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November 29, 2017, 09:52:16 PM
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Definitely a low point for me. We're now viewing ourselves, and will be viewed externally, as a club in a similar mould as Palace, Newcastle or West Ham for hiring this fella. And we deserve to be viewed that way now, sadly. Wretched.
Jeff: That's not the way to win.
Kathie: Is there a way to win?
Jeff: There's a way to lose more slowly.


November 29, 2017, 10:06:44 PM
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It's the demise that hurts - 3 months ago we were hopeful of closing the gap to the Top 4. The way we're playing now, we'd be doing well to stay 4th from bottom. To then be told we're appointing Sammy Lee is a dagger to the heart.

Still, hopefully this is very much a means to an end. I'm cautiously optimistic and think from the (realistic) options available, we've done what I believe we had to. Hopefully he can turn us around, move us up the league and go into retirement knowing that he laid the foundations for our next bright spark 6/12/18 months down the line.

Yeah I'm very much in the 'any vaguely competent manager could steer us to mid table without a problem' camp. We don't need to resort to this utter garbage. Desperate. People have been brainwashed and had their expectations lowered so much that they think this desperation is acceptable. It shouldn't be.
Jeff: That's not the way to win.
Kathie: Is there a way to win?
Jeff: There's a way to lose more slowly.

November 30, 2017, 01:51:16 AM
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I'll never get behind this shit. Good luck to the people trying (and struggling) desperately to justify it to themselves.
Jeff: That's not the way to win.
Kathie: Is there a way to win?
Jeff: There's a way to lose more slowly.


November 30, 2017, 02:00:31 AM
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Jeff: That's not the way to win.
Kathie: Is there a way to win?
Jeff: There's a way to lose more slowly.

November 30, 2017, 03:00:09 AM
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Jeff: That's not the way to win.
Kathie: Is there a way to win?
Jeff: There's a way to lose more slowly.

November 30, 2017, 09:40:05 PM
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I would love it if we were so shambolic that we have the guy sat next to the majority shareholder and still fuck up the agreement. Fingers crossed.
Jeff: That's not the way to win.
Kathie: Is there a way to win?
Jeff: There's a way to lose more slowly.


November 30, 2017, 09:43:16 PM
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Jeff: That's not the way to win.
Kathie: Is there a way to win?
Jeff: There's a way to lose more slowly.

December 01, 2017, 08:22:32 PM
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Suspect we're probably at cross purposes a little here. :)

He might rail against being seen as a survival specialist, but if he keeps taking those (no doubt lucrative) jobs then that's what he'll be seen as.

I don't buy into everything he's said, but it's nice to see him talking about European places and cup finals rather than relegation.

And so he should be. Let's not praise him for that. We could be nearly top half by 5pm tomorrow, the squads had £220m spent on it in 18 months, with the promise of much more to spend.

Bet he can't believe his luck that an institution as great as Everton has come begging cap in hand, with massive money for him and his mates, to do a job that pretty much any competent manager could do in his sleep.
Jeff: That's not the way to win.
Kathie: Is there a way to win?
Jeff: There's a way to lose more slowly.

December 01, 2017, 08:29:41 PM
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Playing devilís advocate somewhat; what is this obsession with playing beautiful football? How many teams in the premier league are silky ball playing teams?

The School of Science is a thing most of donít even remember. Martinez revived it for a season but thatís about it. Even Kendallís teams were all about lumping it up to the big man and having quality players make something happen in the final third.

Nothing gets Goodison bouncing like us kicking the shit out of the opposition, winning the physical battles. Weíre a working class club and we demand our players graft and show passion. Allerdyceís will give us that. And getting the ball forward early and turning the opposition round could well be a welcome antidote to the horrible, boring as fuck possession football weíve had to endure for the last few seasons.

This is not someone playing devil's advocate. This is your actual opinion. Don't be disingenuous, have the courage of your convictions and get behind your opinion. It's certainly not mine, as you probably know, but if you're going to argue a case, at least stand firmly behind what you've said.
Jeff: That's not the way to win.
Kathie: Is there a way to win?
Jeff: There's a way to lose more slowly.

December 02, 2017, 02:24:34 AM
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Iíve never once stated I wanted Allerdyce or that I advocate shite football. I wanted Martinez and Koeman and championed their philosophies...and they both turned out to be shit and ineffective. Iím open to something different, especially with this limited, unbalanced and somewhat disinterested squad.

Stop being a crybaby millennial having a tantrum because his team wonít be playing like Man City. Get over yourself you ĎFIFAí generation bellend.

Wish I was a millennial and never owned FIFA. Other than that, a decent, fiesty comeback. You're clearly not hugely bright or perceptive, because you've misread me completely like, but that's no surprise. Like I said, don't be scared to get behind your own opinion. It comes across as weak and disingenuous when you pretend you're 'playing devil's advocate'.
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Jeff: That's not the way to win.
Kathie: Is there a way to win?
Jeff: There's a way to lose more slowly.