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November 30, 2017, 04:28:40 PM
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Not that I am any great fan of Elstone and Kenwright but since this 'power shift' we've had four managers in 18 months, wasted £150m, been on the fringes of the bottom three, assembled the most disjointed squad for years and just appointed the most underwhelming manager in living memory.


Power shift is now isn’t it?

Anyway, the underlying point needs to be that there is unity of thought / purpose.

Think the Sigurdsson episode (and Schneiderlin before that) was down to old ways of working where every pound really mattered.

Paying an extra couple of £m for Sigurdsson at the start of the saga would have left weeks to sort everything else out etc; and that’s just one minor thing.

You can’t have confusion at the top.


November 30, 2017, 04:57:08 PM
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I think the power shift started the day Moshiri acquired his share of the club, it's an ongoing process while the old guard still remain in key positions.

At some point though there has to be a clear statement of intent, a clearly definable strategy put in place moving forwards. If, as expected (and demanded by many) we get a 5th manager in about two years in the summer there needs to be some kind of plan for it. Are we going to go down the route of continuous change or do we try to develop like Sevilla or Atletico for example, whereby it doesn't matter if the manager/head coach/star player leaves as the club still works and plans around an ethos and a model which means personnel change doesn't affect the direction the club heads in.

Yes.

I think Joyce is implying that BK / Elstone are now out of the picture whereas up to now they’ve been (heavily?) involved.

November 30, 2017, 10:23:35 PM
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I’d say at best we’ll get 55 points (1.6 pg from here on in).

Burnley on 27 but could see them going at 1 pg when their confidence drops / injuries etc.

Think being conservative 8th is best we can hope for plus not going out to someone we shouldn’t in the cup.


December 01, 2017, 03:53:08 PM
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If the motto meant anything would we really have employed;
Koeman. No
Martinez. No
Moyes.   No
Walker.  No
Lee .  No

None of these appointments had the Everton ethos, though Moyes did try to get it.
Big Sam is the latest in a long long line of appointments that show the lack of ambition the board have. Fucking amateur .

To be fair if Kendall hadn’t played for us, he wouldn’t have fit the motto based on his managerial career to date.

December 01, 2017, 05:17:23 PM
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You know what, Everton that. It really wouldnt surprise me. Has Allardyce been appointed into struggling team before the Jan window? I’d be interested to see, with the clout we’ve got to see who he’d go for.

Yes Sunderland and Palace.

The only two jobs where he’s actually been brought in to save teams.

Mentioned the other day that he generally bought younger players than you’d have thought.

December 01, 2017, 05:47:58 PM
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He was brought in to save Blackburn from Paul Ince too.

Wasn’t as a specialist though?

That’s why he bristles against the description.


December 01, 2017, 07:52:00 PM
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Blackburn were 19th, 5 points off 17th, and without a win in 11 games when he was appointed.

He might not have been seen as a specialist when they appointed him, but he was certainly brought in to save them.

Yes but that’s the same for most managers.

They weren’t looking at him other than he’d done well at a similar club.

But yes, aside from Newcastle (can’t remember where they finished in 2007), he’s started low.

December 02, 2017, 12:08:31 PM
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He's just standing up for himself. It's a bit embarrassing because he knows we were after Silva. But then it's a bit embarrassing for us too. He doesn't need took make the comparisons though. Everyone else can do that, if they're that bored. Sounds more like a shit journalist was trying to get a rise out of him.

He’ll hve been asked directly about us approaching Silva first.

It’s all part of his feeling that he’s not been given an appropriate chance somewhere etc.

Got his chance to prove it now.

December 02, 2017, 01:40:07 PM
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A bit too candid and honest for his own good - could’ve just said ‘doesn’t matter, I got the job’.

Mourinho levels of media manipulation? Everyone talks about the manager’s controversial comments and deflects pressure away from the players?

Just think he’s got a long held grievance that he’s under appreciated as a coach (hoof ball as opposed to data driven / survival merchant as opposed to good manager).