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November 03, 2017, 12:48:48 PM
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Must massively regret the overly positive approach at Leicester.

If we’d set out to play the same way in all 3 games so far you’d like to think that we’d be gaining coherence etc ahead of Sunday.


November 03, 2017, 11:10:52 PM
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even if a new manager comes in, what will change? still will have no strikers, and no centre backs.. or players in midfield who are creative

We’ve seen when set up that way, that we can defend.

It’s only been naive attempts to force wins when we’re low on confidence that have opened the team up again.

So that’s one thing if a manager, secure in their position (as opposed to either consciously or not, treating it as an open audition) will be prepared to grind results out in order to get some confidence back.

Eg a 0-0 last night would have at least showed that we can sort one end out before worrying about the other.

November 06, 2017, 11:41:09 AM
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Thanks for the three points, but I'm out.

We have nowhere near the organization of his U23 teams. It's way too easy for opponents to find space between our midfield and defensive lines which, in turn, makes it easy for them to create chances. The players' spirit has been restored some and we've been better at creating chances ourselves but "better" still means a weak attack, which isn't good enough considering our continuing defensive frailty.

Whatever the reasons for the decisions he's made -- searching for coherence in an imbalanced squad, trying to do things he doesn't normally do in order to impress the higher-ups -- he's not right for the club at the moment. He has some excellent qualities and he has every chance of being an good manager one day but it's not going to happen for him now. I wish him the best, whatever his next move is (back to the U23s, off to a first-team job elsewhere).

I still wish we would look at Walsh's position first but, since that doesn't seem to be forthcoming, it makes sense to get a steadier hand in over the international break.

Just don’t understand why the best shape and therefore performance we played (Chelsea second half) wasn’t attempted to be repeated?


November 06, 2017, 02:23:12 PM
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I didn’t see that game but I’ve heard this a few times, what was the set up?

Nothing extraordinary really, but started with a 433 which was solid but isolated the front 3 as the CMs were “flat”.

Second half Davies was pushed forward a bit, so more 4231, and the distances between players was much better and enabled better control of the ball etc. leading to decent open play chances.


November 06, 2017, 03:30:54 PM
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Natural wide players or tucked in? Lookman or anyone on the pitch? Who was up top, Oumar and Dom?

No was Rooney as 9, Lennon right, Mirallas... left.

Subs moved Rooney to 10, DCL to 9 with Davies moving back to where McCarthy had been; and then swapped Lennon for Lookman.

Last 10 mins went two up front with Niasse but we lost control of the game then as the gaps were back between midfield and attack.

One interesting thing is that McCarthy played much better than Gueye has recently which may have influenced the control a bit.

November 08, 2017, 05:24:01 PM
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Would people be feeling differently if the Watford game was Unsworth's first game in charge? (as it should've been if we'd timed the Koeman sacking intelligently). I suspect a fair few people would. But we've ruined his chances by giving him three hard away games to start with. Top stuff by the powers that be.

I agree that start was tough but no one would have seriously suggested just letting Koeman carry on because they were expected losses ;)

Personally think that the Chelsea and Lyon games were better for his longer term prospects as they had a balanced team with a clear plan for the opposition and that were coherent with each other.

The league games have been wild in comparison.

Watford was a fluke game (our first ever where we’ve been 0-0 at half time, gone 2 goals down and come back to win).

Wish he’d played the same way (as Chelsea and Lyon) in all 4 games but with just minor tweaks.


November 08, 2017, 07:59:56 PM
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To be fair he's still trying to unpick the tactical and squad mess he's been left with. At least he's not failing and making the same mistakes.

Dont agree.

He’s had some good ideas but he’s also got the league selections wrong.

We’ve changed shape from game to game. He’s been forced into big selection / tactical changes in both league games despite having evidence from the previous cup game that there is a decent balance to be had in the squad.

If the problem was sorting out the previous tactical mess then keep things simple and consistent, especially when you don’t have many training sessions in between matches.

The best performance bits have been with the best balance to the players available, yet those selections haven’t happened all the time.

Don’t know whether that’s due to trying to show tactical awareness or what.

I do think his base ideas are sound. Eg we started aggressively vs Watford but the shape was wrong so that dissipated when it became too easy for them to play the ball round the narrow front 3. This was and has been obvious in previous games, so it was a shame that the good underlying idea was squashed by the formation although framework.

If he stays on, I hope that the medium term security allows more confidence to work on a set way of playing with personnel tweaks for each game.

November 22, 2017, 01:03:51 AM
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The point is whatever your possession levels are you need to carry a threat.

Having 30 odd % implies playing on the break etc.

We had the second goal as the only example of a chance from this approach.

You can’t say that was successful vs bottom of the league as had we not got the fortunate penalty, we’d have lost.

November 24, 2017, 04:41:15 AM
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There have been some promising signs but then he’s undermined them with “macho” substations or tweaks.

Then the constant changing of formation, both at the start of matches and then within them isn’t providing any continuity.

We should have been looking to be solid in every game right until the end.

If that meant some boring 0-0s so be it; at least we’d have confidence that we’d sorted the defence.

The naive belief that you can just have more of a go at this level, especially when you’re at rock bottom confidence wise as it is, has stopped us building anything remotely positive.

November 24, 2017, 06:56:25 AM
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But he's trying to win the job as he's going from game to game.

He couldn't afford to be too negative, because it's clear that board didn't fancy him, as they've avoided giving him the job at every opportunity.

Well it would have been more endearing than 1-2; 0-2; 0-3 ;)

It just seems like, it is as feared, that inexperienced mistakes are being highlighted at this level.

Harsh on him yes, but he stated he wanted the job so that’s what it’s like at this level, intense scrutiny all the time.

We must have changed formation 3/4 times in the second half alone tonight, that’s very hard to keep up with even if you’re full of confidence. And we’ve yet to see the best set up / mix of styles in the starting xi (Chelsea away) repeated, which is a bit odd.

And I don’t buy that the players aren’t trying; even tonight we could have equalised, before we collapsed, with Keane’s header but it was the Feeney sub that really let the wheels come off.

Looking at the pictures from training it appears that the players like his sessions but that could simply mean that he’s a coach rather than a manager.

November 27, 2017, 02:29:56 AM
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To be honest he deserves 0 flack at all. Its the boards fault. Fair enough Koeman needed to go. But at the point of sacking him you neeeded a plan to get a replacement in. This really wasn't a sack now think later decision. And thats what we've done

He said he wanted the job though so he was going to be judged on that.

November 27, 2017, 03:51:21 PM
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Kenny regularly drops way behind the rest of the back line. He’s playing wing back there as well.

He’s been decent lately but that’s a massive weakness.

November 28, 2017, 08:11:27 PM
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But he’s tactically inept so why would we want that with the U23’s?

I’d say u23 is more about player development.

If we lose every game but develop two PL ready players every couple of years then we’re better off.

Don’t think he’s completely clueless tactically either - just been very naive.