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March 05, 2018, 08:35:05 PM
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Macca77


What are the timescales with this? I'll stick on 100 now as it'll happen by June surely....

Wouldnt bother, it was the next manager sacked market, Pardew odds on, then Wenger and Pellegrino before Allardyce


March 05, 2018, 08:58:04 PM
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I want FIVE managers this season.  Let's have Shakespeare in, then somebody knife him before the season's out and a player manager for the last 2 or 3 matches.  This should be the prophecy now, just give us some good old-fashioned entropy!
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March 05, 2018, 09:53:38 PM
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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/big-sam-and-the-problem-of-being-universally-disliked/ar-BBJSMfc?li=AA9SkIr&ocid=spartanntp

good read this.....

absolutely true, too.  It's not only for the fans benefit, it instills belief in the players. The modern footballer has choices, and doesn't want to play for a cunt or a bridge troll.
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March 05, 2018, 10:07:49 PM
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Craig Shakespeare ousting Allardyce and taking charge would tie up the season nicely.

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March 05, 2018, 11:33:08 PM
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Looks like we're getting the MNF treatment from Carragher tonight

I'll be missing it as I'll be having my pre footy nap so if anyone could post it I would be very grateful.

Not going to be pretty, but fuck it - will put the spotlight on the club and crank up the pressure valve on all concerned.

I regularly think about what @si said about the club being totally unaware about the supporter’s feelings until too late in the past - there simply cannot be that same misunderstanding come this summer.

Personally think win lose or draw Saturday - wouldn’t be surprised to see him axed.
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March 05, 2018, 11:38:53 PM
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March 06, 2018, 12:08:06 AM
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Lxxx


Oh ! Now that you say it !

Well we're paying him for something so may as well let him earn it.

Going back to Allardyce, to wait until we're mathematically safe before binning him would probably trigger him receiving a survival bonus he doesn't deserve, so I'd bin him within the next 5 minutes, just get rid. We're not going down, Allardyce or no Allardyce.

March 06, 2018, 12:45:02 AM
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Just been sent this

March 06, 2018, 01:50:54 AM
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I think the dislike of Allardyce and the total focus on finding anything and everything to use against him masks a much more serious issue - there were and still are major issues within the club. More specifically there have been issues within the squad going back quite a time. When Sam goes what a task facing the next manager! How long does a new man need to put his stamp on a team and start to see positive results from his efforts? Some of those issues are sheer bad luck like the injuries or loss of form. Some new signings will work straight away (usually those with recent PL experience) some take ages to bed in. A very few turn out to be just not good enough. Players age, some slowly some quickly, young players develop at a different pace from each other. And some managers just get it wrong and some get it right.
Have we really got the patience to wait for someone else to come in and start at square one again with the months possibly seasons, it will take?
Whilst Sam is here we need to use his experience to move us as far forward as he can take us. I still believe one thing (perhaps the only thing?) he will bring is that by the end of the season he will have a squad who genuinely play for him as a team. That is what he has consistently achieved in the past. I don't particularly care whether it's attractive or nor in the short term as the longer term is more important.  Once that group of players is identified and playing as a team then the next manager has a clear starting position to move from. Without that starting position we can add yet another season on to the time it will take whilst he first of all sorts that chaos.
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March 06, 2018, 02:02:00 AM
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Showed a clip on MNF of Gana running 30 yards to have a go at Pickford after conceding the first, Carra saying he would have choked anyone who done that to him 😂

Said Williams legs are gone and the team lacks leaders especially with the older players

Also said Evertonians are not having Sam saying we are like Newcastle

Fucking handy work this punditry business like

March 06, 2018, 02:05:47 AM
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Juanito


I think the dislike of Allardyce and the total focus on finding anything and everything to use against him masks a much more serious issue - there were and still are major issues within the club. More specifically there have been issues within the squad going back quite a time. When Sam goes what a task facing the next manager! How long does a new man need to put his stamp on a team and start to see positive results from his efforts? Some of those issues are sheer bad luck like the injuries or loss of form. Some new signings will work straight away (usually those with recent PL experience) some take ages to bed in. A very few turn out to be just not good enough. Players age, some slowly some quickly, young players develop at a different pace from each other. And some managers just get it wrong and some get it right.
Have we really got the patience to wait for someone else to come in and start at square one again with the months possibly seasons, it will take?
Whilst Sam is here we need to use his experience to move us as far forward as he can take us. I still believe one thing (perhaps the only thing?) he will bring is that by the end of the season he will have a squad who genuinely play for him as a team. That is what he has consistently achieved in the past. I don't particularly care whether it's attractive or nor in the short term as the longer term is more important.  Once that group of players is identified and playing as a team then the next manager has a clear starting position to move from. Without that starting position we can add yet another season on to the time it will take whilst he first of all sorts that chaos.


So you think a manager who has awful tactics, statiscally the worst in the league, who then blames the players when it goes wrong and tells everyone it’s all him when we win against garbage like Huddlesfield, will “genuinely play for him as a squad” ?

Stay off the drugs.

March 06, 2018, 02:59:07 AM
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Showed a clip on MNF of Gana running 30 yards to have a go at Pickford after conceding the first, Carra saying he would have choked anyone who done that to him 😂

Said Williams legs are gone and the team lacks leaders especially with the older players

Also said Evertonians are not having Sam saying we are like Newcastle

Fucking handy work this punditry business like

He's not wrong about Williams. He is a liability, whenever we need good leadership from him, he just goes for punching someone, getting red carded or giving away a penalty. I've had enough of him. Better give the young lads a go instead.

March 06, 2018, 03:37:55 AM
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I think the dislike of Allardyce and the total focus on finding anything and everything to use against him masks a much more serious issue - there were and still are major issues within the club. More specifically there have been issues within the squad going back quite a time. When Sam goes what a task facing the next manager! How long does a new man need to put his stamp on a team and start to see positive results from his efforts? Some of those issues are sheer bad luck like the injuries or loss of form. Some new signings will work straight away (usually those with recent PL experience) some take ages to bed in. A very few turn out to be just not good enough. Players age, some slowly some quickly, young players develop at a different pace from each other. And some managers just get it wrong and some get it right.
Have we really got the patience to wait for someone else to come in and start at square one again with the months possibly seasons, it will take?
Whilst Sam is here we need to use his experience to move us as far forward as he can take us. I still believe one thing (perhaps the only thing?) he will bring is that by the end of the season he will have a squad who genuinely play for him as a team. That is what he has consistently achieved in the past. I don't particularly care whether it's attractive or nor in the short term as the longer term is more important.  Once that group of players is identified and playing as a team then the next manager has a clear starting position to move from. Without that starting position we can add yet another season on to the time it will take whilst he first of all sorts that chaos.


I’m sorry, but I’m not having this at all.

What have you see so far to make you think he is capable of moving a club forward?

He was hired as a firefighter, make absolutely no bones about it, do not be under any misconception at all he was hired to make sure we did not go down.

He’s barely managing that at the moment, but in doing so is serving up some absolutely brutally shite togger; conceding loads of shots and creating little, isolating players, talking wham in the media and showing no signs whatsoever solving any of the problems we have been facing all year.

In my opinion we could have kept koeman on and we’d be in the same scenario, with less disruption.

And of course, saved ourselves the embarrassment of hiring the countries foremost proponent in long ball meat and potatoes percentage only try to win at home lose away draw occasionally bare minimum shit ball.
I knew that someday I was going to die, and I knew that before I died, two things would happen to me. That number one; I would regret my entire life, and number two; that I would want to live my life over again.

March 06, 2018, 03:41:33 AM
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I think the dislike of Allardyce and the total focus on finding anything and everything to use against him masks a much more serious issue - there were and still are major issues within the club. More specifically there have been issues within the squad going back quite a time. When Sam goes what a task facing the next manager! How long does a new man need to put his stamp on a team and start to see positive results from his efforts? Some of those issues are sheer bad luck like the injuries or loss of form. Some new signings will work straight away (usually those with recent PL experience) some take ages to bed in. A very few turn out to be just not good enough. Players age, some slowly some quickly, young players develop at a different pace from each other. And some managers just get it wrong and some get it right.
Have we really got the patience to wait for someone else to come in and start at square one again with the months possibly seasons, it will take?
Whilst Sam is here we need to use his experience to move us as far forward as he can take us. I still believe one thing (perhaps the only thing?) he will bring is that by the end of the season he will have a squad who genuinely play for him as a team. That is what he has consistently achieved in the past. I don't particularly care whether it's attractive or nor in the short term as the longer term is more important.  Once that group of players is identified and playing as a team then the next manager has a clear starting position to move from. Without that starting position we can add yet another season on to the time it will take whilst he first of all sorts that chaos.


Players have already decided he's toast pal. Not sure what you're seeing.