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October 21, 2017, 06:00:08 PM
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Blame him for what? Genuine question what do you think people are blaming him for?

for being a shit striker.. not being good enough.. its not what i think people are blaming him for.. its that they have blamed him. poor lad probably doesnt know if he is playing left winger, right wing back or central striker..

DCL has skills, he has good technique, pretty good first touch, he just needs plays around him so he has someone to pass/help him.. Posters are moaning that he cant keep the ball, he has no one close enough to pass to, when he does the donkey work. no one is there.. be so different if he had a striker partner..

the system/formation doesnt make DCL look good, as i said previous post, Koeman expects DCL to be Lukaku v2.0.. our midfield is so far behind supporting DCL.. i guess thats what happens when you have 2 nullifying players in the middle..
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October 21, 2017, 06:20:00 PM
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for being a shit striker.. not being good enough.. its not what i think people are blaming him for.. its that they have blamed him. poor lad probably doesnt know if he is playing left winger, right wing back or central striker..

DCL has skills, he has good technique, pretty good first touch, he just needs plays around him so he has someone to pass/help him.. Posters are moaning that he cant keep the ball, he has no one close enough to pass to, when he does the donkey work. no one is there.. be so different if he had a striker partner..

the system/formation doesnt make DCL look good, as i said previous post, Koeman expects DCL to be Lukaku v2.0.. our midfield is so far behind supporting DCL.. i guess thats what happens when you have 2 nullifying players in the middle..


You think he's currently good enough to lead the line for a team with ambitions to finish in the top 6. Not sure I'm "blaming him" for it but I absolutely don't think he currently is. You've obviously seen something I haven't

Kane, Sanchez, Lukaku, aguero, mane, morata. They are the forwards (well some of them) that play for the sides that finished last season above us. In fact I'd say probably almost every side in the league has a forward who's currently better. You genuinely don't think playing DCL almost all the time is 1 of our admittedly many problems??

October 21, 2017, 06:21:08 PM
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Lads, stop with the shit straw man arguments.

No one expects him to be Lukaku, no one thinks he's as good as Harry Kane.

Painful to read this.


October 21, 2017, 06:21:14 PM
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DCL cost 1.5 mill and is 20 years of age. He's carrying the hopes of thousands of Evertonians and isn't ready to carry that burden in the prem. The team is not playing well, but no one, in general, can fault him for effort. He needs time to learn and improve. People being critical of his qualities should give the lad a break and take into account the form of the team and the level of expectations, that are being unfairly expressed here.
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October 21, 2017, 06:22:30 PM
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You think he's currently good enough to lead the line for a team with ambitions to finish in the top 6. Not sure I'm "blaming him" for it but I absolutely don't think he currently is. You've obviously seen something I haven't

Kane, Sanchez, Lukaku, aguero, mane, morata. They are the forwards (well some of them) that play for the sides that finished last season above us. In fact I'd say probably almost every side in the league has a forward who's currently better. You genuinely don't think playing DCL almost all the time is 1 of our admittedly many problems??

im not saying that. im saying that we have no one else who is a number 9.
Relying on a 20 year old. who is being played out of position with no support, is not his fault. thats down to the management for fucking up buying some strikers. He shouldnt be starting every game. but if he is, he needs people around him.

Every team in the league has a few strikers, apart from us. THAT IS NOT DCL'S  FAULT.
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October 21, 2017, 06:40:08 PM
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Lads, stop with the shit straw man arguments.

No one expects him to be Lukaku, no one thinks he's as good as Harry Kane.

Painful to read this.

Right now I waould accept is he was the new JMM or Brian MacBride!


October 21, 2017, 06:43:02 PM
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Jesus the only thing I'm happy about this year is the young players, it's the older more experienced ones who are letting us down.
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October 21, 2017, 06:44:58 PM
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KoemansNumberTens


Lads, stop with the shit straw man arguments.

No one expects him to be Lukaku, no one thinks he's as good as Harry Kane.

Painful to read this.

He's currently not good enough. Who is he currently better than who's played similar minutes this season? I'm not blaming him but to suggest he's not 1 of our many problems is laughable

The lad has 1 league goal in how many games? Of course he's not helped by the shower of shit behind him but the shower of shit behind him aren't helped by him either

He may well be currently the worst regular starting striker in the league. I'm genuinely curious as to who's on the list of strikers we think he's currently better than.

October 21, 2017, 06:45:29 PM
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Jesus the only thing I'm happy about this year is the young players, it's the older more experienced ones who are letting us down.

totally this.
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October 21, 2017, 06:47:32 PM
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He's currently not good enough. Who is he currently better than who's played similar minutes this season? I'm not blaming him but to suggest he's not 1 of our many problems is laughable

The lad has 1 league goal in how many games? Of course he's not helped by the shower of shit behind him but the shower of shit behind him aren't helped by him either

He may well be currently the worst regular starting striker in the league. I'm genuinely curious as to who's on the list of strikers we think he's currently better than.


if you've read. we all know he is better than none of them.

but that comes down to management for not buying a better striker.

which striker do we have that your think is better than dcl
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October 21, 2017, 06:48:22 PM
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DCL cost 1.5 mill and is 20 years of age. He's carrying the hopes of thousands of Evertonians and isn't ready to carry that burden in the prem. The team is not playing well, but no one, in general, can fault him for effort. He needs time to learn and improve. People being critical of his qualities should give the lad a break and take into account the form of the team and the level of expectations, that are being unfairly expressed here.

See I don't think anyone is giving him a hard time. I'm not questioning his effort. I'm not questioning his value compared to what we paid. I'm openingly admitting I've no clue how to rate potential past current performances. All I'm saying is that currently he's nowhere near good enough to play regular premier league minutes. People seem to be arguing with me while in fact agreeing.
Not blaming the lad for anything but he's been no better and no worse than the rest of them which is pretty shit so far this season

October 21, 2017, 06:49:55 PM
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KoemansNumberTens


im not saying that. im saying that we have no one else who is a number 9.
Relying on a 20 year old. who is being played out of position with no support, is not his fault. thats down to the management for fucking up buying some strikers. He shouldnt be starting every game. but if he is, he needs people around him.

Every team in the league has a few strikers, apart from us. THAT IS NOT DCL'S  FAULT.


It's not Williams fault that we didn't sign pique. Who is blaming DCL for not signing a striker. I thought we were blaming a combination of Walsh koeman and or moshiri

October 21, 2017, 06:51:53 PM
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also playing him in his preferred role would have helped his development...

lol at the williams comment...
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October 21, 2017, 06:53:11 PM
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KoemansNumberTens



if you've read. we all know he is better than none of them.

but that comes down to management for not buying a better striker.

which striker do we have that your think is better than dcl


I don't think we have any strikers at all. That doesn't make DCL good enough. We seem to be arguing completely different things here while at the same time in complete agreement.

He's possibly the best forward we have (probably sandro who knows) he's also currently a bit shit.

October 21, 2017, 06:54:19 PM
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See I don't think anyone is giving him a hard time. I'm not questioning his effort. I'm not questioning his value compared to what we paid. I'm openingly admitting I've no clue how to rate potential past current performances. All I'm saying is that currently he's nowhere near good enough to play regular premier league minutes. People seem to be arguing with me while in fact agreeing.
Not blaming the lad for anything but he's been no better and no worse than the rest of them which is pretty shit so far this season



He does deserve more room than the out and out criticism that he's getting here. My post is a general post pointing this out. Not a post aimed at anyone in particular. The whole issue speaks for itself.
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