PM
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Niasse up front please.

September 18, 2017, 02:23:44 PM
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At least on the bench.

September 18, 2017, 02:31:19 PM
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I'd be fucking well up for an Oumar masterclass.
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September 18, 2017, 03:24:28 PM
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Yep, Niasse would boss it.

All legs, and effort, and deflections, he'll grab a brace, lift our spirits, and mug Koeman off.
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September 18, 2017, 03:54:08 PM
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The assaults on Martina are way over the top. He's not the greatest defender but Coleman wasn't exactly a maestro in that area either. He gets forward and does his job, puts good crosses in. He's doing better than Baines this season and doesn't deserve the criticism when the entire team is performing well below par.

Coleman was shaky defensively when he first came which is why moyes played him right wing rather than have him exposed at full back. However since about December 2012 he has been pretty flawless defensively, cant think of a major fault he has defending and very rarely makes costly mistakes in that time. Martina's level of defending cant be compared in any way to Coleman, you are talking about someone who is and has been one of the most complete right backs in the league for 5 years against someone who lets be honest isnt on our level, or where we should be.

He isnt poor all the time, he was ok yesterday. However his poor moments are of a really bad level and some of the things he does are just really poor in comparison to Baines playing badly he isnt making many mistakes he just isnt doing what we got used to him doing. Defence in any area is a hard position to put up with someone who is inconsistent and range from looking generally ok at most things to doing things like that clearance at home to Spurs last week for the second goal, or the header a few minutes after where he cushioned it down to Kane inside the box. He defends crosses with his back to the play, he has a really poor timing of a leap defensively, he can be easily beaten one on one and he has as we have seen bad errors in him.

As i said it isnt all the time he could be fine on Wednesday then awful on Saturday and cost goals. It's hard to play a defender who has that inconsistency in them because the poor moments cost you goals. If Seamus was fit and playing pretty much every game it wouldnt be a massive issue but because Holgate lacks so much going forward at right back and Martina is playing a lot of games his flaws are being highlighted. It isnt all his fault but he isnt a good right back.

September 18, 2017, 04:09:25 PM
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Martina's ball throwing skills aint upto much either twice yesterday in the first half he threw the ball to utd player and also always throws it long instead of retaining possession ,,there was a throw in towards the end of the first half and instead of rooney passing the ball to martina to take he threw it himself and retained possession

September 18, 2017, 04:42:16 PM
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Is he yeah? Mad that because he's not played at all for the first team so it's almost like you're making it up
Never said first team once so wind yer neck in 😆....Martina is pants easy to see by anyone with an ounce of football sense....it's just another ego trip from a manager who has to use what ' he ' brought in, no matter how shite .

September 18, 2017, 05:27:41 PM
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Joel
Kenny
Keane
Jags
Holgate

Mirallas
Klaassen
Davies
Besic

Vlasic

DCL

September 18, 2017, 05:33:59 PM
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pjk


It would be nice to get a win under our belt. What sort of a team Koeman puts out will be intriguing, to say the least. He knows this Sunderland game is very winnable. Will he put out a very strong side to try and get the ball rolling, or will he put out a weakened side and risk elimination? The side he does eventually put out on Wednesday will very likely be a pointer to how pressurised he's feeling atm. I'm going for a strong side, with players like Rooney and Michael Keane getting a deserved rest on the bench.
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September 18, 2017, 05:58:15 PM
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The Analog Kid


Who the fuck called it the "Carrier Bag Cup"?

September 18, 2017, 05:58:50 PM
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hill135


Keep Pickford in goal but fuck Jags and Williams off and play Holgate next to Keane. Two of Vlasic, Lookman or Kev in the wings and DCL upfront.

That's what i'd hope to see anyway