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September 21, 2017, 02:36:02 PM
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Macca77


Must....win...game, get the season back on track

September 21, 2017, 04:25:11 PM
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Sir Stealth

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                Pickford

Kenny Keane Jagielka Baines

Vlasic Gana Davies Lookman

    Rooney Calvert-Lewin

Personally would go with this team. A midfield full of running and youth. Our most experienced attacker playing just behind the big man DCL. Would like to see Kenny given a run in the side but if Holgate is in there instead and/or Williams is in for Jags then no problem

It might just take a bit of time for Klaassen, Sigurdsson and Sandro to settle. Davies above Schneiderlin on current form for me. Lovely little player
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September 21, 2017, 05:50:30 PM
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Davies is good but he can't do what Morgan's job.

Davies, Schneiderlin, Gueye in a 3 for me at the min.

Or Davies RWB.
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September 21, 2017, 06:01:05 PM
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               Pickford
         Keane Jags Williams
Martina                          Baines
    Davies Schneiderlein Gana
               Rooney
                 DCL

I would go with this. I think Wingbacks will provide more width, and will utilise Martina's attacking ability without exposing him too much in defence. The midfield has a lot of energy and bite to it, whilst DCL has to play up top. The key problem remains that right hand side defensively, but we need to win this game, which is why I would go with Martina over Holgate.

September 21, 2017, 06:06:25 PM
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do we really need 2 DMs at home against lower opposition?
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September 21, 2017, 06:07:19 PM
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BlueForYou


Pickford
Martina
Keane
Williams
Baines
Davies
Schneiderlin
Gueye
Sigurdsson
Rooney
Calvert-Lewin

Bench: Stek, Holgate, Jags, Vlasic, Klaassen, Lookman, Sandro
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September 21, 2017, 07:03:19 PM
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Rhys


I think he will go with;

             Pickford

Martina Keane Jags Baines

Davies Schneiderlin Gueye

Rooney                  Sigurdsson

              DCL

September 21, 2017, 07:18:27 PM
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Realist


do we really need 2 DMs at home against lower opposition?

No I agree it's too defensive

                  Pickford

Kenny.     Fatty.    Keane.    Baines
                   
                     Gana.

Vlasic/Lennon.            Lookman
     
                 Sigurdsson

           DCL.             Rooney

Surely that's got enough to beat Bournemouth?
           

September 21, 2017, 09:52:11 PM
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Rodenplav64


21 goals in the last 5 meetings . Got 0-0 written all over it .

September 21, 2017, 10:09:50 PM
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.Matty


Quite a few spare tickets available on Stubhub for low prices. My mate is trying to sell one in the LB for 30. He's got no chance

September 21, 2017, 10:16:48 PM
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I'm still not sure what our best eleven is but I think we're starting to see bits and pieces of what works. Assorted thoughts:

Back Four: Holgate or Kenny at RB. An absolute no to Martina unless [*shudders*] he's the only choice.

Back Five: Martina or Kenny at RWB. I'd like to see more of Holgate at RCB in this system.

With both Gana/Schneiderlin in midfield: Only one of Rooney/Sigurdsson/Klaassen should be on the pitch (unless it's a rare match where Rooney can play CF or drift in from the wing effectively).

With only one of Gana/Schneiderlin in midfield: We haven't seen it yet but I think you can get away with having two of Rooney/Sigurdsson/Klaassen playing centrally. Sigurdsson has played CM in a 4-4-2 for Iceland and Klaassen, by all accounts, played more of a box-to-box role for Ajax. With that said, you probably want Davies on the pitch.

Wide areas: Sigurdsson and Calvert-Lewin are not wingers and shouldn't play there, unless it's an emergency situation. You can get away with Rooney drifting in from the wing as long as he has adequate defensive protection behind him (i.e. not Martina). We look best with players who can actually run - like Sandro, Vlasic, Lookman, and Lennon - in the wide areas (who would've thought?).

Centre forward: At this point, Calvert-Lewin has earned the right to start. Rooney will be useful against teams that let us advance the ball into the final third easily and challenge us to break them down when we get there (basically just the home leg against Split so far). It'll be interesting to see if Niasse gets any more game time. Sandro can't play CF until he shows a willingness to actually run in behind the defense.

I really hope Koeman learns from what hasn't worked so far. Yes, Chelsea/Spurs/United are good teams capable of hammering anybody, but I think we could have at least made things difficult for them if we had provided any sort of threat, which you don't really get with slow players like Sigurdsson and Rooney drifting around in front of predictable midfield passers. We went out with no way of keeping the ball, which meant that it was always coming back at us, and you can only hold off a top opponent for so long like that. The City lineup only worked because Calvert-Lewin helped drag us out of danger every once in awhile with his runs into the channels.

Bournemouth are an athletic team and despite being a little over-aggressive at times, they have all the qualities to punish a slow, predictable opponent. I'll be disappointed if we get another Sigurdsson + Rooney + two DMs lineup for this one but, given the players rested mid-week, I fear that's exactly what we're going to see.
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September 21, 2017, 10:23:49 PM
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I think he will go with;

             Pickford

Martina Keane Jags Baines

Davies Schneiderlin Gueye

Rooney                  Sigurdsson

              DCL


I also think that is the team Koeman will go with, such a shit team as this season has shown.. we will struggle to attack and be killed by The Cherries.
We need something similar to the other night, youth that arent' afraid to attack.
Would be a perfect match to introduce Kenny to the Premier league.
We deffinately dont need 2 holding midfielders, let alone 3!! If we are to play 3, i'd want Siggy or Klaassen alongside the 2 defensive minded ones.. no point having 3 combative midfielders, Davies and Gana Gueye are playing much better than Schneiderlin.

                  Pickford

Kenny Holgate Keane Baines

Vlasic  Gana  Davies  Mirralas (or Lookman)

           Rooney(or Siggy)
                       DCL

We cant kill the momentum/confidence we got from the Sunderland match by playing the same players that have failed to do anything this year, Hope Koeman is confident/brave enough to play the players on form, in their correct positions.
Unsworth has a 100% League record at home
Norwich 3-0 15th May 2016
Watford 3-2 5th Nov 2017
West Ham 4-0 29th Nov 2017
To Be Continued.....

September 22, 2017, 12:32:58 AM
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Unsworth has a 100% League record at home
Norwich 3-0 15th May 2016
Watford 3-2 5th Nov 2017
West Ham 4-0 29th Nov 2017
To Be Continued.....

September 22, 2017, 02:25:18 AM
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I'm still not sure what our best eleven is but I think we're starting to see bits and pieces of what works. Assorted thoughts:

Back Four: Holgate or Kenny at RB. An absolute no to Martina unless [*shudders*] he's the only choice.

Back Five: Martina or Kenny at RWB. I'd like to see more of Holgate at RCB in this system.

With both Gana/Schneiderlin in midfield: Only one of Rooney/Sigurdsson/Klaassen should be on the pitch (unless it's a rare match where Rooney can play CF or drift in from the wing effectively).

With only one of Gana/Schneiderlin in midfield: We haven't seen it yet but I think you can get away with having two of Rooney/Sigurdsson/Klaassen playing centrally. Sigurdsson has played CM in a 4-4-2 for Iceland and Klaassen, by all accounts, played more of a box-to-box role for Ajax. With that said, you probably want Davies on the pitch.

Wide areas: Sigurdsson and Calvert-Lewin are not wingers and shouldn't play there, unless it's an emergency situation. You can get away with Rooney drifting in from the wing as long as he has adequate defensive protection behind him (i.e. not Martina). We look best with players who can actually run - like Sandro, Vlasic, Lookman, and Lennon - in the wide areas (who would've thought?).

Centre forward: At this point, Calvert-Lewin has earned the right to start. Rooney will be useful against teams that let us advance the ball into the final third easily and challenge us to break them down when we get there (basically just the home leg against Split so far). It'll be interesting to see if Niasse gets any more game time. Sandro can't play CF until he shows a willingness to actually run in behind the defense.

I really hope Koeman learns from what hasn't worked so far. Yes, Chelsea/Spurs/United are good teams capable of hammering anybody, but I think we could have at least made things difficult for them if we had provided any sort of threat, which you don't really get with slow players like Sigurdsson and Rooney drifting around in front of predictable midfield passers. We went out with no way of keeping the ball, which meant that it was always coming back at us, and you can only hold off a top opponent for so long like that. The City lineup only worked because Calvert-Lewin helped drag us out of danger every once in awhile with his runs into the channels.

Bournemouth are an athletic team and despite being a little over-aggressive at times, they have all the qualities to punish a slow, predictable opponent. I'll be disappointed if we get another Sigurdsson + Rooney + two DMs lineup for this one but, given the players rested mid-week, I fear that's exactly what we're going to see.

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Settled back with a plate of samosas, tomato sauce and the Lidl version of Stella and reading through NSNO and come across a @kramer0 mammoth post.

Feeling great again now. Life is good   :)
    

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September 22, 2017, 02:41:16 AM
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                      Pickford
        Kenny Keane Williams Holgate
             Davies Gana Klaassen
               Vlasic DCL Rooney
Subs: Stekelenburg, Baines, Jagielka, Schneiderlin, Sigurdsson, Lookman, Sandro

It won't be, though.

It will probably be..

                      Pickford
      Martina Keane Williams Baines
       Klaassen Schneiderlin Gana
               Rooney Sigurdsson
                         DCL
Subs: Stekelenburg, Holgate, Jagielka, Davies, Vlasic, Lookman, Sandro

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