November 19, 2018, 09:39:33 AM

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Sign his new contract

Yes.
111 (24.1%)
No.
80 (17.4%)
Will wait to see what happens with the new management position.
89 (19.3%)
He's already on his bike and he's off.
181 (39.3%)

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Author Topic: Ross Barkley. Will he, or won't he?  (Read 42202 times)

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December 04, 2017, 08:01:17 PM
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We're not on a good run now, what has exacerbated it is the collapse in Europe.

We're missing Lukaku undoubtedly but with Rooney playing deeper offering a lot more to our play and hopefully a focal point up top from January there's no reason why offensively we can't improve like last year, especially with Sigurdsson this year and Bolasie to come back.

I just don't think Barkley is as big a miss as some make out.


What I would say is that I think theres been an over egging of what wed have done if hed been available.

Its not as though weve never played badly when hes been in the team and its not as though hes impervious to crises of confidence.

I cant imagine he wouldnt have been equally affected by the negative atmosphere as anyone else.

It would have been better to have him as an option mind; and even better for someone to maybe finally get it all to click.


January 04, 2018, 07:01:08 PM
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Hindsight will show it was a wise move not signing a new contract. Not that him or his agent were that bright to see it at the time but in the end it'll prove a decent bit of business for his career.

He only signed a 4 year deal in 2014 whereas youd normally expect 5.

Reckon his agent was always after this sort of pressure but assumed hed have been sold for 50m 2 years ago.

January 05, 2018, 01:56:59 AM
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He's doing well and it's good to see him take it in his stride
Id be more than happy to see him in around the squad, first team as am sure he is a very good footballer

Id be worried that he has the pace and strength to succeed in the pl at this moment in time tho and we have some very unforgiving fans.... Let's not forget, we had osman and pienaar not so long back and they had plenty of haters

One thing he has over both of them tho is his eye for a goal

Ossie has decent goal return to be fair.

But yeah I think hes going to get a lot of stick for getting brushed off the ball and not flying round in general (Bily).

Needs to develop general dominance of the game (beyond great goals / assists) at that level before getting genuinely excited at prospect of PL level.

Ossie and Pienaar knew how to get around physical disadvantages - Bily didnt.


January 05, 2018, 02:48:10 PM
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10m seems a lot for him.

For all the shit Mirallas gets, we did get a fair bit out of him considering he only cost 6m.

He was a bargain for 2 and 1/2 years (intermittent fitness issues aside).

January 05, 2018, 06:50:46 PM
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15Million will go towards the Tosun deal. Getting a bit frequent now Stones, Lukaku, Barkley all gone inside 18 months.

Such a poor club with no intention of matching players ambitions.

Players would only stay if the team was very good regardless of ambitions.

Even with Spurs, who Im basing that on, Walker has gone, Rose wanted to and well see how they do if they finish outside of top 4.

A club can say it wants to do x, y and z but unless its a current reality top players will leave.


January 05, 2018, 11:08:43 PM
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Done deal, he's gone to Chelsea.

We can certainly sell a player quickly enough when we want to.


Or players going or more eager to sign their new deals ;)


January 05, 2018, 11:19:18 PM
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Tbf they only have fabregas as an attacking CM.

January 05, 2018, 11:23:48 PM
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Biggest issue for him is his drive to really do something in a game.

Noticed he mentioned scoring more goals but if you compare Rooneys runs from deep, where he doesnt look like a 32 yo to Ross not really doing that and its a massive difference.

But the idea that hes miles off them technically/skill etc is wrong.

Such a disappointment.

January 05, 2018, 11:32:13 PM
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