October 15, 2018, 07:44:24 PM

Poll

Sign his new contract

Yes.
111 (24.1%)
No.
80 (17.4%)
Will wait to see what happens with the new management position.
89 (19.3%)
He's already on his bike and he's off.
181 (39.3%)

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Author Topic: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?  (Read 40554 times)

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November 11, 2017, 07:59:23 PM
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Hope he stays.  An outstanding talent.

That said, I would fully understand his decision to leave.  I think Koeman shat on him, plus I don't buy into all this talk of disloyalty when players move on...it's their job ffs.

Agree with the first line. Koeman has been sacked and is well gone now, so that is no longer a reason, disloyalty probably right, being an Evertonian doesn't mean much to players now, probably the same for most other home grown players as well, well except for the trophy winning teams player's anyway.
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November 11, 2017, 08:16:11 PM
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Sandro is probably being paid more than what Barkley was asking for. Just to highlight the absurdity of Everton Football Club at the minute.

November 12, 2017, 12:54:42 AM
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Sandro is probably being paid more than what Barkley was asking for. Just to highlight the absurdity of Everton Football Club at the minute.

Err No.  Perfectly logical reasons for it but carry on


November 12, 2017, 01:02:22 AM
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Imho if the club thought it was about money ,Ross would've signed by now and they would both be happy ...if it was 'just' about the money .

November 12, 2017, 01:18:46 AM
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Imho if the club thought it was about money ,Ross would've signed by now and they would both be happy ...if it was 'just' about the money .

Don't get that logic? If it was just about Koeman I'd agree, the fact he hasn't signed would suggest there's more to it. Money and a new challenge probably being top of the list.

November 12, 2017, 01:20:18 AM
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Escla

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Sandro is probably being paid more than what Barkley was asking for. Just to highlight the absurdity of Everton Football Club at the minute.

Is your second sentence based on anything other than pure speculation ? Pretty dammning if it is.


November 12, 2017, 01:29:06 AM
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Don't get that logic? If it was just about Koeman I'd agree, the fact he hasn't signed would suggest there's more to it. Money and a new challenge probably being top of the list.

Do mean the fact he hasn't signed ... since Koeman left?

He's probably waiting to make sure we don't appoint Sam fucking Allardyce.

I don't think he'll sign like, he's obviously heading for Spurs.
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November 12, 2017, 01:31:27 AM
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gizzblue


Do mean the fact he hasn't signed ... since Koeman left?

He's probably waiting to make sure we don't appoint Sam fucking Allardyce.

I don't think he'll sign like, he's obviously heading for Spurs.
My thoughts exactly ...nowt to do with Koeman just Ross was/is unhappy .

November 12, 2017, 01:53:01 AM
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Don't get that logic? If it was just about Koeman I'd agree, the fact he hasn't signed would suggest there's more to it. Money and a new challenge probably being top of the list.

Yup. Everything we've read, seen and heard would lead us to this conclusion. A chance to win trophies and make more money at the same Time.

But yet people are still going on about this myth that he hated koeman and vice versa.

November 12, 2017, 02:50:42 AM
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My thoughts exactly ...nowt to do with Koeman just Ross was/is unhappy .
But why was he unhappy?

I get that talks started before Martinez left but in reality the players would have known he was on his way out. With more than 2 years left on a contract no footballer is likely to accept the first offer and the club are not going to be overly desperate to tie him down urgently. 
I have been told that Ross and a couple of players were comparing koeman to nazis. So obviously the relationship was strained and koeman being the man he is probably handled it as badly as Ross.
The other issue was that koeman was happy to take or leave Ross. Hence an offer that was good but not what he wanted. The manager may have been saying all the right things in pressers etc but with a lowball (in Ross eyes) offer he would have known what he was doing. As has been said I think depending on the new boss the clubs position might be revised to something more acceptable to Ross.
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November 12, 2017, 05:49:33 PM
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But why was he unhappy?

I get that talks started before Martinez left but in reality the players would have known he was on his way out. With more than 2 years left on a contract no footballer is likely to accept the first offer and the club are not going to be overly desperate to tie him down urgently. 
I have been told that Ross and a couple of players were comparing koeman to nazis. So obviously the relationship was strained and koeman being the man he is probably handled it as badly as Ross.
The other issue was that koeman was happy to take or leave Ross. Hence an offer that was good but not what he wanted. The manager may have been saying all the right things in pressers etc but with a lowball (in Ross eyes) offer he would have known what he was doing. As has been said I think depending on the new boss the clubs position might be revised to something more acceptable to Ross.
Still think if he was arsed about signing he would've done after Koeman was sacked .
Although I make no bones about not rating him.

November 12, 2017, 08:09:47 PM
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What if he hates the new manager, too?  One would expect him to at least wait for the permanent appointment.
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November 12, 2017, 08:35:20 PM
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What if he hates the new manager, too?  One would expect him to at least wait for the permanent appointment.
Then a splintered arse on the spurs bench awaits 😅

November 12, 2017, 09:33:53 PM
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It is ludicrous to think that Barkley would get in any of the current top 4 or 5 teams, so unless he regards sitting on their bench as career progression it is hard to see what he can gain by leaving, except maybe a signing on fee. He might even be thinking longer term by hoping he could eventually improve to the required level to make their first team and earn medals which he will probably never get at Everton.

November 12, 2017, 09:53:31 PM
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It is ludicrous to think that Barkley would get in any of the current top 4 or 5 teams, so unless he regards sitting on their bench as career progression it is hard to see what he can gain by leaving, except maybe a signing on fee. He might even be thinking longer term by hoping he could eventually improve to the required level to make their first team and earn medals which he will probably never get at Everton.




I think it wouldn't be a bad idea to remember that Ross Barkley has been brought through his last four-five years or so; by two managers who failed dismally. I think Ross Barkley's development under two managers who have failed and both been sacked, could just possibly have a bearing on his development and form. I don't think you can lump Barkley with the complete responsibility of him being unhappy atm with his playing status.


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