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October 01, 2017, 04:21:38 PM
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Hope we put a shit load past these.

Expecting a draw or to lose.
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October 01, 2017, 04:34:26 PM
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Win today, however it comes, and we go 8th which after the start we have had is about par to be honest.

Yes it's been shite to watch but there is still time for him to realise the errors he keeps making and rectify them. I think he's on a game by game judgement at the minute by the fans, up to him how much he's arsed about staying really.

October 01, 2017, 04:59:21 PM
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Don't think there's been much hysteria tbh.

From the last 24 hours on this thread and one other I could be bothered to look into below.



Oh i can't fuckin stand the strain.

our team spirit has been basically distroyed and the management of the squad at every level has been totally inept.

Yeah Koemams ego won't allow kenny much game time over Martina.

Moyes was world class

i only say Unsworth as he will bring some passion to our team and he his team actually play some football.  he isnt too arrogant to make changes.

Koeman actually seems like he is waiting for his next job ;/

Problem is a lot of us havnt seen such piss poor performances in over thirty odd years.

October 01, 2017, 05:05:30 PM
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From the last 24 hours on this thread and one other I could be bothered to look into below.




Ok maybe a little hysteria, but there's also lots of calmer, more considered posters who broadly agree with the sentiment that he needs to go based upon evidence and reason.
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October 01, 2017, 05:06:29 PM
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So far this season Burnley have beat Chelsea away and drew at Spurs and Liverpool.

Let's not pretend this is going to be a push over, they're technically poor but a very well drilled side

October 01, 2017, 05:18:06 PM
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Ok maybe a little hysteria, but there's also lots of calmer, more considered posters who broadly agree with the sentiment that he needs to go based upon evidence and reason.

Yeah for sure. I wouldn't even be upset if we got rid of him as I've never massively rated him, so I'm not particularly confident he'll ever turn out to be a massive success for us.

But, that aside, I think he did pretty well last season and there's enough mitigating circumstances (mostly injuries, a brand new squad to integrate, and a challenging fixture schedule) that it feels premature to say he should be fired now based on the season so far.

Ultimately for me it comes down to what the alternative is. Just getting rid without a sensible replacement lined up would be foolish in my opinion.

October 01, 2017, 05:22:02 PM
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We can't be making an effort ourselves now can we! It has been different at Goodison. Everton are "we", players, fans. If we think we may be able to help then we should try, not just sit there thinking we're the King with his jester.

I know all this about they get paid loads, but we play against teams who also get paid loads, so that's cancelled out. Plus we know this before we go the match. We hurt just the same when we lose as I'm sure fans did in the 19th Century when the players were on their wages then.
I didn't mean that to be turned into a rant sorry.
You're right it hasn't always been like this. Sadly I think it's partly down to a modern culture of believing we have a right that everything should be done for us and done instantly.
It's not just Everton though, it's there throughout football.
Hypocrisy by fans everywhere is both an annoyance and an endless source of amusement.
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You can't believe a f***ing  thing you read in the papers. Koeman should be sacked , The Daily Mail said Messi liked Merseyside and we didn't pick up on it.
TV pundit says we need a centre forward. Never says a good word about us the bellend.

There's a whole new thread in here somewhere.

Back on topic (other) people need to make a noise and create atmosphere.

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October 01, 2017, 05:24:31 PM
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Yeah for sure. I wouldn't even be upset if we got rid of him as I've never massively rated him, so I'm not particularly confident he'll ever turn out to be a massive success for us.

But, that aside, I think he did pretty well last season and there's enough mitigating circumstances (mostly injuries, a brand new squad to integrate, and a challenging fixture schedule) that it feels premature to say he should be fired now based on the season so far.

Ultimately for me it comes down to what the alternative is. Just getting rid without a sensible replacement lined up would be foolish in my opinion.

It's probably understandable we did well in his first season, everyone knows what Koeman did as a player and no doubt they would've been desperate to impress him.
Over time as he's put his stamp onto the team and moulded it into his side we've become unbalanced, slow & shit

October 01, 2017, 05:26:04 PM
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in other threads i've said koeman needs time, and wish he changes as i want him to succeed,

guess the comments i made about having a laugh/joke where missed and where seen as hysteria.. (even tho ive based it on the team and how we are.. but yeah pick on the guys who you assume have a psychological disorder... cant even have jokes with out someone claiming they dont care, caring.) going to give my first tool :D

The only real things in this reality are how perspective is perceived and eventual death...

& Unsworth kicking ass.

October 01, 2017, 05:27:07 PM
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in other threads i've said koeman needs time, and wish he changes as i want him to succeed,

guess the comments i made about having a laugh/joke where missed and where seen as hysteria.. (even tho ive based it on the team and how we are.. but yeah pick on the guys who you assume have a psychological disorder... cant even have jokes with out someone claiming they dont care, caring.) going to give my first tool :D

Don't do it

October 01, 2017, 05:28:42 PM
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Not sure why, but I'm feeling confident about this one.

A solid win here would make all the hysterical doom and gloom merchants on here over the last few days look a bit silly.

Or we might get battered and I'll become one of them.

now that is hysterical, have you seen us play this season? what makes you think for this one match, Koeman will change his whole ethos?


fuck it.

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October 01, 2017, 05:38:21 PM
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in other threads i've said koeman needs time, and wish he changes as i want him to succeed,

guess the comments i made about having a laugh/joke where missed and where seen as hysteria.. (even tho ive based it on the team and how we are.. but yeah pick on the guys who you assume have a psychological disorder... cant even have jokes with out someone claiming they dont care, caring.) going to give my first tool :D

Maybe if you got rid of the massive horrible signature, your posts wouldn't stick out as much :)

To be fair, I did take your quote on Moyes a bit out of context. But you have seriously suggested Unsworth as manager.

October 01, 2017, 05:38:59 PM
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So far this season Burnley have beat Chelsea away and drew at Spurs and Liverpool.

Let's not pretend this is going to be a push over, they're technically poor but a very well drilled side

Let's not hand out the excuses before hand though.

Yeah so far they've done well against the better teams but they've also struggled against others. By far and away their best result was against Chelsea but they were hangling on against 9 men in the end to get a freak win, let's not paint them as something to be feared.

Failing to win today would be very poor. Immunity was meant to have stopped at the Utd game, it can't keep on.
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October 01, 2017, 05:42:45 PM
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Maybe if you got rid of the massive horrible signature, your posts wouldn't stick out as much :)

To be fair, I did take your quote on Moyes a bit out of context. But you have seriously suggested Unsworth as manager.

I'll take it out. why is the sig horrible? its the evolution of our club badge..

Yes i have suggested Unsworth, but not seriously ive said it on a post, it causes fume which provide laughs,

I mention Unsworth as his under 23 team has the opposite ethos of our first team.. I'd want a decent manager, someone who is going to take us up some levels, not only in his name. but his tactics.
The only real things in this reality are how perspective is perceived and eventual death...

& Unsworth kicking ass.

October 01, 2017, 05:58:50 PM
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Same debate going on in about five other threads.