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November 29, 2017, 10:21:34 PM
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Yeah I'm very much in the 'any vaguely competent manager could steer us to mid table without a problem' camp. We don't need to resort to this utter garbage. Desperate. People have been brainwashed and had their expectations lowered so much that they think this desperation is acceptable. It shouldn't be.
I agree, but sad as it sounds they're probably doing the best they can do with the limited knowledge base they have.

Even Fonseca was only in the frame because Moshiri is friendly with Jorge Mendes.
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December 01, 2017, 05:22:27 PM
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Yes Sunderland and Palace.

The only two jobs where he’s actually been brought in to save teams.

Mentioned the other day that he generally bought younger players than you’d have thought.
He was brought in to save Blackburn from Paul Ince too.
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December 01, 2017, 06:09:16 PM
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Blackburn were 19th, 5 points off 17th, and without a win in 11 games when he was appointed.

He might not have been seen as a specialist when they appointed him, but he was certainly brought in to save them.
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December 01, 2017, 06:56:17 PM
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he's managed some proper shite hasn't he

didn't realise it was him who brought Charles N'Zonzi to the Premier League though
Absolutely.

Speaking of Nzonzi, I had a little look through his record with youth players yesterday. It's nowhere near as bad as I thought it was, there aren't really any decent players he completely neglected. Even defensively he was playing players like Joey O'Brien and Phil Jones pretty regularly at a young age.
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December 01, 2017, 08:11:48 PM
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Yes but that’s the same for most managers.

They weren’t looking at him other than he’d done well at a similar club.

But yes, aside from Newcastle (can’t remember where they finished in 2007), he’s started low.
Suspect we're probably at cross purposes a little here. :)

He might rail against being seen as a survival specialist, but if he keeps taking those (no doubt lucrative) jobs then that's what he'll be seen as.

I don't buy into everything he's said, but it's nice to see him talking about European places and cup finals rather than relegation.
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December 01, 2017, 08:47:25 PM
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And so he should be. Let's not praise him for that. We could be nearly top half by 5pm tomorrow, the squads had £220m spent on it in 18 months, with the promise of much more to spend.
Yes. Of course he should be.

He's been attacked by some though - not necessarily on here, mind - because they think he will oversell our struggles in an effort to make himself look bigger.

Here he is, explicitly saying we should be looking to do much more than avoid relegation from the start.
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