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October 27, 2017, 10:49:40 PM
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blue slug


its fast becoming an eggscruciating eggsperience

Sorry I'll get my coat

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October 27, 2017, 10:51:16 PM
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di_guyo


I remember being ridiculed for suggesting in the summer that Walsh hadn't done anything...lolz.
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October 27, 2017, 10:59:50 PM
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kramer0


The biggest problem I see with Steve Walsh is that nobody seems to know what he really does.

And "nobody" may very well include Moshiri and Kenwright.
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October 27, 2017, 11:02:02 PM
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Audrey Horne

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I remember being ridiculed for suggesting in the summer that Walsh hadn't done anything...lolz.

what is it with grown men typing 'lol, lolz, trololol' all the time?? madness.
I have to return some videotapes.

October 27, 2017, 11:04:31 PM
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Cozzie


I am unsure to what it is he actually does, but to me it SEEMS like he is getting a DOF wage for basically being a glorified scout.

October 27, 2017, 11:26:37 PM
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blue1948


Even a vastly experienced DoF starting a new job at the same time as a new manager with Koeman's strong personality would have caused issues. It was just unfortunate timing as they both will have wanted to establish their own power base at the same time. Should have been half-expected really, especially with Moshiri's comment of 'Koeman is Koeman, he does what he wants and I support him.' Starstruck much!
Good except he said he was happy with the transfers being someone else's jurisdiction


October 27, 2017, 11:29:59 PM
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blue1948


The biggest problem I see with Steve Walsh is that nobody seems to know what he really does.

And "nobody" may very well include Moshiri and Kenwright.
Being a nobody would give an insight then!

October 27, 2017, 11:30:52 PM
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blue1948


what is it with grown men typing 'lol, lolz, trololol' all the time?? madness.
That is sexist Liz and I demand a retraction .

October 27, 2017, 11:31:41 PM
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Audrey Horne

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That is sexist Liz and I demand a retraction .

denied.
I have to return some videotapes.

October 27, 2017, 11:42:41 PM
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blue1948


denied.
Well I fully understand ,the way I portrayed it must have been sexist

October 27, 2017, 11:51:29 PM
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Lxxx


I am unsure to what it is he actually does, but to me it SEEMS like he is getting a DOF wage for basically being a glorified scout.

Contradiction much.

October 28, 2017, 12:02:35 AM
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KoemansNumberTens


what is it with grown men typing 'lol, lolz, trololol' all the time?? madness.
what is it with grown men typing 'lol, lolz, trololol' all the time?? madness.

OMG

October 28, 2017, 12:14:42 AM
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Jimmywhack

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what is it with grown men typing 'lol, lolz, trololol' all the time?? madness.
Makes me vom


Simply simply lovely

October 28, 2017, 12:47:50 AM
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di_guyo


what is it with grown men typing 'lol, lolz, trololol' all the time?? madness.

I sincerely apologise for offending you with my language.

*bore off
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October 28, 2017, 01:03:08 AM
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Ridge


The biggest problem I see with Steve Walsh is that nobody seems to know what he really does.

And "nobody" may very well include Moshiri and Kenwright.

Thought it's fairly obvious what he does and what his remit is.

He's responsible for recruitment, scouting and long term value of the squad. Basically authority on player trading, with a view to increasing the value of the squad through transfers.

From there each DoF and manager has a different relationship, with some DoF more willing to bend or accomodate.

But Giroud is a fairly obvious bone of contention for a DoF. He's going to cost a fair amount of money and he's going to take time away from young players who could be developing. At the end he will have minimal resale value.

I think the best way to judge Walsh is on the transfers. All of them, because ultimately he is not just individually responsible in most cases, but holistically responsible.

I think we are in a similar period to other teams before who have done wholesale changes to first team squad. There is little identity or cohesion and it falls apart every way you cut it.

But I think in terms of Walsh remit, I think he's identified a lot of young talented players.

Last summer we signed established players, Williams, Gana, Bolasie. But in Jan we added Lookman and DCL. This summer we've added Pickford, Keane, Klaassen, Vlasic, Sandro, Onyekuru. All players intended to go into first team, but their first major move.

I don't see Cuco, Rooney or Sigurdsson as our problems. Rooney has chipped in with goals, and we shouldn't have been expecting him to carry the team and I'd rather he stopped trying to same extent. Sigurdsson looks a turd in the punch bowl because of the fee, but actually he's a very useful player if used to his strengths. Cuco has got a fair amount of stick, because Koeman liked him, but he cost next to sod all and he's got an engine that allows us to link play, I've seen worse defenders.

I think time will prove that Walsh acquired good players, I think for Koeman, there just wasn't enough off the shelf options immediately. Part of Walsh's remit is to look at development and longer term to avoid too many Rooney's, Giroud's coming in. We've got a lot of more experienced players since Walsh's arrival, so it's not like he's averse to experience. About half the players we've bought have been 26 or over.