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September 25, 2017, 04:10:21 PM
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Being Punjabi (indian) myself, I have had racist comments from Everton fans whilst attending matches, I hav'nt been to Goodison since 2012,
What i've noticed is when i go with English people, i dont get looks or feel out of place, When ive been with Asians, people stare, you can hear snide comments and they act like cunts around you..

Watching the youtube videos of pre match at goodison (the video i posted in the ratings thread) and some of Toffee Tvs pre match videos, I still notice hardly any Asians or Black people attending the ground..

the worst experiences i've had are during the the 2003 season i think it was when we played wolves and we won. Ive got a heavy Black Country accent, I had tickets in the main stand, but for some reason the stewards told us to goto the top and to the back.. where there was standing room only.. I had to speak to a police officer due to the abuse we was getting, who got another steward  to eventually take us to our seats. (missing both our goals!)

Had similar issues taking an ex gf to Goodison, watched Arsneal/Man utd and Blackburn that season..

I really want to go and watch us V Limassol, But i'll be going on my own, Just want to know where would be the nicest place to sit where i wont get aggro (if that still happens. if it doesnt then :D :D )

Dont mean to get anyone annoyed or upset, I havent been to Goodison since 2012. I dont want to be abused supporting/watching my club.

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September 25, 2017, 04:14:27 PM
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Wow that's really upsetting, I'm really sorry to hear that.
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September 25, 2017, 04:19:33 PM
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that makes me feel sick inside.....

iwas in Cyprus last year and went to watch an everton game...I was the only evertonian in the pub at the time then an Asian group came in 3 families...one of the lads was a blue and we spent the match drinking together, having a laff and yes slagging us off.....good times...

be bigger than the idiots mate...and don't let them stop you....


September 25, 2017, 04:43:02 PM
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Little bit gutted to hear this, I will be bringing this up at the fans forum on the 5th I need to see if we can improve this , I don't see it but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen, tbh most evertonians seem to be more accepting than others,that is reports from other supporters not just me
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September 25, 2017, 04:44:05 PM
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That's horrendous. Sorry to hear that you have been subjected to stuff like this.
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September 25, 2017, 04:48:25 PM
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Problem is, I can only speak for myself and the people around me at the match. I have never seen or heard this happening in the last 10 years.

Taken, you will always have individuals who would do the same thing if you walked down any road in England. Thats just a minority that you will never educate.

The place is safe and I am sure if other fans heard this type of thing then they would be pulling them up for it. I would.

Can I ask a bit of a mad one.... were you wearing an Everton top? I am wondering if you were mistaken for a rival fan sitting in the home end.... no excuse but its amazing how inner madness can escape people within 90 minutes of a football match. I have never said f-off so much in all my life combined than the 2 minutes when the ref stopped the game for a foul against Bournemouth.

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September 25, 2017, 04:49:21 PM
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Ah it's shitty to hear that. Gutted

I wouldn't expect to hear it anywhere at the ground to be honest. You would expect the most passionate fans to be at the Gwladys, would see the least rowdy places being in the main stand/top balcony

I'm half Asian myself and have never heard anything aimed towards me. Have been the game on plenty of occasions with my Dad who is Chinese and never heard anything on those occasions either, horrible to think that any fans in any stadium should suffer any racist abuse

I really hope you go the game and enjoy it without any idiots ruining it for you
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September 25, 2017, 04:54:59 PM
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yeah, badly shit and (unfortunately) expected to be honest.

Out of 40 thousand people, the massive majority are going to be sound. But the area is pretty racist and so it's easy to believe that in every block of the ground there will be 1 or 2 cunts and (naturally) these are going to be the only people you hear.

Have you sat in the upper Gwladys? Traditionally that's always been full of the more out-of-town students and more mellow than the LG. (New park end can similarly be considered more mellow)
The 3 stands on Goodison road tend to be full of middle-age & older locals who grew up in an era where everybody was a bellend and so i'd imagine it would be one of the worst places to be.

I appreciate you shouldn't have to make allowances like this (and it's not lost on me that i have just lumoed thousands of people into stereotypes based on where they are from/where they sit) but it is what it is for the time being.


Can't wait for all the people who think that because they don't notice it then it mustn't happen to appear though. But Bally is in this thread now, so you'd be a fucking moron to naysay here.
 

September 25, 2017, 04:56:13 PM
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Problem is, I can only speak for myself and the people around me at the match. I have never seen or heard this happening in the last 10 years.

Taken, you will always have individuals who would do the same thing if you walked down any road in England. Thats just a minority that you will never educate.

The place is safe and I am sure if other fans heard this type of thing then they would be pulling them up for it. I would.

Can I ask a bit of a mad one.... were you wearing an Everton top? I am wondering if you were mistaken for a rival fan sitting in the home end.... no excuse but its amazing how inner madness can escape people within 90 minutes of a football match. I have never said f-off so much in all my life combined than the 2 minutes when the ref stopped the game for a foul against Bournemouth.

I was wearing the light blue/silver Keijen 125 anniversary top (only long sleeve top i've ever owned)
and yes, i thought the same, they may have thought i was Wolves fan, once we had been moved from standing against the back wall and where seated, things where a lot better.

Im just slighly uneasy walking from my car to the ground.. im pretty sure they're will be no issues, but i just want to be safe.
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September 25, 2017, 04:56:24 PM
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Unfortunately there is always a dickhead ...but more and more fans now rightly see this as against the clubs ethos and anybody being racist will be in the minority themselves ,and will now be dealt with by being barred from matches if it brought to a stewards/police officers attention. ..

Hope you go the match and have a ball mate ...COYB.

September 25, 2017, 04:59:42 PM
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..... they may have thought i was Wolves fan.......


I would bet my house on it!!! 

Im just slighly uneasy walking from my car to the ground.. im pretty sure they're will be no issues, but i just want to be safe.

Your safe mate! go the game and enjoy!


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September 25, 2017, 05:01:50 PM
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Sorry to hear that. Racism is such an ugly thing and shows there is still so much work still to be done.

The problem with racism is that 99/100 fans are ok, but it just takes 1 idiot to ruin your day, and even that number is too many.

I hope you go and enjoy an Everton win.


September 25, 2017, 05:02:28 PM
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Little bit gutted to hear this, I will be bringing this up at the fans forum on the 5th I need to see if we can improve this , I don't see it but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen, tbh most evertonians seem to be more accepting than others,that is reports from other supporters not just me



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September 25, 2017, 05:05:15 PM
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Gobsmacked to hear this happened in 2017. I have no explanation other than the hope it will not happen again. Most of my friends support Liverpool FC and from conversations it is commonly agreed that the Liverpool fan profile is very different to the Everton fan profile. We joke on here about Norwegians LFC fans and make other remarks of a similar nature. It was said we have far more local postcode residents than the reds.The fact is that LFC's so-called brand name is international and has been established over many years since their undeniable great success in Europe. Consequently any observation via the match cameras show many Asians, Chinese etc. at Anfield, who may or may not be tourists. Everton on the other hand have no international brand name at all in the Far East and I guess an Asian person at Everton  would stand out. No excuse of course.  I think Man Utd also have a good Asian following for similar historical reasons.  The big London clubs are different because of their multi-ethnic population. I hope you come and enjoy Everton home games.

September 25, 2017, 05:05:21 PM
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You deffo wont encounter anything walking to the ground mate.
It is definitely safe in that respect.

The snide part? I reckon much less likely outside.
Well, i'm massivley ignorant to the whole thing so i'm probably not in a position to guess at something like that - but i would say you stood the same chance of verbal abuse as you would walking down any busy street in Liverpool on any day of the week.